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The 404 - 1,581: Wolf Man, bad passwords, how online stores change prices on you (podcast)

2014-11-13
what's going on everyone it's Thursday November 13 2014 welcome to the 404 show my name is jeff bakalar i'm joined by iyaz Akhtar Esquire and then our own Nunez as I area over there on the board audi looking stylish why they get your eyes fixed um I'm getting new contact lenses soon you change your pert your prescription no it's the same but it was you know every year you gotta get a new one I hate it yeah I wish they could just give me new contacts but what about why don't you use the permanent ones um I get really lazy with like taking them off and I end up sleeping with them and since I only have one I that's like really bad right some just like give me the disposal once I could just toss them out exactly you gotta hold on to that good I exactly he needs innocent laser to the other one just to get it done she doesn't bother with this nonsense what laser the good one of the bad one good wishes will make don't think you lazy the bad one yeah just like it won't work though I'm playing with house money yeah it's uncorrectable I'm impossible to fix what in this day and age even leaving what Lacey really yes with modern Bionic technology up well thanks a lot captain depressing nothing could be done for you they said only if someone donates an eye so if you guys want to volunteer oh there you go that's that changes everything mean impossible that's the only possible unlikely but very possible that why i don't think i want someone else's eye though what see ya yeah I'm with you man yeah I would think if I have like someone else's liver mm-hmm I would somehow consume a piece of their soul yeah and then be possessed by them yeah but the rest of my days you think it'd be like a total possession you think it'd be like a partial possession everything to be sick of partial I think lately mostly involuntary movements you know things that'd be fine that's what I worry about that's like the real things I worry and what I mean that seems like a completely fun part of the day like why'd you do that oh it's my liver yeah I knew I know you can just blame everything you do on that too like oh that's my demon liver my bed every night of its own uh yeah I it's amazing like I stuff is amazing I I have a stigmatism I don't know if you can correct that with laser can you I don't know either to my left eye sucks arm but it's not the worst thing I got glasses and whatnot but I'm always I always wonder like what must have happened before eyeglasses like imagine 300 year when were eyeglasses invented I don't know I don't know friggin okay five all the things i know i'm wearing them i didn't research I also don't know what belts were invented I'm wearing a belt no oh my god people's pants falling down is nowhere near as important as seeing clearly ok ok so imagine you're like a caveman or something right done you're done there's you you have no chance whatsoever like think about the blindness person you know i got like Steve Guttenberg right he says it really thick glasses right how screwed yeah what needs right like you got you you're just like doing that Frankenstein Ian sort of like feely touchy thing to see where you're at i just say be hyper jumpy man just do that like a tiger space and you're done I just think if we saw any blob whatever it may be if it's movie he's just jumpy and it's not until the other caveman's like Steve it's me Steve it's me and then he's okay right that's how was the blind would survive on earth or sky you try the tiger petting probably was guilt it's amazing to me that like shitty vision hasn't evolved out of us because it's not our I guess is not a hereditary thing it's not passed down through DNA I guess it is well then what the hell well that means people survived oh which is we gotta stop yes I'm killing off exactly people who have problem with their eyes should not have children it's creatures I mean it's super fixable so in the modern age is not a problem but think about it man you had if you made it to 12 you were defying the odds well yeah those that that too or you just accepted the world you're like I guess the world blurry here you go eyeglasses were invented between 1268 and 1289 in Italy okay so we're talking like a hundred years it's a long freakin time that's a long time man all right interesting a little fun fact little TI l today got some tributed a um this is funny story from ARS technica one of the FBI's most wanted cyber criminal is a bad dude okay super bad guy turns out uh one of the passwords that this that this criminal cyber mastermind was using was the name of his cat was his cat-like name like something with awesome characters 28k is like mr. Mixel put sick note with like asterisks in like parentheses nope it was chewy chewy 123 reminds me of that scene in Spaceballs one two three four five really sounds like you the most sought-after cyber criminal your password is chewy one two three yeah that's no example to set for the other cyber criminals of the world is this guy's super confident you think he was like nobody will ever catch me so doesn't matter what my password is or is this this guy's an idiot of a different kind of style I don't know man it's I think it's like the Super Man Thing were like that dude like like uh Alan Cummings character in Goldeneye I'm invincible like you just have this complete misconception well let the Riddler like you'll never figure this out Batman Batman always figures you out many ways every freakin time you have yet to be successful and you still try this yeah a chewy 123 never been a riddle where he's like still noodling it he's like Batman's been busy for three weeks what you been doing oh the Riddler actually got him this time he just thought it was just couldn't quite distinct white rappers rap his bat wings around instead of like trying to you know seek the Riddler down you just SAT and thought about it yeah in that like atlas pose right or so yeah thinking thinking about all right yeah thinking man that was the glue the balance that she's holding the riddles like this is like all the riddles heavy its way it's me ok that was pond tacular so yeah cybercriminals I mean come on have the decency to change your password to something alphanumeric that's like not a word not your cat not your direct of course it's his cat scanning have a dog cat a cat you think that kappa believe i don't think there's one hacker that's got a dog they're busy there too but probably what it is if you're worrying a backing it always be suspicious of cat owners cuz they have a cat because cats are low-maintenance they're up to something else this is yours a few of goldfish just like look the hell out yeah yeah you know they're super low-maintenance pets those people are selfish get to know so people have horses trustworthy oh my god they have to be kidding got allows of dollars baloney absolutely I know I'm right we proved it I think I think yeah this is this is this is now true forever this must be done and if you have a horse trustworthy if you have a cat you're up to something suspicious as hell we've got a calico um all right what's next my computer froze uh we got your online stores are changing pricing depending on how you shop all right thing about this what's going yeah so this was a story that uh kind of came out a while ago remember when um there was there was a little bit of evidence that i think it was orbits or one of those travel sites was changing the price of a flight uh by sniffing out what you were using to browse the site so if you had a Mac odds are you might be a little more well off so they would bump up the price a little bit for you because you were browsing on a Mac but for the guy with the pc oh he's the common man he's a groundling let's let's make it more affordable for this guy and uh this story here in Wired that came out this morning is all about online stores changing their prices depending on how you shop not necessarily how you how you appear like what your identity looks like to the website but more so um your habits and a lot of it is using cookies and demographics like your zip code and stuff like that all sort of playing along into this confusing Al Gore them of price fluctuation where these prices are personalized to a particular shopper and the article goes into all the research that's been done and uh people who tend to to uh view stores through a mobile device have this have a different experience someone who's on a desktop device they're bringing in the psychology of it all and having that uh impact the final price is your offered this is really depressing and irritated it's the way it is man well it's a brave new world out there if it clearly is an evolution of of online shopping I mean you can't get mad at it because it must work oh no I think you've made man i'm gonna give engines i cannot stand booking flights i can't stand in hotels because the search you run like on you know monday eight it's not the same at monday at ten so everything shift is the same same freaking search terms everything changes prices go through the roof and then there was i was looking at at the article though says there's no one-size-fits-all solution so you're basically screwed no matter what you do because all the services are different yeah so what this is is some fun doom and gloom but thursday it's i mean there's no other way to spin it brother this is how it is so basically buy some cheap stuff I mean look again never add something to your amazon cart and then you go back a day later and it's like this is decreased in price by a dollar so at least they tell you that right it's strange you don't know what forces are at work that changed it it just happened or maybe it's like this free marketing we're like the price it like a stock market where like the prices fluctuating you're like oh well milkha seven cents cheaper than it was yesterday do you want it like an explanation on it amazon like do you want to know what i would like some backstory that be interesting i'd like that little leg that says okay the reason why we had a good on down yet passing the savings along to the consumer like Bessie had a good quarter the guys who did all this research go into more detail here's someone that kind of stood out to me is like more you know mystery sort of strange things happening so there are times when the people doing this were able to see other forms of price discrimination on some websites but were unable to get the to the root cause of that price variation okay so like for example on sears when they would do like rental car websites they would try out different browsers and different platforms it would log in log out they couldn't tell why the price was changing it just was they couldn't discern a pattern which is weird that there's at Leeds any educated person to guess well maybe they're just like randomly spitting out prices those like that PT game like that if ya I figure we figured out how this works like ad there's no nothing special screw you either way they speculate a little bit but I think some of it too is like hey you know and they go into it uh with the talk of cookies they say the cookies aren't necessarily a bad thing because if you arm you know if you go to a site like cheap tickets or orbitz users who are logged in will Awful's often see a members-only price that would on average saving around twelve dollars on something like a hotel but if you clear your cookies and then you search you wouldn't be logged in necessarily and you would miss out on that discount there's other things too like cookies can kind of tell you like this guy's on Twitter all the time or this guy's whatever and that might be a deciding factor as to how the algorithm treats your IP and says all right well I as won't shut up on Google+ about his deals that he gets yeah by me let's save them a couple bucks and maybe hill hill hill you know shout us out that'll definitely have a Google+ my google plus guns yeah because that's where all the social kids are right now everyone's rockins google plus RL do you feel screwed by this yes it's just not depressing animated nothing we could do about it other than like buy some chief computers and and really crappy phones to book our stuff on and hope that they'll take pity on us you're gonna like fake poor it you're gonna be like go get like a LG something or other not a g3 but like you know like an old G to know G if you're an old G you're gonna get the good prices obviously yeah that's the way I'm gonna make sure that I'm gonna miss set my browser using a user agent spoofer be like okay that's ie5 I'm obviously clueless I'm running IE five so either than you think they're gonna charge me more or less no more because you're so close that you wouldn't know if you're getting got me my pcs really old my p might be old enough I've saved money I guess now cuz then I if I see that I'm like this guy I could do anything that's rich in it like I'm with him make sure that i infect your computer um our bodies a geek calm put up a story about a ridiculous PlayStation TV peripheral what the hell is this thing all right so from the picture you can see that it looks like a playstation portable as a big screen looks like a Vita is what it looks well there's actually a PlayStation TV locked in the back so it makes the PSP so the PS TV that's regional TV it makes the TV portable into basically a giant version of the Vita bright because the TV version is the home version of the portable it's like reverse engineering yeah what essentially the PlayStation TV was meant for this little box it's like a roku plugs into your TV and it acts like it's a vida so you can do Vita stuff on your big screen TV at home but what this does is take that thing and turns it right back into a vida which is clearly the dumbest thing you could possibly do cept what's a larger screen in the Vita right this is a 1024 x 600 so don't care you get seven inches of screen great you get five inches on the Vita itself now you get to get to the price its 22 bucks it's 200 without the PlayStation TV so it costs the same as the Vita off the bat in a slightly cheaper than that dude is it yeah feat is probably like 150 now what was that she that it is really makes no sense it's just it's turning a non-portable system into a portable system where does this come I kind of like this no this is so stupid i like it it's but i mean the thing is i think i like the idea of a console becoming portable but this is a portable that became a console that became portable that's the way it gets stupid i have a weird sort of fascination when they do when they turn like a ps4 into a laptop like you've seen or the xbox one but this is this is just like I it doesn't make sense why it would happen like this I was wrong about the price of the Vita though man on Amazon it looks like it's still 250 if it is eating 250 still well maybe that's a special kind of Vita I don't know me or they just they just know you're into games so that hey moose up the price if I search it'll be like 50 bucks so we create your voice an add-on item for you this is really terrifying yeah I don't get it but um it's a thing called eka vita 7 by the way if you want to buy one of these is called deck evita seven cool you can get yourself a portable version of a non-portable thing all right way no I found a different one oh I'm sorry so you can get a refurbished betta for 170 that's not great or you get the limited edition Borderlands 2 version 4 200 that's that's yeah there you go it's cheaper alright finally would we got wolf man wolf man we got wolf man coming apparently according to I think was deadline Digital Trends has a report about this Universal Studios plotting their next move universities has a lot of monsters Frankenstein they got Dracula and wolfman looks like 2017 this is the time we're gonna get a new wolfman movie so ok I never saw no I'm not familiar with Wolfman it's like an old-school horror classic right you've never seen wolfman or like any of like the belly is like Nosferatu that's like a bat vampires bat vampire guy that's in the same vein as like the campy yeah black and white how do you like stop in the water cuz you're so much more on cultured than I am I understand that the like as long as we got that everything is like that the holes you have in your head when I do certain things are just so gaping know how do you not know the universal monsters i do i know them well Dracula's not Nosferatu first of all you know the same sort of thing it's not the same thing so you got wolf man who's never had a cool movie well that's the thing so you don't even know that Wolfman hasn't had a cool movie they try to reboot it with life is this guy there's nothing cool about him he looks like he looks like will ferrell okay so that being said obviously it looks like a startled will ferrell this is probably not the look you're gonna see they rebooted this in 2010 with benicio del toro it totally take a real i kid you not man they actually bother to try this Universal every couple years tries these are not good brands Dracula Dracula fine it's like a timeless sort of thing breaking someone yeah that you think will send all of a sudden gonna have a new one that's like amazing and alas no a lot to the theist in Nero's version right the Mary Shelley's Frankenstein so that they keep trying over and over okay it's not working well no a 13 year old doesn't give a about Wolfman I asked a 13 year old will he'll tell me to go F myself Wolfman really i'm seeing avengers ever ever these up thor and all that it is it just it's just the look of the wolf minutes driving you nuts no I've actually think there's something charming about this guy it wasn't being with well right he seems like a nice and he's just like Oh what I didn't know you were here is what i buy him a drink yes I getting out with Wolfman San up Wolfman I have a friend whose last name is wolf I just call him Wolfman but it has nothing to do is he deserve a movie that's my question 2017 a guy did the Wolfman okay it's the basic monster movie guy turns into a werewolf with this moon we're beyond basic like look man I'm not even i'm not even i'm not even picking sides you know we had godzilla just happened like this year right okay like godzilla brand is so much more relevant how was it how was a giant freaking monster relevant compared to a wolf I need you to notice everyone listening to this right now foot must agree with me there's no way if you were likewise has a point wolf made up don't know a handful then I never said Wolfman is any good I tried to get the Wolfman but guy who is this thing that never went away it always was relevant you can't just resurrect Wolfman and be like I might work again it didn't four years ago and God said most people didn't really like this Godzilla if he wasn't in it Roderick one that one was hilarious one people are kinda on the fence about it people but they'll be another one in 2020 did not have a violent reaction to it this is just like ripping branding hoping it works but what man is my pride man i have tried to watch wolfman they're better all their open making like a Betty Boop movie which they are doing that Universal vision is better if they're better off doing it you think will do better than a Wolfman I will bet you real American money one dollar America no we're not doing we're doing like a hundred dollar no I don't think so come on lawyer lawyer up well then I wouldn't do anything good i should when they shut up in with your look at a lawyer up i'm gonna shut up it doesn't matter what right be quiet all i'm saying is let's sign the contract write it up hundred-dollar i don't know if that's legal in this state pal don't matter that's what I care but can't have a contract that's only legal subjects you know that right that's like saying hey can you kill this guy you like yeah let's sign a deal for this and then you don't do it do you think I can sue you Aria you know what he's doing right now is acting like a lawyer now and you're and you're getting you're just you're trying to distract I'm take us away from the point at hand that Wolfman will do better than Betty boob now it will it's gonna happen this is assuming this even happened to you I bet you asked a hundred people outside which have you heard of Wolfman or betty boop betty boop will slaughter Wolfman okay i'm gonna get so many confused people cuz they're gonna be like a good number of people have no idea what I'm talking about with either one right put moat but the people that do know they will know Betty Boop more often than they know then the Wolfman yeah the wolfman the wolf like I barely know what that is now how is that possibly know what it is cuz you see like archive footage what about teen wolfy ever watch teen wolf to you but that's not Wolfman it's a Wolfman version right that is that that's not in the cannibal course not of course yeah we know wolf teen wolf that's okay with you Michael J Fox so is that what all it takes with us to be okay your Teen Wolf Man we're cool boy a teen wolf is fine a wolf man is dumb so as long as this person's is adolescence you're happy wait what was it was american werewolf in paris is that fall into this i don't think it does i think we're just talking about Wolfman yes Bryant I mean he's a werewolf ray is a world I feel like werewolves had their little run all right well that'll different cuz then that's like you know why right exactly why light and stuff is just called The Wolfman so like it's easy werewolf this is throwing you i think i think you're trying to change think you're trying to change the rules of our little we don't even an arrangement yes we do arielle as my witness as Arielle in the recording in the wav files will show you everyone listen to the shows like they're doing their own bet based on our bed that's right we're gonna hagas has some action on I can't wait to the Vegas odds of Wolfman first getting a movie Greenland don't forget now so I it's already definitive this is it could be right because universe has got a movie coming and it's probably the Wolfman I think we were talking with the the brainstorming sessions for eaten alive yesterday I think it's the same kind of stupidity when it comes to making a Wolfman movie like yeah that's a good idea to do that again sure okay so we're on the same page then oh no I really think it's gonna not do we're very well but Betty Boop i think is gonna be worse i think baby who's gonna do okay depends on who they get to play her right if it's like ska Joe it's over open okay true it's all about the casting yeah over that's true I thought that Benecia del Toro could have worked with the wolf man is didn't work yeah i'm not i'm not going out on a limb here I'm I think I'm being pretty conservative I'm pretty sure Betty Boop's can be like a CG character nomadic ish as long as skotos coming out of her mouth like that voice it's gonna be fine okay so slow Joe's like the wolf woman Bennett's got a deal okay there we go that is it that's all it took is as long as it's scarlett johansson playing the wolf man or wolf person yeah that would probably save the damn franchise i think i think we would resurrect there you go now you got an answer we don't want a teen what we teen wolf is fine wolf man is bad right wolf woman would be different yeah cuz we don't have a lot of those you are correct there we go I bet you like Twilight don't you I've never seen what about an altered beast the movie arise from your way yeah they need to put me on the marketing so when they turned him into a wolf think this is a part of the movie where you're tuned out we turned back into a dragon i guess i'm paying attention again third beast you son of a gun dropping that on look at that I know he's like I know what I'm doing alright movie myself i would say that before I Ellison stop-motion vine movie some scenes will be on show some will be on the Instagram someone by he got that is social that's a good way together gonna follow uslike part 2 is connected on vine yeah except our genius we got a genius on our head no one else deal that idea yeah oh man all right um we got to finish things up if you got an email I think you know the deal i think we heard back from everyone right about what about the back to the future oh that was the winners were picked they don't know that no they oh yeah the winners were picked and i believe we did hear back from all four of them i think so also congrats to those four fine people thanks so much for being a part of that like I said we'll get going with call of duty next week and yeah it's been a pleasure doing all these contests thanks so much for participating um and I think that's how we're going to end it today on a positive note a positive note of winning appointing yes they all you guys are all winners before are you particular are really winners fan on literally a 6640 foreseen it give us a call shoot us an email the 44 at cnet com I believe will be back here tomorrow so that's very nice follow us on Facebook Instagram reddit Twitter and all that junk until tomorrow we'll finish up the week i'm jeff beck Amaya's actor I marioni yet this has been the 404 high-tech lowbrow see you guys tomorrow you you
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