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The 404 - 1,591: Sony keeps getting hacked, Black Mirror, will VR ever work?

2014-12-08
so it's Friday night I'm having dinner and I just get you know whenever I get to worsen I get up and I wash my hands before I start eating all the bread this is what I do so I get up I'm not a real good Brent like a good local side pretzel bread forget it oh we have like a bunch of that in our freezer it's amazing so yeah it's very fancy steak house on that I get up I walked to the bathroom and the gentleman sitting right before the hallway entrance to the bathroom I catch a glimpse at him for a second and I continue on my way and as I enter the hallway to the bathroom like that was Michael J Fox and I like froze in the hallway cuz I was like oh my god that's Michael J Fox right there just right outside the bathroom right outside the bathroom just having dinner with his lovely wife and another couple look what weird was this i don't know if i should like say the rest is a little I don't want to be that guy to like but in your neighborhood it was in midtown Manhattan I'm antenna yeah that's safe I just was curious if this is like far away or close by right no it's definitely close by I walked over there for dinner and this funny cuz Stacy had gone to the bathroom before me so I go in and I beat her outside and i'm waiting there because i want to tell her so I'm like camped out the late outside the ladies room she comes out and I'm like shh and she's like what what's going on I'm like when we walk outside you have to look and I literally like drew a map on my palm of palm of my hand to like show her where he's sitting and not to look that obvious when she goes out and just sort of glances at him so so this works yes health plan were totally worked and I learn so I you serve like turning and making it okay to give a map you're holding in your basically so I'm like I'm like I'm like just just act normal I'm gonna act calm and when you go outside he's facing our table and this he's sitting in the adjacent booth like he's right next to us okay crazy so like I go go I'll let you go like 30 seconds before just look casually he's right he's right here I had a whisper cuz I was scared he might even hear me yeah so she goes head jets yeah she goes and I wait 30 seconds I sit down and like see here at the booth and she's just like a smile ear to ear Lee I don't know I've gotten to meet a lot of celebrities in my time I've never and I didn't meet him I just saw him I've never been so starstruck like that's Marty McFly man that's pretty cool I've never met him before I've never seen him I didn't know what it's like and then so we said and we're at a party of six so we're sitting down in a booth and there's these two booths that are adjacent to each other they're both facing out towards the street and I'm like I basically like duck down in the booth to all the the rest of the people that I'm sitting there I'm like guys guys everyone Shh microphone shut up shut up for a second the loud restaurant he couldn't really like just shut up okay behind her head one of the people were with like don't look right now do not look right now but Michael J Fox is sitting just having dinner just enjoying himself and he looked great and he just he just seemed like such a good dude man I just I was like I had to stop myself from like going over there and hugging him did this like set you up for the whole weekend this is like this is it this is rocket launcher the weekend you're still on that I I am because I'm reliving it now and the funniest thing was this first thing I thought to do I don't know why it was text my mom because I knew if there was one person that was gonna get a kick out of it she would just lose her moms can be really good at that so does my mom doesn't really care that's always like a downer but most of the time it's a good right good first attempt and she knows how I feel about Michael J Fox I know how she feels about ever who doesn't like my coach ever so I text her and she freaks out okay and she goes say hi to him and I wrote and that's why that and all of a sudden I was like man am I glad she's not here yes because that would have been the word we like I'm already gone I can't expect it was like a family errand with the celebrity that's a tough one you'd make ask him about this move yeah ask him this one thing exactly for me go there's a certain unwritten law in Manhattan you don't do that you don't maybe on the street you say hey hi and you keep walking you keep walking you don't even stop you should you should but in a restaurant money's with a fam no you do not you can you can get a little peek maybe a smile but you ever love to push in there actually a couple things we had dinner a long time ago and Paul Simon was at the restaurant family theater adding my family is one right over and talk to him right they were just like mr. Simon we love your music yo talk was he upset no use he was happy it was it was like the you know they paid reverence without being quite too much the elevator guy it's a there's a I feel like you don't wanna miss Farley elevators a fine line yeah oh you know my parents my parents ran into jon stewart in Red Bank in New Jersey yeah and they were able to like successfully make it happen I thought there's a fine line though dude we were in an elevator my dad and I in Las Vegas once with Roger Ebert right we got in it was just us three we were going up to some floor I think to our hotel room my dad loved Roger sure uh the conversation did not go well oh really no it was tough my dad was very gushy about it and was really excited and he was there for a cab at shire good backfire well you just kind of I'm here for a convention very very cool and and it seemed okay but just kind of seemed like he was busy and then my dad was just mentioning stuff and he wasn't as excited he wasn't as excited to meet my dad surprisingly haha you'd be you'd be amazed their recent actually I went to a wedding in California similar moon tears I walked past Arnold Schwarzenegger for what happened then Atherton California and I freaked out because I was with my mom and my sister and we're just talking and then coming just right walking one way and down the other way is just our neural Schwarzenegger talking this is it and I'm just like looking at him as I walked past and I don't want to tell my sister I turned her afterwards it was Arnold Schwarzenegger right so why didn't you tell me right and then coming back from the cafe we saw him again walking he was just strolling up and down the street but uh yeah I was pretty I was pretty stunned yeah it's always such a weird situation what you do arielle you ever run into anyone like that that's an amazing yeah I have stoled energy I mean I've ran into a lot of celebrities in like musicians and stuff yeah but I've never really gotten starstruck the one time I did was when I met Mohamed Ali oh man yeah and I was in LA I was just walking down roadeo or something like that some rich area of LA and he was just right there just standing there but I didn't say anything I just kept going because it's ongoing yeah cuz he's you know he's older guy and there's a crowd forming so I was like I could tell he doesn't want this for sure that's amazing that was my excitement for for the weekend at all it all happened on Friday that's uh that's fantastic I was pretty good so I'm excited for this I'm excited for that for you yeah it's Monday December 8th 2014 let's start the 44 show welcome to the program ladies and gentlemen thank you for tuning into the 44 show i'm jeff bakalar joined by scott stein today thank you for being low yeah and a glad to be here glad to share any enthusiasm happy week before Hanukkah or we can answer hanukkah's soon it's oh actually I'm celebrating it early because from going away to with my family but it really took the 17th see it's late this year last year was thanks Micah all right when Italy I was like when that when that cosmic theological Eclipse have turkey and latkes and bad Jets football I'm sure they weren't playing that you're 0 for anyway Arielle moon is in the control room what's up Arielle how are you good good ah man I hanukkah's weird because Hanukkah is the one holiday they're like jumps around a bunch well they all jump around for the most it's skittish tsk you do know it's like make up your mind Hanukkah yeah it always wanted a way do you want to be a thanksgiving thing or do you want to be a christmas thing do you want to just freaked everyone out and bleed into the new year like kind of once at all it wants to be like don't do anything just my month anywhere I could be anywhere we're it now we're it's like too late we're going away I feel like we're not really gonna celebrate it properly uh and for the record when does it start cuz I I do not know the 17th oh my god here's my here's where my grandparents roll over in their graves we was hyping in windows Hanukkah start we was at a plan with my in so with the kids and my cousin and my sister yeah we de plan all this stuff so Hanukkah begins the evening of December 16th okay that's a week from tomorrow yeah yeah how about that and ends on Christmas Eve see it's just a fluid this year just Hanukkah as the preview not for the same religion but yeah you have this connection we celebrate both on both sides of the family you know what I'm getting from Hanukkah this year no oral surgery Oh awesome wait on the first night I was like sounds I this is the first night waiting for the second that finale for me the Chanukah finale I'm actually giving and not taking yeah they're removing something from my face they're also removing money from your from your account yes hopefully that's well I always always get nervous about like making sure I've enough to cover that anytime there I never know what's gonna happen it's like you're right it's a wrap you could be free it could be like no this million dollars are free yeah the most men are not even had like serious dental work in a very long time and I know I need to go it's just crazy because they don't they have they really have no idea like what each company's gonna cover they're like this could be three hundred dollars or five thousand dollars all right well as long as it's that small of a range of prices do you find I hate what I go in they tell me I pay what I think is the amount that it's gonna cost ya and then like a few weeks later some other letter arrives and they're like this is the amount you owe your like those like a fake nude boy yeah they're whatever they said apparently Spanish prisoner total lie like what the hell good man you just yet they don't want to tell you that to your face and then you have to arbitrate they're so cryptic it's like all of the alts like all of America's you know Medicaid and medical insurance passes through the North Korean government and then comes back here to be deciphered my family are mostly doctors i always ask questions about this type of stuff and never one answer yeah cuz it says it's a sore subject yeah um alright I I didn't think we were gonna have to bring this back and I brief Scott before we got going today okay I didn't think we're gonna have to revisit this awful topic but it's just it's just kind of blowing up in Discovery Channel's face so hard that I just want to reopen that wound we're talking about the butthead from last night's eaten a live episode obviously if you listen to our show you know how we feel about this so the guy who was supposed to get eaten alive by a 20-foot anaconda okay author Paul Rosalie is his name if you're looking what to like inspiration for genius to like angry angry memes right I'm gonna put that in there he was only briefly munched by a 20-foot anaconda before he got Oh a little scared dude what did you expect what nature's most fearsome sort of predators and you're like oh man wait it's really eating rate that was a terrifying idea from the get-go it it encapsulated many people's worst nightmares uh so yeah we thought it was I was gonna transcend that I thought it was going to show us here yeah it's like you know what you're gonna tell me the nightmare clowns not under my bed and he was like now I'm not gonna do it nightmare clown that you want any eden by an anaconda it was he worried at the soup I'm worried that the suit would leak you'd say an econo ass and he said it was yeah that it was preventive against digestive acid but how do you know if you're in there and sounds like wait guys guys my arms back shame our was being eaten right there's a leak digestive juices on my arm how do you get out the but the best is the quote though like sweetie see the whole thing you just laugh at because it's like man what kind of jackasses are really running this network because let's be honest this was the most jackass idea I've ever heard for a television show to get that far and come on discovery channel to like let's never forget that let's never forget this is under the umbrella of the disco seems painfully invasive for the Anaconda yes right like that magnificent anaconda right you should have an anaconda protection or it's amazing what they say they go they go ultimately after the snake constricted Paul for over an hour and went for his head the experiment they're calling it an experiment and not like just playing with fire the experiment had to be called when it became very clear that Paul would be seriously injured if he continued on the safety of all as well as the Anaconda was always our number one priority I'm sorry man how can you say force-feeding in anaconda a human in a weird suit is in any way in the safety safety interest of said anaconda like how Li not at all not at all but I think you're right maybe what happened was I'm just thinking if you went through the first experiment those have really strong muscles right they can like crush a car my first thought would be so you'd be protected in the suit it would break your spine or do something you would get so contorted in there that's why would he began to realize was like oh wow my head's being that backwards so that I wish I shall die because I'm going into an anaconda well I don't know maybe that's it it's insane I just had it impossible it's crazy we'll never get to the point where we were able to be suave an anaconda family we have hit our limit God it pisses me off so much I just don't understand and that's the only reason I'm bringing up because the guy after all this after all the weeks and weeks leading up to us and the protest and everything he got cold feet and he puts that I think first of all you could if you were smaller you think you want like a smaller adventurer to wear the suit Oh somebody gonna agree in torsion is let's hear for someone who's just like can fit like like acrobatic if into a tiny box he I don't think he was that type i think it was like a guy i want to smell like he could do this i want to see if this offends you but you probably because we've was an offensive thing we were talking about this okay week we got crazy we went totally off the deep end with like other ideas they could do and we're a back out of people not back out of but we realize i think would be interesting like maybe a very large person could house a very small person if that does it sort of like duckies I'll wrangler Ninja Turtles if you will swallowing within swallowing yeah with all of them with cameras yeah well total 21 like inner space but to the max I think like a three or four level like camber to that's stomach camera three let's go up to one and then vomit them all that be actually that doesn't offend me that's interesting I think that's a movie pitch more likely in centipede sorta stay yeah that's like that's gonna get made that movie is gonna get made now probably next year right oh I think for sure inspired by the end of Conda story like like a man nested swallowing it's unbelievable I'd watch a few minutes of them maybe I don't know I I'm so glad it ain't that thing last night the time of day we're gonna keep things a little light today I want to bring up this I'm not a huge fan of grumpy cat you know about grumpy cat I know that it's out there I've singing grumpy cat like I did watch the movie so there was a movie okay so tell me about this movie before you tell me what does anyone else feel like grumpy cat is like the equivalent of seeing the face of Jesus in a piece of wood I think them Jesus and a piece of wood is more profound yeah sure that seems really seems like a more like this seems like it's doing it too much justice right like this cat's face is just like stuck like this and this is just what it looks like and we perceive like it being grumpy when clearly a cat like the cat's not bummed out it's like I just looks bum it's just its face looks gross she's never seen happy cat so it's like to me it's not like I'm looking at lots of smiling cats all the time we're just so cheery and this one is yeah that's that's the weird part you're never gonna guess how much money grumpy cat has actually made its owner Tabitha bun-bun dicin the 29 year old a year old owner of grumpy cat has revealed that she's made around a hundred million dollars what what off of this furball I was thinking would be a hundred thousand maybe I thought maybe like a three million or at Red Lobster once their feet thirty-five dollars in valuable coupon it's it a hundred million bucks hundred off at that face is stuck like real dollars like I'm dreaming real doubt real dollar is that from from what part from ads or it's just from licensing deal yeah licensing and yet t-shirts and our celebrity appearances and I'm sure there's some licensing that's happened if you recall the move the Lifetime movie deal right which is real talk about tell me about okay I just heard about this on on Twitter one night and I thought okay I'm always good for just randomly tuning it my wife was not on board with this I don't remember the name of it it was like happy holidays with grumpy cat or something grumpy cat's Christmas grumpy cat's worst Christmas ever because grumpy cats always bummed out right so you have uh what's-her-name you of Aubrey Plaza yes in this as the voice of grumpy cat so I'm already feeling like among all lifetime movies I'm much closer to watching this now than anyone before but I actually get bad timing I caught the end of the movie before the beginning started again bruh is like on endless screening loop so i watch the last five minutes and it wasn't very good and then i watched the first 10 minutes and then i decided then then that was the the wifely like you know she's like get off the TV there's other things we should be doing now with our night like we should watch other show sure mystic let's move on with her and exactly get onto other shows that are better than this so that was it and I thought the opera plaza casting decision was a really bad one who seemed seemed totally uninterested but it wasn't even like in a good viral way it was like she is like that great acid style that's that's awesome but it somehow it didn't even work for this how did how does it not fit even this I don't understand did you ever see that netflix movie about the talking cat you know nose like a cult movie about it's a terrible the room style movie about like a talking cat never so terribly voiced over sort of felt like that in car um but not as good it's worth noting though that hundred million dollar mark is being contested like it's worth noting like a lot of people you don't believe it I don't believe um I can't I have a tough time swallowing that as well the owner this Tabitha woman says she will gladly divulge and discuss how much money she has made off of grumpy cat if the price is right for a right for an interview for Angelina I'll reveal is a self in prophecy though that is how you will discover it's funny though that that that that's the number that sort of floating around is a hundred million obviously anyone with who's maybe thought about it for a little bit done a little bit of research realizes wow that seems like a crazy amount of money but yeah I mean I have a tough time believing it too I guess has the price now been set for uh for exotic viral animals yeah this little er yeah cool 10 billion I'm gonna get like angry snake yeah for sure ever enter that show I want to hang grease Nick I'll never make that one I I want to talk a little bit about two things before we leave the first thing maybe three if we have time the first thing is VR stuff oh yeah okay so approach CES as we approach the yes and I guess this will be like some of the tech stuff we talk today it's light it's a Monday um what so you've been seeing a lot of this stuff lately I have and we were talking before the show started like there's there's like inherent technological hurdles that VR has I like what's the best VR you've seen what did you just see and and what was that cool number you threw out oh yeah so the big announcement today or big if you've been following VR stuff you know Samsung's gear VR which is a phone-based accessory that goes on to the samsung galaxy note 4 right is like an extra VR headset there's a partnership with oculus that is now available to order so you can buy a ER headset to work with your samsung phone with just your note for just the no 4 just what does it do why do I want it well you we have had a couple of years now firstly like what am I gonna do with this thing yeah besides look ridiculous right you got this gut you know you got this like you know ski mask goggly finger to put on put stick your phone in it yeah Oh your photos in it your phone goes in it culex feel like keep selling me annika almost there again yeah yeah they're just wait there's more cost two hundred dollars 250 you get the version that also comes with the gamepad they've a bluetooth gamepad great yes says all right love it I in all fairness because the easy thing is to say what why am I gonna come on man not gonna get this er hat already has an awful PR ditch to dig itself out of there are a ton of problems and make smart watches look like like an easy run right when you look at the are you do this massive thing on your face but your after year you know okay so the big other competitors are competitors but the companies that are getting into this right now oculus rift obvious still doesn't have a product still have a product in year after year you see what's really impressive looking immersive VR but no product yet and no clear sign of one's going to come out right once again they'll beat Seattle beat CS and yet thing will happen like the next iteration toward something right and then we've seen project Morpheus which is the PlayStation 4 10 works of different accessories like move accessories yeah and again when is that going to come out right is it going to come out what you know so the year after year III three you're seeing these things getting trotted out sure playing them again so people are selling once it's going to happen well this is the first one I can think of that you say well this is the commercially the commercially available yeah but it's called innovator edition it's clearly their labeling this alpha experimental you know just for enthusiasts right they're not planning on selling them to make money they're just sort of getting it out there's putting out there and part of that is probably the partnership with oculus well that's gonna soak oh so what was like the interesting thing that you said that a lot of these VR headsets are falling short because they just are two pix elated right yeah so when you put these on one thing that is cool and then the part isn't cool is that they really I think they actually feel you use project Morpheus yeah they feel pretty immersive yes you say like well the 3d part of it and how you move your head around work feels better than you'd think it would we go oh come on i right that's going to work your brain has an easy time buying yeah you sort of like stare go into the landscaping rice orbit your their gear VR which is the impressive part actually for that immersive pneus feels really similar to oculus rift and project Morpheus more than you'd think for just putting a phone in like the general immersive goggle thing very similar graphically are more limited but the pixelation is the thing so you're dealing with a really high res screen on the note 4 quad HD which is like was a 25 I mission it's well above 25 x x 16 like that um it's really it's really high-end it's a you know it's approaching like a it's like a 4k type experience android mobile type thing sure so that's more pixels you ever need on a phone but when you were using this to do 3d first of all you're splitting that image right in two and then your magnify projecting it on your eye looking at through a big magnifying lens so imagine you're looking at a screen through that and you'd see the pixels where you see the pixels you can see through the pixels which is the weird thing that is weird you know so like that you you you get the idea of like it's like an Atari but pixelated blocky but through that screen almost the 3d comes through right but if you're looking at photos and videos there's a chance you'd look at it and think this immersive pneus looks really cool yeah but it's not going to look as crisp and amazing as on my phone or on my TV so where do we have to be in order for our brains to not be able to tell difference between VR and real life right we're staring at and going I'm looking across the room the 3d effect of school now I'm lookin at that camera or this table and man the detail is perfect I mean remember speaking with with some folks at oculus and the number that was thrown out there when I looked at one of the prototypes new Crystal Cove was it was it that one I'm getting okay you see a lot of VR there's a lot of your things you've gone VR crazy 8k was a number that was thrown so that that way a moment when VR would become to really hit that moment so easily immerse so what retina did for printed paper and text communique could do for VR and true to life that is a photo realism yeah and so you'd say what I'm ever use a que displays for well vr is something they can actually use it or maybe they find some other way around it right right now it's it's it's okay but it's it that pixelated pneus for for lack of a better word is doesn't feel pixelated so much is that you can see the actual set that the graphics are pixelated it's the actual display you can actually see the displays pixels right sense so you're seeing through that you go so if you're playing like on a on a Morpheus or oculus I still feel like I can see a little bit of the screen sure me sure that's a problem plus processor power I mean right you're pushing that yeah I mean we have a hard enough time II the idea even pushing 4k for anything interesting like games is gonna take a really long time it's weird I feel I don't know how all this VR stuffs gonna shake out because my opinion just have like too many different technologies on different levels of like chronological to you know advancement and nothing's really lining up well there's a tailor attempts to that's the interesting things is so gear VR you're running off of this Snapdragon 805 and you're dealing with it's a mobile Android system so there are games and some of them look pretty cool we're like mobile games better than you might think sure for rightly they don't really feel that slowed down but they will feel less graphically rich gotcha but they're in 3d but then they claim that some of the picture and video stuff yeah should be able to go up into other levels of VR so on a PC side maybe you start creating these experiences for um I mean they're shooting videos now using spherical cameras right and they do is to create these kind of high mountains look around and look around that's theoretically great but getting the set up with that camera any of a smaller sort of unit yeah getting enough of that content made it is going to become tough to me to justify that I like the idea of experimenting with this but sure I agree for the average person it's just not it's just not there yet and nobody even on the side of people making this nobody feels it is they still feels like there's an idea that this is two or three years away from even hitting a moment of wow the Sun you really want to buy but it's finally becoming and you can't interact with it so you know you want to reach out and grab some right you feel parallel you have to look around like this is a touchpad yeah and you click the touchpad or use a game controller so you're kind of doing this you're kind of doing like Google glass you're sure i doing like a little you just you just look crazy if you see people playing games on glass I've ever seen that you know it's like that you're sort of doing a thing where you're tapping some technology great great this is where we are we're the bleeding edge right upside head tapping but it is out there for people want to make that stuff and dive in I think that's the idea that this is a cheap ish kit that you could get if you're interested in development there'll be more on this absolutely next month at CES if you can believe it in one month will already be out there in Las Vegas for for CES 2015 in a month will almost be done I know it's don't remind me being a hour tired victory lap what would I rather you ask me what would I rather have oral surgery or go to CES the answer might surprise you ok swallowed by an anaconda ya sea swallowed by a gun ah so last night just real quicks the sony playstation network was hacked again seemed just like a takedown hack but for a couple hours last night it was not working and a group called lizard squad I'm sorry hacking groups you got to get some better names that sound scary being users pretty scared I don't know if I find the idea being hacked terrifying yeah but like it these guys are they're there hacking and they're doing all this nefarious garbage and then they're like gotcha lizard squad it's like how are you so good at hacking but so shitty at naming your organization up with incredibly awesome up with school things man outsource it to James Cameron or Michael Bay and have them create the name for you there's I can million good names and all the wind gibson novel yeah he does right right get ashore what's one cool name off the top here can you think of one a wintermute was on wintermute gone yeah was the hacking group ever you're cooler than an honor mr. music is terrifying it and loll second all these guys just get a better name that's not a lot to ask is it do some research on all they named it after a neal stephenson novel or something can name him after like Billy Joel albums even they're fine you know turnstiles done even call yourselves like the midnight society yeah that's cooler than lizard squad and mean we have a ms of a personal meaning or something might have a son you know I don't know maybe they're hoping like Arizona and I will admit I am you're more skin terrified I've criticizing the name if their name was axin jihad like in True Lies I'd be wasting more scared right I'm sorry so I gotta say it's all I can say finally it's not my favorite is it not my favorite name it's not you could say it's terrible like I don't think they're gonna target you you could be laying all others are squad you guys are pretty scary but your name sucks I think it's the squad part exactly yeah I just think it's that part I like the idea of like I like a name like a web bright or a net yeah like an all-seeing you know sort of I like if that were a logo of a company finally mine finally I want to talk about more scary sci-fi stuff a techno paranoia themed show that you've recently gotten into and I want myself to get into uni that's called the black mirror yeah called black mirror black mirror what's it about it's on netflix now why should people check it out yeah this is not available to watch in an easy way for all for a long time maybe there was no way to buy it there was no way to rent in two seasons right to seasons okay with a third christmas special on the way cuz of course it hey no as i love UK television this is a Christmas special for everything alright so tell me is like the wire christmas special machine old ya know they would totally do that get me the quick like elevator pitch up it with black mirror so people can why they should check it out um it's twilight zone for a paranoia driven technological bleeding edge future it's like Max Headroom okay uh but with the episode length of Sherlock or close to it five minutes not an hour and a half okay I can handle you know you have your classic British TV season of like three episodes so each each series is only three episodes only six episodes total that they tackle bleeding-edge weird questions of identity and culture and horrible situations really wonderfully made and these are made in 2011 Charlie Brooker's a guardian columnist to write you know just say they dove in our writing these really critically acclaimed pieces I've looked actually two of the episode so far both were extremely upsetting really upsetting yeah they're really world I mean are there just like their settings really like what the Hopi I'm sort of like tell like we're done there's knows there's no going back sorry much it the classic sort of we're done there's no going back it's very much of the like more about Twitter Facebook community uh horrible aspects like internet actually feels more appropriate now for all the stuff that we've been dealing with in 2014 right on all fronts yeah that usually happens yeah kind of feels like it's perfect timing flicks yeah yeah because I hit 2011 maybe people thing about the possibilities we've been in a lot of this stuff now I kinda feel like there are many things 2014 that could in Black Mirror episodes yeah that are black mayor episodes real pretty cool so yeah you should watch it everyone or watchin yeah I wanna check it out but it's you know I don't want to overhype it but I I I found that it still was was really great and there should be more things like that it reminds you that we're in such changing times that I wanted a Twilight Zone for our age for a long time this gets really close to it man it's so funny you bring that up because New Year's New Year's Eve is coming fast approaching and like I want every year I just binge on that sci-fi twilight zone marathon because those episodes are still so relevant and they're they're timeless and they're really amazing stuff well it's weird there were a lot of times with our limits and other shows and people experimented with this and I don't know why I think we're going to get back to it everything is like black mirror gonna draw even like a queer lit with like x-files to it definitely bleeds into that whole genre for sure Bryant really until i binge connected plot lines yeah but I want to get back to the anthology all right go check out black mirror on netflix now Scott Stein recommendation appreciate you being here to a buddy hey glad to be here I'm gonna die no I got that burned I shall I was about to give out on Monday Burpo's like yep and then a little explorer was gonna come out of my mouth a little guy named we going bro my experiments over tada yes secrets out now I think I just think about all the stuff we're gearing up for 4cs it's a separate discussion but it's gonna be the crazy mess and particularly for things like wearables and VR and where everybody's going to want more than ever to be involved or two it's gonna be scavenger hunt alright fair enough will will definitely check out your stuff at CES 2015 and follow Scott on twitter at jets Scott that will do it for us today I as is back tomorrow and we'll catch you then until next time I'm Jeff Bakalar I'm Scott Steiner I mariela nunez thanks for tuning in to the 404 show high tech lowbrow we will see you tomorrow I'm Saito Lee forgot to announce this but I have we have a contest I want to talk about really what I know I feel like such as schmuck I should have done it at the top but everyone will hear the easter egg if you ain't no listen you'll find out tomorrow also we're giving away omaha steaks that's awesome you wanted to laugh no I'm late well it was not well I was expecting something electronic but I was like steak was not what I thought you were gonna sign know who would turn down steak I know and here's what it is it's called the tasteful gift I I feel bad because yeah I should have done this at the top but it's fine the tasteful gift is the prize pack it comes with look at this cuz you I know you're like me you love to stay low to this day I get a lot of 25 ounce fillets okay okay then you get 25 ounce top sirloins 44 ounce burgers 45 of weight for 5.75 out stuffed baked potatoes how freaking starving are you right now I'm like I want all of this and then top it off you get for chocolate molten lava cakes you shouldn't eat all that at once it's a battle last you like that's just like one even at least two months yes correctly that's it's great right so we're giving out two of those all you gotta do is go to CNN com 404 or cnet dot C 0 / 40 for steaks cnet dot CEO / 40 for steaks it's the meat sweeps how do you like that means sweet yeah holiday meet sweeps I feel terrible i forgot to announce it at the top but it starts right now you can go to the website and enter to win it's a caption contest there's a funny photo of us and you just have to caption it that's it you comment in the in the blog post and banner you're entered to win that is it ok ok now we're good to go that's good alright follow us on Facebook Twitter Instagram 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