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by CES 2011 arm Jeff Bakalar I'm Wilson tang and I'm Justin you and this is the show where we do it without glasses we don't need glass in your glasses yeah I can see you guys Oh glass I'm taking these things off ladies and gentlemen joining us for the first part of our show today mr. Clayton Morris remote Morris thank you guys for having me thank you for roping me in at the when I was eating my box lunch that's fine your CES box lunch yeah would you by the way it's the unhealthiest box lunch hahaha it's like three different types of junk food all in one and everyone has left the Apple there's an apple in the box and looks like thousands of apples gathered up around the press room right now I'm gonna say to use for later that's so sick so what is it this year because normally it's like a like a they've got like a chicken Caesar salad then they've got a ham swiss set our ham swiss cheese thing that's been there i think for a couple of hours i think i got the last box lunch really there's something there's something wrong for the hole right there was something wrong with it I'm sure but now I'm not hungover or something like that yeah if that ham starts getting to me you know what's wrong but thank you for having me guys our pleasure you've been here you're a long time a guest on our show we loved having you whenever you can be available how's your show going so far other than the food it's been good you know I think there's a lot more excitement this year than there was last year it seems like there's a lot more categories that are interesting instead of just last year everyone was anticipating what Apple was going to do a few weeks later with the ipad and last year it seemed like all the talk was only around 3d TVs sure right remember I think I even wore 3d glasses on the show here last year yeah okay so last year was 3d glasses and now they're like I'll take those off right like don't realize no one wants to wear them it's all say year to right and they cost like at least one hundred fifty dollars each they weren't cheap right and if you get a bundle of five some of the televisions coming with like three of them or five of them you know if you've got kids laying around and you see them they're breaking them in half and we just one hundred and fifty dollars a piece so I think there's a lot of different categories this year that are exciting I mean we're certainly seeing a lot of accessories a lot of things it seems like it took two years to get those add-ons to a lot of the iOS devices that we were hearing about blood pressure monitors heart rate monitors I mean finally finally after two years but some really useful things like the dr. Albert came up with this ECG monitor that you slap right on your iphone four monitors your heart rate be able to email your heart information right to your doctor not have to worry about a nurse coming to your house on a regular basis well you probably like that is the only and I'm in need of medical assistance little too late to have to wait for the internet you know what I mean I mean it might be faster than that one I guess regardless well I you know back to what Clayton was saying though I I agree with him I think this is one of the most exciting CES is since I've you know been doing this because it's it's more than you know windows laptops and desktop machines now like we were actually starting to see things outside of oh now it's now you can open up word ten times faster great connected cars mean we're seeing what Ford is doing here for it as a big huge presence this year at CES which is exciting seeing a lot of the connected devices so I think there's a lot of categories that I'm excited to see a 3d cameras looking at some of the different 3d cameras for the first time in that you got to see a bunch of really like actually useful 3d cameras well I mean Fuji you know Fuji get rolled out there finepix and the software is unusable by the way but I really like the actual don't get the native software for but the actual cameras itself really you know it's really interesting that with the dual the dual lenses and taking still photos and HD video and a consumer's rights look at them well all the devices software right or you'd put on you know you'd have them you can want you actually look at them on your desktop but then the special software mostly you're looking at them on the device and then I guess you could output it over hdmi and through you know through to your three or 3d television those glasses no I mean these are that's what's great about looking at that type of camera is that you don't need the glasses LG also has a prototype DTV mobile television with the antenna so it's the over-the-air signal in 3d it's a prototype right now but with no glasses so you're starting to see no glasses i know that was fast the whole glass you got here very quick well speaking of 3d you got to speak to the president nintendo today yes about the nintendo 3ds right yes is here it's it's really cool i I never had a chance to actually sit down and play with it but you know it's sort of like how connects remember magic I you guys remember manager Guy when you look at a painting to look for the hidden unicorn really I think I see a unicorn or a sewer but that is like getting the book or something yeah and then never be able to see it across your own eyes you know I can't see any way nobody really would have puked after you read the fine print on the 3ds is there were people like Wilson who have glaucoma hahaha or the part of magic I the way that worked was they they wanted you to cross your eyes a little huh they were like all right you're gonna go ahead and play with yourself a little as I all right but the 3d s obviously doesn't require that but there is a sort of I'd say half a second moment where you have to your eyes have to sort of agree with the screen yeah and you then you're locked in well then immerse the old going back and of course one of the big stories that come out a few weeks ago at the 3ds is about the age level the age restriction playing with your seven or eight years old don't be given to the kids because their eyes haven't fully matured yet mature enough yet to dig it handle three eyes yes sorry to gain weight and we all know you just had a baby a couple months ago you can't just give him a 3ds to you know take care of himself for the next couple hours right yeah you gotta handle my still I guess you got to go back and hand him an ipod touch that's not safer for a toddler right regardless of what we've seen so far at CES I think we're all in agreement that the bit we do best of on Saturday forget it we're done we know what we want right now already know what festive see already best of CES calling it now calling it now it doesn't require batteries you have to plug it in you have to do anything ladies and gentlemen the Angry Birds board game the only one that isn't excited about this no they brought it out to the stage yesterday and it was the most unbelievable thing just 30 grown adults it's fully grown adults freaking out over it it's one look like McDonald's toy it's like using a catapult to pull back fake Birds to shoot at something here's what a shot of it right here isn't give a shot of it this yeah you guys are freaking out about 99 from Mattel coming in May an analog version of angry birds exactly absolutely I'm okay with it but maybe we're just so uh yeah overburdened with the digital technology struck just we want to use go back to lego now I mean that's come on that's best of senior because if I had that my sister was in the house I would forget the board game and I just be pulling back and shooting birds and my sister all the time well you know speaking of which your jeff had the brilliant idea yeah earlier let's maybe get the audience and clean and maybe anyone else who wants to help us out so we love Angry Birds except for Justin who has no soul but but uh stuff let's say we have a little discussion about which angry birds we all look like okay this is something not really go this is good this is good so we have we have a great a shot on Justin's computer heck this so there you go there the Angry Birds roster okay God so clearly clearly I think our friend Justin now correct me if I'm wrong you guys can vote and change what your ideas I think Justin is our little let you know the fast yellow guy oh don't say yellow cuz the channel mom you guys go there play along with me got the yellow angry bird yeah because he's thin and pointy he's in and pointy and any offense and if you're pissing off he breaks through would easily yeah it looks like doesn't look like which one is it Ernie Ernie from Sesame I now I can see it now you put it let's go to Wilson clearly I mean this is a given who even your wardrobe supports the idea that clearly hash Wilson is the bomb the bomb one you don't think so i can just explode at any moment you know what you're saying you once you touch something you explode a second later yeah I could see that that's how I treat basically Wilson wreaks havoc right around anything right everything around so a lot of things are killed in his presence that right yeah well I could see out inanimate object so is the translucent bird that's what I'm the last one there's a mr. glass an honor of your winter beard here I would say you are the red one and classic angry bird just ornery as all hell yeah and just ready to blow up at any minutes unhappy to be there I think it's true i mean even that's the angriest of all the birds and i would think that that fits you well even the eyebrows are angry yeah that's true well you know he doesn't get a lot of love it's the first guy you get and he doesn't have any superpower they all have superpowers be the white guy drops a bomb well clearly you've been playing the game too long cuz you know later the red angry bird gets really fat oh yeah it just gives it up this gives it up so now what do we think Clayton who can we give Clayton right now how about the eagle oh the mighty the mighty eagle ID play this I I know about him it's a sheet right yeah its a cheat like you have to pay 99 cents extra yeah it's an in-app it's an in-app purchase and so a lot of parents are finding that their kids are in app purchasing the eagle yeah and they get this little in-app purchase and they and it becomes flies right through the whole level and destroys everything yeah bird yeah have you seen you've seen the Eagle right have you ever done the chart of him I refuse to cheat I wonder does the Eagle come with the board game it's just like a giant of my Eagle sure it comes in here by isn't it uh we got a lot more to talk about Microsoft had their press conference last night that was I gotta say the least interesting microsoft press conference I've ever seen well we all know that you despise the company no I mean like every year they set this you know the i guess the tone of CES sure and I think that's the sort of the biggest change this year than anything else no all these manufacturers releasing tablets the high windows thing is like such an afterthought and last night's press conference was essentially connect bright which it was very successful sure but it's not you know the windows Empire right and like it was just a huge letdown great so you can use your hands to watch Netflix movies yeah that's kind of a letdown i connect to sold eight million units which is mind-blowing right but I think that that would happen in doing that we are batting zero oh yeah don't I think we've learned a lesson don't go to Jeff for your prediction I was like avatar is gonna suck i say um but you know I guess you look at okay so they're giving you the ability to use your hands to control hulu and netflix now i have you tried doing that with like zune content cuz you can do that now with the zoom have you try i haven't tried it was soon I mean I like I mean I like the kinect experience using your hands to go through menus doing the different workouts doing the different games I can't stand the voice the voice activation for Kinect if you played with the voice activation to say connect go back to this menu connect box listen amongst yeah do this it doesn't listen to you even in a quiet room it's like you're gonna continue playing black ops yeah I've even I've even like covered my walls and pillows and padding just to make sure it wasn't picking up in the ambient noise and still wouldn't figure out what I was saying so that's a bit of a gimmick but I think people are super and when you see kids before the first time actually playing it and they had all those stations set up at best buys now when you to a best buy they had a connect station set up there they had a sony move station set up there and so kids was i was walking through best buy's over there over christmas you're seeing all of these kids just jumping in playing it and their parents are standing off to the side saying all right I know what I have to get them this year so it seemed like a no-brainer you know it's great when I was in Hong Kong um they there were all these like connect booths and like we all know you know the game DDR yes yeah dance dance dance dance revolution that was that was there was huge in Asia and I feel like this is like in home ddr as they set up all these things and people were just like performing you know they joint screens stages and they were selling the kinect but people are up there performing dancing I saw these really kind of interesting add on to like for black ops okay there's already a gun holster for the i believe the controller oh no 44 x by request before connect I think it was it was crazy like you're inventing product I mean this was the kinect I now I don't know if it was legit or for real because this was Hong Kong but like but this doesn't that sort of fly in the face of what we'd expect from Connect which is you don't need a controller you don't need any of these things you know I I doubt that the the first if you're playing a first-person shooter you don't want that going like this yeah you don't be like this you know it's I gotta say like the driving game Oh what's the driving connect connect Joyride Joyride there I feel like an idiot yeah it's doing this yeah great like I'm dancing alone in your studio apartment you don't feel like that's what you do every night I dude yeah I have a secret a secret fantasy about about doing doing the kinect dance with dance studio know what is a dance studio dance central sure which is I want to be as good as like Napoleon Dynamite but I want everyone to think I'm a 62 lanky white guy and they're like that guy can't dance him like I've been in my apartment now and dance central for three months I don't move I just called up seamlessweb they've been delivering pizzas under the door for the past three months and now I'm going to answer some bell biv devoe minja miracle i right yeah virtual insanity I'm loving it well you came by you actually brought like a really cool gadget right word this is crazy it's rare that you're at CES and something stops you in your tracks and you're like wow I've got to get my hands on that so I'm gonna show I stole it if security is around hopefully they won't see it now they let me use it because i'm going to show this off on fox and friends tomorrow morning and they have different mounts so this is from tiffin and it makes it say it's a Steadicam so this mount pops in here so now this is the iphone 4 amount they have flip flip minnow mounts old I older iPhones 2 3gs and the 3g it snaps right into right into the mount that's amazing if I could do this tactfully which I can't so you got to carry around this steady cam I mean how how is that practical well I mean you're not going to take you know take it around if you're shooting little film and you're shooting stuff for the kids the kids are running around the backyard so it's a Steadicam that no matter what I do does that blow your mind or what America this is a magician David Copperfield I'm baseman and so I wait I took it actually down the steps over here yeah I actually took it down the steps of CES and I ran down the bottom steps and shot video of it at the same time and you can't tell it looks like I'm going down an escalator the whole time so this I me nuts amazed it's pretty cool once you get a little used to doing it you can do like pan you know pan and tilts from this and you can run through so I was getting some Steadicam shots as I was going through the the floor here and it looks like I'm on a track another screen or what oh what oh that here we go Wow check that out have you ever seen a forehead like that panadura wow look at that incredible that's crazy how much is that gonna cause a good question I think they're you know it's a different mounts and I don't know that they have I don't know that they have the price points because there's actually once you can put on with other camcorders on top of its ok I'm not sure about all the different price points but I think they're under a hundred dollars well you know like when okay so Steadicam the company tiffin and when I like they're mostly known for professional products and the moment I saw this I can imagine so many dads so many you know people of family we want to take quality home videos not the shaky mess that you know everybody like already puts on YouTube right this I mean know if it this changes everything really be about a hundred dads carrying around this steady I mean you know it also does it takes a need for you to zoom on the iphone right it takes a need it takes a need for you to have to zoom away if you're in a soccer game with the kids you can pan down the field and get great shots of your kids what's up is like jumping shots of you know one of these spielberg's on the sideline you know crashing down know that some dad is gonna be popping this in a suitcase taking it on a European trip and it's why female what in the world you brought that with you and he's gonna be out there at the Louvre walking around getting shots I mean and I know a lot of the DSLRs this year and the future ones produce like really high quality HD 1080p video I mean like very very I know music videos even films I think a couple of TV shows a shot on two or three thousand dollar DSLRs slept one of those babies on top of those and there's really not too much difference between you and Spielberg I mean of course 10 million dollars and say billions of dollars then you can produce a film like AI yeah you're right all the different mounts that they have available so it's not just for iphone it's not just for flip I mean all the different higher-end cameras too but and they have some different different mounts so it's not just this bottom piece here but it might be to that one extends a little bit longer so yeah you know you're taking steady cams I don't know much about how the cost of them but I know for film project thousands and thousands of dollars just right just to write not even 20 like I I've actually I used to do some Steadicam being myself and it's it's crazy heavy you can only wear it for a couple hours before you're back there though you had a wrap it all the way back and this like I mean incredible how far technology because the iPhone itself does 720p HD right so you're shooting HD video on the iphone yeah the 720p and you know and the microphones pretty good too so there it is from tiffin pretty cool thanks for bringing that along Clayton I want to talk about the razor switchblade have you guys seen this so this is like a gaming product right it is and it's I guess the best way to describe it is a PC portable gaming console okay so razor if we have a little over here are alienware laptop sorry so yeah they're short of the size of these m11x is I'm maybe it's a little smaller but what's cool about this thing is that the buttons are they can have interchangeable icons they're like I guess they're like little LED displays each button and every game can be programmed to you know fill up those spaces so you can tell from the photo all those keys on there are custom made from whatever game it's running so you're really into call of duty or something like that I guess I don't know how it how comfortable it will be a handheld sort of keyboard with a screen attached to it but you know razor you customize your the keyboard shortcut and can you customize it that way I would imagine that's part part of the the deal but uh you know razor we love razor stuff they make great accessories this is very ambitious to say the least does it well I'm curious about your thoughts on like gaming laptops in general I mean are they starting to are we starting to see them go away no they're staying right here and we love this alienware sweeter some of the heavy ones I mean there you know they're like 400 pounds but I mean is that what we're seeing we're seeing those large ones are we gonna see I just don't see as many choices as we were you ever a big pc game of yourself pc gamer yeah but it's not on a laptop I've just never your LAN parties and yeah we go it easy crazy land parties what base for how many basements have you stretches yeah world of warcraft usually basements in Pennsylvania carpeting it's rotting i'm just i'm sure there's like mold spores under their reading that finally clean myself up and showered yeah but I don't know like I feel like especially okay happy to say this I i think that the largest segment of the pc gaming population is still World of Warcraft right right okay that's fair I I mean I can be fair like it's probably huge chunk a lot of the numbers and those gamers want like as many buttons on their keyboard as possible about like 90 million shortcut they won't read everything you know reload and all that jazz sure i'm also infused what people that are playing pc games on the go to are these guys with going to coffee shops and i thought you would do that at home in the privacy of your parents patient right you've got your mount you got your tower you've got everything set up all you need is a good mouse and you're playing in starbucks man you're what your ass get so proud right it might yeah it was on I would surely ok to start showing their face yeah how dared it I don't know but it but I mean you know I there is a market for it yeah well it reminds me of the people who go to starbucks it have the whole office setup right I passed somebody the other day in New York at a starbucks and he had like a printer honey I think yet a printer and a huge laptop and I things like and he had everything set up like he's working there like that's his office now why not I feel like you know like in the tech world you know that there's like these startup incubators I really think Starbucks is by far the world's largest is every time you walk into any starbucks it's college students and like startup entrepreneurs just sitting there yeah you can't ever get a seat in starbucks come on ever I've ever said one ever world problems alert this is why you're the red angry bird this is what I'm the red angry bird I want to talk about on live you guys know about on live the streaming game pc gaming initiative they're building it into vizio so what about this on live you say for the non gamers right in the room i just explained it yeah so clean have you had some time to check out on live it's built into a line of visio televisions now so you know we're talking about over the air all look heavy computing is done all the graphic processing is done you know remotely and you're just sort of like sling boxing that screen of gaming do we know do we know latent latency times yet for it i mean weight around with it right a little with it but apparently it performs well enough that the delay it doesn't affect your have you guys had any experience with onlive don't all jump at once yeah yeah somebody baton oh we had one latency did you notice any latency yeah a little bit slow course we're also here where there's all kinds of latency right so that could be an issue too sure but yeah you know I actually beyond just the online thing I think Vizio is doing some interesting things I mean I like the whole ecosystem of the via plus and being able to bring in the tablet bring it'll bring in the phone and you know because I look at my my audience and I think about I think about when first of all in this economy right Vizio has that footprint at walmarts and targets right and so they have that space already locked up low-cost but really well done televisions and be able to have that ecosystem that someone can get in on and get a tablet get a phone and it all works together is pretty exciting so I think Vizio is doing some interesting things yesterday like I it's hard to believe that just you know three four years ago that vizio like people would laugh at you know you oh it's because you can't afford like a decent set and now they've got all these like frankly great products like the we mentioned the tablet and the phone yesterday right now the the now their TV instead of just oh it's got the best black level ever at this point I don't think anybody cares whether it's like 10 million or 100 million they're adding features like online built in gaming and I think that that's like the future everybody thinks that smart TV is going to take off this year the whole google thing kind of slowed down but I think applications like this you know I kind of believe that the next generation of consoles may be the last one that's not built into a TV set really yeah I mean more like the wood is the PlayStation 4 or Xbox 720 whatever it's going twice one tell us like you know we've got like Google TV already being built in right you know everybody's anticipating apple releasing HDTV it's not too hard to extrapolate you know getting if not the best console experience a good enough council experience on your HD t-shirt and it's running below also too I mean it's not it's not running above Android it's running below it from what I understand so it's it has better access to the hardware so there's not as much latency but you know again once you get some of these graphics intensive games we actually start to sit down you're away from CES where it's really hard to test anything that's on any sort of a network here because you're gettin you're just gettin all sorts of weird times with it so it'll be interesting to see once do we know a time when is that it's not launching for as a cute is it cue to do they say yeah I even wear that like I know that on live doing some testing a while ago I wasn't even wear that the actual console came yeah the micro console a micro console is that what they call let's let's switch gears I want to talk about tablets I want to talk about the blackberry playbook have you gotten a chance you had a chance clean to check first time that they've they've had an actual working unit it's just been a video up until just been an idea it's just been yeah it's just been hidden behind a glass enclosure that we can't I know so I haven't had a chance to get over there yet to do it cuz I've been running around like a chicken with my head cut off today but do you think it has a chance you know I have a lot of people who are excited about I mean I have a lot of people who write to me and say that they're excited about the PlayBook that they're holding off to get a tablet until they see the PlayBook so I think there's that I think there's that built-in core group of people that love blackberry and they can't wait to they can't wait to see what that looks like on a tablet and you know I think with 4g on sprint I think you know it's a compelling product also loved Motorola's xoom tablet mean so I think they're doing some really incredible things but then of course you just walk and you see 800 tablets all at once so the ones that stand out are definitely the blackberry playbook but have you guys played with it I have not gotten a chance having had to play with it in hand I did get to play with the motorola xoom yeah yeah it's a very sleek very cool looking device but I'm a little you know wary because it's it's what the PlayBook was a couple of months ago right now it's just a video like when when they gave it to us to play this video I'm sure there's lots of you know after effects funny they were happy but I I did do some scanning through so many stuff and it was pretty fast it was not video stuff that I got to scan through so i just ate his screens beautiful and you know i think it's i think it's the tablet that android fans have been waiting for i think it's exciting and I think finally you know first of all it's built for the tablet form factor so we have honeycomb and it's finally built for the tablet form factor you know I felt like the get samsung galaxy tab for the first time to me android felt like it had room to breathe so now it'll be interesting to see it fully baked inside the inside the motorola xoom engine honeycomb and yesterday google released like a video demoing the the operating system and it's the first software from google that's specifically designed for tablets right and I got to say I'm very impressed with the UI I don't quite understand it just yet yeah but I think it looks pretty cool real whoa whoa wait what switch which one is this him about a non apple product hahaha you guys are witnessing history oh go on go on oh yeah well come on you hate everything but Apple is oh we've got a lien where laptops uh Oh Clayton overhears anyone with a mac is this true so I i don't know i would actually very impressed the UI i think looks really sleek yeah it kind of reminds me of this is gonna sound kind of weird but I really does feel like the future yeah like on screen the holographic it's just it's really you know like it screams future star trek Minority Report all that stuff like I want to see that built in with a connect someone hacked that right oh you so you could just you know wave your hand and from cruise in jail figure out who you're gonna kill before we let you go and before our break want to talk really quickly about Star Wars I know you're a big star wars fans you're coming to blu-ray what are your thoughts my thoughts are do I have to buy another version of Star Wars yes of course you have to buy a lot of one right is this the extended one that'll have Jar Jar Binks like in every extra scene that I could possibly with no you know what I bought the original VHS then I have the the limited edition box set the one that slides up the blue one that slides up that has the hologram on the front that has the star wars book and all that stuff inside of it which was like 190 dollars when I got the original dvds and then I got the remastered updated ones with all the extra stuff shoved into it now I'm going to go buy a blu-ray with some extra special features are these the only ones that are available on through these are the ones that through panasonic right oh no I I think that right now you can only pre-order the blu-rays on amazon but yeah I mean you're absolutely right like I got it i'll admit i own the DVD boxset own the original VHS listicle come on yeah but why I'm it's like the Beatles they were number one they were number one cell I mean in the top ten they had like the number-one albums that whole week when they launched in itunes you're thinking don't all these people already owned them owned at least the CD you know you can you know the whole point itunes is taking that city and popular right now so you know i mean you know that the star wars fans are gonna go right out there and buy all of the all the blu-rays right away i think the point is that it can't really get any better right like this is 1080p HD like you're not gonna get they'll figure something out there still gonna look what about 3d we need X that'll need another year for now yes 2012 wait and see ladies don't give our guests Clayton Morris a big round of applause thank you so much for being here we got to take a break more 404 live from CES 2011 right after this you to the 404 live from the CES 2011 show floor Justin you how are you enjoying yourself yeah all right I'm a little under the weather you are but reminds me I feel like we should tell people what the 404 is about because someone just came up to us and asked what we do why are you oh yeah stop talking so we should try to justify why we're here sure you have this magazine cut out that apparently explains it this is kind of interesting let's explain first off of what what the 404 is weird let's apologize for the name because it's probably has named a history of recorded audio okay that you know the mistakes were made but you know the our show was a daily web show where we we pick apart bits and pieces of the internet that we find funny yes you know because the internet is pretty stupid and we like to make fun of it on a daily show called the 404 and it's true live every day 1130am eastern time and there's a chat room you can join it's the 404 dot cnet com we have to stick rehab nowhere thicker sure we're the only people at CES I believe with stickers to help explain where the 404 terminology stems from an anonymous fan of the show was nice enough to submit this sort of 404 lexicon identifier thing I'm going to read from this right now you know it's just sort of like the dictionary definition of 404 okay number one this is might seem obvious number one is the number preceding 405 that's literally what itself you could start here early what it says okay so if you couldn't figure that number two number two it happens to be the Atlanta area code which we found out with a lot of our fans from Atlanta call up and they're like why you you know why you trying to represent you right exactly number three is like the real reason the real nerd the web page a you know error why is how we did error code right and number four and I'm not joking number for the worst podcast on the internet haha no it actually says clueless but that resonated sure so that's the definition officially here at CES very exciting stuff yeah let's move along to some stories we have Justin you are the 404 resident food aficionado right clearly you eat a lot aficionado as much as like a terrible food rebel food connoisseur definitely okay if it will kill you or take five years over your life right Justin knows about it well as you guys know I love eating processed food right and to prove that I wanted to show you guys this the Campbell's Chunky soup wireless cooking kit yeah I think I seen this I don't have it on the showroom floor but uh this is actually a cup of soup that you can cook on a coupled power table so so this is taking advantage a lot of companies there's powermat there's a lot of companies releasing these wireless charging station right this is the e coupled version i call it yeah and all you have to do is put this cup of soup that you buy from the store on a countertop that's a couple powered press either low medium or hot heat I need my cooking for you there's something very wrong no like my seated there's no chance you'll get cancer right yeah I go I soup to have LED lights on it I don't I don't want my soup to be electronic I want it to be analog with you know with real food in it had uh and what if this thing you know explodes Allah you ever cook soup in the microwave it bubbles over well no one that's already pre life Jeff all you have to do is heat it up that's what this technologies you're taking a chance that's true well okay like I'm not telling you're gonna cook steak on this well I have imagined a little filet and yeah that would be really depressed I mean like I so look like the whole wireless charging thing is taken off right I mean a lot of people think that's really cool not having to plug up anything right or to charge your phone energizer had the wireless charging pad or you just put your iPhone on top and it'll charge and you know like for people like you would you seriously consider buying like a i guess a wireless charged yes there's why suffering you guys you have people to cook food for you I live by myself so I mean anything that will cut down on the cooking times single guys an elaborate call for help yeah that's really that's that's basically what you said but but so trying all of us are married you know what can you say so like what other applications can you think of because I am assuming this up sort of coil or something inside of it hitting up the soup like are we talking steak later down the road oh wait I'm senior onions bag right the kitchen of the future will just comprised of power mass yeah I knew this time machine that Owens and then you'll shelf hydrate your pizza like in Back to the Future like you your pizza is now dry weight yeah so that's well that's a little huh yeah well I thought that was pretty cool that it is pretty I actually do think there's some net is really my own life yeah absolutely you know in it it's a one less thing to have like a microwave stove refrigerator who needs it right yeah wireless to 2011 that's your best come a long way wireless yeah definite out of all the things to digitize yeah soup with lucky forget isn't it oh you meant you mentioned LTE just before the show started there was the verizon press conference they you know most of it was about skype so they're there and they rolled out their plans for LTE uh you know it wasn't i wasn't really super interested in anything that was right going on because they didn't say anything about an iphone let's be honest let's go spey to see that's why you're upset right yeah well everybody's been anticipating the verizon iphone last night some images of the i guess the skeleton of the iphone leaked out and it looks a lot like the iphone 4 but the i guess the edges have different it's just a slightly different shape than original iphone people are speculating this is what the what Verizon may release it might actually be like a world phone that'll work anywhere because it has a GSM compatible slot everything so I'm excited about that and everybody was sort of hoping that Verizon would have nounced the iphone at CES that didn't happen but Apple in typical fashion did release something this morning that was the mac app store right so you've been clamoring to get this off your chest you keep touching me under the table here say let's talk about the story so Wilson explain to us what's the mac app store and what's it all about they apple took the you know the iOS App Store and decided to pour it over to the mac and now you know a lot of the sort of bait I wouldn't say big bottle there are a lot of apple applications now that you can just purchase with your iTunes ID install your computer never have to worry about the updates I had a chance to personally play with it yet right I'm having been update my Mac here but it it seems like a really interesting concept for operating systems down the road I think windows 8 Android obviously already has one about it it's how people going to get software in the future I don't think anybody's ever really going to go to a store anymore or after a couple years from now nobody's ever going to go to store to buy software just like couple years from now nobody's ever gonna go to store to buy a video game right well yeah I think that's already happening though I mean I mean you've talked about this on you on pregame before no do you think like PlayStation 4 or anything like that's going to have a dis case you imagine the next round of consoles and I don't think they're coming anytime soon but you got imagine they're still going to offer some sort of physical media drive you just I just can't see them or maybe they'll offer you know a version with the drive and a version without something like that I just can't see them just eliminating it you know in from one jump one generation to the next that said though I think when all is said and done the next generation of games you know when that generation is over with I think the vast majority of software will be consumed on a unload only basis see to me that seems like a loss for the video game players i mean i don't i don't gain myself but i do remember the nintendo era where you would have to actually have the cartridge remember and we get dirty and you have to so you're saying i miss that so you're saying ability you feel bad video game into the console it's important to the gaming about the insertion yes yeah I like that coming from a nun hi that's the one point you have to bring up that's when I'm bringing to the table you want to get up off the couch and walk over to the console and that's what you missed that's my exercise or is it worth it i like getting another appointment it would just be a one-man gesture cuz the tvs really pretty close oh my studio is tiny i'm sure i have to step over the toilet hahaha and my knees hit the wall when i'm sitting on the toilet I'm not sure and the Murphy bed only comes that and there's a window in front of the toilet and actually leaned on while i'm using the restroom i can actually look out the window at people so conveniences uh doesn't really matter York oh I really do think like the app store you know a lot of a lot of tech people's kind of think of it as Apple's way of controlling how people using their computers this doesn't preclude people from installing their own software but what I actually I really do think that it opens up more I guess I more users to downloading and buying software I've never I've never bought so much more software in my life that on my iPhone I understand that but it might open the door but at the same time I think it closes the door okay because this is just the the writing on the wall is very clear to me at least is that now all software on iOS platforms is going to have to go through this you know very strict but that's I OS like nobody wants their cell phone to crash just say I understand that but you know it sort of just takes away that open source pneus of it all well I I think that you can still install like the same kind of apps on Mac OS I think they did how long I think that's got to be honest I think that's going to be around for a while hi Julie believe that and I like i said i think that it opens up the door for a lot of people to download software that they never experienced before because who wants to go to like Walmart or you know best buy buy the DVD spend like the hour to to install it and then discover that you don't like it you tried in the app store or let's take a pan informal poll who is bought actual software physical software who's like gone to a store in the past year and bought and software two gentlemen three gentlemen this is CES and this is CES so that's I think I would say the same thing most of what I do on my computer besides editing in Final Cut right is through the browser sure everything I've been IM Inge you know all my time at work on facebook that kind of stuff right follow the web yeah you just winked at us don't do that at a time I want to start talking about you know today's the first official day I've got a live audience you guys are very we appreciate you coming out sitting down even if you're just tired we appreciate your tiredness uh what have you guys seen and feel free to shout out because we are live what have you guys seen so far that has really blown you away Reese's minis that's interesting that's candy can you plug that into a wall you could just eat it really okay okay that's cool anyone anyone else like in a product if some sure all that something you can plug in maybe no one has seen anything what what did you say did you say Campbell's wireless soup no just okay yeah you like what s our friends over here Denny you guys seen anything that's really blown you away would you see these are not straight to the food came right to the floorboard so Wilson what about you today you've had some time to walk around is there one thing that you said you know what I'm gonna go back and try and steal that uh there it was I'll be honest so far it's been the motorola xoom really i've been very i'm really impressed with the product I I think that it's the sort of like first Android anything that I would really consider buying that that sort of really differentiates itself from from the ipad recording this cuz this has never had hahahahahaha this is amazing so the zoom I I think that if if it works like the way the video portrays yeah I think that'll be a really interesting product right um wanting really cool thing that I thought about it was that they say that the communications part the 3g in the 4g is actually interchangeable really so you can take the zoom in to a verizon store all right and if you bought the 3g version you can they can switch it out and install LTE antenna or something like that and it'll still work so i really cuz i think that that's probably the biggest differentiator everything is going to live in the cloud so we're not i'm not so worried about whether to get like the 16 gig versus the 64 gig virgin anymore all my emails in the cloud all my work stuffs in the cloud don't really plan on editing video on a tablet anytime soon sure yeah oh god no but I'm doing on his iPhone floor though yeah right yeah but but I think that the the zoom is a is a very interesting product I really really like it I think that that's for me besides the Angry Birds board game I can't stop thinking about Justin you other than the inside of your hotel room what has been the most exciting thing here at CES well I am the printers and peripherals editor here at cnet please stop laughing jeff bagwell um so i was walking around today i saw the you know victorinox the guys that make the swiss army knives yeah they have a swiss army knife that has a built in solid state drive know that goes up to 128 gigabytes I'm not just talking about because I blogged about it on cnet but here it is look that's pretty cool is it comes in a bladed version and you can also get the airplane friendly once without a night okay I was gonna say like how much is it gonna hurt when you gets compensated at the urb right so you can buy the one without the knife that'll get you through the scanner just fine so I think that's pretty cool I'm storage has come a long way I never thought I'd see an SSD Drive an affordable SSD drive with an ian has flash we talking I don't know you don't know how did no pricing yet no but uh hopefully it won't be too expensive if you want to go and pick that up you can write but the story's really matter anymore yeah is there like pulling things off my friends hard drives when I'm ever out uh you know word files and JPEGs watch no media or anything like that anything no means no movie yeah yeah definitely nothing like now or snow music on your computer you can have internet man technologies haven't seen anything you've been on the show floor all day what I what did you think about I don't know if this is actually on the cs CES floor sure but the the virtual remote for a lot of these handheld tablets like the iphone ipad ones from fling right so wilson's talking about couple manufacturers have come out with their not virtual their physical joystick add-ons that you're sort of like you know you're just like suction a joystick onto your iPad what it's it's cool it's kind of interesting i blogged about it earlier there you go um wow it's it's check out this photo of what we're dealing with you're basically adding on you know like a multi-directional joystick but how does that interface with your ipad you know when you play like pac-man on and I there's a virtual you know thing in the corner we're not just pack me wherever it is and I guess you sort of have to Center the joystick right undoubtedly pretty cool it's it's a little ridiculous because it's like taking the most advanced product humanity's ever you know yeah hold on let's bring it back to 84 right Steve Jobs dream yeah well I'm sure he's pissed about it you know but there's two products of note there's one from thinkgeek and that is the silver joystick you see there and then a company I forget what I think they're called 110 design or something like that they've come up with another suction d pad a sort of device ten one design and i think it's a it's a smart idea I how long have your familiar with the way I feel about ipad gaming I'm in feven you want the buttons that's a service I want to I want to attach some sort of casing frame onto an ipad so I can have a directional been a couple buttons you know I gotta say it's it's the d-pad that's the biggest issue with you because I always feel like I'm about to crack the glass like truant you know right that's how I play your thumb many people play ipad games you guys play ipad games all right half the audience you know you're playing a game with the virtual joystick and all of a sudden your thumb is like Alan left field you're like how did it get over there that's crazy well that's the point we're trying to make okay and that as far as gaming is kind of what your age oh well I thought it was interesting anything else from the gaming world okay I'm gonna go back to the 3ds just because you know no one really expected Nintendo to be here you know the it's sort of leaked out like oh they might be here we don't know what they're going to have I would like I said I was lucky enough to play with it the the cool thing about it and I didn't really understand it till i play with it the 3ds the top screen is the 3d screen and it has an adjuster a slider on it and you can control I guess how nauseous you want to get yeah and you know you can either eliminate the 3d effect all together or you can intensify it to the point where you're really involved like up in your face right see that's the thing that's and that's a good thing you brought up the 3d it's more inside if the effect goes into the screen rather than popping out but nothing is like flying at you or anything right so which is why I keep bringing up the magic I analogy you know and but obviously there's no I crossing involved it just sort of happens naturally Tendo guys and we talked about the story yesterday about them warning against kids under six using the 3ds right did you ask him about that I judged on another and he wants a 3ds and I want to know if it's gonna damage his eyesight if I buy it I'm gonna make him go blind hopefully I don't know all the other devices that kids use I mean I mean look it's no secret kids are swapping in front of TV screens for five hours at a time anyway um look with all devices handheld game you know in moderation take a break there's a whole magic world outside where the Sun shines in the windows right so you know it's healthy to do that every every now and then okay and I think that's the real takeaway yeah it's good advice great advice from the 404 jogo ever thought I'd heard out and play some bass guitar what the computer down no just bring my 3ds outside no leave the three years yes but we're getting close to the in the show we should actually tease something to you we've got the next big thing coming up and I believe it's the north hall right sure what about some some apps we have some guys I'm seeing it you can you can check out all the latest CNN news seeing a TV seen it review apps absolutely the latest news coming from the convention if you're not here if you're here I know you can't get around everywhere you can't be everywhere share at the convention 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coverage of CES 2011 continues with the next big thing mollywood and brian cooley going to be talking about after the pc that's in the north hall right now with cnet com all throughout CES 2011 I'll see you guys tomorrow great show thanks for everyone coming out watching us live I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm Justin you everyone have an awesome Thursday we will see you tomorrow live right here either go on you