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hey what's going on everybody thank you for tuning in to the 404 show thank you for waiting the weekend to get back into 404 mode what happens if you were at a carnival yeah I uh I spent too much time on the carousel knew it and after that I went on to the spinning teacups yes tilt the world man she loved that thing yeah it's it's dynamite like even at not-doing this bid anymore i love the tilt awhirl you I can something about the tilt awhirl I can like make that ride better than its supposed the one where you get pressed up against the wall with the gyroscopic force yeah it's like the eggshells what the the little cart you're in looks like half an egg shell oh I'm thinking something else what's the one it's a big circle and usually rest up against the wall yeah that's like the tripped of like a deer fan no not that it's uh what the hell is it called it's centrifugal for ya and which is like that's in the carnival no we don't want that it also seems weird cuz you can't I guess you the top is open so you can see out the top to see like how weird it is that like the floor is not moving but you're moving I never doesn't seem safe the only time I was on one of those was by accident where I thought I was getting on a different ride where I got on that ride now this is happening there's like all this isn't gonna stop you have to endure these four minutes or whatever it is yeah nope I like that it's called the tilt awhirl it's uh it's this sort of like rotating thing where you sit in these half eggshell carts and there's like a very thin bar that comes down how is it with their riding in San lot and then when they pee you know that's like the scrambler okay you're just naming every carnival ride besides is it the ship that nope that's what hardship that's exactly what it is uh anyway people know what the tilt the washer and you can lean like that it's so each each have like intro suffer right its whipping around and your constant going in a circle and then there's another circle within your yes yes and if you are with the right people and you want to play the game you can lean and one side or the other two to sort of play in with the force of where the mind is going you can really have yourself a great time yeah anyway that is not why I was not on the fat for uh if you're just joining us it's Monday februari first yeah weather is 54 degrees outside outside this real febuary weather right now no I really appreciate everyone coming and joining us today so I wit I I my family and I went through a viral ordeal a harrowing and it wasn't not like on a YouTube or a vine situation I wish it were the original viral I would use that word with great pleasure yeah but no unfortunately myself my wife little man Dylan oh we all succumbed to what I'm just gonna label as the norovirus yeah which is that 24 to 36-hour stomach explosion that you have no choice but to just endure you are not going out that day you're not going out for a little bit yeah it's amazing how quickly it comes and goes i'll give it that or that's the only thing i'll tip my hat to everything else whoa yeah whoa I couldn't keep down water yeah I could not totally it's just you have no choice yeah and what's amazing to me is like how like I you know I'm not a doctor clearly I'll claim to be Wonder and I'm trying to try to research this on Wikipedia afterwards because I'm just like well that was terrible yeah let's get to the bottom of this science & Oates let's let's look at this under a microscope no doesn't work like that it's all it's just weird and it's in your body and it does what it needs to do and then your body's like I'll wait a minute hold on I things were going ok and now you're here and we're just evacuated yeah the Titanic this we need to get back to the basics right so so to be clear did you might have found this out in your research do you stop being sick when you've essentially literally pooped or puked out whatever it was that was making you sick I don't know if I don't know if like in the go mass exodus gets presumably that's why you're doing it it's like that's why you throw up when you drink too much food poison bite poison buyers in the polls getting rid of the poison so is that essentially know like the virus is like riding the wave I don't know others this amazing wave I don't know what it is all i know is that i got to the point and i was telling you about this before and i don't wanna get gross because it might be too late but it's more now it's more fun to be like oh this poor bastard yeah like there was one point where I done what I needed to do and I good it's like we all had it sure Stacy and I were like two hours apart and like she started getting it in a nice are again luckily he was already kind of done with it okay but we still had to take care of a baby here because we couldn't bring it back to daycare yeah so we're like trading off taking care of a baby and doing this and at one point I it hit me way harder it don't I'm not taking anything away from my wife forgot to mention wimmer just stronger and better they are they two genders but she's such a better person and you know I was just like I could not physically get out of that I could not like if the if the apartment was on fire yeah i was probably burning along with you but you had to get out of bed to know but like after one point I just like I your empty is empty I done and that's it yeah cuz you had no energy I go I there was a one point I'd never been this close to passing out I think where I felt the sweat come permeate through my face instantly touch my face and was like like I just taken a shower I looked at myself in the mirror saw the color green yeah like not even like tinted like oh he's gone green yeah I'm in the matrix yeah and just collapse to the floor to the to the tile hard bathroom floor you didn't pass out I did but I collapsed I but it was a like a safety collapse like you put your hands down yeah like I didn't like but then you're right now I'm here and Stacy threw me a pillow and I and I laid there for 30 minutes yeah until I could like crawl back into bed it was it's a very harrowing it's amazing that this is what happens to our bodies yeah I hadn't been the sicán almost a decade yeah it's terrifying I Alex my fiance passed out this was like a year ago but was that sick like was walking through the apartment I'm like looking like a little woozy and I'm like should I like Jeanne a hand and she's like and then legit that's Mary and I like half Carter but half didn't and like she knocked her head and then I'm just looking at her in the eyes and her eyes are like glassy like I'm like oh she's dead by so what what happened I mean she had this that it was so dehydrated brat she couldn't do anything so essentially i like carefully laid her on the ground pillow blanket like whatever and you like slept there in the middle of the living room all night Wow and then was better but like it's it's not a fun thing that's like it's almost like no we we shouldn't have that so is there anything you could have done when you brought down home but could you have taken like know he had this right he we had to bring him home from day care because he just had like a bunch of diarrhea like gays get outta here right he's pooping way more regular than he's supposed to that and it's not know what you want right get him so got him but then we caught it is that all you doing print like in prison if you have a ton of diarrhea what's the what's the play there you just I guess you have the toilet in the in your cell ya know oh no that's not something I want our listeners to have to think about right now there's got to be a process any videos listening yeah that's what happens any wardens in the house shooter some shoot us a call we'll yeah yeah so I missed obviously 44 and miss b's kissed i missed plans and things I had to do it was I was done bad I didn't even get out of bed for real to like Friday night Saturday morning yeah and I had we have we somehow made it out of it we got out of the lift the wood fire so I'm back I'm feeling great we're back I'm glad it's februari let's turn the page on life on health and we're back in it and feeling good finally so let's talk about a few things that have been developing on the internet most uh thing we're gonna grab most recently kind of developed over the weekend yeah I'm calling this a fine mess ah that's funny so are you aware of who the fine brothers I am indeed aware i would say that i was half aware of them before because i've seen their videos they're known i'm sure a lot of people listening know but they're known for the like 90 or whatever kids react to 80s video games and it's a youtube video of like a bunch of kids playing like super mario brothers and being like I can't believe they played this stupid right is cool or like make a bunch 11 year olds play contra knowledge came so hard exactly what the hell so there's like and those videos do astronomically well I think I don't I don't have the numbers in front of me I do know at one point they had 13 million YouTube subscribers that has since dipped yeah because I'm not dramatic not dramatically but sure noticeably yeah um about the skin that we're about to present so this is this is weird this is a weird sort of situation um I don't know these guys personally or I don't know what the deal is with like why they did this I have some speculation but let's lay it out first and then pull alright so basically the sort of videos they do which Russ just described briefly is they do these things called react videos right so they like we said they have different demographics react to certain generational my video games writer all people talk about how racist they are etc exactly so they kind of had this announcement over the weekend where they said hey we're like enterprising this brand yeah and they're saying Oh react the react series that we've done and created well we're sort of like enterprising that and we're making that a trademark right and we're copywriting that and we're letting people the house couch was not a copyright even though they do say that it is essentially couched like we're giving you the tools to make your own react videos you and like will promote them and probably whatever they were basically saying like wheel we're dunkin donuts and we've just wouldn't you like what you like the franchise out our donuts and coffee yeah you know kind right yeah it's sort of like that and I think a lot of the fallout from this situation is is base is kind of based around confusion because people don't really understand the legalities of arts happening so so right so they said hey we're gonna we're gonna license out our react brand or mattia format and they copyrighted the term react with regards to youtube videos right so arguably their copyright would cover any reaction video of any YouTube video is those the take away is the takeaway that's the you know whether that was their intention or not it might have been it might not have been that is the potential end result of this copyright so someone some lawyers at some point got a hold of these guys cuz I'm not gonna go ahead and say that they came up with this idea themselves right somebody put it in their heads suggested it incepted it whatever you want to try because this just doesn't sound like the mantra the mo of a YouTube celebrity well this is my guess yes okay this is speculative speculation but my speculation for how this happened was okay so they have the successful brand and they do these franchises videos kill and they do it may amazingly well tens of millions of views etc right now all they have in terms of a long-term asset is their subscriber count this is a valuable asset they've got 14 million subscribers it's very valuable but that's all they have their fear my guess is that they fear basically anyone whether it's a tiny youtuber or whether it's CBS or whoever it is coming out and essentially doing the exact same thing they're doing and eating their lunch without any repercussions that would be my guess for why this was instigated in the first place okay so let's let's let's let's sort of pause on that and simmer with that a little bit so you're implying that their videos that they they do have a very certain specific look to them share certain feel to them yes and they've been able to cultivate an audience specifically surrounding that format yeah you your I know are you sort of like unpacking it as I'm describing like well maybe well no no so the important thing to remember is like despite what they might say their audience is not because they love the fine brothers know or they love the graphics or they love the title car whatever it is it's just like a good hook it's like a good idea for a very broadly appealing vide and they've been able to get enough of these people have seen these videos to click that subscribe button because they want this sort of reliable right uh you know episodic if you will content delivered where it's like oh these videos aren't the worst I'll watch them when they come out exactly so the so the difference is what what they're concerned about is essentially that format being I mean I guess Kyle essentially copied by other people without the logical next step of of course this format existed long before they came around of course it moves us long after so it's this very broad copyright that covers any react videos on YouTube that people are taking issue with and kind of freaking out about rightfully so and it didn't help that the video that they released initially was like them too who are very uncharismatic guys that just like are like hey so we're doing this and we think it's gonna be great was very infomercial it was very infomercial II and stiff and they just weren't it make it makes me curious why they would even promote it in the first place if their end result was just to cover their butts right that might be a copyright thing where they have to like promote disclose it or disclose it yep I don't know if anything and we're in the kotaku article that were sort of siphoning off talking about the story says well why didn't they just keep quiet about this thing it could have gone uncontested for right however you know 30 days they would and you would have seen people get takedown noses but it's like one or two people at you know spread out and maybe people would draw it back to oh wow let's look into this copyright that they got they just weave themselves they just wanted to make it a thing they wanted to make it an event like how do we paint this relatively negative as awesome as this great thing that's going to help everyone else and people saw through the and it totally backfired are they look they have 30 million subscribers they took a little bit of a hit they didn't really because the majority of people watching these videos i don't care editors or whatever well they might be but it's mostly Facebook people oh grannie sees this video of like kids looking at cute cats right who's there that's their audience sure and as of this recording um they they've come out with an update video where they're just like the two saddest looking down update video thumbnail it they look like droopy dog yak or your it's just like they it's like guess why are they were in the same outfits did they change I don't know but it just looks like they're about to tell you your puppy down right like it's the saddest terminal you got six months yeah it's just like the saddest two dudes ever and they basically go on about the they could never have foreseen the negative backfiring that took place after we announced the react thing and people just like and now it there's almost like these guys are the worst thing on YouTube young people they look they still have their millions of subscribers they're going to be fine yeah but they're they're sort of PR right now they're buzz that it's it's bad yeah it's bad they're in a bad place right if I was them i would go quiet and dark for like a month and then just return to normal exactly what you were doing before cuz no one's gonna remember or care yeah like they got to stop taking whoever the advice giver is who has been like ya franchise out this reactant right make this apology video yeah do all that well and part of this and i don't know where their funding is or whether they have VCS or whatever but part of this might come down to like if they're going to a funding round and trying to raise money venture capitals are like hey so what's your long-term plan here we are going to turn this from I mean the cliche is 1 X 2 10 X 2 100 x of what you're making now so that might be the reason I mean it's it's a it's a money-making idea and I mean the really funny stuff is like they got their audience to like go against Ellen did you see that yeah so Ellen essentially made I kids reacting to I forget what it was toys or something well I'll toy were the circumstances of that Ellen did a video that was like kids reacting her old whatever old toys from the 80s yeah and she was just sitting around with these kids and showing them whatever old stuff and they posted on their Facebook like you know if you love the fine brothers you need to come out against Ellen and people like Ellen who are taking our ideas of reaction videos to showing people things like it's crap and even on the surface if you sort of slice out the legalities for a second and try and take it for its face value where you say hey we're gonna copyright this idea that just I mean anybody can understand how that's ridiculous sure but it's tough I mean it is tough there's a design and like right you know we look at like like video games for example what is a clone versus what's the riddle original idea and George do you need to change right for it's a clone same with music and music and and really all forms of media and so it's not I cut and dry they're evil but they definitely overreached and got caught they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar and now they're you know they've cookie all for their hands oh I have cookie cookie all over their hands um all right well that's that's that yeah I think we could put that one to bed curious if you got an opinion on it let us know hook it up all rights is from my virus to the Zika virus yeah I don't I mean I'm not again a dot you're not a lawyer I'm not a doctor right how do you what is you so therefore were expert I'm a little bit I don't know I guess I should just gonna talk about how we don't know any we don't understand that's really the game world health organization today declared it a worldwide so it's it's it's not good news and I believe this is only one of five in of recent while yeah so it's joining the ranks of h1n1 uh bola you just get nosy and obviously there's been a lot and says instances were like stuff like Ebola obviously did not go worldwide you know there were a few cases in the US but it didn't become this pandemic and we've seen a few of them what the bird paw was it bird flu swine flu wine flu h1n1 yeah as you said and my fear is and maybe this variable from the tonight okay class in undergrad about how diseases spread and why would you do that Adam why would you do that it seemed like I was that a course it seemed like I mean I was a called it was like airborne sickness 10 whining about pandemics or whatever it seemed interesting yeah they just show you outbreak well no well the yes that was like two days look quite as clearly the professor playing that one out but they also showed us winged migration do you know what that is like birds well it's a movie it's a documentary winged migrant wing it migration whatever its cause is just like okay what is it and it's essentially showing birds and how far they travel and stuff like that with the idea of being hell did how bad it would be if one of these things took off among like the bird population cuz birds just go everywhere and long way of saying I got it like one of these things is gonna take we're kind of do like there were some pretty deadly flus that hit in the early 1900s and we have not had one of those in like a hundred we're due for one of these like shake off and I'm I don't know if as easy kaoru sica isn't deadly right I mean it's really bad like you the effect on children is like devastating alright but like if you got it tomorrow what would happen to you I don't know I did I even looked at em if you got sad if you got it then got pregnant right so that's the problem is like well but that's a problem yes especially its lying cuz you can get it right no you haven't then get pregnant right but you'd rather have Zika than Ebola yeah probably I'm not trying to say we're not trying to pick your poison this could be the thing that they were talking about in children of men this could be the may be the cause maybe that's all I can have babies anymore um so I think you're a little paranoid with the whole migration thing and what's like saying we're do and it's spread through mosquito bites course it is they're everywhere that's the rice and it spread through Kleenex you know it's like oh my like water well it spread through it spread through raindrops oh okay that's a problem gee talk about like a bubonic plague we'll get there was no modern medicine yeah like I'm not saying we're gonna have this taken care of in seven months but our understanding of like how viruses spread yeah is way better than it was during these plagues let's also not forget that like influenza kills like 80,000 surely here sure and that's a thing and that's bad yeah like people die from that the thing I had kills people every year so it's that that is mostly old people mostly old people and really young people but like there is there like nature is sort of balancing itself out with that stuff yeah um but we talked about like I bet I should mention like if you do get it like they're saying this is from the CDC symptoms are mild it's like conjunctivitis red eyes joint pain rash fever like generic like you have the flu essentially but it's very rare that anyone needs to be hospitalized but as you said like the effects on children are pretty devastating with like they have like smaller heads oh it's pretty that's pretty awful pretty awful oh I'm not trying to sugarcoat this yeah terrible thing and you know we obviously the world World Health Organization declaring it an emergency in the way it did yeah it's a big freaking deal sure ah but you make you freaked me out when you talk about your like weird do I know I mean we are but yeah this it's a super storm I so i right I have a doctor my my primary care doctor sure it's very good man very smart man he has this attitude that you have but towards bacteria like super like I where there are 0 and and that is there an en tant about staff yeah we're like and it's all our fault yeah yeah because we were too aggressive no he claims it has to do with people not finishing prescription yeah he says the fact that we like you you don't take all 30 pills I take 19 and you feel better and I'll need this anymore feel better right so care training dude is he getting stronger right yeah and he says that my friend yeah he said something I don't want to sound like a it's I'm gonna sound stupid here he said something that really got me scared and I deliberately repressed it so I didn't have to think about it anymore but now i'm going to try and react and resurface that thought bear with me for a second is painful um he said something like MRSA is is only responsive to like a third of the antibiotic it used to be yeah the originally was right which is like really scary yeah because they're just gonna sign out him home then what did Stacy had that oh yeah she had that for a little bit it's crazy yeah it's crazy that's why when you go to the hospital they want you in and out exactly as quick as poss as long as you're there the more likely it is that you're gonna get sick from being in the hospital and if you had surgery or any kind of open wound situation you are begging for it that's why I think home birth is the way to go maybe I don't know all right we're not gonna be there you know we're not gonna scare you anymore instead we're gonna scare you with a break no this is uh we're gonna take a quick little break when we come back more 404 on this Monday februari first what do you think groundhog it's gonna see a shadow oh thanks poxa tony r us dude the canadian ground on yeah he died what do you mean the canadian grand there's a there's a groundhog and can like Punxsutawney Phil yeah yeah but punxsutawney phil died they've had like six mil no but the guy they had lined up for this year just died like three days ago so they need like a backup yeah alternate alternate is in Halifax right I'm off he's gonna get to the main Canadian groundhog testing location big time they got throw that groundhog in a FedEx box oh no Royal Air Canadian man there you go that'll do it ship them on over yeah over 40 for right after this hey Russ hey Jeff how are you I'm lovely it's tough to read all the things you want to read right I never have enough time a lot of articles on the internet just never have enough time I just feel like I'm always constantly grasping at straws I'm sure I'm spinning all these plates and I'm trying how many now just gonna jump in here I'm gonna let's see what else I got nothing else comes to mind but the point is it's tough to read all the junk you want to read sure right definitely true but you know what I got a lot of time what doing commuting and listening and listen your ears are totally free up ears are free my eyes not so much but my ears are free that's why I'm checking out colony FM this is very cool as a new sponsor for 404 colony dot FM that's the website is a service that uses carefully trained voice actors I'm adding in that 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FM / seen it go there right now and get service completely free all right it's available on the web on the App Store and in the google play store as well colonie dot f m / Cena welcome back to the 404 show oh man oh man it's a sunny day so of course he would see a shadow right isn't that good that he sees a show no no the shadow is completely dictated by the Farmers Almanac what oh what I don't even know what that means do you mean I know what the Farmers Almanac is but like yeah they don't they don't like literally see if there's a shadow I don't think they do he seek he comes out of his hole he sees the shadow he doesn't see the shadow you have a more weeks of winter so you talking are you talking about literally the Bill Murray movie I mean that's because that's what happened that's amazing I understand but that's based on the mythos of the groundhog I believe yeah the little ceremony they had they they they say he does he sees it or he doesn't see it right based on the extended forecast for like what they believe the rest of the so they launder to play out they lie yet because the groundhog he doesn't understand what a shadow is at all I know I'm aware of that yeah so he's not reporting back to like write the users but you could watch a groundhog and be like oh there's a shadow their course right surely everything has a shadow Russ so is the idea that maybe the shadows behind him and he doesn't see it or they doesn't have a shot you're implying that like it's contextual no specific location they have the ground exactly where's like oh there's no way he's gonna see that shadow and what happens if he's like in in shade or a heavy like a heavy tree fall yeah no you're totally right you bring up valid point exactly what a whole lot of like issue it's such a weird thing yes what a weird day it's weird like what are we going to cancel these are these gonna be around forever yes you think Columbus Day needs to be around anymore but that's very different it is Thursday but it's equally as irrelevant like yes I think no no I take it back columbus day actually represents something that is so awful yes that agreed yeah so where is that right girl really represented no one knows what flag day is right now knows that is right do you know what it is now I thought was like a patriotic is it like an armistice day thing was that ARMA stay was when they signed the peace treaty I think at the end of World War two and why is their presidents day for like two guys oh cuz they used to have said I'm did you know that they used to have separate national holidays for I guess it's Lincoln and Washington right and they turn them into one holiday that's ridiculous yeah I mean that's why so like we just honor those two guys think the issue was they wanted to make sure that they gave people a day off but didn't want people go crazy over because they're like one week apart from one another don't you think it's absurd that like on every calendar you've ever owned like februari second it just says groundhog day and you're like what the Flies is that in here in fact what is that about yeah people like it people I think it's a charming was it serve row back because I think it's a charming throwback with good imagery and there's a cute groundhog and it's like something to talk about around the water cooler oh the groundhog saw his shadow six more weeks away only thing that it is like sort of given us is the movie which is fantastic it is a great so I guess in the end grand hog day officially worth it I I think so i think there's just no downside Groundhog Day existing it's the thing alright fair enough well we're at an impasse on that one okay so we get into the get into the studio here this afternoon and Russ's Ross's head is in his hands and I'm just like bro what what's wrong dude and you said verbatim I go let's roleplay a little bit clearer i go back here I don't yeah put your hit put your head I don't remember what I said verbatim now put your head in your hand okay right uh what's Russ what's wrong I don't remember what I said we're inside you go he's like rubbing his brows he's like I don't understand what my computer is doing right I don't understand what it does I don't good I mean I I don't like it is massively depressing and frustrating I know what how computers work for the most part I like know how to install drivers update stuff get things working I know how to do these things like I want you to channel that frustration that you must experience at home ah it's like it's really such a gut punch when like I gotta i'll give you the timeline of how this all played out because so we're talking about pccc german windows 10 right windows 10 and for the record i love i use in love Windows 10 that's great I'm go ahead yeah and I have no problem with windows 10 when it works it's fine I have no problems with it I mean all I'm doing is gaming on it like I'm not doing anything else understand why it's deserving you like okay so here's what happened to murder came out on pc like always it beautiful and beautiful works great awesome i haven't actually played it my fiancé alex is a huge tomb raider fan she loves tomb raider the second it came out she liked it was like 930 at night i'm like oh by the way to murder came out on pc she's like what and made me instantly install it like install it within five seconds of that right so she's very excited she gets her headphones on like darkens the lights in the office and like sits cross-legged in my desk chair playing tomb raider like she's just like she have like a perch it just sits cross-legged in a chair which is odd for me but like some people assume they call it the perch okay I had a roommate in college and said I gotta get in the perch and that's what that is and like his head is like ass on the thing and like both of his knees right up to his chin oh no he doesn't she doesn't do that oh she likes its cross and he would play counter frankly but I can't fit in my chair like that yeah cuz you're a normal human right she's much more yeah so so she's very excited she's loving it days are going by two days ago I hear from the other room Russ can you come in here please and I'm thinking something really bad has happened like I come in some and she's like it's not working so i double-click whatever I open steam and I try to launch tomb raider and nothing happens it like goes whoop my god what loading yeah not even a loading screen but like steam is like loading it up and then there's like a bleep and then nothing zero and I'm like there's no error message there's no nothing okay nothing changed over the course of those 12 hours I didn't install anything she didn't sell anything she was playing the game and you did you reboot I mean there was a reboot sure okay the argument I know so is the computer guy in music okay but yet yes so we rebooted multiple times she actually rebooted before I got the room so sir okay she knows their stuff so it's not booting at all i'm like i got fixed this so I'm like searching online Tomb Raider not booting all it's bringing me too by the way I'm searching using whatever is installed on that Windows PC I haven't installed anything else so it's like I should have installed chrome but I didn't so I'm using edge just bring me to the Bing search engine which is don't want heinous is like like what the top search results on bing are exclusively spyware sites exclusively like it's not like on Google word sometime it's like an ad safon surd like the very top link is like fix your pc now dot info how do you think Bing is stay in business maybe that must be it so I'm using that and whatever I'm like searching tomb raider won't boot but nothing's coming up i dive into the steam files i double-click on the icon in like where tomb raider is living and it's like you are missing msvc 11 10 DOL I'm like things just don't change would date you literally nothing will change the game we turned it off we turned it on suddenly not okay what the next step you got to check the file and so I see I did that I checked I actually did that before I searched that so I searched the file integrity of Tomb Raider is great fine so I'm like okay so I have a file name that I know I'm missing so I'm gonna start searching I apparently has something to do with c++ windows visual something or other Sabet you went down a bad path but this is the path to defending them because this is the file that it needs so people are sent okay I found a few posts from previous where like people are saying oh yeah that issue to download this driver and there's a link to a microsoft support page where it's like drivers here great i click on the one with a microsoft support page it's a 404 like it's a dead link oh my god God annoying i go back i click on the same link the link works i click on that sounds about right i click on a download driver link for for go back work click on the same thing 404 go back click on the same thing it works now yet does what is I can't even fathom what's going on with that site that's called a spotty internet it's just it's not spotty internet that's their site must be broken it is this weird because it's like half of the time that says are these files don't exist but everyone listening has experienced something like that that is so bizarre to me so anyway I I find the file I mean he's going down long visual files from like the last 10 years to make sure I am every library poppin sick don't know what these a soon no idea what rise will c plus pleasure oh no he knows what is that the tomb raider is saying i need these files i'm gonna get the end and not only does it need it it all of a sudden white it it didn't eat at 12 hours ago when the game was running before yeah we didn't need it now that you've made it this far in the game I need that I have no idea what so finally I get all these things installed it doesn't or it does boot oh wow but it's thinks that I'm playing it in stereoscopic 3d oh wait a minute I had that problem okay we're like it was double yes double right I don't know I fixed it somehow I fixed it how did or another hour I went into nvidia settings and for some reason in a video had it was like oh you're Jason 3d even though I never checked and like what happened in those 12 hours where it was checked that's weird there's something weird with that I read about that that the the game was entering 3d mode by itself what so I'm with you man I finally got our end my god and now give me the spiel right you're gonna be like oh well this never happens on max well first of all max don't play games really so true John to deal with that right I mean the games that i put here's what i must say the games that I play on Mac I do not run on the accessories granted they're not 3d graphic crazy game they're running on my macbook air so it's like FTL and binding of isaac and very basic games but they run fine you know whatever a chrome always boots fine i never get these pop-up messages I never get forced um updates like when i turn my Mac off and turn it back on again I'll know if it's gonna take a half hour to reinstall these files right because it asked me yeah it doesn't just do it and that's what drives me so insane so but it's gotten better it's not sure I agree with a matter of degrees I agree with you it there's still some inexplicably frustrating wonkiness and it's so ironic because it's like design it should be designed for the mass market given that they have that mass pike there so why is that what I mean someone smarter than us should be able to answer this where it's like why is this still a thing right windows why is there this legacy like patchwork you know MacGyver sort of band-aid DIY thing that happens with Windows we're like we're at Windows 10 you ask Pete it's arguably the best windows they've ever made yeah and you still have to face these wonky ridiculous nonsensical trials of right like why is that still a thing and nothing changed my guy again like well presumably something's changing my guess is that over when I turned it off and turn it on again something installed that I didn't know was installing and that's what screwed up because obviously something changed between those three think it's like a transparency issue I think it's a transparent oh yeah I do I think they're making updates and not telling you oh they so Windows now is totally not interested in asking you about updates right it's like no you need this right we dis could be pie did this could be vulnerable we could be sued you're you agree to this when you installed me I'm not taking no for an answer you shut up you sit down and like a sandwich and i'm updating i guess it's like a litigious thing where they're just covering their asses if that's what it is but you know that and that's the thing is like you see so on my iPhone when new updates come out I don't install them were like instantly of course cuz you gotta way for them to get fixed right so you wait right and that's fine like I get it people making software are not perfect human being course not bugs exist they're big diamond yep so you wait and you see what people say the early adopters say it's broken or they say it's great and that you go off of that but having that choice to wait versus being forced to install stuff is a big big difference I'm with you man and it drives me I'm with you man it's tough what are we gonna do man this the world we live in it's already 2016 you think Windows 10 would freaking just work by now yeah it doesn't it just for gaming purposes like this for gaming it's rough there's got to be a way to have I mean that's the problem because the hardware so different but I just like unify it where it's like it always runs on ps4 every once in a while this crashes if a game is poorly made but it boots it does but that's because every single that's like every single person in the world owning my exact same computer it's running the same way motion do that doesn't work like that it can never work like why because it's not a it's a it's a it's a dynamic platform I know it bums me you believe me now that you've been playing pc games for like a year right yeah don't you feel like oh man there are way better experiences graphically and performance wise on PC I knew that before i got a new that but it's like but but the question is you regret it don't know i don't regret it but the question is is it balanced out by the convenience i have of like if i have an hour to play a game do I want to spend half an hour installing updates and it's not a half hour work this took two hours this is an anomaly though I'm compact compared to like the normal you know gameplay experience you have I just wish it would tell me I'm with you man I I share the frustration I've been there it is your personal puter norovirus yeah it is yeah right yep and it could happen tomorrow like today I booted it up and just hung on the like boot screen for like a half hour and I had to start it it's a weird thing man it's a computer why would it make a difference if you restart it and started again why because it just clears out cash and clears out all that junk it's weird as like bunch of like as much as computers are zeros and ones and all that stuff they still kind of operate on the same philosophies like a car right where it's like you know what maybe you let that car seat for me yeah where it's like okay yeah or like it more like the human body where it's like maybe you don't drink coffee the next day yeah and if it for whatever reason they share the same sort of uh traits is like organic organisms yeah I don't want to get off on a rant here no but let's pivot into a rant okay so while I was down and out over the weekend I watched an episode of Bill Maher okay regardless though weekly yeah mostly every Friday here I taped them yeah and I don't watch them unless I like the panel them a TV are they saying that saying you know just use like HBO go though no okay I just because I just haven't use it that's fine I've got the files box that lets me record like 12 channels at once yeah i don't know why i have it i just do yeah so they're you know they're sure and you know what well I don't HBO GO there's no commercials writing like that but like if if you like we love the Goldbergs okay we watch the Goldbergs occasionally then we refer and uh if we ever for some reason forget to DVR it or it doesn't DVR yeah i know it's set to something it doesn't or like it there's a football game that screws it up uh we have to go watch it on demand through files is on brain but then it enters you in this like awful world where yeah you can't that's forward right the chair you know it's the mercy of a nice article or social i pay for cable and the fact that i have to use torrent sites have a better experience is depressing yeah like yeah that's shitty I pay for these shows that I'm yeah stealing from the internet yeah because time warner or whatever it is is delivering them to me in a really bad way you know Russ I never steal anything but I know um I almost I was thinking about stealing the x-files right because the same thing with the x-files yeah because the x-files got preempted by the end of the AFC Champions off the clock it was off the clock I was smart and downloaded two shows after or whatever DVR two shows after it because I renew his football yeah quote unquote smart yeah no that's no is so I don't know it's just spin it's bad we're in a very weird time don't worry they're losing customers hand over fist they are uh so so he was Bill Maher was talking about basically and I'm definitely you know sort of paraphrasing here but his if closing monologue was basically about the internet okay and it's sort of social ramifications on the human race here when it comes to rhetoric and pretty much when it comes to the truth okay and what's not the truth and he was making the argument that the unit it's kind of like the greatest thing ever but it's also the worst thing that's ever happened to us sure and because there's an Internet people can lie yes and it doesn't matter what the truth is because the Internet has convinced an entire generation of people that was that whatever is on it is somehow official and it could not be more perfectly exemplified than the way it is on sites like Facebook and Twitter wear anything that your stupid asshole friend from high school posts online you know it's just become doctrine sure where it's like oh the Josh put that up on Facebook right facebook has its Facebook needs to really kind of take responsibility for this I think a little bit um I know that's like pointing the finger at Napster yeah right but it's like no here's my here's my thing okay and let's use Facebook as a specific example sure so you put a story on facebook yeah and it's from some dickhead website with no credibility whatsoever okay this plays into the whole argument we're like we've just lost the concept of credibility we've like nobody they got so I you know we were journalists right like we have a lot of background like back check again like checking your sources in double and triple and quadruple check again making sure whatever it is that you're that's fit to print is freaking right answer yes right yeah and there's like not that that methodology that mentality is not even a concept to anybody sure to a lot of people you're right where it's like no it's not if this gets published like I didn't think we'd have to take that many steps back and explain the whole thing over yet to people again oh I understand I know I'm I i I've got finished with one kind of diarrhea and now I have verbal diet right I'm just trying to get out so many points at once but you're understand I understand there's no vetting process for what people post online and the fact that you can link to a story from the from National Geographic right and then Bob's dick farm knockout or and those two links on facebook look look exactly the same yes Facebook actually does for what it's worth according to them they do wait certain sites differently so in there trending stuff well not only in trending in whether it appears in your feet and how high it appears ok I didn't know that because you're not seeing every single thing in your feet no but you're seeing are ya you're not but I'm you're saying and I are seeing a lot of yeah you see a lot of so but what they do is an its relatively recent but they essentially for sites that like our page journey like click Beatty sites according to them they down rank those sites you know who's got a curb that oh freakin Twitter yeah Twitter's told they don't do anything I mean they Twitter you see yourself the rails well Twitter you see everything like there's no filter on Twitter's off the rails dude it I think the larger problem and this is all legitimate an issue but it's not a new issue like for that whatever hundreds of years the concern that like some Yahoo who doesn't only talking about is spouting some idiotic whatever on the street corner this is just a bigger street corner right right it's the pits the idea that the crazy lunatic right who would have just you know yelled at his fireplace yeah for all of eternity yeah now has the same sort of pole as any reputable well I would say I don't think that's true oh yes and I'm definitely exaggerating that but but but my point is like well net but but there's a voice there like he has that voice now and I think the larger problem with that is not so much that he has a voice but the voices that you're hearing on a day to day basis are almost exclusively similar to your voices so the people that you follow for the most part the people that you follow or the people that are whatever on facebook what have you tend to have the same vaguely similar ideas as you do because they're your friends or their people you know or whatever so there's increasing divided between ID idea a and idea be best exemplified by politics but really applying to everything which is to say you're not seeing multiple sides of the story you're pretty much only say once I the story sure and that's only like one angle of it and that's what yeah and there's many angles another angle is like people you're talking about Rep you Billy whatever it is people look to Wikipedia to a certain extent as like somewhat of a source for information but there's this disaster scenario that plays out I'm sure very regularly which is someone whatever joking around or someone writes an article um okay and on an element on a Wikipedia article has been changed so let's say someone uh in a Wikipedia as a joke says Hillary Clinton is 80 years old for argument haha hilarious someone writes an article but doesn't source wikipedia just writes the article saying Hillary Clinton is 80 years old Baba and someone goes back to that Wikipedia article and you because they used it and the person writing the Oracle use that Wikipedia article too inform themselves but didn't cite it okay someone goes back to the original wikipedia article and puts a footnote on the Hillary Clinton is 80 years old directing to the article as proof that this is in fact true so there's this weird secure a circular cyclical cyclical Ouroboros thing happening snake eating its own tail where people are citing things and those citing things are citing those people and constantly going on so it's like this self yeah uh you know sort of feeding disaster yeah yeah I mean this is all to say like yes it's all concerned all I can say in and to answer that is you sort of just need to know for yourself what a reputable sources and that might change from day to day you might think one day NBC News is a reputable source and the next day you know that it might turn that the anchor was just like not on the helicopter that was blown up two feet away from him yeah so like you just need to know the people that you trust and go with those people but constantly be aware that these people might be up to something and that it's so tough it's it's hard I don't think it really tell no I don't think it's an end I don't think it's a new problem but it's hard a more pervasive yes it's definitely harder today at you know I'm not gonna like glorify the old days because I'm believe I'm happier now yeah I'm not gonna like you know romanticize when I was eight yeah you know because for the most part I've lived with the internet my entire life I mean I wasn't online until I was maybe 11 or 12 but I feel like that's when you probably should be let loose on the Internet yeah I think it's just much easier to get a fuller picture because you and it's your responsibility to do that like if you feel like you're not getting the whole story on whatever it is it's your responsibility to not only go to one source but to go to three or four like I go to websites that I politically despise so do I and be like what what is going right exactly and I find it interesting but it's also important that you know the full picture because then you can sound like a smart person at dinner parties it's just hate give them those pages though whatever your one page view is worth about know but there's people like us who do that in the number of people that are doing that is very small I don't think it's keeping them yeah it's really tough arm I I I struggle with it I do I you know it's tough to be optimistic about things when you when you really you know I don't say we're like in it deep because the stuff we cover isn't really changing the world from a sense but truth matters liners details matter right um it's important you know is oculus rift 500 hours or is it 200 hours right and what is your source for that absolutely in that kind of stuff and it's it's just good practice I'd but it but it does drive me absolutely up the wall yeah and it's mostly you know the reason why I've slowly but surely kind of weeded Facebook out of my daily browser I really a teen I go to Facebook but not like I don't really look at the feed yeah you've really got to learn to just sort of like put blinders on and even with Twitter which I do frequent multiple times a day is something you gotta yeah you really got a better can be a minefield can be um alright well let's play it safe and call it quits right here be for the best isn't that for the Bears a heavy heavy episode I loved it though man with her key style episodes it man groundhog day making it happen alright you gotta listen to this on repeat on Tuesday fit very a second foreground like that yep over and ovarian portent that's going to do it for us 866 404 seen it follow us on twitter at the 404 on facebook and then get into the sub reddit reddit com / r / 240 for thank you so very much everyone involved net thank you for being here and bearing with us while I was a little bit under the weather we're gonna do another show on Friday right yep and laughter wait you can see 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