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Oh it's Wednesday march seven 2012 404 time on this very special ipad HD three super supreme ipad apple day in new york i'm jeff bakalar and i'm justin you this is the show where the ipad HD hardly different in course we don't know that yet because the event is about an hour away and you know that it's gonna be called the HD though and not the ipad 3 that's what everyone's saying by our own company seen it oh so we said that yeah okay well we are assuming that it's gonna be hardly different but I'm afraid by this time tomorrow we might be shooting ourselves in the foot well it is the possibility that it's not even a tablet right and it's just like a box they wouldn't do to very small incremental upgrades in a row right like the ipad 2 wasn't that much i think the idea to was sort of a bigger that was a huge jump well i think the processing power thing was a big deal right but anyway let's not even you know do well on the ipad 2 it's all about the ipad HD yeah and that's today um I don't know I've become very jaded with this whole thing you just became J no I it's happened already I've become very desensitized to the whole thing I have a natural sort of resistance to hype okay that sort of thing makes me upset the more something is hype the more I hate it okay yeah where I wanted to fail you hate the height and just crash and burn so you know I mean let's say nothing about the ipad 3 rumors that are getting you kind of excited i was reading about them this morning and you know the press conference is about to happen in hours we're gonna find out really soon but what got me really excited was the prospect of haptic feedback coming to the scripts not happening that might have no way that's happening so haptic feedback is when they send electrical pulses through the screen so that you can feel a tactile response rested why would they do that that's kind of cool they don't even have that on the iphone well I think it'd be cool you know if you were you couldn't necessarily look at the screen the entire time so jay-z and of like when you tap something it shakes is first right exactly i mean a lot of the android phone well and I think that's like something that could make iPad gaming a little bit more fun gaming yeah really you think that's what putting the ipad uh ready into the you know in competing with like real gaming machine I mean it would it make me play video get one make me go cool this book is now vibrate great I want to use it speaking of which I wanted to talk to you about this because you mentioned it yesterday and this is d being a little bit from the ipad 3 conversation but you mentioned you bought in amazon kindle it did first of all had no idea that you could even read so that the other thing is that i read this article on gizmodo the other day that's saying that same reading books on tablets is really dumb because when you're in that immersive reading experience you don't want something like little notifications popping up on the right hand side of the screen course not like i am windows blinking at you the thing is telling you that like all these different email notifications and whatnot right did you find that reading on a kindle was a really relaxing thing one hundred percent yeah there's something about holding a kindle because it's such a simple device right and it's just bare bones and it's like look all I can do is show you this awesome screen yeah and show you awesome text and not worry about the Sun and crap like that yes all I do enjoy me and that's that that's why the kindle is such a better tab machine for reading books yeah then the ipad will ever be or anything with a backlit screen will ever be right aside from actual books aside right like we're not talking about a book yeah but you know I man I mean I'm with you and I sort of I don't you could do you get if sand gets in your book you just shake the book and the sand comes out right it gets very new it like it's good technology it is good technology great technology but print is dead I think we all know that uh you get sand in your kindle whatever it's 80 bucks you buy a new one well yeah people just have 80 bucks it is not you know catastrophic like it would be for if if you know sand got under the screen in your ipad right i mean i'm never gonna do it i tried reading tina fey's book on a plane ride over the holidays on my mytouch but it would not do it no it's terrible like i said the only thing i pads are good for resale like even e on a Kindle i don't think i could be able to oh why is that just because i like having the tactile feel okay you know two more pages like dog earring my pages you're just a damn caveman no interesting it's not that it's just that you know like it feels good and then I like seeing the progression of how many pages I have left sure terms of thickness you'd rather that represented represented in real physical volume of pages rather than less important rather than a little like pointer to tell you how far you are along yeah exact I like the fact that i can change the font size i like that i can change the actual font i like that you know it just looks really crisp and clear and to me that's awesome okay uh but yeah that's that's where i'm at with the kindle i'm loving it um i read like a lot of a book while I was away what book did you read I'm hunger okay ah the truth comes out did you really handy I'm in the process of reading it and it's not sort of cute timeout because you come with the coloring book no I came with a Hello Kitty backpack but listen it's cool because I really dig children's books well it's not a children's book per se it's like what a book an adult it's a thank you Richard is a young adult book but it's better than the crap like Twilight and read not recommended reading age in that book has a plus sign after the age you probably shouldn't be reading stop it man and that's not the only guessing it's not the most cerebral thing I've ever put into my brain but whatever did I read them they're great they are good don't forget the giver right like that's the same reading level as far as I'm concerned giver is one of the best books I've ever read yeah it's great ok so i'm not saying Hunger Games as good as the giver because so far it's not right but you know it's that same sort of like dystopian future sort of thing so come on call me some slack so there ok so they're coming out with a movie pretty soon um what what is this book by it's like no we're not talking about that ok we'll talk about it but Kenny I feel that's the problem here we need like hunger getting tracks are you going off the drags don't make fun of that man reading is great it doesn't matter if you're reading the telephone book or war and peace as long as you're reading it's good don't let it a man never between the virgin pina coladas in this I don't know what you imagine reading Hunger Games and sipping on a nice virgin vehicle of is not hasty typical floaties on at the same time those in the shape of a duck yeah as a fanny pack our let's talk more about ipad 3 okay I want to bring this up if you don't mind her the okay uh I bought an ipad to the day came out last year right uh and now fast forward a year later I know richard has an ipad 2 as well so you bought you buy yours around launcher yeah like a month after okay so he's on 11 months i'm on 12 okay why does like why am I expected to like pony up again like these iPads are like one year devices cell phones aren't even one year devices cell phones are like two year devices right why should I need to buy a new one every year now I know obviously Applewood wants me to do that I'm not going to but I feel like there's a lot of people in this office included right that will just pony up and be like oh whatever you say yeah you know I'm going to buy this again and again and spend five hundred dollars a month I'm sorry I year which works out to be wat like 42 bucks of yeah like 42 bucks a month right okay so what do we what are we doing here is this what it is is this how it I don't know do you think do you think it's smart for them to keep doing it every year it's crazy to even try and argue with them because they sell so many million tablets a year it's freaking ridiculous I mean I think there's something to be said about sites like gazelle radioshack ebay even that will you know you can resale you can resell your old iPad for nearly the same amount of money that you paid for it right like I'm writing at resale prices right now in ebay they're going for about like you know three hundred ninety bucks for an ipad 2 that has more how many gigs 16 gigs for that wife here's a little breakdown right here so if you have a Wi-Fi only ipad now you can sell that 32 gig for 400 bucks around that price if it's a you know in relatively good condition no flaws whatever you know i mean if you really want to do that you can you can resell it and then they put that money towards a new one here I must have the brand new ipad I guess you're right I take some of it back then you know I mean well the thing is is like obviously you're not buying a new iPad and just putting one you know the old one in a draw to never be seen again I'm sorry can you repeat that same bra repeat all drawers you know what I mean like that's a lot of money Richard love sprays make fun of the guy I'm just getting the crap slapped out of me all right with the chocolate in a drawer would this be good for any annoying job easy don't wipe it shut up all right so yeah I see what you mean though yeah but what you remember I think when you bought the ipad 2 you gave the ipad 12 specie no didn't have an eyepin happen no something happened like that we save your old version nobody else talk maybe like my mac my powerbook all right all right that's nothing about seven years ago by the time uh yeah I think it's yeah I don't know do i do what do I do do I get the new one and sell the old one well it depends on what features you think would be worth the upgrade right like is there any one thing that if they came out with it you'd be like yep got a good thing to talk about so you got those dealmakers let's talk about your maker deal breaker okay so let's check these off so dealmaker number one the better resolution HD screen I haven't really called it retina display is that a is that a deal maker no no I don't think agreed no Richard filmmaker no no the other one has a great screen exactly i watched horrible bosses on the plane with the ipad and almost like man this looks great right movie wasn't so good but do you think that it would be a deal maker if you had the ipad one and we're looking to upgrade because two to three is probably not gonna be that big of a deal right one two three I think you're going from a single core to a quad cores right mosley the jump it's a huge jump right right do I sound smart saying that kind of you know like that's a big jump right so I feel like yes deal maker for one two three not a deal maker from two to three because you're only going from deuel to quad right right okay so I'm thinking yeah maybe not not not the case okay uh so then we got the deal maker on that ok 4G LTE if now this is a different sort of category because i don't have a 3g ipad and i'm totally fine uh my wife I yours is why finally as well uh is that wireless connectivity outside of the realm of Wi-Fi are you interested in that depends on the price yeah i like how much do you think that's a lot of money man don't get me wrong though 4g is amazing right and i and i have it on my verizon samsung galaxy nexus and i freaking love it I'm downloaded and right 100 megabyte movies in less than 10 I think that's a good point though you make if if you already have a phone that can do 4G or if you're even happy with your regular 3g service on your cell phone then when you leave the house maybe just use your phone not a dealmaker to me it's like if if i have a 4g phone and 4g service why in the world am i paying the money to do to make my ipad a 4g ipad I don't need two devices that are running on this and if that's what I want to do just just pay for the hot spot and make your phone one right you know and then it's not and then not only can the ipad take advantage of the 4g other devices you own can take care take advantage of it so think about that so so far there's no deal makers so judging by my numbers here that's over three it's over three all right let's talk about I'm just like looking for a reason to buy this thing right you know and and and then in the the weird like seeing everyone we're going for eight crap over this right okay let's talk about storage capacity right so right now the ipad 2 has 16 32 64 gigabyte storage capacities um in your experience have you been downloading a lot of games Richard like please feel free to chime in as well um you know like apps and all that stuff when you're downloading them have you noticed that your iPad's getting filled up yeah and i'll be i have a 32 gig one as well okay but this is something that's mostly my fault i have a live a buttload of games that I don't play right okay and i and i'm still like seven and a half gigs in the buffer zone order I'm hoarder I'm not an appt hoarder okay uh I have movies on there that I've already watched and haven't deleted I have two gigs of comic books right that I've read probably half of and i'm just too lazy i don't delete them right so 32 gig capacity i'm okay with you have what a 16 and how do you feel about that I have a lot of space still still open yeah but i feel like i don't use mine to its full capacity okay I you basically just use it for web stuff yeah and like email yeah and so I don't download a lot of stuff all right all for your maker not plus you could just buy an iCloud account right for right negligible amount of money a month is for sure there for sure yeah I mean you know look we're not you know people are like oh you guys are haters well yeah we do hate a lot of stuff but we like to bring things down to reality because there's too much hype machine it's not fair it's like Apple has disadvantage and it's not fair everyone's going to get a fair shake and this is their fair shake because the ipad HD is sort of like a not necessarily a milestone in the products evolution but it's certainly without a doubt like a litmus test it's sort of like this you know step words like okay right people you know there's there's two generations of people now have had a chance to buy an ipad in the last two years right do you buy this one obviously if you don't own an ipad or never have of course you're going to recommend the ipad HD let's talk a little bit about something positive with the Apple sure at three then because sounds like we're getting a little pessimistic here we don't know much about what's going to happen but we do know that apple will come out with a new applecare+ program they did for the iphone 4s okay um so last i think last year's like back in october when the 4s came out they unveiled the new apple care program that covered accidental damage so this includes stuff like dropping your phone in the toilet or getting water damage on it from the rain you know like things like that um sweat-proof I'm just trying to like I feel like if you dropped your iPad in the toilet you'd be okay because you can't make it down Horner would you unless you know like if it fell in flat yeah like pre you know biggest meeting that too i love a photo yes someone just put in there i better you'd be okay you wouldn't even have to like shake it out a little yeah and if it had a case on it oh you're your money feel free you're my face up your money I money in the bank you'd be able to resell that bad boy but if it was an outhouse that'd be a little bit yeah well I think I guess you'd have to think about the timing on when you dropped it right I'm not sure and I had ever been in and out but thank you for creating that visual why would anybody bring an iPad somewhere where there would be is that now like an outdoor music ass it's not like the biggest anachronism I've ever heard love to see that's amazing it's like going back in time giving billy the kid yeah ipad that's incredible that's amazing so yeah they're gonna I think they're gonna be offering a new $99 apple care package to replace the old $79 right and that'll cover a lot more okay and you can get that retro actively for your ipad 2 & 1 now here's a little secret for people that don't know in the land of Apple everyone gets one free pass yeah that's how it works and I it's like that spider-man skid on family guy everyone gets one yeah right that's how it works I don't know who did it had relatives over one day playing on my iPad and the day they left there's a big crack my ipad screen I don't maybe grandma sat on it okay yeah right so there I am all butthurt over this literally literally cuz it was probably someone's ass crack I go over there to the apple store the very next day and this dudes like bro I got you do what he's like dude don't worry about this yeah I'm Michael I had this whole story lined up I couldn't wait to just lie right up to this guy what were you gonna say to I don't know it's gonna be like I don't know yeah but he's like dude don't worry about it I'll replace it no problem right the next day I had a new iPad alright so it's not a big deal for number one save it for the iTunes yeah for sure you never like it's free passes Apple is like Nordstrom's all right they have like a very very lenient return policy there the walmart return balance act all you gotta do is ask to talk to the manager yeah he really nice about you don't even have to doggy the manager don't be a jerk that's the thing you can't be a dick don't be what's your dick tanner like oh this guy's gonna bribe balls I'm gonna you know I'm not gonna lie i've replaced two iphones before see one was out of warranty it was after the one year and they still replaced it all i had to do was like you know plead with the manager give some sob story about how you came on sat on it all rights it yeah exactly I think she doesn't know any better she's 90 yeah you know something like that it works every steel-plated her everything she sits home free you should see my gosh looks like yeah okay I've never had to replace anything really yeah I've never had an apple product break unbelievable it's amazing I feel like everyone I know is head at least something go wrong when I first got my powerbook g4 the backlit keyboard was all left up right and I kept having to go in maybe like down no problem no problem right so I mean applecare I feel like if if your company's buying it for you then get in um I also don't want anyone to be like hey and no chat room it's not because we work for seeing it what it's not that I've never dropped to see that name once maybe if you do no no no I've never ever once done it for an apple I'm just wearing your seen as security ban on we none of that crap man that's lame dude on that is really know it's lame it's lame I know people that have done that you know I've seen people do it a point finger not pointing Rangers Richard Peter said not a point fingers but I know people in this office have done it that ain't cool man you're bringing seen it down yeah it's not about that uh so so yeah that's that's the story with that I don't want people to freak out and be like I'm not going to buy applecare and then they use it as a frisbee and they bring it in and they'll replace it every single solitary time I've gone into an apple store talk to one of the so-called geniuses and they replace it no questions asked I can't say that for the fourth or fifth time you break your iPad but that's how it works once you get an ipad though you know we should definitely get this is for free hmm so please be sure to download this Find My iPad yeah you guys have this it exists for the iphone as well it's an app that basically uses your GPS tracking and then an online website that you can access from any computer with an internet connection right that in case you do lose your iPad you can track it down to exactly where it is yeah it's pretty cool I knew that just in my bedroom when I can't ya because you can send a tone so it'll it'll beep oh yeah that's really smart it's really sorry I when you lose your keys or whatever yeah wish you had something like that but they make stuff like that you could push a little button and it sends a remote you make a key change don't like that yeah what I normally do on my phone is if I can't find it it's lost in my house I'll just go on gchat and you can call from your computer oh I just do that but that looks pretty sick I find my ID guess why we found a lot fun talking shop about the ipad HD but we gotta go because gotta make room for buzz out loud that's doing a special for our iPad easy then we gotta start right now so make sure you tune in for that before we go I lost a bet night oh my wife some you know uh retro breed retribution yeah uh we've been playing picross 3d on the Nintendo DS for about four years okay it looks like a puzzle games a puzzle game and finally she beat me she has gotten to a higher level than I have impress a screenshot is here she sent it to me yesterday my phone and with the caption suck it haha here it is here it is you one I I can only attempt to try and de thrown her but she's the queen of picross 3d yes and I'm forever indebted to that achievement so there was what did she get like a fancy dinner did she get after Bayern ipad HD coupon book fire an ipad HD you know I wonder dollar back it's big bet that's gonna do it for us give us a call 866 404 cnet is the number or you can email us to 404 @ cnet.com we'll be back with a regular length show tomorrow make sure you tune in for that all things ipad HD at cnet com make sure you follow the live blog as well that's where you going to get the latest and greatest for all the announcements in San Francisco alright thanks to Richard on the ones and twos no preciate it dude we'll see you guys tomorrow have a great one I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm Justin you it's the 404 high-tech lowbrow more on the ipad HD tomorrow and tomorrow we'll see you then