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The 404 Ep. 1007: Where it's the 90s!

2012-03-12
it is friday march nine 2012 is the 404 show only on cnet TV I am Jeff Bakalar and I am Justin you and this is the show where hey the 90 hey it's the nineties people are doing crazy things you know screw it we're doing it all ourselves today cats and dogs living together yes hysteria look down there it is there it is so I hope you're watching the video today because we've got a lot of really special camera shots we decided to rig up all the cameras today to show exactly what we're doing I've got like this keyboard ivory set up here hello kitty ivories so basically I didn't over let's be totally honest what's going on today you know we got a lot of people out South by Southwest yeah you talked to mark let's say you're talking Richard Peterson you're talking Bridget Carey and I think Brian and Molly are out there too right uh we were gonna go but then we realized that we hate Texas yeah I don't like standing for a long time and I heard there's a shortage of chairs at South by yeah so we decided to forgo such an event maybe plan better next time yeah and jump in next year you know with both feet so I was kind of hoping to check out some of the bands that were playing this year yeah me too i'm a little bitter about that I heard one of my one of my new favorite bands of the month is gonna be there what's that foxy shazam oh I think they're gonna be there yeah they are so good how did you describe their sound again it is like kind of a mash-up between two bands they're like if Queen and I don't know what got together okay they're very like epic rock yeah the vocalist has like that high-pitched Freddie Oh like the darkness yeah that's right they have a darkness in Queen had a baby and it's called foxy shazam yeah I wanted to go cuz Andrew W K is gonna be right and he's doing the whole I get wet records right something that he's playing the entire I get way which is awesome friend of the show Andrew W K yeah that's right so uh you know it's just Justin me today we're really excited about that because I think we've done some of our best stuff just you and me shooting I agree the credit should be shot yeah where the shooter and it will be shot accordingly and a short show today because we'd love we just door I think that's a very aesthetically visually pleasing composition right there so we're looking at the TriCaster these are this is like the control panel we use right which the camera is like insider stuff is like behind the scenes stuff now I get to see that this is like podcasting 101 here and we're learning this as we go to but so this is my shot you want to look at what Jeff's working with his hands right here you know as a paper I like bringing this up and bringing this down hey I'm gonna put that up and put that down yeah I'm gonna go up with these three down with these you know what I'm saying there's a lot of ins and outs and what-have-yous yeah people think we just sit around like you know I don't know what there's not clothes on here no it's not it's never like that yeah kidding me we we started wearing pants once the cameras got put into yeah yeah also they got cold in here too hmm so anyway yeah let's get to some of the stories for today cuz it's gonna be kind of a short show only it's Friday and also and I knees it's the 90s it's Friday you know crazy things started happening in the 90s speaking of the 90s this is kind of a cool story yeah obviously you've seen home alone I have and it's a subsequent sequels I've only have abs hurt oh you're talking about old man Duncan tells ya the third one no wasn't I didn't see the third one the third one's not McCullough third ones like that weird kid the second one is lost in New York right where the Wet Bandits become these sticky bandits right and Marvin Harry it magically escaped jail and going up in the back of a fish market in exactly man this thing was like they put taper on their hands and they would put it in like a donation like a Salvation Army but a bucket just feel like 78 cents at a time yeah they don't really I mean in 1995 that was a lot of money in New York you could you know rent a hotel room at the Plaza right right now you can't no no what you can do is you can buy the original house from home alone well you look at but now it's sold so this actually went on sale last May talked about that yeah we talked about it uh god it's so crazy how we look followed up all these doors yeah this is a short I'm not sure anyone has followed up on us how do you remember talking about this story yeah are you sure we covered hundred percent positive bummer yeah okay anyway time flies when you're doing work the same thing every day uh so this is from the 1920s it's like this mansion that was featured in the home alone movie yes and it went on sale in Chicago took in Chicago's North Shore but here it is it finally sold for 1.6 million dollars that's actually a lot less than what the owners wanted to get out i was going to say that doesn't that looks like a two-million-dollar house yeah I know it's beautiful I mean it's like fashion after a 1920s manage they were asking 2.4 originally for it if now I have a question did they actually um shoot inside that house for the movie oh they did yeah so we can actually take a virtual oh let us please let's do this right now um so yeah all right when you walk in you get that staircase where they you know we slid down so they shot the hole in this freaking house yeah yeah yeahs think it's really cool they actually wanted to shoot in it for Uncle Buck to really dating secure it so they had to do it for home alone the movie that came after i wanna this is this maybe is a little tangential but you know a lot this is what we do on fridays yeah okay get to f it feel like there are certain sets on TV sitcom family room sets yeah use aim more than once oh I'm trying to think of what that I think one of them is step by step okay when the staircase on the light and odd there charlie sheen show no odd bottom two and a half men no yeah I don't know I feel like and maybe the chatham can help us out because I'm almost positive there's at least two or three sitcoms that shared the same set may be on the same lot maybe they want to you know break the set down and they wanted to keep it together ya feel like there are certain and you know they're completely designed differently you don't I mean like right totally different color schemes but the furniture the bare bones the blueprints of that set are intact right I don't know what the hell those ones are though I'm trying to yeah I feel like I've had this thought before when I've been watching and they're only they're always in the 90s 20 it was like the living room set up and there's a staircase on the left hand side next to the difference I feel like spit is it like I don't know I feel it's like I can't I can't put my finger on it yeah so maybe it's just that maybe it's just that sitcoms use the same sort of you know visually pleasing layout because that's what works for television right no II mean that makes sense that makes more sense I feel like it's like boy meets world and step by step or something like that or there yet and then you have like full house and like family strangers yeah perfect strangers in the apartment right you know they're in New York hmm that's weird i want to know i wanna i really want to know about that because that's really what's okay wait so cherish night says Children's Hospital and scrubs what first off scrubs was really in a hospital that looked like what I don't know and children hospital appears to look like it's in hospital to that's not bad we're talking talking about sitcom taped in front of a live studio audience right that sort of stuff well anyway we'll let the chatroom kind of percolate on that a little bit let's go back to this home alone house this is really cool so here's the kitchen where all that one scene happened yeah all he updated its updated right like what you did a little jerk yeah awesome it looks pretty awesome so yeah I mean there's been a lot of improvements made to the inside of the house since the 90s has been 25 years after all it's pretty dope when did the original uh one of the original homeland movie come out I want to get bummed about how old I feel I'm gonna say 1988 really 190 all I think you should look that up because I guru that I kind of oh man I I want to say it's 1990 an idea oh my god it's been 22 22 years since little Macaulay Culkin single-handedly took down to violent birdie yeah with like a bunch of silly string and micro machines yeah have you seen him lately so I was watching a show last night I was watching bravo your watch and they interviewed wilmer valderama valderrama and they're like hey you're tight with Macaulay Culkin yeah whys he looking all you know emaciated yeah he looks all drugged out and he said that it was in the case he said that you know that was just the crappy photo cheese he looks okay here I mean maybe he just had a rough night party maybe he shouldn't be drinking red bull because I just don't think his heart can take it ya know it he does look terrible there but that's fine he look man he looks he I'm not trying to be fine he looks sick yeah you know he looks fine this is what I look like in the morning now is duh you red bull man you he makes you look like a fatty mcfatterson telling you man that's brutal really weird on um all right we'll move away from the from the 80s reminiscing nineties reminiscing we'll get to some show voicemails later on where the topic of movies in their decade comes up again okay but for now I really want to talk about this because you know we've been getting a lot of calls from people everyone's like hey it's so refreshing to hear cnet not love apple for five seconds right I'm saying like right and you know it's not that we're we're trying to take the the opposite position we're just trying to take a side of the you know we're trying to look at everything and differently as possible and let people know it's not all sunshine and roses right um the new update for the iphone came out yeah and apparently it's displaying a 4g logo now that's part of the update so believe we have a screenshot we can check out right here so check this out this so i updated my phone yesterday notta i OS 5.1 it's really convenient you can just do it if you're attached to a Wi-Fi network right and i did it took about half an hour and when i updated i looked and there's this little 4g in the corner now so assuming i was assuming that this is like a 4G connection i would get 4G speeds on it um Apple's claiming that you can get about 72 megabits per second on the down no that seems crazy to me that's like internet home no that's that doesn't sound right yeah but uh what's surprising to me is that they just sort of apparently are displaying a you know a logo that is not accurate right right and I wanted to get somebody in here that like Scott or something that could talk about the network but I looked up and did a little bit of research so the iphone runs on spca plus right hspa+ now it's very confusing a lot of letters and plus ly symbol which is actually faster than 3G but not quite as fast as 4G right and so the next iPhone when it comes out probably in September I'm assuming yeah we'll probably be 4g speeds for now this is a little deceptive I think this is telling people that it's a 4g phone it's not a fortune what's strange about this though is what had recently happened so the ITU which I my guess is just some sort of like institution that dictates standardized speeds and and wireless cellular networks right arm it's the International Telecommunication Union and apparently the standards at which they set a 4g phone must adhere to yeah they seem to have backpedaled on what constitutes a 4g phone and it's weird because it's like oh they just did it so Apple could maybe get away with putting that 4G logo on their phone it's kind of messed up right it's kind of not cool and it almost feels like if you just look at the chain of events and infer it's sort of just like oh they're doing it just because Apple said they write this to be displayed on their phone it's like Apple letting Apple create the rules for which they can put whatever they want on the phone which is a little suspect regardless officially now the ITU is recognizing that the iphone is technically a 4g phone yeah i mean that's that's what gizmodo saying here that's interesting but on you know like also the verge did their own their own spy comparison here yeah and it it was literally getting the exact same speeds as a 3g so there's hardly any jump whatsoever so check this out so there so are they saying that the 4g they're saying that supposedly even after the 4g update on the phone yeah you're still getting about the same megabits per second that but up yeah I'm not worried we're looking at 1.58 megabit down yeah this is in New York yeah I think I think that's looking like 3g is looking like 3g numbers right there yeah that's been really that easy yeah I mean is that not a sus buts shady cool that's shady I like that you know uh what's going on the general iOS 5.1 update was a little disappointing to there's really nothing else that has been that's new you know like in terms of an upgrade you get additional Japanese series support really matter no nominees no mum Japanese and then you get like a little camera icon when you just press the home button you can swipe that up and go directly to the camera application also not that couldn't do that on my ice cream sandwich phone for about four months yeah so I'll call me when you come up with something clever yeah i mean what's you know what I mean don't talking to the side of your mouth like I can't I'm just saying like yeah you know they roll out these arbitrary updates that a lot of people have been enjoying for a while yeah and I'm supposed to you know bow down Neil pray come on it's not gonna happen i'm gonna happen screw you Apple it's just funny though you know you think about like all of these labels it's like these 4G labels right it's all arbitrate does its marketing target is generally what those words and spin I mean yeah yeah it's really upsetting and I feel like the more and more people educate themselves about what exactly the kind of crap they're getting shoveled in their face right you know it's better for us I also feel like people aren't realizing what they're doing with their phones probably don't necessitate 4G speeds like for example i'm on 3g right now i've never had to complain about you know like browsing speed you're not being well this is you haven't had the pleasure yeah that's probably true too i mean i'm downloading you know 40 megabyte audio files in less than like a minute what do you download a podcast okay yeah like when you're on the go yeah I'm doing it and it's like no problem right and that's special there just needs to be a standard across all of the handsets and networks I feel I agreement it needs to be a naming standard hey minute well don't even get me started with the names we'll get to some of that in a little bit before we start hitting the voicemails and the emails I want to go to a story here by wired wires claiming that up when you type words with your left hand that actually might shape the meaning of said words yeah this is kind of a crazy story so you know we can kind of tell the like the nuances of language and things like sorry chasm by the tone of your voice a quarter deliver speech of course you know like if I was like hey Jess nice shirt dude Thanks you know I mean like that's clearly sarcasm you could actually find out those nuances in the way that people type out the characters online right so these this is like a social psychologists study that came out and wired is profiling this they're saying that people attach more positive meetings two words that are typed that contain letters that you type with your right hand because it's actually easier to type those letters out because most people are right-handed and that's their dominant but also it's because there are more letters on the qwerty keyboard that exists that you type with your right hand and your left and just an easy thing yeah so if you compare the amount of letters you I remember the exact number is well I bet there's more on your right hand oh I bet it's a staggering amount I bet it's like three two one right and I was intentionally created because there are more right-handed than left-handers well if you look at yeah I was trying to I was trying to sound smart but again I'm just trying to think like my right hand the way i look at the keyboard here right is i mean i feel like this right hand touches from like the are diagonal down almost even though it's probably only supposed to do like what the why you ever yeah yeah well that is common the properties right of course I feel like I i flirt with that appropriate type of typing but my right hand just does whatever it wants right yeah i mean i mean this study is kind of nebulous i'm seeing taking it with a big grain of salt here but i feel like you could tell more about the way people type by the pressure they put on the keys there should be some kind of application that can test how hard you're pressing the keys yeah like when you get angry just like really you're allowed typer is that why you're bringing that up because you're an angry typer I am I get pissed yeah you put a lot of emotion into it you just hate keys on counter um before we get to our our emails and voicemails I want to bring up our lovely friends at Nintendo they're actually doing something really cool they know a lot of 40 for listeners are big gamers and in a cool little partnership that we're going to do this weekend we're up to give away 5 free codes for the 3ds downloadable game mighty switch force I believe we have a video of some gameplay that Justin is going 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we're just and follow and tweet out again your favorite episode of 2012 yeah it's like oh this is a little ulterior motive there we want to sort of get a gauge of what people have enjoyed from 2012 as well so do that and your chance to win one of five free codes let's hit up the voicemails and emails I got an email from patrick p mmm this is crazy and I guess he was talking about the you know taking a photo with your phone something that so he uses a lot of cuss words do so I'm gonna have to tread very lightly here he goes real Android users don't give an F we got a torrent and third-party sources you gonna edit your pics in iphoto like a bee I guess like a bitch I'll plug my blank into your USB port you want to talk about cameras I won't be holding up no shoe boxes I guess he's talking about like your net photo with an iPad I'll keep that shizz on the DL 7030 and then he lists like the sea was like eff scott numbers and I so do so strange like a like a boss then I'll Jack that into the into my a to hundreds USB port and pop that shizz with a touch and boom I don't get is it supposed to be set to music I don't know goes I thought you knew bakalar I thought you knew well sir you have put me in my place my god I feel like I've been served you skipped over the best part where he was like I'm also gonna up that shiz to picasa web this is a terabyte wrap I don't know who is it is exactly no no no no rolling us so was asking me about terabyte the other day terabyte has taken a hiatus of absence if you will so anyway thanks for the email Patrick I guess yeah I don't know he was listening to like Eminem or something there is uh this is from Dave the app aholic that we're calling now right he said he thought he would actually have a little fun with his appt addiction email he says of course that number which was in the for thousands of apps he said that number comes from apps purchaser download after the last four years he looked back at his first four apps and he bought a few apps those are purchase on July eleventh two thousand eight but then he goes down to sort of calculate what he actually has been paying he was the last time I checked listen this the average was about a dollar 15 per app so yes 4780 for apps times a dollar fifteen equals 5501 dollar and sixty cents so over four years that's been almost 1400 bucks a year that's the price of a decent imac so yeah he's been getting spending a lot of money I can't believe that and he's admitting it to which i think is super brave I mean I think it's fine if he's actually spending time playing these apps and getting a good life span yeah you know me but if he's doing what I think everyone does with their iphone apps look at them for three minute and then forget it forget about it yeah delete it because they get lost in the ether and because there no one can is a no one's been dancing funny don't you yes I I mean Dave if you can afford it more power to you man it must be nice being able to for fourteen dollars of abs a year yeah that's sick man if you can afford it more power to you I would not spend I'm sure there's some sort of 12-step program you can enroll you're right stop that and why are you paying six dollars for solitaire that's what my quest don't pay for a sitter 599 for a game called solitaire forever which I can't imagine me much different than a thousand other free solid I don't know you're you make a damn good point I do not know um Wisconsin from James writes in about the ipad name while it may be confusing to not call the new ipad the ipad 3 most apple products haven't had this type of naming recently all the ipods are just referred to as their generation number which i think sucks and is not easy what i like that why do you like that it's the same thing that's calling it you know like ipod 2002 it's the same idea no you should do well now called the year the point is that so that if you can if you wanted to buy an accessory for it but news models have subsequently come out now you can just go back and be like oh i have the 3g model it's hogwash it's hogwash he goes people had to figure out what generation they had with the ipods and now it sounds like it's going to be the same deal with ipads and most likely the iphone James thinks that the next iPhone is just going to be called iphone yeah which I mean I don't know all the four heads in the world would be slapped I think it would be especially confusing to call the next generation iphone the iphone 5 because it's technically the sixth generation iphone people already called the iphone for the iphone 4g and thought that the 4g speeds when it did it daddy areata you're right it gets confusing which is why my vote is for the year yeah and and the difference is you don't really talk about macbooks with other people but you always bring out your iphone you do and then you say what kind of iphone your iphone other the answer iphone 13 iphone 14 yeah did in 2013 big effing deal calls from the public time to show the love for scenic all right this is bernard bringing up very very relevant and important oh you're gonna see how i do the yeah okay the writing let's see okay Bernard DM i will now click on this one hello this is benari from hampton virginia and i had a question regarding episode 1003 we have the gutenberg on and Justin made a comment saying that the Ghostbusters had that 80s nostalgia and the crappy cg on things like that well my question is if that movie represented the eighties type of atmosphere fuel what movies would you save represented are made more so like the 2000s and late 91 movies would you say fall in that area I was curious to see which one to come up would you say the matrix a conception which okay well i wouldn't i wouldn't say matrix or inception because those are science fiction movies yes already stopping what we're talking about and correct me if i'm wrong and i want you to die this is the way I wanted you to sort of speak about this okay and maybe I'm inferring the wrong thing when you talked about Ghostbusters representing the 80s that to me meant like New York in the ad right like that like an escape from me right not necessarily like oh we when the eighties we thought it was going to be giant marshmallow right right right so it's tough to equate the matrix to the 90s because that was just like a filmmaking aesthetic as opposed to a reflection of pop culture and and an American rife in the eighties right with that said would you agree a an accurate representation of 90s life for film would be something like mall rats yeah yeah I think that is it I think's lat I think those movies nail it I think hackers even nails it yeah as hackers is like Manhattan in the 90s you know what really hit it for me was a reality bites yes you see that rate example yes one of my daughter Stacy's favorite film it's amazing higher records yeah what a great 90's movie for sure the 2000s like american pie no that was 90 does that nine yeah I'm trying to say and hardly wait yeah yeah I know when you you know I all those like 90s horror movies actor even know summer there y'all that's the point all good nineties but in terms of the technology is i think is what the caller that's maybe he's what he's getting at I would maybe say independence day like Independence Day was at like 90 that's the that's a 92 me of mid 90s like bad that was yeah I mean Armageddon you're talking about like did the the rise of the disaster film right right right you know exactly totally that was a great voice mail hmm I appreciate that Bernard keep on listening dude um next call let's see what we got here Papa Papa papa alright we'll go to this is this is relevant it was up God's orlando florida from edwin just listen to yesterday's show and you could tell Wilson's gone man is the Apple haterade was Fallone yesterday him anyways love the episode just wanted to share a thought you know Apple they're not having any problems selling the ipad have it is happening they would have just come out with an ipad 2.5 and said we have a new color they still is so you know millions of these things so i think the retina basically it is a huge upgrade to it i think just that alone it's worth you know taking a look at it it's funny he brings up Wilson I talked to us in yesterday people who wanted to know he is buying an ipad are you serious I said that well I go to him know not sir he writes me and I am and he's like he's like hey dude you hear the announcement I was and I don't know yeah we know I didn't want know what's today I was like I have no idea his apple and he's like sure you get one right ? like implying that of course I was and I'm like absolutely not there's no reason why you should have owned all three generation have the first one did he did have the first yeah I think so I don't think he did actually no no I think he that's what most amazing that he wanted one bed uh he said he's gonna give one to a family member yada yada yada he just needed a way to rationalize all but anyway that's going to do it for us thanks so much everyone for again don't forget your chance to win one of five codes for the nintendo game mighty switch force we're giving that away on monday make sure you follow us on twitter look at you you want to get like hell yeah it comes if you want to know it's for that that's cool that's going to do it for us 866 40 for CNN is the number to call or you can email us the 404 at cnet com keep sending in those emails keep sending in those voicemails I have a bunch that I didn't get to but thanks to every single one of you that's called in it really means a lot you are the other unofficial host of the 44 don't forget that a lot more exciting things coming your way next week and it'll be nice to actually have a full week of shows yeah that's right it's going to be real fun we're going to get Scott Stein in here rustic is coming back chatter wants Richard back so that they have Richard will be back i believe on tuesday yeah have a great weekend guys enjoy the nice weather if you've got it and we'll see you here bright and early at noon on Monday afternoon until then take it easy I'm Jeff Bakalar Justin you it's a 404 high-tech lowbrow we will see you guys on Monday see ya
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