Gadgetory

it's Monday March twelfth 2012 you've tuned into the 44 show on CNN TV I'm Jeff Bakalar I'm Joseph kaminski and I'm Justin you this is the show where is this look infected I don't know you're gonna be viable and by this we mean your whole face dude I you know the weather is getting warmer yeah I had an allergy attack over the weekend that left me paralyzed you have to understand that when the seasons change and the Sun actually comes out in the sky Jeff's entire being is affected right like his skin every year my body seems to reject it more I know so the the side effects are so much more severe you have to worry about like sunburn on your school have to worry about internal allergies messing up your what like all your your nasal cavity I can't breathe my eyes are not be you're not meant for this world no I don't think humans are meant for this world or something's trying to get rid of us yeah it's like the happening I don't know man do you guys don't suffer from allergies I do i do I like I said earlier I used to be allergic to cats but I don't think I'm allergic to them anymore so that one count that that was it although I asked anything that's anything I was at the Rockstar Games offices on Friday may had a cat I just realized that but that's I mean I mean we always said I know that you're allergic I'm over my apartment your eyes yeah let's put that lasts for 12 seconds right this has been happening to me for like five days I could barely speak sometimes you're crazy that's like that's crazy that what should i do what should i do dr. Kaminsky what should you do what should you do arm I prescribe a room with an air filter air conditioner giddy and a dozen of your favorite video games yeah I need a one-way trip to the North Pole is what I mean I they need to stop going outside it's ice bad and you know I want I think about him like man if I was still living in suburbia with my parents with the trees and the grass right I'd be in a hospital you're lucky that you live somewhere where there's even one tree you're talking about these single tree at the apartment 1a whole tree out yeah my since I've lived in New York City Oh haven't seen a tree in four years remember what that looks like I find the one tree that's just making me just disable blowing leaves into your face it's just terrible so do you start sneezing and whooping and coughing during cripples no i don't why why well just know the trees Christmas trees pine trees I would recommend that you move to the west coast but California's dealing with smog and you probably wouldn't get used to that F goes just goes the Radio City Kan went to see the big train passes out is also why i love winter so much people are like all you love the coal because there's no there's no allergies right there's no bugs that i agree i plug I don't like getting bit the logs are that well you got you got that sweet blood I guess I do notice i don't know maybe maybe like a you know they like that kettle tonic blood i don't know near me you know that's just yeah that happens yeah yeah yeah so Joey's here today to help us out thanks for being here Joey thank you for having me guys uh not too much news over the weekend South by Southwest is alive and kicking yeah um we're we're not there for the record not in Texas right now Bridget Carey was there though I saw a video this morning of her witnessing a eating competition with takeru kobayashi just this video i did on there what were they eating i forgot it was uh yet it was i heard about the video I'll I didn't see it it was it a hot dog eating competition that is nobody's known for yeah he is he also does something else though wait I'm sorry he ate 13 grilled cheeses and set the record at South by Southwest that's a lot of a new chain seen it what kind of bread are we talking I think it was white bread but it was toasted which makes a big difference apparently it was for uh it's for a record setter calm okay and his company called group me which is like group text messaging it's like a startup that was happening at South by Southwest this year and there was a competition he beat the record it was like 13 grilled cheeses and uh forget how long in 60 seconds Wow yeah 60 seconds that's 26 pieces of bread 13 slices of American cheese that's a lot look at this guy he's pretty jacked yeah and then they have the traditional yellow coat grilled cheese officiating yeah on either side of him announcing so did you imagine could you imagine i were there with them they'd be like oh that you know they everybody expect the fat guy to win a blue I know why you keep saying that I mean people listen to the video are gonna think that you're actually fat you know none of that guy you're not fat you have no clear big dude like a big stature yeah you can mess you could be like a offensive lineman but yeah if I looked at you I wouldn't be like that guy's effect yes well I'd be scared too you've a solution of the show God or the show where Joe thinks he's fat that's the show top you ya body dysmorphia man yeah man relax you look great you're looking in some fun house mirrors what nobody when you do that you're like you know Jimmy you're not coming ya got there I'm literally but so like tickling myself all justin is doing is moving his shirt yeah oh you're doing all you're doing is massaging your intestine yeah I literally got a finger through my stuff yeah we actually have some you know respectable guts I think right well that actually winter weight to you know it sure is coming up you can be running around it's always your body naturally hibernates a little bit of ever played ball in over a month lets you just got back from a cruise dude that's why I have they 20 pounds that's what's a lot but that's why I feel so bad cuz ya IM like like 14 15 pounds yeah totally understandable yeah all right speaking of losing some weight good good the xbox the new xbox perhaps losing a little bit of weight the next go-around there are rumors and none of this is necessarily true or or confirmed by Microsoft but there are rumors that the next Xbox call it 720 call it whatever the hell you want to call it maybe it's not going to have a disk drive an actual physical media disk drive instead opting for nothing but oh maybe like a solid state drive but nothing but digital downloads for the next generation ago Joey I want to hear you sigh everything about this what do you think about this I don't like it why is that I don't like because you know what all right first of all it's bad enough now with the Xbox as it is with the hard drive that if you were to get another replacement Xbox that you'd have to go through some loops and hoops just to get your data to the network that have you done that I haven't theta not that bad well it's not as easy like even a ps3 you can't take your hard drive move oh yeah everybody want you to cloud save your data right I'm not all for giving everything to everyone else and me paying for don't you think that the next version will streamline that process even more well is the thing all right let's say I don't want to pay for xbox live now now what I can't buy a game uh it's a good question i would imagine for people who uh you know for people who you're talking about me holding on to those clouds say like well not even now that this that well if it's if it's going to be all dlc right how am I going to download a game if I can't get online because I've you can download stuff being a silver member if you want to buy only any member well that's your crazy fault i mean you know but that's the thing you can't even come on but I said logic but it doesn't what I'm saying so you're pushing me into purchasing the system right now you're locking me into having to have some type of on lies and this may not be the case but there's just me following their scheme as of now sure now you're forcing me to pay an annual subscription price just to play and download games that and I don't think that's what they're gonna do okay well hopefully they don't they're not gonna charge you can't swap and loan games with friends maybe I don't want to buy a game anybody's gonna check it out well demos are your friend don't worry you don't have to have those are my friend but you know sometimes you just want to play a little more through you just want to swap with a friend well come on I can't just you know have our cake and eat it too I mean I mean look what I had to do this a player on it had to borrow the whole v10 that's share in the game but but don't you think that uh it sort of makes less sense to continue using physical media in games don't you think that hard drive space is so cheap it does but I but the thing is is that it does make sense but what do you do in the case of like a call of duty when that comes out you're killing the service because everyone's going to download that game at midnight and you don't want to see three hours two hours you don't want to see long download times for a game that you've been itching to get your hands on component so will they be able to give you quick access to the things you want when you want if you combine a premium price you want it when you want it and that's the nice thing about the physical disk you get it you pop it in and even those require some install so you're downloading then you're probably installing like how long does it take from when you initiate this before you actually get the play well maybe like Steam where you could preload stuff right you can download steam allows you to download games before they come out you just can't play them till the day I come out that makes a lot of sense that would be really good you got imagine and maybe we're giving them a little more uh you know confidence then perhaps they are currently you know are working through but maybe they will introduce some sort of pre-loading you know uh and and is it up there and in Microsoft defense i have to say every time there has been an xbox update it has been tremendously faster than n ps3 update it's like boom boom boom you mean you know so it's always been most pose my figure me what you question I've got the red ring of death on xbox so that lets you know I really never I've never read we have an original one I have the second generation your we were the one you know the one before with the hdmi before the you sir and look at me in the eyes yes I the first person I've ever known to not have a red ring I'm serious yeah yeah Xbox how widespread and pervasive it was reinstated I was gonna ask you guys what do you think about people that have bought 360 games that won't be able to play them on this news well there's no first off let's let's what about I mean like there's an issue of backward compat sure and bring up a good point let's in let's take a pause there number one I don't believe this yeah I think they will have a drive I think this I think the story's BS yeah but uh you make a good point if it does in fact eliminate the dist they you know I'm with you yeah I think people will still want to play 360 games especially this current generation has gone on longer than anybody thought it would write the xbox is going on seven years old yeah okay so there are a lot of games that that are still out there that people want to play and the next generation will definitely you know have people wanting to have that backwards compatibility right I don't know how that's going to work maybe you'll be able to somehow hook up your 360 to this new one and sort of rip the game on to it I don't know yeah like on to the solid state drive I don't know how it's going to work but they got to figure out a way to do that because I think perhaps backwards compatibility wasn't as big of an issue as it was from the ps2 to ps3 generation right feel like it's going to be bigger now because of how widespread how big this generally talking seven years of games yeah i mean like xbox is gonna one all said and done they're gonna have like 700 games in the library or so maybe even more i think another reason for this long lifespan just because i don't think people are ready to buy a new console sure you know the economy i mean it took how long for people even start buying ps3 yes they took a while took about this every years to get it because i remember we used to go to events and they would demo a lot of the games on xbox you wouldn't even see ps3's there was only like maybe like a couple years back right started seeing ps3 and xbox is running side by side Brett demonstrating the game's not to mention the fact that a lot of frames per second were better because developers had more time to write and learn the right for the xbox and ps3 so I think right now it's just a major point for them because you have developers who know how to utilize the hardware they not a right for and it's like writing in their sleep now you introduce a new platform how long will that adoption factor take place with people buying and developers being able to write for it and so for this it's a lot it is a lot again I cannot stress this enough it's this is probably you know it song cover we don't know if this is true when the news first came out late last week it was like this is a fact and obviously Microsoft not confirming or denying anything but of course III 23rd 2012 will really probably shed some light on the next generation especially the wii u i I can't see Microsoft having a press conference and not at least mentioning the fact that they're working on something new i think the cult the code name is durango or something like that dodge drag it's not it's not an SUV but uh perhaps they'll they'll touch on this yeah um either way definitely exciting stuff I want to talk to you Joey specifically about a little game called mass effect 3 have you played it at all I mean what's your deal you're laughing at me like I'm some little kid what's the deal I'm not laughing at you like a little kid it's I I don't even know this I can't even believe it myself I am the last game i've actually played and finished was Arkham City wow I have not played a game I've been meaning to get a pickup unchartered I just never did I've been meaning to pick up SX SX SX right I never did I don't know my xbox is even hooked up I like last sucked on my xbox at a living room TV so my son can play Disneyland connect I'm in ladies and gentlemen I am yeah I'm shocked I wish I could freeze my live account because it's just going to waste right now Justin do you believe this I mean this is a guy you go on ps3 network and look all I know I haven't seen your gamertag this is crazy what so now are you blaming this because you're a father or what does oh no I'm not I'm not blaming it on anything like that I just I don't know just things have changed i mean i mean i had the vita i had the VTOL weekend I didn't even play it what the heck's man it's still in the bag what it's the video game days behind you are you actually what are you doing now it sounds like that dude what's are you sick no no I go through these phases where i get really really intense and I step away just as of late it just been more and you know here's another thing i've i've actually considered just today I was like I wonder if they sell out beepers I was actually thinking about putting my cell phone to rest for a little ways that is Eliza man who had to buy a second belt to put his bolsters our joke it was a bandolier that he put over this like a sack you seriously always have the latest cellphone despite having the four previously your the cellular commando yeah for time out miss you this is a guy that had Gary yeah that's really this is really updated evo and then an EVO 3d too yes the beer dude there comes a time we just I just say I'm done with it i just got a man just taking a break but every now and then cuz you know it just feels so good to be free when when i was when i was on that cruise it felt so good yeah not to be reachable no he's right it's like more times unless your phone rings it's it's someone that wants something and i'm not saying i'm opposed to doing favors looking out for people but it you associate such a bad feeling with it that you don't really enjoy it like you used to write like you know I used to love playing games online and then all of a sudden they introduced the headset with you know with the consoles and totally hated it because I'd be online with either some ignorant person on the other end or some rowdy little kid and discuss cus cus it's with you what you start associating things with that really attorney from and I think my phone rings so much your texts from just like oh yeah you don't like you know what I'd rather not and the only reason why I'd even consider be but I would even do that is because I am a father and I go if they need to reach mean regards on my son other than that or my mother cuz you huh right so I'm like you know like I'm just like done this is this is I know how that feels i remember before i got my iphone 4s i was working with a pay-as-you-go flip phone is really nice to only be able to accept text messages there were no beeping notifications for facebook stuff no Instagram is great I I went through the same thing just recently at in the Dominican Republic being completely detached right didn't even and there's something of weird about leaving your your room without your phone because I don't know if you do that the thing that i do when i leave my parts like the whole slap check yes slap slap slap solid oh yeah so 23 slap thing its keys wallet phone right lap slap slap and I was just doing one slap I didn't even carry my wall I just had my room key you did laughing yourselves just one slap I was wearing my thing around I was rocking my room key around my neck it was like the perfect thing to yeah uh look I can't you know uh insult you or blame you for wanting to have some sort of leave of absence from the electronic world in gaming but go back to mess I do really think mass effect 3 is worth talking about it really talked about it already my opinion the best the best game in the year that's not saying much the the years only about two and a half months old but mass effect 3 is such an unbelievable accomplishment Ackerman has like the shirt and we should go take it does he yeah I don't I don't care we should just take it he's not gonna we're just gonna sit this office and collect us yeah he'll probably would've what kind of shirt does he have yeah the one to n seven on it yeah and ever given as a jacket came with a yellow jacket as well that's cool yeah and here's the slim ps3 case that okay it lights up it goes on a ps3 I like the vault there yeah yeah interesting man I didn't realize this but Clint Mansell did the soundtrack for Matsui he's the same guy who did uh was that one movie there's a clint mansell and the kronos quartet it's like the one about a heroine yeah i was reading something about that i was like a cure movie Oh William yeah he did the requiem for a dream score as well that's crazy yeah but yeah is the score really very good the game look very good everything Sam the score the evening you know and games really haven't reached a level of this consistently at least yeah just even the acting it's really really good unbelievable and compelling right I love it oh I think I'll try it I think mass effect 3 is able to create a science fiction universe uh that I actually give a crap about and that's saying a lot I feel like I care more about mass effect than I do Star Wars you know what star wars they just milk it so much it's like jeez Lucas let it go I mean they released a blu-ray one and into this day and I've discussed this before they didn't release the original the original format like Ram you know they have the edited version on the blu-ray but it's not the original original release right which I remember telling was my son's mother some years younger than me that you know when I was a kid they used to play the Ewok song on z100 really yes I didn't know that yak bak mei li z 100 but the thing is within the with the windows in the remake of the movie yeah they replaced that all I kind of like a tribal music and a little beat which is pool too but huh I kind of wanted to hear I also i would love for my son hear the song too yeah you know are gonna praise they used to play that on the radio yeah and it was that's what a phenomenal movie that was not like you know what a phenom I want a major point like a major point yeah at that time and you just can't share it with anybody could they edited out and I gotta go like look for VHS times like Star Wars that's a bummer honey Jeremy's asking me about connect and how that incorporates to the 360 version uh it's mostly useless but it's cool though because there are certain things that you could do with it that perhaps save you some time okay I didn't realize but there is a quick save button you just hit the back button and it saves but you could also say quick save and the ganger saves whenever you want that's really cool also Shepherd can carry five weapons and if you want to switch from one class to the other you can't just hit a button you have to hold down the wheel and then do it if you just say sniper rifle he'll pull out a sniper rifle you just say you know assault rifle so instead of like having to go from each one I think you save a couple maybe like half a second by saying it out loud other than that the kinect incorporation is not that great i mean it's good for giving out commands like if you're playing with like liara and she's in your squad you can say liara assault I'm like you can have her equip certain things without navigating to the wheel so it's sort of like a preference thing how's that any different from having like a microphone in the you know I'm just saying it what do you mean like having the mic plugged into the the controller just saying it and no Mike why I mean what what does the kinect bring that a microphone wouldn't bring oh that but it brings that functionality you can't I don't think you can put that what I'm saying but that's something they can incorporate into my crew show me so my whole point is like you need like this hundred plus dollar peripheral right just I was until out sniper rifle when they could just like you know it's a kind of kind of guy gimmicky when you just kind of put a mic and it's like okay sniper rifle yeah but I think this is I mean know about this nobody should buy kinect just for mass effect 3 how about that does it use the camera at all in the guitar not that I'm aware of no maybe this I don't think so I couldn't tell you because I have because his is in the exit I still have the first ps3 as well it's long line at the first ps3 and blowing them on let me get that off you you're not using it oh that thing is broken I'm just you broke no it's still it's still there I think probably got more like a hair in it than not when you're so much dust that's so gross I guess what it's yours hahaha keep it pawn shop seriously alright what else we got going on oh man so we talked about South by Southwest a little earlier and I wish this were a joke it's not a joke there's a marketing company out of South by Southwest this year called bartle bogle hegarty what their experience menting with something called homeless 4g hotspots that is exactly what the name sounds like n denotes so basically they're giving 4g hot spots to homeless people around the austin texas area and this is like why should examine the marketing experiments bigger screen Bumfights pretty much it you can stream whatever you want so they're giving these 4g hot spots to the homeless guys along with a t-shirt that reads i am a 4 gee hot spot on it do they get any more they get all the money that people pay to get access that 4g hotspot username and password in Fergus but they forget that I now need to hang out near home exactly so they're encouraging people to sit down next these homeless people pay them for access and then you know do whatever work you need on your laptop right next to them and then a person can also Panhandle why the yeah I became itself by they're saying that it's gonna encourage social interaction with homeless people whereas when you're passing by you just give them like a dollar change or ignore them right you know they're inviting a five-second interaction yeah now you actually have to sit down next to them in order to work you want to do are they like background check these people at all there's a reason why some some of them yeah some of them are homeless due to certain circumstances I'm sorry for that similar homeless for other reasons and I mean you can't just give one I totally don't you i can imagine homeless people just being like i could either sit here all day and hang out with these like really overly wealthy people who can afford four chances or i could just sell this whole thing for like thirty dollars the first guy that'll buy it off me I just don't think it's nice that we're essentially bumf I yeah I mean we're like we're just sorry I don't mean to say that you're like I just think it's not i think we're using these people as like guinea pigs yes no it's really a humiliating right you know like hey all will for whatever reason you're homeless time for us to exploit your your sort of mobility it's totally dehumanizing to say i am a 4g hotspot as opposed to being like i'm operating or i'm running about hi i'm in person teens ya ask me about a 4g hotspot you know like i am it's really really d human oh where are they gonna where they're gonna charge these things up that's I don't know I don't know their solar beam is garlic it's not like it's not like people are gonna let these people walk into an establishment and just plug it in right right I don't know I don't know if let's get two voice mails or something cuz that's a totally Bellhorn show to love well like that but before we get to that speaking of South by Southwest everyone knows our our old friend Caroline McCarthy's probably out there yeah it was it up with her instagrams into Twitter followers and whatever she does but she's gonna be on the 404 soon Oh no way yes II boogie when he gets back when she gets back that's gonna be fun so definitely look forward to it's been forever I can't wait to see her and give her a big hug total that'll be a lot of fun uh but for now let's get to some calls from the public time to show the love 86 404 scenic he calls from the public time a little nervous let's just get to that one right away yeah Jeff warned me about a kind of a hateful voicemail we're not hateful well critical it's just like it's just pre-written you don't mean yeah he's just reading off something which means you put a lot of thought into it I appreciate that he showed the love I mean any time he's just like hey i don't know let's just get let's just let's like try and and and civilly sort of discuss this and see how we can move on let's have some fun with this one is that fun with it all right you don't let Joey have fun just and I'll actually deal with it hi I'd like to point out that it's rather ignorant of you to consider it the iPad announcement a minor upgrade name because of the unchanged form factor lots of people would consider 4G LTE and the retina display to be significant changes and the 5 megapixel camera makes the camera actually usable regardless of whether you approve of I've had photography I respect your right to have your own opinion regarding the announcement but as the only daily podcast on cnet I hope for a more balanced analysis without listen you guys are like a two-legged stool what's more ridiculous is your discussion of AT&T 4G on iOS 5.1 4G has been loosely defined for a while now t-mobile is called hspa+ their 4g network forever but you just now get mad cuz Apple has complied with a PM cheese marketing scheme and just gonna have the nerve to say that apple claims his phone now get 72 megabits per second Apple clearly did not have been LTE ship in your phone while you were sleeping and yes I know and intend to exercise my right to unsubscribe ok ok I wrote I wrote some point I recognize this guy's voice he sent us video voicemails before I see yeah I member he sent us one video voicemail woman oh we're taking the beanie that I was wearing well that's nice but he's very calculated I appreciate him writing this down and read preparing this because clearly didn't just spurt that off the dome if he did right I'm terrified of him number one let's address this point by point we were making week now we were not smacking on we weren't really jabbing at the iPad because it didn't have a new form factor I think that's okay if the new ipad doesn't it doesn't have a new pizza like what half a millimeter thicker whatever the hell it is I did bring that up that I thought there's Riley hardware case refresh that would've been nice but it wasn't a deal for sure no I'm not buying it because it looks the same as an ipad 2 how about that it has the iphone 4s camera though it's like it's not even the 4 s's care much the fours how is that true it's what it's a 5 megapixels in the forest like eight well megapixels don't mean understood but I'm sucking where the lenses are different there are some changes to it but I'm speaking in terms of like what apple doesn't continue to do when everybody gets all nasty about it is they could have made the ipad 2 with the retina display they could have made the ipad 2 with this camera they intentionally leave things out and i think people get upset when people point that out it's not like the technology wasn't there it costs them roughly about three hundred and ten dollars per ipad 16 gig with the 4g chip in so they're still making a significant profit right now not as much as they did on the previous generation but they're still making money okay so you know it just it just tends to make that's what upsets me I'm not saying they don't put out great products you don't want to own it's just very annoying that what you know when people are waiting for the to that thing on the retinas going to be in there thinking that like everybody thought the 4s is going to be the 5 and you just don't get it the next year you get 25 that's what's frustrating what people expect something you dangle it like it's going to be that and you give them something else right totally pumped Sri they didn't put Syrian this one why not yeah you know I'm sorry good no no I'll i like to hear what you're here i don't necessarily disagree i think the biggest sort of let down was perhaps the iphone 4s announcement more so than the ipad right Newt the new iPad ok so then he goes on about the 5 megapixel camera says that's still usable even though it's you know like taking a picture with a book great I stabilization given that look I'm not I I and I came and said that the camera in the 4s is the best cell phone camera out there and now it's almost all of it is in the iPad yeah still not okay though yes it does it could have been in the other one and it could have been you know and it's not okay because it's not practical people don't want to take can't put all photos with a tablet it's silly right have it for skype you have it for stuff like that I space or things like FaceTime yeah exactly exactly my resolution so he goes on and says well we're the only daily podcast we should be unbiased well guess what the real world doesn't work like that okay don't get me wrong I say we never claimed to be unbiased I and I think I'm and look I don't you know like to brag about anything something that yeah I consider myself one of the most indifferent unbiased bats that's what our job is here right we have to be completely indifferent no biased but and I think we maintain that Apple isn't the the end all you know Messiah also not the official cell phone reviewers of scenic tours we have so of course would be limit by space on the products that we personally owned you know I have an iPad well thing is what a lot of people feel understand is also we come at it from their perspective as well how many people want to go out and I have a 64 gigabyte ipad with me right now Wi-Fi how many people want to go out every year and drop seven hundred dollars right you just don't want to do it so of course you're gonna get upset because these are features that aren't new porgy is not new right though it's not as fast as it should be it's not new and they make you wait and they make you wait and they like to him I gotta gotta 4g if I waited here but no but the two was great i should have got and that's where the anger comes towards it because yeah an annual upgrade and it's not an expensive one and it's not necessarily a want I mean she's not necessarily need it's a one I think a lot of people also have a tough time waiting two years to buy an ipad I think there's like this psychological a sort of thing that Apple is able to do to people in this office included that they don't care right they have to do with their there's some sort of synapse that triggers in their brain that says you know what this is the new thing I just spent over and paid 700 bucks last year because I got don't get me wrong you sell your ipad back you make some of the money back but again that you're never netting you're never netting you never even telling people that just because this new ipad came out last week doesn't mean that your ipad 2 and who I a pre a week prior doesn't mean that thing's a piece of garbage now no I this weekend uh I was after my brother's birthday I had half a dozen people do I get the new one and I said look if you're paying for it and you want the most bang out of your book I'm telling people get the two if you do i'd say you shouldn't even get and I the new iPad if you still have the first one if you have an iPhone 4s you know like this that's that's a peasant that's like a point I said Maya my scheme is I'm just going even 246 number 2 i'll go for i'll go sickles the floral the floral have the retina it'll have an even better camera right and that's when I and that's and they'll have apps ideal for the three by then share the new iPad which will run smoothly on the force that what we call the new to old Apple to you for free we was talking about the 4g right before juicing brings up yeah last week we're talking about how 15.1 rolled out the day after the keynote a lot of people started seeing 4g pop up next to the bars on their iphone 4s which is definitely not running 4G LTE that's still in the hspa+ brain that that to me is deceptive and obviously the next one is I'm gonna assume is going to come out with official 4G LTE it's deceptive but it's not right now so why does it say it we are taking a bigger issue with with the industry right nomenclature torn or one the industry's nomenclature and to the arguable fact that Apple's appears to be taking advantage of like right you know I mean I don't of what and that's another that's another good point to bring up I mean and let's take a look at this from an apple perspective Apple wouldn't would never really given they shouldn't have a 4g product out I think that was like one of the things that uses a seller because apples not known for putting something out until it's vastly available right you know first iPhone was edged it wasn't even 3g sure then the next one was 3g three is so forth so to even see one with 4g in it it's kind of Apple saying hey come on we gotta we gotta entice these people to buy this product right cuz 4g is not widely available every just came to New York last year exactly well you know it is not in I think that you're talking about only right now and verizon AT&T right so who knows where what small areas are small markets even have 4g I just I hate misleading I hate I hate companies who mislead and and do it deliberately yeah you they're doing it with the 4g thing popping up to the layperson they're like oh my god my phone's faster now right and I need to get most people don't know the specific speed differences betray or exactly regular friend I'm kind of getting sick of these Syrians was like this couple traveling traveling from New York to California yeah and it's like Oh what do you do you think there's a gets thing like the guy that learns to be a rock right there cutting things short me rock are tightening that whole sequence they're tightening that have you noticed that yeah they definitely are taking steps out of that entire process that so yeah so that's that's the next question now so there's no sirree in the ipad or the new ipad will it be in the fourth one I mean that's tough and that's something that will make and then you know next year if we have this discussion that something will bash it on again because so we'll say why wasn't Siri in the third generation and it had to be held over to the fourth yeah I mean you're the camera in the fourth well sure you're right call me a rock god Jessica I just learned to play one song right he's not a rock he's a pop-rock guys like okay I'll call you rock you know there's an app within the app store you can download in the iphone on any generation iphone even the ipad called EV it sounds like Siri you can ask it questions to it goes to a different server and it responds evi it works just as well 99 cents no it's not it's not see rebut it's like Siri okay for those who desperately want their device to talk back to them right so we're talking back I do like the fact that the listener criticized for sure voices opinions about what we think on the show and it you know a lot I don't expect everybody to agree with this but I like that people will call in and call us out yeah Usher casa I hope he doesn't unsubscribe because of that cuz I know he's been with us for a while yeah he was he was he's just a little hot right he threatened I think he says but that's a good but you bad no but that lets you know how and bias you guys are because you asked for sure is what you could have been buried and never had right ready played it are we legless tripod is that what he called us he called us a two-legged stool I've sat on plenty of two-legged stools with no problem whatsoever r in many a unicycle very comfortably it works fine lunar cycles are the best yeah arguably the best really a biped yeah that's a real a bike we got to get out of here Justin as an iphone you have an iPad have an ipad how can we not exactly got a third leg we're a big thanks to our good buddy the very skinny Joseph Kaminsky half a fat boy thanks for being here dear always a pleasure when you hear keep doing whatever you're doing which is not playing video games yes I like that we'll be back we have a lot of guests to talk about this week also congrats to our winners of the Nintendo 3ds giveaway contest you will be contacted on the Twitter yes alright so thanks for taking part of that and we will be back tomorrow give us a call eight six six four for Cena or leave us an email the 404 at CNN com we'll see you on Tuesday I'm Jeff Bakalar I'm Joseph kaminski and I'm Justin you it's a 404 high-tech lowbrow thanks again for tuning in we'll see you bright and early at twelve noon tomorrow my fingers are sticky