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it stars they marched 15 2012 you tuned in to the 404 show here on CNN TV I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm trusting you and this is the show where we go bump in the night damn skippy show us yours it's more zombie talk than anyone can handle we'll get to all that on today's show big big big show today a lot of fun lot of great stories we're going to be talking about pretty much everything the internet can handle the ipad reviews are out yeah along with some interesting i guess interesting is one way to put it what's that about how everyone feels about this thing I mean it's really tough to sort of predict yeah what kind of reviews this this new machine would get so should we just get right into it yeah if you want it if you want to get right might as well right I mean they all came out yesterday they did 15 reviews all not review a lot of them are really really long to like did you read the Verge's review ah no it was too long to 10 pages is like the ultimate toi it's a lot to read yeah well it's funny to me though from reading all these different reviews is that people really do have to find even the smallest criticisms to knock apple down just a little bit and I think it's at a fear of being labeled as an apple fanboy you know if you give an hour a project really positive review without saying anything bad about it will automatically assume that you're giving favor to Apple but don't you but don't you sort of uh like for example how do you think there should be criticism it should be but not know about the criticisms that these people are giving yeah okay so do me an exam because I'm curious I want to hear what you're talking about okay so for example David Pogue in the New York Times yep venerated tech review ensure it big big ton guy yeah so uh he one of his complaints is that the ipad this is a quote he says the ipad is one millimeter thicker when one point eight ounces heavier than the ipad 2 and he goes on to say that although that's a minor detail it's still very unfortunate disappointing and just to hear somebody complain about a device being literally a millimeter like I can't even make a millimeter with my two fingers a milliliter 128 ounces heavier yeah a millimeter like don't if you're crying over millimeter yeah just just get lost yeah that's it doesn't sound like that's what that's not like his deal breaker right it's almost as if he's feeding Louis CK lines from stand-up comedy haha you know anything for sure this is basically writing the joke itself yeah that is a little bit irritating um some of them I don't know it makes sense that people will complain about the longer battery charge times oh I didn't know that yeah so apparently the battery is bigger on this one and that's the power of the retina display right for this one is I think 42 watt hours versus 25 watt hours on the ipad 2 Wow so it does take a couple hours longer to charge than he that is a big deal because I was always very impressed with how quickly the ipad 2 charges how long does it normally take it feels like maybe two to three hours oh really yeah yes this will be more of an overnight type charge I want to bring up Josh T'Pol skis review and the verge we talked about it for a second how insanely long it is yeah um it's it's a really long sort of thing to say but there's one line that sort of like stood out and I was just I read and I was like all right that doesn't make sense okay he said quote 50 years from now the ipad won't look out of place okay what do you think about that I'm I'm wondering is there anything else that existed 50 years ago that would look out of place now yeah i think there's literally nothing that i can think like there's not one besides maybe he began a slice of prey yeah you know odd though even that there is much smaller bag I feel like now they look cooler right yeah yeah what what does that mean 50 like okay if you said 10 I give him the benefit of all right 10 we don't know but 50 especially in the world of tech where things evolve at such an accelerated rate okay so he's talking about the design I understand EA juices out dieter Rams like you know and talks about the old Braun products Brett Jonathan I was inspired right yet one let's a little bit of context so that makes sense uh he's talking about the cyclical nature of design and how current design is draw inspiration from the old but makes sense to me I get in but not in the context of specifically the ipad and its aesthetic right you know what i mean right writing something like it looks like oh that thing dude 50 years from now people beginning to use that startech you know right it's weird and you can also look at something like the ipod one the first generation ipod looks giant it's a brick compared to what and that's right now ten years old that's ten years old no one could have ever predicted that there would be any moving parts on the scroll dial anymore right like 10 years right that looks archaic to me now or the red LED lights on uh the ipod to write radicular diculous why would not nothing would have that but what is the ipad get this free pass I don't know um anyway that's just a little tidbit out of this huge review go read it for yourself if you'd like but yet the reviews are in and unshackle a everyone's in love with this thing everyone's really in love with it I think out of the one complaint everyone has that on the verizon version you can't do facetime over uh their network you have to jump onto a Wi-Fi network to do that right um which was the case on the original as well that was the case on my phone when they announced right in the ipad 2 right right right so all right i mean i don't know i still think you've got to be crazy to buy that LTE version why I just think if if you're so desperate for LTE why not get a phone with LTE right pay that little bit extra money on your phones plan to make it a hot spot because then you have a hot spot for your phone and your and your iPad right I know verizon will be offering that hotspot feature on the iPad but why not just keep it on your phone why do you need uh why would you need to make a hot spot on your iPad that's a Dean I think that's a good point I mean the good thing about that though is how long the battery lasts on the ipad right if you make that a hotspot you proud you will get more uptime on your hotspot then you will if you had it as your phone right i think the problems that people just have too many devices nowadays yeah you're creating one hot spot to browse faster on another device right doesn't really make sense yeah it's it's strange but nevertheless those are the UH those are the reviews that are coming out today if you want to get like a very uh concise sort of uh logically laid out breakdown of all of these head on over to sina com josh lowensohn right he did it he did a bang-up job of uh right up sort of q reading all these iPad reviews I think the consensus is that if you already have an ipad 2 like we've said in the past you probably don't have a big incentive to pick up the new one right that being said though apple just announced that they will offer gift cards in exchange for your ipad 2 for up to 320 bucks granted that's for the 64 gig 3g or so you can trade in but they have a reuse and recycling program so check this out here um seen i just publish this article this morning and for the ipad to the basic 16 gig Wi-Fi model you can get two hundred and five bucks for it which is about the going rate if you were to use a site like gazelle or even ebay you know a little bit more on EV I think you're gonna get more on ebay well that's just by nature of the auction process yeah but that's interesting that's I think it's a really good deal that'll put you well into the cost of a new one yeah um or just buy you know what just buy a refurbished ipad 2 I think that's going for 300 350 350 on the apple store no one's gonna blame you great now yeah and you know the reason is 500 bucks I feel like the whole status symbol thing is moot this generation well that's because it doesn't look any different exactly make it higher class exactly so there was that whole thing were like oh I can tell you've got the first iPad yeah your clunky piece car you know just I'd be interested to know if it is really no way of actually calculating yeah but if the sales were affected by the lack of a hardware does I would say no but I just don't think based on that principle that people can't show off their new product by uh because it doesn't look any different right right no yeah it's possible like you said no way to tell are not gonna spend too much time in the ipad check out sina com we've got a lot more information about that here's a cool story we're talking about this energy monitoring app yeah basically what it does is and it's called flux ohmmeter yeah what it does is it's able to shore Dom eter looks flux ohmmeter sounds it's me from the world of acne is not doing such a more flex ometer there's no there's no dashes alright yeah man I can't breathe I can't read look so meter fuck cell meter get out like a thermo meter right with this third me here I do I was a reading it like whatever it's not a real word measurement chlorine it's not a frickin real word uh using a hundred twenty dollar device that's how much the flux ometer costs right uh basically connects to your fuse box and can wirelessly report to you how much energy your home is using yeah this is cool so they have an Android app and uh you have a compatible phone it'll basically broadcast you detail information about spikes in your energy use to warn you about like an impending energy bill but uh so father in Australia bought into the flux ometer and he uses the app he actually used it to bust his daughter's house party which i think is really really cool yeah and basically he was out at dinner and he noticed a big spike in the energy of youth of that night which was weird because he thought nobody was home was just his daughter right and he what is she do it yet so you notice that the air conditioner this was in the summertime right knows that the air conditioner uh was being turned on a full blast for hours at a time multiple lights were being used in the house and the television was running all at the same time yeah and he's kind of wondering what was going on with that and so he dialed in to the video monitoring app that he has his house yeah and saw that his daughter was throwing a house party yes busted okay um now this is I guess a little too big brother II but did the daughter not know that daddy's got his ear attached to not only the wattage usage in your house but also a freakin live feed of what's going on in there um I'd probably yeah that's that sounds like the case to me it's called wire Clippers do a little snippet e stick yeah all those laws yeah but no daughter's going to be asking their fathers about how they monitor their energy consumption the house though yeah that seems like a logical loop that one day I could see getting by but the whole video monitoring come on don't like that we had it I think we were the last generation be able to take advantage of our parents tech ignorance yeah oh yeah oh yeah I could do whatever I wanted I downloaded all kinds of filthy stuff and hid them within one subfolder no way she could tell that and no one would have any idol clue now all bets are off all she had to do was do a search in my on my pc for like star dot mov or lecture guard on TG that's it I would have been incriminated I mean if that's incriminating yeah I mean you're just a growing boy who can blame it I think of the you make a really good point we are the last free generation yeah we're the last generation that was able to just take advantage of our parents ignorance and not ignorance which is on education how are they supposed to know right they all coming out of the time is right we good you know it's almost like we're lucky that we had it during our preteen year I mean yeah just being able to have been exposed think about it though when we were six and seven there was none of that right you know so we we don't even have it as good as possibly a few generation a few years behind us right right right and just the advancements in surveillance online surveillance I think that is going to be really incriminating to a lot of kids what a lot of our co-workers are starting to have babies as well I sure our own rich brown just had a kid yes and he's a really tech savvy guy clearly he works at CNN he's an editor here so I mean his daughter's gonna have a hell of a time trying to hide her partying too sorry sweetie knocking outsmart me the party's over orchids seen it I think you're gonna get around me I work at see ya you can't sleep a Snooper no I'm gonna stall so many logs on my kids you can't snoop snoop no way how do you think invented all this it's true I am the internet kidding man shit you're gonna tell you want to go on the internet I am a damn Internet you're gonna wear a t-shirt that says that yeah I'm the Internet what now reload this man or maybe when we get older and our kids are grown up enough to try to test our internet savvy we'll just be out of the game you think at some point it'll go over our heads toward would be like I can't handle this like I'm a big I mean don't get me wrong there's there's a few cultural things that have already gone over my head but I'm kind of proud of that what do you mean just like you know little guy sort of like cultural phenomenons that are just stupid okay silly again action trend or that the don't man bands yeah that doesn't matter I'm not better off you know with that I'm better off without it yeah so I feel like those things will and have have and will continue to go over my head but in terms of your sort of ability to pick up on on technology I think because it was ingrained in us in such a young age right I feel like we have that advantage going forward you know unless you get some you know i J I just can't see it evolving to the point where it's just so it's just Greek to us yeah where it's just another language yeah yeah I mean it's anything I still think we're at the advantage because we grew up having to like code and and sort of worried about the back end things we know how these things work you just know how to use them oh man you think that iphones new I've installed 50 preloaded apps onto that thing that will track your every locate exactly everything you said I me transmitted you know we're we're steps ahead I feel like look you know you look at like anonymous in these people who who are arguably our age right the they're in their late twenties mid to late twenties whatever it is early thirties you know these people grew up with it right you feel like people coming up now or you do you know what I mean Richard you understand like there's a there's a certain cutoff where it's like okay you're just used to this you know how to use it right you don't know how it works I don't know maybe I'm generalizing well I for the bottom yeah right and our parents also didn't grow up in an age where it was really likely they would work for a tech company to I feel like all my friends right now exactly involved in one or another with startups with you know something to do with consumer tech I mean I'm don't get me wrong there's definitely our section of our generation will be represented in the ones that come behind us yeah and after us but what are some what if everything changes so much that our generation gets left behind don't say that Richard not gonna like you're talking crazy because well I didn't know like my parents are knew how to use a typewriter and I didn't know how to use that when I was a kid that's a good point and so they thought they were so far ahead of me yeah they're like look at Richard yeah doesn't even know how to put new pink ribbons on this typewriter yeah so maybe that will happen to us me what we leave behind ya little changed so much that the new generation we like oh we know more than our parents it's possible I can't wait my kids do that's another thing I'm really looking for real psyched about that yeah definitely all right let's let's take a break when we come back a lot more with the 404 stick around we will be back right after this this is the 404 Mr f'ers the show where we all sing songs here's the m16 lamp I made using a toy and 16 and an a leg lamp from ikea and i just wired it together and spray-paint it gold and put a lampshade from target on top and that's it voila here's the best part since it's a toy m16 the firing mechanism still works there you have it hey this is all mark from Syria and you're listening to the fluorophore to show where these guys have fans overseas oh yeah pretty awesome here's a question for you yeah what's up as I was watching that video we just watched a view of a woman narrating a project she had built as like a custom lamp yeah that's my rifle toy m16 do you think it's possible to tell to gauge the attractiveness of a person male or female based on their voice no not at all no but you do did you do that though you consumptions based on how their voice sounds or just suck what it look kick-ass simple as that yeah but do you know what I'm saying know like when you hear people's voices on the phone I feel like you sort of give them you know like a degree of attract it's 5050 bro no yeah it's its 55th yeah I mean there's no way to tell right a sexy voice does not denote sexy appearance right like phone sex operators a lot of times or sound hot yeah I'm sure I'm sure all the attractive and gorgeous women are going into cubicles and talking to you that's how it works don't ruin this for me Jeff I see it she's a little dose of reality would be a good everything on there oh man did I just burst your bubble yeah there's a big bubble it's all over the place Oh disgusting we're back on the 404 no no what to talk about I wonder what assumptions our listeners make about the way we look based on the sounds will always have you ever had a meet up at a meetup someone come up came up to you and was like I've ever seen you you're insanely ugly yeah you're the ugliest thing no I have gotten that before what did they say they're like you look exactly the way I said you sound a lot shorter yeah like oh my god I can't believe how tall you are yeah your voice indicated someone a very short session I want to hear from our listener means this is very vain but I want to know what they thought that we look like well buddy how do you guys think we look like yeah I don't know man if you think your voice matches the way that you look I mean I think it does you kind of have like a gruff how you can't say that cuz you're you're in it you're cut your your whole perception is yeah but you don't sound like a little like wood sprite e of a guy you know like you sound like kind of like gruff and you have a beard and you do have one does this make sense I guess I didn't always have this beard and I sounded the same then so what week so what see the second I also heard what's up yeah before I was like yeah hey I'm Jeff back alive welcome to see that yeah oh boy all right uh what else we got going on today ooh here's something I'm excited about uh and this is right up your alley because we're talking at once again about the concept printers and how they literally change our lives right what is a laser unprinted what's an unprinted getting redic is this something that just spits out like wood that's the only thing I can think of odd so in an effort to reduce the environmental footprint of uh you know corporate offices that print a lot of photos sure documents right this uh study at a Cambridge University these researchers have created a laser on printer that's a device that actually takes laser toner off of used paper I'll do that with lasers with lace yeah like I did I trash it to you well that Lee's lasers I said check it's almost like a doctor evil sort of yeah sort of yeah um go on that could sound like El Guapo for a second three amigos uh if I know that it didn't really go into a lot more detail other than the fact that it uses lasers to remove lasers off laser printed paper I use that word in this article yeah and I'm not quite sure about the technology either but I thought it was a clever way the sort of reuse paper right so a lot of times people just flip over a sheet and use like an auto document feeder on their printer but automatically flip that over but now you can just literally take it off and reuse all the documents you want if you're printing something is trivially is like an article or like an email or so i guess the concept of like reusing the same sheet of paper over and over again is a good idea because how often are you printing out something that you need more that you need to keep around right I for one time use you could make very good use of this concept because apron rain forest oh you could are you kidding there be a whole country of kids who be could eat this is what Justin prints out every day 440 for this I mean he pretty but you print out it's a little crazy to me that you print out the day's stories yeah but I'm like oh you're like old school I need to waste no I mean I need show us you could show us you have enough there to show us yeah look at that I mean I'm like covered in that's from one day this is just 2012 all the stories we've talked about today what I don't know that we actually script out the entire 40 4 episode there it read it off these sheets of paper that down to about 10 pages that's what we deal with every day how how long of a period of time would you say that massive stack and we're talking we're not talking for people who are just listening to us yet that's like a book right there that's like a big healthy book wall like okay so this little behind the scenes of the 404 but um so every day I read all the articles and source them online and then I summarize them for myself on these notepads right all right I'll I pretty much just write out the key points that I want to say right because there's so many stories that we talk about every year that I can show how long how many shows is one this is one sheet / show right this is just like also summer those are all one offs so you got about 400 shows right there so yeah this is probably about that much a couple hundred does maybe like three four months let's blow my Mon dude yeah it's balm I'm on it's better than before before I would print out every article and just highlight the key points this is actually saving paper yeah you're really you know an environmentalist over there Greenpeace reincarnating you know personified right here get out of here uh Huffington Post has an article about the 15 most popular people on facebook these are celebrity pages with the most likes yeah let's scroll through a couple of these because I don't know this always blows my mind over what is popular on the Internet yeah these are the group pages like celebrity fan page right people could just hit like I mean when you start with number 15 already it's like really Avril Lavigne is number 15 what I thought was really interesting is that there's quite a bit of dead celebrities that are still being liked and followed right on this page for example like Bob Marley made it into the top 12 interesting so real quick 14 is uh Megan Fox who's this dude he's a soccer player Lionel Lionel Messi Leo Messi the I'd say of course he's got 33 million likes that's blows my mind yeah beyonce's number 12 number 11 Lil Wayne little Wayne by far the biggest uh can you sort of confusing things they gotta it's amazing it's like Little John is actually little Irish don't get it just don't get it nobody's email of little Wayne no music is good though yeah that's aI don't get it k people some people like to dance I like to dance too so there's this thing called like fun right people tend to do it on like the week sorry dude you cannot tell me that little Wayne is a big contributor you know my problem with him is is that he like picks up a guitar and pretends to play it yeah and then like smashes it yeah avril lavigne delegate to but you have posters for plaster all around all how how dare you know they're they're the same person as far as I'm concerned k yeah puppets let's let's move on here go on cuz I like little Wayne Akon of course 36 million likes yeah makes sense so here it is Bob Marley may never know somebody talented what do you know yeah wait are you sarcastic no I really did Marley's amazing ja yeah uh Katy Perry 40 million give me a break she hot and then another soccer player Ronaldo some reason yeah dude you don't know Cristiano Ronaldo I don't know Chris morena although i do know justin bieber though i was surprised about this he only made number six on the list with 40 1.3 million yeah i thought it would have been number one apparently kids don't have the clicking powers they did before I guess not they're all too busy voting on American Idol it almost face he does number five MJ Michael Jackson yeah okay number four shakira she looks weird she's a little strange in that photo number three lady gaga chorus again yeah god forbid someone talented is on the Lillian hmm that's awesome she deserves it Rihanna number 253 million no surprise there and number one Eminem still has 56 million likes bit of a shocker to me that's really surprising I'm a little shocked at that yeah how come Barack Obama though doesn't I mean I hate to be that guy that's like well you know is it all the celebrities it's a weird that mm probably has more likes on his Facebook page then people who voted in the last election yeah is really upset that's probably accurate right like what's the percentage of people that vote in this country to their credit is a lot easier to click one button online that it is to go to the voting would you say to their credit or let's just say it's easier is easier yeah there you go it's easier there's no credit being given to someone who votes on a on a Facebook right um dia that's super depressing what about your Facebook page have you liked any celebrities oh no not maybe a couple like TV shows right you know yeah sons of anarchy that that deal yeah now go out of my way to help out like things are really like I guess or like your friends bands and stuff yeah sure of course what the hell speaking of things you like and can help out things that you like new a thing on Kickstarter that I wanted to to bring attention to I have it here in the rundown it's called juice tank okay and this is brand-new it's out today uh this actually seems really cool and inventive it's an iphone case that has the electrical plugs built in to the casing wait what so if you are you're watching the video you see the two prongs and come up BAM you just pop it into the outlet directly from not feel right to me now right like the 21 is more do that really it's really smart yeah um it's called juice tank it's already gotten a pledge of two thousand sixty dollars from 39 backers with 59 days to go there looking for a hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars I think they're gonna do it yeah this is really smart it's smart I hope they make it for every phone out there I think it's going to be easier to do it on something like iPhone because it's that standardized port one size fits all um you know I would really love for them to to break out and do it on other things can we sort of like come up with possibly any way that it would like not work I mean this sort of seems foolproof right yeah it's a smart thing I guess I guess the only thing is like well there's outlets that are maybe like hidden behind couches and you're just going to hang out behind a couch at the same time though think about all the pros of that situation like oh I let's say you use your phone as an alarm clock and bam it's just like in it's just there you know you don't have to like yeah bitch around all things that are right next to their head I'm just saying maybe it'll force you have to get up and go turn it off yeah I don't know what do you think that I think this is smart I think if it's just nice to see someone sort of thinking progressively his to detriment seriously I feel like a lot of times people have outlets covered by furniture or you know there's not always an open al accessibility accessibility is an issue like your alarm clock point I don't know people are gonna be willing to just stick it down below their bed right the other thing is that doesn't look like you can plug this into an existing outlet that has another device plugged into the top outlet different like the outlet on the case isn't low enough on the case to allow wait let's go back is there a photo of it actually plugged in because maybe we could have a better idea also uh it does not look like and I hope this is not the case but judging from these and these are prototypes we're looking at on the on the side here ok let's see here's a video of a plug in it I think it'll work yeah that'll work that'll be fine or you it would be upside down if you plug it into the bottom one doesn't look like there's room for the the IP iphone dock connector though Oh on the bottom yeah in the prototypes that they have here there is no you still need for the USB connection right of course but you still need so that's a little bit of a bummer uh but other than that I mean I really like if I an iphone I'm all over this and as long as we were doing this design I would have maybe liked a little bit of extra power in the case itself right you know mean something like a mophie juice pack built in that would pout that would recharge both the internal battery and an external attach the case do you think it has that I don't know they might have that I don't know it just came out I literally just got the president the press release so I wanted to put it up because I've never seen anything like it it's very smart the design is cool too because the prongs on the on the thing they don't just like slide out they come they sort of come from there like wings you know what I mean and they come in together looks like they have a micro USB port built into the back too oh yeah inside here there it is just plug in if you need to connect to your computer tonight so that's really cool they've they've seemingly thought of everything uh very cool it's called juice tank I'm I've never helped out a Kickstarter thing before yeah I have an iphone but if they made an 814 my galaxy nexus I'm all about it's gonna electrocute me when I plug it into a wall socket yeah that's the only thing because people aren't exactly like the problems are protected by anything so if you get rain water on it and you know I god forbid you drop this case in a toilet or something on a drunken night next time you plug it into the elect into the outlet that might give you look shocked that's Eli's don't worry about that let's not worry about that part of the the story or just cyan't you're just saying no that's a that's a valid concern uh maybe we can get in touch with these guys and ask them ourselves uh it's about that time calls from the public time to show the love a jig 6404 scenic i tell you in zombies all you gotta do is talk about zombies and people will call ya alright if you create crave brains they will come that's the motto for the show today aids burns the only want brains up during yesterday's pre-show and a little bit today we're talking about the walking dead talking about what would you do in a zombie apocalypse right also the fact that you don't see any naked zombies yeah there's not a lot of zooms in za indian world of its own no than liya not a lot of tegel cities no but and I think this this stem from my frustration with the fact that a rigid it's cracking this is laughing so loving it he's just like he's chucking away beings are ya this stemmed with my frustration in the fact that amc's walking dead is arguably the most gruesome show on television right they had a scene where they showed a dude taking a frickin shovel to a zombies skull and it's freaking zombie brains just splitting out without any cutting with that any you no way to hide any of the gore they showed a zombie literally pulling apart a human gammak like you know showing hey Dom be gone but human gore I still think the zombie gore even though it's science fiction it's still pretty intense right like it's not like alien gore you mean right like you like if a little kids watching that I'm crying and never going to bed ever again my point was why it can we show that but then a very nice love scene between Glenn and Maggie they go out of their way to hide her breasteses well where are our priorities in this in this world that we have been I mean do you like and I'm not saying who've just good we'll see some boobs it does it's not what I mean I just don't like no I don't like how things are just so out of whack right you don't mean but ok so by that principle then we should be showing all kinds of things you want to see like male full frontal as long as we're talking about that yeah you know and then we draw the line you don't draw the line drive to draw a line at you're talking about a zombie universe and there's violence involved already so might as well show that violent sure you don't love doesn't mean you have to have a gratuitous shot of boobs it's not on that i'm not i am the kind of guy they'd love to see you know like Maggie's a beautiful woman sure of course and to bring course I want glinting you know do that too bright on behalf of the Asian but you know does that have to do with the story and do they need to show that I am do they have nudity on AMC no clearly yeah regardless so all these zombies with their freaking frayed clothing and all there there's not one naked zombie walking around right unrealistic yeah at some point there would have been a zombie there was like oh I got caught on a bush yeah well my clothes are gone like wander into a dressing room or something all perfectly clothes even though zombies that are like half alive half a body hmm yeah what does he zombies like in bikinis and like you know like boxers somebody had been swimming so I had been at the beach like in really compromising positions grounds here right at the zombie Ground Zero there had have been some people dressing provocatively right I'm saying right right all I'm saying keep it real I don't know where we went with this but he had Collin go and talk about talk to us about what kind of weapons they would be bringing mmm you seen it Jason from san mateo you guys had a late show yesterday what the heck zombie apocalypse oh okay i guess i could see why you're a little bit like little late anyways in more or less serious tone projectile weapons no good I must have reusable like crossbows like Justin said hockey stick with a blade you'd make Casey Jones very proud no no yeah yeah I guess who would you bring along with you if you had a zombie apocalypse I was talking my co-workers about it and one of them said Matthew wise to have a farmer along with you another lease guys were like you know keeping the peace I guess yeah he makes a good point and you've that sort of trend is coming up in modern zombie tales like what arc types would you bring you know everyone's got like a class right you know what I mean it's like oh you're the former you're the police guy you're this and that you got to keep order this yadda yadda yadda so yeah good points we appreciate the day we need podcasters in the zombie apocalypse think they would use us as bait yeah there'd be like put the bug dressers in the tray with in Chinese food so is that Justin Hugo terrible we were also complaining yesterday about the lack of intelligent zombies here's a call to help us out Josh you guys are talking about intelligent zombied I saw this movie that you might find interesting it's called zombies anonymous available on netflix answer place it's about a society where zombies are intelligent and integrating the precise they walk and talk just like humans they get the wrong me from the supermarket they even have job movies about a girl will God accidentally killed alright what I don't want to spoil what this the movies about but yeah I would check that out yeah that sounds pretty cool uh I remember our late podcast co-host he who shall not be named he's not dead call him Lord w uh Lord dubby Lord Voldemort I have listened all W um he told me about some really messed up zombie oh my god I know what you're talking about look I don't want I don't want bringing I'm not gonna talk about what about but everyone should go check it out it's called dead girl no everyone should not go check it now you should it's a very different take oh oh oh yeah it kind of has to do with the zombie nudity we were talking about earlier oh fuck don't read the summary on IMDb dead girl it's messed up it is messed up viewer discretion advised date movie though ah let's do this hey guys what's going on what on beach from the shot he'll just want to reference yesterday's talking about zombies and if they would ever be smarter there's actually movie I think you guys should check out it George Romero's land of the dead of course they actually have some evolves on me bitch I don't want to spoil it for everybody but if you had a chance take a look at some clips on it and you apply be impressed but uh how do you guys involved for everything yeah he um he's obviously credited with like the fuck being the father of zombies all right um definitely check that out land of the dead is a classic still holds up still effing scary yeah it's interesting that in a world of all zombies you would imagine they would evolve and they would be able to become smarter just the way you know if nature created them the right sure would have them evolve um finally with the zombie talk we'll finish with this guy what stop for four guys Matt this is Colorado Springs from ah that's right I'm going rope I'm starting a new trend yeah that was bad comments you guys about your zombie apocalypse talked yesterday what a great topic I myself very huge huge zombie apocalypse sent I think it could just be insight into what a lawless world would be like shares our current society is so law-abiding a law stricken it gives us that chance to kind of imagine what life would be like without rules and running around with guns shipping dead people in the head yeah but you know what'd be fun well not on schematic and you love that I want to give you guys like top three zombie apocalypse weapons number one a silenced sniper rifle no silence why is y0 right you need to get some distance to destroy Tommy's without attracting any noise unless of course those zombies are def like Jeff depression dresses are not silenced sniper rifle number two if you do happen to get any close contact with a zombie as Jeff had said also hockey stick with a blade attached to you know this head set zombies that sick and number three would be a crossbow or close medium-range you need you need those refillable sort of Ron ammunition weapons right those are actually three great weapons you need one long-distance sniper rifle I just plays a lot of video games I really like that but you know when you talk about the blades you want to use on those weapons you gotta think they can't be big ones right because those get stuck in these our brains really easily you can't just pull it out for another hit it so that's what I think honestly I think that a bat like an aluminum bat yeah real lightweight with uh you know some like cordage around the bottom for every wire and some barbed wire or like maybe a couple nails that you can quickly pull out but I would still do serious damage does anybody the best for sure yeah all right let us know what you think internet 866 404 cnet the zombie discussion will never end don't forget that you're gonna expend a lot of energy on the edge of those hits to see you want something that you can pull back up on those men hit again really quick you know it's been Gatorade when you're pillaging that lucky absolutely cuz ain't gonna make any more of that once the zombies take care thanks to Richard for being here today on the ones and twos or what you do a lightsaber would be sick yes such a dream is saying but let's talk about real thing yeah what we're talking about zombies it there you go uh a c64 for CNN if you want to email us that's cool the 404 at cnet com we will be back tomorrow with Ella Morton will be on the program yeah very lovely woman will have a lot of fun with her and if you want to reach out there please do and we'll get that message right overturn or question all right that's going to do it for us today we'll see you tomorrow I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm Justin you it's the 404 high-tech lowbrow have a great 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