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it's Wednesday March 21st 2012 you've tuned into the 404 show on CNN TV I'm Jeff Bakalar I'm Justin you and this is the show where we take Katie linendoll to sleepaway camp excited on the program today Katie linendoll in the studio what's up how are you to be here you are I see that thank you so much for being here we know you're very busy these past couple weeks you've got a lot going on and you've taken some time out of your schedule for us yeah it means a lot there's two very big things that I was very excited about what oh hey she came in early which i think is always early always early I respect the hell out of that I really do number two she brought us gifts you guys dude totes brought give that never happened thanks Anna tech Santa yeah it's amazing you really are are we gonna do the gifts me right now yeah dude right what is wrapping paper by the way can I hold on to this after for sure to keep the rapidly so so Katie brought us gifts for people who are just listening to us and no one's ever really done that like Jill got us some stuff right I was nice for a thousands of we do a thousand episodes to get a gift though yeah I mean what we have Katie on once she comes bearing gifts what's amazing about this is that uh you know this is totally unsolicited we weren't like you know k to be nice hey bro commented a be kind of cool no she comes she's like I'm bringing gifts this is happening so thank you summer I'm gonna preface the whole thing and say thank you for sure preemptive thank you for sure uh so alright how are we gonna divvy these let's get down to brass you've got the iphone yes I do okay so I brought you something from the show ok spike show which we'll be talking yes we will this this is actually working out well because I actually brought this specifically for you oman you know compressor to yeah every time it would be really talk if we was like sitting there and I'm like oh you guys got presents you'd for cheap yes and you got Richard and old LP or something now I'm kidding alright so let's let's cut through the old crab cake remix let's open this up I'm the second binary wrapping paper yeah oh my and you said where'd you get this from the wrapping papers from thinkI obviously all right what what oh you are serious first I just get an r2d2 little grab his handles what what is on the side oh my god this is Miss my grab a squeeze his legs Oh squeeze his leg yeah yeah oh shut up this is happening what's happening we have a new best friend this is fantastic it's as cool as I'm a rocket launcher yes this is also a this was featured on our show recently i'm spike and it's an eighty dollar missile launcher let me tell you something it's incredibly durable it shoots for missiles up to 25 feet it's charged for you so all you have to do is download the free app that is so cool and it runs on bluetooth you can control it with your are we gotta do is join the breaker so get that set up this is dude Katie you're amazing thank you so much Oh Richard would you get you I got this angry birds game I mean but you know what it's a cookbook yeah oh my god so it's just like eggs and bacon is it is that that's amazing it's so cool and a mega man dream whoa is pretty rad many men energy drink you'd be like fire in dust man's forget it oh good man don't want arena with sugars in that yes seriously wow that you are amazing your this is so cool thank you so much what look I think I'm never gonna get old wow that's amazing um okay how are we gonna follow up now yeah show's over is it alright well Katie uh you come bearing gifts let's talk about what's going on in your life right now you were the host of spike tv's brand new program all access weekly Mary tell us all about this this program because this sounds pretty freaking awesome yeah I've had a I've had a long journey yeah jack for sure and it's been pretty interesting and recently with this new spike show so the spike show is called all access weekly okay there's thursday at mid 8th starting tomorrow so tomorrow night at midnight set your DVRs or you're going to be home anyway watch it live why don't you let's oh here's the website on spike.com yeah we'll have a brand new site up probably within it might actually be long hey there you are after she need the host let's meet nose alright that's 60 congrats on that yeah we cover all things video games tech innovations and comic books sweet it's like again a drinking and what we were wrapped around three big events here so CES comic-con and III okay our flagship shows right we cover those the entire span while live for like 4 to 8 hours a day it's awesome and then weekly you know my focus is really on bringing exclusives which is what I've done on the CNN and CBS side of my past so first looks awesome gadgets little roundups we even have some like game games in there for the audience there's live audience and we tape out of get this i feel like my whole career is coming full circle my childhood we tape out of the TR else to do we have a brand new set in there this is under the Viacom umbrella right so it's awesome so a lot of fun a lot in a live audience so there's like carson daly's little footprints when you walk in bats let's freakin rat very cool you can you can see people holding their posters down on OA give me an r2d2 I totally do lots of giveaways like I get a lot of audience interaction it's a lot of fun and the guests already have been because you have such a wide range like for video games to comics to tech in itself yeah I mean we were doing stuff with Stanley we have Joe Kelly from who's created the new Superman ultimate fighter I'm sorry the new ultimate spider-man he's worked on x-men and spider-man on the comic books ID and shin and Elizabeth's on our next show next week so like it's really wide range of guests but like all very interesting for sure that's really cool I love awesome guest right I love Austin all the difference for sure not clearly look what's happening now and everybody's a geek now so you can pretty much have anyone you want on the show you were telling us before we started today that you have a very geeky past which i think is awesome yeah I want to hear more about your geeky past like catches up to speed we're how did Katie get here I've been a nerd my whole life yeah so I had my networking certs at 17 oh really it was actually really bad so like in high school like all my friends were like you know in glass blowing class and like cheerleading squad I was like on the civil war club electrical wiring hurting my network soldering you know and I was just like I'm just doing my face yeah always been involved in more of the hardware side for sure and I got my degree in IT new media from Rochester has to technology was big into coding I can still heavily code really you still do that now it's hard because I've moved so consumer-focused she's like I say now it's a full-time job and you know this to stay on top of Technology and all the sites like forget it yeah just in the consumer world alone full time job but yeah I second code and go kick it I'm impressed me although the chat room is freaking out right now I think they just want the camera on you full time with you it's gonna do that MIT we have to forgive us our chat room is you know they they're a little aggressive that's why we you know have limited access to areas can't you know will will censor that whole thing your arm that's really cool what uh so you've done a lot of work with the other outlets before so I after school after I got my degree and IT I started working for ESPN 2 i've always been huge into sports in tech i might be a boy I don't know what's going no I'm pretty sure that's nice it's not cake but i'll have a lot of boys interest yeah so i started hosting a show on espn2 in New York and then from there I became fascinated with the production side of things so i went to ESPN headquarters in bristol connecticut right I worked with ESPN for four years I worked I toured with Sports Center all over the country it's awesome I was cutting highlights for berman on and if the live NFL primetime outside the lines on be a fast break baseball tonight I worked on all those shows yeah for years yeah um and then I went I kind of got the experience and needed watched learning from likes to Scott and Berman about what and what not to do on camera I knew that I had to work behind the scenes to get back on air right like learn from the best and then go back on air for sure so then eventually I worked after working for ESPN for 25 years I went and hosted a show on A&E called we mean business I did tech makeovers real I was kind of my parlay back here so how did that work I worked you Bill Rancic bill really honest Giuliana Rancic yeah news yeah he and I hosted a show on A&E it did really well was emmy-nominated what yeah he did all the business side I did all the tech side and then my friend Peter gursky did all the interior design so we went into some businesses did huge makeover and it was so interesting ease our for struggling companies that were you know trying to live this American Dream and a million dollars quarter million dollars in debt and we were trying to read I do is redoing all their technology and Dell was a sponsor of the show so I had access to anything that I needed that was an amazing experience from there at this is the crazy one in my career I went to HSN for two years I swear their story I one is their gadget girl and sold electronics and like they brought me in to do like a more softer entertainer e-type sell yeah and ice kid you not dirty let me tell you something let me lighten you with how the home shopping network works go on it's really hard what yeah five cameras you're somebody in your ear at all times yeah and you see this sign of when people are calling it in buying things I was selling everything for GPSS two TVs two routers to you name it cameras digital camcorders and you see when people are calling in and you have no script you your script is in your head yeah don't the dome you'd be like selling your soul out for like a new gateway computer it would be like four in the morning like sold five haha I mean it would be like for like what did I say to have somebody for children returned like somebody called back within the 30 said you know what this Katie persons time me no thank you exactly it was crazy to me so best on-camera experience ever all live I think there's any money's gonna fill to write a million dollars what a nice sauce something there I was run at my runway they call it a run rate i was making like twenty eight hundred dollars a minute whoa not me personally but you say they were selling that much while you were on air right and that was like an average so at last count so anyways from there i did that i was doing a nu back and forth then i went to CNN where I've been for last two and a half years for two to three days a week yes cover everything very vast from robotics did you know so do you know our buddy mark million I think I've never met him I think he did leave CNN yeah you see me there he was there for about two years yeah yeah the tech editor yeah he's very cool I always read a lot of good people but great people yes you know for sure CNN's to the early show for two years right a little late Burke is little here and they our own our own little CBS come they're very cool good dirty circle no and then the last stop on your road to success the forum where you hit rock bottom man that's awesome oh wow I feel like we don't need to read the book now yes I know every that's awesome this is really cool we got guess we got the whole story I'm very excited uh there's a few things you want to talk about today yeah and our little rundown let's get right into it Angry Birds Uub crutches that with the gift for us that was awesome angry birds space is on the horizon come in this week and uh it's interesting because actually had an astronaut preview the game yeah is that correct yeah i think it was uh Don Pettit he was like the nasa flight engineer that was too gimmicky I thought it was a little gimmicky but just to see the antigravity it's kind of cool really cool yeah i mean you didn't really make me want to play the game is thank you that's a great question though is it gimmicky are you were you see an astronaut yeah wrote isn't he supposed to discover the cure for science I got on a planet somewhere you should be busier than that yeah well uh so anyway whether i don't i feel like nasa has become one of these entities where they're just like so desperate for residence what did it deep through a mass effect up in space today yeah they did something like that too i think they did they launched it into space and whoever got it whenever kicking down all right i got it straight all right there really are we brainstorm with the next one is they have a good PR team though because i remember last year we talked about how they sent up their last consumer flight uh up into space their last shuttle i think this is something that will maybe get kids a little more excited about nasa put it in their heads whoa if you get more astronauts later in the future how did nasa screw this up though think about it every kid in kindergarten what do you wanna be when you grow up an astronaut would it be cool bet i don't know i want to be vodka you know they want to be a reality star yeah that's what it they want to be some sort of junkie that's not a lot of it uh yeah i don't i don't know how did they lose that how did they lose the pure imagination of a child right and now NASA is just sort of in the dumps blocking my mind more is that angry birds is still hugely popular that's what blew my mind yeah jeck turi was my namita because here Angry Birds I'm like isn't that a little played out yeah isn't everybody done with that Ashley it's on the up-and-up yeah 700 million downloads 6.5 million alone on Christmas Day that to me is mind-numbing and then I was showing you that angry birds cookbook yeah is a snapshot of the much bigger picture 200 licensees right movie set for 2014 an angry birds theme park so there is a movie coming there is a movie cut and they've actually tapped a lot of the Marvel crew so they got people behind it allegedly I'm not mad at the movie because i think the Angry Birds brand bake like once you give these guys voices you know it's gonna I hope it's you know funny people like make I don't know who to make up the red bull guy but I'm just saying like yeah you know what I'm said like they could do it good i feel like Jack Black's gonna be one of them will be like will be like the bong guy you know I mean I I just feel like insert real big celebrities into these and it'll work and then the pigs are led by like I don't know John Lithgow yeah you know I mean I don't know if the rovio brand has jumped the shark yeah yeah I did it definite I mean in terms of still growing like that that's the craziness that's I feel like part of jumping the shark is that jumping the shark while I feel like you and I we understand it to be like okay it's headed to run it's no longer cool but that's not for the rest of the world you know what I mean like the rest the world has yet to have their time there's also never been another iOS game I feel like the life cycle for those games are like they're so easily digestible that in another week you know something new is come out like words of friends that's gone awesome now it's drawn something you know like I'm surprised that angry birds has been out for so long it's are you gonna download it tomorrow he comes out right 20 20 seconds I can I think yeah cuz you said you got a new iPad I do have a new iPad and it's gonna look really pretty on that side hey who's busy pretty crispy on that HD yeah I don't know though I I don't know I think so there's new gameplay obviously with all zero gravity thing right oh I was reading this morning to that walmart if you purchase merchandise at walmart they'll give you little unlocks mmm exclusive to walmart oh my gosh so now you have two hundred licensees but now you're also pushing people to go to walmart to try to unlock levels uh it's but hey at the end of the day if you had an estimated worth of what 1.2 billion right no no for sure the proofs in the pudding let's be honest people people can't get enough these angry birds I remember we're at CS one year they had like an angry birds board game example ever met it resembled like mousetrap yeah that sort of deal I've also been seeing a lot of angry birds branded candy in Bodie around knew you guys seen that a little bodies what that's so crazy to me that it's expanded into all different markets it's unbelievable uh let's move along Airbnb your GV which we covered we covered a story from airbnb I was a four months ago over the guys that like trash that oh yeah this is last summer 2011 yeah so uh they buy crash patter its largest competitor in the UK what does this mean I mean you have experience with Airbnb I do have experience I again I think just in terms of trajectory I don't I was surprised at a consumer level and in talking with people that a lot of people still don't know what Airbnb it yeah I feel like I don't really have that much of a marketing uh did I don't know Brian said were they auctioned off their set for I think you guys all those women just rented it out slept there overnight big that's all they did they didn't have a party around an empire they literally just left there while the show was not doing this is poor decision yeah I'm not comfortable at all but I do feel like more and more people are starting to figure out what Airbnb is I kind of like hopes I mean by the numbers yeah yeah 192 countries frightened cities five million down of 5 million nights nights that's five million guest nights downloaded yeah that's our brains were sisters if it's not a tech buzz word I don't know that's not a 0 or a 1 4g LTE 3d that's all I know so what was your experience with there being but I actually like Airbnb but I actually like it for there's two things I like it for when i do on air segments i like to touch the quirky cuz you can rent at pretty cheap you can rent an island in fiji for 350 night oh there's a mushroom dome in california that i will mark my words be staying at ninety dollars a night it's nothing castles in ireland for like 300 400 at night castles all over yeah the quirky side of it like boats and that you can actually stay first day or a week or a month whatever you want to me is like that's an awesome officer like really cool if you're going on like a date or something whatever with your dude your girl whatever I like the quirky side of it but I've also used a deluxe I go back and forth from San Francisco like all the time yeah and i use it out there and it's actually worked out really well so i sublet a place um it's pretty cheap compared to a hotel the only thing it for me is like the downside is you have to check in and you're checking in with this random person that you don't know what you're up against right in like cha cha cha cha attention and I'm like a to be yeah I don't want to chat like never gonna see you again right just tell me where the shampoo is salad yeah also there so that's that's only downside to me it's like the pizza delivery guy want to like hang out for a little bit like my bid good party that is also that the per the host wants to know who's gonna be staying in their house with that stuff like it's kind of in the interview yeah well and I feel like that's where the profile comes in I like that there's profiles and reviews on both sides but i have to tell you the one time i was staying there and the chick calls me and she's like um PS i gotta come back i forgot something like three days in and I'm like okay hey lingo mean yeah this week this has been my place for 72 hours yeah no go like this is weird yeah so I yet I love the pluses but I also see the minuses yeah have you rented your apartment out to other absolutely not I feel like everyone's done to stay that someone else's but that was never I know people that are making like five g's a month yeah B&B so will your kiss oh yeah for sure yeah that makes George stop yeah so many gadgets like forget it I don't want anybody touching it and mess with my business I heard a lot of people made money in Austin last week dirty so I'm sorry I'm writing up their lines an Airbnb hell yeah I would literally have to glue everything to the floor take pictures of every solution that skeeves me out well you have 50,000 insurance as a host not as I got enough no no no it's not even the money for me it's like I don't want you need you touching my stuff on the OCD yeah sure you know junk in my junk well I'm in my bed yeah what you sleeping in my bed what you doing what you do I'm not yeah me to do in my bed my dungeon i layer touch my cup oh man oh man alright let's take a break when we come back more with katie we'll have a lot more fun a few calls perhaps more stories possibilities are truly endless more for for right after this this is the 404 mr f'ers the show where we all sing songs oh leanna welcome back to the 404 so I need a puppy you broke into the face so sad everybody did the same thing they're laughed and then they went oh oh but chief laughs first yes of course you yeah you can't not love you guys do the oh and that's gonna you know not to take any credit away from a dog but it's like what were you planning on doing little puppy you're gonna go headfirst into another dog I don't understand you know avoid the other dog at least Bakalar if it was a cat you would probably hope to die oh I don't I never really liked kick over there I like that I do not wish death upon any animal but sure I love animals but cats just like if they just disappeared you know harmlessly sort of evaporated into the atmosphere yeah the mouth partly so decree selfish man you met cats Tara hey that's hat if you died in your apartment your cat would eat you in a heartbeat giving catch that would be like sweet it be rubbing its paws together like mr. Byrne then I can't wait that's the Jeff you know that's how selfish cats are you know cuz my growing up and also mom allergic so that also you know soils the whole thing my aunt growing on my aunt had one and it was it's name was cat yeah like cool this is where all guys must be named yeah and this thing was just all the tide on't like that I don't like watching their tails they don't like touching yeah I'm thinking that my butter tastes so quick they don't care to too smart in their native I'm on nimbly bin bleah walking around look I'm like my crap doesn't stink oh they're crazy I hate cats yeah they're stupid I don't walk a cat cat doesn't get home from work cat doesn't jump in your arms about everybody say something positive yeah but right up on their this just me you're a great dresser thank you very much Katie you're a great gift giver thanks so much Richard you've been so chill and no issues and drama over their respective hmm Jeff Jenni say something no can I say something better come up with any yeah nothing just red flag your care person excellent host of loaded this one oh thank you very much sir as if you'll appreciate their very nice you to lie in front of Katie in the entire internet all 15 people now have a wrong idea about me uh no I did do loaded today thanks for bringing that up check out loaded today and tomorrow I'm doing loaded yes it's awesome and place a Bridget who's in flooded uh I used to call Florida I was a little kid gonna flood I just came back from Floridian yeah what'd you do there I did I went to Disney World oh no way whoops that's where your are two came from Oh Swedish him from Star Tours oh my god that's awesome i'm obsessed with Disney World yeah what time it went 13 times in one year that's more than once a month I don't understand that extra organizing your money SPN you get a silver pass will give you three passes for you and three friends every single day uh-huh and then fifty percent of everything wait time out is that like the same thing with the little uh the beeper they give you to cut the line in the rides and kaplan I've I have not graduated to that level to know about the beeper do you know about that sort of stuff i dunno some conspiracy stuff but whether it's accurate or not no so they will I know for a fact they do this at six flags in Jersey a great adventure which is like the best six flags in the country no it just is okay thank you could don't feel suspicious it totally is they give you that you can go there right you buy a pass for the day and then they go oh hey they try and upsell you on to like look see you this little guy here you can cut the line if you buy this I've never heard of yeah and they do that now told like Express Pass or whatever the hell yeah much is it that stuff's a lot it's like 60 bucks that's it that's a long but that's that's a one the whole day whole day it's worth it if you're just if you don't have a season pass and you're just going one day and you're just going balls that one yeah i'm not i swear i've done it i bought it putting everybody by a beeper i don't know i think there's only a limited amount available so you got to get there real early i'm not joking is there a separate line for people that have beeper if you don't negate so get this if you have the beeper you go in the rear you go in the back you're like come on there like it's like a backstage pass right it's sick like I'm garlic you're gonna say like a thousand-dollar know I was in boxford a rock maybe it's more me as like a tea yeah but still were three super pretzels exactly i would parents you know those are some pretty kickass pretzels I guess dude even a hundred dollars a day I would pay to do that yeah that's I'm saying mm-hmm I'm getting in there going through the back door of the ride no hell yeah hook it up I was reading something about an avatar ride coming to like 20 yeah we're late nobody's gonna remember avatar way then the whole generation is grown up yeah you don't cares anymore that's funny guys well this is real 22 I know you 2015 that's way too long very much expect it might be out on in 3d blu-ray by that yeah he knows they'll have a reboot by then oh my god speaking of reboots have you uh you you know the controversy with teenage mutant ninja turtles yeah you guys are really upset yeah we seem to be upset about that we kind of pick and choose what we get mad at so a caller actually let me play this call because this is totally appropriate for the conversation we're having sort of calls us out and he's not totally wrong good hey guys California finish on your left a pleasure talking about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and tigers are just displayed with Michael Bay's um new idea of making them aliens but I thought it kind of interesting that uh you guys are getting all worked up and saying oh it shouldn't happen when you know you talk about a video game and then people do the same thing for that because like all I know they stick to their artistic licenses and these people need to get alive all right now there is a different historical context thank you explain I mean what you were talking about with the whole mass effect controversy right right so ever all these people are up in arms out by our change the ending no you don't change the ending like we said that's like asking Christopher Nolan to change the dark night right you know no you can't do that and mass effect isn't a 30-year franchise that's been you know it's garnered music fans across the world exactly a little bit different scale hundred percent ninja turtles are an established story that everyone has agreed on right who's the sewer the mutation you would abuse what ya weeks probably no no no I'm listening I went into panic mode when there was a caller first off my HSN experience I thought somebody's gonna ask you about the process or the cost of the product how many colors it comes in so I kind of spaced out allotted use credit cards and I space back in and now I'm listening okay sorry to throw you off like that right now it's all good so that's really funny so uh I mean what he's like art do you understand it Charles fan growing up I was a big april O'Neil fan oh yeah that says anything oh yeah yeah I guess I guess you guys are very passionate about it yeah well he's just trying to call us out and he's saying oh how can you complain about mass effect 3 not changing when you're upset about Michael Bay changing Ninja Turtles and it's different because people bought the video game first and then we're upset with a sanding selling we're going to the movie and asking for a refund made I mean look our track record at judging things before they come out pretty bad yeah we're real bad we're about we're about you know not joking with the avatar yep we thought I would talk seriously said that like you thought those you see this pile of garbage we're like oh look at this movie looks like a halo cut ya knows it I mean I like shatters it like just shatters everything completely change i Gress too much but how about beetlejuice coming back at ya we match that's siamo and not a reboot right that's why we said we're okay with the Katie because it's going to be an F 26-year evolution right and that is fine and you're gonna get Tim Burton behind the reins and also uh Michael Keaton right come on it is bad the fact that it's not a reboot I don't think we'll take away from the original movie for sure it's not gonna it's like you can't destroy Beetlejuice one if you make a crappy beetlejuice 2 yeah that's what I'm gonna just lie to myself and tell myself that's how I'm gonna sleep at night I mean man you see Alec Baldwin and Beetlejuice and you see him on 30 rock how is that the same guy yeah it's not amazing I mean he's still devastatingly handsome but I just think like it should look like two different people boys good boys it took me a second after I've seen it like 42 dude yeah that's him how I mean Adam Maitland right how old is he and build you yeah oh no 30mm right that movies about 26 years old yeah so he's gotta be in if he's got to be close to 50 maybes a little younger I don't know man oh man still good look crazy stuff eat any way you slice it makes us feel old yeah that's all it comes down to with you on that you know all right Girl Scout time girls and girls go bringing the girls go finally can I do before we get to the Girl Scout the story of actual content okay have you seen the girl scout cookies this year yeah or there's a new thing right well there's the Savannah Smiles like the healthy option yeah what is it like like with that I'm gonna table that for 26 letters it's just lettuce with chocolate on it organic grass-fed what would I explain it the portion size of the box this year is like it's like hey America you're all fat yeah I mean no wonder the girl scouts have unlimited funding like for thin mints yeah like the Samoa Oh three boxes yeah put those in the refrigerator and destroy that do minute Ella but the tagalongs do taxes the peanut butter ones those are good look at me like i have ten heads crap dude peanut butter and chocolate are the is the greatest combination in the history of flavors although i will say they're better than like the shortbread you know that the tree oils there is anywhere hammering there's a warehouse somewhere before where there is all those shortbread jobs is that no one's ever bought because no one gives a crap about that made out of the cardboard box it comes in are they made of real girl scale no but seriously tagalongs where it's a good I mean let let's be on and all other small ozark MO kinda girl FEMEN is good after dinner break I gotta use the end you know there's a nap yeah the girl scout cookie finder I boats about to bring that up macho I used it as I was I thought it was gonna be an actual Center where you could buy girl scout cookies from girl scouts it took me to a business on the west side it was seriously like an office and I guess anybody can sign up for this and say that they are selling girl scout cookies for their daughter yeah yeah and so I went it was in the back of this corporate office and I had to just go through all these we actually went through it I went through it because I couldn't find any places on tenth Avenue and thirty seventh street in a corporate office and I way through that is so we buy it from a dad like an individual guy like how you're in the fabric district really bad girls get some bad really worth it really worth it why is that though the eight girls yeah yeah and the girl scouts are using they're not using square but a comparable what they use it I don't know Oh her to pay yeah I'm telling you there buddy went high-tech film rebe thumbprint can you Thelma's twenty dollars back to tag along the reason we bring up the Girl Scouts is because there's a new badge called the netiquette pledge badge love that portmanteau yes for the past hundred years the whole scouts honor thing is now redefined right what exactly are these people saying is appropriate like what are the requirements for acquiring the netiquette bad so they basically need to take something called an Internet safety pledge is about that for an internet but the national center for missing children so it's legit important that kids understand the same for glory Kevin Friday's coming good come out like a segment nothing good can come you I don't know started rattling off like a positive statistic you're a god so stupid are you so dumb yeah myself holy English people yeah alright so such as well try and find the one glimmer of hope in this artist do me a favor turn off your mic while we're talking so this is similar to the internet Scout badge for Boy Scouts that we talked about last year but this is basically five tenets that these Girl Scouts need to follow one is I won't spam other than I just gotta buy this is actually really good advice yeah I understand what time out that's number one that's wrong number one is now shall not spam but here's the thing you know all right the whole basis of selling girl scout cookies is spamming people like a good spamming people in real life to buy things sure might not necessarily want your point right its total advertising it should say in parenthesis except every year when it's freaking girl scout cookies BAM we yeah number two number two I will not bully nor will I tolerate bullying perfectly the angle I can jump on board with that yeah I'd be positive no no boys I am NOT a bully you would never be a Girl Scout in high school of school like grade school wasn't a bully no didn't stand for bullying of course not turned in hockey I'm not the bully guy on the team I'm like get along let's get along and have fun and play hockey to God well that's like the wrong place to be the ghetto yeah exactly there's nothing else hockey everybody wants to fight all right maybe but um you know I see the silver I'm not over there let him finish the commando sorry the scene that bully giving everyone know jeez around the office give everyone oh man can you go on number three I will follow the rules of internet sites including those based on age of use these don't look at porn parental approval and knowledge and public laws all right that that's kind of someone right out of that one but go on number 4 i'll never agree to get together with someone i quote unquote meet offline it's good without first checking with my parents or guardians okay oh we're googling their name for itself yeah number five I wasn't a person my picture anything else without first checking with my parents or guardians those are the five Commandments of the Girl Scouts like snoozefest I don't know I feel like numbers three four and five are all the same yeah don't talk to anyone online but once they've passed this and they take this pledge right they get the bed yeah we've added something to this no I wouldn't have at it I just feel like I'm all for Internet safety girl scouts why can't we make it a little cooler okay my god sounds really nerdy to me okay so what are your single I i I'd have to brainstorm about a badge for like getting more girls involved in like mechanical engineering or like coding put IT certification IT certification like are you sure you nitey like yeah I'm interested in science and technology lets not like I don't know I'd come at it differently oh i'm with you i think i think your idea is better but uh I mean look I don't have an a solid idea right now I'm just stating my opinion with like this is a nerdy approach this is a very like predatory kind of like paranoia inducing yeah that have rules to write there's meant to scare girls automation be scarcely in fear mongering going on uh I don't know yeah I do not know oh I like the Boy Scout so I think last year we talked about their geocaching badge and I guess they would be given gps navigation Zand they will be taught how to geocache I think that's a more interesting way to go about teaching people technology not yeah like doing something yes let's teach something for billions on let's do it were you a girl scout I was a growth no no I was a brownie ah that's where we girls of brownie pre girl scout all right that's what the wii blows for the Boy Scout write the Weibo yeah it's called that you worked for those badges too yeah can I just like interject for a second year me making me think about like that badge earning that was intense like when I was little kids are gonna iPads now ipod touches they get like expensive stuff like i had to win like six science fairs get like 64 kranz with a built-in she liked it or brought a brownie batter right what a problem nowadays yeah that was the pinnacle of achievement oh my gosh my mom would sew it on yeah all proud and whatnot what happened yeah I don't know if these damages don't want that badge they want that in the computer yeah yeah a trapper keeper isn't gone drew is what do you do you think that's doing to us I think it's good and bad I think that's like a whole other conversation because i will tell you working with like younger kids with the ipad and some of the games that they're playing and really getting an education he would sound so cheesy i have seen it firsthand and i'm amazed by it yeah but in terms of this entitlement in want like I'm all against that that urn sure yeah like do you feel like that's changed a little bit it's a whole other conversation sure I mean I do think I do think it's okay for parents to incentivize their kids sure because that's how the real world works and you get rewarded if you do good stuff so I think that's cool um but I'm not like these big sort of thing you know like if I was 11 with an iPad like week I can't even imagine that just all that my biggest you know possession was like a JanSport like back then you were like I was the you were the crap like you that's where you were a pencil box are you kidding me you know that was the big thing it was like stationery why was it stationary why are we it's all like if you had like status symbol gold and silver crayons you're like yes yes happy in fact the iphone is the 64 crayon box of our time it totally is that's well put number it had like the pencil sharpener in the mag DePiano who was the best yeah kids don't know these they don't know what they got kids don't appreciate anything no they all i gotta do is tap a crayon and then they're drawing with their finger and that's it let's get a life oh when I hate kids I hate children let's go beat up a girl scout let's let's get a few of our uh rest of our calls today we got some and I know Katie wants to talk a little bit about the ipad so one of these will lead into that show the love a jig 6404 cnet all right calls from the public time don't worry no one's buying anything okay was so Sifl and Olly if that's all hey somebody got it yes calls calls calls from the public nobody nobody ever gets on that River I'm just doing even saying i clap right here for the 80 you just killed your cred right there man not to you well played well played ah first let's get into the ipad stuff our buddy calls up says he's a little let down by the new ipad is lado from Shannon I'm called to talk to Jeff about via knew I had I have the ipad 12 the three above them all on launch day a new iPad is the first iPad that did not impress me when I brought it home couple of first things I noticed was very was heavier than the ipad 2 and usually it started to get warm in the bottom left-hand corner after about five minutes it also takes longer to charge through the ipad 2 and the incredible screen that is so i def it doesn't stay consistent with the colors like the old ipad it's kind of like looking at an LCD through polarized sunglasses have you ever done that and the colors seem to jump all around look at a new ipad screen bring up Google and bring it up on an ipad 2 and then just kind of move them around and see if the colors on the new ipad don't seem to shift for more to cool that's so weird okay so you have a new ipad i have a new ipad i had it a few days in advance below retail that's like all i've been covering on air on especially on the CNN side so trying it out testing it out from everything he's speaking to here's the way I group it I say if you haven't had an iPad you've been holding out which I think there's a whole category of people on right perfect time to get one for sure if you are using your iPad a lot is your go-to device and you have an iPad 2 is it worth the upgrade probably you think so I do if you have an iPad 2 if you're using it I think he'd the barometer is like do you are you gonna be looking at photos and video a lot are you using it as your go-to device like people I know like executives is the ipad is ur go to yeah right but I'll but you've i mean i don't know i have a tough time telling somebody who just spent 500 bucks I'm not seeing it please no I know right but that's what you got a factor that in I just I don't know I I think from one to three is ok I also don't think the two at 399 is a horrible pricing screw anybody looking for it's awesome I have to say in showing it around to just people around this oh the bureau and the studio I personally with the retina display I was putting it next to the two and playing with things I noticed the most in text but also in photo I mean like you can see the clarity in the red shirt why they were more mind-blowing than I was about it immediately when they were popping up video because it supports 1080p right they were that's the first thing they caught onto which I was surprised by so for some it seems like the retina display is this resolution airy factor for me it wasn't the huge default I do notice that it's faster and I was on 4g over the weekend it was fast yeah four G's real thing to have the hotspot capability as a traveler that actually to me to me subjectively speaking from somebody that does a lot of business travel as we lose their hot spot I mean one day at a hotel is worth it for me right I don't know I just I feel what we did a story the other day where people literally couldn't tell the difference yeah they went to an apple store and show the two and the three Empyrean tell they were there like I got all really yeah I think they were just scrolling through the home screen fine just on the home screen probably would be able to tell you i got my obvious I'm 1080p video to like really small text for obvious they're deaf oh the batteries for a great tablet I think ipad 2 is great here's the way I always put it in any article I was running as well ipad 2 was the best tablet on the market you're not gonna ask any tech expert that's gonna disagree with that right ipad 3 is like a bonus it's the more polished version for sure it's the best tablet while markets still mm-hmm if you want to save a hundred bucks you go to yeah if you want everything and you want to be future proof you go 3 yeah if you want to burn your legs by the third version have you noticed that on Harris I'm not that kind of crazy look every time apple releasing degrees every time Apple releases something people you know people got out come out with with the you know the pitchforks and like all how can we tear this thing down right is like antennagate antennagate and now what are they calling this like hot aight i have no idea warmth gate whatever it is uh you know yeah it gets a little hot but show me a high powered device like a laptop right that doesn't get hot they all get hot your phone gets hot and you know what 95 degrees that's really not that hot considering it's less than your body temperature yeah so you know cry me a river is out don't you know maybe you can cook with it whatever it is but it's not the big the eric franklin did a test on his own and it wasn't burning any holes in anybody i pat down for a little bit let it cool off you know that could be a good sign side yeah go outside total digression but i love the ipad rumor mill because i see you could brand yourself as like an apple rumor expert yeah time job we have a separate podcast just for roommate absurd yeah but I was like the sites cuz when it starts to really heat up and you know like an announcements coming and invites coming like the sites thatís be like bling bling supertech biz yes they have one and they're like according to an anonymous source like I'm obsessive like finding those articles right leading in it's pretty funny we should definitely just start rumors you for that you can and we you have a source a platform to do it you have anything you wanna miss chinese source ira the iphone 5s coming in five colors there you go yeah yeah that's it that's it don't know what colors energy bluetooth yeah and everything it's just 25 more technology yeah it's in there that's pretty good unfortunately we're out of time guys it's been a lot of fun Katie it's been a blessed promised us you come back yeah and not just because you 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