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The 404 Ep. 1016: Where we need a social network for our social network

2012-03-23
it's Thursday March 22nd 2012 it's the 404 show coming to you live from cnet TV New York I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm Justin you and this is the show where we need a social network for our social network I think so it's about time that we got all of our ducks in a row you know what I mean like these office buzzwords we're just using now it's all about the buzz for ya with more where those buzzwords viral you need a viral outreach situational context thing but ok so this we should explain that Joe title we're talking about Facebook's new demoting tool hmm it lets you pretty much downgrade your friends to acquaintances and they introduced us last year I'm like thinking like November of 2011 they introduced an acquaintance's button you can add friends to these lists of acquaintances and that means they won't show up in your newsfeed is often but I wanted to talk about this overarching discussion that like lets you know facebook has become this it's been such it's become such a giant social network that now we need social networks within these social networks to control the amount of friends that we have you know i mean like i feel like people would rather use instagram or like twitter or something like that where they don't necessarily have to friend everybody but the original point of facebook was that you're only supposed to be adding friends right like why are we wired of why are we adding facebook friends profiles that we don't even like it would it's true I mean like why even do that why are we friends with people who don't even know it's like social graces I feel like they you know I guess the way Facebook started they were really trying to patrol the whole are you a college student thing yeah there's a whiz you know of a morsel of background checking right now it's just like hey got a pulse yeah you got a facebook proof like it's it's become a thing where you don't even add friends anymore you just literally add everybody you've ever met or known i do that higher life I don't do that most people are though and that's why they come out with things like this because people need more tools for control I think I have something like seven hundred friends which is inaccurate crazy inaccurate yeah i only have like 200 right but um you know I just think that they really should have considered doing some sort of legitimate friendship connection background check yeah I don't know that I feel like there's more value there I don't but I don't know but it's up to the user also to be sure their own profiles true I feel like it's just because people are so worried about insulting their friends by not adding them you know whatever that they'll just do it I have a something to admit about Facebook that I'm kind of ashamed of it this is embarrassing yeah uh is this kind of sucks i was looking at someone's timeline profile the other like last night yeah is there no longer i'm gonna sound like a total idiot is there no longer a wall what like I I just can you no longer post on somebody's wall if they have timeline no you can yeah of course y'all me because I have no I was literally searching for I don't know 40 seconds okay okay there we go okay switch to this person yeah you could switch this person all right so Oh see now my buddy Mike so Mike's got a little smile bill on the profile was on yesterday that little box on the left was in there I would have soon it uh yeah I would think so it was a nominally displayed maybe it's because your friend in their private and their privacy preferences doesn't seem letting people post on their wall did you check to see what other people had done he cheats at words with friends so I wanted to call him out on his page okay and be like hey bro I heard you cheat with in words with Eddie and she do you have a knowledge sharing with you his back his freakin bored look is filled up like it doesn't make sense so he's making up words that don't exist finding out the way it worked right he's cheating okay everyone knows everyone who plays and knows he's cheating no one's confronted him and I just want to go on his stupid wall and be like hey do is called we all know you're cheating at words with friends and then maybe include like a screenshot where he used the word like I don't even know how would you need to cheat on why would you need like I'm words with friends you colossal a hole yeah that's messed up like jacking your friends yeah I don't get it man you play scramble with friends at all or what now I don't you were telling me that you've been getting rid getting bad it's getting better the game where you have to like you know critical J yeah attic boggle remade words yeah it's good man i want i want people to play me if your friends in the office book do it yeah i got i think someone yesterday hit me up and i was playing that Mandy and I was playing I think that's a fourth I was like a random person yeah um but it's exciting yeah it's really exciting please I would love to play with you just cuz I think I could beat you whoa are using you have a larger vocab nothing you do vocabulary trial and error okay simply trial and eric is that I mean it's sort of like words of friends were the friends is largely Tron there if anything its mortgage have more time right you know this is a time limit or thing yeah but yet this guy he blocks is I think he blocks people from posting on his Facebook wall cuz he know he had words the friends you stupid cheater i want to say his name so bad everyone so about it right now no one's gonna know no one's gonna toast it Andrew we all know Andrew are you hating the words the French Intervention we all know the funniest thing is my buddy red comes out to me the other night like dude I'm gonna call you out on something and you can't lie if it's true you have to say he's like are you cheatng it words and I'm like no dude what are you talking about it you and then he goes isn't your name blah blah blah like a username and I'm like no dude that's Andrew and then turns out this is nick is cheating oh are you cheating on words with friend Andrew would do something like geez if you have a friend who does something like that please let us know I can't stand people who cheat yeah what monks friends like Chantay get a video gamers and a good get a life yeah that's all troll his wall seriously I would love nothing more but you can't he's made it impossible to do that I know I know it's the problem I I have these are the days of our lives uh we got so we have a story we talked about and loaded yesterday that you and I can personally relate with talking about nokia getting a patent for a tattoo that now get this vibrates right when there's some sort of cell other activity on your phone with you get a call an email a text something like that they're trying to patent technology that allows at at now I don't even understand how this works i remember it was something called like ferromagnetic technology right that is somehow injected into the your epidermis and you can get it colored you can get it clear whatever they want I would probably get like a little telephone right to or something like that that be cute and it's gonna make your skin vibrate because i'm sure that feels comfortable yeah sure that's that's what she's crawling under your skin is something you want to feel exactly exactly my tattoo to feel a lot and think about how many times your phone vibrates notify you of everything that goes on yeah you're gonna give me a whole skin will be vibrating every five minutes it's very strange this is definitely one of those patents that they just filed for the hell of it and maybe in the year 2079 they'll finally come out with tattoos stations sponsored by Nokia I gotta talk to my Joe our tattoo buddy are the artist who's working on my leg I'm gonna see you next week I'm gonna ask her about this and be like dude what what's the deal and can we get this done right away my question is why why would you need that I mean what a wise is better than just a phone vibrating in your shirt that's oh not attached and do you really want to have to deal with like oh I don't know getting a text in the middle of the night yeah and we have to wake you up right and then you're going to be like oh well I can't get tattoo vibrations from the hours of 12 am 27 a better question is where would you get the tattoo to vibrate on your body that opens up a whole different conversation now you're talking about you probably be calling yourself a lot yeah person surprised gonna test something yeah I just got test something hey everybody called my phone its social call this is among the Dumber things well it's done because not only is it a ridiculous concept but also there's no way nokia would ever open up a tattoo shop for people to come into you know i mean there have to get into that business and what would you get tattooed like what if nokia subsidized this technology and kind of gave you a discount but then you have to get the nokia logo tattooed on your skin and that would vibrate would you do that no dude are you giving me I love how you just jump to that conclusion though too you're like well this is what I just planted this is what they're really idea walking talking breathing ads yeah at scare is dumb I would never do this it's very dumb stop coming up with stupid ideas now yes that putting things under my skin what are three online dating sites that have agreed to uh what what are these three sites that have agreed to scream for predators because it's a big deal we talked about this yesterday with Katie linendoll a little bit about Riley dating for a second mm-hmm so this is this is interesting um up until this point I guess online dating users I haven't really had a way to screen you know like who there'd been talking to who they're talking to online you know like you could be talking to anyway it's basically like an online chat was just a really fancy for all you know adult meetup section of craigslist baby so um three of the big online dating websites those include match com which already owns okcupid is they bought them out last year I eHarmony and sparks networks which I hadn't heard of before this they signed an agreement yesterday to basically pledge to safeguard against predators online sexual predators so they're gonna do this in a couple ways which I think are kind of a good idea they're gonna background-check every subscriber against sex registries like you know like Megan's Law basis right like you can go online and find out who is a sexual predator so they're gonna know if they know about that I thought they don't let those people register though here's my question too is that online dating sites never verify that you're the person exact you say you are online they don't they prove like your name you don't give your name for yeah well you have a handle of course so the only thing identifies use the photo you can upload a photo of anybody people do that there's a lot of trolls online why not cut this problem off at the root what's and how would you do that you freakin do some sort of like being verified you know thing at the beginning yeah see you know have it uh you know take effect right in the beginning I mean people pay for the service right yo you know you're you're denying them the what they paid for there should be a service when you sign up you should be able to provide your real name but then so has remembered and you see all that stuff you know and then they'll mask that with whatever handle you choose just go verify you want to call yourself you know asian lover 15 that's fine do that want to make sure you are in fact easy and little Romeo excess that was your that was your hands my current handle match.com no it's not it's not you get all the ladies that way I'm on adultfriendfinder though are you yep are you really no I'm not an adult friend finders wonder who does it no one's ever going to admit they do that what adult yeah AFF AFF EF I mean that one the Ashley Madison yeah like who's really on that I would I feel like if if if there was sort of an anonymous survey of your close friends it would shock you how many people are on right I don't know what do you think I don't know why no one's trolled the people on Ashley Madison and you know like ask them to meet up and message 300 people to meet up in the same spot hmm and then just shoot them all you whoa you know what's amazing though with that you never up until now and still to this day you never hear crazy like divorce breakup stories stemming from Ashley Madison do you you hear about it from facebook you about like someone seeing you know a thread a back-and-forth conversation someone's having right a husband or have with someone else outside of the marriage you hear about those you hear about those leading to divorce facebook being cited as evidence in divorce litigation uh you don't really hear about that like what what are they doing right that uh they're able to cover their tracks maybe in the future we'll have a court case where the lawyer will cite Ashley like existing profile Ashley Madison but I feel like there's there's gotta be some sort of you know Americans for a better nuclear family sort of thing yeah you know that have been you know up in arms against the fred phelps yeah like where r why is that not happening and this and it's not like actually madison is quiet about it they're very vocal right there marketing get a Super Bowl ad yeah they're like oh they got pulled off right there like you want to cheat on your spouse and come to our site we'll make it happen for you I wonder what the gender breakdown of the profiles on Ashley Madison do you think there are a lot of women that would surprise me enough that's a sexist remark no I don't think it would really surprise me if there are a lot of women just looking to cheat online I I mean of course are your knee-jerk reaction i think is to say there's more men and you can make the art I think people would make the argument that it's easier for women just go out and find anybody chief do you think that Valerie if you're female anybody or just dang it now i think i don't know i would i would not be surprised to see if it's 5050 really I would almost like hope that the law of averages ya know had the higher ground and was like yep it's actually 5050 it would delight me if it was ninety-five percent dudes Oh five percent women it wouldn't be called what would be called sausage Madison yeah we called Ashley Madison and what is with that name Ashley Madison yeah I don't know who that is that's whoever that there's a lot of pissed-off Ashley Madison's out I am sure there are up in arms these people poor ashley will take a break when we come back more 404 we've got a few more stories and we're going to check out a new commercial done by wes anderson for sony yeah and that'll be interesting to see more 404 right after this stick around we'll be right back this is the 404 Mr effers the show where we all sing songs maybe there's green little robots teeny tiny little robots their job is to make the phone work and the leader helps decide what their job is like I guess hey you marry you job is to help the guys and they have little tiny robot vehicles except they have to be careful because they're a little small for a small guy they're pretty smart they can predict the future past or present actually they just record the stuff on themselves and then end up and they just shoot it out just like a slingshot and then they go through the air and bring a song picture the video and they're pretty good mostly they like doing it because they never actually saw when like an humor just like how we don't know what's inside at that device hey it's laura from houston and you're listening to the fluorophore where it's going to even be elliptical tonight i think i'm going to use the stationary bike oh thank goodness Oh kicks your GTFO seriously haha who was that again was a risk I larissa right yeah the two S's everyone you want actually no I'm gonna get on um dude that's awesome thanks for the call definitely enjoy that workout session yeah seriously work up a sweat please wet it out ah during our break we watched wes anderson's new Xperia Sony commercial yeah whoo so it's basically in the vein of like the fantastic mr fox sort of thing you know with the with the stop animation right um it's like it's just funny because I I only watched it because wes anderson had something to do with it I feel like no one's really clamoring to watch a sony commercial no nor does it make you want to buy the new experience and that's the thing that i want to talk about it's cool it wasn't at first that the story doesn't didn't really do anything for me yeah so the story was a kid who is far too old to be speculating about yeah what it goes on that's cool yeah this kids maybe go back to school Jimmy yeah who was this kid irritate yeah it is like a they should have maybe cast like a four-year-old sounded like the mutterings of six years six at the ol at the you know that even then I'll slap a six-year-old if he said I'd be like really you really think this robot really you're in like third grade or whatever well you are that age really this is what you think's going on yeah uh there's a good parody video to be made here to of who actually makes these phones yeah there's like a good like Foxconn ish for sure like factory made video yeah sure I'd like it not little obat yeah those little robot ten little niggers attached to a little Chinese beating heart Oh God anyway regardless of this the incomprehensible story um it's a cute commercial I'll give him that and I love Wes Anderson and all of his little you know films and whatnot but i don't i don't know i think like this is a prime example of you know a sort of celebrity endorsement that to me doesn't really do anything right in in in the vein of sort of you know promoting a product successfully I just there's a disconnect it's yeah it doesn't even feel like it is a sony commercial on even personally I think this question what phone were they advertised some experience no idea no I didn't give any details about them know they merely even showed the phone it's just such a misuse of celebrities yeah you know what I mean yeah it's a misuse well I hate to say it about saw you know but we're just calling how we see it we just don't think it's effective it's a good cook it's a fun little cute you know aesthetically you know aside from the the endorsement it's a it's a cute little project but it did say that this is the first in a series of videos and get on with celebrity directors so maybe future videos will be a little smarter this is an introduction type thing right that's I'm speculating sure enough they might all be crappy yeah I don't know but that's that's interesting to see how they do that sort of stuff yeah all right let's move along I would rather see a video like that if I had to watch a commercial on TV I'd rather see something like that than just uh like regurgitation of specs yeah for sure yes I agree with it ahead and that he could have I mean baby all they did was take a Wes Anderson short and put a sony logo yeah they didn't first take the sony logo and turn that into a Wes Anderson right right which they should have done uh we're going to move along from Sony to AT&T ATT reinventing the steering wheel coming up with a vibrating steering wheel that tells you when to turn yeah claiming it is less distracting than visual and auditory cues people love vibrators pause who doesn't long pause people it's a polite causes vibrating devices yeah vibrations let me that's interesting what's going on it's interesting AT&T Labs yes it's contributing with a vibrating steering wheel that promises deliver turn-by-turn navigation information to drivers now this is the big sort of key point here more safely what we're used to with you know the auditory and visual cues right makes sense well okay so the visual cues makes sense because obviously you want to keep your eyes on the road core as long as possible the auditory cues I don't know that they're saying basically that listening to voices weathers from like a dashboard gps or distracting voices the radio or the radio whatever you're listening to it they call it a cognitive burden that sort of distracts you from whatever you're supposed to be concentrating on which is driving but do you think that's true people have been added ooh sounds make a really big difference I mean how we more than listen to things in how many years have radios been in class 70 right I mean we'll talk about the Steve bored listening to music has now become a passive experience to where you can multitask while listening right I think it's it's not even in in the same realm as talking on the phone I think arm you know what it might not it might be the fact that when you're only listening to somebody give you turn-by-turn directions it's hard to memorize that and so you're constantly playing that back in your head whereas the radio you're not like wait what did the guy to say yeah you're right it's more of like an interactive sort of thing yeah cause getting in structure hearing is like dictating and that's directly leading to you doing things right and then there's a lot of like oh wait let me just look at the map a little bit yeah that's becoming distracting for sure I'm surprised you know that is sort of surprising when you really think about it yeah the the the effort that goes into getting people to stop effing around in the car and just keep their eyes and reload right you would imagine that GPS screens and all that sort of stuff for whatever reason they've just slithered their way into the you know what's acceptable right and you know that's that's really it but yeah I don't know I just I didn't but I still think of a haptic feedback a sort of vibration isn't enough to tell you what to do yes okay the idea behind the steering wheel is that it has 20 actuators arm situated across the circle ok so 360 degrees all around like has vibrators and then when you have your hands on the wheel it'll vibrate each dot consecutively in the direction you're supposed to be going so like for example if you turn left it'll go from like the twelve o'clock position to the nine o'clock gotcha so I know but like and when when there was the next left I didn't tell you exactly when to do it and it sensibly should warn you a little before so you have time to make that move I mean maybe that coupled with an audio-only right sort of notification and eliminating the map maybe but I don't know there's something good about having the map and being like Oh Tom you know Gordon Street yes exactly me you imagine like a 75 year old man trying to use this try to interpret these vibrations while you actually see is like a Lincoln Town Car wrapped around a tree that's all I see that's all I see right think about that exactly they can go hold the steering wheel it's just like it's still vibrating and then comparing like a legend like oh wait to vibrations on the pinky finger my left hand means you turn just tough I you know I don't know I think I think the best way to do it yeah and it's more science fiction but maybe not maybe not perhaps not is a sort of uh overlay like a hood sort of thing right we shield you know I think at the same like you can distinguish person between Holograms or you know like that I still think we should be doing right they did stuff like that used to have like Pontiacs I remember had like the the your your speedometer in the in the windshield and stuff like that and I think people are experimenting with that too there's no reason why in the vein of the HUD system there's no reason why you can't have aught mented reality put into a monitor on your on your way yeah I mean I see it it directly goes against what we were saying about distracting people but I feel like rather than someone look away from the windshield yeah just bless all are all in the windshield yeah but no you can really make the you know the opacity where you know make make that really really adjustable and transparent and will be okay which will try it out just try it how many people have to die before I don't know we finally reinvent this technology uh here's some news for people who love their bittorrent a Miami judge mr. mark shoemaker has issued a landmark order in which he protects accused bittorrent downloads from mass lawsuits filed by copyright holders this was a tldr for me I'm not gonna lie this is a very long article long story short this long story short he claims that bittorrent downloads are protected under anonymous speech ok so now whether or not that translates on a federal level probably not this is just what one judge Miami has ruled arm it's tough to say that oh you know every judge in every court should uphold what this guy has as you know thrown down right but it is sort of a little um you know loophole that some people might try and take advantage of for instance if i live in florida and i get brought up on some sort of torrenting charger you know legal downloads maybe I look to have this court case moved over to Miami court yeah yeah looks you know and maybe you put all your servers if you're hosting something on BitTorrent in Florida it's it opens up a little bit of a loophole you know how I know you didn't read this article fully what's that did you read the end I didn't read the well there's an update is an update and here's the update let me read the W it says shortly after this article was published right we learned that the order in question has been vacated which means it was basically thrown out white spot but but but there's a hold on if you if you read a little uh yeah turns out it was apparently designed by mistake uh but completely by mistake yeah it says it turns out the order was drafted by a defense attorney and the judge that made the rich initial calling apparently signed it by mistake thinking that all the parties had agreed on it which they hadn't yet it was still in deliberation so they basically just threw it out you cannot use this as a defense in court I will still be doing that okay it turns out it turns out that this is all wrong is a big tease is what it is what I understand is like how does this get to the point where people are like all okay now we can jump on this right you know nothing people were so excited about the prospect of having this be landlord you know what's messed up this article was updated mithun the time that I put it into the rundown oh really now shall we go yeah that's not fair things change really quickly this world how is that fair it's probably going on as we speak I live literally when I popped it in this morning it did not have this up they had no update okay all right no I don't you reckon a jackass that's fine I mean it's not fair it got closed that's a step in the right direction we we touched it yeah you touched it right on the head all right so it looks like why is this even an article I want to talk about this speaking of words of friends and all that good stuff here's an awesome limited edition Scrabble typography version that includes the fonts of all knowledge so it's basically a very overpriced edition of Scrabble okay check this out up here that has like all the tile pieces in different fonts and whatnot how cool does that look man I think it's really tight oh all the tiles feature different you know different fonts from the ages of print and whatnot right various different different typefaces spanning the entire world ah pretty cool I'm not seeing wing-dings on here though winged is indecipherable fine not represented in the scrabble world the letter A is not a finger pointing left okay the letter A is always the letter A ok uh if you want one of these limited edition two hundred dollars they're charging for this thing yeah but it's not just your typical crappy will this looks like this looks later mahogany exactly now this is super high and they're also magnetic tiles whoa cool that's just sick pointless why why do you need magnetize because we're playing in your whitewater raft right amigos how's the same place when you're at zero gravity and playing Scrabble in space only 1200 total units are there and believe it or not they've sold more than half of them only four hundred and sixty of them are left so get your hands on this I think it's pretty sick i'm i used to be a huge font nerd were you ever font nerd yes bacon to follow through i was such a font nerd it was unbelievable I'd be all over this Q well thats everywhere right that's all aren't you big time plain white bread fan just said it's great courier new yeah I'm big lucida sans unicode you know what sucks Comic Sans no that's not comics and sucks how dare you wouldn't know it was cool in 1998 this is like the cart kind of like cartoons curly q 1 no it's not curly q don't talk crap about comics and comic sans is like become the redheaded stepchild of the font universe a few man you know what it would only ask me when it was popular as popular was not really when he first came out people always use them I still have friends who use Comic Sans and every time they write back to me I'm just like I refuse to read your nonsense but no me a childish job I have a fun snob here this is common we all know what it is I can't believe you actually got to bring it up I copy memory don't know it sucks it's beautiful what's wrong with it ugly over that's over Comic Sans is over it is over you know and comes back anymore let's get to some some emails today we got a buttload of emails and want to get to let's go back to this fine talk what what's your default font then snob oh I like Georgia Oh George is gay I like a serif hey I like me a seraph file your old ru serif only I like it better than not on the San serif kind of guy I work out your lens would just quit this podcast now you let your health Attica guy yeah exactly cuz you're freaking Plain Jane loser how dare you know but that I like George I like serif fonts I like fonts that look like they have some sort of meaning right if you notice all of the all of like magazines like I like the front they using wired I like the font and now New York Times and I like non the home is ok to our verdana is this to houma right he had a stoma oh no this is Times New Roman yeah I mean we can go we could literally go on about that exciting podcast let's just list off thoughts but let's never do that we are nerds Richard thinking that Richards ringing the nerd alarm uh some emails rich in Cleveland this one is about the Mass Effect saga which we will continue I'm kind of holding off on most of this stuff so we can finish up the week tomorrow when Russ fresh dick Grace's us right Russ fresh dick man he's like oh i'm at vox now i'm a big shot look at me you know same guys on the verge looking he you know with his frickin glasses and whatnot anyway uh he's gonna kick my ass tomorrow with his bony little body Richmond Cleveland our good buddy rich says doesn't capitulating the fan demands on huh what would you say capitulating capitulated oh yeah yeah tufan demands I mass effect 3 and they're ending further denigrate the idea that video games can be art I would agree that mass effect with its compelling plot and characters comes closer than most you just delete my thing come closer to most but changing the ending to fan reaction totally invalidates and maybe I'll feel different once i finish the game but it's still the weak sauce Richard I agree dude uh this is crazy and we talked about unloaded this morning it's like someone calling up Robert Zemeckis and being like hey back to the future three sucked right can you change it no I'm not changing it I mean I know it's easier to change a video game cuz there's you know there's not uh oh you know maybe it's not because there's a lot of reshooting that's gonna have to be done more motion capturing they're gonna get the actors back into record stuff and no I mean makes a really good point that people say that video games are art but when you you would never go up to someone like Georgia O'Keeffe and be like I don't see the flower in his painting can you redo it hey Ally oh yeah don't get it small elisa thing yeah or hey every modern art artist I don't get it not working for me change it she's smiling or what yeah she holding in a fart what's the deal ridiculous stop that you do that I don't like it and it sends the wrong impression where sends the wrong I'm ordering a burger at a restaurant and then sending it back put onions exactly this is a work of art works of are not meant honestly it's it almost falls into the same categories like the whole remix debate yeah you know sampling and stuff and it makes video gamers sound spoiled yes I think there's a very small sample size of the overall video game they did raise like Katie told a seventy five thousand dollars for charity rake it's a lot of money yeah so what does that mean well they're just have a lot of money I guess yeah moving along thanks for the email rich moving along we got a new new character been emailing us uh lately his name's dr. Mike yeah he comes from the great state of North Dakota and uh he sent us a picture which is funny dr. mike is a 55 year old doctor that plays our show in his waiting room wow isn't that a dangerous or that something we hear before you go to the doctors I don't know he says he loves us and so do his patients by and large ok so there's Jerry might still be out on that can he dr. Mike if you're listening to this can you take a photo of the lobby or the waiting room where yelling our show need that I really really want to see that he wants us to do a few things dr. Mike sounds like a cool whatever it is like I want to hang out with dr. Maha ok dr. Mike first says please mention between the folds which is a documentary on origami cool okay check it a queen the folds it's got five stars and amazon prime go check it out uh he's he's not in it it doesn't star him he just wants us to say it say between the folds he says origamis the pre everything a true force of nature I never knew until now its scope rocket of this line is the best at the end he says you're bad if you don't investigate this video it's amazing goes aged will bring money and start them to you bet my ranch on it bitches dr. Mike you are see you and out like mad don't get that is not that he's just sounds like a really interesting dude and if it's good enough for dr. Mike I will watch between the folds here it is on Amazon this is a PBS movie so you know it's good yeah I I mean I'm just gonna take this guy's work for a word for it he is a doctor even if you don't want to take his word for it it's got five stars out of 33 customer reviews on Amazon I trust that I do I truck man I trust that was doll amazon i'd miss bolivia movies are doubt it's gospel its total gospel right there um we've been talking a lot about the FAA and their decision to revisit the list of approved electronics on flights uh Joe from Phoenix says from talking with friends over the years who are flight attendants the real reason for not being able to use cell phones or electronic device is during takeoff and landing is because those are the most dangerous times of the flight makes sense wait laughing I'm just I'm sorry I'm still thinking about the patients and dr. myself listen to have to listen to our show why that's cool man the waiting room is always a very awkward experience is really questioning what the other people in the lobby you're thinking about it with diseases they have that you don't want to catch all right like very reluctant touch the magazines exactly so instead of having to deal with that awkwardness why not throw on our fine program right I wonder if they're listening to this podcast in the waiting room right now we watch oh don't pick up that people nice dad don't touch that don't touch that toy you know buddy sickkids if that's pretty good i like it um where was I you freaking interrupt me uh okay so he says landing and takeoff is the most dangerous he says and our electronic devices could become airborne quote-unquote missiles right during that those two landing landing and taking off possibly striking people potentially causing injury I don't know about that what if the plane were to get out of control obviously if the plane crashes no one cares right they're just being cautious um yeah I don't know we uh I I think it's got to do with the fact that yes it makes sense it is it is the most vulnerable time and maybe you want to cut down every sort of variable right which makes sense oh here's some more insight this is pretty cool um this is our buddy he calls himself geek in the cockpit he's actually a pilot himself on the subject of electronics on planes I am a commercial pilot for a major airline cool man don't listen to us while you're flying here's how phones interfere that I have experienced put a gsm phone next to a speaker near that ticking right imagine it in your headphones communication cables run the length of the plane you might be in row 45 but still over communication cable I hear it all the time often you're clicking in my headset it gets worse the closer I am to the ground very annoying and it can actually block communication the average person doesn't know gsm from HTTP thus all electronics have to be off great show longtime listener first-time complain yeah that's really uh insightful but we were also making the point that when you put it in airplane mode that turns off the right cell for radio but then why should you still not be able to use those electronics as a music device when the flight exactly I think again it just falls into the better state like a bar do you know what I mean that's that's what I'm thinking and can you not listen to music on your phone for like five minutes while the flight taking off is that too much to ask you know like just playing devil's advocate on the on the on behalf of the FAA you know like people can just not use their phones for ten minutes it don't think that's crazy to ask oh no no Joshua be right sin he also has a link for us in the email cell next to that if you want to click on that Justin please the 44 guys should be able to solve this ongoing battle in my house is it okay to golf the early bird special before work and then use one of these two just freshen up and what he's talking about did something called quick shower can we pull that up please golf the early bird specials going to golf before work or whatever and then use one of these things it's called a quick shower too what is golf said wife says no you can't use these Justin would you use a quick shower wipe before work up when going to work after you've biked to work so check it out these are these are Krishna they're basically like wet towel sized wet net right ah huge huge absolutely like I said they're towel sized wet-nap I've never heard of this this is disgusting sort of it if you imagine if you had a cut on your body and use a rub this on it it would stay like a mother it would sting this is really weird yeah is it not yeah imagine what I don't know like wiping your entire naked body with one of these you might as well just jump in the shops at second exactly if I mean if you can if you can get to every nook and cranny of your body with this thing right well guess what dude she's probably be in the shower anyway because you've really you know violated yourself it's not that it's it's 10 inches by 12 inch that's pretty big there's like you know that's that's like a paper yeah yeah okay and not it also this is like it's is but it's small up to where it's not enough space to actually wipe down your whole body you could you could get enough you know you know I'm it but the real estate would work out that being said if I was already married I wouldn't care about what my wife thought about it because you know in sickness and in health yeah I don't mean divorcing you for this dirtiness I guess unless you work with it I guess I guess uh we had a bunch of emails about getting 404 to play on your playstation 3 Chris from West Palm Beach where I used to frequent all the time when I was a young guy visiting my grandparents says first time I apologize for emailing from an AOL account I like that to help to follow the fellow listener with his inquiry about watching the 404 on a ps3 he's got a suggestion I don't know of a way to watch directly from the internet on the ps3 but I do have a way to that you can work around and he uses it and it works real well first download the podcast on iTunes the high quality version because you really got to see us up close and personal then use ps3 media server to stream the podcast so this is an app that you get for your pc I don't know if it works for Mac but you basically are using your computer to scream our show to your playstation 3 playstation 3 smells that on your network and then is able to use it so it's sort of like diversity that's what another email are suggested using to versity to stream the show from your computer to your playstation 3 that's probably the best way to do it so look up those two suggestions to versity it's TV ers ity or use chris's suggestion and going on itunes downloading it and then using the ps3 media server district i gamble i mean and i will verify because i can see his email not going to read it all for his privacy but he does indeed have an @ aol.com account it's crazy that is ridiculous would you respond to somebody if some like i would assume immediately that it's spam well how long does it take for an email to get back to nineteen ninety-six i don't know what we'll find out that is truly sad that's it we're gonna router here guys thanks so much for tuning in 866 404 cnet that's the number to call or email us not from your AOL address yeah the 404 dot cnet com thank you Kevin and I found this out because our too deep you big it's pretty awesome oh okay some programming notes tomorrow the talented Russell fresh dick will be on the program from vox games cool we're going to talk shop with him a lot of stuff about mass effect 3 and a lot of stuff about a video that's been circulating on the internet about game reviewers getting paid for good reviews I want to talk to him about that right his box is getting off the ground I want to really get his opinion brutal okay and next Wednesday we welcome back for the third time in 404 history The Great Escape order to ever live tony hawk will be back on the program that's awesome so we're all excited about that he's going to be talking about as cool twitter scavenger hunt contest that's going on yeah right limb dropping stuff too for sure we will be back tomorrow we'll see you then I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm Justin you it's the 404 high-tech lowbrow have a great thursday we'll be back tomorrow with russ fresh dick we'll see you then you
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