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it's Thursday March 29 2012 you tuned in to the 404 show streaming live from New York I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm Justin you and this is the show where we're laced with cinavia this is a little ribbon catch every once in a while when we I think we're having a good show this isn't a landmark episode or anything like that way is that it eats trees confetti know that idea it's the day after Tony Hawk day yes it is and what better way to follow up a mega superstar tony hawk on mega mega super with a mega mega mega superstar andrew stupid hendler xin the studio today it's never been referred to like that people but i don't like it this is this is like stupidest my middle name yeah correct you are there's a first for everything what's up do you thanks for coming on no problem yeah good to see you how you been I've been pretty good so comfortable are you with having your middle name be stupid on the internet I mean have you gotten that because I feel like every time you come on we make a reference to how stupid you are and but it's ironic because you're one of those that I now I don't know what about the layman that just types in Andrew hendler online and just sees stupid everywhere I don't change that potentially because stupid such a popular word making it helps my google pagerank i think it does i think it improves SEO for mr. handler i also think i had a website if you had a website yeah i also think the skewed the second i tweeted out today shows gonna be extra stupid yes with the 00 is very crib we got a dozen we got a dozen freaking @ replies like oh my god and people have completely like change their entire schedule around today yeah just to kind of sit listen to the show and do absolutely nothing else of course concentrate on every word they're dropping what they're doing they're tuning in to hear what you have to say yeah first thing we're going to cover with you look what's it that crap eating grin you've got on right let's talk about your little macbook air well I had this last time I was yeah between really get into the nitty-gritty so show the cow is really about they're you're running windows on your mac book a package it's funny that you ask Jeff actually as triple booting its triple be so sensitive on what is those your gmail want you want you hide some things there they go explain to me okay so you're running windows on your macbook air I'm if you spent spent 20 hours running windows mr. president can I call you out on this desktop by the way you have a what is this but that's not I know yes are you an a usual file are you a secret yellow fever having son of a bitch look that what are we looking at here I thought you would have like I don't know like import car girls or something on your desktop you have like a weird pagoda they know there's there's as I mentioned previously it's a triple booting situation okay there's different themes for each of the operating system so you got OSX obviously you a ton of yeah what is your pointer not a regular pointer and some sort of animated droplet okay so we're getting to the windows things which is 15 so okay very everyone I can't see the vision I edler changed his he changed his uh what is that that's winter pointer to a drain drop what is wrong sir 1995 I did that stuff when I was in Middle sitting the only good thing about windows that you can't do if you look at the entire theme as a whole yeah it's supposed to be sort of a Zen relaxer themed video great Explorer backgrounds are made of parchment yeah we're see-through weight that you can kind of see the building behind yeah yeah you are a sick sick man do you also have winamp installed on this computer as well is it really yeah what version a real player you gotta know this its Windows ME all right give it back to windows however is because i'll show you what about i mean the other cool this really is funny sort of seeing how how you love personalization in your window he's a tinkerer well i do but i want to show you something pretty interesting alright from a technology standpoint that's your opinion you know the shows about technology it's yeah i want you to just see the boot screen okay yeah cuz i show off my boo skreened everyone I me too yeah okay so you got uh uh I really different on Isaac's as i mentioned that windows seven and you've got a Linux option as well it's booting into windows right now without your permission I think it is the robe the robots are taking over but i got i got some linux mint on here 20 minutes how much of a pain in the ass it was to have a triple boot like that and how it's not even worth the effort did i tell you that didn't weren't you like i'm at that was some other person you were upset with the with how long it took i think of course okay it takes a while on a macintosh computer to triple boot sure much easier on a PC Brett if you got all the EF I'd type stuff yeah once you do it's it's it's pretty fantastic I think now that i have three operating systems 250 gigabyte salad state now on this little tiny computer cool where I SAT school I I feel like I'm river phoenix from sneakers that is references that's screen how it makes me feel great movie I regret asking you this question Andrew but why do you need to have three operating systems on one computer you have different software programs that require those like dr required linux vs mac person even though why do you find your sis why just switching between linux in line although just to do it it's to do it may it's not just to do it the change protects a kiss it's the thrill the case for you i know i mean you know in terms of how I set up without going into incredible detail and share what applications i used sure you know there's benefits and Linux's you know it's it's good to have it's a tool most everything is free if you want to do something you know you got a software repository able to grab it yeah like if you like board in the afternoon you're like i wanna you know compile the android colonel that's what i want to do my you're near in the native operating system you know like the mac laptops are obviously built to run OSX do so fantastic and it's like a fantastic experience but you also want windows on there for a couple reasons one you should run office I get it I can skin it yeah with water droplets exactly which makes it all worth it chat room thinks you're effing crazy by the way to each his own that's all I can definitely to your own I want to talk about the show title why we are laced with cinavia why are we laced with explain to me you I had no idea what's a navy was until a couple weeks ago when you SAT me down and said Jeff I need to explain to you what this insane audio watermark drm technology is known as cinavia its peak it's it's one of the most brilliant and maniacal at the same that's a great way to describe the type of DRM it's like that's available and it basically evolved from the type of copy protection they used for high definition audio yeah dvda yes sacd right that era and the idea is that there's two parts the one you have an audio watermark on the media to you have a detector built into a blu-ray player so it's a two-way system it's got to be on the media itself and on the player exactly okay and what happens is is it's it's in the audible range on the audio yeah you but you can't hear that humans can't hear you can't remove you can't just do a filter spread you you play it it contains the data payload you play it on your blu-ray player if and in the blu-ray player the detector basically you know reads the data and the data says what medium this movie or this audio right be all right so they can change so it says like you know for instance this movie should be on an aacs encrypted blu-ray gotcha if it's not then it kicks in and shuts at all red flags reason did you make backup copies of your blu rays it'll be unencrypted this case you're playing it from a file it'll be like this shouldn't be in a file yeah this should be the basic definition it's confusing but it's it's really interesting if you're like an audio guy like me in terms of how they go in and you know cuz it's an echo right like the echoes only I think like 50 milliseconds that it repeats right after the originally decipherable to human ear but it's so it's echoes in phase cancellation and a number of other things we don't know about yet but the brilliance of it is the fact that it has to be in the audible spectrum yeah but you can't hear it because otherwise could just remove the inaudible frequency and be gone right but that the uproar that it creates is because you know it's typically blu-rays and it's typically on the high definition audio channel is that you know audio files who buy that and have these high-end systems they can't hear it but they're like well this isn't really the master recording right getting some type of effect against it even though I can't detect it you know I can't that you know it's always like a feeling they're within their right to berea and you can still play it's this easy of of blu-rays sure yeah i still play unprotect I'm sorry you can still play place in a via protected disks on a media player that doesn't have the UH the watermark detector what's right basically the ACS so you can bypass it really easily as I just don't have a layer that however the ACS has mandated all blu-ray players manufacture a be right will contain that now that we've dozen that does and they need to do that o otherwise it won't pass that yeah they won't pass through the but I things like fresh it's like a WD live for a media streamer yeah don't have a blu-ray drive they're not bound by that right so the other thing about this that we should bring up because feeling for getting a little too technical for someone uh it's also you can't write you can't back it up you can't rip it you can't do anything with it besides only one thing and that's play it in a regulated blu-ray player right and there's like you know from from the standpoint of using your media in like a legal fashion like you want to rip a disc and you know potentially put it on your your ps3 sure sure and then be able to stream it it won't let you do that you know even if you bought it well there's there's concerns for people that are like enthusiasts and have right you know these media libraries and things of that nature it's seen and and I think the biggest footnote about this entire technology also that we haven't brought up is the fact that nobody's figured it out yet and every other drm sort of technology that's hit the market has been cracked or hacked and you know turned upside down cinavia is for the most part completely foolproof you know they get around for a bunch of year it's also not something that was implemented by the dr protectors themselves it's made by a company called ver ants yeah and they're making money off this by mincing that technology out like discs replicators distributors if the licensor's also pay I think it's like five cents per disc have the tsunami of Technology put onto it when users can just bypass that anyway it's really the its current area money it's a little scary for period but you know if you an old blu-ray player that doesn't have a cinavia detector you know at a certain point in order to play new blu rays because of you know bd+ or BTW java your need going to need to update your firmware right they're going to put it in so it can be implemented through software yes huh even more scary I mean it's not completely that's what Sony did with the ps3 because it didn't exist in they released with a firmware update and people weren't sure if you know had some type of hardware element which allowed it to do that right all right that leads us into another conversation let's get right into it a playstation the next playstation is for ps4 whatever the hell they're going to call it a lot of rumors hit in the internet yesterday uh kotaku got their hands on a leak quote unquote I'm just sorry I've become so numb and desensitized to all these next-generation console rumors it's tough to take any of them seriously but again this one comes out says that the next PlayStation will hit the market in 2013 I don't think that'll happen personally supposedly it's named Orbis codename Orbis which just doesn't mean anything to anybody either because it's going to be co playstation 4 whatever but the real details are what sort of uh I guess you know making people talk it will supposedly only lock games into a single PlayStation Network account there will be no backwards compatibility so any PlayStation 3 game that you have on a disc doesn't sound like it'll be able to be played on the PlayStation 4 and the most shocking of all it will have some sort of technology built into it that will prevent you from playing a used video game ok so the ramifications of that final detail are endless not only does it in one fell swoop just completely eliminate things like gamefly yea and things like uh gamestop ever hear that multi-billion dollar chain so I don't know I think what I what do you think and there what do you think that this is really sort of I don't know knows if it's all confirmed or true Sony's not confirming or denying well what do you think this sort of means for the future of gaming I mean I think the reason behind it goes to the conversation we're having for is largely because you know Sony is is always like a leader in terms of DRM yeah you know they have the most prolific blu-ray player would share his three implements navy amongst other things first when the ps3 was hacked i think that that you know that scared them and that's why that they with the ps4 with these particular rumors they want to make it as lockdown as possible but i think the ramifications are you know it's really really bad it's getting to the point where it's so much more strict than what we would consider you know with movies or blu rays and they've always sort of been on par you know when blockbuster you know when going to the store and renting a movie was probably you always go in you know rent a game yeah and do that now you're at the point where well you can rent movies or you can do this or do that but you can't do that with games of course so i think i think that's a concern yeah especially with the cost of games because it you know a movie is cheaper you know you might be able to see in the theater first or do some of it when you buy a game and the reason think investing is like gamefly it's a big investment you want to be able to play it exactly if you like it and it's not like necessarily a movie where you watch it once you might if you really like you might watch it a couple times but the game has a ton of replay value to or sure so it's not like by allowing people to rent games you know people are not going to then go and buy it it's a totally different dynamic don't you think that by preventing and pretty much ending all kinds of used games and sharing and stuff like that i mean i don't think i think they are severely under estimating how much of an impact this will have on people's decision to buy games at all if i'm buying a sixty-dollar game a part of me is saying hey worst case scenario finally like this thing i'm just going to trade it back in and get half my money back at the very least or sell on eBay maybe get back ninety percent of my money that mentality is such a contributing factor to somebody buying a video game from the get-go that I feel like that you know decision workflow has not been considered by the people potentially making these decisions yet to the point where it ends of it yeah it's it the best advertising for the game is renting it I mean that's you get to basically try it you you'd play it for a couple days then you get to figure out if you want to buy it right same thing you're saying in terms of resale value or selling there's a lot of little markets or lots of little things that people do before they buy game that you're completely eliminating and price-wise I mean you know with with iOS or Android you know you can buy games for significantly cheaper granted it's not like on a console right but keep that I think that moves you know people's mentality on what the dollar value of getting to be for you're seeing it a little bit with like Vita too obvious so lockdown well in terms of price and the price those games versus I'll go to the App Store buy this for this price so it's interesting I bring that up with the lockdown think as the Vita is super lockdown transferring a movie file from the computer to it is brain surgery I mean it's easy enough but it's just tedious and the workflow takes a lot of time um but also think about it like growing up right when you were playing Nintendo or say or say whatever it was and you're like okay dude i'll come over and I'll bring my copy of Sun it can go plate like that is a huge part of your you're growing up and your childhood with gaming like this sort of sees that coming to an end yeah you know like that's a big deal like I'm sure you were you did stuff like that growing up like hey man bring over your copy of jet motor will race to be sick but you know you gotta be able to do that why don't you know I'll see no you won't bring your game over to some know it does only work in the player that yeah it does it cuz that's technically a used game is to basically matches I guess with one particular console it'll like solidify Adam now on your console there's also over or maybe they'll have some sort of thing where you can sign in on someone else's console and then you know pop that out yet maybe that already I mean do you really think they'll just eliminate that you know pure or sort of experience of sharing against i mean i think that the bigger question and we're talking about this a little bit before is why why are they doing this is it is it do they feel like it's going to generate more revenue in terms of that or is it strictly you know a means to further lock it down because i don't want it to be hacked I think it's the latter because as we've discussed you don't generate more revenue this way it what yeah and that's that's the perplexing thing about it's like why are why are they doing it can't be there they've clearly cannot think they cannot rationally think that this will equal more money they can't think that way I just I can't see that happening well yeah and I thinking because even with used games and stuff right the way it's set up now if i buy a used game from gamestop and I go home and I want to play online and it's a used game that's like an EA game that requires a pass to play online I gotta pay another ten bucks that's money money being generated right there dlc stuff like that i don't think that you know piracy is definitely a problem but i think it's much more so in terms of music and movies and games it's out there but you the level of sophistication you need in order to be able to do that is much greater so I I can't imagine that that's particularly hurting Sony in the video game developers enough to you know limit ordinary consumers into kind of doing some of the behaviors we discuss yeah it's really scary i feel like the second and it's not just games its books it's movies it's it's music I don't know what it was like the second when that you were able to buy something that wasn't tangible that wasn't in your hand right the second like this CD is gone and it's just zeros and ones on a drive somewhere we lost of right we lost like a possession already sort of thing like it's all rented now and it's all sort of virtual at me personally I think the future of games right now is like subscription-based stuff I think like what call of duty does now they have like the elite membership where it's like 50 bucks a year and you're a call of duty player for 50 bucks a year you're going to get all this continued follow up digital content you're going to get all that but it's for price of a year and that sort of just eliminates used games cuz no one like wants to give away game once they remember right you know I feel like that's where we're going whether or not that's the right way you know I mean what do you think about that I don't think that's completely unreasonable actually the worst thing especially if you're you're you're signing up with the expectation that you're going to get new content it's going to be in hand it's going to be a map for sure I think that I think that subscription sort of thing that's probably the lesser of two evils yeah I mean there's development time that has to go into making those modifications so I don't have a problem with that especially if you could sign in on your home console or and then go to a friend's house and be able to do it there yeah i mean that's reasonable it's interesting tell us what you think 866 for for CNN will take a quick break when we come back more with not so stupid Andy and then while calls from the public and a lot more fun keep it here we'll be right back this is the 404 mr effers the show where we all sing songs you welcome back to the 404 man i want i want an elephant I just want to hang out with an elephant you guys wanna hang out with elf I don't think I've ever oh no no I don't know how much fun it would be but it sounds like something well that should be video made me just want to chill out with an elephant this is that elephant playing with a samsung galaxy note by pressing its trunk against the screen yeah what's interesting you know it's like the galaxy no it's so big that even an elephant can you know like sweet all the elephants are like you swayed finally I want to see an elephant play draw something with no no what would you do with it if you hung out with Alvin what would you do I don't know crap myself I'd be like oh my god you a 40 tons rooms are smarter than you think that yeah have you seen those videos I know elephants entirely draw their own portrait whoever they draw the picture yet yeah he's all set up in front of the elephants and they paint brush and then draw a self portrait that's amazing yeah it's incredible never hurt anything like that I just think the fact that they have a trunk that's basically a hand like they can do everything a hand can do more or less right that's kind of cool that they just they're so cool like that it'd be cooled they also hands but so that's not nobody won think about how terrifying of a creature that would be you used to it like this and the freaking strunk I'd be like I got so much done I know they would be super productive that would be the elephants thing rather than like never forgetting it would be productivity yeah good leave it alone feeling moving right along oh that's nice snuck up right on me now it happens that's a that is how it happens it's a story that happened a few days ago we're gonna get a little serious real quick um it happened a few days ago and we've been pressured to cover it by people emailing and tweeting what do we think of this so I guess we'll we'll try and cover this the best way we can of course you know the news going on with Spike Lee ah he incorrectly tweeted the wrong address yeah for the UH you know the George Zimmerman um schmuck down there who apparently you know uh killed this kid yes we were gonna cover the whole right we're gonna talk / you know Trayvon Martin story right but now it's become like a tech element it has a tech element that's come out of it and now it's when keeping it real goes wrong Twitter edition when keeping it real goes wrong uh-huh did you go over that no that's a Chapelle show skit come on all right okay anyway so uh when laughing it real goes wrong last Wednesday this guy name is marcos de von Hagens he sent out a tweet uh claiming he had discovered the address of George Zimmerman the guy who write you know shocked when he clearly just went to a phone book and looked up any old George Zimmerman not only that but he also posted on Facebook yeah sent it out to his four thousand Twitter followers and even made a sign here I'll show a picture to you guys I'm scared it's a sign that he made that he brought to protests that featured the address and the phone number of who he thought was George W Zimmerman turns out uh well there's three things that went wrong after this number one that's the wrong George Zimmerman that's actually an address belonging to a guy named william george zimmerman hmm who i will now call w gz brevity's sake sure second of all w gz doesn't live at that location anymore it's now populated by his two parents both over 70 years old he hasn't lived there for seven years so ours wrong George Zimmerman yeah there isn't live there there are so I love how we like continue to show this poor person's address there there are so many things wrong with this the third thing that went wrong with it though is that since last Wednesday he's been making such a stink about it that Spike Lee actually actually retweeted the original tweet with the wrong address in it right to his 240 thousand followers right and said didn't he say something like why don't you go out and reach out and touch them or something that was the original tweet from Marcus Higgins that said go out reach out touch him since then apparently uh the couple uh Elena claims like this poor elderly couple were like what the hell is he wit er yeah did no idea what what was going on people sent uh envelopes i guess the radio with the skittles thing is the whole thing's becoming a bigger the type of fallout from from this particular thing well these neighborhood right I I there was no way I mean I would you know sue the pearl I think I think people like the original guy and and uh spike lee are totally liable right without a doubt they're gonna mean it's and i watch an interview with the elderly couple this morning they're like we don't want them we don't want to you know get any money out of this you just want people to stop being more whores and that's that's a huge deal and I feel like still I don't care how famous you are I don't care how you know silly or stupid you are Twitter's freaking powerful man right I think that would it old tomato check your sources check your crap I mean this is Daisy that's the whole idea behind and winter yeah you know the fact that you that instant gratification and you can kind of put anything out there it's it's it's it's just basically run by and the power holders are people that are famous and lots of fires and you can say whatever you want without verifying and things like this happen it's just for sinuses go all this is not the first it'll not be the last what I don't understand is what goes through the mind of someone like Spike Lee and just says like okay I'm gonna write this okay cuz you're either way you're probably gonna get in trouble okay but even if no one touches this you're going to get into right address even Atlanta action were you in Sakai no idea right well we're discussing well when Spike Lee looks at his Twitter account on his computer monitor he sees 204,000 people right right but the followers doesn't match up with your mentality when you actually see 204 that like if there were a room full of 204th I don't think it's that one say let go and uh you know I mean it's a good point but it's also it goes back to the instant gratification yeah it's just the idea that what is going through his head it's a manga nothing he can do that within three seconds right you know and it's so can anybody out the heat of the moment exactly it's like a in the moment of passion but the problem is is that dude someone ok out of 200,000 people I'm willing to bet there's 0 a dozen people who are maybe millions okay so even so now you're giving out an address and let's say someone goes over and kill the real George Benoit dude that's called accessory to murder maybe I would be a hundred percent case come on your purse anything about liability do you think in this particular case or in cases similar that like Twitter is actually liable no no I don't because Twitter's Terms of Service explicit state you cannot post card intial or personal information about someone's address which is why I'm advocating for spike lee's Twitter account to be taken that he needs to be yes to be recommended there's no doubt about our nightly now newest movies are and they are greater i loves me he's an amazing artist he's a great guy there you go right they do the right he's an amazing filmmakers amazing artist but this was a bonehead move yeah and that's that's what it is yeah i mean he's already apologized on twitter for it but that's not over this couple the damage has been done i can't go back into that house he's gotta gotta buy them a new house in an undisclosed location is what he's got to do just to start i'm all for you know freedom of speech but there's obviously a limit when it creates you know such a negative situation for innocent people yeah how do you please something like this i did how do you how do you prevent things like this oh you can't you cannot prevent it the second we all got online that was it it's over okay so you all you can do is educate and you you know people uh you know it's the same old thing of like don't take don't take candy from strangers you know i mean it's like that mentality like protect yourself yeah and it extends to the online world that we all live in now it is really scary that these celebrities wield so much power right with work great followers comes great responsibility that's true yeah i mean like we're putting essentially this power in the hands of people that are just like us you know they can make mistakes now scarce interesting it is we'll move along just because it just gets me so mad a bonehead well I like I loves and I really want is best about a maneuver effing stupid of you to do that I no way mad no one's happy about what hi saw this dude this is like loosely connected and I get to real quick but saw this Facebook documentary the other day yeah and basically was called there wasn't no social no no it was have you seen it there was there was a technology teacher to particular school that had certain privacy settings with facebook which he went on to just vent about all the parents yeah and then she got fired yeah I found out and she blamed Facebook right and I'm like well why you know she thought her privacy was fun but I'm like you're a tech teacher can't you you know think hey if I rail on the parents of the kids I'm teaching in online forum yeah you know can that possibly get back to someone maybe I could just do it with my family and friends in private oh so it's it's just like even people that are apparently like very well educated like obviously it's not a great story you hate to see stuff like that ever happened but it's just like people who are supposedly very you know it's Peck is her profession sure she goes you know online and just does a bad mouth people in people so it just doesn't register with some people i think uh i mean if you're blaming facebook you might as well blame taco taco bell mcdonald for making you fat yeah you might as well blame Marlboro cigarettes for giving you lung cancer I mean it's like you know what I mean it's this it's just the same thing might as well they do it keyboard manufactures for making car referral that allows you to go to those words exactly I met it you know it's like really let's get ridiculous yeah don't do responsibility take responsibility for so stop eating cheeseburgers will you all right I want to get into this story uh let's talk about Kanye West before I would've liked a lighter note okay but uh you know it teaches the same lesson that tech journalists need to verify their information before blowing things up on the internet so yesterday Evan was kind of freaking about it out about this website who dat dot biz hmm right this is a website claiming to be like one of the first sight offsprings of Kanye West tech startup that he announced earlier this year in January called dhanda but the idea is that if you went to who dat dot biz they claim to be the facebook for websites essentially giving you the same tools as who is reka that's like a IPO goes coughing who ownership stirred and who owns a website right um so yeah basically all these different tech journalists pundits reported it was in The Washington Post is in Business Insider on Twitter um Kanye West has not made a comment about it but uh his moto BuzzFeed both did their due diligent research i found out that it's fake and uh you know we've been duped by stories like this before fucking stunts commercials etcetera course uh you know this is something that could potentially hurt Kanye West brand uh not a huge fan of the guy but it turns out that is a prank by two guys from a digital agency called okay focus uh and they decided a prank uh Kanye West to show how easy it is to pull something like this and I I think that wish this would spark a conversation between us about how transparent the Internet is and how easy it is come up with this kind of thing in fool people what's not even that it just make news for you so it's the game of telephone you know uh in in our world of like first to market and first to break scoops and and and and stories like that right people do it everyone's like I'll check your facts check your should know right I think that's the real villain here is the desire to be first the fur everything for sure and this exploited that desire for sure what so it's to be first but it's also the idea that in order to be first especially in like the digital age you have to be so fast yeah i'll for sure to be second you had so fast that it is impossible for you to have checked your sources because you're so fast right i mean the desire to be first isn't something new it was something you could do you know when people receive their news primarily from television news and newspapers and not the internet um there was some due diligence that you know just that that could be done because you know you can't update that in seconds right you know time to show that goes on a particular time right it you know you you publish your paper every morning right which is why which is why the future of human existence there will be no news channels it'll just be like a collective hybrid hive minded existence right where there is no reporting there is just life right and that's and you know i'm just of digital virtual representation of that well how do you find out what's accurate just the question will most of the way most abysm of the crap that's what that's how it is now that's how it is now that it's it's small it's in it's sort of infantile stage but that's how it is now that's that's how I get all my news on Twitter this is the collective mass is all sort of yet agreeing on Spike Lee tweeted it then it must be true it's that sort of thing is it's kind of ridiculous because all gizmodo had to do it's not like they had to you know spend hours on the phone or find the sources they literally just plugged huda who dat dot is into a Google Analytics ID and found that the tumblr was created yesterday so there's no way that Kanye would have okay then that's that in one day and that's all they had to do which led to a phone call with the the advertising firm that made the original prank yeah that's it that's what any other news organization would have done it took maybe ten more minutes I don't know man the future of news hey I love it just don't trust anything you read on these websites that I logs on in five seconds there you go a new survey out makes me feel a hell of a lot better about what happened me this last weekend well according to the Jane Doe new survey out says 33 is now the best age you can possibly be right I don't believe that this is according to a survey of 33 year olds yeah I think I'm closest in the room to them what are you oh I'm going to be 32 in three weeks reach to the countdown the 33 starts yeah based on the survey I'm just filled with excitement I don't know if you can tell because you have literally an entire year leading up to the best age you could possibly be I know it's awesome I don't know what I'm gonna do like do they suggest any like things that are really awesome at 33 yeah you know I like it this is gonna be bad for you uh this is a survey from friends United they say that seventy percent of people over the age of 40 said their happiest at their age um and then six percent they said they were happiest in their college years sixteen percent said they were happiest during their childhood years but one in three that said they were happy over the age of 30 attributed that to children so you have a lot of work to do in the next year my friend you gotta get busy bro let's get busy now yeah so the they're saying that uh you know by the age of 30 most of their innocence is lost they know more about the world they've met somebody which attributed to their happiness fana clauses in real they defecate stuff yeah after the age of 30 which also attributed more to their hats sure so I don't know none of us have kids in this room so I have I don't stop I don't have kids in a year I'm gonna be my Serbian just be depressed there's no other reasons around 33 like you know the peak of your physical strength and areas yeah it can't be you the peak of your physical strength they're not your physical strength your sexual prowess form a cording to men and women in the study four minutes later than women for men I think I thought women it's later than my exact all correct right especially right I thought it was like literally like the age 19 for men and 48 for Ivan or something like that well I think there's a difference between sexual peak yeah and is a cool prize exact right sure absolute so this is what the survey is saying is that people were talking about how they've hit their sexual stride because they know more they have more experience right they you know without getting into more details they can attract younger guys or girls if you want to you know absolutely so you might a man have some hope left for you I'm feeling good at 30 now tell you that no I know III can't imagine having kids by 33 I don't see any way possible for that to happen yes I unless it's an accident that's all done every day then hey man mistakes are made you know people have to change it yeah we're not drinking tonight who knows what I'll who knows the possibilities are endless let's get to a few calls and poke before we have to go time to show the love eight hoorah for Xena yeah she seemed like I said new that's awesome well I haven't heard I owe you get out of here I don't know maybe we just don't do them when you're here oh no I me to watch the show too but I like I was gonna say what the f man I watch every time I clearly ah this one is a girl calling up she's a little upset with us that we didn't know a certain soccer player hey 404 this is Portland from Judea and I'm calling because I was out of town on business on business and I'm a little bit behind on episodes but while listening to episode 10 11 I almost had a heart attack when I realized neither one of you guys knows who Lionel Messi is and seriously you guys come on he's like one of the best soccer or football players of all time and he just became the top goal scorer for Barcelona Football Club so please tell me that ever since that episode aired you guys went to youtube and search for his video he's nasty Lionel Messi did you know who that was I only know the name messy cuz i play fifa right so like you play as all the good teams and you get you know you you know him it's the best way to get acclimated with any sports anchors video game it's like how I know rooney & ronaldo and all those dudes judges soccer video games are amazing i'm reading this right now turns out he was also on the cover of pro evolution soccer oh nine and love it yeah that's that's I feel that's the lesser of the two in terms of popularity right of the video game world but still yeah I don't you know I'm sorry look I like soccer you know it's it's it's a it's an American phenomenon that it's not popular here I used to be fantastic at soccer I don't know if you could tell I was actually going to say you come off as one as a very skilled soccer player I you know that's not one of the things that that first learn about me yeah but it's not the last thing either if you know what I mean I I guess I'm not sure I dunno there's no matter what I mean so we can listen um this is what is this such a sneaky everybody I'm on the phone whose voice yelling this and that sound people play that again yeah it is what it sounds like a teenager in the Simpsons hi everybody I'm on the car what's the lasting say I'm on the floor for a manga manga something about a million a million i don't know maybe I maybe I just love people losing their minds that is that like a sound clip now no I we could kind of probably make whenever there's just that drunk dial or hi everybody I'm on the great you need you need that and use that in ideal circumstances when I was listening to make this I'm I was like what like it's pretty good finally like she might make it my boot up sound on my macbook every time you minimize a window how do you get that but you customize your sense to you by Derek a lot of Muppet talk lately i watch the elmo documentary we're talking to boost our friend ella morton who got the interview Cookie Monster and Burton Elmo yeah let's let's hear this hey Jeff Justin and I guess you got Richard of priests oh but your voice acting and the whole thing about the Muppet and actually Grover's voice is the same thing as the same guy who does notice voice so you look thank God yeah it's pretty much the same guy Franco's so you think of broker with uh with a regular English I guess Ronald english-speaking way though whoa close it wow you are very nice thanks for the cookie so thank you all so kind of switch enough somehow I don't know how but yeah it's which is out somewhere he is good good it see yes he's right man over is Yoda right it's crazy that's interesting i just learned something you today you learn something yeah fantastic that's what yours does like a tunnel oh my thing oh yeah yeah he's got original he's gotta be burped too right I think so it's gotta be burped and I feel like Ernie is uh was Henson yes right they were definitely like hanging out together and I feel like you would do a really good Yoda impression I mean I don't wanna be like you I feel you'd be wrong that I'm really not not that I wouldn't pray would if I could but you know I can't do any accent whatsoever okay it's terrible maybe rent like that mmm like no I mean that was that I'm here that know uh I would it be good it wouldn't be funny would be not fun people would turn off yeah never again never again well we'll have you back again we promise thanks for bjs always a pleasure always a lot of fun likewise the feeling is mutual sir give us a call guys 866 404 cnet or you can email us the 44 at cnet com tomorrow on the show I will not butcher her name anymore chenda will be on the program right okay chenda neck neck I think I'm cbsnews com we might have screwed up her last name but it's fine she will correct everything for us tomorrow yes we'll have a lot of fun with her until then we will see you later I'm Jeff Bakalar man i'm justin you a big thanks to stupid Andy not so stupid any time gentlemen alright it's for for high-tech lowbrow have a great thursday and we will be back tomorrow you