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it's thursday april fifth 2012 it's the 404 show still streaming live on cnet TV i'm jeff bakalar and i'm justin you and i really wish i could do the voice but I'm not gonna this is the show where we were monitoring that scan yes you are terminated so back to the future once again creeping into our news of the day and just a sting operation it's funny we're finding every day that science fiction movies are dictating our technological advancements they really are the Marty McFly shoes right those have become realities hoverboards very hard is happening Minority Report blade runner they all seem to come back and bite us yeah the jits was right after all it was right um so the big headline yesterday or at least has been making a lot of news lately is what Google has sort of been teasing right with their Google glass project now before we even get into this the first thing so you watch that video yeah I watch them can you play so people know like what exactly we're talking about if they get the luxury of watching our video podcast we're talking about right now is sort of a day in the life of what google calls Project Glass and this is the this is basically the materialization of what we talked about earlier earlier this year this is their augmented reality goggles and they sort of just uh you know everything you do from like eating breakfast to making calls taking photos these glasses sort of project an image on top of what you're seeing in real life so to weather information dry text messages etc so it's basically taking augmented reality to the next level there you go you're walking I mean look they have a lot let's just play audio for a second year so they're showing you you know a map walking directions or going oh yeah dogs come up to you here this is cool this is all around my neighborhood they actually show my apartment crime a device for was yo gano tonight that is it is definitely aimed towards the generation of people that section that part pissed I liked it to go into the strand bookstore that's kind of cool i mean this is really just like hipsterville 15 pounds kind of ironic that he's using a google glasses go into a bookstore all here yeah yeah and it's weird that his vision is fish-eyed but anyway so this is got a cool his friend also has a pair of the glasses and I he can shares locations they will meet up really easily then go get coffee and probably not talk to each other because they have a lot of information right so Google sees a world where everyone dresses the same yeah no but seriously they you know they've they've really sort of turned a lot of people's heads with what they are ambitiously aspiring to achieve sure um and I think it's really cool I think it's sorry you really do think it's cool cuz I think you would have a field day by making fun of this oh can you pull up so so on the google glass page they sort of show um examples of what these apparatuses would look like they yeah but it's like google.com / Claire whatever it is and uh they're like very thin sort of streamlined uh I glasses I guess the best way and they're not even glasses they just sort of a flap that fold down here you have it up on your screen right it's sort of like a face band right you would take a headband and pull it over your eyes right um so that they're talking about several different designs this is a prototype like I said earlier but they're talking doing them so having one for people that are ready wear eyeglasses you know what you can just stick over them right which sounds really cool to me um I don't know to me I'm looking at this and I'm thinking what about your peripheral vision on the right hands yeah right like what about just cars coming on your right right if I'm in New York City and I'm trying to make my way through the danger streets in New York City trying to pay attention to one traffic into my little heads-up display yeah get it by trucker think yeah I mean a lot of people are immediately take the argument oh this is gonna distract everyone from walking weather than they already are you know we have problems with people being distracted driving now it's gonna be walking yeah but I mean okay so let's really break this down here when you have a phone in your walking in your hand you're looking down ya know that students an opportunity to look forward at the same time shake the same ideas putting augmented reality in your drivers your shield sure so I don't know it might actually prevent some people from walking into the middle of the street the problem i have with the video is that there are a lot of things that get activated without them ever saying anything he just like he gets a pop-up so how does he activates the pop-up like had like he sees he's got six messages right he just goes huh and the freaking messages are reading themselves right you know like i know it's all doesn't exist and it's just sort of like a prototype video or let not even proof of concept but just like a ambitious sort of video right like how is that gonna work how will you select certain things it's all gonna be voice well some of it will be voice like dictation through sending text messages but also in this blog they talk about having physical buttons on the glasses themselves rights if you want to pick up a call or whatever sure like you would with a bluetooth headset you would just press the button right activate but i don't know so my problem with this is that I feel like technology uh that you wear is supposed to take to like it supposed to make these easier and right it's supposed to take tech away from you but usually it's supposed to sort of be seamless yeah it's uh get it out of the way right right you don't want to have to pull the phone out of your pocket sure but I don't know so my biggest problem is that when he walks in a strand instead of actually talking to somebody he says where is the UH what is it like the calm music so music section right when you just ask the guy standing right there yeah and as to everyone else is gonna seem like this dude is just talking to himself yeah i mean look people already talk to themselves that's not something new we've all learned to live with that hated or love it it's a reality i guess when bluetooth headsets came out the second you know hugging yourself became and even that and why are some people i don't i never understood this why do you people think you need to talk louder when you're on the phone do you really mean there's like a certain thing like if I'm at a restaurant so and and that people are all having conversations I get like yeah you're right in front of somebody when your phone rings you're like oh hey yeah i'm in the restaurant you'd understand that why people are people just start speaking louder I think it's the same idea as when you have headphones on you just block out so much of the outside noise right feel like oh you're the king of that yeah probably not doing intentionally but little pet peeve I have on the ice I yeah I know you thought I was gonna hate all over this kind of into it I just think it's I don't know any and it also is cool because it makes its it's sort of them almost saying like your move Apple yeah you know like this thing already works better than Cirie and it's not even real yeah that's gonna be my biggest issue with it is that it does give a lot of privacy issues right i mean how easy is it for you to just record a conversation no just by you know flicking your finger up in the air yeah you can do that or recording a movie is gonna be a lot easier to I guess you know there's no way to tell when people are recording you I liked when he saw that pic that graffiti and he's like oh this is cool yeah pick a photo this and you just like closes his eyes like that leaks twice you know yeah I was there spot like weird facial movement take a photo of this google goggles yeah you just said blake 17 times to take a photo i like that i like yeah there's a lot of parody videos that have already come out making fun of has there been yeah yeah well we'll show one for this but you know you made a good point that a lot of their inspiration came from things like back to the future true man there you go yeah this out of the phone what was her name Marlene McFly and uh Marty McFly jr. jr. yeah even breeze look cooler than the Google they do look cooler and it makes it's amazing though how we just sort of evolved to that yeah you know what I mean the flying car yesterday do you remember these this is what I think Google based their design off of the infamous cap shout and shoot too yeah I wanted this so bad when I was a kid this was uh this is basically like a voice-activated water gun that you mount onto your like a like a HUD right basically and it has a microphone that comes down I remember the commercial very distinctly to the kid would just be like fire fire fire yeah it would shoot his birds of water out of his ear it wasn't you could say anything though yeah it didn't obviously know the word fire right you could say like romaine lettuce romaine like cat poop and it would shoot water is so cool i love how it's got this like reticle around his eye right because that's where the water is going yeah that's how you aim your water aid so that's where the waters gonna go it was very always wanted one of these things that came with a belt clip that house the water was right on reservoir was so cool was cool and I would always imagined doing like and this is around the time that like Terminator came out too sure late eighties early night yeah imagine having like to super soakers in your hand and this head mounted water gun it's pretty free man playground my friend it's pretty awesome man I want to get one of those bed I missed I and I never had the fortune to get my hands on those I want these bad ladies one of these bad Larry imagine having this of a water shooter in the Google going to be sick that's what they need you know I mean clearly where's that functionality see you buy into this I'm into it man i justthe mean I don't want to wear that stuff yeah like that's the whole thing with me I don't a night I don't want to wear 3d glasses I don't want to wear a google glass I just want Bionic implants yeah well that could be sort of coming soon I guess the same guy that designed the glasses also made contact lenses with augmented reality's thing to me if you do is like you know I mean like if we're doing that if we have this optical apparatus that straddles our face well like come on that sounds pretty invent just put it in my eyeball yeah you know is that another thing attached I don't want any sort of implant let me take a step back I don't want any I don't have to go under the knife right which let me just like pop a little contact in my eye well okay crazy no that's not crazy but it would also totally hide the fact that you have this in your eyes exactly creepier why oh so so it's okay if I have a headband across my eyes and then you know so a photo of ghazals you know and then it's yeah richview yeah watch the video today videos usual expression I just and the the vanity shots of it are funny because it's like Google saying like look a chic this is right look how you know elite but you know what they don't show in the heads up display is all the ads that are probably gonna get put into your face that are like literally right in your eye now is not going to be free or if it is free those ads will subsidize it yeah you know it really gets your paranoid you can really go down a very ugly spiral and just sort of contemplate ok so now Google owns my freaking eyesight do you know I mean yeah we talked about NFC technology and ads popping up as you walk by like a starbucks preble to say oh within the next hour if you buy a coffee from here and scan your phone right you get if like you know thirty percent off that's gonna happen in your face now how terrifying is that I don't want that it's like look left Jeff what huh yeah oh whatever that car but it just says that oh geez all right let's uh let's move right along our own good friend I love that face you do take a photo google glass good like everyone just flopping around to trying to take photos of their stupid anyway Emily Dreyfus good friend of the show good friend of ours personally and professionally mm-hmm she she wrote something yesterday that really got the attention of a lot of people titled iphone users colin android is ruining our instagram club yeah guess what Emily Nohr be in your stupid Club anyway your enemy like what kind of Club is this yeah do you do I know what she's talking about do you know what she means he's she's talking about Instagram yeah and so Instagram rolled out for android users I think two days ago or yesterday yes it did and so now you know is starting to see a lot more people joining that feed apparently according to some tweets that we're looking at here instagram users that use iphones originally are pissed because they think that people that use android phones have crappy taste based on the lower price of the handsets right so this is it right here it's like social racism right is what it is right away listen to what these freaking elitist dork said Joel on Twitter Instagram went from a gated community to section eight in one day boom go F yourself you freaking elitist ran with it look at that how dare you even say that that is that is offensive yeah mella Montana says Instagram just went from a country club to a club in the country all in one day what these people should be arrested yeah oh like they should be arrested I know that some people are using the word ghetto to which is terrible like I was looking up twitter feed I mean then you then it goes from the joking raisin thing right to a straight-up racism yeah it's unbelievable so I'm not gonna be speaking for iphone users here though I do have an iphone and have Instagram on it but people are saying that okay they're drawing a line between the inexpensive price of Android smartphones along with the cheaper data plans that you had that you would pay for versus the 100 dollar minimum iphone plan plus the 299 minimum subsidized price of the ATT and Verizon right so you have to pay more right if you want an iphone and they're saying that some for some reason they're gonna take shittier photos based on the cheaper price of the handsets is that true first off that makes my blood boil that type of mentality number yeah they're also saying that maybe because they spend less they live in crap your areas sorry photos they take won't be of as pretty well maybe you're deluded sense of value where you think that just because you buy a more expensive handset it puts you in this elite classification right you are oh my god and don't forget that you can choose to follow whoever you want you on it on Instagram you know yeah and if people want to follow you they can do that but you don't have to follow them back I'm a voluntary opt-in social network you see I I don't think Emily was anticipating this sort of uh feedback well she wasn't this was a news report I'm not saying she is of course now when Emily very well she is not a crazy person like some of the people who are tweeting here right let's let's let's really get that out there and clear that up well we've talked about uh socioeconomics in relation to Android versus iPhones before all that thought real quick okay that I paid more for a Galaxy Nexus is added to 99 IP 299 for what for my iphone oh okay and he'll punch is your monthly plan it's like well with this with the discount I pay like 80-something on honesty I pay a hundred so you know rights beyond instr I'm actually deleting it even download bullion Faberge eggs were you taking photos oh and you do it in a sepia filter yeah so you know how free and trendy and cool haha me break I take this you know it's it's ridiculous what what do you better think the photography community said once all you idiots got your hands on these filters yeah you think you're all like hey welcome to the club fellow photographer they're like no you're ruining the aesthetic right it's the same damn thing and now you're turning it around on Android users let's get up off a bridge rule won't take an Instagram photo when you get down there the fact that anyone can afford a smartphone is some first World crap right like I mean anyone that can pay over 50 ten twenty thirty forty dollars you know should be able to use whatever apps for sure let's go back to this hunch survey that we talked about actually last year yeah let's this breaks down some of those those socioeconomic stats they're saying that Android users uh eighty percent more likely to actually have a high school degree so that goes against what iphone users are safe well I don't like to you know draw attention to my achievement wait a minute wait a minute don't you agree the weird Sideshow Bob la fifty-seven percent of Android users are more likely to prefer an uglier device if they can get it for cheaper climb out and if it has more full-featured time the F out uglier is subjective that's true okay point is moot move on okay so uh but 71 percent are more likely to have never left their native countries so if you're into travel though not a comma maybe you're not going to be seeing anything internationally get addie what is how do they even figure out a freaking out of left field statistic like that that makes sense though what is how does that make sense because Android Instagram users are probably gonna be posting photos of the inside of their apartment right yeah and I want to see photos andfull tower it'll be the inside of their apartment and the line at the soup kitchen that's what they'll be taking photos oh well the welfare line that because that is gonna happen cuz people are using funds as well because they're like finally Instagram came I could take a freakin silhouette even yet picture how do you see a photo I don't care what kind of smartphone it is I want to see a photo of somebody using a smartphone a in a in a food stamp liner yeah like that I purchasing that would be very ironic it's the I oh it's just so disgusting to me I'm disgusted by this let's let's poke some fun at iphone users now we got there let's the door swings both ways you trendy oh yeah go on okay yeah I just center yourself this just tell me about that so iOS users uh thirty-seven percent more likely to have a graduate degree so thoroughly said was smart yeah guess not yeah maybe cuz they all fall in line uh seventeen percent are more likely to be politically liberal versus twenty percent of Android users more likely to be politically conservative yeah so are you Republican no mi are you Republican yes oh you didn't realize a Republican you could I have it here it's fun i had i did my taxes the other I told you yeah and my accountant sort of came out as a very big Republican but like a self-hating Republican my favorite color books and uh you know he was talking to me like I was and I just have a sore like hey man I'm not in your club yeah not your club but I didn't want to like not screws talking about how the country is going down the crapper not ever and I was like hey I'm not in your club yeah sort of like the same Instagram issue I'm my party or your secret Club sir but you had to be kind of nice to me I'll give you guys another thing I was like but at the same time can we screw system over yeah a bigger refund could do that yeah individual mentality versus exactly exactly right hey you know um I like how twenty-two percent of iOS users are more likely to prefer a sleeker device that does less things so they're more concerned with aesthetic but how funny I make these terminations when if you have an iOS device you have one device yes so only how can only have one devices this whole survey can be thrown out the door fifty percent of iOS users are more likely than Android users to have visited more than five countries hmm i don't know i'm starting to get on the stock on the other side of this little iphone that i have in my hand you know join Instagram ah doesn't matter because I won't follow you anyway you poor loser get out of my feet they should have these little badges next to Android users to make them sub citizens you know like I don't bother you don't waste your time yeah I you know have like a poor filter don't get me wrong a poor filter don't get me wrong okay and i want to stress this because people are gonna start calling up and be like all Jeff the calm the truth comes out you hate iphones you know I don't and in terms of Instagram yeah we're dealing with that topic the iphone 4s is the best camera phone ever made right okay so i understand what they're saying that's an empirical argument the vehicle but everyone's making their photos crappier anyway hexagram so thank you better that's my point is that you're all just eliminating pixels and doing things to the color tones and he wants the same when you hold a Phi it except when you're loma by exile crappy exactly at the end of the day everyone's crap smells the same every crappy photos look the same they do uh we're a little hot and heavy right now we'll take a break when we come back more 404 will get off this very upsetting subject Matt didn't think it was gonna duvall VIN to racism didn't think didn't think iphone users had it in them well we're all racist you deal with it same thing it's like Instagram on my phone call of duty modern warfare this is all the people at it would work their faces more 404 right after this stick around this is the 404 effers the show where we all sing songs this is philly from joshing you're listening to the 404 what'd you guys talk about sitting in traffic while you're actually sitting in traffic wait what are we talk about to be talked about sitting in traffic like recently oh we talked about Google driverless cars right there would be lemonade right yes what we did Yeah right Minority Report driverless cars oh yeah that's right they had those pods though those are really cool oh yeah those mag track yeah yeah so cool we didn't get Richard in here he's right now at the new york auto show oh right right yeah um and NBC the cool yeah that's right yeah we gotta we gotta get him in here afterward I want to know what that flying car is all about you think they'll have it there it they are gonna have it there it's not gonna fly though i don't know maybe it'll just be hovering over the news spread my car's wings and fly would ridiculous technology is not going the way that i had expected it to um yeah I'm with you on that you know I mean all right so i think that brings up good topic of conversation when you were young when you were 12 and 13 and you were like all by the time I'm 40 this is gonna be there what what was that what did you because honestly there's no way anyone who grew up in our generation wasn't oh that's my point though is that I always assume that whatever would come out I would never have seen before and that's why I feel like some of the movie adaptations or the real-life adaptations of the movie technology is kind of disappointing like I've already seen that stuff before we've seen the google glasses in the tablet PCs used in movies like back to the future right and uh yeah i don't know like even a space odyssey for example should those tablets decades old yeah and to see things materialize that are directly influence from those products is kind of disappointing i thought it would be mind-blowing stuff that I never would have thought of now I take it take it for what it is okay something like the iPad specifically the latest one with the resolution right you were to go back 40 years yeah show somebody that yeah they would burn you at the stake they think you were like some sorcerer yeah it would have blown mines for sure so don't forget we have rid this sort of been aboard on this train as it goes down the track of technological evolution yeah so we've been sort of uh you know it's like when you know when you see when someone you know loses a lot of weight but you seemed every day you don't notice it okay that sort of thing as opposed to like oh my god haven't seen three years you've lost 70 para make a goodbye I say it's incremental right of course we had to evolve from like a TV set to a smaller TV said to a mobile television set right then you know like someone in the call for 25 years would be quite impressed that's what I want I want to live in suspended animation for a little while I wish I could do that I wish I could just take a nap for oh I don't know 400 years yeah see what's going on in 2500 is are there places are there aspects of our life that need technology put into them like i bide Onix for example yeah I mean there's probably advancements in there I've always thought that the biggest sort of change needs to come with our financial system in terms of like checks and stuff out why am I writing a check yeah why am I ever writing a check or pencils well no that's fine you know all the written word I think will live on forever I really do I really think like when I go to a game demo you know I see some journalists but they're like iPads are trying to type no I'm sorry free hand no taking there's nothing faster than that you're without litter you know enemy without just recording what's going on right arm so i think that is never going away but the whole concept of of like checks and money trent like i write a check i give you a check that's like a six working day process no I'm okay so you're not taking into account things like skin like checks gaming write down your chase account that's putting a bandaid on the bigger problem do you mean we mean like actual money transfers right exactly and I know it's what do you water I just want instant instant I just wanted instant right I want to not even write a check anymore I just wanna like thumb something or I want to be able to transfer money when you ever writing checks I right click there is a mortgage my freakin mortgage company doesn't take anything but checks your wire transfer if that's a pain yes okay you don't mean yeah I guess I call them up I'm like hey can I can I pay you guys online like what's the deal like oh we don't do that yet like what year my calling i don'ti I guess I didn't think about your whole housing situation but i was thinking more along the lines of friends going out to dinner and owing someone money well that thing I don't really handle cash in war because I downloaded this app called venmo right if people sign up for it lets you you know connect to your checking account or whatever and send my like melons name someone's name release but you're paying fees and stuff I don't know what is the green venmo you know yeah you can use that as a verb then I know ven mo yeah like vendor mo its well you could spell venom out of that that's weird um anyway uh so that's what we're talking about what I want to pay uh ask our listeners what they think needs a techno upgrade you know guys like 10 what aspect of your day to day what aspect of your daily life would benefit from an uber tech upgrade right yeah yeah you know like well don't think about your day-to-day you brush your teeth a mic in your case once a month achieve sugar a shower running hey Z stick there's still a few things that are just forever ingrained in the analog rightly right you know I don't think they were gonna prove showering I think all that stuff is limited to the bathroom yeah we need a serious bathroom serious let's get on board with that I don't know that may be eating right like I remember when we were young we all thought that food would come in pills and that hasn't yeah but then we grew up and realized i can afford that filet yeah enjoy and i enjoy eating it right and that lobster tail would go great in scampi sauce what did not I remember riding with a pencil in thinking this is so weird you know like what was the last we've actually written with a lead pencil not a mechanical pencil not quicker clicker an actual good number to Ryan pencil number two I don't know yeah uh I can't remember next time you do it smelly no let me smell the pencil I smell the pencil okay no I love doing that was like the past mmm what does it smell like I was like 1985 I guess so alright that was weird let's get the calls in the public time to show the love eight for scenic calls from the public time sponsored by the number two pencil we've got a call from somebody we talked a lot about kinect kinect Star Wars a terrible creation unfortunately I wanted it to be awesome but it wasn't so this guy says that connect is probably not for us anymore if we're poor guys orlando florida / Medellin just calling a little feedback on jeff's you know hating on the kinect i have a connect and personally i'm not a huge fan of it even though you know play watching a lot but my kids absolutely love them saying they play you know the dance central games and all these other games are they have you no more directed towards kids and they're there on it all the time so I understand where you're coming from but you gotta understand man you're 30 now and you know these things you know they don't make sense to you you're getting older that but it sell it for region cuz I real man using it yeah and you know I'm sure if you were younger you know any other way happy birthday I love it everyone's good did was the man he's fine all in a long ass out well now or an old man yeah I'm dude I'm believe me I still play the mario games I'm young at heart if you have to say that like that like I still play the Mary ok I'm on I'm on the twitters relax I'm not dr. the margarita ah as funny as this point is that's the point I was trying always sort of joke but the thing is that the reality of Connect is that it is most certainly aimed at a younger audience yeah there's no getting around that because old people don't want to get up when they're playing video games yeah don't give me that crap because we have no the crap is this when we came out when the we came out the headlines that were being made was holy crap we put a we in a nursing home yeah right yeah look at these freaking elderly people bowling and stuff like that and they have tournaments and they get it and they yell what to do but i'm not talking about senior citizens i'm talking about you know folks our age side 2 45 I'm sorry 50 you know like no one wants to like get up and do it like a fake will view exceptions and those exceptions be like shake maracas you know if I want to do that I would shake real maracas I understand what you're saying with a few exceptions of the child of Eden of guns ringer of Dance Central and a few limited others connect it's just it's not for everybody yeah it's for kids and it's not it just doesn't work as well as I think people were really hoping for you know if microsoft hasn't figured out how to do you know things like movement technology sensing yeah things like that you think Google would be better at it I mean in terms of I mean that technology is all like out sourced out anyway you know what I mean yeah and you made a good point if Siri can't even do it then I don't know how Google is gonna do voice breaking she's possibly directing yourself yeah uncle glass is already better than Cirie is that weird saying that well in concept yeah it already works better yeah uh if nothing else it'll help me remember people's names wish that's one part of my life I need to I struggle with that so much being put in the face with the name imagine having that in your freaking hood love it I'm so bad at you and mr. Peters on your wife Mindy yeah exactly like I'll just be volunteering too much it happen you went to be you also yeah there's nothing to do with it like referencing twitter updates they made two years ago oh yeah so how's that ski trip you went on the back in 08 said what we all healed up from that would you pull that from that's great it's great um more calls about Game of Thrones were sorry alright we people think we're like butchering the show we were not into it as much as 50 mistakes with a name so George name is Ned deal with it um finally when you're not gonna play the voicemails I had to deal with game of three I just don't want to get more into we only have a few minutes that I wanted you to talk about how you English some of the names that's really funny that's for three shows to I've yes I've if I don't understand your name in the realm I give it an English name rom rom is brian stuff like that call call is Karl the guy married to the police yeah he's Karl it's funny okay I'm Carl like my hair right um finally someone we totally making fun of people who to uh to cheat on games like words with friends right I think people like that should be arrested but um this guy's saying that we're cheaters and his point is terrible but let's play it nonetheless hey it's New York from Albany I just wanted to call and let you guys know that you guys are cheaters my olive cnet is going away you guys remain we both know that you guys cheated death on this one by having president CBS interactive Jim lands owned on your show that's not why and it is whose idea was it to have gym on the show it was Jeff's idea there for Jeff is a cheer tagger hard oak oh toledo he say ten degrees um no that's these lie it's that we didn't cheat that's good get it so somehow having Jim Lyn's well I think he just wanted to find a way to call it label us as cheaters anyway it does lead us into another topic I want to bring up real quick before we gotta go buzz out loud is actually having its last episode today it's very sad they've been around for years and years and years and you really think about it and no BS here without a bol there's no 404 isn't that right Justin yeah for sure yeah for sure because they were the first really big podcast on cnet and they got a lot of people interested in listening to our show Tim don't forget it was spawned right from their show there was a CES I think it was 08 yeah where there's a Randall at the time who was helping us out with show he worked out some deal that we were going to take over their feet yeah even understand what that meant you jack their feet I didn't even understand them and I was like all right whatever is if we gonna get trouble for that what is that that that means that you put the 404 into their RSS is what I learned for years later yes what that meant yeah no but seriously everyone who has ever been a part of that show going on the back to the Veronica jason howell Tom Merritt all those cats and Molly and now Brian everybody you guys have done a great job it's sad to see you go but there's a lot of bright things come sound like the people on vol are going away go first so make sure you check out their last episode which is airing today it'll be live and on-demand later in the day yeah and enjoy that and enjoy the end of an era if you want to talk more about Game of Thrones you could say that we're the bastard child of bol and we are now holding up the wall right where the Nights Watch yeah we are the Nights Watch watch out White Walkers walkers in this analogy the man yeah whoever the man is watch out all these white guys walking if LG was here you would laugh attack you have no friend in that realm nobody that's gonna do it for us guys 866 404 seen it is our telephone number give us a call and leave a message or we can email us the 404 @ cnet.com read our blog every day just does a great job of not crediting images before for Dad cnet.com uh big news to tell everybody looks like we will be having Morgan Spurlock director of the new comic con movie he'll he'll be here a week from Friday mill talk about his other movies in the past supersize me and stuff like that so it'll be a lot of fun make sure you tune in to that will give you more details as they develop until tomorrow I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm Justin you it's the 404 high-tech lowbrow have a great thursday guys and we will see you tomorrow you