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it's monday april 9th 2012 it's the 44 show on Sina TV I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm Justin you and this is the show where we go dumpster diving hell yes uh we'll have a little funny story about that I want to ask Richard cuz he's back in the studio yes yeah welcome back man thank you I know Mark was gone last week so you had to do double duty in the morning I did a lot of that have to do it's tough switching man haven't told you all the appreciative emails we've gotten from listeners that want more of you on the show yeah yeah just what do they say they're like force him to serve more yeah oh yeah I don't talk much I just cuz whenever I start talking I get confused and I pushed her off oh yeah I know that's like it's not easy it's tough pushing all the right buttons f does so we really appreciate that Richard we're talking about we talk about dumpster diving in the in the pre-show and you know that usually has to deal with people like hackers who go dumpster diving like you know corporate garbage disposer raises and find out like password could have been written down where I guess is like the simplest explanation though I was always setting it with like a crust punk thing where they wanted to be like freegans for example no I think it evolved into that too but i think the it's sort of debut what or at least its its popularization was because right you know they would go in and sort of look for information you like it to steal or like Fight Club right go and get that fat exactly good fat the fat of the land so you Richard used to dumpster dive where when I was a teenager I would go dumpster diving at the hostess store so your is in Utah yeah because it because I'd like the day things expire they throw them all away right answer you can go behind the store just over the dumpsters get all this all these donuts and Twinkies and stuff yes and there they expire that same day so not bad yet there in the wrappers and everything would only throw the hostess uh baked goods away together I'd they would put trash in there you would have coffee grinds in the bags yeah it was mostly just the just the baked goods their roster I though this is cool about it did you do this no I did this a lot what did you get berkeley they had the cliff bar factory yeah those are even better because they're all individually wrapped and they were so throw away yeah they would throw away boxes and boxes and cliff bars and those are you know those last forever I'm not sure I can endorse this why I mean if you are if you're really struggling yeah I mean you gotta do what you gotta do here's another pro tip there's a million dunkin donuts in the city oh yeah they always throw the bags you don't even have to dump some guy for that you gotta fight bombs for that if you go to a dunkin donuts and the ones that are not 24 hours you go like maybe 15 20 minutes before closing time right you will never have to pay for donut ever really he's just going you say hey yeah what are you throwing out and they'll be like here you do that we used to do that in college there was a dunkin donuts that was open until four right every night why were they open why were they not just open 24 hours hours yeah they're open 24 and we would have we get there like 3-330 and it was just you know filippo i think his name was and he would just give us that's awesome just ever just everything yeah it's great we would go to 89 munchkins yeah would you do it that's party it would draw my cars except it's great I think all that you want to throw anyone you throw one ain't I've been to bakeries like yeah the really nice like cupcake bakeries yeah go like right before they close they'll give you a whole cake it's amazing okay yeah yeah I got a whole cake one haha Richard takes the cake yeah certainly does they would have there's a north face outlet in Oakland and when those clothing would expire and when the clothing when the gore-tex would go back they would but now they would put a jackets that wouldn't sell in the dumpsters as well huh but they'll be kind of messed up about it they would slash the jackets before I him away why just to be spiteful of the kids that they knew would pick it up it's messed up yeah cut up your you know plastic can what are those things called plastic things that well service a turtle's find themselves locked in oh yeah yeah like a separator cut those up yeah not a jacket jacket uh how was your guys's holiday weekend it's pretty good yeah good had fun didn't do anything didn't do anything that around that's always fun to yeah yeah I guess you guys don't I really have family local know I went to back home to Jersey in my parents place and my moms like you got to clean out your closet you've moved out of here for like six years ready it's ridiculous clean out your closet okay so not only did I find an NES to Dreamcast why we'll have to dream cast for let me remember buying one let alone tune-up a plethora of games more than I needed a Super Nintendo Sega Genesis and an original PlayStation ah so I didn't bring them back as the box that they were in ER is enormous but uh we're gonna do something with all this up it's too good to pass up you can't just let that go by did you find a giant file or you know like CD organizers no games to know the games no they were also in their cases listen to this okay so here's also a weird thing and tell me what you think about this this is I think this is more revealing about me in my possible OCD I had boxes and boxes and boxes I think a total of six or seven filled with empty CD jewel cases huh but they had so so the CD wasn't in there and the booklet wasn't in there was just like the back oh right because you had the organizers that you would write the bullet and the CD right I don't know where those are I think those were maybe under my bed I just didn't look yeah but I found boxes of those with the cases and how crazy is it kept the back part of it what was I thinking what CDs were there dude little 700 CDs that's awesome so many the fact that you actually bought CDs I found like bent the Dookie CD I saw yeah so like early ranted stuff stuff from like 91 92 what's crazy that all seven of those cases is probably worth maybe five or six dollars nothing nothing literally I don't think they're worth anything yeah maybe like the vinyl original vinyl Prince of them right you know and I was just like what was I thinking I had all these empty jewel cases I don't know yeah it's crazy to me so did you keep all the games and stuff yes games are all fine I didn't bring him the old me because they're just the thing was just so massive yeah but I actually found something else pretty cool I used to I used to really be obsessed with drawing and like and specifically the far side remember the far side yeah of course so I found like a whole book of cartoons I got to bring that in but I also was drawing a lot of like comics and like Green Day stuff pull this up this is so here's a photo of you just got this green day kerplunk I'll come again the album before Duque was called kerplunk right and I don't know i was just like into drawing stuff about it and i just drew like they look like this is what i did is the door so what year was that that one yeah kerplunk a mountain like 91 or 92 or something like that all right look at that that's what the cover looked like flower more or less i think it was like a girl wearing a t-shirt of that flattered but pretty much yeah it was called kerplunk pull up the other thing i was obsessed with the max look at that max drawing huh pretty good that's not bad what did you take out so you took a photo of this drawing with yourself on right buddy's Flyers 1995 you took a picture yeah how you got this yeah okay yeah say uh this is funny cuz you signed the name with in cursive yeah Jay bakalar 95 yeah it's awesome it is cool i love this like Max logo is pretty spots not bad at the lining no that's great I'm I'm not gonna lie kind of feeling myself right now yeah you shaded in properly it see when I drew stuff like Ninja Turtles and crap yeah it was always like with really like like the cloud shaped muscles right right birds like em birds right all right there seems to be more detailed definition although his kneecaps are pretty pointy yeah but I think that's what the max is all about he had like weird body features yes but his claws look okay I don't know man I'm kind of psyched on this I was like yo present well you know you it's almost what almost uh man oh man it's like fifth of 17 years yeah what's going on in the background here what did I don't know i don't remember i think that was from like sleepaway camp or something yeah it's adorable wacky stuff in the back there so that's what i unearthed while i was why it's crazy all and i found old tech remember the Sega I r7000 I've no idea what that look that up for me because I found one should have brought that I've never heard of that Sega I r7000 me da yeah it was like a PDA I found my Palm Pilot I found uh here alone pilot did you have like a palm five I think okay the one I guess shaped like a V I found this thing what is this I like it was made by sega yeah as maybe sega uh you could do like a battle mode over infrared hence the ir um and I think you just like I things just like had a calendar and like contacts in there and you like beam it back and forth I forget I wanted one so bad and I just don't remember what I did with it that's really cool it's crazy i found old uh I found a watchman do you know to watch yeah yeah yeah I found that that was crazy it was black and white um I found remember lick lick those cameras uh man you're like testing my google speeds there there were these old cameras he's like single shoulder cameras as opposed to cameras that have multiple ish matter but it was I click yeah lick lick I forget I was Chris old old film cameras okay they were like very 80s so much so that they would look awesome in like Williamsburg man happy I mean yeah yeah autotech crate crazy retro tech found a bunch of Motorola flip phones and or about you have a box full of this out a technology and on the box it said old-school tech oh wow I was like oh what this motorola phone i found was enormous yeah you know what i want us crying again is my old talk boy FX plus never that home alone yeah i had one of those yeah the one with like that cassette tape you would put into yeah you could slow it down yeah it's awesome you know what else I found this thing called the final word you know that is no this little black box not no bigger than like a deck of cards smaller uh with a button on the side you click the button and it says like hey go after yourself welcome like that yeah oh yeah they're like they recorded voice of yeah yeah I had one of their like keychains cursing to like yeah I crap right right I've ever had one of those I had one that you could throw against the wall and when it hit the wall it would say those days like now watch it son of a bitch yes SMR effort right whoa this is what I haven't junghans so cool crazy I want to find my gak again too yeah I Niccolo image a bubble gak yeah I had the bubble yeah you know we're talking gak was like Nicola ladies branded slime remember that God became Iraq I came out around the time of double dare we mark summers in kind of variation on the slime that they poured on people for sure and it was kind of like malleable goo yeah what would you even do with it I don't know I remember ghostbusters uh had it to where you just sort of poured it and you played with it and it wasn't dirty like it didn't stain your clothes it was actually kind of cool it smelled real weird yeah because it was probably nuclear right example out pick pieces often and eat it throughout the day all that you would you yeah that was a bad the bubble gak was the best though and then they have like gak that was multicolored they really went off on a total ran with that I was I don't big rob 29 the chatroom points out that you have obviously make fart noises with oh yeah you could when you were squishing it india right area it would be like there's nice yeah really cool stuff we're not even talking about technology not anymore it's just it so then this whole weekend was just a blast from the past yeah unearthing old childhood secrets I would love to find all my own old palm pilots I think enough time has passed where those things would be kind of I'm kind of an idiot abroad it all back yeah I just didn't have enough because we're bringing so much other stuff I just never room will bring it back next we will next time a lot of old photos too mmm need to digitize that like Polaroids just like go from going to shows in the early night uh yeah I wanna see what a fourteen-year-old Jeff Beck oh it's mom I mean no not in a lot of them get on the chains on no way tree this is pre genco job okay yeah anyway that's what I did this weekend hope you guys had a great holiday weekend let's uh hit up the run down and see what's shakin for this monday april 9th yeah what about this story about ipads in church what is that oh yes this is uh kind of interesting so I know you didn't go to church yesterday no I did not did you even look at a church about church I don't I don't see churches or temple yeah I'm kidding um so there was a new york times article that came out yesterday it's sort of focusing on this church in Illinois uh call the willow creek community church right and uh sort of talking about how using tablets and uh smartphones in church are kinda becoming more acceptable now really obviously the past few years uh you know smartphones getting more popular those oh weird stigma against using them because they kind of are huge distraction but now I feel like churches like you know what anything to get people in exactly so far as to even allow the pastors to use church to use iPads for you know all for their Easter services now if you are now open your Genesis app right to things to a struck me is really interesting one they were talking about how pastors are starting to not have to memorize their sermons right because they can just use their iPads as like you know presentation sure and slides to they're also talking about how you know like churchgoers are using their iPads and it's becoming a huge distraction for pastors that don't like technology in the services because you know it's kind of like that effect in the movie theater where if you look out onto a sea of faces you're only going to look at the one that has a giant you know their faces lit up right by the devices they're using it and so like those dim lights obviously create a problem and a distraction for the pastor as well I am honestly a little surprised that this is okay in some places yeah yeah I am I've seen it a lot in in my church that I go to because people put their like their Bible in their scriptures on the on their iPad so they'll read it right but they're they're not like distracted by angry birds space every now and then like yeah I think so did I yeah right but it's a lot easier than having to flip through every chapter you know when you want a reference it yeah it's like yeah you can just search it or whatever it's Lottie right get this area to get you huh so I could see how that and then also carrying around a heavy Bible would probably be a sure just an iPad gotta you know we gotta keep the everyone's spine in check yeah I think what if one of the guys that uh is pro using iPads compares it to how he's like well you know when the original Gutenberg Bible came out I'm sure that the noises of the pages turning was really annoying for the pastor's as well another thing that they have to get over the grasping at straws yeah kind of a dubious compared for sure haha interesting but I could have bet yeah I'm sure like oh yeah that's yeah you know God can't have any of that they hate it um I want to get into another story this is kind of old but we definitely should bring bring it up number one because it just makes me think of Wilson a little bit uh who yeah and it's a little old like i said but a big story that made headlines late last week and over the weekend and it's so funny how you hear about these stories and so late after they actually break we're talking about the mac flashback virus that has a supposedly hit an estimated 600,000 max which is a lot i think that's a lot right that seems like a ton it seems like a time so basically you know the the the virus came out last week and or I'm not to came out last week but it was just sort of making headlines and it's basically in fact infects your system by creating a fake flash installation interface okay so people like oh I'm just installing flash will know you're installing this this virus but I think the big story is forget the virus viruses on max that's the real thing people was like oh I'm invulnerable you know I'm invulnerable to to viruses because i have a mac and i'm actually surprised it took this long for something this pervasive right you really start to create some waves you feel like people one of the main reasons people think they're bi or one of the reasons they buy a mac is because they think it's impervious through higher that's a huge selling which is simply which has never been the case never been the case there have been mac viruses forever right but they're pervasiveness hasn't reached a tipping point where people are making viruses for that platform so this is more like a Trojan right like right not a virus that I by a conventions of your computer right it's more like a fishing thing to get personal information from these users direct all it i'm just usually it virus to you know it's really it's still an unwanted mail we're sort of infection right right see like when I when I'm thinking about viruses that convince me to buy mac / pc it's the ones that i don't have to worry about you know like my computer slowing down a lot right like the hidden ones that sure in fact pcs a commonly I'm I feel like I'm gonna catch a las like for saying this yeah lately I've not been overly impressed with lion and how it it's the multitasking is in it I just I feel like it struggles I feel like it chugs along a little bit occasionally I don't know I don't get that super quick I mean the machine i have here is is an insanely fast machine i think this one is like 16 gigs are a minute so it's not really gonna stutter are you worried about I just say that flashback might be on you not at all no I just think in general I'm just I don't know there's something going on it just doesn't feel as quick as it used to right and I know it's it's it's it's a totally subjective or anything right it could be and it's subjective to like I just remember the first powerbook I had just I just remember having all these apps opened up and I know absolutely you know uh demand more memory and I know they get more intense and they get more complex but the hardware and and processors are supposed to you know evolved parallel to that them right in power I don't know I just feel like do you also have an updated version of the operating system I do gonna have the latest and greatest yeah I don't know even the imac i have now on my desk if i have like two browsers open and spotify yeah it lags a little i feel like we haven't really crack that egg yet to really figure out why computer slow down over time right they just keep everything I just or to do that's just something we've come to accept but maybe it should be like it's their one sort of human characteristic yeah they get old they get old and they stop they don't work as fit and I don't it shouldn't be like that right yeah I don't know I feel like I feel like I'm gonna we're going to cash now that the story's a little older there's got to be ways that you can sort of detect to see you oh absolutely there's plenty of ways to do it so head over to cnet com we actually have a is like a web utility yeah utility we can point you in the direction of that tells you whether or not you have it and how you can delete it right I checked all my computers all right you know no I wanted it uh this is something that is sort of related uh there's another story in The New York Times today that was kind of cool this is talking about text message spam okay apparently that has doubled in the amount of victims that it's affected lat since last year it's I guess in 2011 there were four point five billion spam texts mmm sent and I don't know I wanted to ask you guys in your experience have you guys been getting these uh like you know text messages offering you discount soon or for signing up for surveys anything that I was unwanted because a member you've been getting a lot of weird spam from I am recently okay I yeah those are all porn I mean um I've been getting all I've got my first official spam text like two months ago yeah was it for do you remember um mine was Porter related as well as like everyone is he dirty girls reply yes yeah yes i did i just replied maybe yeah yeah you know maybe maybe coy with that he will you to know higgs a dependent member it was for definitely pissed me off yeah thought I was clear you know I mean you know when you have that number and you're like no one knows this number who shouldn't write you know odd that so the are setting the articles talking about and says kinda scary a lot of the spammers get their information uh sold to them from i don't i don't know if it's actually the Red Cross but volunteer donation no like that where you text you know yes or a number two you know like three four five nine they're automatically donate a certain amount to agency well if it's for charity they're saying that made they're getting a lot of their information from those firms so that's implying that these charity organizations Ric selling your information and they own their donation but using that money for charity right which is fine I hope you know it's not bad as i find you use in there some sort of privacy policy you you unwillingly signed there's gotta be but they don't really detail that when they just say or things like uh online oh no I'm sorry things like mobile voting or reality show like measure I don't you deserve yeah you gotta assume you yes you should be getting span right because if you're the type of person that votes in American Idol yeah you're probably gonna wanna come on i watch American I don't vote right but i watch million vote if you're one of those people are like voting oh my god oh my god David Cook my son and I got you deserve to get span yeah it's a trade-off it's a dream about you got it except to think about it because you fit in that demographic right exactly if you're entering in your willingly disclosing vital information about your habit right you're like hey I'm one of these people that vote in reality shows don't be surprised when you get a payless coupon key to your text hey sims death yes that's what you're saying some pretty much I beg I don't have enough stuff to buy I need to enlarge things yeah and I need you know I need to be buying stuff um yeah this is funny like I guess it's gotten so bad that they invented a new term for it uh you know how fishing we just talked about is fishing is is get trying to get violation account information right typically through e mail fraud there's a mobile version of that now and it's gotten so bad that they're calling it smishing like SMS Oh fishing yeah ok so don't fill out surveys I guess the two most popular ones are like a need cash now spam right we're like they'll offer you cash for just filling out certain information like providing them you make account sure yeah um so don't do that guys smishing yeah I like that fishing Oh have you been smishing you look terrible yeah that's got a dirty it does sound dirty all right moving right along google maps which has become my saving grace for all things navigation i use google maps on my android phone for navigation purposes it works i'd say ninety percent of the time to my liking but a lot of people are hopping off the google maps bandwagon and a recent patent buyout points the signs that say google maps could be under fire so get this i didn't know this this is crazy you know a lot of other websites they sort of outsourced google maps and they embedded in their site and yeah use that you know foursquare wikipedia both of them officially off the google maps train mmm isn't that crazy so this recent an acquisition by i believe it was microsoft acquired all these patents from AOL right a billion dollars worth could this be that they're sort of uh planning to make a move against Google Maps I don't know it's possible I have started noticing a lot of competing math sites popping up like for example remember last year Facebook got all like being mapped out yeah and so now whenever you want to check into a place you by using places it'll use bing maps right which is kind of weird to me I always thought that Google and Facebook had that relationship it's interesting because Google Maps has always sort of felt like the free open source you know entity right uh because Google doesn't really sell stuff the way Microsoft does yet at least but yeah it's actually they're actually finding their way out of a lot of websites um I don't know there's a there's a openstreetmap initiative have you heard about this yeah and that sort of seems to be taking the place of a lot of spots where Google Maps once were I don't know but I think the exclusive content that Google Maps sort of prided itself on the traffic stuff the places stuff they're not really you know holding all the all the sort of features to themselves these days yeah I mean openstreetmap is cool and it sort of fits with the whole wikipedian model because I guess anybody can contribute changes to roads right you know so if all of a sudden they shut down or like put a wall up somewhere you can submit and then others will vote on that and then it'll go into the map I'm not gonna launch abhi cuz how many times have you looked up directions on google maps and it just led you a number of time yeah um we're and you would think that they are constantly updating their maps right feel like that's a misconception because you find me personally things are not always right even things that have been that way for years right like new construction bridges you know bram stuff like that they're just not where they need to be I'm curious what other people say because I know in our area things are always changing they're always doing construction they're always building I want to know about people in Middle America be where things don't change as much perhaps but yeah that's that's what's going on so the new war on the internet the map war mmm really exciting stuff super excited we're excited I mean there's a big story today that uh I guess a well bought a bunch of uh it did they buy a bunch of patents to microsoft microsoft bought one may well yeah well yeah billion dollars a detail which ones that something i read this morning said we're not exactly explaining those patent acquisitions yet smart businessman smart businessman but the writing on the wall leans towards the idea of what Bing Bing Maps is doing and maybe that sort of competition right our chat room is saying that it's because Google is charging these people to use google maps so they're abandoning right I'll using that service all right well you gotta go where things are free i got the AOL CEO is named tim armstrong that is it really yeah i don't know do you sing in ransom yeah crazy let's take a quick break all right we shall when we come back we've got calls from the public a few emails to share with you guys so stick around there's a lot more for for coming your way keep it here this is the 404 mr f'ers the show where we all sing songs hey different key from what's your Massachusetts and you're listening to us oil for where it's Cooper I'm building lower yes that's right Cooper Cooper is what we're calling group are now especially after that story we have from our new friend Zach yeah who we have gotten nothing but amazing feedback about that was a great little segment there yeah you guys should go back and listen to that what day was that else Friday Friday yeah so make sure you do that and speaking of which we'll talk about that and more in today is called some time to show the love a jig 6404 cnet all right calls from the public let's hit up the Zach one first this is uh this is very nice hey guys this is raleigh from eric uh Keith Zach around he's awesome he brings a lot of life to the show and it just keep him around you know keep him keeping coming back good show guys thanks well I guess we won't kill him like we were planning um I think it's a good idea so he lives well he's our official online dating correspondent right so weird sort of charging him to go on more dates we're giving him that fictional title yeah I want him to compare all of them yeah I wanted to go a little any a fish I wanted to go honey a fellow I didn't know there's one called that is one lady remain endorsed I want him to go on you know like match com right okay Cupid sure Ashley Madison jdate jdate I know he does the Jade a grinder thank you all of them think he does yeah I don't know if he's Jewish that doesn't matter all right calls from the public baseball has started thus the ridiculous sports questions of the turn hey what up Boston from Snipes baseball's opening weekend was this week I was wondering if Justin Kane answer us a question um what is the difference between a 6 4 3 double play and a 463 double play I know alright Tiger even yeah I know what the difference is you know spin 6kg someone here we go can you just repeat the question what's the difference is doing a 6 4 3 double play and a 463 double play notice that the three stays the same so that might give you a little hint I don't know if you'll get there's once it's like just this one thing that's done in baseball scoring I'll give you a hint about so a double play all right don't look too much into that the double plays the same right someone stepping on second yeah someone's done around at first yeah it's the numbers obviously what is that new idea you can't even come up with like a funny response to that nothing gonna sit there and make me I have no idea Richard Richard do you ever know you don't know yeah I know it's absolute like okay like how many runs get no or Nothing do that you don't know no all right well I just I'm gonna just be like the lame ass dude who explains it yes play in baseball scoring every position in the field gets a number so a third baseman is three right I don't know I guess shortstop is six and second basis for what those numbers base so it's saying six meaning let's just say six is the shortstop six gets the ball so he makes the play 006 throws at the four it was a double the second baseman then throws at the three gotta jet the first base yes suppose a second as opposed to a 463 means the second baseman get the ball through to the short cybersex who take on second and then throw to first god that's a 64 350 that makes perfect sense yeah okay that's no idea that the nut there weren't even numbers of Susan yeah that's how scoring works in baseball like you've ever been a baseball game you see some dude who's like writing down the whole what's right right he's writing down numbers and stuff and that tells him all fly ball to right everyone all nine people on the field have a number so here we go yes sir the chat rooms clarifying a little bit so shortstop is six there you go for is second base and three is first right there it is hey hey now learn a little bit more every day you know these are little fun facts I would real I'm I would be curious to find out how much a percentage of our listenership knew that yeah that was kind of a tunnel i think it's lower than we might a lot lower yeah because in here was only thirty three percent yeah so Z of that never translates or actual listening audience um let's see what the Oh in the vein of talking about spamming and text messaging and whatnot here's this hey Jeff in tuscaloosa Chicago from Eric a little glowing cash and texting my friend about alone about 20 minutes later I get a random spam text for a cash advance loans no there's a coincidence or one out there they're trying to take on it and Jeff are you but what the hell is up with your new phrase uh know what I mean driving crazy with a key Kaminski in there man he's great do I say that a lot no to me I've never knew my earnest you know what I'm a treaty world do i say i guess i've noticed good I don't know you know what I mean ya know I don't know what I'm asking me that I like how he did bring up the spam thing that went really well with what we just talked to for sure so he's implying that his texts were filtered and and monitored for keywords and then he got a sort of relevance missing schmick shin she mentioned smishing mission oh that flows right off the tongue someone's sniffing his text messages I guess so like that is scary yeah we should just write back and forth each other one theme over and over like pizza made you pick up pizza hey I'll get that got bonita yeah did you get that coupon I really love saving money on pizza don't you just yes she's just talking about cash advances a lot i well you said he said yes this buddy about alone yeah yeah that's be easy isn't that crazy what would you get text message spam about then just sail on hockey say she's gonna sell this week she's gonna see better hard drugs yeah yeah black tar heroin as weekend yes I don't know I would die done there's no all my texts are just important sort of bits of information that i pick you up in 10 you know nothing vital like that um yeah so there's that last week i got a little mad when it came to talking about Instagram android on the iphone and how some iphone users were upset yeah that people got Angela you is to grant we went from a gated community to section 8 housing and it right yeah well that guy got his ass kicked this weekend let's listen to someone else who who seems equally upset birmingham you're talking about Instagram be on android and iphone users think android users don't have the money to create better photos hmm the iphone 3gs is more inexpensive and those androids so he was seeing the point that I was trying to bring up with you you sort of made me think otherwise you paid how much for your iphone i paid 299 for mine you paid 300 bucks for your I don't think I think you got taken waiters are only supposed to pay 200 for your iphone you talking about right how much I have 2 32gb pins on how many gig how much you pay i think i paid 199 for 60 16 so that's what it is but he's talking about if you were to buy a 3gs you would only pay 99 for sure there's a lot of android phones that are expensive and more more expensive yeah so what the hell are we talking about it's all fine just take as many crappy photos 01 I never look crappier and then put them on Instagram what's funny is that i truly hate Instagram regardless of the plat I'm universal hey I was just mad at the iphone a UH Instagram snob joking on Instagram what's the problem here why it's because I don't know what it is ya know I know you know what it's sort of its cool yeah not is it I guess if you there's no reason you should be on Twitter and not beyond its but because pictures everyone will agree is better than reading but then for sick and i don't know it instagram it i'ma show you what instagram is after this no I'm gonna be hooked I know I know it is and I know it has addictive traits ya to it but still you're not going to get me to sign up for that camera my nexus isn't that great anyway next go pay 40 for this is andrew from South Florida regarding what you guys are talking about how people talk real loud no cell phones right the reason that is is because you can't cure your voice in the speaker of the phone much like older phones that you would used to have your house I'm about 31 I guess Jeff you're probably 30 so well part of that generation but i'm i'm thinking that um it's going to be a generational thing no one got kids growing up with cell phones of never heard their own voice okay i'm gonna take a step back yeah i don't know if that's true that's not true universal he's saying that wired of phones back in the day you could hear your own boyhood you could it was like a like a monitor you could you could we talk about two phones that have separate receivers no uchi is the really old yes the ones from the ones from boardwalk empire no no there you'd have to hold one up and then like put the a.m be like I'm dialing hello sick yeah yeah no not like that you big idiot you talking about like these ones yes talk about those or exactly I love you have a property like this I don't know that is kind of perfect but yes he's talking about those phones yes when you used to use e a rotary one or a pulse one that had a feedback you could hear yourself in the ear piece of tourists even like the phones we have here at our office desk so exactly they just r out a little bit by it's just the way it's always been right cell phone some of them do have that some of the older ones do but i think i'm pretty did that but that was the last phone that did that right i know for a fact my palm pre most certainly definitely did that but everything else my evo and now the nexus do not yeah there you go let us know what you think internet 866 four for Cena is number to call or we can reach us via email at the 404 @ sina com did anyone email us about technology they'd like to see implemented in their everyday life because i thought of one that was good oh no about a few emails but not about that well what did I'm really frustrated with cutting nails nail cutter yeah what are you looking it's just very specific need a technology yes I hate having to do that it's like this huge process and you have to file your nails on afterwards they don't get stuck on the clothes yeah I just really long just want you to do every single week every two weeks you just wanna stick in like the equivalent of like a pencil sharpener yeah exactly i want one that I'd see my whole hand in it because it's on my neck dude everyone's pencil is the same not everyone's fingers the same yeah I'm just saying it feels like archaic technology every time you have to bust out well I guess I do agree i hate cutting nails the worst anyway that's gross let us know what you think I we want to keep that conversation going yeah and the nail cutting yeah sure no yeah better technology in your daily life uh this week Wednesday Jill Schlesinger Friday Morgan Spurlock yes we'll be back tomorrow have a great monday we'll see you soon i'm jeff bakalar and i'm justin you it's the 404 high-tech lowbrow thanks again to Richard for being here you're welcome all right we'll see you guys tomorrow