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The 404 Ep. 1031: Where it's cheaper if you get our e-book

2012-04-12
it is Thursday April twelfth 2012 you've tuned into the 44 show on Sina TV I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm Justin you and this is the show where it's cheaper if you get our ebook it is cheaper we'll talk all about that in a little bit but first allow us to introduce our guest in the studio today mr. Scott Steiner just scored touchdowns and referred like expression how are you man I'm great it's been a really really long time since you've been on I yeah it's been like least six months I yeah but welcome back we're going to have you here what's going on in your life how's how's it going here at seen it oh good well we say goodbye to labs cast so I'm like a unless your podcast is this type of guy all right well hopefully we can help you fill the void here today yeah so Scott's gonna be on we got a lot to talk about there's a lot going on that we can discuss that Scott has written about recently things he could lend his a fine expert opinion on which is why we bring him on the show cuz he's such an expert you are no oh no gonna it all fall apart is all special now um so yeah the show title sort of leads into what we want to get going on today this is a big news making headlines Apple got sued by the who they got sued by I think five yes of the major publishers so this is a big deal because everyone's up in arms saying hey you know why are you price gouging on ebooks and I've heard a lot of people sort of giving mixed messages some people say hey ebook should be a you know a fraction of the price right because they cost nothing to manufacture right but I feel like people don't realize and our buddy Nathan on cnet wrote this up yesterday right if you don't realize like the main cost of a book is not printing on paper right there's a lot of other production costs and time and effort that goes into the process aside from making and manufacturing a book right absolutely so ya going no sigh I mean I've never published a book although right and to at some point of course we all do Richard's looks coming on next week got that working on so when switch cameras by Richard Peterson pitch for unpublished book go place a pre-order for it now right on even though there isn't one the other thing is that i think the real trade-off comes from yeah everybody's getting kind including Apple and Amazon breaking cuts that hadn't been taken before right so people have to adjust for that but I think I keep thinking about one of our colleagues here at seen it david carr knowing i'll speak on his behalf but i know he was experimenting with witty publishing and stuff like that and i think it's like apps i mean at some point where do you price that book or that app that if you can sell it for maybe a couple of bucks right that you could sell so many more copies and you're making more money in the long run sure then if you were selling and turning people off and being able to climb the charts and get sort of noticed i think that's uh that's the key because then you then it's not about how much money costs about how much money you can pull in right cuz i just things like ten dollars plus just turns everyone off i think there is a sweet spot for for e-books i think what a lot of people are confused / upset about is the fact that some kindle books cost more than the actual softcover the paperback yes which is ridiculous and that to me should just not be the case because of the reasons we just explained how it does now there are production costs and and obviously printing on paper isn't the main crux of the actual production of a book right but at the same time it's like okay but when it comes to comparing both at you know products don't tell me that the digital version is pricier than the thing I'm actually holding in my hands that just doesn't make sense now it's and it always has to adjust for that they should always shows be at least at least a dollar cheaper yeah make it a dollar cheaper it's just it seems crazy and there should be some discount me for a lot of lot of the hottest books now it seems like there's practically no discount right yeah especially if you're buying any place that's offering you some sort of hardcover discount when you buy it for sure at that store for sure it's good it's ridiculous you should check out the link in our show notes today is a really interesting read about this i was watching CNN this morning and there's this guy who was just like giving misinformation he was literally just like I forget what his name was but it was pissing me off he was saying like he's like it's crazy d book should be 99 cents all of them and the woman interviewing him was not taking into consideration like up yeah I think it's still a big you know cost in making a book think about they gotta pay the author they gotta pay editors I got there's a whole office of Africa office building a people working on a book and this guy's like it should be free I'm an idiot if you like thanks for setting the record straight they moved on there's the truth yeah what about things like uh what was that I author uh I bought it it was iBooks Author talking about yep earlier this year what about that though I mean those authors should be able to charge whatever they want through you can if you do if you publish your own break in Smash words yeah you could take a you know and then up and then Apple or Amazon just takes a cut but they're talking about big-name publisher like if you self-publish and you self-edit you do all the work yourself you can make it ten cents it's fine right you know anyway uh it's what possibly Tosh for books then I don't know man or an e-book is you you know like a 99-cent model person is the itunes but i notice people are willing to pay i think with the amazon with the kindle first introduced ten bucks for a new book i think that's fair because um first of all if it's a really popular book everyone's going to want to get on board i think if you go into specialty books that's where i think you almost could earn the right to charge more yeah like what what you mean a big psychology research like a text books or anything yeah or like a whole book full of like case studies and some sort of a you know thing almost feels academic and you can charge maybe 18 bucks because how many people are going to buy that but right but i think like anything that's a that's a main release fiction like the sort of thing you want to put on a front shelf and get attention should be 10 bucks and then back catalog stuff has to be less yeah yeah it just has to be you have to drop the price at some point as you go in other printings yeah the version of what we other printing of course that's the gravy and it's like why would you keep charging um like this weird back catalogue book would be there or sometimes twelve or fourteen dollars yeah I don't get it I don't get it either um so basically uh so what do we know what happened with the lawsuit is there any sort of like resolution with this whole thing I thought they said that it wasn't going to proceed any further that that was the last thing I read amazon promise that they're going to drop prices on their books yes what there was a story this morning right I don't let's let them fight at it you know I mean let them start trying to compete with each other well as prices go down yes Amazon wants to undercut maybe that's how they got to the ten dollar price in the beginning was right where I'm they were subsidizing part of the price to be lost leader uh-huh and and then I think there was this whole um you know there a lot of publishing backlash because they said no the price all has to be right as you know we want consistency on the product I think Amazon's gonna go back to you know gang prices down to that ten dollar which havior kennel owner that's great awesome I don't know i mean if amazon is is paying that the rest of that that I don't see how that hurts if they want to be a lost everyone take the loss themselves for sure I don't know but it will create a sense of perception that you'd say I'm okay with that where's my ten dollar notebook where's my ten dollar minus book my nut book alright my I books we're gonna move along um I want to play this video that leads into a story have you heard about this guy Kane and his cardboard arcade where is key this is a big deal yes made me cry cry yes here's those very hard where I know dating I I did weep all right let's uh I believe her name is Hannah let's listen to her video voice mijnheer high 40 for this is england from hannah and and you guys were asking on a previous show for more videos so I thought I'd oblige yeah I wanted to talk about a viral internet video something called and Caine's Arcade I don't know whether you've talked about it yet or not I'm a few episodes behind and it was just really awesome and it kind of linked in with Jeff and you went to the arcade thing and I thought this was really cool and the little boy in it came he's I cannot say enough about how creative and inventive he is my wish I had this sort of like little kids ability to problem solve it's amazing um anyway yeah love the show I so thanks for the video voicemail Hannah like we said ninety-five percent success rate hey keep sending them in so this is a really heart-warming touching story where this guy came monroy he's a 9 year old who is obsessed with the whole like carnevale arcade sort of uh scene that sort of atmosphere and he took it upon himself to basically turn his dad's is like a repair shop they used auto part yeah east LA and easily him converted a section of it if not the whole freaking thing yeah into his own cardboard arcade really cool it is really cool and it's very cute um is he being exploited by the internet a little bit not be there just look it's great it's it's a bringing attention to and I appreciate that and I am so so the story is that you know this kid pretty much built an entire arcade with all kinds of like chucky cheese style carnival games right he had like a crane game you had like bowling bowling yet he had a version of skee-ball and like prizes that you could can that you can cash in your yet tokens for your he goes underneath and feeds the tickets through the slide yes I said he goes into the box he crawls internet and their calculators taped on regulate like they would sell I think they say who's clever they so like this was like a dollar per play yeah yeah my past but that's where my dollars yes like I'm you paid one dollar yeah you can get two plays out of any arcade machine but if you pay two dollars you get a fun pass which equals 5 500 deal in a sense is this not just like a Wes Anderson movie personified as little joy like you was like did was entering have a dream and you were created you know in your bed you're totally right it's so true it's a DIY you know very uh oh great you know elaborate details of their proneural care for sure yeah so they organized a flash mob for this kid on back in LA reddit and Facebook right because a lot of people were passing by his dead shop ready to be in East LA not a lot of foot traffic there yeah so they organized like it looked like maybe a hundred fifty two hundred and around the block is kind of crazy so so is there video that there's a video so what's on Cena he was probably really excited right I wasn't it awesome for him his dad took him out you know with the idea that when he came back he knew that they were organizes flash my surprise right and we comes around the corner he almost seems kind of like all right this is what I intended or he was like oh it's gonna be a busy one today you know he quietly smiling and everyone's got signs and they're high-fiving him I thought almost went a little too far kind of felt like I wanted the in-between yeah just like 20 interested people this becomes like you know all the hipster party where everybody like and that's what I mean when I say he got a little excited cuz a little bit you know the hipster scene was like oh what a great way to show off my cinematography I want to see the seat orly everybody smells be part of this exam on experience yeah but I do want to go I hope it gets put on the map of all the weird la things ya better worth looking at like weird la the museum of jurassic technology like now you love that stuff i love it for sure no watching video of him right now he's insanely cute and he so what I admire about him is that he's so dedicated to the cause and he so he takes it so seriously and it's just like of course this is what I'm doing I'm making my own cardboard arcade what are you doing you know I have I'm nine and I have a full working arcade what are you doing and it's just really cute i love it it's great story what's gonna happen tomorrow though when no one shows up to his arcade I don't know it's gonna be the one to say it right like you're right there should be another more depressing movie about him it's not depressing about the press well like that's the problem flash mobs and things like that is they just like run the gamut the secondary rough it's gonna be a good it's gonna be a good business yes I give up girl so it's cruel but funny yes I think that there with all this coverage that's that's happening now the third the second wave i think that people but it could be like one person one day to write people think belgium it doesn't it will have some sort of touristy feel and who knows if that'll plateau or trail off or whatever it is but the kid got is 15 minutes and that's all a nine-year-old can ask for right this is already more than I would have ever hoped for he's got his own shirt you know who get sponsored by some elected quite a lot this race talking about the prizes he gives out yeah all the gamers and he doesn't he afford real prizes so he gives away his old toys right as prizes yeah I mean maybe though you know what the best thing to come out of this yeah uh Hollywood will like buy his story was Anderson you know was and westerns it'll direct and somehow he'll save the town right you know it's got like that be kind rewind sort of thing going on with it lute Olson can play his father yeah yeah that's what will happen and Alec Baldwin will narrate and you guys have any kind of entrepreneurial companies when you were little did you guys sell things like a lemonade stand on so cliche yeah anything like that um no not really I don't that's a good question I unfortunately know about you Skye you uh down like you you had some sort of repair shop I did it really was interesting the idea of like carnival and mechanical stuff but I did try to build a time machine uh you know with a friend right I remember reading Omni ok ya zina we were convinced this would work but it was like everything is cardboard about it started with a cardboard box yeah and tin cans yeah the amazing thing is that at the age of six um I really believe this is gonna work yeah and that's it no I'm kid I said we SAT for a little bit yeah and you're like we're not going anywhere yeah and then we just kind of like so wasn't rayon tripping or in charge it's a cute story for sure we bad if I did it now when I know yes then people be looking at you it's it reminds me of that scene in Napoleon Dynamite music have you ever thought about time drivers like yes only every day of my life you know did not get you some well it just buys one on the freaking internet it's so funny let's take a break when we come back more 404 with Scott Stein and we're going to talk about Hollywood speaking of them running out of ideas has Hollywood lost its way I think we have a bunch of people in here who would love to speak on that topic so stick around there's a lot more for for coming your way right after this we'll see you after the break this is the 404 effers the show where we all sing songs Hey look at the 44 sorry that video was so jump that's fine so tell us tell us more about this video so this is a watch called pebble yeah Scott I put this in the right now because I know that you're big fan of watches you think you're big watch key to our in the Nano yes sir you where the Nano I don't use it for music I'm embarrassed to say that on camera um this is an ipod nano using a hex vision watch band and I i like it because i think it's a really cool-looking digital watch and you know you can press the that's cool it's like an e-ink style looking display i really like that yeah and it was like 18 different watch faces that are built in eighteen yeah that's pretty cool wish they would sell others but I like it for that and the fact that the watch band actually looks nice and it looks like a real watch it doesn't look like you're wearing an Anna right which is I hated those big lego-style yeah bands and you don't use it for music no although I should but doesn't make any sense but uh no I just I like cool digital watches and it's the it's a cooler one than ones I've seen I don't run I've even looked on on watch these mode stuff and I don't know I the Tokyo flash stuff to me too complicated too over the top right it's like oh cool there's a literally an hour glass on my watch yeah I want something cool and like diesel does up and then there are too many dials and like steampunk leather things they stick on area so I just like the minimalism but I do wish that it were what water resistant and didn't have the 30 pin so i like the idea of these other watch accessories I'm keeping an eye on them I'm curious to see what emerges it seems like there are a lot of them lately yeah this this pebble um you know they're on Kickstarter now they've raised almost a million bucks crazy they were they met their goal of a hundred thousand dollars in two hours which is crazy i started the kickstarter yeah they had a good idea you're gonna get money yeah you know isn't i think it well who's gonna be the first person to just gain kickstarter and just have like a great fake video and like look what we're able to do in a lab and they'll just have like a hoverboard right I'm machine and we just need fifty thousand dollars and they raised it and then it says here take the money and run yeah I will tell you I'm gonna rob Kickstarter blind that's what you're gonna do do that how to do it oh man we shouldn't talk about this um so but it seems really cool it seems like there's really like a lot of potential for people just to completely customize their own watch yeah and that to me is something that I've thought about for a while having the ability to make my watch look exactly the way I want to yeah this is cool because I feel like most watches really try hard to have you don't have like a high res display this is a really simple idea on a SmartWatch yeah it connects to your Android or iPhone you only see a lot of watches i connect your iPhone raise that is ok but this is Bluetooth and you can do all the stuff that you know that you just mentioned on your nano pretty awesome play your music check your email whatever and it's email ok so you can see it on you know pretty much any surface and sunlight whatever man they've had 24 people give a thousand bucks they've had four people give 12 Wow no one's pretty cool too i would wear this why would not about my specialist now it looks like it'll have internet connectivity yeah well it connects through bluetooth so it can read anything on your phone like that weather thing that seems really cool the way I mean yeah that's what I wish the Nano had right now the ability to basically connect with your iphone and i can write so I just got the music but I can't you check whether we're basic messages it's pretty cool we'll link to it in the show notes today I want to talk about this article i read this is going back a couple months from short of the week have you ever been to that site it's a really cool site no school um it's titled has Hollywood lost its way yes and a big I guess reason that this was written was because when the when the author of the article looked back at the top 10 grossing films of 2011 it found out that believe it or not eight of the ten or sequels okay and the other two were adaptations there hasn't been more than half original films in the top 10 grossing in the US since 1981 when out of the 10 top grossing films they are seven of them were original it's what's funny too is out of those eight original films that in 1981 several of them have their own sequels that exist today right Arthur was recreated exactly there's another Superman there's been three other Superman's I didn't realize Time Bandits was in the top 10 grossing films of 19 isn't that awesome amazing awesome too so it's basically every 10 years from 1980 12 2011 yeah in 1991 there was only one so in just ten years it went from seven to one back up to two in 2001 but I'm sorry pearl harbor is not original even you know what I mean yeah like get out of here right ah and monsters inc fine 2011 not one original title broke through the top ten and now the two adaptations were Thor and Captain America which are you know connected to the to the Marvel canon exactly like sequels in some weird way even more shocking the only original story in the top 15 films of 2011 clocked in at number 14 that's bridesmaids yeah and that was the only original one to break the top 15 Wow franchises from 2001 that were still being supported 10 years later last year in 2011 right Harry Potter one right in 2001 to harry potter eight and twenty eleven number ten and two thousand one was Planet of the Apes number nine and twenty eleven Rise of the Planet of the Apes number 14 in 2001 the best and the furious and number six and twenty eleven yeah best 5c I don't know what we were arguing earlier that it's an issue of waning creativity that it is what short of the week is I think it might actually have something to do with lowered box office numbers right maybe it's it I'm not gonna buy this Hollywood not want to take a gamble I understand and they and every day they are direct n is gonna sell really well shrek 10 is gonna do gangbusters yeah i think it's that I think it's multiplexes to in terms of where you get to see these movies you have 10 screens and then five get taken over for a weekend right to show the hottest movie because again they want the biggest return for sure and and so yeah you end up with movies getting flash mobbing themselves into screens and then disappearing in two weeks and then you know like I tried to look around New York City New york city and i have a week where my family's away and i have money to burn i wanna go see a movie I've passed as but I passed on seeing a movie because nothing is nothing i mean i think me an old man there's nothing it's a terrible selection movies yeah if you like a total failure in that sense of Hollywood right now how how did they not succeed in getting me to go to a movie other than hunger games but the thing is is that there are original ideas out there it does it does seem that the current trend is obviously adapting a book or adapting a comic and that but they've been adapting book since the dawn of cinema okay so that's nothing new and I'm okay with them doing that Hunger Games is an example that's fine but I just AM worried about where the focus is shifting and it seemed that I don't know when you had your little miss sunshine's and you're Napoleon Dynamite's and that sort of thing it did seem like that indie scene even though the latter the former little miss sunshine was not an independent film I mean it just wasn't right um it was treated like that and there were sort of this like branding that they were able to do to some films that would give it that indie feel like we're not gonna release this in thirty five hundred theaters just 2,500 you know and you gonna have to drive an extra mile to see this one yeah but did feel like original films work on the rise and they were gonna get their time and I don't know it just stopped it comes and goes I mean maybe to an 2011 is also a bit of an off year to compare because you have like inception before that okay so you should have in it you know he's been making pretty independent films although they're big budget films what a loopers coming out which is that directory and John send it to brick okay um and then I think of duncan jones who did he did uh moon and he also did one was awesome juicy moon gem is great and then there the jake gyllenhaal movie which was about where we kept going into the same period of time was a bit like other movies cheering crash i forget the name source code source code yeah i was a little let down that but i thought again a little bit of its out there um I gotta be honest with you guys when you talk about how much Hollywood has sucked lately and how there are no movies out I disagree with you well you also have a really bad taste no I've seen a lot of awesome movie 90 drive for example okay that's an original story they're yellin kaalia the Lars von Trier movie i watch that only it was amazed amazed great really really what is a call i write exam in first class that might be a sequel that doesn't really really good sure i don't know i mean if you look at you know it's easy to pick out hunger games would be like that movie sucked no I didn't see homie no I heard it I heard it was good I didn't like it yeah but it's a timing availability and distribution too i think it was back to that it again in the city here um you know where were these us be your fingertips i'd say an amazing number of these movies get put into the indian movie houses for everyone's you don't think like david cronenberg's uh movie dangerous method then I last church I liked a lot through David Cronenberg is pretty well known quantity for sure he pretty much got marginalized for a lot of it we didn't blow anything up in it right yeah he's a blow-up Freud next day but that's the thing in that's that's what I'm more worried about cuz like I said there are great ideas out there there have to be you know there are still smart people around is there more that you want to see that hasn't been made yet it no I don't know I just like seeing something original okay you know I like seeing something that oh I never thought of that cool let's go see that now let's go check that out you want it you want your mind blown I do I want my mama flo's on the reg however that for sure when the matrix first came out right away my mind I want that feeling and I just haven't been able to get that feeling I thought inception was gonna do that for me and it didn't yet it get halfway it gave it left me hangin it gave me I was blue balled from inception okay that's that's the analogy i'm gonna use cuz that's really how I felt um but yeah I just and I don't like I said the originality is there it's just the studio's decision to deliberately you know thwart that which I'm a little I guess bitter over I feel the same way with Hollywood to some degree about video games was funny like last night but going over to like see stuff it with sony and like not to me anything particular but like Santa Monica Studios which is their independent game group they are the ones who made journey and it was made all those other like games i know that game company did journey I mean sorry I didn't make journey but I mean they are but said Monica Studios is the organization that has curated sure that game company curated pixel drunk and a lot of these things that you think of as the cool indie stuff that sometimes has been discouraged right question at Sony right on the PlayStation group and I think I think thank goodness there they exist thank God they exist but I worry about that in games about the fugly the courage to go forward oh yeah it's a problem in every media it's it you say like it's over music apologies it's everywhere everywhere yeah is absolutely everywhere and luckily we have Justin to fix the problem I'll watch all the crappy movies you will single-handedly you you will raise the box office thank you my god my guess is finally that I think that a lot of that any stuff is being not marginalized but it's being shunted off like in games it's an ipad apps there's some interesting things going on not all of it but people can find other like flash games ways that they can do stuff cheaply and so I don't they skip the circuit books they might say welcome to self-publish if I want to be really independent movies they might go to youtube or vimeo or they might make their own projects that they put online yeah if they really care about it and say you know what so that might be part of it that it's almost providing this outlet for the for the truly independent yeah that it's no longer going up the chain i don't know i think what it boils down to you know I complain a lot about popular music I think it's crap but at the end of the day there still is really good music out there yeah and to say that like oh this generation just sucks it's kind of cheap to just say that you're just getting older and that's that's how we look at it because you were only exposed to the real big blockbuster sort of stuff what that feeling that you had when you were 16 17 you felt passion like when you saw the matrix and something even though measures more blockbuster maybe the blockbuster stuff is not as good as the blockbuster stuff 20 years ago I think that's true but there is still quality stuff out there and you have to do your due diligence like you did when you were younger and get in touch with that sort of subculture it's still out there there's still good art there's still good music there's still good books there's still good comics they're still good movie you just gotta search well that's not as easy it's not just one place where you're finding music raise any more right so many different locations online and just like dig your right and just like 15 years ago the majority that's the thing that is popular with everybody is probably not good right right when it comes down to it and you have better taste in that and you gotta do your due diligence and find it yourself yeah even with the AU you know when the internet was starting to really become a means of distribution for music stuff like that it was easier to find I think better music was it not well there's so much more music now do the thing because independent people are publishing so now that the internet has sort of had its fair share of of you know underground sort of stuff now you gotta do it again with the inner you gotta find it on the underground circuit on the internet just like you did in real life 20 years ago yeah there it is you gotta call of the storage to get to the goal you gotta do that you gotta do that mention I was a good year though we also fight club we did at Fight Club and I would not as big as a box office success as you would imagine nope which is unfortunate chatroom saying you guys really need a way to have live Collins will guess what one day that will happen but it's not today not today we announced believe it or not during our team today we're going to and you know what look I'm all kidding aside we could do that we could do it we just don't trust you guys right i just want to give up his phone number you know we could do we could maybe ask people to give us their number and then we'll call them back blocking our number I don't know she like a pre-call work we try out the call first like a test skinny right and we'll see how it works and then moving on from there well that's why we have calls from the public you know we need to be able to screen you people we can't trust you because of all the crappy votes could we get a lot of really bad voicemails I feel like we did well we you know we get alone listening to them we did all of them are playable on the air we did why we're a little nervous about speaking what you want to do that now okay you're okay all right too much of Justin chagrin will still do calls in the public time to show the love Oh for scenic a lot of people calling in about the best buy conversation was the last time you were the best by Scott I was it against your will it's a really you want the really depressing answer I had a family death recently and my mom and I decided to go there because she wanted to buy the muppets for my like a depressing story she wanted by the Muppets for like my my younger niece and nephew yeah so we went in there and it was a sad experience we bought it and it all felt like Best Buy wasn't there for us and it felt kind of like sterile and then we just came up all right well that's super depressing thank you wait did I you know the issue that you couldn't find any of the blue shirts to tell you where you find the movie I didn't want to even engage them yeah I just felt like I didn't wanna boxes I didn't want to begin that process it didn't seem friendly it's almost like I wanted to be a ghost I just wanted to go into press Maya that's the thing is I find when I walk in there I almost don't want to begin the exchange oh it's the war anyone yeah and the best is how blatantly obvious now look and we had some calls from people who are reporting in from around the country saying it's not all bad Manhattan does not have the best sort of employees no you know I mean they're living in Manhattan they're working at a Best Buy how can that be number one and it's not it's not fair as they're not getting paid enough I don't think it's fair for you to say that people just doing what working at the size of Manhattan sketchily one actually I'm happy I've met a lot of them they are a lot of diplomatic okay that's not a gross right there is one great Best Buy story I've one very quick before we memorable experience of the holidays I was trying to buy Joanna wanted this Christmas movie I don't member what it was it was like the classic old black my christening I went to bestbuy I you know I thought was me a horrible exchange at the with the employee there he said oh I don't know where it is not in the section I looked all over the place I was lost he walked away I said well he's given up on me I was I was like kind of depressing this stupid he came back about five minutes later had gone through every single stacks and found the one remaining copy that's really nice there we go that was a great one I almost tipped the guy that was at Columbus Circle yeah I was like I was like you know what you're pretty amazing yes where's your manager let me talk to him because you deserve something yeah and angina was really happy to get it real want to see that's really a story like that that is a great as a heartwarming it's helping very rare though in this in this world it's just true even when I go back home to Jersey to where my parents are at NAT best buy the difference between that Best Buy and the one here yeah it's it's it's night and day only going to best buy's when needed find a public restroom right like when I'm really desperate for a public respects what styles for starbucks or best buds would ya best buy bathroom yeah and I know where they are yeah where would you even go what do you mean the bottom of the let's get to the voicemails about best buy hey guys welcome chef call it about your that's my question I actually will never step foot inside of the best buy in the stores are terrible employees are rude and obnoxious the thing that got me to this point over Christmas five I made an order I received an email I pick up in source saying that my order was there was all paid for ready to go I got there to find out that they sold my order to somebody else part of it and then when I asked for a refund because I thought I just ordered online I was told no I couldn't have a refund because i purchased it online that I had it all online customer service yeah there's just way too much of a disconnect between the online and offline experience what I think is a big problem with that store and by the way will be sponsored by them next week yes um but I thinks a big problem with that with that experience is just everyone is dodging you there's no one its it appears is the ones that I've been to recently and I've been to a best buy a couple times in last two months they it's like they're of deliberately avoiding even making eye contact with you they don't even want to then you to know that they work here that seems to happen a lot in your life no it's best buy employees that I've dealt with this is worried about multiple retailers maybe they're afraid of you I don't know way forget that's why knows who I am nobody knows who I am yeah buddy okay you don't agree got it it's maybe I look angry maybe it's the red beard I don't know but they jelly and everybody maybe it's the lasers coming out of my pupils I have no idea could be I'm just sorry it's just it's just like that like let's listen to a best buy employee for this is danny from Des Moines Iowa and I were just calling to voice my opinion about the whole dust by thing I personally will work at Best Buy and I'm not trying to defend my job at all well I do know how they're quite a few problems that best buy the first thing is there's what kind of a lack of incentives for employees like when I first started I had a lot of encouragement for my managers to sell all these services and all the like extra accessories and the like hot spots and stuff like that and like now after I've worked there for six months it's like there's no motivation so is that what it is like these guys they start working it's like hey do you know like I always wonder where are the man and where is the manager of this place and it is he content with what's happening on the floor the misinformation that's being spewed out and the lack of customer service and all that stuff and he's just like okay team good job we suck yeah I don't get it really demotivating its but I mean I don't know what it is maybe it's the fact that they're closing stores left and right I need to have a best buy Hunger Games the way that each district sends one employee yeah their best buy to fight everyone else yeah we bigger this is the answer this is the answer we also had someone call up from Southern California said that his best buy experience is fantastic so your mileage may vary is the moral of this story will get off the best buy rant now and we'll hop into something we're talking about yesterday he heard about the story about Twitter freaked out when they found out that the Titanic disaster actually happened you hear about this you know about this people the people on Twitter went nuts when they found out that Titanic actually was a real thing so this guy has a comment on that hey for for this is tim for video store clerk I would call him real quick to say a couple things first up Jeff no no no people don't know about that I tenant we do need in society how else are strippers getting bored also I was going to say something about the multiple purple thing it does apply to both sexes top listen without a top full frontal mean you see genitalia on men or women yes okay gender term look up a definite let me add yes I'll tell you I that I I was going to call it a night talk to uh Chris my work the Nerdist if you get a chance he is just on an interview with Morgan Morgan Spurlock so you might be able to contact get the content from them so right now matt morgan if you want to hook you up on the contact alright so let's work backwards that's a thought well okay Titanic that's fine that's that's a mean joke I think and we also got a lot of emails from people getting mad at you for getting mad at people that didn't know what tight end oh no I'm well within my right here damn idiot if you don't know about that that's something you learn in like you just not like I don't know you know why because I don't know why I know that that's because you were taught in school for no reason wasn't movie was the moment begin by saying this is based on you're saying we're like James Cameron shape done in the fall he know he think he knew that it was something you would know exactly like a movie about World War two exactly and that we landed on the moon based on a novel by yeah there's a lot of things that happened that you just know you just find out because you live your life I know and you know and you my attention okay my argument is that there are more important historical subjects teaching no I do not disagree okay maybe just learn that in school it shows how popular Titanic is that it started to overwhelm people's knowledge of the actual event and that's the thing though the fact that it was this blockbuster moose Gary yeah and that it was such a popular thing however many years ago that came out us and for you to still not know after that okay but you water so many people that were born after I don't years after them if you're coming if you're under the only channel if you're under the age of ten that is fine aren't your older enough if you're old enough to operate a Twitter account and you don't know that I'm sorry should be put in jail aren't they curious why James Cameron keeps going down under the ocean right he's delusional what do you think it believes it's down there he's down there he's seen it we've seen photos yeah it's down there how would they not that's the part I don't get yeah pretty obvious that he's been in the ocean a lot you know like I wanted should we read that email the guy was like so mad Oh feels like you're an asshole everyone knows Titanic was a hoax just like the lemon land that room just like the movie was a Disney hugs what a Disney who is a Disney ride that became it's based on the Pirates of the Caribbean pirates full frontal we're arguing about that yesterday full frontal does not only apply GL I'm gonna say anecdotally it does because there are so many more instances of male full frontal and movies throughout the history of seven can you name one movie that showed female full frontal I'm boots not blind I can name 10 I cuz they're all because i have a mall very cute up in my brain I think that's because intimate with a guy you need to get down to the lower package to be something that you wouldn't see on a basketball court yeah whereas like with uh with uh with women just the existence of the top is already enough in a movie to go who like uh like what's-her-name best times ridgemont high oh sure that's the moment so it's like a lot of times you don't need to continue right movie might say okay we've done our titillation as anywhere rejecting me to say that at all I understand it's the only I think the big point is that its cultural and it's just like a cultural phenomena he's so mad that is it today I'm really mad that I said that though it's but it's the right word it just so has its upon the unintentional pun or you think um you know I think it's just it's cultural we're just conditioned to become so man sorry not even made a joke about it in the simpsons movie member that in the beginning where they was about shows don't write but they didn't so we're pro dong yeah we're trying to say spread the wealth finally you the whole chris hardwick situation which we people a lot of people want chrishardwick on our program and i definitely want him to we've been in touch with his people a bunch arm and you know it's tough he's out west he's not always here the next time he's out east we're going to make it work and we'll try and make it happen so that's all we can say about that we know he in viewed Morgan Spurlock recently we're gonna Morgan spot tomorrow on our programs gonna be here so uh cool cuz i talked to morgan he'll get you touch yeah no let's let him do that and we'll uh what will settle dishes ah yeah so don't worry a lot of guests coming up that will have a lot of fun with and hopefully down the road we can welcome Chris as well uh and that's it we're done for the day bye we got see you later we got to get out of here eight six six four for Cena is the number to call and the 44 @ sina com that is how you can email us check out our blog every day the 44 dot cnet com follow Scott's down on twitter at jet scotch at jet scott and read all this fine doings on the cnet yeah all right thank you excellent and great to be on for sure thank you for being here always a pleasure you'll be back soon awesome alright i'm laughing i'm likely that generation sooner than titillate later than titillation can handle full frontal it was a little full photo before a glut just across addition there's a good one all right uh please check all and check out the comic today you'll hi everyone has fun with that what else what's going on with you nothing nothing nothing you want to pick my blog full frontal front of Justin full frontal tumblr Justin you calm yeah we'll see you guys tomorrow don't forget Morgan Spurlock is going to be on the show talking about his new comic con movie please send your tweets and your emails to us and we'll we'll get Morgan to answer as many as we possibly can we until then we will see it also it's going to be a little earlier the live show tomorrow we'll see you tomorrow if bakalar and i'm justin you it's the 44 high-tech lowbrow have a great thursday morgan spurlock tomorrow we'll see it you
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