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it's Friday April 13 2012 you've tuned into the 44 show on CNN TV I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm Justin you and this is the show where we're getting lucky with Morgan Spurlock oh yeah by day the 13th but we actually are pretty lucky because you know we got you on the show today man and it's such a pleasure we're such huge admirers of your work and it's mustache ride friday mmm hey hey hop on that's great must be this tall to ride that's not does not get any better than that not even I do you're a lot taller than I thought I saw this mi amore amore lips like this gigantic man coming in this day oh it's Morgan Spurlock again thank you so much I don't know why that is people think I guess yeah once they see you you know intelligent movies are like everything everybody's like Tom Cruise height like everybody is like gonna be poor foot nothin right the case no they shoot you from a very high exactly all my cameraman or seven people right there dude god he looks so tiny portable jibs everybody following a very good that's what that's like sure my camera guy's name is Jim no that's what I mean you talk about someone being born for their so exactly well again thank you so much for being here thank you uh you're here promoting a brand new movie which the three of us were lucky enough to check out the other day it's called comic-con episode 4 fans hope rolls off the time it does just like the last movie the proposal represents the greatest movie ever sold I'm just trying to make the longest most difficult idols mom you're just trying to piss off every marquee curator in the world runs out a letter the guys like damn it god again he there he is we need more letters here's another movie from his burrow buy more letters that's why the next movie only has you know seven titles or seven letters it's great that's right and maybe we'll get to that a little bit as well yeah uh like we said we're really big fans is so is a big pleasure for us to have you here thank you uh we watched the movie it's really good we actually really surprised we were really big we were shocked we were shocked that we actually enjoyed it you know usually this stuff that he does but make such crap but this one we actually watched it was amazing what's crazy about this though is it's sort of out of your mo for the most part a lot of your films in the past dealt with maybe more political messages sir to do serious stuff yeah and this comic con movie is very light-hearted it's endearing it's it's charming that's fun it's a lot of fun to watch is very easy to watch what was sort of the guiding force changing gears with this time either the biggest thing is you know when you watch the film and I tell people all time that that's a though yeah i really liked any other movies and I'm like well then you're gonna love comic con episode for that because because I'm not in one frame of the movie right let you know I think they're not in one frame I don't do the voiceover you don't hear me you don't see me so if you've hated every film I've made up til now where you watch this movie it's a breath of fresh you should give this film a chance Kenneth Turan from the LA Times likely love this film and is the first film ever mine days like then I'm convinced just cuz I wasn't convinced that's what's at which I'm surprised that's why the New York Post like also hates every film ever made was like well I'm not in this one they're gonna love this movie or star not so much now they'd like well screw them so what's amazing though to me is that you know that's part of the your movie experience to me when I watched you know if like supersize me and and the 30 days on FX stuff like that yeah do you have this charm about you you you are really good at telling stories and whatnot and this whole time we didn't know going into it in the whole time I'm like all I can you know as a pop up in a second you know you think I'm a stormtrooper helmet yeah yeah the whole time you was Darth Vader ya know the whole thing for me was uh you know i'm i'm a fan i grew up a fan my whole life love comics video games genre movies when michael ironside made that guy's head explode in Cronenberg scanners i change my life forever like that was the moment that made me want to make movie really yeah completely and so um you know but as a fan I didn't want to like make a movie about comic-con is like I'm a fan coming to make a movie about that was just not the story to tell I want to tell the story people who were going to comic-con for very specific reasons that had real goals or missions things they want to accomplish I said there's a better way to kind of tell the story of this kind of pop culture mecca sure and and that's what the film does it profiles a handful of people are everyone from cosplay aspiring professionals yeah aspiring artists arm and then a couple that actually met and fell in love because of comic because of comic-con how many times I her that's geek love man peak love is real it's the most raw of all love that we write not uh and then the the documentary is peppered with the sort of uh intimate interviews with celebrities people in the industry people who are geeks at heart yeah and it just guides the story along pretty well yet that we had amazing enemies people like you know Kevin Smith in and Seth Rogen's have green Kenneth Branagh you know Frank Miller Stanley Joss Whedon vain it's epic Frank Miller we were we have had you get had to find him where is he I mean he's there Clues but he comes out for comic con way he pops out shows up he'll do a signing real to a panel he's in and out of town really quickly but one of the producers on the film with us is Thomas toll from legendary pictures you know legendary who made 300 it's like he's got a great relationship with Frank and was able to like the kind of squeaky man that's pretty cool yeah we were all so psyched that you found Corey Feldman yeah I know where you found that or he's well look because well because Corey Feldman actually has a comic book label we're done which is which is amazing i think you have people like you have him you have gerard way you have thomas jane you have some of these guys who have basically said there's really something here about these stories and it basically launch their own comic labels that was the biggest present cause at quinto you know like there's so many folks Thomas J no you know it's sort of like people come out they're like oh you know they come out and they're like wearing a cape and he came and he came out drunk him with no shoes on he showed up for his interview we interviewed him like first thing the more like nine in the morning he showed up loaded ladies like he had not been to bed all night it was there barefoot am like wow Thomas J drunken bear but right now we're gonna go with that life imitating exactly seriously it's like the D is the punisher looking was there any uh celebrity that you sort of came into contact or any sort of a public figure that you were surprised I'd like really you sir or ma'am I brought it we interviewed Kenneth Branagh for the film and uh you kid Branagh was there was the year that Thor was coming out and he gave such an amazing interview like a broader who like broke down why comics matter and about why heroes are important and told talking about it from Shakespearean terms and and he talks about how Shakespeare alive today Shakespeare would be at comic-con is what comic con represent I mean it was an amazing interview right and so for him i was i was very impressed that's that's really cool the the films also produced Joss Whedon Stanley what was it like working with that God is like I met Stanley the whole idea of the film came from just this chance conversation i had with Stan in 2009 I got hired by fox through the simpsons 20th anniversary special for them and so the minute we got that job i said we're going to comic-con right I'd never been so we're going to come come we're gonna cast for Simpson superfans we're gonna find these people who are like really rabbit and passionate about the simpsons and while we were there shooting that i met Stanley one night at a party one over to introduce myself just to tell him you know how much he changed my life as a kid how his comics know made me want to tell my own stories and he goes all my god morgon things it's really nice you say you know we we should we should make a movie together yeah we should make a documentary we should make a documentary about comic-con and I was like yes we should mr. Lee Italian cut to a year later we were making a movie with you know with him with Joss Whedon CEO thomas toll from legendary pictures Harry Knowles Nina cool news mean it was it was epic the way the whole thing came together that really is amazing and a much better Stanley impression that I thought of that is not that I mean in the greatest part is they sure they sort of a follow Stanley through these corridors with the Steadicam and that sort of just like him be like no you're the greatest thank you I you and I shaking hands give me the most gracious guy you'll ever meet like the the greatest thing I learned from hanging out stand being around him so much making this movie is just how good he is with the people that basically keep him employed yet like these people who buys comics who support him for years and he gives everybody so much of his time and he won't ever pass up a photograph an autograph a picture with a kid like anybody that he will give you the time to talk and it's amazing that is amazing um you know and it's interesting because he's an older dude uh Marvel's been 89 e nine years old mean and he still goes non-stop like you like he's playing racquetball and he's like we were a comic-con we were out with him a common till four in the morning like the guy the guy is a machine it's incredible that's really cool to hear uh yeah and in you know Marvel has had so much success overall my decades and decades and then just in the past 15-20 years the the franchises that are just becoming epic and just these huge sort of you know industries in their own right yeah uh you know does he ever express how that sort of effects and because it happened so much later in in in I think lifetime well I think he's so grateful I mean here's a guy who when I started watching I got turned on spider-man comics from watching spiderman on the electric company right when they have this like these that he's really bad live-action spider-man's not that I was like this is amazing and Stanley would do the voiceover for like he would tell the stories and that's why I started reading his comics you know that would've been like you know mid seventies you know into the like lid the mid seventies early eighties and it was remarkable you know and so when you look at kind of what's happened with Marvel with comics with how they've so blossomed and become you know these you know tentpole movies some of the best movies being made now in this summer is gonna be the biggest box-office summer year for the firs honor films you got hunger games into the Avengers into the dark night into spider-man like this is going to be the biggest summer box-office ever and i think that Stan just realizes he's fortunate to have had any success usually whenever you have any success is great but i think he is so grateful for what's happened right on yeah on you mentioned a little before that you yourself you you have this love for comics what for you personally and specifically yeah what is it about comics in terms of characters are there any specific characters that you have a very close passionate all knows as a kid it was plastic man like I still I still have such an affinity to Plastic Man really yeah and I loved plies the Plastic Man comic book i love the plastic man khartoum they started making it like I what I wanted to make plastic man if I was gonna make an animator live-action movies like that's the one I want to make I would make plastic me as a superhero movie right now Bruce can was a little bit too old playhouse man so I gotta find a new guy with the chin you could be that guy but uh but yet like no I love that as a kid into this day um you know I still read a ton of stunna comics people say you know either like all the comic comic books are dying as I comic books as books as paper things are dying for sure you know but as an industry its flourishing right now I buy more comics digitally than I ever did as a kid yep download them from comiXology stream my ipad right never even leave the house never have to put on pants get out of bed and never it's amazing that s and and what I said I told this somebody else what I think is exciting about this like there was this real kind of democratization of cinema that happened a few years ago where you know things like you know the advent of like high definition cameras prosumer cameras cheap editing software and computers if you had a camera in a computer and a good idea you could make a movie if the barrier of entry now for animators for artists people who can now make their own comic book is now gone so now you can literally make your own digital comic sure they can have an audience the same thing has happened in this industry while people say no it's dying i say i completely disagree i think there's going to be even more great independent work come out now because now i don't need a big publisher yeah now i don't need you know to have you know a DC or marvel like pay for the printing costs not twenty thirty thousand dollars now it's like as bits my time it's sweat equity and for me to get it out digitally like it's it that there's gonna be so much great stuff coming out in the next few years I think it's exciting it happened to the music industry that's right happened to books literature and now it's happening come and now seven comic books and i think that uh you know i think it is going to be completely it's gonna be reinvigorated you know in a way that I think we don't really know but i think you know comics you there there is some nostalgia still to comic books and there will be people who collect them i think what will happen with the printed comic is it will become it'll become more of a more of a a collector's item I think what I know record I what I think what they'll do is they'll do limited edition runs I think they'll do like one of five hundred you know where then you like get a numbered print of this comic book because so then it really does have value because there's there's such a limited supply I think that's the way they'll go with these these comics and graphic novels Jeff and I well we're watching the movie we're sort of lamenting the idea of having those long stacks of comic books where you'd have the dividers a new rifle through all of them and I think that comics now that they're so digital yeah so you've lost I collectors element part of it and it's something that I kind of Miss like turning the pages i read comics on my ipad right now because i just can't afford to buy like a two-dollar connick every day yeah excited it's and for me it's just it's it's a changing the tide don't you know i don't want to go I don't want to carry a ton of books around yeah I don't wanna carry ton of books in my bag when I travel or like on my iPad I can have you know you know dozens of books you know dozens of comics graphic novels are fantastic it's also crazy to think that with the new Retina display on the iPad they actually look better on a digital screen than they ever did yeah by holding it close to you right you can't do that's one of the most under discussed features of this new iPad I feel like just how amazing comics look on this new screen all I mean they've so pop the sharpness you know even on I had an ipad 2 and i just upgraded you compare them and there is a subtle but just that clarity in that sharpness it's really awesome I mean it nice it's tough to be like well I don't you know okay I don't need a book anymore yeah exactly yeah I have no problem letting that guy I don't have a problem you go either yeah it's just it's just something we all have to get used to but I I do agree there is something about check out my collection behind me yes rate which is jamming you enjoy you can still collect you can still be that guy that does that but for me it's like I've so downsized my life like in the last few years like I had so many dvds and I had walls of DVD that I never watched it and so I finally got to the point when I moved into a new apartment I was like why why did I have all this stuff why do I have all these dvds that I never watched so i purged so many of that so much of that stuff and because there's a bunch stuff that I still do collect but like but on the halls like why I'm this other stuff i'm just i'm not even enjoying right there is something liberating about uh detaching yourself from the physical object is awesome right yeah that's it's it's enjoyable thing are there was there was a character that you guys were following Oh character I of comic book salesman yet Chomsky who's phenomenal who was a very interesting dude and and passion probably one of the most successful probably not the most successful comic retail in the United States has mile-high comics uh he's my comics com check it out he has like the large selection of comic books in the United States probably in the world uh he ships anywhere in the United States like it's amazing like his sword he just moved into a new warehouses like 60,000 square feet Milo its mind-blowing but it's the amount of comics he has is incredible this guy's been doing it for decades right for decades now and he loves it he loves what comics represent he loves the idea of them the smell like there's a scene in the movie where there huffing comics and then they're smelling the table like like you smell that and they like oh yeah that's the Midwest that's a nice that's a that's Indiana rating smell that's Indiana like they can tell wishes have come from just based on how they smell it's amazing that was the Requiem part of via of the film but that was a really really cool um and his ark basically surrounded about you know the sort of transition in digital him struggling with sales and stuff him trying to keep his business alive you know because here he is he's at this crossroads of people who love and collect comics and a new generation who love comics but aren't just buying them right they don't collect them they uh they become something you know as I said much more nostalgic than something you have to have he also talks about how the comic con in general which is not so much about comics anywhere you have movie premieres you have panel discussion yeah toys video games so much more than just comics I'd ever gonna stop calling it that yeah I mean I think it'll still be it'll still be comics I think it's still rooted in the comic book like that's the the Alpha the Omega this place is still coming from comic and comic book culture right and there's still tons of artists they're artists alley still exists I think you will see the vendors of paper comics continuing to get smaller just because there's gonna be less and less demand it makes sense just by you know in terms of evolution of the industry that's right arm it was interesting the interviewees that you uh got to talk to other theme that was going on was basically how comic-con has evolved into not just a comic book show but basically a sort of platform for any franchise that is capable of being obsessed with that's right which is a very interesting sort of the regular there's a glee panel there i guess like here two ago it was it was near shooting it was the year after and I was it was here we shooting there was a Glee panel for the first time they're like it because like a gleep an already regoli really glad he doesn't he was it he was so upset that the glee pedals there and uh but it yet but it's india anything you can obsess over they have something there for and but it's the the video games makes so much sense the extension of video game culture being there like Holly Conrad one of the people we follow in the film Mass Effect you know kind of watched her and she said in their interview something that was really i think eloquent in terms of putting it in perspective for people like myself where she goes mass effect like video games for me are what Star Wars was for you yes like you know Star Wars which is this thing that came along that changed everything for you like that's what's happened with video games for my generation like shouldn't we play these deep experience video games that tell stories to tell overarching stories with characters and you get involved in the community around them she goes that's what's happening is like there's this shift into this gaming culture and whether it's you know mass effect or halo you know whatever like they have really deep experiences with loyal fans and that's in specifically with mass effect and it's perfect the the timing with that because mass effect 3 obviously just hitting yeah the whole you know I talk to people who will say without stuttering without flinching mass effect is their favorite piece of sci-fi uh you know fantasy all yet that's real policy yeah that's what Holly says and uh and you know she got me to play the game which I enjoyed game very much but it's still not Star Wars to me yes I'm using the star what is greater than isolated to me it is absolutely alright yeah the definitive Morgan Spurlock I think I did I think I when I take a step back Slyke not only impact I had me but the cultural impact of that film i think is still much greater than math yes i agree with that absolutely um have you heard about the uh there's there's all these different theories about watching Star Wars out of order and like there's a right way to watch it I've heard of the machete letter I thought the right way to watch it was start with number four five and six and then be done exactly that was a curve I just sort of put your drink on the case of allegory and those are the coasters while you are exactly it's a drink holder uh but yeah there's all this interesting stuff to check out about that arm i also want to talk about more into the where comic-con is going there are a lot of people who seem bitter about where it is going you mentioned the glee thing as a hardcore sort of comic book guy you know I think we can all sort of like things that I think there are things that probably shouldn't be at college sure you know like glee probably shouldn't shouldn't have been able to have a panel at comic-con yeah I understand I understand that that it is beyond just comic books or sci-fi culture their video games now they want to create things that you know is that are the popular arts anything that has a popular fan base or audience that like they want this to be a place where you can congregate comfortably and be happy about it and all come together and is as Joss Whedon says in the film are we not dope right all being so we're all being so obsessive over this one thing so I understand why they want to do it but yeah the there's things that like the leap and I understand but that's what I love the panels that they have a comic opera share the fact that they have this this incredible experience where you can have writers come and talk about writing the shows that you love or the movies that they make the production designers that talk about it i mean there's such a deep experience within comic-con and one of things that i predict will happen in the next few years is that because there's so many people who want to go so many people they can't like that the place sells out like a rock on so yeah like within our but yeah i think this year i think this year was less than 90 minutes that they sold out a hundred and fifty thousand passes to come on and i think what they will start doing and if they'd if they aren't then i will suggest it to them what I predict what I predict they'll start doing is what what Ted does is that they'll start making the panels and things that are happening live real time on the web right you could pay 500 bucks sure our orbital or less what are fifty bucks it's not like 50 bucks to watch you know just the the panels from your house you know you can select your handle I streaming watch them live ithaca multiples you have you know that you watch all the panels you may not get the expiry can watch the panels like i predict some like that will happen and tons of people will watch oh yes indicated and everyone will pay and will be huge enormous that's right i mean get some copyright like a lil something by there right there are few people is right exactly David Glanzer that was my idea here you go I'm calling you guys right now yeah i definitely understand the whole idea geeks getting bitter about not being able to attend comic-con when there are panels likely i feel like uh gigs have always suffered for their passion when up people describe comic-con as this mecca where they can go and you know they feel they even get in exactly now that they're banned from it bitches other people are there yes like uh you know all for the rest of the year they feel like outcasts and this is the place where they go and they describe it in the movie as you know like they're people like minds that go there yeah like the the what i love the one person says the film's girl says use it's like we have our own country this time we have our own Reds our country its place where we can go you know nobody looks at us differently no it looks at us weird i love yet film because nobody looks at you strange cuz you're a six foot two black men the likes were supergirl costume like you are completely normal you know that point it's it's fantastic if only that behavior could translate in the real world that's right right yep kinda has all the answers it is a comic-con is a place where you know it is uh that all the tribes have learned to love each other and get along it's a utopia and so the Trekkies in the Star Wars fans can get along why can't we all exactly better well said I think my favorite part of the movie is when they're uh sort of prepping one of the girls that hasn't ever been to comic-con before and they're describing the smell another conference floor and I've been to the Javits Center New York Comic Con and also the one in San Diego there's definitely a distinct smell well and especially by like day day three day four where people are wearing the same costume they've been wearing that for three days cuz it's the pits not the people because there's people who come like alodia is in the film is there's a as a professional cause player named alodia comes from the Philippines that we follow in the movie and she literally gets paid to go to Comic Cons and dress up it's amazingly that's her full-time job and she looks bananas yeah like she looks like an anime character um but but nobody's like they're like she travels you know with like a makeup person and she has a different costume every day most you'll know do that most will have their one costume that they were every day that gets all funky and just keeps getting funkier as the time goes on so by Sunday like those costumes some of those costumes are right there's no wardrobe change know the order there's nobody cleaning that it's just and it's sunk into the walls in the carpet like some good doctor by Sunday yeah that's bad news is bad news but that's what that's why you know that's the like you do what I do and you wait and do all of your shopping until sunday afternoon like I don't start shopping till this two hours left of comic-con really and that's when I go buy anything that I want because at that point everything's on sale yeah there's nobody wants to pack it up and take it home share so you have to brave the funk yeah but you get really crazy sars news gonna get a gas mask get a gas mask the money spent on the gas mask you'll save in the toy exact so works out well the gas mask pays for itself I tell you the boot that I want to set up which is again and again Sammy's gonna take my idea is I want to get a booth at comic-con that sells costumes really nobody sells costumes at comic-con I'm like you would clean up if you sold costumers there you would clean like there's nobody there selling these costumes and because everybody's there like you start seeing people wear them like I want to wear a costume I wanted if you had that you would like print money of course and it would be the greatest thing I thought you were gonna say a pine tree air fresh pine stand right next door to the costume boot like the necklace versions yeah i think the costumes like fifty dollars behind reassures are a thousand that's ridiculous very funny uh the movie comic-con episode for a fans hope it's out right now on demand everywhere it's everywhere cuz when we released the film you know was in select theaters and when greatest movie ever sold came out like I did all this press for the movie I was everywhere like and within a week and a half of that movie coming out i was on conan i was on colbert i was on jimmy kimmel like all within 10 days in the movie opened on 18 screens right so most people in the entire country couldn't even see it should i said we're not going to release the movie like that again so this one like we released it in select theaters it's in like la San Francisco Portland this week it opens in New York DC Boston but at the same time it's day-and-date video on demand on itunes on xbox on playstation voodoo you name it like it is everywhere any place you can download digital movies you can watch it that's very cool so if you have the internet I mean you're doing you got the world wide interweb if that Internet's coming into you that's right you're gonna be able you got access you do you can watch the movie right and I recently just did that for the first time I checked out have you heard of goon yeah this the I secondly I her which I heard funny it's very funny yeah and if you're a nice i can you absolutely love it I'd never done the whole on demand with my cable box thing before it's I sound like I'm from a different point what is this the future I could what is the movie in my house I'm trying to shove a dollar bill into my caleb us it's not working but and I was like wow this is great lazy no as a filmmaker what do you think of that because a big topic of discussion on the show is how the movie going experience like getting into the theater and obviously it varies by just experience though it is an experience positive or negative I find lately it's been neg depends on the movie for me it depends on sale like there's movies like I want to go see in a movie theater right um you know like documentaries most documentaries I will watch documentaries at my house unless it's like burner hertzog cave of forgotten dreams or Pina you know like these 3d movies that came out with last year that are beautiful spectacles to watch sure but you know most docs I think you can watch on television I'm in your house but like the Avengers I'm not gonna watch The Avengers on my house on demand like I want to see the vengers in a movie theater aight i want to see that on the biggest screen i possibly can with a whole bunch of Yahoo's in the audience we're gonna be as excited as me exactly like that's where I want to see then there's those movies that you want to have that experience with avatar I wanted to see in imax 3d right i wanted to see that in a theater but for me I think that there is something special and especially a comic con because there is a great theatrical experience that you have with this film so we partnered with a company called tug at Tugg calm right where anybody that wants to host a screening in their town can sign up with tug basically you become the promoter if you can like you know partner with a comic book shop whatever you sell a certain number of tickets you trigger the movie and then you can have your own kind of comic-con screening in your town people come in costume you can create an event around it really cool it's cool so now we're doing these tug events all across the United States and been kind of partnership with the same type of you know digital release because I think there are people who want that theatrical experience just like I do right now I love that and a movie like this is fun to see in a movie theater with other people in costumes it's crazy sure um or you may just want to watch it at home what I mean to be totally as I've become a little jaded if the movie-going experience I think it's sort of and maybe I don't know maybe seeing one in Manhattan is not the greatest venues to see a film depends where you go the cuz I'm a big fan of the kips bay on the east side of a theater is the best place for sure I agree with that arm mount Hoboken there's a theater there that still has that you know uh feel realistic seats wellness is relatively new arm but there there is that sort of feel of like over a respectable film watching experience all right no everyone knows that what the cell phones in I don't I just maybe I'm too easily damaged don't go to movie in Brooklyn where people are yelling at the screen the whole time and like they're talking on their phones during the movie I'm like really it's not the part where he calmly tells everybody exactly exactly it's a very noice I'm the people I remember I stopped going to the Union Square movie theater last year when they had bedbugs there's a crazy outlaw seats I will never go to cater yeah you've just given me such the scheme's oh my god you'll never go that they don't touch anything it's like outbreak meets contagious that's right place exactly it's a regal right that's a recent yet is yes cross that off there and that is all my Thank You union square let's switch gears a little bit we only have a few more minutes with you i wish i could go longer but maybe you'll come back i look at that be awesome would love to um we want to get into the whole street art sort of thing that's been going on and we recently found out that you yourself are a big fan yeah and you're actually curating an exhibit called the new blood yes all I think space gallery in Los Angeles it opens April twenty-eighth April twenty-eighth features amazing artists like saber Melrose Garcia design Ron English you know kid zoom tim biskup Gary baseman you know it's it's awesome and it's very cool because Super Size Me was actually my first exposure to Ron English yeah I I didn't I just love the art and if you recall to the film for people who are listening it basically breaks up the chapters they're sort of like slope and when he any old and all those paintings already existed like I went and met with Ron and interviewed him after I saw one of his original his original fat Ronald paintings MC supersize which he then recreated like the the the MC supersize you see everywhere now was the one he created for our Super Size Me poster for Sundance right and that's now gone everywhere but ron was the one who kind of got me into the whole kind of street art scene lowbrow art see sure I started running around with him and meeting all these amazing people SAS Christian Colin Christian you know uh tara mcpherson you know was the guy just got to meet so many these people and love the art and just became obsessed over like that's the one thing that I'd collect you know obsessively is is street art really yeah that's cool um yeah I mean that that scene is just exploded it's incredible and like what's interesting about the new blood show is that there's this generation now of artists who who now are growing up with that as their influence yeah like these the people now who've grown up you know looking up to the people like Ron English ramirez garcia shepard fairey who are now using them as their model of this is what i want to be that's what i want to spire to be so for me that's what this this art show is about it's about this transition of kind of passing the torch from that generation of artists to the next ones and each one of the people in the show has been handpicked by the artists they're the established artists are saying here's the new blood here's the artist you need to know about and some of them have been there protégées their apprentices or just people they think that you know we need to get a handle on yeah I mean it's um you know uh having watch stuff like uh exit through the gift shop it's just very I mean aside from whether or not that is yeah what it says it is mr. brainwash is for real he's a real guy we followed him in our hulu series a day in the life yeah he's he's the real deal i do think but i do think banks he recognized like i have the chance to create yeah an artist is very dark and is that what you think I mean there's there seems to be a divide I think I think that um I think that he was already wanting to be an artist every started shooting and start creating his own art I think banks he encouraged him and even banks he said you should pick a date for a show right and I think Banksy at that point start realizing the end of this film is gonna be this guy he's not a dumb guy he know sort of brilliant he sort of realized wait a second and so things happen in his greatest gift of the art world is saying look I created this right I create my greatest art creation in art is mr. it was like street art inception that's right he really likes he incepted us all with mr. brainwash and la seems like a better venue for street art of that caliber I was I wanted to ask you you know in your experience collecting exhibiting do you feel like there's a difference in the way that the west coast embrace of street art as opposed to the east coast I remember when well the graphics project was supposed to happen in the Brooklyn art museum that's right and that got shut down because they're worried that kids will be influenced starts break I mean have they been to Brooklyn I know yeah there's my pain everywhere it's already yeah really attentive and set when are in the streets didn't come out here because i'm from the west coast but i was here that show was so good it was an Roger Gastman who did the book the history graffiti he was one of the co-creators on that show I mean they did such an amazing job on that and I think like the graffiti scene you know there's a tremendous amount of street art here the graffiti art scene really kind of wood born out of like the New York the New York seen this is where it kind of came from sure the first wall writers and then kind of expanded across the country but I think in terms of like graffiti art being accepted yes in terms of graffiti are being accepted into the art world the art world still driven by popular New York gallery like as much as you have something in a show at you know in LA in a gallery you want gagosian to take your stuff right you want you want to be in a big New York City gallery I think that you rec'd this this is still where I think the the hard numbers are defined in in the art scene yet I mean it's interesting to see also how you have these guys who you know there's that those core people who again they resist the you know explosiveness they resist the selling out quote-unquote of it all but you know I think I'm like you said the generations that are influenced by this movement are really they're the ones to watch because it's sort of like okay this has had its day let's see where it goes from here yeah and to me that's probably the most interesting part of it and I just think it's amazing to living in in places like this where you can have these artists come in arm uh there was a roller have you heard of rodents unbelievable dumating Belgium I think she's from he count he comes and it's just like one day you just get all these photos you're like look who is in Brooklyn look who is there d face was just here like a couple ways and it's just like it's a bit cool you're just gonna pay I love it you come and do what you gotta do is there a future in I would I mean I'm just saying I think I'm gonna just ask you now sure can you do something can you make a film about street artists or do you know I mean I just I I would clearly passion I'm so passionate I've talked about this with a few different people like I would love to make a film you know almost like a you know some sort of a sphere film I just don't know what the what the angle is do you just tell it from different people's points of view right you know how do you what is that movie and so because for me it is something that I so really believe in I'm so passionate about I'm sure yes four inches i don't know what the the angle is to get into the film without just being a historical film like just you know Roger Gastman who is what I was just talking about he's just done a film called wall riders which basically talks about the history of graffiti up to I think it kind of ends with almost like right before the hip hop movement kind of exploded like I don't know where it stops which I think hip-hop was the next step of kind of graffiti becoming even more popular just because it was very much entangled into the hip-hop culture and then from there was when it really became art right really it was after the hip hop scene was and when it suddenly people suddenly started becoming artists that were able to sell works far that pay actually people paid for um you know I think that you know to tell that story I think will be fascinating but I think Rogers already kind of running down the path right on yeah very cool well unfortunately we are running out of time I would love to be able to pick your brain for hours to come but hopefully I'll be back and I would love to come back we would really appreciate that again comic-con episode for a fans hope it sad now on demand and select cities check out the website and that is where sir you can go to comic-con movie com and if you want to bring the movie to your hometown tug com or watch it on demand itunes go home this week and have a little geek parties your friends over joy yourself without too many friends no just a view just a couple like you somebody with a lightsaber something with some hobbit right put on you put on your bat wings would be great for sure and then take a photo and send it to it that's right see that you could follow Morgan on twitter at Morgan Spurlock we didn't even mention twitter at all but uh never is that's getting a given i like i like the twitter yeah FN yeah I dude i'm on twitter all all right excellent make sure you do that and then if you're in LA and you're fortunate enough to get over to the think space gallery April twenty-eighth through May nineteenth correct that's the new blood exhibit curated by Morgan Spurlock I'm just fly out there and an opening ice cream amazing alright yeah mostly artists gonna be there alright sweet again thank you so much for being here we must see you soon best of luck with everything thank you I'm Jeff Bakalar and untrusting you it's the 404 high-tech lowbrow will be back on Monday with a brand new show Katie linendoll was actually had a cameo in Comic Con movie like I see it