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The 404 Ep. 1083: Where we'll have what she's having

2012-06-27
it's wednesday june twenty seven twenty twelve you've tuned into the 404 show on cnet TV i'm jeff bakalar and i'm justin you and this is the show where we'll have what she's having could it be any more perfect of a title mmm I'm waiting for you to make those sound effects we know that that's a different show that we don't air at this time we'll talk more about the life of the great Nora Ephron Oh in a little bit um today's an exciting day for the world of tech they got the google i/o thing going on where Google's going to announce stuff something new android operating system details maybe some Google Glasses stuff google glass whatever that's called it's going on right now while we're taping this so we'll have reactions in response to that stuff on tomorrow's show also on today's show we're going to announce the two winners of the spec ops the line contest thank you for the hundreds and hundreds i'm not joking when i say hundreds and hundreds everyone who commented on our youtube page thanks for doing that you made us look really popular that's awesome so thank you to Jeff's friends that did that well no because uh I don't really have a lot of friends outside of this little studio so no but seriously thank you everyone who uh did their part in that house awesome yeah yeah we can a friends being back arielle Nunez yeah yeah shares back from San Francisco that means you're so much close i'm back in the ugly see changing shares yeah keep i'm a chair shifter yeah it's fine um thanks for coming back Thank You Elmo sayin yeah you were telling I was telling me before he's like not gonna lie guys I almost didn't make it out of that feeling feel good to be back in San Francisco can't blame you so you had a good time I had a really good time proper burritos quite a good buried I was gonna take a picture but I just hate it before I you thought about taking pictures you just didn't stop myself that happens with good food um I want to talk about what we do a little movie talk in the beginning obviously mentioning on Nora Ephron's I say efrain some people say Efron um but the reason I I brought this up is because there is a there is a interesting piece of fake news that got me so excited and I went to super official news.com have you heard of this website no I thought return on or after well we will this sort of leads into it um and it got me so excited it was basically a false blog post about how the big lebowski was going to have a sequel yeah this is kind of like an alternative reality right equal to the and what's crazy is that the right up it doesn't seem very official but it seems marginally believable and it basically talks and about how all the players from the original big lebowski have signed up and are going to be making big lebowski to the dude goes to Washington and it was supposed to be about how john goodman and jeff bridges were trying to protect the bowling alley and the dudes son who he conceived with Julianne Moore's character was now the youngest member of Congress in the in the world was 18 years old and just went on and it really made me sort of yearn for something like this because uh you know there's a lot of crap out there now yeah and we look at what someone like Nora Ephron and we look at what she's done in the amount of like I mean you look at her resume it's shocking the amount of movies that she uh took took part in yeah um obviously when harry met sally comes to mind Sleepless in Seattle she wrote and directed she didn't direct Harry my turn i think that was Rob Reiner but she wrote it she wrote you've got mail directed it shiro Julia and Julia wrote and directed it why do these people have to die man um yeah it's really tragic uh she had her handed a lot of really funny feminist romantic comedies I feel like she almost kind of cornered that that market for romantic comedies I remember you had when harry met sally growing up on VHS tape and watch that so much I feel like that along with sleepless in seattle and you've got mail really just uh I don't know it kind of shaped a generation of romantics absolutely I mean let's be honest she might not have dealt with the most important issues of our time no she was a great storyteller and no one when you really think back about talked about like a solid résumé and uh and sort of uh you know talking was she no one came close to what she was able to do right arm it's just it's just upsetting you know you're watching your battleship movies in your GI Joe movies and you know I feel like that art of just a great comedy that everyone can relate to because I so it does such a good job at emulating real-life relationships yeah there's not I feel like there is really romantic homilies aren't like that anymore they make you feel good right they have a rarely benefits doesn't do the same thing of course not Renee its they're just very beautiful people right right Miller Kunis in Justin Timberlake I mean yes um you know Billy Crystal is not the ugliest guy in the world but he's a much more average Joe than then Justin sure yeah and they have legitimate flaws exactly like Billy Crystal will divorce real-life issues that plague these people and and and you know just dealing with people's relationships all of it now is superficial it's all nah it's all about sex too none of these movies that Nora wrote were directly about sex I mean that's part of the story but it wasn't it wasn't filthy in the way that movies are now bright we've sort of lost this and you know her her career and don't forget she was also an amazing novelist too yeah she had a number of best-selling up items she never won an Oscar she was nominated three times she did win a few other awards so yeah I mean it's not someone that you would automatically assume that we were fans of bright but when you look back at her resume in her career it's like man someone like that you know maybe wasn't appreciated at the very time but looking back it's on blue right and i think uh you know us talking about this comes at a good time because did you read how adam carolla was saying there are no funny female comedians i think last week he said that on his own I don't understand that a lot of male comedians say that but Nora Ephron is uh you know how to say anything else just to talk about like a fantastic screenwriter yeah blows my mind how good she was at that yeah it's crazy I don't know that I didn't yeah he did and I'm never like Amy Schumer Saracen well he was saying that it's a numbers game and if you had to choose a member on your comedic team it'd probably be a male I don't know you want to touch that I'm just saying that Nora FS funniest a policy statement yeah yeah yeah anyway we will we'll move right along with that Justin tell me about we talked about cars that drives them drive themselves yeah and it's something that I feel like Google will eventually have a big part in mmm but what is this that Ford is working on so the Google cars have been coming for a while now but a lot of people don't like the idea of self-driving cars because then it kind of I don't take the fun out of driving right people don't like doing on your brakes and you know it accident right all that some people enjoy like myself I enjoy like driving down the freeway when there's no traffic right and the only time you really want a self-driving cars when they're when you are encountering that kind of thing and uh so I think a better take on the self-driving car is Ford's new traffic assist technology and that's going to be coming out um pretty soon it's like their next step toward autonomous driving cars and so uh what this basically does it uh it reduces like your commute times on a stretch of road by like thirty seven and a half percent by sort of analyzing uh the space you have in your lane this distance between the car in front of you the ones behind you like it maintains a safe distance between those cars okay so this is kind of like what Google is doing but only engages when it notices that you're stuck in traffic so the rest of the time it automatically shuts off the only problem that I have with the story is that i was reading this wired article where it talks about it and it says i'll quote this force as a feature could potentially improve the flow of traffic only where there are no pedestrians no cyclists no animals and where lanes are clearly marked so it's just uh nowhere no that's plenty that's highway traffic I guess but what highway have you been on that with I don't know four lanes are always clearly marked I just don't know if we'll see anytime soon on an automated car that's navigating through something like Manhattan right way too many variables humans can't even do it you need to be scanning within like a mile radius always it's gotta be crazy it's a lot of information for a car to process right talking like they're people now um but yeah I uh yeah I mean this is just inevitable atiba tie don't understand where it'll be okay like how will they roll this out how will they make it so some cars are going to be automated some aren't yeah because some people are still gonna want to hold on to that 1983 Dodge Dynasty right you know what I mean like it's gonna be a problem how are they gonna keep people from not just falling asleep behind the wheel when they don't have to drive in traffic yeah you know if like you're really tired at the end the day and you have to suffer through an hour you know we used to think cars were gonna fly right because watch the building the future yeah they'll think they're gonna bill even the hope alive really pulling for that flying car thing well they're not going to fly but what there are going to do is they're gonna drive themselves like the writing is on the wall for that they're already parking themselves there any parking themselves poorly have you seen one do it not in person on YouTube videos and it did pretty well yeah I mean uh I feel like they still have a lot to perfect with that but what's crazy to me is like all right so we thought cars were gonna fly so that would be the case they would have to revamp the entire department transportation right the the whole highway and roadway infrastructure that the country relies on would need to be basically you know destroyed and then yet created from the ground up not to mention consumables oh it would be a disaster and that's probably why I would never happen but for automated cars they're gonna have to do a sort of similar thing because certain roads will be like must be manual you know I mean and and that's what we're gonna see that'll be like all right you can engage autopilot right is that gonna be like a wireless thing is he has even our car understands it right you know where's that gonna happen you know always wondered we have crumbling bridges and tunnels all across the country yeah we're gonna you know completely reface these gigantic potholes just not I don't know why haven't they made wheels that can rotate all the way around on its own axis so that people can parallel park just by driving to the right right i mean i know exactly we're saying you're basically saying having so if you look at wheels right they only go one more wheels right turn Brett why can't they turn all you wanted to go 90 degrees yet and then and then just try go right into a pie a lot freak inspector gadget's car you just want this thing to turn its kind of easy right with gyroscopes and such popular too and writing about what when we about what an axle looks like right ok ok ok maybe let me put this in words you can understand I know what an accident about what your bicycle shop like yeah all know basically so so that's a thing the the hurdle is getting the car to sort of disengage from its axle which or adding another axle or yeah like or maybe you know having those lifts up and then these little training yeah that's what pushes it in right now but that was very happy that would be great but how much dope that was my idea thing stole not your anything you're the first person ever i do but i think the first time you heard it yeah yeah the question is like why should you have to be traveling straight to go left or right it if if objectively speaking if you look at what parallel parking is right there seems to be a lot of effort for something right that should be easier yeah you have to cut it at the exact right yeah you know you should just be able to you know push that button wheels go up training wheels come down then i think just goes right into the spot exactly i mean billions of tiny feet we're not asking for a lot you guys want to have your automated cars all going might as well do the 90 degree parallel parking that's what I'm feature coming to a car near you I think we're the first two people ever in human history to come up with that idea I think we're the first I think we should get paid for this somehow tell me about this robot that wins rock-paper-scissors yeah a hundred percent of the time yeah how is that possible because I thought that was just a thirty-three percent chance sort of thing yeah well this thing is like me an expert at rock paper you're not that good at rock paper scissors what are you serious I've beaten you many a that's cuz I let you win like a father does to his son no no yeah let's see you come on see not right now what get it yeah let's do this how do you were listening to this well they uh I don't know are you all narrating on the way you gotta say what did it what it is on three no no you go like this it goes Rock Paper Scissors shoot yeah okay okay all right Rock Paper Scissors shoot why is truth right Rock Paper Scissors shoot Rock Paper Scissors shoot all right the point is listening uh just 12 in a row so for the record I'm undefeated against you this is the most engaging radio we've ever done yes god damn right it is you've never beaten me now how does that feel we're gonna have a tournament after this it feel to be such a loser no dare you I'm just saying lamee rock paper scissors lizard spock no yeah well that's ridiculous um this is coming out of i believe japan yet the university of tokyo's oku laboratory they're really working on important stuff you i know they've created this human machine cooperation system it's more of like a proof of concept thing that a machine can recognize uh that what you're gonna throw before even the other person can write so it basically looks for movements in your hands not the psychology is not the psychology yeah it's it isn't like create the permutations in its head right that it just looks at what your hand and your fingers are about to form and if your two fingers are jetting out it'll know that you're doing scissors so that you were to somehow um you know make your throw and and have it like a color like a different color of light right this couldn't do it because it wouldn't win because it can't in these is your hand it might how could it do that I think it's because it doesn't calculate it until the like one millisecond before your finger is fully formed into whatever you choose to be a weapon so this robots dirty cheers it has a hundred percent success rate right because it's she does this is looking at what you're gonna break its cheating that is cheating you're right i mean i've never seen a human do that yeah maybe the the rock paper scissor champions of the world maybe their secrets out but I don't know it gotta think this is probably like third or fourth down the list of things they were this machine to do Fred yeah why what else was it going to do well the other than from what I can tell a prostate exam no idea the idea that uh they want to make it easier for like man and robots to sort of work together right and maybe like a factory production line for you and everyone knows the first rule to robot human synergy look at this is Rock Paper Co yet this does look really funny oh my god always running a video it's a very fast games very present this robot is kicking the crap out of this you know right human head even mimics the movements if you slow your hand down it'll I don't have a good speed of your throat it's pretty good that's pretty good i like that doesn't look like paper mr. robot hand what would happen if you through the Shocker though i don't think you would break it it wouldn't know what to do does not commute and it would just start smoking and sparking wall yeah anyway everybody brain injury fingers yeah that it so i guess three i guess three fingers is paper and it's only a stupid robot get a life robot seriously um alright so let's go break before we get into the audience engagement port right there's a lot to do i want to tease what we have coming up we're going to get into local access cable commercials yeah regionalized spec ops winners richard super psyched about that then a few emails a few voicemails on a lot more fun stick around for four is coming right back alright this is my impression this is my impression of dubstep dirty latina loaded window routine Larry dudo de l'eau de l'eau de rue de Laverty total do ratito download a total dabbled already brutal daughter get out of that refrigerator right now get out of that refrigerator right now welcome back to the 404 that's funny enough to leave in the audio version i think definitely i was good that was good all right we've got so many things to get to big topic conversation lately has been local access commercials and I want to play a few and this is coming from Sam Sam yeah Sam grew up in the same town as I did or the town over called freehold and I had a problem remembering some of these classic jingles he did not and he sent some of them in for us can we do are you can what are you gonna do Fiamma ha the stump easy ok so let me try and do this before yeah it's this I think it's Stumpy's yamaha that's the place something yeah it got all over your face I don't know how exactly only but it was like a grownup boys and girls something Merrill's I don't know let's play it all over your face leather is a cycle wave rising twenties Jen posing all the accessories so when things are just too tame stop here's the Yamaha trying to tone up girls and boys get out oh my gosh I never bought anything from them okay yeah yeah yeahs like it all those Banda mundo pretty awesome right um there's another one due from Sam it's acura of ocean are you familiar with this i think this is all I know is deanna's rich red occurs Acura Ocean counties acura dealer rich red exact yo shun that's pretty kickass nice so thank you Sam that was awesome for sending those in you have a much better memory than I do um Jacob sent in one from my hometown okay Beach California yeah and he was talking about the sit and sleep commercials it's a mattress superstore okay right and they have a really good motto and it goes like this it's a guy shouting and he's like will be anyone's advertised price of your mattresses play that yeah it's too good Oh God or your mattress is free right let's listen at the end me too i hope this is it tired of sharing your christmas holidays with millions of uninvited guests dust mites living in year old mattress then give your old mattress the heave ho ho ho during sentence leaves year end clearance sale save up to fifty percent off 2009 models from Simmons Sealy the due de Mer lies asleep to live our heirloom plus pay nothing for 16 lima bean anyone's advertised price are your mattress this is this is one that I've never heard of Mike be sends us in this one for hof furniture holy goodness gracious we have to watch this whole thing because it's that good all right here we just watch everybody's mattress yeah hot spring free by the mattress look at that kid looking at me in the court my God look at that kid then stop having children guys you won't have to sell so many mattresses if you stop having so many goddamn children oh my god ya see that use like I gotta feed 13-mile I am whatever you do buy a bad ruse that's so awesome thank you might be for sending those in yeah oh we got a lot of these but we just can't play them all I think we're gonna cut it off you know like we just have to cut off yeah we cut off the pet photos now this is a visually were funny but cut off yeah thank you oh goodness that is just good all right spec ops winners uh thank you again to every single person that tuned in and commented on our YouTube video we have two winners let us bring those up on the screen right now the first one is Jeff the banana no relation his comment on our YouTube video the only thing that would make 50 shades of grey tolerable is if it was narrated by morgan freeman good job sir oh that sound like Morgan Freeman I haven't done him in a watch come on they placed his member I don't know is that how that works yeah very good thank you there were times when I thought anyway and then our second winter so Jeff the banana up stay tuned we're going to tell you exactly how you can claim your prize it's a little complicated but the only we could figure out how to do it then vandal 42 says I find it funny because a while ago Jeff said he was reading the Hunger Games on his kindle Justin and her Richard instantly made fun of him calling him a 14 year old girl and Jeff couldn't come up with a comeback just SAT there and took it a rarity anyway you guys are awesome people the good work okay I forgot about that you that's a great comment that's why you've won yes thank you I never finished it but the point is you start reading it but and I don't made for 13 year old you know what I'm still less embarrassed about we are attempting to read Hunger Games yeah literally couldn't get through the first hundred pages arm then but then you are should be a for reading Fifty Shades of Grey and you're just simply a woman uh it's dead a woman girl what would you rather be I'd rather be a woman okay uh so winners here's how you claim your prize for vandal and Jeff the banana you email us the and in the subject line right sotl winner inside the email your handle your address and your console preference okay your mailing address we're then gonna write you back with a secret phrase that you must then post back on the same YouTube Asia we know it's your comment okay just how we have to do it it's a fun you know it's just the way it is and you'll come across a bridge in your heart I answer three we will then send you three know uh the first one to do this though will win the console short preference okay then the other one gets the other one up so the first one to do it like we said what if the other guy doesn't have the console that the other do didn't choose look the world's an imperfect place I mean what do you want me to tell you screws fall out all the time okay I trade someone return it to walmart they're usually pretty cool about that yeah you know I don't know what to tell you we only have one xbox 360 version and one ps3 version so the first person to email us and and and do that will win the one that they want maybe it'll work out great for everybody maybe one of them has both consoles right if you bought one of you have both consoles you'll help us play nice right maybe we plan the contest better next time hey come on it I just kidding yeah tube comment we did almost fun of me ten thousand oh my god yeah alright so that's a deal I didn't know you could we use the word Zach on Twitter so often we there a lot of really heinous covet Oh about me they wanted you to like do something exciting yeah I don't know not gonna bury me with that anyway let's say you want to do some calls from the public yeah sound like something you could get into right who did all right I'm to show the love a jig 6404 cnet i wanna i showed you threw up I want to get that in a second if it falls um let's play the first one hey guys how you doing this is white plains from Brett I'm calling in and I want first off I want to say that you know I'm a longtime listener and for the most part i agree with ninety-nine point nine percent of stuff you guys say it's pretty good like every day like that never really ever skip a beat okay Mike all right now is in regards to what you guys are talking about four orbits calm now I'm just saying that I don't care whatever the reason is that you have a mac or pc whether it's for financial reasons what it was a gift or you know arm oh whatever little performance yeah the thing with orbitz.com is that everybody should have the same opportunity the same deals if you go to orbitz.com you're going there for the same reason I want the best deal okay so all right my thing is that you could kill that all right um so if you don't know we're talking about yesterday headlines came out that orbits the travel agent site was sniffing out what OS you or what kind of computer you had and then delivering different priced deals to you so if you were using a Mac you were actually getting you were getting pushed more expensive deals than you would if you're using a pc right that said the prices weren't different they were just feeding you ones at different times so if you you all the prices were there right you could reset the filter and get the same price as anyone else you do fault it was all like the deep right sort of search returned stuff yeah that's fine and I understand what what our buddies uh you know trying to say on the phone but think about it it's all economics it's all relative when you come to New York just because you live in New York you're gonna spend more money because it's a more expensive city yeah it's just the way it is but the caller also brings up a good point is that not everyone that owns a mac bought one for themselves in finance that's fine so it on a long enough timeline it works out that the people with more money or spending more money on orbitz I other go into by also don't think he knows that you can it's all the same deals out there they're just presented differently right it's like you know you go to different places and their present differently it's all psychology if you're going to orbitz.com you have the mindset of a very strict budget man you want to get the best deal that's why you're on orbitz and not the individual airline right so I'm hoping that most people go and shop around anyway not to take the price what orbits is trying to bank on is the I don't know think about someone who buys a Mac that probably doesn't need one money maybe not might not be a big issue to them okay some people think you know they're spending more money on a trip they're gonna have a better time right so I think that's what they're trying to play into so you know if you're silly enough to sort of overlook that stuff you kind of deserve to get ripped off maybe all right I don't know that's just but thanks for the call that definitely is a it's a cool conversation next call it what's going on guys it's what Palm Beach from desean post into Monday's podcast just now and you guys are talking about the jingles and ads and stuff like that that they usually play the regional nationally and it was just thinking about how down here in West Palm we don't really have any Long John Silver's or red robin but they play the commercials all the time it was that he show you whether they're an evening that I never didn't learn what have you but I did find that when they were playing the sonic commercials even having me down here either and then about two or three years later they started papa yes right so this is a problem I've started to notice this to you will start getting local regionalized ads right for products that aren't there but maybe you will come in the future the same thing happen to me in my hometown in Orange County there was no Sonic's but they were commercials advertising the drinks and I think it was a hype machine type thing yeah so they're laying the groundwork yeah let plan the season hopefully when it blooms into nice flower if so you have such a subconscious craving for Sonic yeah you have to go Red Robin listen jack all right cool thank you for the call sir West paw I used to go to west palm beach all the time to visit my my grandparents so that happened okay a lot of early bird specials finally Oh what's up 40 for this is princeton from eric just wanted to make a comment on Tuesday show was very nostalgic my brother used to work at the east brunswick square mall and yet to come home with those orbits drinks believe there's a big vending machine they used to sell them with those dipping dots little ice cream dots remember those not really sure what that's all about I also wanted to say that I am A winamp user I remember my brother got me into it back in st. 99 and you know I tried itunes but it's just too clunky so I went back to winamp I believe that version 5.3 I believe he's a lot unfortunately all the kick butt skins from back in the day are compatible with the recent version but when it takes total but alright guys peace that's cool I didn't realize there were still people that use it have you ever use it ever know they have a bit newest version yeah I was turned and they're all the way up to like Windows winamp seven no yeah for these guys yeah alright yeah dippin dots you dippin dots yeah I tried them once at Disneyland it did not like good right yeah you're short of just like oh I'll try this weird sci-fi food you know it's like eating space ice cream almost ya SiC freeze-dried that sort of thing uh yeah they went out of business I heard dippin dots yeah dippin dots that was a really quick fat feel like everyone was really into it for like seven seven years it lasted no it was like a boardwalk thing yeah there's a sure thing um finally an email from what can I get a choco taco by the way oh I'm gonna be the greatest a circle of all time I remember you had him i talked about you talking yeah they didn't have them a talking about I don't know what happened to those also you know what the New York does not have Oreo back me up i mean it's it's oh man what the hell all it is chocolate chip cookie ice cream sandwich individually packaged but I'm you know like the cookie flavors change and the ice cream flavors no like the best one in my pin is like chocolate chip and mint chocolate chip ice exactly how many do that made any areas yes why these I guess they don't expand outside of the bay area but man I've never seen a pleasure out here before I don't know that's you guys are blowing them on try that obviously haven't had one I've haven't looking crazy I would be on that room in a second yeah finally an email from Grants Pass from Jeff look at me doing the thing that they do are you pulling up a thing yeah just look at that let's order a bog yes maybe some covered in chocolate mmm yeah yeah every day victim who is not I'm just thinking a bacon ice cream and stuff right now Jeff from Grants Pass says you want a joker action figure with a replaceable hand i'll sell you this one for fifty percent less boom see what he's got the ok you put a joker face on top of a mr. Richard how quick was that quick quick quick fingers right yeah and is not a slideshow automatically advances so I guess so it's ok wasn't it um alright fifty percent less than what I don't know our buddy Jeff wants to sell me this mr. Potato Head with the Joker mask pasted on the front of them yeah gives you worse it could be a long way oh I'm coming from you could be much worse that's gonna do it for us today guys thank you for tuning into the fine program 866 404 cnet is the number to call or you can email us to 44 it's unicom record yourself in a video voicemail and send us the link the 404 it's unicom yeah again congratulations to our to contest winners if we don't hear back from them by oh the end of the day tomorrow well we'll go we'll dip back into the pond and get someone else to claim the prize all right because you don't want to give them more time to follow those really intense not all they're gonna do is email us in that and concerns about watching email you're in you're in so uh we'll be good to go stop flinging these balls um anything else we got to talk about uh go to the reddit page yeah I've been really active lately the 404 dot reddit com there you go and Jeff will respond to you also you got some na karma I got did someone sent me reddit gold so thank you so much I forget his name off the top of my head it was some weird handle but I sent you a little think you know thank you for that what is your handle on reddit Jeff ghost gotcha we'll see you guys tomorrow I'm Jeff Bakalar and I'm trusting you it's the 404 high-tech lowbrow have a great wednesday we'll see you tomorrow you
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