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it's Tuesday January 24 2012 thanks for tuning in to the 404 show on CNN TV I'm Jeff Bakalar I'm Wilson 10 I'm Justin you and this is the show where you are today's lucky winner that's right and tell them what they've won Justin you know we're not there yet we have won a great guest today we cannot be more excited to welcome Megan Scavo on the show today Megan you are the GM of the game developers conference and events thanks so much for taking the time being here on the show thanks for having me it's my pleasure it's our pleasure we were a big gaming show we talk about games all the time so your presence is super relevant around the corner the game developers conference is coming up in March that's uh March 5th through the 9th so uh a lot of people heading out to there I don't know I I'm not going to be there unfortunately which is a bummer and we talked about this before I'm so Megan's got a personal grudge she doesn't wanted and you have every right to be 19,000 people come to that show not you this is gonna be eighteen ninety-nine I said it's really upsetting but let's back it up a little yeah let's talk about what GDC actually is exactly a lot of people know III it's like the electronic entertainment expo that's the big one that's that's where they roll out all the major video games and you know they roll out the booth babes GDC is a bit more behind the scenes but its its stature is definitely starting to rise over the last couple years as you know the the tech that's involved in video games becomes more and more important so I hopefully haven't stolen all your thunder can you sort of explain to people who might not know a GCS yet well this were actually in our 26th year wow oh wow so we've been around for a really long time we started in someone's garage and it was called the gate the computer game developers com not the garage developers that G would have worked fine jeje know you're there when they were developing minesweeper is that what you're gonna say no come on I mean that's that's where we've evolved sure right and at some point right the i think it was about nineteen ninety-eight there were these consoles on the market and suddenly they've decided let's drop the computer and just make it that game the game companies gotcha um and we are you know it the name kind of speaks for itself sure for people who make video games it's really hard to explain what I do for a living to most people but you know it's nineteen thousand game developers from all parts of the industry all parts of the world who they're together every March and just talk about what they do right how to do it and it's the largest annual gathering of developers hands down uh and you know we're talking about this little before you know there are other spectacles around in the gaming industry GDC still sort of has that credit being the most sort of uh you know maybe the most integrity maybe the most sort of vital to that actual line of the gaming industry lash right it's not it's not a laser light show no I mean it's you know it's it's very technical it's a technical conference and we I think we've managed to survive so long and thrive and to continue to grow is because we have one focus and that is programming content for game developers and as long as we just follow that path I think we do really well tailoring to this day a little bit of background so like a lot of these developers and they spend all gear they spend millions of dollars developing these 3d graphics engines which essentially you know in this day and age is to make stuff explode look even cooler right so like is that you're really just dumb do we have one hour lectures that you talk about how to do that how to blow something up and make it look as the Michael Bay tutorial I'm not rifle so that you're hitting you know I mean they're toxic but but it's those little details like when someone you know like a character cocks a gun in a video game there's a lot of physics and animation and graphics that's involved now when that doesn't work it kind of ruins the gaming exposure for sure so so now I'm sorry you've been doing you've had this new GM title for how long now uh but I've been working with the director before that yeah correct uh so I mean you've you've been to a lot of these shows I want to get you know I wanna get like an idea like what you would call your your your highlight moment something I know last year was the 25th anniversary that was a super big deal for you personally do you have like a moment that you look back and you're like man that was crazy um my favorite moment yes surely meeting Miyamoto really yeah that's a huge deal for a huge deal and working with um I guess familiar with the mega64 guys know when I'm sorry with what mega 60 yes the-the-the make videos right yeah and they they've been doing videos for our the game developers choice awards ceremonies yeah and they really wanted Miyamoto to do a video with them and you know we worked really really hard to get an intended to do it but they wouldn't agree to it and still like that day oh really the mega64 guys shot at that afternoon and it aired that night and it was like one of the funniest things I've ever seen it wasn't so glum in Miyamoto pretending to like get really angry at them pretending to be Mario right he's a very interesting guy on he still sort of I I got to meet him once when we fit was coming out and it was sort of just like oh you know he's like oh you look overweight you should try and see if you can make well no it actually what that was through his translator he's like that says you're very fat kind of just like this oh my god oh that's a bad that's a bad hand gesture he was calling you overweight no but uh he's a very interesting guy and he still I just see a little kid in him all the time whenever whenever I see him so excited about maney still making games for sure still doing it alright so GDC 2012 coming up a couple of weeks what do you expect to be well what do you expect to be the the major themes or is mobile can be big is just shinier exploding your stuff funny my explode explosion you know we talked about whether we're gonna that what the themes are each year and its really GD c is such a broad view of the industry right it's hard to pinpoint a theme um but we definitely have some really cool mobile phones that we've got a whole smartphone and tablet summit two days dedicated to that for them you know Google is very active and you know I think Apple might actually be there this year but smartphone is kind of the exciting stuff right now we talk about trends are you know we always try and analyze the industry and see or try and predict the future although it's like the job the other man it's impossible Arbeit master in our Chairman goes what does megan think about the current sequel mania that is overtaking industry I mean you know resident evil 6 was just announced and that's not even a that's like the 14th game and I love those are people I know and I love resident evil I still don't think there'll be a game as good as resident evil 4 but that's my opinion aside I mean what do you think about this there are certain games that just you know have sequels maybe whether or not we want them they continue to come out it's almost mirrors the movie industry people keep buying they do stop buying these games are alternatives they're already at GDC there's a whole we have the independent games festival right and and two days dedicated indie game which is very important very important and we actually couple the independent games awards with our sort of triple-a award ceremony the game developers choice awards right and you get to see such a spectrum of video sure hmm that'd be you know you're plenty of alternatives arm what do you what do you think about uh you know the the media attention on GDC compared to what something like III gets and I and this will sort of lead into a conversation about what we were talking about before with uh with you know award shows and stuff like that but what you know where do you sort of see that because I think GDC uh you know maybe not might not be as out in the forefront as much which is understandable because it is for you know behind the scenes of is for developers are what is in so many ways that you can mark it like towards of course it's like you I'm sure it's not like ever walk around just you know uh programming it's it's it's it's meant for to act as a vessel for connections and stuff like that so but what do you think about that well I mean it's definitely hard to pitch GDC to suppress be right there's not a lot that that every audience is going to to read and seeing oh that's interesting sure but GDC offers a lot of very cool alternatives and like we have this thing called the game design challenge we've been doing it for many years and what we do is we get three developers and we give them a game concept and then they have like 15 minutes to pitch that concept to the audience and it's always these very interesting ideas one time it was like design a game based based on a Nobel Peace Prize and design a game based on an Emily Dickinson poem this year it's design a game that can be played in 10 seconds Wow okay and so they're all these restrictions and the things that come up that's amazing come with hermes I'm sure what I mean what's your opinion you talked a lot about smartphones and mobile mm uh you know to big frame works on like the iphone android corona and unity what's sort of really exciting about those from a programmers perspective is that you don't really need to be like a major programmer you don't have to went to school for years and studied all sorts of advanced geometries and things like that a lot of that stuff is baked in so it lets you know it opens the door for amateur developers for amateur game makers if you have an idea for you know like cut the rope and things like that or just really kind of very simple games when it comes to the engine behind it are we going to start to see a lot more of that a lot easier development tools at GDC coming up well Unity's got a full day of content that they're going to have yeah and Google's got a couple developer days there you know we focus we have a whole entire business track that kind of focuses on indie gamers indie game designers so yeah there's a lot of that a lot of people are sort of leaving their jobs and trying to make it on their own it's so much easier to get your game out there there's some you can get it on xbla put it on PlayStation right there are so many opportunities now I find that um you know you look at like what Apple's done with sort of making it very easy to make your own movie and now they're doing it with textbooks I still think that gaming as yet to break that barrier I mean obviously very cool very closely super close were on on the edge of that and and that's gonna happen for sure and your next year it's gonna be like I game like this Yeti is something that something's about it and that will be a very interesting time I want to talk with you about the whole award stuff because everyone who listens to the show knows how I feel about the spike video game awards which seems to be at of the current state of the industry the de facto sort of award show whether or not people in the industry agree with that is another story from my experience talking to fellow colleagues is up no they they don't really look at it with the highest regard and you look at what GDC is done with the game developers choice awards and that to me is the Oscars of the gaming industry to be totally honest i think that i would i would much rather want to go home with a GDC award then i would whatever it is like you know i don't know what it like a gold enjoys by india i guess the comparison might actually be more akin to like the technical Oscars like it no no I know about is something so because the the you know the way that the spike awards have been sore presented over the last couple years is a little bit of this you know fanfare I mean imagine going to the Oscars and seeing like just trailers and trailers trailers that sort of crazy yet here uh you know it's it feels much more um legit I mean and I thing I I mean we're coming up on the 12th annual one that's happening March 7th during the show you know I feel like that is something that really under the right circumstances could really turn into something even huger I mean where do you see that evolving too well it's an interesting question because we have you know we would love for it to be broadcast sure and we've spoken to people about it being broadcast but they really want it to change in order for that to happen because you have to sell advertising right and where it is right now we we won't change our format our format is we are celebrating our industry and we're doing that by having hosts that our game developers and we're giving me Awards to game developers and the games right we're identifying them by name like we're celebrating these people right and that just doesn't sell Eric that's just not sexy i yes well if you pop in maybe like a best explosion award or yeah well no but that's the whole point you don't do that and that's why it's good and we won't and we won't change and maybe eventually people will catch up and that's kind of what we're hoping but in the meantime the same way we've been doing GDC we're just going to go on our straight and narrow and do what we do and hope that people catch up if you see a lot of elements of the game industry in the movie industry slowly coalescing with each other obviously like the the movie industry borrows a lot of tech from you guys uh and then at the same time you guys are borrowing alias Hollywood talent I mean two weeks ago we had Eliza Dushku on the show and she was talking about voicing over video game characters so like there's a moment maybe in the near future where those two industry sort of combined and turning this huge just entertainment man the thing is you can't let the Oscar steal my watch don't steal to be like oh the best voiceover that's gonna be ours now ya can't let that happen you don't really focus on that sort of thing we focus on discipline forever ceremony so it's sort of best game design best audio best art direction things like that and I like this category like innovation I think that's really smart um you know and and I don't I don't want to like put you on the spot here a little bit and I know you can't pick a favorite game that just wouldn't be night and just like me I can't pick one even though seen it makes me do that every year you know I sort of have like a top ten right what what are you playing now what's what's gotten your attention lately I right now I'm busy with GDC so the only break i have so you're just not doin anything maybe you never done live yeah i'm a little obsessed with tiny tower right now okay Oh fair enough so I pretty much update that every day right what about last year like what was some games from from 2011 that really uh that really grabbed you oh well red dead redemption probably was the thing I spent most of my time okay all right you finally got around it did for sure for sure I really like the Zambia I was gonna just say like is there gonna be a zombie category like at the gd6 like a zombie I would because I would love that i don't think that would fall in line with the girl that's an idea yeah right I just hope we don't get into the whole vampire thing I can't play zombie games I'm actually terrified get scared really playing those games that seems like an actual work hazard for you i hate that everything there's a lot of zombie game yeah there's almost too many i think there are too many officially alright very cool what we're going to take a break we'll have a lot more to talk about with Megan when we come back stick around there is a lot more 404 coming your way we'll be right back this is the 404 mr f'ers the show where we all sing songs alright welcome back to the 404 just watch a very interesting video of a 3d printer we're all about these 3d printers lately it's just so interesting how many things they can actually we just watched a video of a 3d printed vinyl record I was playing the portal theme song yeah I guess you printed it using a pattern for the grooves and easy so slow it's amazing technology right have you seen this it's not right yeah never knew printers would grab headlines in the way that it's doing that's making your day crazy yes making your year technology is sick let's keeping you employed I just reviewed in the 80s now they coming back whatever you call this takes someone was asking me on a radio hit I was doing there like so why am i buying a 3d printer I'm like well if you run out of a doorstop if you are sorted over really like an extra chess piece a look at the whole collection you need you need to know if you need a house for your stick figure than absolutely yeah that's that's pretty funny um so you know like we said GDC is around the corner and megan wants us to let everyone know that games about our sister site is streaming some live stuff from the event so there's reaming the award show they're streaming both awards ceremonies were streaming the independent games festival award ceremony followed by the game developers choice awards ceremony which is hosted the share by Cliff Bleszinski cool cliffy B cliff getting in there he's not really quickly be anymore no he's sort of like I'm look he's like Puff Daddy has a look just call me Diddy net you just call me CB what is he was just clawed they has a full name was interesting I like that happens I like that he's growing up now he's growing up and you know he's one of the like the faces of the industry ready sort of uh got that important thing going on so yeah whatever you want to call wait what's the story on this user con so clicking we're gonna in trouble now oh is that his game he loved himself someone he however it I don't know the etymology but he you know evolved this nickname whether or not I don't think it was not my choice wasn't like Prince's that prince was like call me print right right being like hey call me beyond abusing himself does a grown man in his thirties like yeah he's not going to call me cliffy B I make video you know it didn't work like that not how uh but ya know that's really cool that he's hosting that and I think I'm actually gamespot is going to stream some some sessions too because we do these things called classic game postmortem okay where we look back at games over the last like 30 years sure they're designers come in and talk about what it was like to make doom you know or so I think they'll probably stream those as well very cool who also real quick before we get to the news I'd we didn't touch on this in the first segment I want to kotaku has named you one of the most important people in gaming yes and what I mean I mean that's a that's a big honor what uh would it would you have to say about that i'm i'm very curious as to what you know what your response to that is a reaction rather it's it I feel like it's less on me and more on GDC Oh pushing the pressure it's because GDC is such an important part of the year and part of our industry that you know I happen to be in charge of it well very cool and congrats on that thanks pretty awesome um let's get into some of the news topics of the day Megan's gonna discuss some of the stuff with us Wilson whoa what's been rockin you today well the speaking of like award shows sure the Oscars announced their their top picks for best films and it's like Hugo one Scorsese film picked up 11 Oscar nominations so this is uh I'm just finding about out about this morning looking this is a good you know sort of video game motion capture kind of thing that we can talk to Meghan about because Hugo is a 3d captured film right so they shot it with the 3d cameras uh they they motion captured ok so it's know if now I I don't know much about I know it takes place is this I'm not sure we were talking about at this point oh you guys just don't you can't figure it out we don't have Google yeah right anyway google that so would it tell me about the movie no it's about like this kid who liked works inside of a clock or something like that I don't know the details of it but apparently it's racking up nominations left and right i mean let's just look at the best picture best director um what else as they have they got I don't know but were they got they got 11 total I'm sure a lot of there are technical awards as well let's go over best picture because best picture always sort of rocks me and there's a few movies in here that kind of shine right there's nine there's nine uh let's go through the artist the descendants extremely loud and incredibly close the help Hugo Midnight in Paris Moneyball the tree of life and war horse Megan you were shaking your head yeah I don't remember what which 1i I didn't like extremely loud and incredibly close you didn't like that I've not seen it I've had widespread negative reviews about this movie yeah I don't know people just don't like it whether not worse no incredibly loud and solos that one uh would that's what Sandra Bullock and Tom Hanks it's about uh I've seen like posters of it I have no idea what it's about though it's just liked about the World Trade it's about a guy father dies in I I not 11 and uh you know he's his child sort of interacts with him with like clues that he leaves behind and sounds great in theory but apparently I've read a lot of reviews people do not like this movie I've not read it pleasant is this just like the obligatory tip of the hat to Tom Hanks I don't I don't know what I don't know I saw Midnight in Paris did you see my kid I really enjoyed that last I was a little shocked to see Best Picture nomination but I love Woody Allen I will do anything he says and if he it's been a long time for hands in a while on that point did you like match point you didn't like match point our friend Brian likes match point I like match funds agree you didn't like much point I didn't like that place interesting i remember the last one I actually liked but I was happy with this one I'm like ah he's back sure no that's awesome I mean he pops out a movie every year one of them is bound to stick right uh warhorse everyone knows that is I was a little shocked the tree of life uh that is up so that so in brip it was in that also right it's to brad pitt movies nominated money balls are like behind a lot of big films yeah any ball money ball one its usual the descendants i did not see the artist i heard the artist was a unique i do not see that yeah this is uh weird Jonah Hill yeah nominated Best Supporting Actor how about that uh Nick Nolte mm-hmm really sweet in the bottom of the barrel here this is got a Grace's best actor in a supporting role but what movie was knowlton Nick Nolte was in a movie called warrior I think that was about the MMA stuff right MMA I have no idea actually we just we have to be honest like movies this year as you can speak to this may be a little bit it's like movies just don't interest me anymore like and that's the way through the utmost awful thing you could say I have a degree in this stuff yeah and every time I walk past the movie poster I literally like a little part of me dies right that cuz I know I because in this is my thing I go to all them because movies now their titles are just what they're about yeah that's the problem Horrible Bosses bad teacher man on a ledge right there just right I mean they're just there's just no thought it's very insulting to be honest the way we the way we're perceived by movies dude but as a collective audience I really feel like they're just like oh just throw him in there like look at like ghost rider right wasn't that know who saw a ghost writer they're making another one coming up next month naked people I don't understand oh I don't know I know he was in a little financial trouble but oh my goodness it's the first year one of the first years at the major box-office receipts has declined significantly right well maybe harder than to actually just playing video games at home course I mean like you get you get 12 hours for 60 bucks playing a video game that you can replay again and again for half that yeah you can take a girl out for two hours right maybe maybe and that's if you don't eat anything you brief you go to like the 7-eleven before and stuff your pockets full of like you know gummy worms and I not spending that the reason why it's like Hollywood makes one of two films they either make huge huge blockbusters you've got to see in their full of all these amazing effects and 3d graphics flying all over the place or they make these like very let's not say low-end but like far cheaper films almost indie style where it's like very very cheap relative to Hollywood stock you know uh budgets like 10 15 20 million dollars and there's very little in between you and I feel like the blockbusters have been a huge disappointment over the last year yes yes and I used to love being action sure like i can watch independence day any day oh yeah uh watch that speech all day kidding Bill Pullman up there was bluffing there that would be like they're there hasn't been no no no it if you could almost see though like parts of the video game industry almost following that round obviously like you get like the the the st. the sequel itís or whatever you might call it like every year they know they can bank on this 500 million other person or be a movie right but the more superheroes are left but usually those games are pretty freaking awesome I mean and they deliver they definitely do the Transformers movie keep doing it for people i don't think so four hundred million dollars later apparently it did for a huge portion the population not me it didn't nine certainly not me yes like i would love to see giant robots fight each other but please put a little bit of intelligence in the story just like it's something credible you know the only franchise that seems to be delivering is Batman that's you know like Chris vernos oh man and it's going to be an end of july it's over what what in 2011 was there one film that you were like okay this i love other other than midnight in paris i liked bridesmaids yeah I did too i enjoyed that I thought it was funny it was a little down after a while maybe yeah I mean it really is getting bad and I don't know I didn't see Moneyball I didn't i've heard good snowballs about it did you see I saw it I do you think Jonah Hill deserved an Academy Award nomination I saw I don't know that's enough Jonah Hill didn't really say much in that movie had maybe four or five looks kinda nervous Oscar Ganesh's a 45 unload with her love I think that's what it was because he wasn't cracking jokes every fight was he still glad I think that was the surprise not that so there's no a skinny skinny I mean he was on his transition phase I think I'm very interested in that because to that battlefield early either some weird whenever I look at now right he doesn't look this doesn't look right extra skin you got used to seth rogen too after he lost them yeah but i don't think the change was his joy wasn't as easy he lost he probably lost an entire body that's amazing and look obviously it's great he's healthier now whatever it is but man oh man strange I'm a little surprised that grow the Dragon Tattoo didn't net more nominations ruin him out Rooney Mara for Best Actor because when the Academy does tend to shy away from remakes to you know it being a norwegian film right um and it was a huge surprise with martin scorsese won best of her departed in a party because that's based on the chinese film right um so i think that that's more academy politics than anything very interesting so we'll link to the award nominations in our rundown today you can check that out at the 404 dot cnet com let's uh let's get into one more story before we hit the brake Microsoft is uh choosing to discontinue microsoft points finally it's in an option for trash instead so now you won't have to break out the calculator every time you want to purchase microsoft points you can actually just say okay I want ten dollars with the points I mean it really is I don't buy a ton of stuff you know the xbox live arcade store right it really is every time you buy something it's like okay how much is 700 microsoft points yeah yeah you literally have to break out the calculor do you do like oh that was about eight bucks okay why can't you tell me in the first place here likewise it's very strange um but obviously Sony's been doing this since the get-go doing just straight up cash and I think this is smart I would imagine all your current points will just sort of automatically transition into cash or somehow they might charge you to do that as xbox live you can become a bank I don't know it may be a better interest in what I'm doing but uh yeah this is a smart idea and it seems like a logical evolution well I mean why do you think obviously the reason why they did in the first place was that confusion was so that you wouldn't think 800 points was ten dollars right um that little bit of math apparently is a is a big step for a lot of people I just felt like I was in why are they going back that's the big question because their xbox live our gay teens to be doing pretty well yeah I don't know do you have any insight on that why they would be doing that this is the first I've heard of it I don't know why they would do that but good for them I guess I always felt very you know cheap whenever I with the points thing it made me feel like um you know going back to like the arcades when you're like cash in your tickets you'd like oh I spent for 40 bucks playing skee-ball and I have a thousand tickets but it only gets me you know this parachute yeah there's a lot of content on yeah yeah sure so you know I think people are using it a lot more than they'd have in the past and then probably getting feedback you know hey this is a pain if there's one thing you could change well the whole point system sucks okay we're going to do that we'll take one last break and we'll finish up the show with Megan here on the 404 stick around we will be right back Oh and welcome back to the 404 Megan skyview's here today with us having a great time with Megan you're fine I don't think I'm ever gonna leave I you know what happens this is the thing once you're on and you have a somewhat decent time it means you are sealed by contract to come back whenever you're in town all right that's the my work here uh we have some other questions from our chat room that we want to relay to to Megan uh is I don't know who this person Oh Ellie says he wants to know about what your opinion is on the whole idea of hardcore gaming and handhelds we talk about this in our pre-show a little bit uh what's your take on it you know because obviously the Vita is what three weeks away that's right around the corner arm you know I'm sure there'll be a very legitimately sized portion of portable game developers at GDC where do you see the Vita coming in in this marketplace what do you think about the 3ds I I know it's a lot but what do you think yeah I mean I think I think there's something for everyone and they're always going to be someone who wants to play on a handheld like Odin actual handheld device sure like a Vita or PSP or IDs you know my mother has a d/s and loves it and spent hours on it that's always the the the you know indication okay man there is something here my dad place my dad plays of the ds2 only when he does something but you know it's it's it's it's interesting that he they pick up on that I mean it's all about it's all about expanding the market right and reaching other gamers sure and so there are always going to be people who want to play those games there but there are new audiences that want to play quicker or shorter easier games but so portable sure yeah i mean i don't know i'm always back and forth on this I like the my Vita I've been playing at a good amount but I don't find myself playing it outside of the house i got it made my ps3 you know and if i'm just sitting on the couch and I look up I'm like oh there's this huge screen TV but now I'm gonna go back and just really strain myself um what do you think about uh d and the 3ds I've always thought that 3d is a great platform for gaming but now with the Hannah what do you think about that well I mean there it's it's a little different 3d vs 3 the 3ds I think is super cool yeah I mean no glasses there there are definite games on there that that required that are fun right um 3d gaming with on a TV I don't really really I don't really want to play games with glasses I I'm surprised a bit about that because you know I I feel like the the thing that's wrong about 3d TVs is most people watch movies or TV shows and very like passive kind of way right whereas I gains by their nature active so like you you're thinking to yourself okay I have to pick up controller the idea of picking up a pair of glasses isn't really that far-fetched I find it distracting I am distracted I don't like 3d but I don't like 2d movies either I mean is it because you know gamer game developers really haven't found that magical way where that extra dimension really does add to the gameplay I don't think developers care about making games in 3d I think I think um I think they get told to hardware makers care about making games and dizzy but the developers do not because like there you would imagine I'm just speaking you know out of a possibility like things like they'll see how far your opponent is or you know peek around a corner or being really immersed in another world is exactly what you would want you know HD realistic like next-generation gaming to beat I mean cuz like it's at some point polygons or polygons that's that's great but like how do you bring it to the next sort of evolution of immersive gaming I don't maybe technology is still that that technology is still a few years away I feel immersed in it when I'm in the 3d yeah I there's something distracting I I tried playing killzone 3 3 night I sat down for like a half hour and yes the game was built from the ground up you could tell the production value was there it was intact on last minute and so you know it's it's a legitimately cool illusion but in terms of whether or not it added something that I wasn't getting playing it in 2d it did not see what I think is oh it's a like at what avatar did 3d was around for decades before avatar came out on what James Cameron did I think that was really sort of revolutionary breakthrough was he didn't make a movie the same way that you would make a 2d movie and a long long articles about how he framed how she created but he told the story that was where the innovation comes from and I'd like to see that happen you know with 3d games at some point I don't know if it'll happen did not like avatar I didn't you know it was really it was cool to look at me as far as entertainment right yeah I mean and and I know what you're saying listen I know you're saying like yes every effort was made to respect that the fact that the film would be shown wide in 3d up but you know I mean I've watched in 2d I don't think you lose anything really i guess i watch in 2d I'm it looks like a PlayStation game well it does anyway I mean I hope it look like a halo him as far as out there but yeah I think the guy with the mask I was like this this is cut out what is do am i watching a trailer uh but now I I think I don't think gaming really needs 3d like the movie theater industry needs 3d I don't even think the movie theater industry I think they need vacuum cleaners more than I do I wish it was a joke but the absolute truth yeah but uh but no I have to really I don't think while i do think gaming is the is the only platform or 3d really might catch on in terms of a mainstream thing where you know you know i always look back and say okay you're sitting on your couch it's time to play games I gotta put on these glasses I gotta do this idea uh I think games might be the only Avenue where it does work out in that regard but you know I don't think a developer like you said their primary concern priority is hey this thing's gotta look good 3d you know that's just not something i don't think any chair i'm saying to a lot of people get headaches from it i mean when i was i played a super stardust in 3d and i was playing wipeout in 3d wipeout in 3d I don't know how I wasn't just flopping around right yeah really bad and this is and yes talking about three this is a guy who got nauseous from watching like a hawk you man ngo 3d a documentary 30 is just like a safari / too much too much color yeah yeah so you know I don't know just I know you're not a big fan of 3drose a the other side of it is that when i watch 3d movies about halfway into it I just stopped paying attention to 3d and my mind just thinks it's a 2d movie I get the effect as right it's not as extreme agree with agree not to mention when you're the theater it's always darker whenever you put those glasses on things get darker right uh yeah III don't know we'll have to see where that evolves but uh yeah I I guess if there's one sort of preview that you could give for us the that maybe you know you clearly have your ear to the ground on what's going on with GDC 2012 is there something in particular you're excited about this year that we could sort of tease out for our listeners yeah there's a couple unannounced talks that um that I can't wait to and they will now I guess their remaining oh no no no no I can they're just not they're not up yet but we're definitely going to try to close out the show with the one-on-one conversation with notch from minecraft really yeah that's a very big deal baby marcus a huge deal antonio and he's not really a fan of getting on stage he doesn't like the dog he's very shy so we're gonna put him on stage with Chris Tucker who was a programmer on spore and he they're just gonna talk about Minecraft that is very cool I think it's gonna be pretty amazing absolutely uh yeah minecraft is something super ambitious that's caught on like wildfire it's insane the amount of attention this games getting so that's really cool that's that's a very very important of conversation I'm sure everyone is going to look forward to um alright very cool I'm super excited unfortunately we talked i'm not going to be a GDC hopefully next year yeah my live between you and me Megan I want to be there all right we gotta go to South by Southwest salsa but uh thank you so much for being here on our show guys please do us a favor and follow megan on twitter i want to talk to you about your twitter name real quick Megan PES are you into PES are you are you freak like me and like it like all about PES I have 500 plus PES oh where you been all my life I was like growing up in high school not to say that your current obsession is high school level I was obsessed with PES as well I don't know what is play them yeah I'd stopped i also have a lot of buffy action that's where you and I split ways oh that's right so yeah yeah yeah Eliza Dushku we had a better start on Buffy what is your most favorite pez dispenser if you had to save one burning firewood Yeah right oh gosh um okay five what am I just got the The Wizard of Oz oh that's cool that's the awesome there's also a lord of the rings do you keep them in the plastic or you take him out well it's funny you ask because like a couple weekends ago I spent a couple hours taking the model of the wrappers really because I had I just needed more stores you're hungry boy am I gonna do it it's gotta be old raspberries my favorite I will let you in on a little PEZ secret that candy never goes old they might be Rumble to a fine into a fine powder but it's fine aaliyah you just mix that in with some water and you got yourself in a tasty little treat thank you so much for being here as a pleasure Megan scoville don't forget follow her on Twitter that's 2 g's okay Megan PES with 2 g's all right give us a call 866 404 cnet we'll get to your calls later in the week if you want to email us that's fine the 404 @ cnet.com all right very exciting I'm trying to think if next week we have we do have you guess that will talk with Jill will be here next week and then we'll finish up the week uh Wednesday Thursday and Friday cool all right that's going to do it guys it's been a lot of fun thanks again to Megan will see you tomorrow I'm Jeff Bakalar I'm Wilson tang and I'm Justin you it's the 404 high-tech lowbrow big thanks once again to Megan scavi Oh GDC is coming up soon we will have coverage here on CNN and GameSpot make 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