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it's Tuesday februari 21st 2012 you've tuned into the 404 show on cnet I'm Jeff Bakalar I'm ty pendlebury and I'm Justin you and this is the show where it's the first day of the rest of our lives isn't it kind of my my my things have changed and you know what we're pushing forward yeah okay it's the first day I'm a little nervous are you really not at all okay good that's what I want to hear welcome to the show ty pendlebury get I our good buddy from down unda hey gown how are you man good yeah yeah I'm going right all right that's awesome also want to bring attention to our good buddy Richard Peterson switch on the ones and twos today how you doing Richard thanks for being here man appreciate that but really thank you ah so yeah it's a new show and I think we sort of owe this to our listeners to be a little transparent about what's happening to the 404 okay we're shutting it down to over this does blackberry catch it a go even tie was scared yeah should I leave uh yes so we're gonna be well we haven't really decided on who's gonna be the new replacement for Wilson yet because those are big shoes to fill right literally he wore big trees he was like a size 15 years ridiculous shoes around the office too disturbing but we haven't found a replacement yet but in the meantime we're gonna have a rotating guest a list of CNN employees which is kind of awesome yeah please I starting with Ty and ty you're gonna try and be here as much as you can maybe absolutely all right I just ask that was the first time I ask them that yeah um I guess for people that don't know ty I mean you've only better not show a few times can you tell the listeners what you do for seeing it so I actually review televisions and a bit of home theater and I actually sit right next to Jeff so it sort of looks like we're looking to a mirror the whole evil Jeff Beck thing yes look into the mirror and I'm all of a sudden speaking with an accent we do the whole room I reject don't touch each other though if you watch the universe will that's it at the end of the world as we know it for sure um so yeah Ty's been here how long you been at seen in at five months yesterday I think flies when you just hate in life I i I've got to experience my first York winter so nothing like a like a Sydney winter but I think quite mild this year don't be mistaken this winter was BS yes okay we had black four inches total of snow it's nonsense ya next year you're gonna freak out yeah i was telling Bridget Carey the same thing I'm like dude four feet of snow guarantee ya wena fainting it's been this it's been nothing like you days I think wasn't Halloween and then once in December that was it yeah it's 50 degrees today with the F man but you have like crazy winners down there or what I gets to a bell I can't do this celsius fahrenheit it's fine it's good but it doesn't nobody like today is probably a typical Sydney win today okay so so mild very mild yet huh and they complain you know Sydney people complain about what do they really they complain when they get with it because it's usually beautiful all the time they get weather clownin sits with again right when they're dead and everyone stays indoors yeah I'm serious oh that's what's happening 44 we're gonna have a lot of you know the rush tix of the world the Guttenberg czar the world everyone's gonna help us out and uh we will be having a permanent replacement maybe we should do maybe we should do will will be the next podcast I'd Ida let's do podcast Idol would you throw the voice she just ya llega like oh I love this guy I love the right person you tell it's a joke or we should touch people's laughs if they have a good laugh maybe they can replace Wilson and maybe resident giggly um yeah and it'll help if you're female yeah heared you're early at an advantage yeah yeah i mean in all seriousness though i think we were throwing that idea around I don't want to get it yeah we do on a few more let's not lie be great that's not lie all right let's let's get into our show today we got a lot to talk about this is cool i wanted to get to this last week in arizona all right there is a bill on the table that takes aim at airbrushed advertisements yes okay so any time off any time any time you see an ad every time every time yeah obviously it's photoshopped it's doctored up a little it but uh representative Katie Hobbs a Democrat from Phoenix she would like to require advertisers who alter or enhance a photo to put a disclaimer on that ad alerting customers that quote and this is like the line she wants at the bottom quote post production techniques were made to alter the appearance in this advertisement when using this product similar results may not be achieved it should just say will not be a cheat not that they may not be a cheap ready guess I was like a skincare product or make up some like that they want to basically say hey look this is you know Jennifer Lopez okay you're not you're never going to be Jennifer Lopez or anywhere and you don't have photoshop people helping you out every night bread so uh I don't know I actually talked about a story like this last year i remember it was for a covergirl ad in a magazine uh-huh and it was the national advertising division forced Procter & Gamble the guys who own uh that cosmetic company yeah to take down a mascara ad that said you would get two times more volume out of your eyelash mascara if you use them and when you use it you just weren't getting you yeah you clearly weren't getting two times the volume as much as what the advertisement showed so I knew I mean me personally I was not getting the volume on the silent yeah exactly make sense but then they put a disclaimer on the bottom that said it was fake that I think that was considered false advertisement because the result wasn't the same as well we're going to have to have these uh you know disclaimers at the end st. cankles anal leakage sharp depression suicidal thoughts right in your mascara that's what's gonna get to I think so I think you're absolutely right I think it's amazing that this stuff has been able to do these company been able to get away with this nonsense for so long let's get serious about it I play devil's advocate say that even if this law did pass which it never ever will I won't it i don't think anyone from Congress would ever sign on is there's a little disclaimer that says professional driver never attempt yeah okay when someone's going off-roading in their beetle right okay i think the same sort of logic applies yeah but does not have any danger as there is life threatening things like oh I beg to differ if you have that much confidence in yourself could find yourself can cause a needlestick injury to play someone right exactly you know I mean the goal though is to help uh like young women and young men with their self-esteem right this is boosting their confidence and giving them a bad body image but i don't think that mascara issues are the root of this problem if you get rid of magazine ads it's not gonna stop you know things like last week's New York Fashion Week of course not from doing runway models they did the same image right a young people you're right i don't know i don't think i'll make a difference I just I just am sick a Photoshop yeah I think that's what it boils down to it I'm sick of everything not looking how it looks in real life yeah and everything you look at in print on TV on billboards it's not reality it's simply not reality but we know that I know we as people who are being advertised as you know that it's not really right but and you're just okay with that you're never gonna be like damn the man let's burn this down I don't know I don't know if they're actually trying to push things at me particularly that require photoshopping and and I get like you know an unrealistic body image out of that you're right it's more it's it's primarily aimed at women I think we can all agree with that well we also wear makeup to on the show sometimes you're exempt from that like I ever heard of speaking of photoshopping though this story came out over the weekend I thought it was pretty funny um this part of the story is not funny Whitney Houston's funeral was a new work on I think saturday right and uh the Westboro Baptist Church was apparently there according to their twitter page and the daughter of pastor phelps margie phelps posted this image of um can we show this picture cuz i don't care like hey time it's okay everyone knows how ridiculous they are all right so they sent out this image that showed they're picketing signs that are you know pretty offensive and uh you know this was made to incite people's emotions and you know get their message across but it turns out according to the New Jersey star-ledger newspaper they confirmed that this was a doctored image they weren't actually there and almost there no no one was there from the Westboro Baptist Church and I was confirmed by other people that were at the funeral no one saw signs okay so had clearly photoshopped themselves into this picture so i gotta what's worse for you okay what's worse being a member of this bigoted disgusting neo Nazi scum bag organization uh-huh or being the dickhead that photo shops them into something like that like what's worse right well I think they did it internally right I think they have like a full team of like yeah of like talented Photoshop people well I mean if you look at this picture they're not exactly talented you like that's right it's like blow it up and looks pretty doctor I mean I jizz are blurred and yeah I think anyone with a keen eye for this kind of thing tell ya um but yeah I mean you're not doing anyone getting lazy right like they're just getting like I we could either spend hundreds of dollars on that plane ticket to Newark or we could just Photoshop ourselves into it what do you say outsource this hate yeah then go grab this out sourced hate is this one of the first televised funerals no new ok I'm coming from Australia which we don't televised court proceedings who don't televised funeral well rest to me isn't it that's a big Michael Jackson televised funeral really I definitely agree I agree with you it is it's messed up but that's what we do here we didn't stop because they had celebrity performers like r kelly saying naughty for the Bennett but not for like well okay I would really really be upset if they were like a lot of commercials and they sold the crap out of it but I don't think they do I think they just run it so slow tasteful for our block of just morning right which is whatever but uh that's what we do here man what else do you love about our fine nation ah the accents yeah isn't that messed up there you know it and and no one thinks twice about that yeah right do you think twice about what freakin can cost is a gravy boat you know boss thing you know look what was what was in a bath when she died that's really sort of upset black and morbid ya know what you couldn't avoid that no we dude we love that we gotta get and not get enough not again we got to know everything about it that's what we used in she belongs to the people or music the children are our future the children indeed all right well let's move on Jeff what what story is catching your eye here we could talk about any of these um this is really cool and something that I personally am and involved in researching myself and I had not come up with a way but apparently the fine crack team at seen at how to has already come over the way we're talking about how to send a self-destructing email message yeah now I feel like there's different kinds of ways to accomplish this but there is there any explosive involved in this regard as vampires you don't need a break your computer after not like up a timer goes off I come over your house with a sledgehammer yeah something like that right yeah this also doesn't involve you going over to their computer and breaking it either this is actually how to that Jason Cipriani from is it chip really I don't know he's new dude you tell him okay anyway so it's a how-to it talks about this website called one shot yes okay shares and it basically lets you send emails to colleagues that will self-destruct after the URL is clicked on just once so it's not really an email as such um it's a message we've held in another song right yeah which is kind of BS because once you see you could just cut and paste and then bam you got over a screenshot mean yeah exactly or I don't know remember it yeah sorry I like that use a pencil and write down whenever I go I get the gist of this is a statement okay yeah everything is basically able to be recorded now but this but you know this kind of takes away pretty gimmicky it's gimmicky I think the only good thing about it is that once it's you know once it's gone off the internet there is no legit documentation I feel like you know even if you cut and paste it it's like well you cut and paste that I don't take your word for ya yeah but it does sound pretty gimmicky it's I mean they're saying that it's good for if you want to send financial information now you know like your social security number or bank in phone you don't want that to be copied down like Jeff just said you could just simply write it down you could just simply remember it yeah boyo to stop drunk emailing I don't know if that's a thing just facebooking yes yeah but drunk emailing you'd have to remember the site URL and right right it's a whole process yeah let's be honest yeah so I mean you could use this if you really want to keep things private just say it stage whisper it yeah all right we'll take one break when we're done we'll be back with Ty and we'll get this more stories also we've got coals in our future and a lot more fun on the 404 so stick around we will be right back this is the 404 Mr effers the show where we all sing Oh you welcome back to the 404 haven't had a good laugh like that I knew that you of all people Jeff would love that yeah you're so relieved what's the hell was this jump at the show so you do not know about stuff like that well you know it's some sort of weird baptist church right yeah yeah like evangelical they you know they flop around on the floor and right who stuff so the shining sea matar of wool yeah it's all good people out of them i watch religulous for the first time yeah yeah it's quite uh i get i have a problem with i'm not really just myself but i have a problem with people like Richard Dawkins and Bill whatever his name is Bill Maher bill maher taking the opposite you know your your side is wrong yeah right I'm with you yeah I think um yeah i i'm i'm in that vein idea I just we can't get too much into it but yeah being preachy on either side it really puts people bill maher was attacking innocent people he wasn't attacking people like we just saw in the video that were evangelical is like clearly full of crap well i mean you can't say that a key like I don't you get all the same I know Bono's being kind of mean about it yeah but you know what sometimes you gotta be a little mean I don't know yeah i'm not totally against it but i understand everyone's point of view on the subject yeah um all right let's uh let's get back into these stories it really quick I I want to ask you about this because now they're on the show I saw this video the other day you post a review of the sony h MZ t wanting can we put this up on the screen everyone should go and watch the video associated with the review so awesome it's hilarious and can you tell us a little bit about this is like a heads-up display that you can watch TV with in these goggles but you can explain about these things have been around for a long time yeah and i sort of drew a parallel to not in the video but in the review itself to the virtual reality headsets near 90 s right I so I don't know why we need these things I guess you know the whole holiday thing you know it's real it's not real it's it's virtual reality so essentially what these are is to oled displays at 720p resolution so what I guess what the really good thing about it is is that you can see 3d without any crosstalk so that's that's not seeing any of that sort of weird ghosting effect between the images right which really puts you off when you watch things like modern lcds or assurance plasma displays so these are really good at doing that not very good at the focus because they've got these weird sort of like I guess lenses in them yeah they had to move so all of the outside of the display was all blurry gotcha so wasn't good for watching movies but 3d games awesome they were also and I never meaning to try it out and I just can't find 20 minutes to get out in the back there and do it but um I still though for gaming I know you told me you said it was uh it was heavy the apparatus is yeah so like half a kilo I don't know what that is in like pounds yeah I always seventh on something I survived a three tons are ya um but you know something specially something like gaming where you want to be sitting down for a long hours yeah I'm after an at three hours it actually turns itself off really yes so will matter what break yeah no matter yeah you can turn that option off right uh yeah it just turns off right 30 and then before you realize it you cannot do anything but look at the ground cuz your heads just waved down rolling around yeah so you need some sort of scaffolding type structure to hold it on like maybe some sort of minocqua corn yeah I depends on your head what about one of those like halo things that people wear when they miss their neck up real bad all right right now my neck brace yeah like let's be honest you're putting this ridiculous science fiction prop on your head as it is it weighs too much why don't get why don't you give it like a shoulder-mounted sort of thing you know you left though but that's probably travel pillows yeah exactly it's probably the smarter way to go about it this isn't meant for you to actually walk around not only wait and that's a stupid thing like it should be used on the train or on a plane right and the funny thing is that the only thing that could recommend it for apparently this is like an insider yeah said it's really good for porn oh my god yeah that was someone at sony apparently allegedly said this it's really good for porn tell you that's not know I did I've it's only third you need for research on the court of law rewrite in the court of scene at law but yeah watching porn in this I mean it's pretty honey it doesn't it display to you on like a giant movie theater style screening much yeah must be I'm just thinking about scary how dangerous that would be watching porn but yet you mom's place or something yes like being you know the end in you're blindfolded and right i think it's just you're playing a dangerous game I you know it's like pin the tail on the donkey but not that kind of game that you mean it's just yeah it's doogie it's okay yeah but wait I don't think what Justin was alluding to before is that we actually tried to use it in a public situation nobody porn I'll sure say yeah but Richard was actually there with me shooting it so we went down to into the subway and I had like a headset thing no he said you're like going through the subway turnstile and yeah it looks on people's faces as you're pretty good you're like walking through like bumping into walls and people look horrified they should at least be able to have an option where you just like flick a switch and then BAM you just see through actually sit under it all the others yet okay that's that's you know that's that sounds safe you should be doing you should drive with this thing is basically what we're trying to say or be cool that had an embedded camera or something that would display you know a 360 view around you right in the screen is just like a little lag yeah they should you they should invent that technology for like people who drive tanks and stuff like Google apparently you've got a heads-up display technology coming oh that's right yes so maybe they're talking about something like that I mean it just seems like it's such a waste to just I don't know Sony does this all the time they'll invent something that's like sort of cool and then just be like here yeah use this yeah like what am i why well how much is it I think it was I can't remember if it was like seven hundred bucks seven hundred bucks ok just a lot of money I'll just buy now is there a way to somehow equate it to a precise like screen size apparently it's a hundred inches at six or seven feet ok so it's equivalent to like a 42 inch at about three or four feet oh wow that's whatever has none don't sit so close to the team guys gonna fry your brain in fact you know what Sony suggesting you wear it on your face I don't know man I just don't know what to try this do you still have it in the last still got it yeah bring it in you should have figure out so that s at that point thing I just want to play games on is good for that too um that's this is ridiculous tell tell us Justin there's a new phobia that's come into popular discussion your greatest nomophobia nomophobia do you know where that came from I can just I'm trying to break it there and be without a cell phone and I forget what the linguistic tool it's called but it stands for no mobile yeah which doesn't make no but no mobile phone iya fonia yeah or that which does it make sense because it's presumably English or Australian because we call mobile phones not self it's a contradict yeah only in America though could you ever have this sort of phobia I feel Lysa's but people do freak out when they don't have their phones with them yeah but do they freak out the same way that someone who's claustrophobic feels if they you know the fear you know you know I'll see it's something times that they're not there the fear isn't that they're gonna be an emergency situation will need a phone and they don't have one yeah I think their fear is like a fear of missing out like a fear missing out on like what's going on facebook or things that they can access on their phone right you know it's more i'm pretty sure it's more of a social fear but in a physical one and I don't know man I think it doesn't deserve the phobia Suffolk no no well it you gotta take it with a grain of salt cuz this came from it's kind of like a marketing sure I gave him a survey I get a cure envoy I get that they're saying that they surveyed a thousand people in the UK so not a big sample size sixty-six percent of those thousand people said that they have a fear of being without their phone seventy percent of female respondents have that fear compared to only 61 percent of males yeah what that mean I mean I have it's sort of ridiculous because it's the same fear of like losing your car keys or something like that these you just need well you know you guys I'm sure have left your phone at home in the morning we're going and it feels weird but I always say that I'm scared yeah I'm not gonna cry over it are they scared of losing it living at home or scared when they have lifted home it seems like a nebulous type of fear completely is yeah it's a fear of being without their phones in general and 1000 so you gotta read don't think about not having your phone with you really yeah that's the time except when you don't have your phone with you yeah exactly like the weird thing do you guys do this I know Justin you don't really drink a lot hi you know you're trying to help me is like all right no I drink you're fine i have had drinks yes yeah wake up on a Sunday or a Saturday and like the first thing you do is you're like oh well where's my phone everywhere you looked my front doors got a weird lock on it so I do worried that I've left my keys in the front door that's a that's a problem yeah that's a well it shouldn't happen but my otha when I wake up I'm always I'm like crap where's my phone yeah I don't even care about my wallet where's my phone I don't know where it is and it's always in someone's jacket pocket or stay someone else's there's like someone is in like it's in a jacket pocket somewhere it's in Stacy's purse like behind so I can't stand that and I I wish I know Bureau just call it but there's I don't know man that's like cuz then if you don't have a phone putting hackney right what do you do in the depends i mean because it's 14 android isn't there so like a fine my phone type yes low yeah yeah something there is one for I from which I have and yeah that's actually quite useful you use that a couple of times can you or is the weirdest place you've left your phone I i mean i know mine right away i'll go for it yeah my the freezer what yeah i lost c'mon like finding a sock in the refrigerator that's like the no adage no need I don't know what it was I and this is recent to it was a FreshDirect was delivering huh so the first thing that I must have been on the phone when they came to the door I know what happened and the first thing flex yeah and the first thing maybe the first thing was uh you know the ice they give you ice cream anything that needs to be frozen it's in a plastic bag and they put that out because they're like all right to the freezer with this right and at some point during the exchange I must have just you know saved it a trip they went right into the freezer yeah I didn't know about it for like an hour if it was fine but I know why he did it why stop people called calling you he loves it feeling itself I love it that was it go to another uncle humor I did have a fun it was like you know the Murder on the Orient Express I had a phone stolen from me on a plane no way yeah like while you mid-flight actually when we landed I took my phone out turned it on and must have stuck it on the seat next to me yeah and someone's reach beyond are you sure yes you're just going through the crevices now it's gone see when something like that happens you I say you tell the flight attendant right and be like look I tell me when I was gonna find it yeah like I literally started filtering off us like madly goes a lot for listen up applying I would have blocked the eggs yeah good night no one's league one of you a-holes has my drip search all of you you know II can i call it and it rings in someone's banging it'll be awesome yeah you know beat them up right then in there what is this yours guess not yeah what I've been seeing a lot of people this is I hate watching this I saw it twice over the weekend people leave their phones on their lap when they're driving and when they exit the door they get out and forget that it was on there Oh makes the worst sound in the world as it cracks on the concrete you guys seen that before like taxicabs and well it's oh I hate watching them yeah it's kind of a bummer meaningful and kind of funny the same day of course especially if they're driving with it I can't tell you how many times I see these you know people there walk they're driving through hoboken and all they're doing is just on the phone and they're only looking one way because traffic cannot come more than one ways but guess what people can yeah yeah human beings are a lot more you know prone to injury then a car right car and they're just looking the other way and they go and man oh man it's so many close calls and I just you know give him a little elbow to the hood gimel intent one somehow don't do that but if not should guys that was alive boxing on there yeah the ban we'll take one more break when we get back some calls and we'll finish thing up things up here on Tuesday with Thai stick around for four continues right after this you alright welcome back speak of the devil you lock justice yeah he did that with lock how real i ike i was out there like he might've i mean you could do it so we just watched a video of a cyclist that got cut off by car the car came pretty close to him almost knocked him off the bike to retaliate cyclist road next to him knocked off the side view mirror yeah a little in a little much i could understand if he did get hit and injured right but he came close enough no not justified I don't like road rage as a cyclist myself and recycle Justin huh I I don't tolerate that when when cyclists yeah become assholes on you know why it gives a bad name to all cyclists oh god knows what that drivers gonna do to the next innocent writer he's right you know you know it's is it people with fold up bikes and the the hive is sweaters look ridiculous please leave these people a little flag yeah you have people with flags here don't know yeah yeah we have like people with reflectors on the flag that kinda makes sure that drivers can see him yeah not me though um yeah let's talk about real quick with would youwould zid this is funny because I didn't know this and it just sort of went over my head so the little 3d visor we're just talking in the break the 3d visor that I reviewed I in Australia I would call it the H what was it I think I should've remembered MZ t 1 is when HD zt1 you can also address how you say HH so okay you're giving the it's got 2 h's in it so what makes the sound of the notes on the mat appear that's like a TCH e you like that eh hanging em said it said instead of the Z which I think they brought up that leg zeds dead babies it's dead right that design makes no sense to me either ball from pulp fiction okay is it dead there so said is how you you you say the word the letter Z yep yep can you you wanna fix that for me was that you know like when you're in the military you go like uh Hector Mary zed is it something like that up a person Zipporah yes gotta be you always sad frizzy oh yeah absolutely okay I master anything yeah yeah but what I find really funny is the way that Americans are pronounced letters like CES or it's that really like in Australia would say see yes yes or no yes what's really funny is the HT what is it the HTC 3g LTE it's really really robotic how do you want to say all right so yeah thing well yeah yeah yeah botón otra delegated 30 of are you buggin is that how bogan says i buggin bet I HTC I like tht CEO g3t I don't know yeah that's a lot of letters yeah that's pretty silly and I'm in you know as we all are in in some of these product names of quite long oh you have lots of letters in them especially televisions I think televisions yeah is up but they like phone numbers don't you think don't you think it's time for these guys to get together and just do even though it is ridiculous how cell phones are all have these silly names in maybe it start this it's time to start doing that with televisions is the Greg Belial just call it all the body you get a new ship I know that naming them people but you know these abstract sort of like right you know yes I fire exactly I know asian miss it's lame but at the same time it's not gxp 915 functional t like with uh android operating systems they all go alphabetically so you know web chronological order they came out in like that you know it serves a different purpose aside from having a cell I but either way lady should have that it's time to start you know reexamining nomenclature for ya especially with Sony against they've only got about 10 models towards ya so they could call each one you know the the Sapphire the McGarry the knee the knee so Nene know that doesn't mix not they'd have to reach out yeah that vizio could do that maybe y SE I'm just taking a quick look at the cnet top HD TVs and look at these is like pro x5 um yeah yeah p ND 8000 series you know it's ridiculous it is and they have sub names for the different screen sizes right yeah it's got a 46 in over the worst is you're on the phone with you know customer service okay sir what kind of what's the model number your TV hold on and let me reach around this guide in the paper like oh no I have the Panasonic you know you know 55 LW 9800 that's a real LG TV that's a joke it's crazy let's too many too many many planning problem I guess it's a simple fix though alright calls from all the time time to show the love 86 404 so as everyone's now aware Wilson is no longer with us he's alive you're like he's just not on he's not a senior yeah he left just want to make that very clear uh so apparently people are we getting on still a lot of calls even though he's gone we can't really sort of weird if we play them now yeah you know if they're like goodbye calls he's gone right that needs there's no way he's gonna listen to this show after he left next ship is sailing here ah but there is something to address in terms of maybe what he's uh he's left behind hey jeff its joey from nevada calling wondering maybe it's too late but possibly Wilson left behind some artifacts that might be worth giving to the 404 fans like perhaps some business cards or beer cans an eating chicken feet chicken pocket-lint or pictures of sign pictures of Steve Jobs you can give me that i'm pretty sure you wouldn't leave that behind but everything else may it's a specific laundry list wasn't it yeah it's very specific what else do you know about him ah no i don't i haven't been in his office yet yeah i'm actually trying to steal oh yeah right you can't get in because of all the chicken feet yeah that matter floor all I went into Wilson's office after he left for the day on Friday yeah and it just looked cleaner in Richard you can back me up on this because you actually work in the same areas handle full of stuff is a little cube looks now like it should have looked the entire time you worked here yeah it just clean up the mess and so I don't know who's all that stuff is but someone needs to clean that up yeah I mean let's get on that yeah maybe I don't know you move into that office or what did you think I know I think mark might okay may the best man win i was gonna say i'd have to fistfight mark for it but we know who would win that fight yes me nam kid haha man it wouldn't even be a confident decimate you they would just literally ripped me in half yeah straight down the dust would look like some fatality from mortal game um all right next next call and maybe uh ty can help us decipher this hateful for this is nice and calling from Australia I was just going to see if you guys picked up a new mountain lion advert that Apple released that if you look closely there's only one appearance of a macbook pro and yet 27 appearances of the macbook air what do you think this is saying about a future of laptop lines anyway I'm sure yeah whatever you say time ah well we don't have an outline so don't know what he was so we don't actually have any sort of indigenous cats left we killed them all yeah yeah the last one dated like 1926 good riddance so what's it like having dizziness cats we do i what is that an apple yeah oh yeah did you not hear what he said no no I did I did all right and so I just I just look good so come in guys on the whole day line thing okay totally got side tracked every second if you want to talk about cat said I was a show you just things go on for days it was a mountain lions are the same thing a perfumer you say pew matuma what what is it Puma Puma Puma Puma like the shoe brand like poo in it he has numerous tumor a puma I like the Australian I do drink an American accent that's a wisdom of a man the speed of a puma I like that I like that napoleon dynamite okay so yeah um that's what he's talking about he's talking about he was talking about the commercial that they came out for mountain lion right and he's saying that they showed a lot more macbook air laptops and they did was it just the actual pro for showing the actual pro yeah which is what is shootings they're talking about getting rid of the pro anyway yeah maybe that's why this in phase that out i think uh i think the writing's on the wall i think if you if you really really think about it and just look at that the whole cold hard facts of performance and what these benchmarking results are when you compare the top of the line prone top of line air right there's there's the negligible difference I think arm I think they are on their way out I don't think a CD drive a DVD drive even a blu-ray drive is as attractive to them to the average you know consumer right as it used to be I think that those users would prefer more USB ports than any of those you know just give them a few more though I agree to I think the air needs a few more in those I also think the air uh could use you know I guess I well you know what I'm if you take away the actual moving disk drive right and you pop in that SSD you're getting an incredible speed boost when you do stuff like that so figure out a way to make that more affordable because I feel like that's the one thing that's making the air just too much money where I would love to get one but they're just too much you know I want to get a top of the line one and once you break past that entry level one you're spending a lot of money yeah so for me I want you know I want that terabyte SSD drives G drives are coming down though or even two years ago Intel came out with the first laptop SSD and we tested it here at cnet it was six hundred dollars and it was 12 giggles some yeah i think it was like three or four games which is nothing for a laptop you need way more than that so i think you're gonna probably see them go down all right well I'll take your word for it also tie to get off the subject really quick uh chat rooms asking you to say jaguar jaguar oh well that's easy having fun no weirder know like Jaguar look at the freeway what did I hear you say the Fosters commercial this morning and then you also dropped it put another shrimp on the barbie you did man we don't say shrimp in Australia is Nathan yeah Acme up we didn't say shrimp we say what we even say prawns prawns prawn you Nathan this my mate from Australia who just called oh okay yeah you'll back me up I did that this morning that he does had headphones on I listen to music and then all of a sudden Tyson 40 miles of streams on the Bob I yeah sick I never heard anyone from Austria oh no don't we don't say that what do you think wouldn't crack open a fosters and put a shrimp on the ballet ah that's not annoying no one drinks no no on the British back packets drink Falls yeah McCann it can't be involved with those type of no no absolutely all right well ty thanks so much for being here man always a pleasure I'm sure we'll have you on our much more often now that you'll help hopefully help us fill that bring the Australian perspective yeah we're learning a lot of stuff today it's good stuff geez goes thanks guys we'll be back tomorrow I believe mark let's say yeah I'll be a while he hasn't been on in months 866 44 cnet's the number to call if you want to email us that's okay the 404 at cnet com check out the blog and links to the 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