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thanks for tuning in to this very special Yuletide 2012 episode of the 404 show I'm Jeff Bakalar I'm Justin you I'm Zack Weinberg and I mariela nunez today ladies and gentleman we're going to be recapping the year of 2012 in entertainment in TV in movies and in people speaking of people that we like 44 was graced in 2012 with a brand new guests that we seem to enjoy we seem to thank you Zack Weinberg has become quite the part of the four hole we love them for that as if we needed another Jewish looking guy on the program Jewish Italian really good looking yeah thank you know what you will call it what you will what you will you've you've made a splash on the 404 this year and people seem to like you for reasons unknown I don't get it I don't get it either but today you're gonna help us recap the year in movies and TV and other miscellaneous entertainment sure 2012 was I think 20 and I'm just going to say this off out of the gate I think 2012 was the best year for movies hmm and a decade in a decade yeah I mean think about it you you know from the beginning and especially as Oscar season heated up from the summer all the way in to where we are now in the end of December well right now i'm excited for a bunch of movies that are that are coming out I think this December has been huge i rarely i'm on a movie snob but and I rarely go out of my way to make a list of movies I want but I've started doing that and I know movies are good when I'm going out of my way as not a huge movie fan with a big enough movie fan to actually make a list of movies that I want to say right um and there's a bunch of coming out in December some have already come out but I mean everything from from Lincoln to django unchained which everybody's going nuts over Quentin Tarantino's new film is coming out Christmas Day have you hurt you the reviews were ever you have already people are we going nuts over Django Unchained yeah um the the zero dark thirty movie about the raid on Osama bin Laden which is too soon which too soon hahaha to see the UM Bigelow who directed Bigelow I forget her first Oh Kat her from her locker ok she's directing this film so people are expecting that to be huge but yeah this December great gatsby just coming out and people are raving about that Les Miserables less miserable you dummy what what is it love less miserable it's less miserable A's oh it's less miserable the hobbit lame is your time I lame is the hobbit man the hobbit we're not so much what do you think about the hobbit I haven't seen it yet not really desire to but now that I'm looking at the cover for this this is actually what the cover of The Hobbit looked like it looks ridiculous wow that's a lot there's more facial hair and beards there than and then a Friday night dance party in williamsburg poster look at look at this guy what can you explain something to me hobbits Justin yeah I've never seen any of the Lord pride in it wow so is this is this in addition to know this is a very cool yeah so it all started it's it's it's the forging of the ring right yeah yeah I don't know if it's the actual forging of it but it's the introduction of the ring and it talks about you know what happened to the global goal goes and gets the ring you meet I would assume I didn't gonna say read the hobbit I don't remember like yeah is this where Smeagol turns into Smeagol yeah yeah you hear about that Jared for the ring you want to change how the ring comes about so don't wait so you've seen all the Lord of the Rings creatures ok alright so but so the neither of you have interest in seeing I mean yeah I see it but the big thing is it that it's in is the new 3d technology 48 frames per second but I don't I mean I I don't want to see it as badly as I wanted to see Lord of the Rings don't you feel obligated at this point you that's the jugglers time to see a series that but the thing you know it's going to be two hundred and eighty-seven minutes you know it's going to be this like really drawn out thing but it'll probably be excellent you're knee-deep in this whole franchise to begin with might as well just finish it out too much time invested just quit now the 48 frames-per-second thing does sound kind of cool those reading a lot about it I guess people getting nauseous from see it's becoming a lot of stuff but also i read basler done i read that in the movie looks a lot more fake yeah because uh you know like with the quality being so good 48 frames it looks like the swords that they're carrying a little bit too light they look unrealistic the lightsabers yeah exactly the thing is what people don't realize and I think they do but i think they sort of forgo that it happens with television as well when you get to those tvs that do the artificial framerate enhancement like the hundred twenty Hertz is any I don't want to interrupt is that the what I what I will is that the whole soap opera effect that people talk about where soap i watch a show when it looks like a movie you watch it and it looks like you're like this is weird get then and I can't watch these own the way it works is it's basically inserting frames where the source material didn't contain them so if you're watching a 30 frames per second movie which is how i'm sorry 24 frames per second which is how film is shot uh this is basically bumping it up to an artificial 60 frames per second which is uh the best thing like the best analogy that that people might be able to understand is a game like call anyone who plays call of duty those games look ultra smooth because they run at 60 frames per second most games run at 30 film a shot at 24 frames per second video can be up to 60 frames per second so it has this artificial sort of what is hamid NGO so that's 48 because that's a whole thing with 3d in that and 24 frames per I yeah without getting too technical the end result is this weird-looking sort of showing the thing is with the hobbit though the hobbit it all the source material was shot at this accelerated frames per second when you look at a TV or something that when you see like a film brought up to 120 Hertz it just looks artificial yeah just to reel to reel like it's just not there it's very unnatural you know things seem to look too smooth you know one that's and that's when it gets weird yeah as long as I don't have to pay extra money to get the 48 frames give me a yet you know whether I can only process so many yeah I don't know what the threshold is but the hobbit I do want to see it um but look let's look back yeah on 2012 okay you got the dark knight rises hmm let's not forget about that epic movie you got the Avengers you got our go remember our grease into our got Erica life of pi people are really enjoying that Lincoln seven psychopaths wreck-it Ralph Skyfall Moonrise Kingdom all right looper people forget about looper bruiser a lot of people really enjoyed looper um I we just talked about moonrise kingdom I really enjoyed I enjoyed that I hope it does well come Oscar time you got Ted don't forget about ten toes good uh was the hunger games this year yeah it was the beginning of this year and Prometheus was as well Hunger Games beyond the best movies of twenty twelve minutes anyway even if it was people really liked it yeah it was okay like the book I didn't dislike it I thought it was good i thought it was a good adaptation um Zack I saw on your list and took a peek before the shows yeah that jiro Dreams of Sushi is a standout hit that's my time I list you gotta think netflix for that right i don't i show you a feeder oh you did I live right I'm Audi uh well you bring sushi into the theater huge loser no that's like bringing a tuna fish sandwich onto the subway no I I live right near Beekman theater okay near 66 street and they always they only show to Thea movies at a time but they're always showing off be you know somewhat indie films and there you and they usually show them a couple of weeks before they they come out to the general public and I saw that I was bored one day I remember was the beginning of the year and this movie jiro Dreams of Sushi i watch the trailer about it and I'm a big sushi fan I love sushi I'll eat a few times a week and I never even heard of this guy or the restaurant but apparently it is known as being the greatest sushi restaurant in the world and it's in japan right outside of a subway station and Jiro is this crazy sushi chef that's 80 in his 80s and he's been doing this his entire life and it's an art form to only 10 people can sit in the restaurant at a time you have to make reservations months years in advance it's almost impossible to get and there is no menu he just brings out whatever he wants and just the whole I highly recommend the movie it's just it's crazy because he gets so obsessed over this mood you can't believe there's a whole story in history behind it it was one of the best films of the year the attention to detail in that movie was what impressed me the most we talked about how his 60-year old assistance which is really going to be here offenses that are 60 years old that are massaging the rice for an hour after yeah who would have thought that just making rice and the way that you make it's crazy you know if forget about going to Harvard for your MBA you you've gotta study under 0 for four and a half years just to learn how to make rice probably yeah but the outcome of it is just the most superb apparent I have no idea i've never been this the most it's and the most unbelievable experience you will ever have right as far as consuming a certain food is concerned it really after watching that movie kind of ruins sushi for you because you kind of don't want to eat susan anywhere i'm never gonna have as good as an experience or so he or so it seems like they're close yeah a lot of people like the raid the rate oh is that the i saw the trailer fan I never saw that the one with the building where they have to go up and he'll everyone a lot of people really dug that a lot of people dug sessions a lot of people dug the master with the film happen inspired by the whole Scientology thing then you gotta be they didn't say it was directly based on it is everybody Gary obviously a people were upset Tom Cruise apparently watched the movie got a private screening months before it came out yeah and it completely God went ballistic on the director we thought it was for a his angel wings just can't you just be just uh upcoming oh this is 40 is coming out i think that's good i'm looking forward to stuff like no you don't that's okay yeah i'll go see it i want to ask you guys uh looking back to the past again did you guys see marley the two and a half hour documentary about me did you hear about it yeah it is really yeah i heard it was really good to punch my friend saw it none of them remembered actually seen the movie mr. video is pretty good it's on netflix right now it's more that's right that damn Marley I got a recommendation where people probably didn't see this film Bernie burn oh right if we talk it'll actually recommend that one to Jack Black an excellent little indie feeling sort of movie yeah I would check that out if I were you too that's that's not what the list I got four movies though but real I mean I could you know 365 days ago when we were talking about the films of 2011 we were like why did they even bother talk about a night and day difference year-over-year in the quality of films it made this year made me a believer yeah it made me a believer in that there are some original ideas out there and you know it's not all lost yeah so I think this year was an unbelievably successful year for film even though no one went out to the movie theatres and went to the theaters not it's the the box on the in terms like the box office but you did have two films that almost did 200 million in a weekend this year which is a big deal The Avengers in Dark Knight mm-hmm um all right let's switch gears you have you have your worst movies i've got my 50 films when i get my knives that made a couple list for things so let's hear your best and worst I so will do will do best yeah the best I do want to hear your worse to know we're a cynical or a cynical group you sure so we will start with the good stuff and that will end a bad note of course when we when we do the list all right so for my five best films of 2012 all right number five Dark Knight okay number four Ted really yeah I like you gotta see hell what with all the other it's just the the the poop jokes and I'm to me that I mean and it was good it was done well McFarland knew what he was doing MacFarlane Seth MacFarlane and the bear was hilarious it's the sort of movie that you sit around on the couch in like that you should make a movie like this when you and your buddies are just sitting around doing nothing and they find your way to nothing and I finally did it doing nothing those are the doing nothing ya know you're just doing doing you're doing nothing anyway number three number three I have Lincoln he said it was unbelievable you know what like i didn't understand most of the dialogue because i don't have a law degree where a lot of people are saying you have to be smart and I'm sorry bro I'm not smart but the whole the whole Daniel day-lewis just brings you into this world by his acting is just remarkable so Lincoln just it was it was phenomenal okay um my number two movie jiro Dreams of Sushi speculation you gotta go see it yeah if you like sushi or you just appreciate detail or somebody that's so passionate about something just go see the movie right I mean my number one movie of the year was moonrise kingdom nice by what Cyrus tell that it was awesome it really was excellent it was light it was simple dialogue was good the cameos were good it was just an entertaining young love story that just goes oh right he's just there's you guys can never make fun of hipsters ever again what you're saying that you love that movie is like the hipster movie a versatile first week Amy Boy Scout uniforms is like the most popular Halloween thoughts with Williamsburg Wes Anderson yeah started that he's starting today so he is super hip it's super hip but it had a record players in the movie talk about hipsters before the show today such hypocrites but I understand your it's a weird sort of defensive I'm just saying you guys shouldn't talk crap on history oh no we most certainly should i bring it on pretty well you're not even on me I'm just saying go ahead yeah anyway ooh nice King right movie retarded and I think it's gonna win something I really do I think I think I think I think this year is gonna be Ben Affleck here though are you gonna give him an Oscar I just do I feel like the buzz is playing up it's gonna be a great Oscar show into early 2013 all right let's get hit can I want to hear your work all right so for me I'm not a movie snob like i said earlier so when i go into every movie and I pay the 13 14 bucks i get the ten-dollar popcorn every movie I see these are the greatest movie I could go I can be seeing tile a tire Tyler Perry hey gonna see a Tyler Perry film and be you know what goddamn it this is going to be the greatest movie I'm ever gonna see I'm taking two hours out of my day to go to the movie theater and watch and so for me it's not the five worst movies of 2012 it's the five most disappointing of course of twenty twelve i'm so so number five killing them softly but you said recently saw it with brad pitt g fini was bad awful really do you like somebody owed somebody a favor and holler that's why birth james gandolfini maken rumor for you he comes in he's this awesome alcoholic funny surprise yeah cases all he's an alcoholic sex addicted he comes in he's this great huge character huge force on screen him and Brad Pitt have great dialogue back and forth bantering in this restaurant in this hotel room and then he just leaves the movie never to return yeah it was the sort of film that where people SAT around and they were like you know what we can get Brad Pitt on board will have a really cool trailer will play a rolling stone song in the background people see it and that'll be it right that's number five Number Four looper just knocking like enjoyed you know like about let's not worry I don't get it what you don't let me let me just say watch with time travel movies you always have to known it I'm not gonna give anything away though he's like of you whatever you have a movie that deals with time travel there's always going to be some loopholes that you have to just attending you have to suspend relaxed at the end or not cuz they put Justin okay the ending there's a lot of little kid but you have to admit inspired a lot of post movie conversation I think that's an indicator of at least about movie that's the thing and you know a lot of people uh they they have problems with the end of 12 monkeys yeah I think 12 monkeys is epic I think that film is ok it's not the word this is my most disappointing I like there as well as I love jgl Joseph gordon-levitt I expected it you like prosthetics like his face I do you do yeah move on number two number three of the amazing spider-man I believe that was bad um I'm gonna go right past the head number two the dictator it just you know what he set the bar so bad no you know what I think you're right with this with that funny you expected that to be really good after he well that's what I mean he shouldn't like bull rat and even on bow is that what was the other room terrible okay but the dictator because and you know what maybe he's done it to himself yeah coming with these expectations it just wasn't a problem with the dictator was that it wasn't all interviews right it wasn't that you actual it was actually natural gay because there are funny scenes in the dictators there are scenes that are so over the top and so ridiculous he's gotta stick to what made him famous right and that was really pissing people off and yeah embarrassing party can only assume so many identities I mean everyone knows who bore it is Boris is Borat is dead for all hire better actors or actresses to to you know to run with him on these jokes or that the general put you know so don't have to do something fool us are 10 worst movie the worst movie of the year most disappointing a thousand words with Eddie Murphy oh my god Oh might be thousand words that's the move n that's it must have forgot about that you saw that was it a matinee tell me was a man named Zoe uh it's been a friday night in the theater yeah look I love anymore can you stand papa you didn't see that movie you're full of I did you didn't see it I saw you saw that by yourself you'll only loneliness nobody wanted to go with me yeah a bunch of homeless men in the theater on sixty-second shirt got to get it out of the cold that was the most disappointing that's a pretty good list though I respect that not sure about looper I'm gonna hold judgement and early action until you see it let me know I heard good stuff about cabin in the woods near your heart echoes different twist oh you saw that yep I did see and you see a lot of movie I did I saw that what were your personal there's a lot of independent movies here like chasing ice was really good it was about the melting Arctic glaciers that one was great or AI weiwei which is about Chinese you it was he was like a Chinese guy but he was good he was a Chinese good chinese gay uh it was a good year for movie it was excellent there was a lot of movies this year usually you want movies to fail cuz it's funny to look at hollywood abajo they from all this money into a movie and nobody goes to see a petitioner the majority of them still our bed yes not nothing about even with these dozens and dozens of good films the majority of something what did you say a hundred movies come out or I think it's more than that but I think I think the majority of them are it's crazy but there's a lot of good ones this year all right we gotta switch gears yeah uh spend the next half of the show talking about television okay who's good year for TV mm-hmm uh we what we all kind of watch a lot of the same stuff well just doesn't watch TV cuz I don't have back 12 episode she doesn't even have a box right exactly did watch Walking Dead this year and I just you gotta give it up for walking dead this year just because they turned it around in my opinion and I think Justin shares the sentiment the first two seasons of The Walking Dead just weren't doing it and here comes season three in the first you know they've split up the season so season three is split up too many seasons this first mini season of The Walking Dead was excellent yeah and I'm using that word with no reservation it was excellent so definitely give the guys at that at that show a lot of credit because they really turned it around maybe it's because they're sticking to stories similar to the comic book a comic book is such a triumph that it's finally translating to TV yeah it took him a while but Walking Dead this year was excellent I also think that was walking dead this year they examined a lot more interpersonal relationships with the new characters that came out in the first season just felt like I didn't really know any of the guy right who is key dog it was distant right moreau just went away after one episode they had a lot of just a single dose characters right here a lot better zombies just taken over man yeah you know it means vampire now it's I was gonna say what what has a quick what's next we world war z his neck I'm reading world war z right now did you see the trailer for trailer for I don't know if I do and I'm often like these zombies there look like they're the fast-moving once that's what they are I want a book that's they're getting involved in the books I haven't been well think about it the book is about a 10-year war with zombies right the humic yeah humans fought the zom-- zombies weren't like loading up guns they were just a rampant you know right pack of people that were going crazy and they were unmanageable so we had a life also you did read sections of it the book is more of like all these different accounts yeah right it's from different yes from different perspectives from a doctor and what chinesey a little backstory people don't realize the guy who wrote World War Z is mel brooks's son haha max brooks max Bruch he so did I think he might have done graphic novels before orographic now but he also did the survival the zombie survival dinosaur how to survive a zombie apocalypse yeah it's just more funny huh World War Z is messed up horsy is crazy and that comes out in june you know brad pitt and i read brad pitt and leo dicaprio were in a huge bidding war over the rights that is not a bad couple of people to be arguing over you're right they should just let both of them play may never done you can have that one you have the first one you have the sequel back to uh TV though would you guys think of girls mmm like girl too real you know I was just gonna say that it almost made me feel uncomfortable yeah now being a 20 something year old guy living in New York has been dating in the scene and going out you almost watch it and you cringe a little bit because for so many years it's been easy for girls to see what goes on in the guy's mind through TV shows you even watch entourage and girls have been able to sell that's what they're really thinking and that's what they talk about and they're just with the boys yeah and girls has finally opened up our minds and our ears to see what goes on in a girl's head know were dating and texting and sexting and gchatting and all this other stuff and it was kind of like he gets the point where you're sitting on the couch like ah yeah I want to shut this off right i know i don't know i think i've been watching girls too and i mean it's it's really interesting to get a glimpse into a female's mind from that perspective but also i just think it's too real because i have a lot of friends at fit into these archives and that's the saddest part kinda depresses me that I have not a maybe room it might just be my own daily stretch of real ya that everyone just seems to be floundering in this like post-college mediocrity and that's what really depresses me but the thing is too though I think it's also a little too regional specific yeah I think New York is a bubble we could say it's it's pretentious spoiled white girls on the show yeah the thing is is that i'm not sure someone in you know omaha nebraska you know can like really appreciate that doesn't order six trainers right you know realities and that there's no it's also completely unauthentic because they've gone an entire season without meaning one non-white person right i mean yeah that'll do not you been to New York just wipe all white people only if you watch friends and girls you are aware that everyone has great apartment yep and no one's friends with black people and they don't have any real jobs but somehow they can afford places that require a five-thousand-dollar monthly span which is monthly payment right so I but I think theirs is like entitlement thing that translates and girls which for better or worse needs to be exposed I did think it was good though it's good all the good shits good you can you please seriously can take it to serve her credit for getting naked man give you forget that get naked a lot half-million-dollar book deal she just yeah doesn't matter man I'm just saying she knows what she's doing she's got a corner on the market but it's it's bogeyman and I'll I like that ya know she's got she seems cool she knows she's doing you know she would you want to hang out with her yeah I'd want to hang out and get drunk with her why not yeah would you want to hang out with no should I don't like yeah that's good I guess we gotta mention breaking bed I don't watch breaking bed I I don't know enough about the show but I know it's excellent and I know I need to watch it it's just one of those programs haven't gotten to you yeah the same thing happened with me with breaking bad that happened with weeds I just got bored um I did man yeah I didn't want to have to look back at four seasons of breaking bad i mean after he just stopped getting cancer the story just seemed irrelevant what the fated for me no it's not it's not a root it's not a ruining thing it's just he doesn't ever talk about having cancer that's a major same time as you still have it I don't know he somehow seem to have miraculously like we're just not about bringing the meth than him making the meth for he's kidding you just ruined the lion you know I'm out of here yeah we Zach and I obviously have to bring up the best show on television hands down and it's not my number one but it's okay for my sons of anarchy so so Justin I believe this is this guy he had such a weird honeymoon period yes sons of anarchy you watched a few like us little the first time she loved it yeah I really like I really liked it and then I got caught up to when it started airing on TV again and i just stopped and this is more just a symptom of me not having cable television and not make any way to consume it and that's the problem i just didn't want to have to go after every week and download a new epoch Justin's a tough tough critic yeah it doesn't really read is not the thing that's really important you know what that is yeah a cable box even on this episode maybe actually I think you like the required equipment but I don't disagree that is a great shape it was it was good this year you know it was good you hate on it and it's a love hate relationship you want to find never really you know Jeff that's when you know you really love sure you start looking for the littlest things a pickle mean look such as whether the walking dead were that some seasons are great tomorrow they're all very good they're all very good when you when you compare them to the to the national average okay okay there in like the 99th percentile yeah it's utter knows reason they it is written marvelously it is written uh brilliantly it's it's there's something about this show that it I think the acting is really good too i think the acting in the first season was maybe a little suspect but I mean they're not afraid to pull out punch that's not afraid to do him he'll kill off a main character in the snap of a finger he doesn't care that's what Kurt Sutter does he'll he'll throw in more than just a monkey wrench over phone a freaking army tank and not you know not care about it and I mean he'll do it with two seconds left in an episode right it's great that's what he does I I can't say enough good stuff about everyone who listens knows how we feel about it let's run through a few other things here a lot of people really are digging homeland but there i'm hearing in the second season has been a little suspect after watching that SNL skit where they made fun of everybody's little weird habits on the show I couldn't watch it and I know a lot people I can't watch it anymore because of that yeah the main cats small mouth that I can't get over that it's like he's sucking on a warhead yeah the entire time and he's looking into the Sun and he's just like is it in French Anouar what's her name is always crying morning yeah you know what though you look at you look at an actress like that in the career that she's had yeah and then she comes back headed nowhere and she's I'm not a big issue it is impressive like good for her I mean that is I don't even know how that works I don't know how you've taken ten years off yeah let's bring you back you make you the biggest name again in Hollywood you brought up another show that I wanted to talk about you SNL I think ethanol has really really made a comeback in 2012 in the late 90s early 2000s it was trash and I think everyone was trash even up to neck last year I think this room was great josh brolin episode is really funny Joseph gordon-levitt was great and a ball when he was great no then I before nians episode to save had a lot more solid skins that back we like drunk uncle a lot we love drunk a lot of people were upset when a lot of the cast members left right like a nice amberg kristen wiig both left in 2012 and i thought that was gonna flounder after that it didn't it's actually improved I think the seasons been ok I think the premiere was Seth MacFarlane was great awesome uh it's been ok yeah i thought the one this past weekend was i just hate the weekly Update with Seth Meyers which Seth my the weekly update he's just not it's not fun like yeah I don't like the week the update ok but people are definitely divided over all right up I want to get to things that are also on your list so it looks like tell me you're bad so we'll do best TV shows and we'll do like we did before follow suit yeah alright so best TV shows number five I have workaholics I love it you know it's such an easy after working all we all week all day you get home which is something you can watch 22 minutes and you're done number four curb with Larry in New York right Susie Angeles this season was great with Larry in New York I'm glad you brought that up number three it's still my favorite after all these years South Park sarcastaball was good raising the bar episode with james cameron do you catch anything she just no i didn't sound far this year was excellent was very good on number two sons of anarchy okay and my number one show of the year Louie nice to me it is just the most the epitome of if you if you are either young if you're younger than 4 and you just want to see what life will be like a zit divorced 40 something year old man with two miserable spoiled girls just watch louie it is the most you talk about girls being real and louie i think is even more real than what great real but at the same time Lou that show does a lot of David Lynch II Woody Allen sorta fantastic that's not a bad category to be a bet either I'm just saying there is a lot of realism in the show but they also have this car blog where they just go off the rails and like a sci-fi nhi it's like twin peaks thing all I have friends I won't watch it because a lot of them said I'm into pressing dark sort of TV shows a Six Feet Under using my favorite show but I have friends that all that won't watch louie are there because of how they're put because you don't know how you're gonna feel after you watch some people watching at the end of the episode you like so you have a couple drinks and you watch 0 for a wall right never to return from God forbid people feel emotional it's good runs a great show i don't know if it's number one but it's for me i would just switch sons in louis i would look worse the five worst number five to view the skill you watch this part that just like looked on the TV gun is like what do I what do I hate basically you okay number four what would Brian Boitano make that's a show that's a show I wasn't show on Brian Boitano the famouser biggest eat okay yeah over private and promote on I didn't she was here right now seem Lak kanessa to never saw the South Park movie no I didn't not a huge fan but ok oh yeah watching him cook yeah that's we that's it number three keeping up with the kardashians nice is still the worst show on as far as I'm because I'm one of the worst shows on television good i hate that number two toddlers and tiaras for introducing us to honey boo boo child and that is that number one no that's number two but honey boo boo should be number 10 because number one is even worse than honey boo boo what 16 and pregnant Oh beautiful I mean these are just scum of wisin I advise Jersey Shore not on there you know what well this is this is my jersey coming out yeah now you don't look jersey shore you know what you're really getting yourself into with it and there's no hiding behind that they're cursing they're fighting they're well you don't know no but you know what the way they try to make you think that there really is a storyline and a family that really cares about their well-being Jersey sure you know they know the characters on what they're getting themselves into as do the producers yeah honey boo boo they're trying to make it in ethical they're not and 16 and pregnant they're not yeah I mean these are 16 year old girls that are just don't like where we've evolved you I don't like raising the bar the South Park a bright don't know how low we've set the book but it's just and I don't know maybe it's that we're getting old maybe because I turned 30 this year I don't know what it is are you with me in re oh I got you like I don't watch I just it's really really bad and you know that's not say there's not good stuff as well but the stuff that's bad is almost the depressing feelings i get from the stuff that's bad almost overshadow the joy i have four things that because you start hating things so much that it's impossible to enjoy the good that's that alright you also made a list I didn't know that about people about just what you call a point wait real quick i wouldn't say one more thing about telling saloon and i want to talk about late night TV and that's sure that i've gone really wrapped up in recent watch literally right i watch late night with jimmy fallon almost every day so you're a big Jimmy Fallon fan I think it's funny but more so than that the music this year and in the past few years has been amazing well they're getting a new audience you've got a new audience the music director has gotten acts like Bruce Springsteen to come back again refused you remember that band refuse that core band from the 90 s they were on Jimmy Fallon they were all just reunited for Jimmy Fallon they had I just think that late night with jimmy fallon has been doing a lot of risky things too like they had odd future on for the first time they're the ones to break that they had Frank Ocean on whatever he knows i was like tyler theater yeah I the creative I'm just being a racism vision the fugees reunited on late night that was amazing to me i was out of my seat market for now like you said they're they're getting a younger a younger demographic to watch the app and also there's a lot of game stuff too yeah yeah they're putting this stuff online the next day they're in these performances and that's huge to it's all aggregates all you know it's just a way for them to promote the show but the music is huge yeah it's also started to watch these episodes or these late night shows simply for the musical moments that's going to be on yeah right speaking of tyler the creator i really liked his adult swim show yeah oh um that the home game at all there's like a Metalocalypse types types no it was like a jackass sort of out right um i forget the hell what was it called i can't remember now but it was on it was on Cartoon Network and I really happen to enjoy it yeah thought it was I thought it was pretty good the name of that show will come to me yeah second but uh thanks loiter squad loiter squad hey I enjoyed loaders but yeah so thank you tyler yeah and doesn't have a friend called like taco or something yes yeah I like 90 all those guys yeah yeah yeah that's pretty more young people on late-night TV that's all I yeah he's only 21 huh lucky they're all you two bae yong lucky best mm-hmm getting an adventure time by the way that's another show that regard blackshear Anton really good yeah really good stuff good year for card cartoons kick ass and they always yeah always will but love Bob's Burgers may give me some oh you know what I forgot about Bob's Burgers Superjail super generation for jail super Joe fantastic sup I want to hear your list because I have no idea what to expect now I've got the five coolest people 2012 in the five lame as people 2012 that's fading for the 404 let's start with the IRA do cool now we'll start with the cool i will do cool number five lindsay lohan cool you know what lets just hear me out she is God's so and then Justin those exactly rom countess she has gone so far off the deep end yeah and refuses to change her ways she's an alcohol that likes to party always getting dui's you would think with the amount of money she has in the access he'd just get a cab what she does I you know it's at the point now what's guy is so absurd she is that cool yeah so that she's my number five it's not even like she's I like the I like the explanation to it's not it's just like shouldn't you need to kick she could take like a Hummer limo home every day where did you fly a jet pack literally get on a helicopter yeah she's like nope gonna get behind the way up on the way she's like let it rain that's my number five Number Four Jeremy Lin because just what this guy did and one of the biggest cities that was this year yeah and with the next and you look back on it and I really think that's just it was phenomenal i jus so far as that yeah it's just a college basketball player he got great grades he went to Stanford III think and you know nobody expected anything of him and he just takes over an entire imagine taking over I can't even take a look over city I can't take over my apartment yeah yeah I can't take my apartment by myself right and just somehow this guy did it number three I've Katie Holmes solely for the fact of finally coming to her senses and divorcing you know what she was very late she's my biggest crush growing up and he's lost a fight she's great number two I el james mall there are fifty shades of grey she single hands leave the reason men over 40 or finally getting laid again you know you gotta respect that she is the reason why there's a huge sex resurgence coming across the world yeah she makes viagra look like garbage exactly and my number one cools person of the year that my man crush love that jg LG dark knight linkedin even though i didn't love it he was in lincoln too yeah i said now he wasn't looper even with the puppets I mean this guy is just he's killing he's on fire he plays a guitar there's a great musicians is I got this website where he he lets people submit their own videos to try to just change the world or something they don't know but it's all about nice guy I would hang out Jesus I wanna hang out with Jenna by that man a beer here you go a number far we doing well do lame people go let's do it let's do five lame is people 2012 number number 5 bill Amy the first names personally I hope there's some overlapping the best and worst the fifth lame is person in 2012 was the Summer Olympic fan huh they were the worst people like okay I've never I've never done waiting I've never watched swimming but now I am loving it come on you want to see somebody throw a javelin unless it's being thrown through a through an animal or watching her get so much pride every for whatever it is it is sort of this again yeah number 5 Jason Russell well that was number five that was number five this is for number four Jason Russell Jaison he directed the Kony 2012 video yeah for himself finally got the eyes and ears of Hollywood and everybody in the world because he was finally that he was the coming of age independent documentary movie guy he finally made a name for himself a hundred million hits he's going to change the world and they decides to get wasted and masturbate in San Diego State corners like what is he gonna be whacking it it's like dude you finally got the attention of the world you're gonna get a nice big agent at ICM or William Morris you're gonna make a name for yourself right now let's just throw it all away just let it happen go rub one in the middle of a street in san diego no one's gonna have a problem great video number three you called me out on it Lyndsay Weis double duders ever yeah coolest but also Lindsay get your head on straight no wood though right Oh after all these years yeah number two I would her dressed up as what they do as a I got a fetish for uh from 1930's I'm serious um number to the second lamest person of 2012 Taylor Swift we get it sweetheart we get it want to date these a-list celebrities and break up with them write these songs about them and cry nice but I just don't care for you yeah I respect that man and I'm number one the lamest person 2012 is a big group of people the social media complainers ah no get over it you know what the fact that you even have a mobile device to complain through they automatically put you in the 99th percentile of human being there's people out there that don't even have a piece of paper and a pen yeah to write down their complaints and grievances and here you are complaining that you waited too long anyway too long at the DMV guess what sweetheart be thankful you've got the DMV yeah and you know you're not riding around and I rhinoceros trying to punch your own food like you're not living in a part of the world like this is it to me I complain to no it's fine you do complain but we love having you on because this was a great list but I've got one last one okay the MVP of 22 Oh who's this is the most valuable player most valuable player of 2012 you don't want them on your team in life and support everything for her it's a thing so the most valuable the most VP world yeah 2012 it's Twitter Randall media I I'm a walking hype about to the hypo contract which I am just a contradiction you know it's at the point now where you introduce somebody it's not right hi I'm Zagat hey i'm at Zach attack you know it's your hashtag first it's the you're at ya ever your ad is waiter that's how people come and it's just you can't even watch a sporting event without Cris Collinsworth or 60 year old broadcasters bringing up it sound so natural well on Twitter today they're so annoying at it's everywhere super liked what if that's how you're thinking Twitter's won the MVP the last three years and yeah it just continues at listen I me I was gonna give it to Instagram yeah but I'm sick of looking at macaroni and cheese or the 1970 to filter all right we get it you made a box of Kraft Mac and Cheese for dinner you're cool I'm making it look better than all right let's punctuate this episode with some shameless self-promotion then you clearly brought up Twitter because you want to pimp your own Twitter account what the heck is you can have I have a twin what is it I think I follow all porn stars and athletes no hay with gram things that even safe to put about my plants and rappers yeah thinking about my twitter account yeah okay what is it twitter com yeah cuz it home I know it works what's your personal yeah I don't have a person what's crazy Jew mom oh he has a he does have a parody one crazy oh you want to feel that crazy that's what is crazy jumong crazy Jew mom yeah twitter.com / crazy Jew mom I'm gonna bring that up yeah yes we do Sheila Cohen Bergman look at home far wall I don't know happy elated Oh in September 24 oh yeah I don't you all I do is read other people's tweets this is great you gonna get on that is excellent boom all right follow Zach and once you get your own Twitter account like your purse does that work I'm allowed to have multiple yes I think you just forgot about that I probably did thanks for tuning in hope you're enjoying your holiday break we're back January second which is a wednesday yeah make sure you're following along I will be on Twitter throughout the break maybe yeah we'll see and Facebook and all that stuff and we'll keep the reddit thread going on throughout the entire break reddit com / r / the 404 that's going to do it for us Zach Weinberg ladies gentlemen thank you for being on once again always I heard you're having Zach here for rounding up entertainment in general for the year that was 2012 hope you guys have a great holiday and a new year we're back January second until then I'm Jeff I'm just in you I'm Zack Weinberg I'm Arielle noon it's the 404 show high-tech lowbrow 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