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Russ brush too why hello there is this spooky voice cuz it's October boo you're such a dumb as the ghost how are you bud I'm lovely this seems like a good weekend to listen to podcast so if you're in the Northeast because we're gonna get a crap ton of rain this weekend so i hope you download it right away because the power will likely be right you need to listen spod cast by candlelight it's gonna be a really old timey sort of situation yeah we're recording this on wednesday a little bit ahead of schedule and uh i believe today is like podcast day what do you mean wednesday this two days ago was poz day and wow do we celebrate I don't know like what's supposed to happen on podcast day there yet money I don't know like two is there a union that we're not paying dues to that we should be collecting some sort of check I feel like if any day were to give us some sort of reward it would be today I don't know I'm just trying to inquire a little bit more I don't know podcast day you seem a little unorganized I feel like every day is a stupid-ass thoughtless like hey its second mailman's replacement day it's ridiculous enough already with the days when is the date doesn't need to be a puppy dog day and each city has its own series of days like you could Oh October thirtieth is Jeff Bakalar day but only in this little tiny New Jersey City that no one cares about well first of all they care about the city the second of all no you don't need every day to be something I don't need a day to be bagel day right first off that's every Friday well also every day because I love bagels pinnacle days every day and puppy days every day cuz puppies are the best oh yeah alright so let's get that crap out of the way I want to talk real quick about last week's episode with the very elusive the very interesting mild-mannered monotone at times Derek water in this just sort of who he is is is sort of like that's his tone avoid like very even keel and yeah I got tons different kinds of feedback so let me start from a personal point of view I loved him very nice I thought he was so freaking nice I was really disappointed I was not here i was in san francisco i missed it it was a bummer and then apparently he went to do like Howard Stern the next day so clearly we set him up well like what he needed to be was Stern was pissed that he came on this show first I think storm was like man I can't believe 44 scoop me again I think so um uncle I'm just happy to be on the same freaking see ya oh yeah other seemed like junk impressed um so yeah uh he's a very interesting dude because and when I say interesting I mean you know you kinda it takes a second to like figure out what kind of guy he is and we you know we we joked around a little bit beforehand and that's usually when I sort of decide what angle this interview is gonna go in sure you know whenever a celebrity comes in was like work you know I know what this person's like in the public eye and on TV what's this guy or girl like in real life will they be cool if I tickle them right would it be cool if i made like I don't know some kind of off-color joke or like mash notes right don't he was really receptive to all that stuff it was a really good dude I could tell he had not been awake for very long sure I well yeah what time did you would do the interviews was ten a.m. yeah that i've he seems like a night kind of person as am i sure it was the first thing i did yeah on uh on wednesday that's for sure yeah but i love talking to him uh he's super down-to-earth just a normal guy who had a great idea who has some really funny friends and got this show off the ground if for whatever reason you don't know about it and maybe you skipped last week go back and listen I'm also putting together some stuff for a video because we did sit down on a set and do the whole interview yeah so I'm thinking about I'm gonna I'm cutting it up right now and I'm going to make that a little shorter than then the 40 minute podcast that came that yeah so because I think you don't have any questions for me you're just gonna listen to the I'm Jewish I was traveling i missed the whole thing and i feel like if i ask you questions about what happened that seems like i'm super lazy about it no it's fine um yeah like I said I got all kinds of different reactions from people which I thought which is usually par for the course yeah sure but it was like pretty much split down the middle I do love this show this is really tremendous it's one of my favorite shows on Comedy Central and just to show you and watch no matter what like you don't have to catch up there's no like you know references the older episodes you just wrap in and it's a bunch of famous people acting reenacting drunk clarity and i had will ferrell yeah recently I'm very few shows have real live puking on them I guess reality shows probably have a fair amount of that but sometimes they blur it but they there's a lot of puking and drunk history which I guess is to be expected well they were you know he was saying like that's not what they aim to do sure but no one know like.you never you never know what you never know um i would probably be like to apple martinis down and and that'd be it for me i thought i did talk to him a little bit about that appletinis that's it just two just two just idea that's all I need at least you're having the appletini we should live in your life yeah damn it um I assume I was like yeah you know what's the deal like a lot of people kind of stole your idea like do you mean the wedding yeah like that I mean whatever they go back and listen to that yeah he Ike was not happy I don't know I said it and he was like oh what do you mean I'm like out you know right I'm like what do you think it's gave me an interesting answer okay um but uh you know I was like yeah a lot of people kind of do this I mean I want to do it like I want to tell I want to explain like the history of apple shirt wasted totally you know yeah like I so I want to do right but I want to do it on CBS this morning I want to go there at eight o'clock yeah blind drunk take a peyote button beforehand right maybe drop some acid to just to balance me out and you know just talk to Charlie Rose about lat what Steve Jobs is and like how he's kind of a dick in real life what is the life was a dick in hell yes anyway let's talk about some of the stuff that's happened this week week and it's been a busy week so far wait for technology if you if you like technology you're half in the right place yeah because we're going to talk about Google and their Nexus phones that were announced earlier this week I feel like this is good timing because we just I think a couple episodes ago talked about how you were like I wanna get an iphone yeah I feel left out I just wanna I message with Stacey all the time and just like JK lol emojis for her non-stop do you still feel that way no because I already bought this new one ok that is that yeah I how long did you wait I just I instant I was refreshing the store oh my gosh so here's the deal right like I my big thing is the camera short and I've become frustrated with my g three how old is that how many years about almost two years old ok um I don't know I man you know I just got a little too frustrated with Apple um and when you look at like the 6s plus yeah I mean them that phone super ugly I mean it's huge it's huge and it's very uh doesn't look dramatically different from the six it no it does it's you're talking about a for us 47 screen to a 55 no sorry i meant the the 6s versus the six all right then you know plus design wise it's the same as last year yeah the year of year they'll like form factors change but like I've is the first time I held a 6s plus yeah and I'm holding this thing I'm just like it's a norm good god is this ugly I don't find it ugly it's kind of nice to get rid of those bevel those bezel well they is especially with the success in that button you need a case like I've never not had a case for those phones a cuz they're hella expensive and because like it's easier to hold and yeah actually looks pretty good if you have a decent case on it all right um so I mean that sort of sucks because you're throwing down hundreds of dollars and then you have to throw it at another 30 bucks for a case sure but what are you gonna do so here's a DSO you know after I'm switch I'm leaving verizon soon anything i'm just gonna know i'm gonna go to tmobile the uncarrier yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna get myself on Carrie I'm gonna just cuz of money uh I yeah money is part of it you're at the same time I'm just frustrated with verizon not giving a shit about me like I don't and I'm not seeing t-mobile's gonna like you know come over and make me dinner right but I want some lever I want to feel the love a little bit and I want some leverage and I want a company that isn't like oh here's using 895 up your boat charging yeah what why am I paying this yeah so I feel like I could never leave AT&T that's a good sign because I have to deal with oh I've grandfathered in unlimited data right so I'm I feel like like this is going to be like the new rent control like you're gonna pass grandfathered unlimited data down through the generations i'm at the name my children Ross consistently as is their children's for the Yankee exactly get the pass him down right um yeah so I'm out of that I don't have any awesome legacy stuff rights forever you're free some free so I'm gonna leave and I'm gonna have a tmobile pay my ETF sure which i think is awesome and if I don't like t-mobile I'm just gonna leave I'm gonna go to Google Phi yeah which then I've just got off the red anyway let's get back to the phones themselves uh huawei which is I believe a chinese manufacturer yes is making the nexus for the first time this thing's a freakin powerhouse it's called the 6p it's got a 5.7 inch screen a Snapdragon amp dragon 810 processor apparently the cameras pretty baller it's going to have a USBC charging port which i did is the first one is going to move it the new macbooks the little macbooks the super small ones use that us bc o ok i don't know about phones and it's might never meet you think you better than me yeah uh-oh so yeah i don't i don't care that has front-facing speak years because ya think listening to music on your phone is for assholes yes um so yeah I a fingerprint reader all right i'll take it's nice I unikey I'll use it and see if it's important to me for me it's all about the camera uh obviously that's a huge deciding factor like religious men get marshmallow first version of the six point but what was that so like the dot I've iphone 6s obviously has a very good camera too so what was the determining factor just like you didn't want to switch away from yeah I think at the end of the day American I I I just didn't want to leave yeah and it was just like harrowing idea to me yeah it's daunting I just want to do and I don't even think would be that big of a deal yeah and cuz apple just added that transfer over I would reuse that why not would I don't know what that does brings all your contacts over and then sends them straight to Tim Cook says it is in box yeah uh I don't care because I everything I use is google anyway so I would just hook up gmail you can you get your gmail contacts and your iphone without transferring junk sure that's what I would do okay and i would use google photos exclusively and I take that to the bank baby i don't know i'm i'm sadly in the pocket of apple in the sense that i just like I you know my work computer is an apple of my phone's an apple and they all sort of talk to each other it's nice because you're weak I'm weak Emily just a weak person so that's the 6p little pricey starts at five hundred bucks that's with a contract that's no contract free free free free country I understand bring my reverie well that's not that bad not bad because think when you subsidize a phone I'm gonna get you're paying that anyway yeah and when you leave you're gonna have to incur that cost at some point sharam I'm excited to use it I'm excited to see how it goes the battery let's not forget this battery yeah it's got a 35 milla amp hour battery I wouldn't take 34 but I take 35 don't you shut your mouth because all I know is when you look at the numbers the shore the the MA Asia's of these batteries the milliamp yeah it's significantly bigger on the 6p yeah I don't got a killer battery yeah I would wait until a company or a website an independent website did hardcore testing does determine how hurry I don't know what website now what probably seen it probably say what 3000 is bigger than 2,000 that's sure and you don't need a freakin website to tell you that's that's fifty percent bakery oven so here's the deal they've also come out with a phone called the 5x yep and that's going to be made by LG don't forget Huawei's getting the first time contract to make a nexus phone with the with the higher end one the lower end one I wouldn't want to say lower end but it's called the 5x LG is making it that's confusing well how does that compute because it sounds like 5s which is with an apple phone that already exists this ok like why didn't they just call it like the 5t or something they're gonna run out of letters pretty quick and they're gonna have to use emoji it's gonna be like the five poopy smiley face you think so I think definitely five poopy smiley face yeah it's gonna be really good all right I'm eager as long as they don't use any of those Pope emojis I'll be fine um so yeah get excited about that if you aren't looking for the highest end nevertheless it's a pretty well-to-do phone and a very capable specs yeah so you're not taking a downgrade by going down the 5x route from LG I kind of like the designer that phone a lot yeah it's not gonna go it's not going to get that metal body that the 6p has but you're still going to be well served with a pretty sleek sort of form factor with that 5x there you have it those are the two new phones they announced they also did some stuff with chromecast and they've got a tablet coming down the road called the pixel see you know I don't know I guess though that's a fair if you if you still think you need a tablet yeah I don't hate do you really with these giant phones I have no desire to use tablets anymore my ipad is a six-hundred-dollar comic right reader right totally a hundred percent it's comics it is good for comics I kinda want the comic industry to like break away from that make their own little thing oh really like a like a kindle like a kindle that'd be cool very cool yeah get get all those guys too good thing they have so much free money the like floating around pull your resources man you're basically saying Marvel get marble image DC yeah but Imogen TC you know the image and easier huge there that they're huge but but in terms of like spare I need to make hardware that's a huge investor you get prorated Marvel's got under you know foot the biggest part of the bill anyway that's that um when we come back I want to talk about we got take a quick break when I come back we're gonna talk about um a game yeah I came out yes this week that is a hot hot mess steamy hot mess it's a flaming dumpster fire and you're gonna be upset because i'm sure this game for this franchise has a very special place in most of your hearts more 404 right after this hey Russ you got yourself a cloud no is that a problem you should get one oh but it seems like it's too complicated for me I don't know if I could handle my own cloud yeah you all I'm not saying you yourself I'm saying you should hire a company like soft light okay they do clouds they know clouds they're an IBM company and they deliver clouds that are built for innovation software is one of the only cloud providers that provisions dedicated servers and virtual servers did you know that so I did know it's otherwise known as a public 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the scientist um what was that is that the thing like you just can't do voices I just lay mean I can't do voices too all right prove it no we're not doing that I'm saying like you don't want to open that I've got doors but I've got a lot of good feedback about your inability to do voice good well I'm glad we're sticking to that shit was to let that one summer for a little bit the game we were teasing before we hit the first break um it's tony hawk's pro skater 55 the fecal how long has it been since a good tony hawk game came out is it i think the last good game was tony hawk's project eight okay which that had to be I want to I want to guess that that came out in 2007 no it's gotta be later than that really it's gotta be later than that it's 2006 oh how is that awesome or easy cuz they did that awful motion control game was that where's project date before or after the like underground I think was after those underground it had to be it had to be and it just went totally it was dead bye dad dead I cannot and will get back to why Tony Hawk's Pro Skater five sucks but I I can't believe that what so it went Tony Hawk I think they made two of those motion tony hawk's ride those motion control games that were awful so when Tony huh after two tony hawk's pro skater 4 and 0 to you had underground underground to american wasteland project gate and then proving ground I don't even know what proving around it oh I remember this ok it was probably it was probably ok as well it's never a good sign when the wikipedia page for your franchise has a section called series decline mmm and it just says 2008 to 2014 well guess what I think we could probably extend that maybe one more year wow so is the climb ouch ouch they're not wrong I mean look here's what it is I am not terribly familiar with the production road for Tony Hawk's Pro Skater five sure it was very clear that the nostalgia the desire to go back to your roots and to just make a game where you had this collects gate yeah you had the hidden tape that was now a DVD fun and DVD definitely very timely there I understand that like why wasn't it just like I'll collect the geotag write something like not from 2002-10 or something anyway it sounds like they had very little time to develop develop the game and despite the fact that like they didn't have much time and there's not a ton of stuff in there it's still char they're still charging 60 bucks which is just like a relic of a different era the fact that this game is sixty dollars yeah is a huge slap in the junk slap in the face slapping wherever it hurts to anyone who is even thinking about buying this game let alone has a little piece of nostalgic you know sentimental sent sentimentalities that word yes that's about outing it is word okay towards this series because these games were great yeah and this kind of smash-and-grab job this kick this quick cash grab job of what Tony Hawk's Pro Skater five has turned into really really upset it seems to me like they're they basically accepted the fact that okay this franchise is done we're setting it off we're putting on a little raft like at the end of my Joe Young yeah it's gonna float off into the ocean bye-bye but before that happens we're gonna goof a lot of people by making one more game sticking on store shelves and anyone that loves Tony Hawk is gonna be like Oh a tony hawk game I'll buy that or I'll buy that for my nephew who like skating or whatever and they're gonna make a little cash but this is like there's no way you come back from this so this for as far as I'm concerned this franchise is over it's done this is the nail in the coffin right if they want to resurrect it it's you can keep Tony Hawk sure I think you need to because I can't name another's case I'm not gonna point the finger Tony Hawk no it's not his fault he's been cashed checks for a while now and the guy is like super nice a nice guy I I'm sure he saw this i mean i'm sure he played it before was out and we can be like oh you guys maybe this games broken a little bit i don't know i don't know how much casey dude he's got plenty of other brands to hawk uh no it's just so it's just so sad it's really sad okay so why's this game suck why's this game hot garbage uh it's been a lot of it is broken and I played it for two hours last night and I already saw like what so many people were saying there's huge clipping issues meaning you fall right through the map yeah um the physics stuff is all out of whack sometimes was there a big day one patch they really so listen to this it was a day one patch that was like a hundred and sixty percent the size okay of the original game yeah so that happened it was like a four and a half gigabyte patched or two gigabyte game yeah so I don't know where that is apparently that patch needed to happen because the game just wouldn't work cool don't even understand like there needs to be certification right like you don't get allowed to upload the game not to mention there's got to be some people that like just by the disc and don't have a steady internet connection or don't have a like have caps on their internet and can't download another two gigs or whatever I don't know so you bring up the disc thing and I don't know if this is a game that you can buy a really disk I'm not a hundred percent sure I'm gonna look it up real quick on cuz i know it's 60 hours which is it is definitively $60 pretty outrageous but i can't remember the last time that there was a digital-only game that was 16 hours oh maybe I maybe I Caroline pc games I'm pretty sure you can buy in a store maybe I'm I could have sworn this was like only download but maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm it looks like on gamestop i'm at the gamestop for the second time in my life um it looks like you can buy it okay but uh yeah I look I don't know I I don't know uh it's just it's bad it's bad and it's right around in it probably not it doesn't matter even he can't say this guy's didn't even feel like a sixty-dollar game either because it feels so light yeah in terms of content yeah and even if you can like ignore for the for a minute that the game is broken and their severe issues with the gameplay it's not fun right like even the times where it works it doesn't and it doesn't have that same feeling the gameplay feeling that it did in one through four like the thing that they're going for even that thing they missed that mark on how is the soundtrack sad Jax pretty good okay that's like the soundtrack is right up your alley that's the only thing the game really has going for it ah there's about 40 songs or so okay 32 songs so uh look I would be upset if my even the soundtrack glitches out even this there's skips in the music for crying out loud yeah so look a big avoid it said so Dutson that's a no bye no bye official no by stamp of disapproval from the 44 so it feels like you've been duped into being excited about a new tony hawk game yeah i got scammed man you got revolting skin you know who else got scammed as a matter of fact what's this I got a phone call this morning about eight thirty in the morning for my mother miss fresh dick hmm who called me and said so I just got a call this is her talking I just got a call um on my phone and I didn't pick it up but then I got a text message saying your phone has been hacked please call one eight hundred blah blah blah blah stop it she's telling this to me and I'm like okay that's a scam don't call them right and she's like well I called them all well I called them and I'm like oh no and she's like well they said I was infected and that I should go to this website and I went to the website and they were selling this 190 dollar virus protection program and thank God she did not buy the virus protection program but she was like he sounded so convincing like he sounded like a tech support guy he's a con man and i really i mean i think pretty much anyone could probably convince I feel like people of a certain generation our parents generation are just not aware of because this is not the first time this has happened like she gets emails her thing is infected I what she sees a banner ad your computer is infected click to fix and then you're toast you know week I'm trying to get this out in the right wording okay she's not a tech savvy person text editors but I don't think it's a generational thing per se I think because 50 years ago sure they're worse can write a lot of it i'm sure with like banking yeah checks crap like that but that guy comes to your door with a suitcase selling vacuums but he's got a gun oh sure the attorney mean the old stick up this is a robbery scam yes uh stick them up no so i think like back before the internet back before this digital revolution there were a lot of analog scans I mean look at like you know on now what was a catch me if you can like write that kind of stuff where was like really clever conning right okay now I don't think let's use your mother as the example I think your mom would have liked been victim would fallen victim to stuff like that back then well now i have like Frank abaca right pray I'm talking about like more low-level stuff like the shit she just did right it does seem like they're using the the the camouflage of the internet right to seem authority right so like grandparents now are like you know the internet sort of a mysterious thing that has some sort of like professionalism to it like you don't know how it happens or who's behind it right it just it's just magic but you you know when something goes wrong you either have to call someone that knows what's going on or you like search online and and you know we have that that definition in our brains that says oh this is crap like this bullshit you've like a radar to determine like oh these are scams and I just feel like it requires like this second level of nuance to understand that like if you get an email saying like hey check out this picture don't check out that picture right and it's so innocuous and sometimes it's even from a person whose name you recognize and you'd like i would know if i get an email from you and it was like a little bit weird and there was attachment I probably wouldn't open it and my mom and her generation probably would like that we have this built-in it's just cuz we were raised right it no people of that generation have it as well if they spend enough time right what's really interesting that I found out is obviously everyone knows the Nigerian scam that's like the big internet scam or when I give him all my money he's a prince he's a freeze in a bit of a dire straight here I need a little money to set him up and then once he comes to us your goat your so-called golden so what's interesting about that is people say okay obviously no one's gonna fall for that it's the most obvious scam everyone already knows about it what it sounds like is that the scammers actually intentionally make those scams as obvious as possible because that ensures that they get the most positive hits out of the responses so the people that are go enough to say oh I might actually get some money out of this are the people they want contacting them they don't want people contacting them saying hey that's interesting but let me ask you or information right you meet a keynote so they're intentionally making these things really blatantly obvious so they can get the people that are most gullible and most likely to give them money which is kind of really interesting easy a social engineering thing it's a social engineering thing and it's like man that's kind of smart it is you got to give these scam right credit and then the other thing you were saying about the old generation of scammers you have to consider in all those instances that was a one to one moment you were scamming let's say the bank teller on the other side of the table you weren't trying to scam 50,000 people with one email which is fishing which is fishing so essentially like their level of like time commitment is so much lower and you know if they get a point O one percent response rate on one of those emails that's a success for them yeah whereas if it was Frank Abagnale trying to go from bank to bank that would never be a viable scenario right it's so true because you don't realize man there as as crazy as it is and as many hundreds of thousands of people that would never even think to click that link there's one right yeah and that one gets obliterated I mean you you there's no coming back from that right I don't know yeah it's just not I don't think it's something you can I mean eventually if you're using it enough you can try to but it's happened a couple times and for like innocuous ways to like change passwords people asking to like change for Apple passwords right and I just don't know how to like I'm like that's a scant I knew I the second she started talking it was a scam and it's just like it was like so much we were like yeah it was over so that was a fun little morning there's been a bunch though you there's been a bunch of scam there's so many and I kind of like them I like them because i like the smart ones okay like the ones where there's like bank stuff and I mean these people are criminal and I'm not endorsing it sure I'm just yeah the one reader like the most limiting in terms of personal damage I think I'm fine relatively fine with oh I'm not fine with any of them I you know like you can call a lot of things scan jaron on so if you've been on facebook this week you've seen now this isn't a scam it's just a hoax yeah those so uh if you are one of this oh look everyone's like oh you know you never know it could be really I gotta put that I gotta put this thing up okay if you're that kind of person you there's other things in life that you're overlooking as well let's be clear of what you're talking about though we're talking about a scam that has been re popularized for whatever reason this week on facebook it happens every six months but yeah that's roughly what it is somehow through these social assholes which I'm gonna start calling a thing okay it's just people on facebook who don't know any better yeah just click whatever button they're told to yes and like whatever hell the thing and yes it's bad the thing with Facebook is everything with Facebook is bad yes because Facebook and I'm gonna put the the hoax on on hold for a sec okay and I'm having these like the swing of consciousness that I just don't know that is the problem with Facebook is that it it confuses too many people and too many people see shared articles yes that are from bullshit sources yes come through their feed and they think it's the fucking New York Times yeah and they click it and they're like shit that cliparts roll up like a source I want to read that looks like a professional journalist did that and they click it and they share it and they take it as fact yeah and that is the freakin problem it's even with face bright I completely agree and they don't make the source very obvious there's even bad instances where the New Yorker has this kind of lame parody column called I think the Borowitz report or something like that and I'll see posts from that report on my Facebook feed and it says it's from The New Yorker and the headline will be something like Congress does I don't know outlaws ice cream or something like that but it's from The New Yorker so I like I'm like what you like on and I have to like do research into whether this is legit or not facebook is awful i completely agree it's very dis deceptive about like when you're clicking through stuff what you're looking at you really like most people don't do the legwork to like care about sources and stuff like that so because that is now our process yes meaning we don't do any of the legwork and we take everything almost as fat right on its face something has to happen now I know you're going to be like oh well how can you like somehow police that and like oh if they're putting a story from you know Bob doe calm the the integrity and the reliability goes down to zero you need to do something yeah you have to do something right it's just because it's shared 180 thousand times doesn't mean it's coming from someone who knows what the hell they're talking about did you hear about the NPR april fools joke that they did last year no NPR did a post that just said it as the headline why doesn't America read anymore and posted it to their Facebook feed and the facebook feed was filled with comments being like screw you and bri read all the time right but if you click through it says congratulations april fools jerks right you all comment on this article about how you read all the time and we are a headline and move on it's a society i get sex in fury so this is why this kind of stuff happened yeah it's essentially what i'm getting at for whatever reason these and and the worst is when you see some do this that you kind of respect you need to say what it is first before we know I'm building that 472 it's a hoax where people are under the impression that everything they post to Facebook including their images and whenever become Facebook's property long that's the long and out of it and by somehow posting five paragraphs on your feed you somehow absolve yourself and become the only sole proprietor of the content that you post yeah as if that would be the way Facebook is doing that privacy yes yes that's the way they're doing it they're just having a billion people put that on their wall that's the way you you solve this problem yeah it'd be like going to a baseball game and you're in the audience with a video camera and you it and you're filming the game I know you're getting and you announce this is my personal video I'm only doing this for me and then and the MLB would be totally cool with your posting that no it's fine like what is wrong and and really if you post this on your Facebook page all you're doing and you're doing it very clearly is saying to all your facebook friends unfriend me unfriend me I'm an idiot congratulations you're friends with an idiot if you'd like to rectify that now it's a good time look on front and I use this as an opportunity to thin the herd totally one hundred oh my god oh my god great I got rid of 15 people yeah oh it's fantastic it's and it's so at such catharsis it's like later bar no longer in my life moron we're no longer quizzes leaping idiot yeah um yeah but the worst at like I was getting too before we said exactly what this thing is the worst is when it's someone you really like yeah or someone you really maybe respect right and you just see him or her do it and you're like oh shit yeah do i do i post on there through my comment all right what do i do there's no way to handle it there's no right there's no good way to handle it cuz it's all it's going to end in is you would have to direct message them but the problem is the direct message couldn't be anything other than hey Yura bleep an idiot I want to okay a family member of mine which I will keep nameless sure i will not name him or her okay lazy stacy pacolet no one time posted something and he or she has done this like half a dozen times writer he or she put a story on facebook it wasn't it was just like cut and pasted text got it where was like if you're ever at an ATM and you feel like you're someone like a shady character is around yeah there's a way like like if you're being held up at an ATM yeah all you have to do is enter your PIN in backwards what I know and they Timbs you call the cops oh my god that is really bad aside from the fact of what do all the people with the code 100 1 and so on do right but just think uh and and maybe there's a separation of how people think they are perceived on facebook maybe that's a part using their joking maybe no no way no way now I see someone like cut and paste this stuff start adding funny things there right I give no on the right to do anything because I'm not a bright an idiot sure so those are pretty that out there when that when they occur yeah I I don't know I think there's a whole weird psychological thing that Facebook is done to us that I just can't quite put my well I think a big part of it is just your you live in a place where relatively people are of the same similar mindset you know Kylie made it close enough um but there's still some people who are internet stupid we're like they're totally yeah lucid and put together Elijah sure the second they get them hands on those game boards they just they just they just crap them right they just don't know what to do right so I don't know what that is yeah and I'm not saying we're better than well now we're get really barely and clearly nobody me but come on I mean if you if you went to Yale like I have people who are like straight up scholar sure I don't get it yeah I don't get it I don't know yeah but that is a wedding so that got me thinking like Oh what are other really good scams you know stuff like that um so there's a lot of like Judas games come in all shapes and sizes or they not they get through the mail yep a lot of snail mail scans or a thing I get a lot of the ones like I could I have a landline in my apartment so we can buzz people in yeah and I know six seven times a month you get one of those like congratulations you've waited on myself until you've won a yacht right give away a 40 million dollar yacht that's really gonna give me right so I I just what I do is I just pray that a human being picks up I just have like a 10 minute thing with them right just you like have all I do it all the time and what do you like ask some questions about the service because I because I want them to think that they've reeled in like a really big door like homeboy yeah I gotta keep reeling this bad don't you think they're also judged based on how long they keep people on the phone no cuz it's zero that's like I mean I'm sure there's people like me look even if that's true I'm still throwing off the the ratio case you have the actuarial tables are getting I'm still brewing up there that's probably true I I just use my phone's ability to block specific numbers and I whenever a spammer calls I just add them to my spam ela right but that's not gonna do anything I mean it does say don't minimize the same number they don't but it has minimized the number of calls I gotta my cell phone kind of nice uh cell phones I alms get none yeah that's great um so I got me look the thinking and I looked up so there's like from New Jersey calm okay i don't know why they came up quick maybe it's a sure location thing on google uh but there they they have like five really big scans to watch out for of 2015 sure so they're they're number one scam was ransomware ransom where yeah do you know what that is it's basically like let me guess is it an app that uses those crazy cutout letters to write notes to people and if you want to see you d drive again cuz it's pain in the ass to find all those different kinds of letters if I can get the m4 Mad Magazine dedication where you get another app I don't know its dedication magazine / max action / Maxim uh so yeah like they're talking about ransomware I've never really come into contact with this but up but a lot of people you know fall victim to instances where they will either be approached by someone impersonating a figure of authority okay who says like we you're on this list sure and you look your computer IP address looked at child porn right and if the only way you can get around this is a one-time fee of five thousand dollars sure enough people pay Charon in particular patient tasteless tasteless um a lot of mobile payment scamming yeah um a lot of the concerns well like so a lot of people are overly concerned about mobile payment scams but most of them are unrealistic some people think like oh if I leave my phone too close to a reader it'll get charged some hands a few but but it's not that it's it's more about like getting tricked into paying for something that you didn't necessarily sign up for it um the list goes in through like credit card chips oh yeah that's a scam like the you can get scammed with that because um you the chip is exclusive to the card yeah a number can be written down or whatever the chip is exclusive to the card so that's the thing to consider in october i believe of this year they're switching over the whole the way credit cards are used in the entry or now you'll have to like have a card with a chip and apparently that ship is like you're only the only way to really pay for school great and that's it you'll like stick that in a thing sure what do you think of that I think it's great I as I understand it in Europe credit card fraud is very very rare right because they have those things data system so that's great i might car get stolen probably twice a year and it's a big pain in the ass so Austin was telling me Austin Walker from John bomb is telling me about a money order scam that he fell victim to where he was selling something on craigslist yeah and the guy wanted to buy it was like hey I'm gonna send you a money order and I was like uh okay yeah the guy sends him a money order and then says oh I sent you the wrong one can you cash and give me the money back and I'll send you the difference and essentially what it is is like the money orders for too much money yeah and you send them back more than what it was originally worth like oh okay sure your you know subterfuge know what a money order is yeah like who the hell uses that like I'm sorry you found something on craigslist and I'm gonna use those antiquated way possible pay for it come on so there's a lot of scams out there watch your back and if something feels furry furry fishy yeah furry would really be raised eyebrows girl just just you know search for it cuz odds are too does someone that you feel like knows a thing or two about technology like literally one simple question of hey this is kind of weird what's up right and if it's if you're a parent and you have kids that know technology or vaguely know technology they'll probably instantly tell you oh that's a scam stop whatever you're doing uh you know throw your computer out the window yes man someone a couple years ago I was away skiing and I got a call during the day and it was from someone claiming to be lifelock which is that personal security shirt and lifelock goes hey you something about your informations been compromised I've been like all right well I've never signed up for life lock right and they they didn't want anything from me right they just kept saying and I i don't i don't know i don't know what it was about it was this non-stop back and forth and i was mad sure because they called me they knew my name well yeah that's just not difficult um and then they wanted like my address i didn't give that Brian and I was just like men like just out with it I'm not gonna I'm clearly not going to be convinced to give you any vital personal or financial information yeah so what the hell are we doing it just I rub me so wrong it was it was bad anyway that's our the charity Jeff I want to hear if you've had a scam like the most creative scam yeah Wiz hold on you admit your lowest moment to us and we'll share it on the air absolutely we will gladly exploit your lowest moment for podcast entertainer or even better if you worked for a scamming company and have since reformed but could share some really fun details about your life as a scammer you can never leave the scam game resin once the skin games got you there's no good now to do it more 404 after another break from a word from our sponsor stay tuned lot more coming your way I don't know how to do mobile payments nope mind I want to accept mobile payments on the app I just built it's called jeffer yeah what does it do it delivers a Jeff to your house in five minutes or less I don't know how many people would pay for that but if they did I probably want to use a service like Braintree because Braintree is easy code for easy mobile payments maybe you're working on the next ubert well thank you Braintree I happen to be to it maybe you're working on the next uber the next Airbnb or github then why not use the same simple payment solution that helps those guys do what they do on your app Braintree makes mobile payments so fast easy and seamless it's almost magical edit to your app with just a few lines of code and you're set to accept all kinds of payments Apple pay Android pay paypal venmo credit cards and even the elusive Bitcoin and if there's another freaking way you can pay down the road guess what Braintree is probably going to figure out a way to accept that as well their payments are fast and continuous support means you'll always be ready whether you're earning your first dollar or you're 100 billion so head on over to Braintree payments calm / seen it you want to get involved you want to check out what these guys have to offer in terms of mobile payment solutions don't wait Braintree payments calm / cnet hey welcome back to the 404 show don't worry we're not interested in your social security number we don't want it no we already have it we already have it that's the contract you agreed to by downloading the podcast yeah I want to talk about Spotify yeah quickly you put this year in my Spotify judging us it's judging me for example uh we had shining cook on a couple weeks ago and she obviously played us a lot of music mostly music I really enjoyed she had a really good playlist I know I have to justin bieber stuff i went like half maybe some of the yeah so apparently i might taste kind of bounced around a bit I want kind of run the gamut but I've been listening to the Spotify discover pie OS which I think updates weekly and it's essentially like you know just here's a bunch of music you're probably going to enjoy and I almost consistent i would say ninety five percent of songs i really really dig so it's clearly their algorithm is pretty on point I think you're just what it's good you just love everything yeah easily your sonic sonic Lee speaking you're easily entertained aren't you Russ I might be I never occurred to me and are you allowing your musical taste well I was just really humbled because I was listening all this music I like and suddenly sting came on but it was oh yeah I love the police i'm a huge fan of the place i'm sure that's why he was on there but it wasn't a police on Jeff it wasn't it was that if you walk in fields of volley it was post police when you called you know such an old man pop that I wanted to jump off out of my window and just end it all right there wow it was just laying did that sting did that with that song and I just don't like Spotify no one wants to hear sting because that's what that's telling me is like you have terrible taste you have the most generic like blah taste imaginable that you could walk into a CVS and hear the same playlist and not be surprised like it's playing on the on the overhead speakers oh man now did it I was really upset I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt they're usually very very good like it's not human controlled it's just a robot I know and the robot thinks I'm like a 65 year old man wandering the aisles of CVS maybe you shouldn't click like on uh Oh No yeah someone else's songs it I mean look the police are great yeah you could understand like why it would be like oh maybe he'll like maybe we'll just sneak sting in their stings been asking for a few more places I can't thumbs down it though that's the problem I don't know I just wanted to tell them like no not acceptable we can't exit out or do something think so and even if I did I'd be worried that it would remove all the other police stuff hmm interesting I'm an old man uh speaking of old man I don't know how we're gonna segue in there is no wait a sec uh this is not an old man topic whatsoever we're gonna talk about product cons game of the week on for four sho what is it this week Russ yeah so as you all know i work at product hunt you can visit product hunt calm / games you know can i interject for just the second shore keep getting these emails from product on about like oh awesome podcast you should listen to and I'm like well shit ah well shit one of their one of the big product hunt guises on a pod yeah well I wanted to mention we actually just launched a podcast category yesterday yesterday so I wanted to make sure that things launch smoothly before I introduced our podcasting thing but it's actually pretty cool if you like podcasts you always lie to your friend like that yes if you like podcast it's episode specific so it's not like people are like recommending the shown just show in general they would for example recommend the episode where justin gets lost in the woods which is class everyone knows classic so if you have any favorite four or four episodes and want to submit them obviously please feel free that is product on calm / podcasts I believe podcasts or podcast I think it's podcast with an S yes it is and just went there and there's some good stuff on there I definitely submit yourself I being you know in charge of the game section brought a game today and it is space team did you ever play space team on your mobile phone uh no based he was an awesome mobile phone game that I really would recommend for anyone essentially it's a multiplayer game where four people are holding their phones and on your phone you're given very explicit directions like turn the flu boob or it's like they use a lot of gibberish around you like that and on someone else's phone is the flu group flew before so you're constantly shouting back and forth directions for other people so how do they do that it's networked is it now worked or is it just like use this code and you're in I mean they're networked they're good they're connected to it so you don't but I don't think you need to be on the same Wi-Fi I think you could probably connect directly via bluetooth okay and it's a great multiplayer game you know your it's like a lot of shouting and chaos but it's great for non gamers it's either very cheap or free and then they just funded a card for a card game version of it on Kickstarter raised about 70 grand and the team was on product time answering some questions on our live chat but if you dig space team or are curious about it download the mobile game and then check out the card game on product on it is really slick that's great arm and stuff it's it's a really cool idea how many people can you play with on the mobile game I think it caps out it's six I want to say it might be four but i think it's six and the card game i believe is four to six as well and the card game is infinity infinity it just keeps going so if you like yeah multiplayer games kind of a good game if you have a bunch of non gamers around you're welcome to like kill weekend see their rainy weekend to see game that I wish yeah we didn't do anything like that on this bachelor party I was just that you just shot each other yeah we're just shooting each other with paintballs yeah paintballs I don't know why I adopted a southern accent when I started playing paintball but I just did yeah it seems to fit oh it's it's I don't know what are you trying to say trying to say it's like this trashy thing no I say it's an outdoor activity that uh you know it's like hunting and I kind of associate it's not hunt like hunting it is look uh you know kind of your hunting men yeah for sport it was weird i thought i would be really i didn't play paintball in a while and I thought it was going to be so good because I play a lot of call of duty and I'm pretty good at call of duty sure it doesn't always translate well the tactics translate thank you so these right so the ideas of cover and you know viewing angles stuff like that are very important what doesn't translate is your muscles which are probably very atrophied and I and I was telling before we started recording my quads are so jacked right now yeah I can't I can't even like understand well because it's so much of the time and this is our I hesitate even say this but you know the tactics that you're using in paintball is similar to like a lot of the training regimen that they use in the military because again you're hiding mine cover but you can't just like sit indian-style behind cover no that's not really so you need to be like in a crouched kind of aggressive position and potentially if you're like pinned down by a bunch of people firing in your direction for like a good 10 15 minutes so try crouching for about 15 minutes and then see how your legs are doing after that it's not a pretty scenario and I was sore for about the last time i went was about like a week a week and a half I could like feel it like I couldn't move my right quad is so much worse than my left and then I played ice hockey the next day and it's been days no wasn't because I was like oh it's definitely crouched too much in your knees are bent in the sake but you're not like sure anyway I had a blast I got rocked in the ring finger you know bed and I'd never been shot in the finger with paintball yeah well that's a very specific thing that I do another specific I bled yeah as you can see right here yeah that's gram and the craziest thing was like did it hit your ring no that's the thing if I was wearing my ring if I was wearing my ring are my man good karma for hitting on all the paintball girls took your ring oh I i yes anyway it happened and when after I got hit I in my head I thought oh my fingers gone it's explode or you thought your finger my brain just exploded and then I'm like hey look at it and it's bleeding sure and I'm like I wasn't like a lot is bleeding more than I thought I didn't care but I was like guys not that yeah crazy yeah I was it felt like someone replaced my finger with like an m-80 I just lit it I got shot in the forehead hi there was one point I was so sore from Crouching that I just got frustrated and charged a point of cover just like go for it and one of the guys just stood up behind cover aimed and fired and hit me right in the forehead and the mask covers your eyes obviously you don't want to go blind but the forehead for at least for me was very uncovered and yeah I bled a fair bit out of my head it was pretty awesome yeah that's tragic the I'm the masks we had were covered your forehead but you see you know the rules were like if you get shot but at the pain that the ball doesn't break yeah just get out it doesn't count right which is stupid no I mean that's the only I think that makes sense in the sense that like it's sort of the only official way to determine oh this person got hit it's supposed to be by like you're supposed to say oh I'm out or something grant there's a lot of honor code yeah doesn't always work I was so weak I was shooting a guy sure in my group we had 19 people said plenty people he pink did not break on oh really and like I don't know what the deal yeah he was they happen without God right he wasn't fat but he wasn't skinny and I think the ball I think it was just like husky enough chore we're like him enough Gibby it was like the ball just balls were just like taking it and just sitting on so the last time I went we were it was for a bachelor party we're about eight people and we were paired with some randoms we didn't have enough teams to like fight each other yeah and there were two guys that were to the nines decked in like hardcore military gear like flak jacket just get goggles they had your pieces for like an occasion damn it but there were old guys and they like we're not very good they were like not moving so they got into the scene of it but we're not really good meanwhile this other dude was in no joke flip flops and like a wife beater t-shirt thing and like pajama bottoms I swear to God I was the best and he was outrageous he was so he was doing slide dives to like take people out is amazing and nothing can hit him so you really do need to be that like insane crazy person that like doesn't care for your wellbeing yeah and your your rocket because everyone else is just like hiding behind cover waiting to die I mean yeah it does i play for four hours if there's one thing I learned from this for our session just camp yeah just Camp camping so damn things the way to me all right uh we'll do one weird animal facts that will back then yeah what a hard animal facts hey Russ rustic hey Jeff tell me about this rogue Cal seems that in central New York Jeff made the mistake of thinking this was Manhattan I was like where midtown now we mean central New York upstate there is a fifteen fifteen hundred pound rogue cow that has been eluding capture for months now if you can't catch a cow like no one's ever accused the cow of being fast yes what the hell's going to make it take a trot maybe like seven miles an hour uh yeah maybe you could crawl and catch up with okay but argument's sake you personally catch the cow you're standing next to the cow what do you do to keep the cow and play my a butcher no you're just Jeff so I don't so I don't have the the knowledge but you might have the knowledge you might know what you need to do but you don't have any tools what do i do what would you do I get in the car and I heard it with a car okay you heard it where like the nearest open barn okay so that's seems complicated a little bit oh I would corner him ok but he's outdoors I'm a corner him in a corner bowl feel more like a fence it was that it seems that they've been trying they say they have these things called headlock feeders um that trap a cow while i was eating while he's eating right so they've been trying to use that hasn't been working the cows just sort of kind of devious the police tell the utica observer-dispatch that the 1500 cow 1,500 pound cow has been on the loose for several months effort to identify its owner have been unsuccessful so this guy's up is an odorless cow yeah he probably has an owner but maybe the owner doesn't want a part of him I do kind of wonder do the spots have like the fingerprint thing we're like every cow is unique oh no rust spots on a cow are not QR codes ah sad that's a bummer does the cow have NFC technology within it i feel bad i mean i'm not about to go say I won't eat cows because I do in their delicious yeah but I don't like a cow being treated inhumanely and you know what if this camper got free chur we can't eat him let him go let him go he's like the turkey on Thanksgiving at the White he's pardoned he's pardoned well let him be I I was in a cow rampaging kaveh scenario I was staying up staying Stampede what you said you said rampage well even know it was just a cow that got out of a fence we were upstate New York okay and uh you know this might actually sound familiar because I think you've I've been there all right member with the with the bell he had a bell around a bell resident cuz we were staying at that house with I was like Memorial Day weekend we had a bunch of couples I was fourth of July but you know I same diff and um the cat we were staying next to a farm there's a farm how about cal got out of his pen the cow is legit out he was in our lawn yeah of the house we were staying and I wasn't scared wasn't like I wasn't scared but what was I to do yeah and they're massive creatures right and the farmer was like oh yeah they do that yeah so I guess there's sort of an assumption that they normally come back and this cow did not come back so what's up so what's this cow know right what does he know that's what you truth is out there get to the bottom of it alright everybody that's going to do it for our show thank you so much for listening do us a favor give us a review on iTunes helps us out a great deal and give a little love to our 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