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ahead that's why we're staying the course and we've decided to bring you back thanks for being here buddy my pleasure uh so what's up with you you've had an interesting week it was do not yeah eventful week um I got engaged to be married ladies and gentlemen hey clap it okay I mr. was really just us in the room so I guess I'll clap too otherwise it sounds hot well I want people who are not driving their car yet to clap I where they could be driving like a Google car with us like fancy no driver cards or and you know what I'd let you do it in a golf cart to get those don't are not inherently everyone else has to clock right absolutely okay so you are now part of the club yep you got engaged to your now fiance yeah I'd Alex how did that go for you sir I went rather well we went out to a place called governor's island which is very lovely in New York City oh you take a little fairy timid trip and yeah as a gorgeous saturday and there's a place in governor's island called the hammock grotto which is literally a grotto filled with hammocks did you propose on a hammock I proposed in the hammock grotto but I was not on the hammock when I proposed so was that the plan the whole time well I my initial plan is this a very good view of the city in one part of Governors Island that I thought I was going to do but we're in the hammock rata we're chillin on one of the hammocks and I like look to my left and there's like there's probably like six or seven hammocks in there and I look to my left and there's a woman in a hammock probably 10 feet away with the nicest camera I've ever seen the lens was like a foot law on gorgeous yes our camera what'll end and I'm like seems like I should just do it here and maybe she'll clue into the fact that it's happening and start taking photos of the event okay that's a little presumptuous I mean well look if it didn't happen and she didn't take photos nothing to lose right nothing to lose so roll the dice what happened so I like with her positioning in mind are you like I like waving i know but i did angle myself such that you know I cheated out a little bit towards her and yeah so got down on one knee you did it Alex was in in the hammock sitting down in the hammock and I got down on one knee and thankfully Alex wreaked when I proposed to her oh so she was surprised he was very surprised really she knew i was looking at rings she like borrowed my phone and was like looking at photos of like her nephew and then kept scrolling is like no rings she knew i was looking but she thought I'd just started and it was gonna be six months mmm she was shocked wow that's great yeah so um hmm sorry I need a little a little parched oh no sure it's an emotional no Mike yeah this is crazy I can't believe she she was surprised like that she was shocked and everyone in the hemming grotto turns and like freaks out cuz i think something Horrible's happened and then they see and this she's crying and I'm getting emotional and and and then everyone yes like wasn't very happy neighbor while neighborly applause every meanwhile my ear is listening and yes indeed I hear tons of photos nice i got the woman's email address she reached out to me we got in touch 30 bucks a pop she's sent over the photos and didn't ask for anything we sent her an amazon gift card because we thought that was the least we could do but amazing we have photos of me of proposing and and look the best camera in the world the great camera I want to see that man was it I can show have it right here uh yeah I've got him on my lap no idea check out those so really good and yeah it's a load off it was I didn't expect the second that I got the ring it was like a bomb yeah apart take on my terrified it's gonna get revealed or something and then like you don't want to have that like lame like uh I guess you found it well I guess I'll propose here while you're making dinner like you accidentally find the Christmas present yeah terrible ruins all the thrill so I I was really happy I was able to startle her um and do it into a scream and it was great we got to spend the day you know my other concern is that after you do it you have to do you know you like tons of families the whole diaper the whole thing but at least we're on Governors Island she obviously made phone calls I made phone calls but right after that we were like have a picnic and chill out and it was fantastic really good so I found out from social media yeah I didn't get a call oh that that really so yeah well here's the thing you know people who are listening out there yeah I know where you stand you do in someone's think someone's pecking order I do uh yeah he's already I'm method are totally I do feel bad it was it was basically my grandma my mom and you were gonna be next to my phone died so you know I just couldn't fit it in you were right there I was right i should have wrapped it up with my mom that is my favorite thing to bust balls about congrats you guys are a fantastic couple thank you i'm definitely not freaking out about the actual wedding preparations at all no could not stressful at all I'm so nothing so here's a little advice with some pro tips uh you know I don't have too many because I would I use what you would call hands off yeah during the the planning of our wettest and which is now approaching five years my lord if you can believe that wow salman um yet you know put in exactly what you want okay and that's what you're gonna get out of it sure actually I take that back you're gonna get way more out of it than what you put in because I I mean I don't wanna come off sounding like a dick who's just like oh you're the dude who just didn't give a about the weather wages a cliche which is a cliche and I did give many shits right not just you know I did a few a few shits were given sure and uh you know I was very supportive and that's you gotta be and it's all about it's all about the couple right i shore does she want to be that kind of you know hands-on person do you not give a crap it's all about finding the bow no I think we're both on the same page in terms of like small relatively headache as you plan a party at chili's right are you chose yeah okay applebees would work too um yeah no we just wanna I don't know my my big requirement is I want to not be miserable for a year to be happy for one night that is my number one goal for the wedding preparation perfect goal so we'll see if I can you don't wanna you're not gonna be disappointed good um what you might have been disappointed this week by was primed a prime day is the best thing that ever happened in the internet I kind of love it how just just how goddamn disappointing was amazon prime day it was really funny cuz it was so built up and it like fur I felt like I heard about this thing two weeks in advance that there was gonna be this amazing sale and Amazon created it and not only that it created a rivalry with Walmart yeah well walmart saw the news and was like we gotta do so you guys do something and actually put together some pretty good deals walmart in with like a hundred and seventy dollar iPad Mini or something crazy like that but it turns that maybe hmm it turns out as we all know prime day was a total disaster and so far as like was like earlier it was garbage they were selling garbage it like here's the 16 foot hose for your garden that might have some fork stuck in it and makes and we're going to give you 17 cents happen it was a glorified garage sale yeah people were making a big deal out of there was a copy of borderlands 2 handsome Jack collection on sale and people make a big deal of it it was five dollars off the normal price like you you were not saving any all kinds of money there was also a perfect example from my personal experience uh one of the things so like it was really weird you all the sales and if you don't work the hell we're talking about you just were not on the internet for a couple days but you know amazon have this massive sale they called the prime day they said it was going to be better than Black Friday okay that's a pretty big tall are they say well here's the question did they say bigger or better because I said more sales more sales so that's a very relevant factor yeah because more does not being better but the either way you slice it amazon is not a company that tries to necessarily deceive I mean they're pretty consist and they're not like a a bait-and-switch sort of operation in any respect and you know they had all these you know ever so they they were like these flash sales right so yeah you could get this you could get a vacuum for twenty dollars off but there's only a limited amount of vacuum yes and once they were claimed you had to get into like a virtual waiting list so somebody who put it in their cart never went up checking out they would then go to the next person in line it was a disaster yeah whole thing was robbed so I come across this one are we need a new dust buster okay okay i know we are at the edge of your seat but we needed a new does it a brand name or is that just like the device that's the device i think dust devil i think yeah we got a wii that we were looking so i found this black and decker wonka five stars thousand reviews everyone loves this fantastic flash sale $45 oh great deal regularly 120 wow that's a great deal sign me up sure i'm i'm into it ok i go i don't get it i'm in the wait list okay for it was like 47 bucks i think is what it was going amazing view my god damn it sure i'm gonna get blocked out of this freaking duck a Dustbuster i want it i want bad could taste it so i get blocked out then the thing turns over yeah and the sales over yeah and the price is 49 99 huh prime delivery one day yeah oh i was gonna save two dollars right what the hell what the hell's going on it is sort of funny that like the normal price the amazon price is like so good that the like discounted price is like not that helpful so maybe that's what this was maybe like we were trying to come up with like conspiracy theories as to what the hell this was like who's idea was it why was this a thing I mean it seemed to me like it was just a way to get people signed up for prime right it was just like hey come get prime yeah if you sign up for 30 days you're going to want to be using it are two to three times and you'll realize how awesomely convenient it is and you'll be a member for life yeah so maybe that's what they were going for but either way I so we were saying like one of the conspiracy cases like no no dude they just want you to see how gnarly their prices are to begin uh and that's like this reverse psychological backing you in yeah to the set seems like kind of a roundabout way to do it it does and it pissed off a lot of people in the process because ever because by now most savvy online people is that is that a genre of petoria demographic most of those people have prime or they use prime yeah their prime password of a relative yes something right agreed so just to exactly was this for and a guess maybe was for those you know sort of people who are not prime people I think there are people that like buy stuff off amazon that don't have prime like other people that like don't even think oh this is worth it for me yeah so i think there's a reason for it but you need to like if you're gonna spend this much on marketing a sale and like blowing out and comparing it to by friday have some like top-tier in there like really go all out yeah nuts give me a TV for 35 bucks I mean there were some Kindles I guess they were pretty cheap old no one cares sandals right the paperwhite was not on sale ridiculous yes so it did seem like a big but amazon on amazon they make so much money that i don't know that i care they don't care and I don't really think this is going to be even a bump on their on their road to continuing success we went to Twitter and I said up what was amazon prime day more disappointing then okay that's right so this is so we got it we got like a half a dozen decent responses that i'd like to read here legend of Schaefer says amazon prime day was more disappointing than that one time I family went to Anaheim and we didn't go to this there's a really good subway in and I'm like yeah primo subway that's weird the hell you doing and I'm besides go to Disneyland Jeff arc said amazon prime days more disappointing than Apple maps Paul Santos amazon prime was more disappointing than me according to my overbearing Asian 50 sad but true not bad uh beyond the text says amazon prime day was more disappointing than their fire phone that's pretty good 95 know a lot of these are not so much disappointing as like people like curious and then they came out were just garbage totally Isaac uh Isaac says amazon prime days more disappointing than shopping at Goodwill after a structure fire no that's that's kind of screwed up yeah just wants to do that there's something really everything's all on fire kind of upset about that m e dot d says amazon prime days more disappointing than getting this shitty mcdonalds fry there's always one McDonald's fry the taste like well it looks like too it looks like all like way overcooked chris i haven't had mcdonalds fries in a while are you talking about like the one that looks like a cigarette yeah it's at the bottom it like the weird cracker jack those were weird crack Jack it's the roach of the file yeah that's pretty good um yeah it's uh oh there's ones I can't read I really their illicit this is so weird to this at not a celebrity says I was on prime day was more disappointing than a sad handjob with us okay that was what is a set is as I said hanji like just frowny faces I don't know a calloused hands would be my guess like sandpaper hands yeah that's very hanji i were to extrapolate what the impression was yes Adam Berry says amazon prime day is more disappointing than pi day without a piece of pie no amazon prime day according to taylor is more disappointing than Pacquiao mayweather that's that's that's a good one i think i probably fits a lot and I think we'll finish it oh you know I was going to say that's real good and then tando Gosa will will finish it off for us amazon prime day was more disappointing than sucker punch the movie Sucker Punch yeah I hated that movie and I was very excited about it so good one there we go thanks for participating in that stuff yay Twitter can follow us on twitter at the 404 will try and do some of that stuff going forward we're going to take a break when we come back it's time for us to discuss just what the hell is going on with reddit oh boy big topic of conversation for the last couple weeks a lot of controversy we are reddit fans so we want to know just what the hell is going on with this site why can't they get it together more 404 right after this we all know building a website can be tough have you have you tried to build what I know nothing about building anything 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thing that I check when I wake up in the morning right so that's pretty good I mean that it's not that but I acknowledge how like it's not important but it is I think I probably waste more time on reddit than on any other site so you frequent did a great deal I do all right what has been going on who is reddit groms it's naked your arms mega drums it's not a simple binary situation yeah okay a lot of ins and out there are but let me try to boil down the like a real quick what's been going on so um they had a CEO who was like an interim CEO named Ellen Pao um and she was brought in and people sort of blamed her for making a lot of decisions regarding certain subreddits that she felt well that the site found objectionable and also most recently the person that organized the amas was a very popular section with a interview celebrities Obama and various other people um this woman named Victoria was fired we don't know why still don't know why I really said well I have some peculation but we can go into that in a second she was fired a lot of people blamed the CEO Ellen and there was a lot of hate throwing her way and she basically got ousted very recently got fired from being the CEO and they brought in one of the original co-founders now did she get fired or did she I think officially she really she resigned she was a push down you should pick up and they brought in one of the cofounders of Steve Huffman I believe his name is yeah and he was sort of trying to Harold in a new age of like communication and explaining what their thought processes and so recently he's been doing a lot of posts about like what's objectionable what's not were you know they're redefining what their content rules are like does like this a really awful subreddit that he calls out called raping women which is literally like subreddit is titled raping women debts and and he went out and said okay so this is gonna be a get banned yet there's ready to glare pretty clear thing to get man but then he mentioned so there are other sites this one I don't really want to call them out because they're really like even the titles our eyes awful is raping women but it's their race they're like very race chart racially charged or racist gress subtitles that's subreddits right and he specifically called out those and the delineation that they're making now is that they're going to allow stuff like that so long as those subreddits do not encourage or demand or whatever violence or harassment of other people so you could say I don't like this group of people but you can't say I'm going to kill this group of people yes which seems weird it's like why draw the line there because the rationale is if you don't draw the line somewhere it's a very slippery slope where you start defining what is harassment and what is you know bad and essentially at a certain point like where is that line drawn so but like okay fine sure yeah I'm not look I'm not frequent thing and I know you're not defending that yeah but it is it's a tricky problem it's a tricky problem but as a reddit user yes someone who's been on the site for many many many years I really don't think there's ever just an okay place for that kind of stuff regardless if they're not going after a specific person so you're saying it's good speech right you're saying like stuff that's like I hate black people right ample for what I got why not a place like I'm sure there's a red subreddit that's not too friendly with the Jewish PS okay colletti any race whatever it is whatever it is black white brat whatever you are yeah I do not believe that it is in the best interest of reddit nor does it really embody the philosophy of bastion of free speech or if they continue to allow that kind of stuff okay here's the deal yeah isn't reddit not still a private company it is a private company so why are they bat like battling this short bit while they Pacific's point specifically i think the rationale is a they don't they're worried about their like core moderator centric user base they have all these people that volunteer their free time and they are worried that if they start banning subreddits even the really objectionable crazy ones um they'll lose a lot of that support because they bill are the moderators threatened to leave if they ban I hate all the Jewish people I don't know about that one in particular but it's a better example a bike or example let you know let's just say our / I hate sheep okay okay but that's a good example right so let's say for example you you draw this line you say we don't want hate speech then it's like okay but like what if someone does like I hate you well I hate sheep okay that's see if so if I'm the collective logically a common sensed group of moderators yeah I let that go because contextually it's not offensive to any human being what about I hate left-handed people or I hate gingers is even a better exam so it's not a race but you might take offense that I think is like a lot of integrity I think you need to vet it right I think it needs to be completely sure this impact right a second that there's a lot of interpretation required it becomes something I think they're looking down the road and they're worried about legally what they're responsible for and they it needs to be like a very legally defined terminology for what they allow what they don't allow because they want to at some point start making a lot of money on this site and granted they want to bury the gross subreddits that are racist or what have you but they don't want to risk their fan base or whatever their rationale is but who makes up what what fraction of a percentage makes up the people it's very simple long to I hate cheap it's very small but also then the moderators that's a very small percentage of people that donate their time and the fears that they would wrap riot or something I don't know look it's it's very opaque and it's very tricky and I certainly wouldn't use reddit to go to like races there whatever subreddits is not how I want to spend my time I think they're just worried of you know once you become a morality police at a certain point like that's a lot of time and effort that has to go into that and you're constantly you know wacom bowling these offensive subreddits and you know definitions of what's offensive changes all the time so by having this very clear-cut do you threaten violence or do you threaten harm on these people is the determination for for banning something out right now the other ones are labeled I guess objectionable and like siphoned off into a part of the site that like never shows up on the homepage never shows up unless you actively search for it so that's sort of how they're solving the problem but again it's I don't know it's a it's a tricky problem that you know it I mean free speech is a weird thing especially on the Internet yeah and so and so right so now I'm gonna go on like the other side of the fence and say okay people do you have the right to congregate and share that those feel ya they don't have the right to do it on reddit nécessaire like reddit could ban them if they wanted of course one hundred percent but if you want to sort of couch yourself somewhat in a free speech zone or like a free conversation zone you do need to start being a little less stringent you also have to like really tread a fine line when it comes to free speech on the internet because any privately owned website that amendment does not write matter yeah so you have to like say ok well people are open up so there's got to be free speech on reddit well no it's up to reddit whatever the hell they want to do right well the shame of it and we're a lot of the kind of humorous drama came from was because when the new CEO came in he said something along the lines of you know we didn't create read it to be a passion of free speech and then three seconds later someone sort of dug up a an old interview or one of the co-founders said reddit is a batch and frisky or something along those lies and add but out of context I mean look yeah and that was said when reddit was probably dry filled with really good people and a small community no I mean it was two years ago so all right retrospect it was it was right it was right by the yeah yeah you know I mean it's in the difference why those those two things are so different is because at that time read it was sort of a in a position of relative you know removing themselves from making those decisions you know the whole like happening thing it was right around that time and like so they were trying to remove a lot of the coke ability that they had the requirements but you know now these days I mean it's very clear that they're trying to make some money and and monetize a little bit more and at that point you need to search start drawing those lines it's surprising to me that they didn't outright just ban everything I you know there's been rumors that the board said ban ban anything that's remotely objectionable but again this is all especially if I if anything you know even though reddit has four for a number of years been one of the most popular websites on the internet yeah there does seem to be this new awakening like it's going through another metamorphosis yeah I think an age of like awareness yeah thought awareness it's Brits transcending that sort of under the radar mainstream dividing line yeah people real everyone now really does know what about this site and it's starting to get a stigma yes because it has this very heavily male user base which can be construed as you know a sort of sexist situation or misogynistic rather and it's you know you don't want that to be the you know the the sort of byline yeah on the whole reddit fiasco and it's a shame because what like when people when I say to people oh yeah I go on reddit or whatever and they're like oh really that's like gross yeah I do that like and I'm like I'm looking at like cat gifs and memes it's like memes and reading news stories like I think what a lot of people who have never been on the site don't realize is like if you go to the homepage you're not really gonna see anything objection oh oh except for that video the rock breaking his finger that was that was fake really was it fake you oh my god I only batter up on my father that was fake okay one on the rock yet um it looked fake too I mean yeah but like my mind was so flushed with adrenaline yeah I seeing that are just like and you were like man the rock so strong right that nothing hurts it yeah you can laugh this off yeah I believe it yeah it was definitely um yeah what's weird to me is like like I don't want reddit and I'm sure I'm gonna get doxxed for this I don't want reddit to have the same stigma that fortune has like fortunes a very ugly stik it does and yes is there good natured crap going on on fortune I'd sure hate me perhaps but now like you know I I just don't want that to happen but again the Internet is a living organism this happened to dig dig did not go through the political socio sort of cultural issues that read it not going just a redesign and did a redesign its up never was like okay we're I read we're going to because they're doing a better up what do you think reddits here three years from now yeah 100 yeah no question and what like you were talking about percentages like how many some less than one right it's super small and not only that the percentage of people that like care about any of this right also super small like people in my opinion people do not care where this happens yeah right like the content that's on reddit will always seem to manifest itself in some sort of generalized organic gathering spot whether or not it's read it really doesn't matter yeah there's already competitors that are there that are essentially doing the same thing the difference is read it is established and people like the design the simple design and now quick it loads and but who knows like I don't know it would take a major calamity for them to lose the god hundreds of millions of users they have on a daily basis but no I don't see it happening and i'll tell you this call it unfortunate call it whatever you want but this is just the reality of it all in my opinion it will not take a situation like this for people to abandon ship it'll take some sort of functional thing like the what the site it'll does a redesign every design or like where you know and I it's almost sad to say but it's something like this where people will sort of maybe give reddit the benefit of the doubt but then if they then decide to say hey we're monetizing amas and now amas are open for product placement or and endorsements that's when you know the again even if that were to happen I still think the percentage of people that care yeah everything would be more a would be worn less than one it would be more but I honestly like whatever I don't think it's gonna make that much of an impact and when we bring up the less than one percent we reference the people who have been very vocal about yeah and and like if you take example like the people who wanted uh you know who signed that petition to get the CEO booted yeah like less than 1% I'll read it but so like a hundred thousand people yeah which is a lot yeah but first of all in comparison so that's yeah it's dramatic I don't know I liked I still like using site cute cats and various other things what's your favorite sub right so for months for like eight months straight I destiny subreddit was a subreddit I checked literally every day and it was fascinating because we were constantly fighting like crazy cheats and like ways to beat the game in weird ways and and I still go on there just from an interest level standpoint but I don't play destiny anymore so it's less engaging to me and now I mean I'm on aw i'm on oz one of the default yeah i I don't I think destiny might be the only non default really I do like dozens no I don't know you tell me you don't subscribe to our / the 440 know as you probably subscribe to it I go to it a lot I do actually go to it um I've been thinking that I maybe I should make a new account oh why is the old one too much of a shattered pan I don't know I feels like people always make a separate account one that's like the official I yeah that's part of reddits problem but I do go on the floor for subreddit so if you want to say anything to me like it was a very nice post about me doing a good job last week was I was alright yeah I did that that was me as you just as your as your alt name I just want to boost your ego a little bit thank you no no so that yeah I should probably subscribe to it get the subscriber numbers up I see you know I still have questions about reddits functionality and like the the logic that programs the front door the front page yeah like I know there's a default set of subreddits yeah but sometimes like one that isn't a default one will make right yeah how's that work it's interesting like is our / old-school cool like that's not a default so bright so that is that just like well this one really really popped yeah you wonder whether or whether it's something that's like you know these people Trey you know internal people track it and they're like oh this deserves there's got to be something and I think there is a level of moderation and curation that happens sure uh where they sort of say hey r / like are such creepy yeah I love because it's like all ghost stories is that creepy pasta is that the same thing no that's a different so does creepypasta I think are such group of us is just like weird things people see in pasta no no no it's something else is that's what that scary stories or like I confuse that with no snow sleep is another one I do which is not so r / no sleep and given i read their Sarah some of those stories are ex some of them are really good uh so we're just we're talking about subreddits this basically the the you know sort of pieces of the reddit puzzle uh my so what was it creepy is just the ghost stories okay no sleep is scary stories but crew pasta what was it creepypasta be pausing it up now I think it relates to what was that really tall gentleman in the forest what a suit besut did a tall scary guy and the girl murdered someone over it no I'm talking about no skinny man no slender blenders Thunder man Thunderman yeah I think it's related to that huh um it's oh I think okay so it's like a genre of like horror yeah I guess I mean it is scary as well I don't know it's confusing but is confusing but yeah a lot of 45,000 sub subscribers to that one let us know what your favorite subreddit is I would appreciate that mangy 13 yeah keep it pg-13 I'm always on the lookout for for good and new subreddit yeah I'm gonna log in to me I feel like oh I do a lot of like finance stuff like investing oh yeah I'm so glad it was down there to you yeah that's fun there was a pretty good one that was I think edited commercials I don't know what the name of it was but essentially people cutting commercials with like inappropriate scenes not cut into them I love that really good I'm a huge fan of cringe-worthy printer where these greater / thanks worthy just like those things that are just almost unwatchable cuz im so cringe-worthy pretty great yeah so there you have it that's the story with reddit I hope we hope we explain that in a manner that you can understand and now you will sound bright and relevant and in the know when you have your reddit conversation at your social gathering this weekend yeah because that you will be a thrilling person at that party he will be the one they all go to to ask questions brief brief segue I was at a party in Los Angeles actually during e3 we were all drinking at the bar that everyone goes out there to drink at and this random guy came up to me and he's like are you here for the reddit meetup and I was like nope cuz you look like that guy and then he sort of just stuck around for a really long time with and talking and then it just got really weird wait a minute so a random dude rant totally random guy he didn't know that you were you well no he just thought I was a guy at a bar and was like hey you here for the RIT meet up I mean he wasn't like that it wasn't like a bear thing so he so he just thought that's where it was like an e3 reddit meetup no it was just like I think was a like a live reddit meetup huh I've never been to one yeah I heard some story yeah I don't really have a desire I filled yet you don't you don't want to do that now I don't know I'm not gonna tell you how to live your life out there but hey people were meeting people so that's good and as long as everyone's having a good time staying safe and not hurting anyone why the hell not Taemin all right here's a little uh disclosure about our new co-host russ fresh do ah russ has a would you call it which what's what would you call that thing that's wrong with you I probably a disability it's not i do not think it's a disability i honestly think i deserve my own parking spot the only disability that would like you could never fly an airplane is like the disability i could I just probably wouldn't be very good at or they'd be like ah no I think it's actually like a prerequisite like if you are this you're not allowed to fly a plane right but I could I mean yes I could also do things that I shouldn't sure yeah so I'm color blind Oh gasp yeah that's terrifying so yeah I'm carbon red green blue purple colored wine I'm various other colors I don't just see Gray's even though it's fun to pretend that I do to people that I first tell them cover mine so so yeah like these people go like to when you look at the grassroots Luke right so the invariable follow up to finding out them colorblind is trivia on what colors things are in the nearby vicinity like instantly where every instantly what's that you pointed something that scenario has played out probably 30 or 40 times in my life oh and it never gets old brutal yeah so the best way I can sort of describe it is just like it's just sort of dull so since I left so like there's a red chair here I think it's red right that's right that's very much red right but I guess colors are duller to me so sometimes if like a red and a green shade sort of match the shade the lightness of it I I won't be able to differentiate the two I'm sorry blue and purple same way blue purple look alike ok for your just and that's where I really get hung up because it's like how carbine am I in comparison to normal people cuz sometimes they'll be like oh yeah those look alike yeah so like navy and grey for a lot of people look alike right as they do look well so I have a story of when I was in high school and I went and bought a bag like a shoulder bag and I brought it home and my friend laughed at me because it was a bright purple shoulder bag and I thought it was great hahaha that's messed up so yeah uh and so now I have to be very careful so you don't know what purple is I mean I have a concept of it and if something's like deep purple I can see it like it needs to be like a lot of red in the purple for me to see it put you in can you see pink again it needs to be like a deep like if it's like a light pink it might look like a silver to me huh it needs to be like a very deep pink because I'm not seeing the red that's the problem is that if there's like a very little amount of red yeah in those shades I just don't see it it's very weird because there's like a genuine like stalemate when it comes to a colorblind person and someone who can see ya because there's well because you can't explain write this thing but there isn't any more because of this new company that is not sponsoring the show but it sounds like it should because that's a really good lead-in how the hell they do it so this company called an chroma went and made these glasses that apparently color blind people can wear and suddenly you you see the world as if you were not horrible how could that possibly work so the way I understand it is the issue with like my wiring that my wiring is fine internal like the otwell the eyes alone are fine but I'm missing like certain I guess rods or cones or whatever the hell that help differentiate this so they basically just built whatever those things are into the lenses and that allows you to see hmm these colors and they have a bunch of videos I actually saw this video this week of this guy seeing color for the first time and weeping he weeps in this video and it was like really made me question like would I react the same way in the same way that like you see those videos of the deaf person that hears the first time I think it's like ball you're gonna go there like it's crazy like the cochlear implant am I being crazy yes I'll let you know no I don't know because what if i put these guys none it's like a rainbow world you're not freaking blind man still see the world and here the world what if that red chair was like like a dragon a dragon no it doesn't matter because dude all right are you are you I don't know maybe there's a part of my brain that would just explode at the site of actual color you put there's no way to know still possess the sense like you still are able to see and see most colors sure yes even if you saw in black and white okay I would still have way more sympathy for the cochlear implant person sure hearing for the first time I'm not I'm not saying I don't deserve sympathy I the sympathy bright but the fact that you try to compare it again sure I'm sure it's a breathtaking epiphany okay but hearing is probably more dramatic than picking out Barney the Dinosaur yeah he's the the green one great what the dinosaur Yeah right a triceratops but the video is it's touching I mean he's genuinely yeah crying yeah it with joy tears of joy yeah I don't know I would I don't think it would be that impactful to me because I feel like in my brain I can endure like the brightest red imaginable right but maybe I can't have you ever seen like lava yeah and what is that just look like not he's made a pretty red see that so you see I see it but like maybe the real version of lava is slow your letter and bring you to tea it's like crazy red that's so you know I'm saying it's difficult to wrap your head around and also a drag cuz like there's no real benefit apart from like if they reinstated the draft they probably wouldn't take me but even then like I could do paperwork right you're talking about how weird they find room for you out of it here's the deal right if this stuff works so well you're a guy who wears glasses yeah just put that feature into your going right so well the issue right now is the in chroma their their shaded it looks like you're wearing sunglasses okay so figure it out they'll figure it out well they were they actually did a medical test for recently where they injected something into mouse eyes and asked the mouse has asked them out all the hell do they know that's an easy test you basically like put a door the title the red thing to get food ratch the green thing to not and they don't see it dance right yeah so I mean and I asked the facts I no joke if there was like an eye injection thing that I could get to fix it yeah I would definitely do it that's I would definitely do it I wouldn't do it that year it came out the one point over I you wouldn't be the guinea pig but totally yeah like in the same way that like I would prob i'll probably get laser eventually me yeah well that's pretty common yeah but that's what I was like yeah so become common why don't you get the laser scary yeah it's scary the lasers on your eyeballs so I don't know I feel I feel like my face works better with glasses is that weird oh no it's not weird I think that's a that's a product of you becoming more Young's to yourself I think you're right with glasses than without I do like the convenience I will want to be able to lie on my side in the cat on the couch and not have to wear glasses because they kind of press into my head yeah I was the laziest reason I can come up with I just know I can sympathize because I'm now a like post 6pm glasses guy right we're at the less light there is in the world the more I struggle to see ya I have stigmatism sure um I don't even know what that is it's I belong I hear about in contact lens commercials that's it well I believe it's like my eyes just aren't getting the amount of light in that they don't like your eyes are the shape of an egg well mo gotta guys are I believe in when you like squint you're basically bending the shape of your eye sure and that's what helps you see better okay so your free k guys need contact lenses I don't I don't wear contacts I do wear a very low prescription for seeing far away as well I don't know um I think you have to really also what I was saying is like so when I put the 6pm glasses on yeah they're like seasoned well I give them a kiss or something I hate that I hate that like oh like all you need for a kiss and it's like it's like it's like oh yeah sorry trying to hug someone with hats on yes like sorry I've got a mechanical apparatus on my face yeah it's impeding on our cheek kissing yeah you know it's weird its first world problems she kissing first row problems so yeah it's a drag so I would totally work car wine glasses if someone wants to send me the 400 hour in chroma glasses that'd be super cuz I'm not buying yeah let's see we can do that and see if we could get rust to cry on air that seems like a really good investment for your listeners after uh yeah you know it i will i would not i would wait until we're actually recording and try them on on air for the first time that seems like a really good show I'd you're damn straight you'd wait so let's let's make that happen listeners let's make it a reality people yep all right there's a there's a product hunt game there is that deals with color related to this yeah actually we we had so as people may or may not know i work at product on which is sort of a community based site we've products i run the games category on that site and just yesterday we actually had the devs from a game called specimen a game about color in doing an ama on the site and it's actually just design-wise are really cool like it's in a Micra it's set in like a microscope like a petri dish like a petri dish and you're trying to match colors essentially but just just visually it's a very cool you poor guy mobile game but yeah I can't play it I mean all right I just can't like I like the look of it yeah and i was watching my girlfriend play yesterday sorry my fiance I gotta get better at that come on I'll edit that out thank you my fiance was fine yesterday I was like oh yeah that's the game we just had on the site and she's like oh yeah well I you know yeah you definitely can't wait why can't they do like the color blind proof thing where they put like patterns on I mean it would make the game a lot uglier like a very pretty game right now and it just would ruin you you've heard it's a pretty game yeah you've been told a pretty good yes oh alright buddy that's cool it's it's an iphone right now um definitely worth downloading it's free so that's good and I can't play cuz I'm an Android yeah it'll probably come to Android eventually uh you know I'm so sick of this second class citizen crap with an android phone yeah the problem is there's it's so much harder to make money on Android I know that like it's kind of hard to encourage people do it all the way through my games is a lot of free to play games on there right even though there's like arguably more people with android phones yeah more poor people wow wow alright gonna let that one a simmer we'll take one more break get a word from our sponsor for a second and then we'll finish things up with a couple of nerdy conversations we promised more for or for right after this so are 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Lee was Bruce Lee's son died while making the film The Crow yeah very good film worth watching a lot of emo kids dig it because of all the makeup and such it's like how long ago is this now it's gotta be 20 years at this point this was at the time we were two we were like what 1230 yeah around there this I remember this being such a strange story that no one could properly explain right well I think it took a while for the truth to really get out and figure out exactly what happened and I think a lot of people mistakenly know it as well they just put real bullets in instead of blanks and that was it because he got shot on the set while they were shooting some was shooting a blank basically a pistol a time with blanks in it and he got shot while that was going on and killed and people just assume oh they put bullets in it by X which like how would that ever happen well okay so I was reading this post is actually is on reddit and apparently a Dave Brown who is a firearms safety specialist did a QA a while ago on and he basically explained exactly what happened which was so they had a fire on firearms expert on set okay but they were very it was very low budget and they didn't have a lot of money so I didn't realize I was a low-budget movie it was a very low budget of a very limited in terms of scheduling and and what have you so there was a moment at which they wanted to film a close-up of an extra essentially loading a gun this was separate from the scene they're talking about with Brad Brandon Lee and all that stuff just like a close-up of a hand reloading a gun at this point they're trying to get as much as they can done they've already sent the firearms expert home so he's gone oh what they're like well I guess we'll just load it with these bullets real bullets to get the shot so they do that the boat are in their lead him on why are real bullets on set I think they didn't have like maybe he was controlling the blanks or something or they needed to buy blank slate at night or something I don't know cuz that's how huge like sort of curing into this story why in the freaking okay so they say this is in the Q&A he says the production needed some dummy cartridges for a close-up shot of loading a revolver not knowing any better they purchased real cartridges from the local gun store pried off the bullets dumped the gun powder and stuck the bullets back in their case you can't do that well that's what they did so at least they took the Gunpowder out but that wasn't enough so they got they they go through this process they have the guy Prime the gun fire it again there's no gunpowder but there are I guess the primer on the on the bullet ends up pushing one of the bullets like an inch or two down the barrel of the gun so this gun exists it's got this bullet majd in it the gun gets emptied they whatever it's it's completely empty they like check these cylinder there's no bullets in there later they shoot with Brandon Lee they put blanks in it and they'd fire one of the blanks and the explosion from the blank which actually blanks have a lot more gunpowder in them than normal bullets about three times launched the bullet that was in the in the barrel from before out into bradley and that's what killed and he'll die from one bullet he died from the one point is that unbelievable that's so and there's so many moments in that process we're like all someone needs to do is like check the barrel clean the gun how did that so many different moments where that needs to happen and it just didn't it's pretty amazing it took to it was two weeks later that Brandon Lee was shot after this bullet was just sitting in there for two week two weeks later but that's what a crazy and and they even there's even a technique that a lot actor filmmakers use when firing guns even then even when they're loaded with blanks where you don't actually point the gun right at the purse or it's like behind like a bullet right plexi users are you cheated so even though there are blanks and everything you take all precautions because you just never ever ever point a gun at someone unless you're planning on killing them and I almost feel like a lot of gun firing now is like CG yeah well yeah right yeah maybe we'll Don the lower budgets ya know even what yeah you're right probably on like Avengers movies or agents of shield I don't think they're firing blanks I think it's just like they add in some fire effects to the end of the gun or something I mean we don't know a genuine recoil well not really because he's got life you've ever had have you fired a gun before yes okay so if you've ever fired a nine millimeter which in my brain playing video games and stuff I'm like that's a small a lot of kickback yeah there is the other words so I think a lot of people misunderstand that so like the kickback that you see actors use is totally fake yeah because if it was real no one would it be able to fire a pistol with one hand with one hand 10 rounds a minute or whatever right 20 rounds a minute um so clearly they're faking the recoil but yeah it's just kind of a crazy crazy story that I didn't until this week like I always knew yeah there was probably a bullet in the gun but i had no idea how many like fail-safes failed for that to actually happen insurance it's it's really awful but chances are someone probably wanted him to die what if I'm just saying do we that's a freaking twist that seems like a lot of awful things to happen for that to end up knowing and I'm not saying a murder but I'm saying like you know destiny if well all you're saying like divine intervention I'd a bit out of here okay you're joking around I thought for a second you thought this is like conspiracy that I kill Brendan late have some to increase box office numbers on the crow all that I just remember it being such a weird story tragic crazy and so like the craziest part is like each struck him in the chest yeah and it just died yeah and they related i instantly got like 13 hours ever and they released the movie sure like on schedule yeah and how did that work well i think a lot a lot of it was shot a be you know your main actor didn't keep that scene and no no i don't think so it's not like the little person in the background which arise where they have you know like death scene in the movie um but look it was a convenient that their main protagonist is wearing real by the way what that Wizard of Oz things not real well everyone else go yeah go to can't ask anyone now so how do you know go to snow truth died with them yeah no go to snow it's like clearly ass and egg I see I'm always fooled the rock video Wizard of Oz there was another thing too recently I was fooled by you got duped I don't know be surprised i'm easily do it happens under fairly regular basis and that's a new thing try and do paintbrush dick send me videos and I'll see and he'll believe there was something very reason i would i well know literally just today I was watching a video of a kid that stole his bike back you hear what the story where he was like.he like saw on craigs crab bike got stolen he looked on craigslist his bike is on craigslist he calls the guy he sets up a meeting and then steals his bike back when they're at the meeting hit for him to sell the bike it's all fake it's all fake because you're watching that Yuri watch the video and while the videos going on he's on speakerphone with the guy oh and you hear the guy in the other room responding to on speakerphone and then a second later coming through in his phone so the guys literally in the other room and I just didn't notice it until the end it was very embarrassing I'm easily duped easily easily duped um yeah but bread and Lee you know he was wearing a makeup so they probably were able to shoot the rest of it pretty easy yeah it's a tragic tragic story brought in some ICP fan it was a piece of cake there's a good movie though yeah I enjoyed the crow yeah real good so that brings me to the last sort of topical half of the day I I had this idea a while back I don't know maybe it was like a chemically induced idea okay but I like you got dropped in a vat like the Joker yeah and he came out with this I and I was like oh my god I've got a great idea for a video game cool I would love the ability to play some of my all-time favorite action movies okay and play the entire movie as a game okay like now are we talking so when you say that this is what leaps to mind is like one of those don bluth like dragon's lair games or like an F mvgame really not that I do I'm not not saying that I'm saying a great amount of effort in development okay in recreating yeah and I'll use the example of true lies okay already a video game intro for choice but that's irrelevant because I want to do I want to play that movie here I think you could somehow keep the performances of all the actors involved like as FMV video as like motion can you they don't realize that no because it's a flat image you can I was like but you extrapolate but we did like maybe you'd have to scan all the actors okay sure but keep their performances okay fine so you digitally scan them in a day sure and you get them digitized into the the game okay but then I want to be Arnold Schwarzenegger in that okay so here's here I think I get what you're saying and there's so much the reason i bring up True Lies is a it's like this hilarious and hashing comedy awesome games cameras best and uh you know there's so much diverse action yes and like think about like the horse chase motorcycle seem like that would be so much fun to play sure and I'm talking and I'm not saying like I want it shot for shot the movie right but I want like I wanted to be game over if I like fall off the trailer guy but that seems that Mike like are we not talking kind of like essentially Goldeneye I me not talking about the same thing that video game a video game is it I don't remember using that's it's very good it's and it's like and it's very close eye line I mean seen to see in pretty close to what goes on I thought we're talking about I mean in the sense of Golden Age you're talking about a golden I you're talking about a movie that's like 20 years old sure we're on nintendo 64 yeah we're now you could really have fun in and give it the the the the game adaptation it deserves and I mean people love that game totally you know it's going to garbage now go back by yeah it doesn't hold up but what I'm saying like yeah let's let me do that it's a bad idea I've decided your ideas bad here's the prob were like die hard okay great great example diehards a great example the problem what you're talking about is like a very because because these games would need to follow a very strict and they be short format and they'd be short which maybe is good maybe it's good but the problem is it's so limiting in terms of a few things one development of the game because the film needs to be shot so are you talking about releasing this day and date with the film no now classics classics you're only talking about fine like finally so yes John McClane but like okay it was always intended you're fighting the long-haired blonde german dude yeah eventually gets hung by the chain yeah he's like shooting down at you with the lights terug awesome assault rifle yeah are you following the exact footsteps where John McCain stepped look first of all it's McLean mcclain John ok John became the war I McCain did no no because that's impossible because then you just like on Rails chair sucks right so no you're you're each scene yeah you maybe you like work this is this is an evolving okay i really i think it out we're talking it out is evolving shitty idea continues weird i'm trying to take it from to like okay a flower sure okay so right now it's diarrhea and I want to be like something you'd want to put something on the better on the scale yeah the poops go right yeah uh so let's say no okay you you then are given like the scene by scene treatment sure where I guess they take out some of the fodder in the in the middle getting out of like na kotoba getting show like I don't need to see that okay you know is his name not gonna tell me or not tell me towers yeah but with the guy that gets shot hit her boss I think that's a fair assumption but may not be right okay I would not be upset with you sure if you were wrong okay um are we taking out Carl Winslow scenes yeah like that exposition it seems like a mistake it seems like you don't need that in them going to like they can mean store and then hearing and then walking outside and looking at the building in the distant maybe that's like the opening pro like maybe you then play Carl okay and you have to get to na koto meet our and like a body falls on his car and he backs up screaming yeah like easy this is the issue is that all of these moments like our coach just reversing a car is not interesting for a game now if you're I'm gonna paint you a die-hard game that I would be totally into playing yeah but so like so maybe what I'm getting it okay is what you're about to say okay so what I'm thinking of for a dire game and you need you can't follow the part of the movie because it does not work in Game four being an interesting modern game imagine this instead all of Nakatomi Plaza has been taken over picture it like an open world game set in a skyscraper and you're slowly but surely making your way through the skyscraper picking off guys finding whatever notes from Hans Gruber as he's practicing a better wish I said why would he leave notes around knock to tell like recordings of like him trying different accents to see what's going to be most fooling you yeah that seems like a game yet because but that's also like it's it's limited to the skyscraper that's why it works sure has this like but later I rock is limited to a rapture other levels yeah yeah buts though I like wandering the cafeteria or sings like True Lies doesn't have that okay but true lies a really good example because it also doesn't really jive with video game like the way you make a video game because the most video games are made with the core gameplay in mind so the core gameplay in Need for Speed is driving right or whether it's like or platformer where discovers writer based shooting winner and the second that you have they call an exotic gameplay right and the second you have something that's like Oh totally different from the normal game place a lot of work totally be a sort of start from scratch so the second that you're talking about a movie like True Lies you need racing you need shooting mechanics lying any flying iving you need a motion shooting where horse riding you drop the machine gun down the stairs like should be so much fun but it's just it could never happen it could never and also I don't like the game's over in like two hours and I don't think it would be that engaging digit essentially it's as engaging as like like a times was that time cop what is the the shooting game in the arcades and the movie theaters now time time crisis crisis time cross like as engaging it's like a time Christian which is fun for a little while I there's a way I've been there I think there's a way to do it I think you may be I think the answer would not be like let's turn True Lies into like let's let people play the classic True Lies angry I think maybe you uh the movie rather I think you like turn the movie into an extended story yeah that bet that still touches on everything the movie did sure it would be like what it would be the first person it would be like third person shooter imagine a game like red dead redemption which people love by calling that the good the bad and the ugly which caused from a lot of the same idea open world I want the linear experience okay you want to live I don't I think first for if you're telling if you're if the if the if the angle to this is you're getting to play your favorite classic movie yeah your diehard your True Lies your what have you I think you have to make it linear because your honor and the expedition a try there for so many years and just no one can hear ya better garbage look like so uncharted ya could be a movie first yes we're like he is hunting down these exotic treasure yeah and there's like plot points in those game yet that seemed to mirror surface level action-adventure games yeah in action adventure movies yes that's true because right fired by like Indiana Jones exactly so I feel like you could they have done it in reverse right where they've like created this Hollywood blockbuster yeah but they made so many changes to it to make it more of a like to make it a game it just doesn't work you guys do a one to one yeah so your idea is terrible it's not in in in spirit yeah and it's in a good place it comes from a good place I believe that your heart is pure Jeff yeah that's really all that matters and that's it so if I were to pick one I'd say failure to launch maybe the matthew mcconaughey movie i think could be really good I was thinking all the way I was thinking mean girls mean girls could be really good Lindsay could come back and provide voice I'm sure she's not doing anything else haha um monkey bone man beetlejuice I would play a beatlejuice game just watched it this weekend again for the 16-time so what do you like when you watch a movie like that do you sit down and turn it on well ours never seen it already so right we talked about yeah she's she's definitely we're experiencing a lot of movies for her first time together it's fantastic well I would imagine the the marriage is on the condition yeah that shall we when we actually went to the tim burton show me the danny elfman show she surprised me with tickets actually like right after i saw you last week yeah so that was really great I heard that was awesome oh my god the show was amazing and Betelgeuse is a start finished perfect movie it's amazing like I didn't remember enjoying it it is perfect the the production design is perfect the art direction is the descrip the jokes every sing ah and the performances are stellar yeah amazing although that guy is a pedophile now so it sort of tainted a little bit ok so I'm not about to go ahead and defend Jeff oh no yeah I don't as he been on the show no I don't know his whole story like I don't know if he's a pedophile yeah I don't know if he was ever bad was he ever convicted I think so yeah all right obviously I'm not gonna defend him if he is a bad situation if he's like in jail or was convicted or anything like that I don't want to search him because I'm worried about Lisa me Wow all right so where did he get his legs not that we should be laughing at what he's guilty for but if you don't even feel comfortable searching him clearly his legacy is tainted yeah we're talking about Rooney from Ferris Bueller's Day Off are you our Laguna i'm looking it up because an AP news wire story what's his deal arrested for alleged sex acts with a minor oh god okay that's no good not good corey feldman quote from corey feldman calling out Jeffrey Jones oh Sh ever good well some of the little more credibility me but here's one yeah okay this is a bad it's a yeah anyway i wanna i want to end on that i want to end on that but go see beetlejuice if you have my god it's spectacular it's yeah it's on you know xbox video and all the bright hi tunes i'm sure yeah it's big and you can get it for like three hours to rent I like told me I think I have the blu-ray that tomorrow's that moves a good all right we're gonna have to say goodbye on that note have a fantastic weekend ladies and gentlemen 866 404 cnet do not be afraid to call give us your what was amazon prime table more disappointing then I want those I want more of those try and stump oh yeah we want subreddits to try and stump fresh dick not-not-not stump you trying what what we were saying Oh try and fool you oh yeah fool me with hoax videos right not be a hoe and but you gotta send of right yeah it just sent hoaxes right cuz that's that's a dead guess we gave although i don't know given your reputation you might believe all right yeah and then your favorite subreddits yeah uh reach out to us the 404 @ cnet.com we're back here next week with a brand new show what's that we should also remind the listeners if you dig what we're doing alright raid us on iTunes really helpful for the ranking system that they use definitely will get more listeners and then you can join them in a party where everyone in the world is listening to the 404 and if you haven't already subscribed because I can get the show automatically you don't even have to download it and click links which I know is a pain in the butt and if things get real good like but no not not the same sort of height at they were in the glory days yeah we'll do like meetups again oh my god meetups yeah I think that would be a discouraging factor for people no no it'd be okay because then everyone will like bump into each other and be like hey you here for the Red it made a good times good times alright have a great weekend we're back here next week until then I'm Jeff bacala I'm rustic this has been the 404 show high tech lowbrow enjoy the weekend have a great time with whatever you're doing