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The 404 - Shanon Cook, new Chromecast, metal's surprising popularity on Spotify, Ep 1630

2015-09-18
hello welcome everyone to the floor for show on this Friday September 18 2015 you've made a great choice and tuning in to the show to my left Russ fresh to how are you sir geoffrey you're doing all right lovely as always always lovely speaking of lovely the lovely and talented Shannon kook on the program today okay what's my talent uh we're gonna my using me you'll see it was a Spotify talent I do and you come with you many gifts of phonic indulgence yes yeah that's probably how you ready describe that yes I bring gift-wrapped songs um how you been it's been a while you say that every time and it hasn't been a bit it's been long enough that you haven't seen us at least two months okay well I'd say it's been about two and a half miles yeah no work got interested I've missed you terribly and you've been cleansing not for to an hour that would probably destroy someone that would emaciated mean you come in what are you cleansing you know you look more than healthy I don't understand why you have to do something like that the chocolate you just gave us was delicious though that was raw chocolate no sugar no dairy wait there's your sugar and that's just like you're ripping it also know is palm sugar that sugar yeah but it's it's acceptable sure it's like saying there's no sugar in juice there's tons of sugar yes there is but this is this is okay shut up and it's in small amounts so what was the impetus for you saying okay we're on impetus cleanse yourself of the wood please claw well I do this cleanse once a year and it's it's called the clean cleanse its associated with the book clean by dr. Junger it's a great book and itself it's a cleanse for busy people well it's not it's not like a juice fast where Europe so you know deprived of energy throughout the day that you're you're hanging out for the next tues you you actually eat a lot of food you just have to stick to a list of acceptable so what's like a typical meal for you well you could have for lunch you can have a big one lunch and lunch will be say one protein like meat okay they stabilize the size of the chicken who can just eat a job I mean they say it shouldn't be the bigger than your fist but I actually what if I eat really a whole chicken the other day you had a whole I have a big fist there you go yeah um no I didn't you know that isn't always so hungry um no a bit like vegetables quinoa brown rice and for lunch and dinner you have these really dense shakes or uh that's like lots of coconut oil and avocado and in this protein I guess well then they have there's a powder that comes with it you guys are way too interesting because well first i wanted it was like why because it I drink so much the rest of the time yes and I you know I make not so great choices a lot of the time like we all do and this is just a chance to give your body a press it's a reboot it's a reboot and give your liver a little bit of a cleanse can you go back to drinking like a series their science behind this is there like up there like a graph I could look at where it's like or a chart were like people who do the cleanse live a better and healthy life compared to people who don't cleanse like because that's the only reason I'm gonna do I mean there are people who don't believe in cleanses and unless you've done them and you feel the benefits like for me I just get so much energy yeah I feel better I wake up naturally I don't need the alarm clock i have this Ruthie's really deep sleep that's not the cleanse didn't know it is it is because if I drink a glass of wine before i go to bed my husband literally has to like clap ease can do it it's my space to wait man essentially what you're doing but the cleanse i wake up at six o'clock every morning and I jump out of bed and I'm ready for the day and I just feel great here's my I feel good yeah and I don't think I could ever do a cleanse and the big problem is if I don't eat something like reasonably substantial every three hours and I turn into an asshole yes but you and that happens to me too but this is the great thing about this cleanses you can eat if you hungry eat something right even if you're between meals such as they are you can have a bowl of brown rice if you're really really that's not gonna turn me not dress have a juice have another smoothie sounds like you're on a diet like it doesn't sound like a close of shakes for dinner and breakfast that is a little cleanse e Ramses you're not she's like chicken and a shake it just like mix the chicken in no but if you're if you if it lunch you eat your chicken and your veggies yeah your quinoa row whatever you're having if you're still hungry then you have some kind of snack you could have a smoothie or it what else but no like piece of real chocolate you can't have one are you good no sugar no dairy duh I i think the no sugar is a great idea i no sugars bed and I can't there is too there is bad for you yeah there is that better human is so awesome oh geez but that's the other thing about this cleanses you're also taking supplements you're taking vitamins and stuff that you actually don't have any cravings because you're everything your body needs nutritionally yeah you're getting okay well you're on this cleanse and that's why it's a good cleanse for busy people because you're you nourish and you can actually still function I don't want to spend too much time on it boy thanks that's why I know this is very important if I like just latex would anyone like some more chocolate maybe at the end of the show I also can you send me like the list I want to look at as you can yeah I want to see this no you don't like pay a subscription to something right you're not like getting like oh no all right pyramid schemes not like a consciousness all by yourself if you wanted to ah the key with only a quinoa I'm just never doing I'm not gonna get on board with that shit don't get on board it doesn't make sure not a vegetarian cleanse like some basically you can't eat me this this particular way of eating they think we should be eating mate say alright well let us cleanse ourselves of this topic you belong Shannon it's always a pleasure when you're here because we learn about the latest brightest stars in the world of music as well as popular trends on Spotify and before we start playing the music I want to talk about a little piece of news that I'm not sure you know about but it's out there we got talk about it cuz it's a big deal in two weeks google is having an event uh have you heard about this event I've had a little bit you probably have in San Francisco and they're gonna announce well they're gonna announce their new phones and whatnot but they're also gonna talk about Spotify joining chromecast did you know about that I've heard little bits about this yeah and I'm not I'm putting you on the spot because we're not expecting you to have the whole section right put me on the spot about what I'm eating but it'll be on this photo bombing my company about your company but this is really exciting because for a while there will up until you know a couple weeks there's no real support for that and I think people are super psyched because chromecast is one of those little things that you bring around anywhere and to have spotify launching with that it's going to be pretty rad I'm pretty psyched for this personally i do not own a chromecast but i am planning on getting a new one when this one comes out so I'm psyched yeah good so am i because I live with a Googler oh that's right Warren this is like a real incest wait this happened within the house yeah what's this I see you riskin see your house so to speak oh Shannon started this thing yeah it's me Daniel my Daniel not Daniel work Oh Rima he know all right this is cool though because like I use Spotify with my playstation 4 when I'm playing games all the time like I love it great just I don't want to listen to like the same game music over and over again I listen to Justin Bieber instead it's lovely yeah um but this is cool because you know it's obviously much more plug and play and like fix it fits in a pocket presumably is it a new model of chromecast Jeff I believe it is a new piece of hardware do it's as tiny or color but it's gonna be an hdmi dongle II sort of thing and I know Shannon you can't sit here and talk crap on other streaming music services but I'll do that for you okay because I've checked out that other one and I'm not doing this again I'm not doing this to shill for you don't think you can be that vague there are like four or five talking about the big one thing okay the big talk about the big one yep all right the one with doctors involved yes understood all right look I'm not like i said i'm not here to chill no money changes and here we're being a genuine or fluids or fluids well the show is young um yeah I I used it on my dad's phone and oh my god it's a disaster yeah that's what I think I haven't used it you have a new ZM yeah I have amused at you neither i've seen demos I've watched other people use it I haven't tried it myself it's a little too busy and confusing for my taste anyway we're my house is a spotify house um but uh but yeah that that's the direction I think this stuff needs to go and it needs to have more compatibility with other kinds of devices like chromecast I'm psyched to see where that goes so just a little PSA for our listeners very cool new chromecast coming with Spotify in a couple weeks all right let's get to the music yes well yeah we kind of like a rated lists do you have burst for us well I want to talk you brought up mr. r us yeah Justin Bieber and I think you brought up Justin Bieber in a jokey way or you are trying to be self-deprecating or I do you actually listen to be boom not playing nah I do sometimes by accident cuz i'm very lazy when i was in to spotify and this is true i do was a spotify pretty regularly but i'm very lazy so often just like open it and just like put whatever the playlist the top is yeah so I'm like really well versed in like pop music way more than I've ever been just because I'm so lazy and I don't want to go searching for job via slee mr. Bieber is in that mix of pop music we're not about to play that are we oh no no I I'm doing this just to piss you off yet but I've got things things coming around its gonna be thank you happy um Justin Bieber is having a real moment and what does that mean be crying I remember he cry right he cried at the VMAs but here I actually really like Justin Bieber at the moment because he I think for the first time in his career is making really great music uh and he's being introduced to live news like myself who in the past would have been me wrong I'm not a believer we need you bad boys more often but go on was it the face no it was a great American like cartoon voice is fantastic coming from the Aussie um no he his song what do you mean he's his newest single coming for it he has an album coming out in November it's our number one song globally that's and it's our number one song in the US it went it in its week of release it broke a record set a record for the most streams in its first week it was streamed 41 million times it's now it's now almost at 90 million what um what do you mean it's a great song it's a beautiful eyes are called what do you mean is it just like when anyone know that you like one of those emoji in the title that's probably the sentence he says most in life though what do you mean well he doesn't say what do you mean he says what do you mean and I'm playing it right now but you can't well it's thank you that's you're not acknowledging Justin Bieber filter yeah that's not know what do you you can't have this justin what do you mean did I like the music but I find his vocals really aggravating just cuz I know the guy is it just because you know it's just cuz i know it just me even when I pictured to be Kate McKinnon from sarah and i'm i still can't get but the music is good i like to music well he's gone in a I mean he's tried everything in the pasta I'm not gonna say he hasn't paired up with sort of a and tried and EDM sound but this is a new EDM electronic dance music direction that is appealing to a lot of people like down tempo and yes vocals kind of understated he's not wailing like a prepubescent child you look like you're trying to give it a good go Jeff I'm like gearless college try Megan huh sure thing I guess is little bit of trouble yeah it's so produced in like it's like dude you sing man and only is just singing this but that he's a freaking drummer to write like god forbid you put a band together and you sing like this over that I'll listen to that right oh no is that i like i like the music but yeah I like music too and it's not your suggest it's not your thing Jeff no roster studies but the vocals is I just my image engineer us I uncle pandering no but I'm sure you'll play stuff I absolutely hate okay i am now playing a song called where are you now which was one of our biggest songs over the summer is him this is a collaboration between bieber and Skrillex you play I've heard this one and Jack you and the U is spelled like the funny of course dome loud what this is the similar thing it's like a bit of an EDM it's like EDM emo yeah it does a really cool thing in a minute go give it a chance where's Skrillex coming in in all this tell me you give it a chance just wait yeah we wait for the course does it drop whoa is that it that's not a bit of it that is a cool sound instrumental playing bogard Olivia what you need you well the intro is going on alright alright I get ya like I like guitar I like it I like this song more than the first one its depths Jeff Japanese chocolate okay so here's the deal with like this kind of music it's not what's the deal dubstep right but it's like it's a it's an evolution of it anyway right more palpable dubstep to me it's like always trying to jam a square peg in a round hole right like that's what that sounds like to me where it's like this shouldn't write pleasing to your ears but you're gonna convince yourself it is mostly cuz you're on MDMA fight because Molly will do that to a person look I don't know I am very open I wouldn't know I'm on a cleanse when I just said that I realized how full of shit that must have sounded but I will listen to anything once i will give anything a shot and I understand music like I don't look down like I don't really like country a great deal but like everything else I could kind of like understand right yeah and this to me is just like I don't know it's just not like a super awesome evolution of that stuff to me it's not but there's something I don't like over-the-top highly produced this well this is why I think this is dwell it but it's also kind of understated it's not in your face like you said it all it's not really grating like no one's like turn that down yeah right all right you know what this is though this is I don't think anyone could like like I'm gonna listen to music and I'm gonna like chill out in a chair and listen this is like w hotel lobby music yes thank all very Las Vegas horrible it's good i like i like the music but it doesn't I don't it's like back see if I was in that setting if I was in the w hotel and I'm sitting in the lobby and hear this I would want to drink my break the quiz oh no this is designed to make you want to buy a drink yeah like that's what this musics about like something's gonna be bought yeah I like this part to me like somebody left two songs playing at once my and they're like they're like record that shit anyway look you know what I like I'll give you this I like that downtown song now you want to know what is you want to know why why I bet you didn't know this miss Spotify why maybe you did maybe you don't the guy foxy shazam oh wow well there we are you got her she all right I'm sorry I'm sorry Nelly this is really built yeah I love this song so I'm mad about it Sam though like a little bit dude this step that's the stuff that's where it's at I don't think I've heard this song oh this is great to the moped store except fuck this song has everything a bit of everything I have a question Mariah Macklemore and Ryan Lewis Oh heard the start of the vmas recently I don't know how like why did they steal my guy from this band like that babe wins today we're fans and he's great they have picked him out but now the not a bully went no no it's all about the dude who is amazing voice is sick skinny little bendy guy yeah we've seen him live a few times really I bet that's a function he eats a lot of cigarettes on stage hee hee funk yes yes he's not interested i skip ahead to where we might hear ya a little Freddie Mercury is getting imperative you no people I love him that's why and that's what stuff at jeffs talking out when you compare that Justin Bieber who doesn't really feel like he has a motion when he says this guy can belt and he can do it lie and you feel it like you can sense it in the way he's singing at least that's my mother for me for this song but it's all about the course yes like this song's nothing without that chorus arm so I guess we can like jumped around a little bit is needs an ally right yep he fronted a band called foxy shazam uh like a like a glam ish sort of i just used to describe them as reverb in the darkness yeah there's like the darkness net queen okay now they're pretty yeah they're right I guess but it's like that sort of love child became foxy shazam and there's a band like you'd see live and like they've got horns and a keyboard and the guy the guy playing keyboard would like crowd surf with his keyboard play keyboard like on your head that's at I've never been to a show like a foxy shazam where did you see them saw them in the stone pony in asbury park new jersey when that was like two years ago I got into foxy shazam maybe like five years ago and they had released a couple records and the record they put out before the one that they ended their career on called the Church of rock and roll is like a front to back fantastic album I mean it's unbelievable well um Eric Nelly has said in an interview that he actually did like Ryan and Macklemore did or did not he did yeah Macklemore and Ryan Lewis I think I just totally mishmash their names it's the cleanse the clinical and has an effect on brain power um no but he used to said that he would go jogging to their music so when they called him and said we love you we love foxy shazam will you do this vocal for us he was like bah yes yeah obviously I like money if you but he's awesome and I haven't thought we been making a lot of it with foxy and now he's getting all this attention and if you watch the music video I don't know you it is very he's riding like a chariot down the streets of downtown LA and it is very Freddie Mercury like he even looks a little bit like don't ya maybe he's dining himself like he it looked he looks a little this is gonna sound crazy but he looks a little like the guy fawkes like the V for Vendetta guy where he has this like wiry and mustache and reigns freckles on he paints them yeah I think he does but there's a guy random and why would you write odd I'm not gonna say he definitively does that but I think there's like a part of that that seems real he's just making shit up for us oh I've seen I'm gonna stop making some stuff yeah well I'm not I'm not taking that much of a Liberty with his styling right he he's just this amazing prayer has this amazing prayer presence and his stage presence is unbelievable yes does he like an entire pack of cigarettes at the end of a show and eat them all I seen him do that it's okay it's weird I was like I'll make sure he has kids to yes be eating cigarettes I was like your singer that's your that's your bread and butter eating fine if they were closed would that be okay is that like more of the cleanse I don't know the little veggie for you but foxy she's you wanna play foxy shazam song real quick pressures on um there's a song called holy touch okay so so the theme of that record that album called the Church of rock and roll was like very gospel and mostly about um African I'm african-american women's butts that's a big part of that shirt as well but uh but yeah they did a lot of cool stuff here his voice is pretty fantastic here's a picture okay yeah yeah I did the Queen it's the boys very me CNN you hear ya and these old wiry on seems like I see me fladeboe man Guinea and bandy like during the vmas when they open the show he literally just throws him down today and then bounce right back up and the whole horn stuff and like the / cut it's a really good band anyway that's foxy shazam in a nutshell man all he's having a good time in social situations I feel like he's gonna go and do his own thing now I feel like we got voice in that in that exposure that he just got right maybe who knows unlike in this day and age i J I need more like I remember when they won the band broke up my wife was like what I I need him I need his voice to compare yeah and then we were watching the vmas and I'm like is that the foxy shazam yeah who's he doing there it was really surreal I want to play I want to move on to the libertines okay right great song I don't know if you're Libertines fan I actually thought the libertines were done yeah and they sort of were for about 10 years okay what it was there hit like what would I know them um well they're 2002 album was kind of big hang on i'm looking up I feel like const a me now was their biggest hit weren't they in their busy I don't know maybe a movie I mean they're they're the lead the lead guy Pete Doherty I always want to say Dodi cuz of the way it's felt but apparently you say doggity oh really Joel Evie told me that huh he would not believe him he would know he's been in on in and out of rehab more times than I've been in and out of a hair salon which is a lot I mean look at this hair look at the air just don't wake up like that I don't um this is constant yeah yeah anyway they're back they're back in business um apparently the heroin addictions have been all suppressed okay oh so they say and um they've released his album which came out last week and their new song is called Gunga Din okay he's really cool I want you to hear already like it like a ska thing going like a reggae ish kind of thing yeah and justin bieber's about to say shine spotify to my chagrin I'm getting sick and tired of feeling sick and tired I again but try to ride cuz i've got the ride yes yeah clash a little bit of class you're there same energy to be funny chemist umpire i woke up again the Ganga Oh Jan I think you did it I think you did it what happened then gonna like listen to this I said listen to this totally check out the whole album what's not to like what's the route what's the album call it's cold anthems for doomed youth that's a little bleak is a little Blake so is that line in the song Holy Mary I wake up in the mirrors fuckin ugly art can't censor art so let's talk about a now that we've actually got you excited for a change but Russ we're gonna we're gonna ride this Jeff happy but happy way not gonna last long well it is can we ride the wave after a commercial oh my god it was a man not a boner killer I know God apparently yours was raging nine but we got to take a break we'll let the libertines play us out all right back after this more for four rust there's a lot of stuff I gotta do I'm a busy man on a time to micromanage every little task and you're just not capable of our of it look I don't want to admit that I'm incapable of doing a lot of things I need to do but it's true but it's true thankfully there's a service called fiber that is willing and able to connect me to the people that will help me get things done and hopefully for a relatively cheap price nice who's got the time and budget to worry about all these tasks you have fiverr com gives you instant access to millions of creative and professional services from people who love what they do you're going to hire someone who hates what they do no 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what's happening did I use the word pleasure there might have been a verbiage that you did not use that key watch that one out perhaps it's a selfish well I want to talk about metal yeah right which is your wheelhouse right yeah I'd like metal a great deal well finally I want to talk about metal and I would like your help because I'm and I think russell hobbs a little decisions not my milieu either so I am more plastic than I have metal yes so nice nice I don't know much about it however I do know um there's a very smart dude at spotify his name is eliot van buskirk and he crunched all these numbers for us he's got a great name it has he does he does and he's a very very cool guy too he um did this thing and analyzed all the metal listening on Spotify right and determined that there's actually been an increase in the listening of metal music I'm spot a liar there's a god there is a guy thirteen percent jump in what's fan of thirteen percent jump from 2014 22 this year 13 that's it 13 yeah not 30 not significant yeah report that back at the meeting cuz I'm trying to make I feel like there wasn't like a pop metal crossover song that would have increased at that traumatic no no it's it's unclear to me what accounts for that increase but another thing that Elliott determined and I didn't know this there are 91 different genres of metal music Wow 91 seems like they're really good like is that left-handed albino metabolic there's death metal black metal and now I feel like their speed meds nu metal new metal grunge metal stoner metal I feel like what's happening is they're just like really taking every possible you know very item with that very just because I'm a current so just a simple one what is the difference between death metal and black metal uh I I might not even be able to like tell you that like black metal it's all about like theme and style like lyrical theme yeah and style and like the sound like death metal you're really just gonna have like constant screaming okay and it's just very growling vocals yes he can tickets are generally not for anyone it's not for me it's not for anyone I am NOT a death metal thing imma can I am a stoner metal sludge metal progressive metal traditional metal guy i know that stoner metal is on Alice oh that's such a thing or did you make that out you could you stoner metal is a thing oh it didn't make the top 25 he actually Elliot actually laid out the top town oh I'd love to see that subgenres is that on spocom um yeah it's on our insights blog here don't me to send you the link no I can look I got the google here you got the goods yeah yeah um the the number one genre is alternative metal alright so Sycamore what would be a bands from the 90s late disturbed ok right so that to me is like Koopa stank fit into the hell probably that but see to me yeah you're gonna mmm that's you you pretty much speak in black bridge is about something like alternate I don't know just because most metal people don't consider those bands to be metal bands really well and it's interesting because they Lizzie this is what we need you Jeff yeah in this list too and I feel like hard rock I wouldn't think of like van Halen as metal rose it I don't know I know I I think I space maybe I think yet I mean these guys are more hard rock I think metal has the the definition of metal has definitely changed in the last 20 years um you know calling a band like disturbed metal you prolly piss off a lot of people at like a traditional metal show look if you wore a disturbed t-shirt to like I don't know but these are the hot dog obviously these are pops on so that's the reason it's number one it's like these are all they like 90s papa roach's yeah this is nice and early two thousand radio metal yeah sure radio rock like this list puts it I'm just excited that the seventh most popular metal genre is metal know the sub-genre of metal what I am Maiden I in May the visted iron maiden is the example here at the lion mane is actually actually does really well and Spotify what's code is Metallica I mean we we talked about Metallica metallic Metallica is a trait i said metal band I think I'm and I'm checking out this list man number five rap metal that is just Linkin Park see I wouldn't think of linkin park that rock maybe it's I get it you can stretch for me a lot of this is rock metal is more I i can almost metal is like very focused on guitars and guitar solos a lot of metal has like a double kick double bass pedal we're like the drummer is using both feet to make the bass kick sound yeah um that's a lot of that there's like orchestral metal there's like you know we have this like epic game of thrones e sounding sort of metal swords up I'm looking at this list like number six funk metal we've got like really and red hot chili peppers you have read actually there's not a medal now yeah but I wish I could sort of say I understand that you have to like make these you know make these labels and write them sort of thing like my I like a lot of that maybe I like a few bands in that metalcore genre it is sort of weird though because it's like it at this point when you're putting like Quiet Riot and definitely def leppard on this medalist it's I mean the it's such a broad range of music that like I'm kind of not at all surprised that it might jump a little bit from year to year cuz ya at this point you're really including like a lot of different music it's not what I would traditionally think of his many strictly male well let me share another little deal with you around playing any metal work a PDF yeah that's it um hey Elliot um turned out another interesting thing and he he was able to look adorable he was looking at all genres of music to try and determine which type of music has the most loyal fans mmm and actually came up with a formula which it sort of perhaps a loose for me he's like a music scientist she's amazing but i love the data I mean you guys have so much doubt like what people do what they like so it's cool and he's working with echo nest um you know which is always all about data and and finding all kinds of sting stuff out based on listener activity and stuff but he what he did was to determine which genres have the most loyal fans he divided the number of streams each core artist from those honors had and divided them by the number of listeners okay and this was apparently good enough to sure German which I which yeah I think so and anyway metal came out ahead metal fans on Spotify are the most loyal listeners that's pretty awesome insofar as they don't listen to a lot of as many other genres are the most narrow-minded people on the planet well you know oh I would I actually asked my guitar teacher and it's not just metal I think it's music that's fueled by guitars guitar-driven music solos epicness just to attract loyal followers who go back and listen to that music again and again and again right I don't want to like cash more so than other genres like like think about the I don't know like my friend the way my friends listen to music and the way it's so easy on the surface like Spotify to jump around from this to this do so look here's this playlist let me try this it's so easy to try different genres I think we find with metal heads am I allowed to call them that yeah sure they don't care about the other genres right at all yeah it might be that transition is tough to make too because if you listen to metal and like whatever then we pivot into country right that'd be another addition to make or just I'm starting to understand now why you hate every so I crazy jazz no no here's the thing like I am NOT that guy like I'm not the metal I wouldn't call myself a metalhead right I enjoy that genre a great deal I didn't grow up listening to that that I grew up listening to like traditional more like punk rock stuff right where I grew up with like bad religion and bands like that um and then as I got older I was like I need this heavier like I need it to be meaner and heavier and louder what's happening into your life in your life at this time jack I mean this was not recent this is probably like 10 15 years ago yeah where I really lie was just trying to sound like a psych college I know well then it's like he was a teenager in jersey like what else I was really growing up I was uh really into ska and punk rock like I love Scott was huge where I grew up in the on the east coast in jersey new york was like you know ska be asleep like mm-hmm you're really you're up that did I look confused no not at all you're just like really just looked a bit boy you're like that's sad Jeff don't tell us about your musical history thank you are and you know I just kind of like evolved into it and I also there's that side words like the punk rock in the middle and then I also have this thing were like I love eighties music like I'm obsessed like when yeah sure but like any even like from I'll even go before 80s like anything from like haulin oats I love queen not a big haulin oats cakes is amazing tastic I like journey as much as that's over played and beaten to death um you know I love that too I like Phil Collins a lot I love like his greatest hits sort of stuff I love Billy Joel I really like Elton John so there's that which is like a branch out I guess it's just evolved into meat saying what kind of music yeah that had no relation to the other but now yeah yeah so what did you learn from all that um that you're really fucked up I'm worried about you no no no no no all good but it I asked my I played the guitar and I asked my guitar teacher who's this really great teacher called Jimmy rose of course anyway that's his real name is not as not jeans would ever make a field Jimmy Page his first name and that's one way that I'm gonna go with Jim rose well I don't care about his name because he's a he's a fantastic teacher he's he's the best there is and I'm thrilled that he's my teacher but I asked him why he thought music that's really driven by guitars might attract these really loyal listeners and he said can I kind of just read what he said absolutely i'd love to try to impress do the impression Jimmy rose says it better than I do um I had but if I read it in his voice I have to sound pissed off because Shannon hasn't been practiced yes had that he says metal listeners are not casual listeners meaning that not only are they devoted to the bands they love but the music provides them a pulse for their daily activity most guitar players don't make a living by playing guitar they work a day job so they can play at a bar / club at night and that day job probably provides some ample opportunity to have headphones on their ears for most of their day kind of like you Jeff listening to music driven by guitar keeps them on life support until they can blow out come nightfall okay yeah it's a great that's a great way to put it and i only think that's covering like one little section of course that's people who actually do play the guitar yeah I mean I play guitar not very well but I've been playing for on and off for like join me to give you jimmy's number yeah maybe Ozzy he's so good he do favors were like I can trade him something for guitar lessons no no no why'd you guys get it make our yeah like I'll help him out with like his computer or something anyway um I used to take lessons as well and I learned the general like basis of you know chords and like the foundational like logic for a guitar can you read music uh no Jimmy will not let you strike a single cord until you can read all right so I learn how to read music I think the foundation for like my understanding of guitar playing is there I don't think that would be a huge jump for me to start to learn how to read music nevertheless he's brandy Jimmy's very picky but I think people high demands yes even if you don't play guitar I still think you can form an appreciation for just what these kinds of metal guitarists are doing right like they do stuff yeah that no one else I don't even play guitar and I watch some of the videos on YouTube my name is like outrageous going on and I think like you know for me it's like I think a metal person who's super loyal almost mirrors the passion that like a Star Wars fan has four star wars where it's like you become this metal geek right and you form such an appreciation and you and you understand that like what these guys and girls are doing is so freaking unbelievable and you know you're probably a little a little bit of a curmudgeon because you see like what's popular and you see how like your musical brain can be like well that seems like very producing kind of bullshit yeah it doesn't seem to be like tremendous amounts of talent for some some of popular music so I have this little Club where everyone appreciates the talent and understands how f and hard it is to do stuff like that so it's this you get it right it's like I do and I think it also has a lot to do with the fact that metal musicians keep within the lines of metal music if you look at pop which is far and away the most popular genre yes Spotify hate the word genre but there's no other way I'm could sail a dial type um but you know there's so much crossover within pop they're at a rap artists you know collaborating with pop singers there are um you know R&B bleeds into pop it's just all it's it's all a mishmash and things get thrown under the pop label which could also be under hip-hop or R&B or or what have you or rock even so but we're metal just doesn't jump around it's it's own that's trash East I feel like we need to listen to some metal Jeff I need you to do me a favor sure build a website for me oh just do it it's probably pretty easy right Oh hold on let me just start I can't do it oh well we're done we can't have a website then ah yes yukos now here's the deal all right I know plenty of people who realistically need a website all right it's important you want to get 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prehistoric it was a large elephant like creature with big tusks I'm trying to think like what their most popular song on Spotify Mastodon an ast 0 do n yep I would imagine their most popular song as a song called oblivion that was like their big single I can't find them oh they're there Belva McGann M ay n ms I'm area Mastodon are you feeling nest that I to say it with an Australian accent master master don't totally matches their um and these guys are a relatively mainstream sort of popular metal band yep they're there they stream in the millions their biggest song is the mother lode okay uh I would maybe play I'm sure oblivion is up there yeah yep does well it does well you started that it's a slower kind of song and it's got a really catchy hook that people really dig so weak it does take a look a little bit too like my favorite song rise up to the occasion but you can appreciate the guitar stuff that's going on in here and I think you just I just can't believe I searched for no I think it's coming yeah yeah it might your connection might be dropping here you go okay screaming it's going to say okay streaming well there was an issue briefly but we're good currently the tree there's a buildup so now just think about what's happening right here with four guys playing insurance yeah it's very chanting which you don't hear in metal this is what you don't roll like I don't want to call stone imply something for like it is still more Jam baby metal and clear vocals yeah these guys have been known to get a little screen this is a very accessible massive and I guess we can go through the course because the chorus is really nice it's kind of cool itch yeah totally there's a lot happening with guitars right yeah it's almost affecting my equilibrium you're gonna ask yeah that's it's a catchy hook sketchy how it go it's nice eyes are bleeding why are they that's how I look when I'm really listening um I I'm happy to listen to that I could never see this band I though I just should I can't do the live version i would just be get pissed off after five minutes and I'd be like I have to get that what did I never bring Stacey to a lot what are the issues that noise or it's just to me it's just it's too much noise I like listening to it through these quality headshot yes i can appreciate it but everything would believe they're open stage making that kind of ruckus it's just gonna smell like ruckus tomato and i apologize midlands people it's not offensive like it's not for me sure so look up so here's another band i really like that maybe takes it a little step further you pronounce it in in a stray sure you'll understand this this is just like a phrase it's called every time i die lovely ah we don't say that in australia no but it's like a bunch of words and you could put together these guys are more under the radar a little more under the radar um they're pretty intense to kind of almost they have like we sure they're pretty intense I mean being called every time I die I'd say that they're pretty low-key doctor Kynes waiting for happy guy uh there's a song called werewolf yeah um they're a little more heavy sounds like mid-90s sounds like it would be like in the soundtrack by tony hawk game yeah curious with Shannon thanks I like the message I think don't so they're intense this guy's guys got a couple set of pipes on so it's you know it's it's intense but that's another band I dabble in I'm more I little heavier I'm more into the foxy shazam yeah there you go ok cool just a little more there's a bit more melody in there I can get friendlier and the send the singer I like the singer his voice is spectacular it is yeah they really are not sure but I I can appreciate the music and listening to it I actually enjoyed listening to those two songs through my headphones and watching you be really happy yeah I mean I'll that's as happy you can I glint in your eyes that well I have tried to bring that glitch with other songs and it hasn't worked so know you've done it you did it today already with the libertines yeah I'm glad you it's very different you would like that you know I'm here I'm you know I'm I'm here and I'm gonna give it the the college try like we said can I destroy it all now by playing the most stream song of all time on split up time yeah wait whooshing yes yes I'm just gonna stop playing don't know all right um I feel like Michael Jackson no it's gotta be something newer oh yeah you're right it's playing now just just punch it up and what we're gonna know I'm gonna know it you might not is this Sheeran edsheeran yeah damn what's up well yeah sorry i had to change things up to 17 right this is the most streamsong that ever because a lot of people want to get laid essentially he does I mean this is like the modern like let's get it on arion guess there are these dreams hi I think it's gonna be over a billion no I would say 30 million no I think it's way more than that I'm ready oh wow sorry you were greedy oh wow I snow spot if I went up that high yep yeah which is he made off that she's crazy wow that's crazy I don't write the checks right but yeah he's been he's consistently one of our most stream daughters my husband since last year last year he was our most dreamed of so you but like everyone can appreciate where like you compare a dude like this right just like a dude like Justin Bieber as I come on yeah yeah yeah yeah cheers in the sky and he's playing guitar and he's doing the looping yeah a looping thing live also yeah and he is up there by himself yes yeah we go fill in arena yeah and it's just him his guitar and he's leaving a thousand fifteen year old girl that's good and Elton John Elton John's a fan ya know that's very good it's awesome cheers and he's got red hair yeah he does good for him and he's got like conquering and he's you guys live change your life what hell is he's young he's I think he's like 24 23 he's got a bright future hey don't tell me okay he's having a good time I'm him you're not worried about edsheeran I think I heard he was dating one of the Pussycat Dolls oh really yeah do it stuff I don't know what that means I think I know what that means they're like a burlesque no no no no no just like it goes like a band right reckitt burlesque oh sorry no he is not dating okay spreading the librarian slander yeah I shouldn't be delving into gossip it's not my thing oh I like everyone to have their privacy no I agree except if they're running for president ah well thank you so much for for being here too as my pledge it's always a fantastic pleasure of ours to have all this new music and thank you for playing some metal this this time finally I want to apologize if we lost anyone during the metal song we probably lost everyone at the beginning with the Biba song so damn i guess all right let's take your eve la mitad pick your poison um follow Shannon on twitter at Shannon kook with 1n correct and uh I can't wait to have you back next time likewise i'll come back soon with all kinds of end-of-year data all right fantastic i think i may be best christmas songs maybe yes writing i would love that um a few things before we'd like me Haley uh oh someone real quick someone want to ask your opinion do you know what Fetty WAP is Fetty WAP yes like that he is one and actually he will be someone I'm talking about a lot towards the end of the year because he's been a huge breakout star on Spotify and around the world he's a rapper young rapper people love him great greatest yep so there you go and then also someone asked and I guess we can maybe answer this does the premium version of Spotify use a lossless format or higher bitrate it's definitely a higher bitrate yeah I think it's not lost that's definitely a higher bitrate I am positive about that I'm not tech support yeah you just answer the question beauty I didn't almost I don't know the exact bit rate but is definitively higher than the free version yes I'm gonna throw my pen also I want to talk about a few things we've got coming up on the show uh the creator and star of drunk history are you aware of that show half drunk anything drunk but I drunk history is funny I was gonna say thank you know uh Derek waters the creator and he's also stars in that show as well of drunk history which is currently in its third season I want to say on Comedy Central wednesday nights he will be here next week so we can I to come back for that if you'd like be a beer guys yeah after my I can you know some other person so here's what's upsetting Russ is gonna be your so to be like a one-on-one with me and Derek and drinking I yeah but you're gonna be in the Clancy can't drink yeah you can't drink uh anyway no the cleanse ends in three days okay it'll work out if you have a burning question for mr. waters go to reddit.com / r / the 404 and submit your question to the thread we've got going and I will most likely relay that to Derek is we're gonna happen for half hours did you see that um take off of drunk history a couple did the thing about their drunk dating dude that was kind of funny it's pretty good not bad it's pretty good good idea i want to ask him about that yeah and what he thinks about like people just jacking your thing copycats uh which is your uncle yet which is I'm sure more of a term of flattery totally we could totally do a drunk 404 show uh would Alan that's called every show I don't know where you were earlier yeah we all took shots of Jameson there is a weird sort of boozy smell in here yeah it is that's just called my everyday ban how do you think I get through being a father um so yeah that's going to be super exciting i'm very psyched to talk to Derek so that's going to be fun also this is weird you're not going to believe they're doing this but they're doing this in October I'm going on like a mini cnet tour to college campuses and the in the East Coast New York sort of city area on Wednesday October 7th albeit upenn outside Philly or in Philly ya know in that area and I'm going to talk to like these uh these they're calling them luminaries they're like CEOs of big time company's general managers are big-time companies i'm going to talk to people comcast is there yeah from venmo i'm talking to someone from draftkings i think so dizzy about what just took a like hey how'd you get so smart as you do is we're gonna get drunk and talk about history if you got any jobs hey cap some money is what its gonna be nom I'm hosting like a UH like a fireside chat with these uh these people which will be a lot of time are you know we're like a smoking jacket with the patches no I'm thinking about wearing this fitting t-shirt is very slimming out so I'm gonna do that i'll be in albion philly at UPenn on wednesday the seventh and then Monday October twelfth i'll be at Harvard University Harvard is Javed know what's coming I've been there before so they didn't kick me out then sure shit not going to do it now and I when were you at hardy doing there just I didn't just like recreational let's be really clear here at HBS and I was there visiting him understood yeah I'm sorry so what are you doing it so I'm gonna do the same thing gonna be talking to someone so if you go to 10 someone random person interview someone yeah if you do go to one of those schools make it your business to come check it out and say hi ok I figured maybe there's a few people who go to those respective uh no prestigious university just know you know thanks no they there Kathy oh ok Harvard has a really good taco place by the way right bite they do I've been there what's it called and a star and delicious um yeah so that would be great if you're if you're in the neighborhood Shannon kook thank you so much my pleasure thanks for having me it's always a blast good luck with your cleanse thanks it's nearly over are you the light at the end of the tunnel bacon here we go already fantasizing about which cocktail I will drink alright i can sell us a specialist about that that'll do it for us we're back here next week with Derek waters r us we'll be back in two weeks and then we'll have to figure out the week after that because I think there's more things but don't you worry about that you worry about listening to this show and having yourself a fantastic weekend until next time I'm Jeff Beck I'm Ross fresh like I'm Shannon kook yes that was the cleanse chanting speaking we'll see you guys next time thanks a lot between today's episode was brought to you by wix com wicks is used by 60 million people throughout the world empowering business owners to create their own professional websites with the drag-and-drop builder and hundreds of designer made templates to choose from you can get your website live today it's easy and free go to wi XCOM and create your stunning website today
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