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welcome to the 404 Amaya's akhtar Jeff Bakalar is not here he's in texas no I'm not making that up he's away on a bachelor party so I had to figure out what to do with this empty studio I'm you can't see it right now but this entire studio is empty minus mean a microphone and a computer and i asked the end line because I wanted to call up my best friend in San Francisco lease work friend kaitlin for track of its hi how's it going hi how are you I'm good it's lunch time here yeah I should have gotten something to eat didn't get anything to eat I mean I didn't I it's bagel friday i had a bagel that's that's good but it's national donut day I know and last donut day I did a really great thing I didn't think I could top it this year so well before we get to that it's a it's friday june fifth and the first friday of june apparently is national donut day it wasn't aware of that until this morning but last year yeah you did do something odd with donuts what exactly was that uh well our editor kent dared me to eat a what did we end up calling it a bagel nut I guess and it's essentially whatever bagel I choose with cream cheese on both halves with a glazed donut sandwiched in between it was delicious it was quite a sight to see and and it definitely I think it stopped all of the office work on friday in san francisco city all came over i believe NATO's across the way Nate Ralph who does a lot of reviews if you looked at all its cnet's Windows 10 coverage you've seen Nate's work everywhere and he took a bunch of photos testing out his sonne and X camera and it became an animated gif Caitlin eaten the what you call again the bagel nut big on that bagel nut yeah yeah i think everyone feared for my health that day both mentally and physically um someone else was nice enough to be like hey I have my insulin shot available just in case you like going to die coma you didn't actually take up that offer which I thought no I finished the whole thing because it was delicious so I'm kind of gross I have totally failed to introduce who you are and what you do other than your name so hey so if it wasn't this far you got a little idea of how Caitlyn is but Caitlyn who are you what do you do and why are you here I am a copy editor for seen it who occasionally rights random things for our crave blog which is like pop culture saitek all kinds of fun stuff okay that's what you do let's see ya why do I know you uh mostly because I pestered and bothered you until we became friends yeah I still work in the San Francisco office and here's a boring story so everyone turned down the volume now and then pick it back up in by five minutes so i used to go in at three o'clock in the afternoon pacific time i would decide to either get my second cup of coffee or get a cup of tea a second cup of coffee if i was like just completely dragging or cup of tea if i was worked up and angry and a lot of times i would be getting tea so the thing about this is that in the break room in San Francisco we've got a barista and or they have a briefs time in New York now so we was not we did they do I don't have one anymore I don't have a personal one that stays over in the first floor all the time but I get my tea and it would be scalding hot as it should be but the thing is I didn't like getting burned and so I needed a way and he did a way to kind of kill time so I started playing a basketball game because there's a little basketball game behind the security desk in the San Francisco office I'm not making any of this up you're like this is cnet yeah cnet's got a basketball game right behind security and at first I was kind of fearful of doing that because I thought it'd be annoying you're throwing a basketball behind their heads right but whatever they've seen pretty cool so I play a game of basketball every day while my tea was cooling and eventually this person started pestering me but hey where you going like I'm getting a coffee like do you want to come so you showed up and you basically taught me to play shuffleboard because it's a shuffleboard table at the break room near the barista right right near all the all the milk and the sugar and stuff on one side of it so basically i noticed that we'd probably get so caught up in trash-talking that we would kind of like turn very quickly and somebody's trying to get milk into their coffee and we would probably hurt them if we weren't paying full attention yeah I mean there were only a couple spills it wasn't that bad we never got sued which is nice and yeah also great also great yeah we never try to say to the lake I never really played basketball and granted it's just like arcade basketball but I do credit you with my second place win in the CBS interactive Olympics for basketball yeah so this was the I'm am just saying the CBS interactive Olympics oh yeah while you guys were all like goofing off on the west coast we're like doing some serious serious work we got the writers like just locked in cages here look like veal they can barely move and they're right right and you guys like well nothing's getting copy edited his Caitlin's playing basketball that's what's happened it's very important it was competitive camaraderie yep that sounds like a terrible reality show competitive commodity it's like they're buddies but they hate each other when they play sports competitive camaraderie coming to ABC family I definitely think that show would be on like TLC or or there'd be like a I don't know some sort of relationship twist and it'd be on Bravo by the way if you do play a basketball game the basketball game at the San Francisco office just stay to the left because the one the right doesn't keep score there two hoops the right one well it did max out a lot much room it got better no no it got better it got better and they got new basketballs so they're not all flat which really threw off my game for a long time but I've almost broken 100 I got 92 like a couple weeks ago so yeah my ice cream I'm improving my high score was 108 and that's at the flat balls back then because you could just like breaking everything right and then in my last so much easier on my last day I'm like I'm gonna be my score I got a hundred and seven and I was like son of them were probably pissed I was like well on a seven there 107 is not bad for my last day in San Francisco's not 108 I didn't get to break it I'm pretty sure it should have counted another basket but whatever you know basketball game behind the security desk I got no grudge against you septum wow monstrous grudge against an inanimate object yeah good job well you know it subscribe to this podcast right I believe it yeah I hook that up I made it happen I should play back before I was it tweet about it every time that somebody like beats your high score not yet I don't know if my high score was the high score because after he goes to 100 it just rolls over yeah and apparently they reset it or something so I don't know the high school was like 47 and even if you scored over that which I did regularly it's like nope I scores 4763 nope 47 so maybe it's 247 147 I have no idea maybe does have an ability to do that so what we're saying is we're going to do when I go to san francisco in September I'm going to make that thing tweet gonna happen awkward um you just didn't phrase right I think that story was more than five minutes sorry Sophie make you tune back in I apologize for the long long story because I ended up yammering too much about basketball anyway we do have stories today not a lot of text stories so if you want to tech um sorry go but there there are some new stuff and I'm sure this first thing we'll get you riled up because there's a variety story saying that James Bond's rights are up for grabs the license right now is at Sony it's done pretty damn well out there but the November sixth Spectre is going to be the end of the multi-picture pact between MGM and Sony that's sad you know gah casino royale quantum solace and Skyfall so the rights are being auctioned off do you think Sony should do everything to keep James Bond or is there like another studio that you're like you know would do really well with this I think why what's going to say columbia pictures but that's so I think that Disney should get it what do you think oh my god could you imagine a Disney bond that be terrifying terrifying bad terrifying good yes no terrifyingly upsetting why do you say would batting why would that be a good thing that would be are they own miramax and didn't miramax do born stuff um I that's my point i don't know i born assured ushered in this like serious wave of shaky cam ok didn't usher it in but it certainly didn't help it and it just never SAT well with me I don't like it it doesn't I don't know um I'm totally yeah there's some of that in there's some of that in the Bond movies but not as much as like the car chases inborn well I'm totally wrong at Universal isn't borne identity so forget that idea don't give them it either so you she's getting I mean Universal could use them Universal doesn't yeah i was doing anyway I mean they've got like the wolf man does universal also have transporter right now i will look that up universal the transport like a thing they'd have um yeah cuz they're making this series of films not just the TV series it's 20 Century Fox oh the transporter we saw actually came excited to see that movie well maybe Fox should get it they just lost they got rid of Star Wars by selling a look Lucasfilm sold off everything so sep Star Wars for episode 4 that is to 20 Century Fox thanks well they make like two films and leave it hanging on a I don't know IQ yeah I don't know I think Sony did spectacular things with it I think that um 10 Oh Craigs one of the best bonds we should you lofty statement you can still have him there's nothing wrong I mean own to recast it is if the rights just move over somewhere else they would be like well we're gonna reboot this again they don't have to with Craig being so successful it sittin like spider-man or anything yes yeah no no I'm very close to bond I grew up watching all the movies with my mom and dad I have supremely ridiculous thoughts about who's the best and what types of things were the I don't know what the best movies were with the best gadgets and the villains and all that and I don't know I'd rather not get too wrapped up in oh it's gonna go it sold to universal or disney or yadda yadda yadda because I just want to enjoy bond basically don't screw it up I'll be okay with whoever owns the rights that's why I find this shocking absolutely shocking didn't you pick apart like every movie ever and every decision on every but James Bond has some kind of like I think I think it's because it's yeah it's like my childhood bubble it's I don't know I like thinking of it in lovely lofty terms and dissecting it kind of ruins some of the magic it's like Disneyland okay you don't go to Disneyland and try and peek behind the curtain every instance you get you just enjoy it for what it is so you're okay with James Bond just as long as it just has the regular spy opening that's awesome and a cool theme song you couldn't care less what these that's not what I said you just don't want to know I just said don't screw it up yeah I don't want to get involved in the politics of who owns what where when yes was last time there was a bad Bond movie the Christmas me one what wasn't with that Denise watch what Denise Richards great the one with the East Richards which took their Christmas Jones oh come on what what was it called band line of that movie is probably one of the best are you stalling kudamon that long history Denise Richards Pierce Brosnan hmm Denise Richards come on I don't remember the name oh the world is not enough thank you that didn't really good song though my garbage remember that at least oh you don't like that song all right it's fine it's feel like i'm not gonna insult you right now i'll do it with it's fine whatever look at the IMDb thing I'm noticing that there's these ads from minions July tenth did you see that the minions packaging is all over amazon boxes right now oh really yeah it's the first time amazon has sold rights to the boxes and apparently like kids around the US are kind of like pissed because they see this minion box and they're like there's no minions in here where's my minion yeah it's an awesome yellow box and it's got minions all over Zach July tenth the movies coming they shoulda like included like a build-your-own minion inside just like a Twinkie like potato okay yeah or build like a cardboard minion or I don't know if they're paying that much for the rights the box which I can only imagine is staggering amounts then they should have like included a minion Wow or if you buy a kid's toy or you buy something age-appropriate include a minion no I change her mind I like the minions to included in every box I could to see that for large enough boxes it's totally done like a minion so that you can put it on as a costume oh my god I be adorable how many can that be so so Amazon me minion cats are there what the kit all cats inside the boxes oh my gosh I haven't ever heard of that yes it's gonna be a thing because another thing the tumblr Yeah right like just leave your phone yeah it should be a tumblr it probably is cat minions just you have minions and their cats constantly but that's the first time Amazon's done that I could see that doing really well because when you see this yellow box you're like oh look oh yeah that movie's coming up but then again I amazon sometimes do some really weird stuff I know with the kindle of fire or the kindle readers they actually had special kindle boxes which basically just said steal me if you see me what sitting down because it actually had the labeling up it's a kindle on it it wasn't like a regular plain box it's a special box this is a long time ago this is back like when the kindle was just not ugly oh sorry is it the second gen 1 you know was like 350 bucks and had a keyboard exactly it elicited that reaction to by the masses all right but what it's at kindle and you across 350 bucks it might as well say steal me back then I mean still a kindle this was a long time ago this is like this is like the days of 3g okay 3g was like that the new hotness back then oh my goodness 3g yeah and you were it was it was before retina display was even like a twinkle in his eye okay was a long time ago just a little after the dinosaurs roamed the earth and just like before ultrabook OC well yeah I obviously wouldn't remember that far back yeah Caitlin at the San Francisco office is the resident um young person actually no no there are quite a few who are younger than me they brought in more they brought it but they just like have you had a bus well I mean I guess I don't know you getting a lot of inner workings of cnet by the way so anybody is super like enthrall the cnet you're like a super fan boy dan graziano you should really listen to the episode every ball we were doing we can't call him out like that we've had Dan Graziano on this show he sits next to me in the office he's off today and if he's listening to this stop listen to this go do something fun go do something else didn't he have time off or something isn't he that's in a way it took pto and he never takes pto that's insane yeah I know he was ordered to take with you that's the thing well that's fair yeah from home it wasn't from the office or anything we were like we were like sticking him yet and Dan if you don't know Dan Graziano he is one of the folks that is a lot of the wearable reviews and he does a lot how to stuff and we do mock him sometimes for his arm hair and his pictures of things he does a good job hiding that yeah that's we had a long discussion with Scott Stein about arm hair in photos and man it's real rough real rough it's not just the hair but photos of the hair and the wearables like you guys need a cute girl to start modeling those wearables over there because it is man I don't know why we don't have a mannequin or something I don't know like just there's a little weird oh you can get a real enough looking hand right and that's awkward now we're going somewhere awkward and speaking of awkward listen let's take a break real quick because we got to pay the bills we got a sponsor today let's take a second and talk a little bit about cars now did you know that a car's value depreciates by ten percent the second you drive it off the dealership lot and then just after one year of owning it it appreciates twenty percent the cars are really expensive and they lose value and it costs you money every single time you got to maintain them but what should you do to turn this asset into extra cash that's what the team at relayrides is trying to do now get this RelayRides is a peer-to-peer car rental company part of that sharing economy you've heard so 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is we'll work on it I think I'm just gonna leave that the hell alone that's that's enough of that I'm gonna tell me that's enough of that me so I saw some news about the Aquaman movie which I'm sure you accept yeah that James Wan is attached to direct the movie and I I know him from saw I didn't know that he did furious bass inferior 7 and a whole bunch of that was why I yeah that's why I recognized the name he did the conjuring which I saw which was alright conjuring 2 I haven't seen insidious I thought was alright so he does a lot of like kind of wait he did the original insidious Sidious in the city is chapter 2 yeah it was directly original was the only one I saw yeah and so it stops pretty dark you know and it's kind of disturbing so he's the guy attached to but I guess when we saw the Aquaman pictures those two were also very dark didn't we see that Jason Momoa or whatever you're absolutely right I'm just realizing it's pretty pretty de bursac Schneider you know like yeah remove all the color do you saturate huh is that great I'm you're like away from the microphones hidden hey you want strong you want strong feelings about something I have some strong feelings about Schneider look look at this night or just a second I'm just realizing that Jason Juan might fit in in the style of Snyder because it's got like okay you got this darkness about it and look at the batman/superman trailers got you know Superman Batman trailer looks so fun no doesn't look fun at all it looks like you're gonna watch something really disturbing what's the word for this how would you describe those trailers you've seen them already devoid of color and where what are you going for here um I don't say there were dark grim and gritty but that's kind of what it is it just seems that is basically the board of humor that's what it seems like it's without any like okay with there's a there's a Batman and there's a alien we know it's silly its ok but it doesn't seem to be any it seems like it takes stuff really seriously and I don't know I mean yeah you have growling Ben Affleck tell me do you bleed like what well that let in all fairness to Ben Affleck he asks everybody that it's a very hard question it's his new tagline remember when he said that in Good Will Hunting I thought that was a weird line but he did say it uh it just it does seem like it takes itself very seriously it birds on parody yeah it's so serious but yeah Jason one who I think can do a decent job with Aquaman although that's a phrase I don't think I'll ever say again can I do a decent job with alchemy nice to read the books and I mean you can try to make him cool as anything you got a-you got this person who can control or at least talk to see life and there's some monstrous things in the sea and you think that'd be a really cool power to have but he's constantly made fun of because he's got a call to Aquaman mean was aqua like okay what why are we gonna call him water man see man no don't like what are you gonna call it well Marvel guys have one they call them to calm the Submariner that's not better it's not worse it's about this it's a worse mouthful that's what if I said the Submariner is gonna have a movie would you be like really that guy if I said to you the Aquaman is gonna have a movie more likely to say really Aquaman um okay are you bi you think that James Wan could do a good job with this I think that his dark pedigree I guess could lend itself very well to like you said the Snyder style I think it'll be just as grimy as that photo we saw of Khal Drogo I actually got which I will always call him not Jason Momoa didn't you do like a two-minute recap on Game of Thrones yeah i did call is dead spoiler alert if you haven't finished the first season you're behind um which is so sad because he was spectacular I did I did a two minute like recap super quick top like seven characters in the game of thrones you verse and where they were at the beginning of this current season is I've watched the first three episodes of Game of Thrones and I was like years ago and then I didn't wanna learn contra Khal Drogo days I didn't watch anything until the 2-minute recap you did and then I've watched like the last man you were so lost oh no I like I really enjoy not knowing what the hell is going on because it makes oh that's how those of us who keep up with the show also feel it just makes me pay attention a lot because normally like you know if I've watching a movie or a TV show at my home I always have no the screen up I'm like reading other things I'm kind of paying attention a half paying attention and it can follow your stories but since all these events are happening I'm like wait do they not have they never met before if their seeming like the number may be more than is it reveal I wonder what's happening so I don't ask any of these questions out loud I never look up the answers I'm just like hoping that like in two years i'll figure out what that yeah yeah because it'll discover what happened oh I finally was you know previously in Game of Thrones I think oh that's what that was okay i only get it do you also do watch them with the closed captioning on yes you watch the episode that it's so important yeah it's it's not not just because of their accents and weirdness but like the captions you got it I don't know I think it really helps with comprehension because it also when they list character names you're like oh that's okay now i remember who that is cuz you haven't seen them in five episodes you're like oh estes what's going on yep i are you talking to them the captions don't work in the recap in the beginning on HBO now right Joe so no they don't there's no damn chickens in there I've watching this I'm like glued to the screen I'm like wait what are they saying that here what wait what was that that was no really imply somebody put the captions on this part so HBO ppv never heard a better argument for marathoning Game of Thrones just to get through the preview don't forget you know yeah so you don't forget what's happening um I I will admit i am quite a few episodes behind right now and i'm not sure if I want a marathon this weekend or just marathon into the finale next next weekend that's about the 14th I would know that that was a subtle subtle plug which I'm making very obvious now for net picks go to cnet.com / epics that is not a sponsor I'm being a shell about my own work here and I mean if you can't hear where can you if you can't what if you can't show your own stuff here where can I just do it outside with a sandwich board most the time I mean I have loved working out Hey look the ratings are good numbers are good so I have any way to track how many visitors come from your sandwich board which I'd be really interested it has a special URL it's slashing that pic / sandwich you know oh but don't go there it doesn't actually go anywhere not yet anyway course if you're listening fix that please um getting very integrated today on the show what do I have is number three on today's lineup 24 without Kiefer Sutherland what TVLine confirms a spin-off of 24 is coming and that's crap and the idea is this would star a younger protagonist not Jack Bauer is not to be a young Jack Bauer Jack might actually appear on this show it's gonna start at the series terrible it's a limited series when it starts 02 miniseries if this is a horrible idea okay why why is 24 tied to Jack Bauer have you heard gave her the Sutherlands voice before yes oh my god no one can do that no it's so iconic ok Iyaz was actually the one who got me into watching 24 I had friend in high school who loved ate watched every episode I just could never really get into it so you actually got me into watching it all I'm still currently in the middle of season four or five I don't know something like that and oh my god I can't picture anyone trying to do what Jack Bauer does well the American bond how you gonna spin off that really really well what if it's done like like the kings like that good you got a good spy young he watched easement that's completely different I was a completely different did you just compare 24 to the Kingsmen not every day imma seems to have a successful youth like spy character if you're gonna have a American bond or close to it you want a younger person you have to pull this off really well and that did it actually surprisingly well so watch like twice now and it's I love that movie a movie is great it's way better than has any right to be okay that movie could be bad I went into and not expecting it to be that good at all it was spectacular I saw no trailers the only thing I saw was a lady with the with the sharp feet or legs I said she has like night like she has swords for I guess the lower extremities below the knee and all I saw it was like her flying through the air on bus ads that's the only thing I knew about this movie and I was like I I mean I had seen the trailers and samuel l jackson acting ridiculous and you kind of go into it being like oh yeah haha is gonna be a ridiculous pre-summer crazy movie and you come out of it you're like holy cow that was mind-blowingly awesome let's get back to devour 24 right after another break that's right we got another sponsor we'll be right back so now we're gonna talk about something I can't stand and that's going to the post office okay every time I go there I feel like I want to rip my hair out of my head I hope that I have a great wireless signal from my carrier so i can read stuff on the phone while i'm waiting in a long long line but i don't have to do that anymore because there's stamps.com now so here's the deal with Sam's calm if you've never heard of it it's effectively putting a post office at your home okay they're not actually going to build a brick and mortar building in your home and create this highly inefficient system so you'll go crazy oh no no no what it is is a service that you can run on your pc and 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else click on that microphone at the top of the page and type in cnet see any tea so go to Stan's com enter see any tea and go try out Stan's com okay so why are you telling me that a spin-off would fail couldn't they find an actor or can they not write a story good enough that you would be happy thing it'll fail I'm just saying that it's really upsetting they would even consider getting rid of Kieffer isn't again a little old he can't dude he's gonna be like Donald Sutherland running good listen Kiefer Sutherland is ageless he's like Sean Connery it does not matter how old he is he will always be a badass no Sean Connery like he Sean Connery's like canna reeves they both like maxed out there done aging excuse me kena Reeves does not eight okay I was like Sunderland and Sutherland does AG parties a lot and it's visible silence mmm-hmm he ages a little bit more than the regular ageless people then but yeah he might be I like he's stopped yeah I feel like he stopped aging and he's timeless and if some voice doesn't age so who cares this is dad stopped aging Donald saw the moon's look like is it been a thousand for what 30 years now he's the same forever yeah so so obviously he's got good genes it'll be fine just let him keep going you ever see that video of Sutherland Kiefer Sutherland at Cross bodying a Christmas tree what there's a video of Kiefer Sutherland who is dis blasted out of his mind and somebody just like says some offhanded comments to him and he decides to do a flying crossbody block on a tree a Christmas tree that's like in a lobby of a hotel it's one of the best videos ever on the internet to see keep ourselves I'm like all right and in this boom just seem flying I'm gonna have to find a link oh now I'm totally stoked yeah yeah so yeah I guess as long as you share that I'm totally excited to watch that later I mean I can't remember exactly what it does do it's insane but i hope i've watched 24 for a bunch of season that's a about five or six seasons and then I got a little bit bored with the format because I mean after episode 12 spoiler they find the bad guy least you think is the bad guy and then like oh no no wait he's the second level bad guy he's just the front guy he's only the second level bad guy but he'd be the bad guy if we didn't get renewed for the other half of the season but we wanted to make sure that you had a satisfying ending uh that's like every season though so like I wish they'd which box is like yeah we'll give you twenty two episodes 24 episodes as I said this I don't know to tell you I'm a really big fan of formulaic television and that sounds tear my say but I don't anymore I love it I love shows that follow that predictable pattern I love crime shows you have no idea how depressed I was four days that CSI is over days was I'm still upset about hundred an eighty episodes of that on hulu did you finish them all there's all of the episodes on hulu okay and no I've not finished them all so you got that to watch I look forward to yeah but I mean I've seen all of them over the course of my lifetime it doesn't make me any sadder that it's ending by the way if you want to know more procedural shows almost anything on USA every show follows the same pattern i'm not saying as each other but they are pretty similar Royal Pains is exactly every episode I just started I am it's exactly like suits is good I haven't seen suit see it says really good dialogue formula though in the beginning I guess I haven't really watched it lately does it follow the point um uh yeah more or less I best thing about USA shows they got really good dialogue I won't like I mean it's not just us a like it's us a special common things like the glades on A&E was great psych was one of the best comedies ever on television um what else burn notice I enjoyed I enjoyed it until i saw one image on the internet at every episode of Burn Notice ever and then I read it through and I like damn it that's right yeah that's every episode dang I have no reason to watch this other than the last episode which I know is on netflix somewhere so I'll watch it and go oh it's just so nice to watch formulae television like it just it just completes itself so nice if the office today I've been marathoning numbers love numbers the CBS show yeah disclaimer CBS owns seen it oh yeah but they didn't like this is just my own personal opinion like I like numbers I've tried watching mostly well and it was just it was it got so bad cuz just the leaps the logical leap that it would make was akin to Batman in 1966 it was just like you're kidding me with this it was like really bad Riddler stuff I just was so so easy to watch though you know yes it's easy to watch that's why I love watch lifetime movies they're really easy to watch oh my god can we talk about the will ferrell Kristen Wiig project coming out oh it's funny I said you the Lincoln I don't know anything about it so tell us about that movie oh I thought you knew about it that's what you sent it to me um they had kind of joked about making and creating and starring in a lifetime to movie together and then a billboard suddenly appeared in LA saying that it'll air what June twentieth or something like that June twentieth again reduction it's called yeah and I mean it I think kind of still thinks it's a joke like this can't really be happening right um I think it was a wasn't it an April Fool's Day joke or something like that I don't know I found news of the Lifetime movie made the rounds in April Farrell was upset the top secret project was revealed and released a statement saying it had been cancelled it said we are deeply disappointed that our plan top secret project was made public Kristin and I have decided it is then the best interest for everyone to forgo the project entirely and we thank lifetime and all the people who were ready to help us make this film but now there's a billboard what is happening there's the plot here from e w in April wigan Farrell stars a married couple who house a pregnant woman 90210 is jessica lon des in an attempt to adopt her child in the process the scituate situation spirals dangerously out of control I mean oh who doesn't want to high stakes dramatic thriller I really hope it's real it says saturday jun 20th is supposed to be the day sunday the birth sunday sunday sunday sunday come on mmm guy era lifetime movies on a sunday well the birth of a plan gone wrong is the tagline oh god it's gonna be so good that's gotta be amazing i know that the lifetime did a Saved by the Bell unauthorized movie which was horrible like it was I mean horrible like as in not so bad you enjoyed it it was just that not quite horrible enough to be enjoyed all right yeah i mean that's that's the real pole of Lifetime movies is that they're just laughable and my favorite thing is always seeing actors in roles who are trying to break typecasting that was always my favorite I mean I think that's why even if especially if this actually airs it's going to be spectacular because you know the two of them are gonna be so seriously dedicated to their roles they're not going to be making jokes or anything it's going to be spectacular satire as long as it's in like sharknado if this is straight on done like I spawn drama and they just think it's I think it's going to be full-on drama done and that I think to these guys the big joke and that would be hilarious that there's a 90 minute I'll be so good piece of art out there and I can't wait for that I hope this is real it's only we'll find out a couple weeks but yeah this is that it's a Saturday jun 24 the poster says sunday we supposed oh is that way it's not gonna be real cuz the posters is sunday june 20th but sunday is the 21st it's Father's Day in case anyone wants to remember to get a card now you should do that um oh that's why it's not gonna be real isn't it it will find out we'll find out soon enough it'll be sunday june 20th next year damn it we'll never know ever until two weeks from now yeah yeah okay ever ever until 15 ever for two weeks yeah I mean that's a long time two weeks I mean we're gonna forget all about this project and you will forget and it will hopefully find it on some kind of on demand service somewhere so we can watch live ever yet have you seen the whole Marvel phase 2 thing on Netflix what do you mean like all the shows that are coming yeah horo Hollywood had this insider piece about what's coming and phase tube Netflix shows plans to 23 netflix series a year phase two supposed to have defenders in 2017 de Deauville season 2 in 2016 they said that electra is really happening as a spin-off of daredevil but then there's a whole bunch of maybes coming they Marvel's 20 good I just have a lot of questions I mean there have there's been talks of okay well i made a timeline right of how you could watch all the TV shows and all the movies in a correct ish order of not necessarily air date but to just get the whole stories and there's a lot there is a lot of netflix properties the question for me is is that as long as netflix TV and film are run separately how much crossover can we really expect to continue well there are certain actors who have deals where they can be in multiple shows not a silly movies another rosario dawson is the one they were calling her like the Nick the netflix Marvel Universe has found its Nick Fury and I was like oh there's a nick fury character and that headline meant they had this character that can move from one story to the next and was Dawson's character in daredevil so there's a lot of these contracts that are being written for the Marvel stuff on netflix in particular are supposed to be open to allow people to have this movement within the universe and these stories are supposed to tie together so you're not gonna have a hell a lot of movie tie-ins but apparently there's a big push to get dr. strange all the defenders as a cameo real short Benedict Cumberbatch I think they could get it as long as they just bring the defenders like on the set of the movie is like just mere right to say hi what do you stand there stand the background did you just stay there you can't talk you're getting a coffee just not you better you have Cumberbatch in your show you're gonna want him to do something he doesn't have to do much I mean he's such a big draw though they're a crowd that wouldn't normally watch such a thing that'd be that'd be really fun to see that I think is the right casting for dr. strange if I haven't said that because that character can be really great yeah there is not I mean is is eccentric and odd and it's about magic and it's it I mean it's a stretch just a character itself is a stretch its dr. strange but the the name is just I mean DC's got dr. fate let's not talk about that yet he's got an awesome helmet uh anyways wow it does if you can you can if you watch this show would you look at the waveforms you'll see that at 40 seconds in that there's actually the form of dr. fates helmet in the waveform don't don't actually do that i'm lying i have no idea that's the case if it's that way I'd be freaking awesome though innit moving on so Marvel's also the story from her Hollywood also had that Marvel's toying around with having the punisher blade and ghost writer either on these shows within like cameos with the defenders or their own series at this point you think those guys would work on TV I'm sorry you said Punisher and I got really distracted thinking about Thomas Jane yes and where he is now so you think so where is you know I was like to the punisher he was the what is he doing now it was the second Punisher the first one was Dolph Lundgren which nobody doesn't know that happened that so happened and then there was Thomas Jane and then there was the third one with war zone whose name I have no idea what it is but that movie was just amazing it was like 80 s violent did you watch it no oh you gotta watch it is that the body counts like through the roof it's but that's as far as you can go you can only kill like so many bad guys because the show's get a little bit you know blame after a while you can't have 12 hours of shootings can you I mean probably good I don't think ghost rider would work I think the CG would look unless they're printing a lot of money in it ghost writer is a hard one if you don't know anything about ghost writer he is a guy whose face melts and he's like a flaming skull riding a motorcycle that has flames four wheels wait you talked about the Nicolas Cage ghostwriter I don't that Ghost Rider the characters in general what his look is this character the flaming skull in the flaming bike of the flaming wheel Italy will always associate him with Nic Cage don't does the movies don't don't do that to go struck a bit that's not me to movies I zanotti that they did that is not fair to ghost rider at all I mean ghost rider on film will always be in a cage just like blade will always be Wesley Snipes I'm sure they could get wesley snipes hes not doing anything is he probably not i'd probably be really good then I'd watch that that would be a decent thing but I don't know so I guess Marvel has the rights back from new line cinema's that would happens that's who did blade to new line even exist I don't know I guess they bought back a bunch of the rights to everybody else but Punisher I don't think would work other than one offs Ghost Rider do the penance penance stare with people that's a little bit I think blade I yeah I mean out of those three I think blade would be the best I definitely watch that I mean I don't know a vampire slaying show with the character's name is because of the B could never work you know just saying I think it'd be great as long as they don't bring specially if it was like a jade wesley snipes be awesome as long as they don't bring back Stephen Dorff who was like the least intimidating he was a least intimidating bad guy in the history of film okay you like aren't you one of those like a little fox over there right I'll you were your bad guy yeah you're supposed to be intimidating to blade you're gonna you're gonna kill blade Wesley Snipes that's what you're gonna do ok good luck taking on the demolition man you got ok you know that Stephen Dorff no don't please don't ever come back she put Stephen Dorff and Nic Cage put him away just keep him out of the moral universe poor Nick Cage it was pretty good and kick ass though yeah I think yeah he got to do what he's always wanted to do which is be Adam West but yes and you know his name is based on luke cage right oh that makes sense ding such a comic book fan he didn't want to get known by his he didn't want to be associated with his family yes well that's the first thing he didn't want to get roles based on his famous man family he's a Coppola and yet on the cage because he's a comic book fan Luke Cage was the inspiration for his name which is even weirder because maybe he should show up in one of these Marvel shows it's just like a guy may be over I mean I'm sure he's like trying yeah I don't know if he's that big a fan I'm sure he's tried he did try it was called ghost writer that's why he was there is he obviously wanted to badly be in a marvel comic movie this is gonna be great and he's like let's roll it was like no that movie was so bad i fell asleep during it and i was drinking heavily while watching it why i've drank haunted i drank heavily through a lot of movies and ghost rider could not keep my attention cuz it just was so bad but I that was that was a long time ago in a different Marvel Cinematic Universe so maybe it'll be better and hopefully Nick Cage and stephen dorff if you are listening to this we have an email address so let us know the 404 cnet com and you could say that we suck well I do you didn't Caitlin you didn't trash him did you know I enjoy his movies on a certain level I enjoy his movies too Ghost Rider just wasn't it's on the continuum of enjoyment it's unlike far on the left and the left meaning the bad side Wow anyway I just they made a blade TV series who did it existed okay blade TV series American live-action TV show existed okay it premiered on spike TV in 2006 and you remember this well I thought I was crazy for remembering it so I looked it up and I'm not as crazy as I thought I was cuz it did exist questionable it was actually written hey it was written by David s Goyer I'm pretty sure he wrote he wrote the blade trilogy obviously but he also did he worked on a dark knight batman trilogy i want to say i just saw a terrible movie with his name attached to it i'm gonna find it because it was just a miserable piece of garbage and it was like on netflix oh you know what it is kickboxer to David s Goyer the guy that did blade the series Batman Begins the screenplays also he worked on Batman vs Superman too I believe Dark Knight Rises man of steel you did man of steel oh man no not good um okay Constantine the latest series ghostwriters beard of vengeance yeah so gory you got your hits and you got your missus uh yeah yeah but I did see kickboxer too i try to watch it um I was only trying to pick a movie to watch I'll try kickboxer too because it has the guy from step by step in it the guy used to live in the van and nope never seen it nope if you're old enough to know tgif it was step by step was basically a modern day well at the time Brady Bunch kind of show mixed family and there was a oh no yeah no yes okay yes and there was like cousin Cody's here my brain was thinking cousin Cody's hehe lives in a van outside and that fun he's fun Cody so Cody was like a martial artist but the guy the actual actor was martial artist who did kickboxer to when I don't know if he did three but he was in the movie and I tried to watch it and it I said David s Goyer like oh boy I got to really try to watch this four minutes later I turned it off so it it's not a very good four minutes hmm at all who's the mom and step by step Suzanne Somers okay thank you why oh i just--that's well my brain got stuck on Suzanne Somers Patrick Duffy oh yeah yeah yeah one of the kids oh yeah I used to see a lot of reruns of that I saw when I was in college back when I was young I thought her gonna read the first time on ABC and that was many many years ago anyway have you seen the bloomberg article saying that finishing your emails with best is just wrong oh I do not like when people do that that's too bad because I do it all the time so it just sounds very sassy you think it's sassy best well if you if you say you read it like that how do you read it best if you say it how do you how do you read it best why are you saying best it's more like my best to you but you're not saying that you're just saying best that's like saying I told you so I mean the word so replaces a hell of a lot of words you know if I yell happy birthday to you and I'm not actually saying I hope you have a happy birthday saying happy birthday it's a shorthand no no those are terrible examples if I say so I'm not saying I told you so no no I'm saying the phrase I'm changing the subject I'm saying I'm saying that the phrase I told you so the word so replaces a ton of stuff right there good what I mean so what you're saying is you're using best as a placeholder because you don't want to write out what you're saying apparently you wrote this article of Bloomberg because what they have they did if you're right if you're writing best you you're ending emails were wrong they had an business etiquette coach barbara pachter and she said that's terrible it's a hierarchy of closings you can't use warmest regards too effusive banks is fine but it's often used when there's no gratitude necessary sincerely is just fake how sincere do you really feel about sending along those attached files Cheers they say is it leadest unless you're British because it makes you look like you're citing the best is benign they say others have called a charmless palette palette and personal or abrupt so what do you use then as a closing um it depends who I'm talking to usually I use thanks if if if and only if I've asked for something or they've given me information that I needed so i use it when it's appropriate i'll be like thanks but more often than not when i'm sending like interoffice emails i don't sign anything at the end because you can see that the email came from me and I've written what I need want have to say and you can pretty much figure out the rest from there yeah what I'm sending like a cold email to find out more contacts about certain sites or whatever i'll use best at the end just because it is benign it is tame and there's no way on earth i guess only for Caitlyn though there's somebody takes it badly best would you just don't get it I guess it's it's the fact that it cannot be misread is if you if you're right thanks I guess I only miss read it there's like thanks in advance I used to write but I thought that's too presumptuous like it video is this you'll do it for sure I mean let's just a friend of mine then like I really do mean nothing here's a thanks Anna baby ya know you'll do it but like when it comes to like hey I need to find out some information about this product let me know about it but the first email has to have some kind of ending like its formal and that's when I use thanks if I'm asking for information or materials i'll say thank you CP like that's I don't know that's how you read it thank you that's like thanks well I just right thanks there's no ! or anything thanks period will be like thanks comma CP yeah just an easy number to agree Z through the signup should be nothing have no sign so much easier because that's not the way conversations happen on email like I continued I can see that like anytime I see a text that has like somebody's name at the end of it they're like here's a message the car is parked over here you know love dad it's like you you don't need to do that you know I can see it's coming from your phone yeah and it's conversate there's nothing that says this conversation has oh yeah my grandma definitely does that but it's my grandma it's adorable like that's different okay well yeah they fall into different formalities so this idea of sending without a closing I always thought was that was somewhat rude to not have that or to have that terrible signature we like here's my name here's my title here my 18 phone numbers email addresses websites and Twitter handles and like that looks pretentious without just having hey something before it say like I get it if you're making late if you're writing like a cold email to a contact or making a request then yeah having all of your information at the bottom makes a lot of sense cuz then they can choose how they want to reach out to you in response that's fine i guess i was like what if you're sending an inner office email I don't need to see your website twitter handle office number cell phone number and office address I know where you work it's three cubicles down somebody in particular apparently at the office that the cubicle Stan would be nobody cuz there's only two cubicles down unless you're going one and over so it's you Nate no sorry oh yeah I was like the Simpsons Kang and kodos they will say end communication like I just thought that's the way to end it you can't put that in any way oh well you can it just it won't go over well I mean you thought best was bad i think end communication would be worse or like that end or go to hell and go to hell might be worse than best fiend over and they gonna that's a good one start going with that I'll allow it sure my next email out to everyone they were like okay and seen the end there actually they're made and made a gift there I saw a really even better why don't why I don't people and their emails with animated gifts that would be my favorite that's what you do oh that's why I like it that's the way you look that's how I like my own emails that's yeah that makes a lot of sense that's why you suck at emails maybe because you're looking at the septa stepping on the line here that you did your own it's gonna be insulting I'm going to continue to step on your mind that's ridiculous that you're spending all your time in the sent email section of gmail that's what you're doing you're just seeing your own emails you look a look are there any other sections the inbox Getty what well send me emails I guess not yeah bye sir remember that if you want to get up Caitlin's attention animated gifts yes gifts gifts gifts gifts not gifts gifts gifts preferably ones from like happy ending that's a great there's those provide I was a television show that that is she's not referring to the Messiah so be aware that there was a television show and ABC's short-lived program with my sorry bed I did mean the TV show just look at all sorry cats anything that has a cat in it it's also winning mm-hmm oh you still use winning don't you how i met your mother this great great choice but nothing from step by step hmm I mean you can but you're just like what is this what does this mean oh there's Academy okay good yeah perfect all right let's talk about this real quick I saw something on the huffington post and it was the story about the headline read are selfies influencing where we choose to go on vacation and right there I'm like okay fine you know what you got a good headline I'm gonna take a look at this story and it's talking about how certain hotels there's one in particular in Paris that'll send you around in a chauffeured luxury car that has Wi-Fi and it'll take you to the most popular tourist attractions so you can take your pictures and you can have an awesome social media feed Wow have you ever thought about taking a vacation solely based on the idea of this this is going to get me a couple more followers I I think I'm in the wrong generation um a lot of my friends are always always on Instagram and Facebook and liking sharing critiquing always judging other people selfies and photos and I take very few and when I do take pictures and put them on Instagram they're usually like a beer so I don't know if I'd be influenced by how many likes I'm getting more than what good beer they have it said destination so this is a really weird concept for me to think about yeah I know social media blah blah blah but I couldn't see but I for doing this is gonna be the best I can't wait to get a picture of me in front of this stuff that's another thing I usually never am in my own photos like okay I'll take pictures of stuff or other things or other people but hardly ever I'm like hey look it's me in front of something like well I mean there's something to be said for putting yourself in the photo if you want to remember you being there with a certain person or at a certain place but not selfie style like if I take a picture of me in front of the Eiffel Tower I'm gonna ask my friend or travel companion to take it so that you can get me with the tower and probably my cute outfit like I'm not gonna just not going to just shoulders up and get the tip of the tower that that would just be ridiculous yeah so I I don't see the point in taking pictures of landmarks by itself either by the way as far as I'm concerned every picture of everything has been done so i don't need pictures up like oh if there's a leaning tower or like here here's somebody pushing the leaning tower up like i don't need to be the guy doing that oh I I dream of someday taking a leaning tower picture I definitely want one of those do you have your special pose in mind um I i I'm not going anytime soon like I'll think about it but I totally want one you know there's a leading one are you maybe whatever it's called the Leaning Tower of Pisa yeah well lame really lame speaking of lame I was totally lame I totally necessary it in tourism I went to Chicago a while ago when to the Willis Tower we just me known as a Sears Tower and mm-hmm you take this picture like on the ground floor with this green screen and then they let you go up to the to the observer of survey shun deck so then you could have you take all the pictures you want but you don't get to have any professional photos up there because for some reason they don't want to get I guess either flashes are like bad weather behind you or whatever so every like photo you see of people at Willis Tower unless it's like from their own iphone that beautiful image is usually a green screen image what I think is so I hate that so weird it's like I was at like I'm in the building Kate we just could you not so can you like take a selfie when you're up at the top yeah you can take pictures over there but I mean it's it's very hard to get a nice clear image if you've ever tried to take pictures where you're lit well and there's a city behind you with a piece of glass it's a nightmare so it's generally very difficult to put together so I could see why they would do that in one respect but I just thought it was so lame because I have this picture max my mom has it's on the fridge of me and my brother and I'm like we were on the first floor that's before we end up the elevator that's it she's like it looks like you're there but is a lie I think that whole thing and I'm really glad it would make sure he's a lie I'm glad it wasn't wearing green that day cuz my son it's a great that's a great tourist tip my son wore a shirt that had green lettering on it and we went to the Avengers then we went to the Avengers station thing in Times Square so he goes to this picture and then I said look at the picture back and I'm like wait a second he doesn't have blue letters it's it's actually it's see-through it just looks blue thankfully there wasn't anything terribly behind him so it would look like movie bizarre but if you want to be a floating head where took like all green at Willis Tower or vendor station whatever because it's gonna be that kind of fake tourism I don't like we should just get a picture of the view and dress like the community human but in all green I would rather get like a really good picture of the view from the tower that community the TV show like yeah the community human is that like is that like a thing now Alaska like the village idiot cuz if that's what it sounded like nothing oh the show right that thing they'll done y ie yeah yeah have you watching yahoo stuff I haven't seen it no the joel mchale show yes that the joel mchale show the man who's on x-files coming oh my goodness he got cast on x-files and he supposed to be some kind of television host a right-winger really you didn't you sent me the link i read my tenant doesn't mean it looked past the headline that's like I thought you'd be interested yes I looked at it and he is gonna be some kind of like right-wing political talking head on on television and he's gonna somehow become spoiler alert an ally of Mulder's somehow so so I wonder how that's gonna work David I'm excited for the new series I'm very excited I have never seen every X Files but I am currently working through them I'm confident I can be done by the time this one premieres that in January I think that's what they're shooting for you I have no idea january twenty fourth i have some idea now it's just like six episodes but um i don't know i'm really excited like I mean my best friend loves x-files you can reference some random bitch quick oh the episode was called yada yada yada and it's in the third season 12 episode and it just seems unusual to me but I'm working through I'm getting there I like it I'm excited I've only watched like a handful of episodes so I'm not as well first anyway we should wrap up because this is a long episode thanks anybody I appreciate that Caitlin if people wanted to find congratulations i'm very self a party the real good job you made it about yourself on the back it's us patting you on the bed job good job Caitlin if people wanted to find you online how should they do that and what else would you like to promote online I'm probably most active on Twitter at mis mis SCP my initials anything else about it do you happy it's just you know I write stuff but it's fine don't worry about it I heard you reviewing a soccer ball I am women's world cup starts this weekend and adidas actually has like a smart soccer ball that tracks your direct kicks speed spin power all that jazz so I reviewed it and I actually really enjoyed it don't spoil it you want people to click that cnet com he'll be there over the weekend I think and did I enjoy it question yeah the one that you see the headline that's how you need to read it okay thank you that everything goes way up at the end that's what I think my voice service cracked there anyway so if you guys we got no calls from the public this time we got no emails other than like promo emails asked folks for stop on reddit for Caitlyn to answer they said happy 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