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hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the 404 it is friday october twenty eight twenty sixteen i am russ fresh dick we do not have mr. Jeff Bakalar here he is out this week unfortunately so I have taken on the role of hosting duties thankfully I am NOT alone I don't think this show would be very good it was just me monologuing for an hour it's not true I you think it'd be good hot on yourself and I'm here your lawyer welcome Shannon she is a well-respected and long-running guest of the 404 she is from Spotify and whenever she comes on she teaches us all a little thing about our hearts my musical hearts that are constantly beating that would I think that's what you do did you realize you were doing that every time he came on yeah its first thought I came here and brought with me lots of noise a lot of which upsets Jeff's ears yeah so this could be kind of cool not having him here well have you sensed that I'm more open minded about music than Jeff is yes you're more embracing of pop music that's definitely true he's more of a metal guy yeah we was not he likes the harder stuff he does I can everyone smile get down on that stuff that's fine yep no no we I think the last time I was here we had a fun time actually we were just we just sort of started playing songs that we like yes it's like fine young cannibals and and Jeff got very excited he did today I'm gonna be talking about songs that Jeff doesn't like oh dear uh mainly because uh pop music yes popular right did you know I think that's where it comes from breaking you know the origins of pop music as a term no I don't I don't know either and now I want to know cuz it seems very vague does it well it has to just be because it's not just like like you could have like a metal song that's like on the pop charts no you can never but it wouldn't be considered a pop song no I think pop song generally is positive but even that's not true because some there's some sad songs that's true it it's the only genre which apparently appeals to a very broad audience but these days it's it's such a hybrid you know these are so many pop songs you know incorporate rap right and then copy em so it's it's getting broader in the order and you know an EDM songs sometimes I will classify as pop and you know same with some hip-hop stuff yeah does Spotify how to Spotify determine what a pop song is oh gosh I don't know that's a good question and that's a good question for some of our curators you have a really great curation team at spotify who curates some of our most popular playlist which have lots of followers one of them is a guy named mike begane who is such a wealth of pop knowledge music knowledge for me and is very helpful he curates the our biggest playlist which is called today's top hits oh yes and it has about 11 million followers but that's not all pop it's those are hits those are songs that are streaming in really high numbers of people are sharing a lot that listeners are not skipping in playlist listeners are saving these songs so we deem those popular song yeah but he's still jumping in he's not it's not like an algorithm we're just like well no it's no no it's it's a lot of it is human human curation which is an important aspect of the way Spotify functions we don't want it all to be algorithm I feel like if you invited one of those curators to a party at your house you'd be very self-conscious of like what you put on yourself great like yeah I'll just be judging it I i yes and actually Mike once asked me what my music taste was a nice day love and I was like sweating buckets oh oh is that the time I have to catch a trick no but um but as for what's pop today and what's popular today what I brought for you today is a list that we come out with once a year this is actually our third time releasing this list I'm very involved in how this list is shaped and who's which artist land on this list and it's our 25 under 25 Wow okay so 25 artists who are under the age of 25 yeah Jeff doesn't like anyone under 40 he does he does is the cutoff what's wrong with that Miss Zoe like smart I hope he likes his son cuz I believe his son is on you know that my turn him around on it hahaha he's changing his ways he likes people under 40 no he likes people over 40 and under one right that's the real time exactly very effective I ring it down but this list is always a fun list to put together because you know Spotify score listeners are pretty young yeah I you know around the age of 22 we have a huge number of listeners of users and so it's always fun to eke out the artists there p is essentially they're listening to and looking up to then feel bad about themselves because they're they have a crappy job is making millions yeah yes and there are idolizing the pants off this person while also possibly sending them nasty messages on social yes very common but this was interesting putting the list together this year because I felt like there were a lot more artists to choose from and a lot more artists in this age group if we're going to call under 25 age group who are doing really really well and one of the ways we're measuring I guess success at the moment and Spotify is by looking at an artist's monthly active user number ok so we hone in on a month long period and we determine how many listeners how many individuals are listening to this person's music so these are unique listeners exactly sorry I kinda said that I forgot I'm this is the tech crowd yes I by should I need not dumb things down um but it's fun too don't it is it makes you feel very powerful but these the numbers are staggering their example shawn mendes who's on top of a list he has 25 million ok monthly listening do you think I know his song his saying I don't know do you think I know it you owe me to play yeah this is this is the one that's kicking but it the name does not ring a bell but Sir see if I know it I have a feeling you've heard it it rings kind of a bell oh this has a good hook doesn't I know he's change not feel if you like I can speed up it's always something I see it on your face when you say that he's the one that you want he's only 18 that's crazy I hate I hate I hate people under 20 that's why I don't oh yeah yeah yeah right yeah it's a great song it is our listeners love it this is a guy who started out hosting six-second vines yeah oh right peavine I know it just died yesterday that's crazy it did a wheel released this list yesterday and bright as the plane he got out right at the right time but he he would basically post six second covers yeah and attracted a lot of attention got a record deal from that yeah and now he feels arenas crazy it's amazing he he has a another big song which is kind of his breakout song called stitches which has you know 500 million streams yeah so he's kicking but we're happy to have him on the top yeah and so when you guys are picking this list this is top 25 under 25 list is it is it a big conference room table nah it's not like a dramatic like white board table for one which is me no no no we we discuss you know with our genre experts you know who were the curators of these these top playlists that we're mentioning early you know there's a rap play later there's a rock playlist that's doing they're all doing really well Hot Country believe it or not is an incredibly popular okay listen on spotify so obviously you know i consulted these guys sure which had it at length about who are the artists who are popping in their playlists which is another thing that i factored in this year which was new as well as the monthly active monthly unique users yeah is how these songs are doing in playlists you know I used to focus da sure I used to I used to just focus on charts really our viral chart yeah popularity chart but this time I wanted to know which songs are doing well in playlists so so you mean like people at making a playlist and adding it yes if a sign of a hit or a sign of a song that is going to be a hit is a song that people don't skip sure as they're streaming a playlist if they listen to the song in its entirety that's an excellent sign yeah also a song that they save mm-hmm if they save a song that's a big check shirt yes I'd that song and it boots that artist standing we then Spotify yeah um so you mentioned saving and I so discovery playlist comes out every week right and it's designed for me and my tastes and i usually like it demise very nice but they tell me that i should save it if I like this mix right but if I save it that week and it changes over is a am i saving just that week's playlist I believe so by date cuz I don't know well have you tried no that's right i'm scared i believe you can't break it so we're finding more than what we're finding is that people don't save the whole playlist kathy you know we're never gonna get it completely right sure there are 30 songs in that you get it right oh we do sometimes citizen it's always gonna be at least one or two songs is more than i'm lazy right I just won't like individually save songs right well that takes a lot of time does but we do find that on average listeners and save at least one song from each discovery weekly playlist which comes out every monday and that's great yeah you think about that you know after in two months you're saving say up to ten songs which you've just discovered which you now like and maybe you're listening to on a regular basis um so yeah okay keepsafe say just say the songs you like yeah it's too i think it's too cumbersome to save the whole whole plan yes i think but if you're lazy there's a done button to say the whole thing that's pretty good but then you're gonna just accumulates women yeah i have a lot i'm all about keeping my Oh music well prunes you're saying it is yes it is we're talking about my music okay just to clarify but um should we go back to 25 oh yeah what if I've let me point out a few others we've got ariana grande sure she's only heard of her she's and how old is she she's got to be aging out pretty soon she's 20 she's 23 she's got a couple more years ago Joe she's been on this list out to pasture good time she'll join Britney in the past years of pop stardom well it's funny cuz we do you can't be 25 to be on the list and some of those genres pertz were saying to me here what about this artist he's great and I me like 25 he's 25 yep go on yeah but ariana is just incredible she just turns out hit after hit from her latest album dangerous woman and our listeners love her yes songs just go off off they're like more than 200 million streams age that kind of thing yeah we've got some rap in here of course wrapped very popular Spotify we have chance the rapper Chicago rapper who's kind of a bit gospel e okay and his mixtape coloring book has been one of them most sort of critically acclaimed of the year especially in the hip-hop genre here Obama is President Obama is a fan oh oh so so I saw the Obama mixes obviously he got my play in the summer playlist and the and was so was that was he included in that he wasn't okay that's where I probably heard it yet I don't know if you it was the day cuz Obama released to playlist yeah daytime some are listening and a nighttime I can't remember of chance was in the Sun them you know daytime or nighttime yeah we've also got EDM EDM is hugely popular Spotify and actually who's the young EDM kid right now well we've got a couple in this unless martin garrix is one he's so with an ex I garrix yep with an ex that seems very EDM accident I Skrillex covered that base really well oh there there is the ed immodest cold Zed okay but it's spelt ze DD I think so it could have just been Aziz outside of the US well in us via right well in Australia yeah in Australia we stay Zed I still have a hard time saying z feels very very strange but yeah he's a he's a heavy hitter I mean he's like in the top 60 out of civil time yes that makes sense if we were to rank all the artists in terms of who's streaming the most yeah at the moment he's like in the tops Wow is huge yeah another EDM artists whose on this list and I have to wonder do they like the term EDM cuz why not you think it's too broad electronic it's better than what it used to be good does electronic dance with the shoot there was a shorter electronica I guess techno exactly needs to be techno which I feel is derogatory at this point but that's kind of yeah no one wants to be called tec-9 I forgot about the techno days yeah there's another dude in this list who I'm a huge fan of his name's flume I'm playing one of his songs that'll never be like this he's Australian to which represent which is really why he's on this not true that's a dude No so far it doesn't sound like an EDM song hasn't yeah I could play that's an idiom staple is this one yeah it's good I've heard this song before q it does feel like dubstep has like moved away from that period of like this is just discordant noise and is much more melodic yeah i agree they've toned it down a little bit or just using this lab or like a beaver dubstep equivalent kind of like in that spirit of his last album when I first came across flume it was he did a remix of a disclosure song it's called you and me it's used in a TV commercial I can't remember the actual commercial better what the product is but it's there's a couple running and they're about to jump off a building okay of course they survive because they're under 25 sure but um it's a great song I want to play you a little bit of that and you must have heard this okay yes sir I have let's see this is kind of the song that put flume on the map flu what is strange names sounds like flu oh yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna fast-forward it this is like this is where it kicks into the course which you will have heard sorry Yeah right such a great yeah sound that I don't know just punch people it does sort of feel like the music they would play in like the w hotel at like ten o'clock at night and the lobby is that were you hang out that's right hang out oh really know where to find you yeah ten o'clock it you're not responding to my only the coolest you gotta tell um flume is that spelled like a flume ride like the water flume I don't know FL you Amy yeah and this guy just how old is he he's super young he's annoyingly young I haven't listed his age I think he's like 20 yeah he just got nominated for 11 aria awards which means nothing to you but it means a lot to me that's basically the Australian equivalent of the Grammy okay and he had the most nominations out of any artist I always find that fascinating that every country has their own like award shows that i might totally not looped into why would you be well but then so I heard about what is it the eurostar or like phenomenon which I didn't know about told it just this year well really in the last couple of years America started paying attention yeah cuz of streaming it's probably gets a stream because of us yeah right exactly and it's very it's like it's like a sports event it's like super bowl yeah and most of the songs are awful I noticed there are a few good song well it's interesting how different pop music and we're going back to the discussion about what is pop different pop is in different batteries and um in the UK we're night whenever I'm in London I am I I feel like I'm hearing the music and it's it just has a different sound to it it's like jeans you know what I mean jeans if you're walking in New York City you can pick out the people not from the US based on their jeans right because the cuts are so weird that's really right great analogy can I steal that you let it know jeez that is it Lily you know what I mean don't you yes some of them so some people will play me a song and they'll say this is gonna be a huge hit in the US and it's from a UK artist also well I'm not so sure because it sounds like a UK hit right and see you today do you think it's like they're behind like a year behind where we are is it just different I don't think they're behind because a lot of their stuff does cross over and just really well yeah and it you know bounces around the world and does really well it's just it's just a different sound that it appeals to a different audience yeah and that's what they I guess they get used to that it's familiar and then they might hear some American pop stuff and be like oh that's yeah kind of weird but then American pop does pretty well mm-hmm everywhere at least we noticed that speaking of pop I want to talk about this lady now her name's Holsey ok I'll halls esto es h al sey ok she's very buzzy at the moment everybody's talking about her because she is the featured singer on the biggest hit in the world at the moment the most popular song in the world really is a song by the chainsmokers ok that's called closer don't worry you miss nice i'm here to educate so just relax it's all right i'm stressed that i'm out of the loop don't be stressed this song streams about four and a half million times a day and has done since august just before you've heard this for sure yeah that's an issue ok so your friends it was nice to meet them this song is I I it's become this phenomenon and palsy sings she doesn't really come into the song till about a third of the way she featured her shoot did she write it she's featured it is a chain smoker got it the chain smokers are a New York DJ duo I don't know that you would call them EDM but they are EDM ish but is that them singing or is that why this is one of the guys I believe he's named Andrew taggat I sometimes mix up their names he is the he's one of the djs and he just sings on this song which is kind of a surprise cuz normally he's behind the board yeah the ones in two years they call it once as I understand it yes yes sounds a bit gross um but he's kind of done a calvin harris think calvin harris huge scottish DJ producer guy who has sung a couple of times on his songs yeah and he has like this guy a very understated voice its kind of doesn't sound like it's trying hard but it sounds nice though it's smooth and I think that's part of the appeal of this song I here comes Halsey the game let you catches why I left you yeah and she has been toiling away as in as a solo artist and she's released a lot of songs and albums but I think one or two Alvin's that um I've done okay there's a song called Americana which our listeners love but this song has just brought her to a whole new level and I think she's now going to really take off she's a sweet girl from New Jersey who has a great social media following but this song is really weird because it's not that amazingly no it's just like this sort of thing you would have in the background likely and it has this almost cheesy some people describe it as cheesy cynthy bit yeah in it and it's really nothing amazing about it but it's striking a chord with people and I have to admit it's striking a chord with me the song is actually about meeting up bumping into someone who you had a fling with ya four years ago okay you bump into them and you're attracted again sharp if flames it's like do you like pina coladas baby and getting caught in the rain I know right um and there's just something about the way they sing it about the lyrics that gets you yeah and I I don't fully understand it but I think a lot of people are having this strange experience with this song yeah it's also kind of a post summer you know like joys of summer oh yeah it's like it was like a summer fling that perhaps fizzled out now I love the boys of summer song by the way it's one of my fav nice place yeah let's hear that I do want to say while we're while we're playing by the summer which is an absolute classic it's interesting with these top 25 under 25 lists that the older you get the more likely it is that you're gonna appear on one of these lists ah so you're saying that most of these I'm saying if you're 300 years old you have 299 chances to be in a list so the let's get longer the older you get they do I'm you know I did suggest doing a 50 under 50 but that didn't go over no the too much effort I love that list well what about 40 / 40 that would a gun really wrong I feel like you need cuz it's clear you have the kids the kids are in right you need the adults you need the old people yeah so like appreciate and the jeff's of the world to appreciate Spotify as well yeah and maybe start making some all Celine Dion mixes I'm sure they were there very popular well you can find all that stuff and keep in mind she's loyal if she's still doing stuff Susan Boyle um her version of auld lang syne is one of the most stream songs really easy at the stroke drink oh yeah yeah sure so everyone has a bit of a soft spot there Susan what are you doing these days I feel like haven't heard for hope she's well I think I miss her yeah she didn't have a charm about her she was hilarious glorious so anyway there's that big song um there let's talk a little bit about rock which is kind of underrepresented these days sure feel this is a great band from the UK they're called nothing but thieves okay they have this great song wake-up call which I'm ling these guys every song that goes into our rock playlist which is called rock this it has about 2 million followers which is great it's growing every song that goes in there does really well listeners really really dig this ben yeah I mean this doesn't sound like I wouldn't call this pop right it's definitely and it's not hard rock lee always like Jeff Jeff was here he'd be like man right no it's it's like what a bunch of pussies like Jagger essentially it's a bad spirit of rock Oh kind of but it's kool aid to me it reminds me these guys remind me a little bit of Cain okay man is just yeah but they're perhaps a little hotter because they have guitars I was just piano um anyway I'm excited that that they're doing well and I'm I feel bad for rock yeah it's not it's not doing so well I mean it is do you think it's because it's it's more of an active choice whereas I guess a lot of people use Spotify is just like a background thing I think yeah maybe but also I was someone said this it might have been sting um in an interview recently thought just to you at a party no no i didn't i use viewed him less Oh lovely but um was he wearing the shirt which the shirt that he got his name from you don't know how why is called sting ah the stripey she had a stripey shirt I don't think he that would use him anymore cuz I think it was probably that's a few more new ones right I think he's also just kept in very good shape people still ask him how he got his name I'm the dude is like 65 years old if you haven't looked up right on i'll be the first line of his Wikipedia page is how you do not ask you that question it's ridiculous he complained to you about how people still ask him that no no but I just I just know that they do he's kind of a feat like he's just been around forever and still like he's just a phenom right he just released an album which actually since we're talking about rock is a bit of a return to rock yeah and it's called 50 seventh and ninth which is a corner of in New York City right nice who taught you sure that's a kitchen he effectively not the Marvel version the actual version it's Hell's Kitchen apparently there's a great hello sort of pop-up things yeah I kind of hate that neighborhood but yeah it's a bit noisy for me yeah it's not for me but um he that's where his studio was where he recorded the almond he liked walking and he completely ran out of but he was like I'll just here's the right here no well he loves to walk yes to walk around the city I've actually seen him more oh really City yeah he lives not far from where i used to live and i'm stalking that's very much in every breath you take do you know not really but his album is his first rock / pop album in about 12 or 13 years sure and I think he might argue that if you go back and look at some of the you know really big rock bands that solidified rock whether it's some van Halen turn pink floyd the rolling stones there are lots of them they were kind of um there were rebels yeah and i think i think these days people want really rebellious in the same way cuz i already been done right that's the issue people can't find that angle that's like oh this is a wholly unique sound right and so and how do you be rebellious with a tweet people are rebelling in different ways you know so i think that might have play into perhaps why rock is not as recognized your celebrated these days it doesn't stand out as much maybe sara lee it could be totally wrong yeah but i think that's it but sting considers us at rock album yeah yeah yeah i don't mean to play you so sure another one we go off track no I love doing your shows running the gamut this is his single I can't stop thinking about you oh wait this is the acoustic video let's not play that one he's performed it live on its heat or an hour I don't know if he's tearing actually he just toured with um uh oh my god what's his name white hair come on what's his name yeah but this sounds like police eresting it does sound like we waves of barley or whatever it was it sees a barley fields of gold yes which is his top songs yeah but if I and actually when I interviewed him last week I shared this interesting stat with him if you took all his streams on Spotify just his solo work not including his police stuff yeah and you lined up all those tracks one ups the other and play them curiously guess how many years of stings music would play throw out of how many years of state so years of how many years so if you dig me Oh of people listening this thing's music I'm not obviously I haven't explained why not okay take the number of streams that he's okay total stream title streams just for stings music yeah play all those songs back to back okay got it how long do you think his music will play for 50 years that makes sense doesn't it I don't know but it's actually much higher than that really it's 2035 whoa Jesus would man I think this thing at this point right thank you pretty good isn't that amazing yeah and when LOL nerds wash in cold and then it's awful the other shared um that's statistic with me it was like there's no way yeah there's just no way and when i shared it with sting he was like that can't be true right but when you do the math you break it down um it checks out yeah so 2000 same two thousand years almost enough to cover one sexual encounter with i was about to say he can probably sustained a psychic you probably right that all right have I want to point out one more artists from 25 under 25 and then we'll move on how about that sounds good um I feel bad I haven't really talked about rap we've got tory lane to his Drake under 25 he's not and actually I'm glad you brought that up yes the rap artist like Kendrick Lamar Drake who are you know Kanye West you're really pulling the massive audience on Spotify they're older right like Drake just turned 30 oh wow Kendrick i think is in his 30 very early thirties maybe even late 20s Kanye is in his third and easily I think about like like Tupac when he hit it big was not that young right right i snoop was so snoop came up and was like very young Eminem was pretty young but like a lot of the biggies baby so to speak yeah we're altar and I wonder if there's a level of maturity that's required there well obviously yeah I mean I don't know how I don't know if you necessarily hear a lot of maturity and a lot of the music but in some of it you do they like with two certainly like a lot of is like more deep like darker stuff yeah you you kind of need that nuance right to stand out these are artists who have lived a decent amount of life to have perspective on things and to express it in in richer ways yeah music so I found that interesting i was thinking you know i should be able to put some more rap artists on this list and I could have but it's hard it's hard because you've got an artist who has like six million monthly your listeners and then you've got artists who have like 25 billion you can't you can't ignore it but rap is huge huge on TV are very popular right yeah very popular such a great playlist too if you do want to keep in the know is who's doing well and rap and who's new on the scene you definitely want to follow that playlist let me take race rumored two brothers have better numbers there they are actually brothers they're related they have a song called black beetles which is doing really well in rap caviar at the moment and they've been on this list three years in a row I think they've got one more year in them before we have to throw them to the curb because they're too old but let me play you just one more song this is from an artist name daya she was featured in I'm going back to the chainsmokers who had the number one song they the chainsmokers had another big hit over the summer called don't let me down okay really big song a really great song and she was the singer on on that song she's really building up at the moment lovely seeing a songwriter she's from Pittsburgh and this is a song that's doing really well in today's top hits it's called sit still look pretty which is what i'm going to do for a few seconds so you can listen to this yes you know what it has a vibe of is the song that I was go out on Spotify called i think it's called whistle while you work it in my penguin I don't know if that's the title but that's a hook and um Katie tues I guess as Katie tis oh I don't know who's this song let me check I like the Sun this is it yeah this is my pump up song pump up song so what does that mean wendys your skin Ian did you listen to it before I arrived yeah is this so i get piped like it right it's good and classic example of a pop song which infuses a bit of EDM yep which is why it's a good pump up yeah isn't it it is indeed yeah kept he keeps me up on driving good stuff that's good so important to be awake when you're driving there something i read an article online about a music psychologist pinpointed a song that's really relaxing it's like he thinks it's the most relaxing song in the world so dangerous listen to it to destress right what don't listen to it while you drive what song is it I come on oh my god dangerously I'll get up it's just it's an instrument what is this one we can fall asleep I'd new stuff this one it's very slow and soothing and I juice into it while I was just sick waves of go a wee of whatever field the ball that's very soon but it would make you drowsy yeah driving very dangerous yes um right now we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back ok big shout out to Vega coffee our new sponsor it is a new day so try a new coffee today's sponsor beg a coffee is revolutionising the coffee industry vega coffee offers single-origin coffees direct from farmers in nicaragua to your doorstep and on your schedule each coffee delivery is carefully curated to bring you the most exquisite flavors from specialty micro lots every batch is made up 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Vega coffee calm that's ve G a coffee calm sign up for a subscription and enter the promo code the 404 show all one word no spaces the 404 show at checkout and get your first bag for hurry don't forget go to be eg a coffee dot-com enter the 404 code and you're gonna get that first bag free that is nice free is good sign up now welcome back to the 404 we're here with Shannon kook from Spotify I did want to we don't have a ton of time left but I taught me about your you have something you wanna share right exactly so do you want to get off your chest we've already heard your pump up song what about my pump up song so everyone so while I go to karaoke do do karaoke at all I am deathly afraid of care you've never done it never done it really I'm I'm embarrassed by my reluctance right you do need to be somewhat drunk especially the first time but certainly even afterwards it really helps yeah um which kind of also reaffirms why like van Halen all those groups got like faced right it's cuz it's you know you and put yourself out there yeah so I've been doing karaoke not like religious probably like once every six months or eight months or so right and what I found was there are so many great songs that are terrible for karaoke because they're too long or they have too much build-up or they whatever so I basically whenever I do karaoke and I like hear a song that someone else singing that I think is good for karaoke or I hear a song on the radio that I think it's Karen I write it in my phone under a doc called karaoke and this is the doc and I'm not going to read it you can pick whatever you'd like out of it have have a little hint that you have and the ones with triple stars on them are ones that I've sang and they went over really well well one of them is an absolutely beautiful song and that's kiss from a rose by seal right it's very do you tell me this do you sing the data yeah you sing on that as well cuz that's seal singing that song I know if seals things that I gotta sing it you know he's put himself out there I gotta do it the same okay this is a great carrier song Ouisa say it ain't so right that is a great song right absolutely I can see you kind of drunk just I mean your eyes closed do you sing these with your eyes sometimes yes when the emotion gets me I need to close my eyes um the song song oh so i have not had the balls you'll you'll notice that one has not been gr i just like that sorry doctor I language song he sang the courage to sing that song just because there's a lot it's very quick you know what the words really do and that's really the key a good karaoke as well as knowing all the words so we can play my favorite karaoke song right now which is Harvey danger 5 polska is my favorite right now I don't know this song euni definitely yeah Harvey danger you definitely know the song was lag pole-sitter yeah I'm not sick that I'm Brian doesn't like Brian our producer does not like the fact that i like this song is judging me for it that's a good son right when you do yeah yeah yep yeah that's a good one cuz he did me Ellis is interesting because this is a real mix you know what um you've got let it go frozen that impresses me cuz that is a hot song yeah that's that's three shots in I'm a shower singer I I won't do karaoke but I was built sure song in the shower and that's one of my shower so yeah cuz cuz my my daughter's this intuitive and the acoustics are so good in the shower and you've also got a song that I listen to a lot um when it came out and cuz it's by an Aussie artist yeah Natalie Imbruglia oh yeah I love this nah delicious from Australia oh she's an Aussie she's one of ours in that cute video where she does that cute dance yeah this is a great song it is I like your new I karaoke playlist thank you and third eye blind semi charmed yeah that's another one of my fav ones how great is this song line great tune great tune I miss her she still makes music it's hard to give it a second mega hit it is really tough this was a great son this is reminding me of my youthful Australian days yeah this is great well which is your favourite boy with it yeah I so I say it goes in waves what to Peyton I let me ask you sure what song of you song and people there I assume you know by yourself no dude Carol I dunno thank your dad carry that would be very sad yes i would have to the first time i would have to do it but there are those ringers though you go to karaoke and they'll be like the guy that goes every night and like is like I've seen guys fully dressed in like a suit and they go up there and no one is in the crowd for them but they just like the performance reads like doing like open mics damn right we're right I have a friend who does that and I think she's she's she's she's got balls yeah it takes balls um what which song from this list if you song and people listening have gone that was great um I've got that from kiss from a rose um I've she sees me maybe oh yeah you've heard the call me maybe yeah that's good that's pretty good gin and juice I've gotten it and yes a check guys laughing yeah Brian appreciate yeah yeah so Jin Joos well a few rap songs I know all the words to so that is not really seeing my skinny super pale ass singing gin and juice is very comical I don't know no because it is not appropriate for this I don't want to it I so angry yeah it gets a little hairy do you know what I want to do karaoke with you one day absolutely I would love to bring me out of my karaoke shell yes one hundred percent I feel like if you can do it I we gotta get some sound like a conference it takes a lack of shame that's really can i have that i have a complete luck i'm sonya like you know substances there was good job of diminishing that cheers just something that I think I sing quite nicely getting honest I'm in okay singer I'll sometimes sing in the you know in public toilets okay i'm in my stole and i'll say really and I've heard people in now like mom I can't like what level are you singing yet loud enough where I think I'm alone okay and then I'll hear someone say you have a nice voice that's very awkward and I've done a lot of live TV stuff especially at CNN and to warm up my voice I would go to the restroom where the acoustics are great and I would sing yeah hi Mike gotta watch yourself and I should have really checked to make sure all the stalls were empty before this but sometimes people would come out and say that was really nice so you're ready for it I am but I'm so afraid yeah hang in front of people like as soon as I find out some stranger in the toilets was listening I shut down sure that's a tough situation but I think alcohol could ya oh it does make yourself it is the miracle drug it really is well thank you so much for coming in is there anything else you want to share before we close the show have fun voting on Monday oh yes very exciting you won't be voting right excuse are you I'm American I didn't know your sister my dad's American oh no he was born in an Abba michigan's so were you born a citizen I was born yes oh well i was born in australia but I dual says I do have dual citizenship but I believe that's not actually accepted anymore so don't tell anyone oh the truth comes out to be thrown in yeah jail I'm the pokey well that's very cool so we'll all be voting yes it's a thrilling reward and thankfully I live in the district right off the wait for six hours but for the people that do have to wait for six hours stick it out further this way it is this is an important one yes don't be shy absolutely um well thank you thank you so much for joining us and thank you at home for listening Jeff should be back next week to join us and we might have jordan hoffman on to talk about actually that's in a couple weeks so so scratch that we do have a special guest but i will not tell you who it is because it's a very nice surprise but anyway thank you so much for listening as usual i am ross rustic and this has been the 404 high-tech lowbrow all the other things that jeff says it's very good at it