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I hey what's up everybody it is Friday April first 2016 I thank you so much for tuning in to the 404 show I'm having a great day so far Russ rustic how you doing bro i goddamn hate it buckles that this it's pretty bad this bed it's bad although there was a moment when I woke up this morning and I tried to prank my fiancee in a very minor way did you did you pretend to leave her cuz that's kind of funny that it's pretty funny no hacker I was like building up to doing some lame like whatever to show her a picture on the internet that she was gonna believe or something like that but she was like really sick and I was like whoa pump the brakes oh maybe I don't go ahead and go all it breaks um yeah so yeah there would there was a time in my life when I like really got a lot of enjoyment out of like hey what was blizzard gonna do and they're goofy stuff there was a time okay that was about seven or eight years I thought you're gonna say before there was an Internet no because that's when I remember enjoying april fools it is a very mean-spirited holiday it is such a dumb thing yeah and the internet just makes so much worse we don't spend time on this because every April Fool's comes comes around yeah and all we do is talk yeah it's just the file oh boy right any april fools let's yeah and if I man there's I what bothers me the most is like I feel like by now it's so out of vogue in like not cool at all yeah but we're like five years beyond a pencil on the Internet yes but then when you get like one of those fake press releases from a company it's like we've changed our name to snuggle dick and you're like what no come on i mean it's just like people being out of touch and saying hey this is gonna be cool mario's now waluigi did you get that new snaggle dick bluetooth it had fun Thank Remo Remo snaggle dick yeah great brand oh great brand tough to get that Twitter handle it is uh so we got a lot to talk about today we're gonna we're gonna I'm gonna open the door to a part of my life that's uh that's brand new but weird and can and I think you're building it up too much but yeah I don't know how I feel about this but I want to talk about it because it's it's something that I just got to get out there yeah uh but first we're going to talk about a video game that before you reach for the controls and you hang up on us and just go all I don't want to listen to this these two guys are gonna get nutty about this this game let me set this up set it up how do you feel about game thrones I like it a great deal come back soon right yeah it is come back soon how do you feel about the actor who plays little finger uh you should your melee we can I give me a good little finger like an impersonation yeah I'm gonna be like I really can't you see you have to follow your sister up and marry me okay needs work but let's work shot well so here's the deal that's just from memory writer Ivan sketch showing a while yeah you know but you did just play corner breaking he is in quantum break he's in quantum break but he doesn't have little fingers voice now I tried like an American act give me a thing that he says what does he say in what in Thrones what does he say he says uh you're just as pretty as your mother won't just as pretty as your mother was yeah I'm not but I'm not I'm not bad at okay you're working i'm gonna get rid of it i'm gonna really good so we got we got him he's in this game joining him is lance reddick who you might know from the wire he is one of the coolest looking human beings alive um super tall skinny black guy that but he's like deep voice awesome powerful a piercing eyes piercing eyes mega bald he is he's like one of the baldest guys you can't be like now he's dicked hela yeah he's baked and like five minutes go by and he picks again like this real question I've never seen him with the slightest hint of hair yeah so Lance Reddick's in this game Shawn Ashmore is in this game he was Iceman and the x-men series he was also in Animorphs if you watched animorphs when I was a kid show I didn't watch it so before my place he plays ice men in two and three two three I think he's in the days of future past as well is he I think he's in that like future universe uh and dies or something yeah I guess they all die they all kind of future dies yeah yeah okay so yea he is in days your yeah so Shawn Ashmore it's a good kid games got a good cast good cat so you're setting it up tell it explain to people people people maybe don't know what quantum break is gonna break is a game that was made by the people that made Max Payne they made a game called Alan Wake you've heard of these people right remedy is the studio and quantum break is basically a time travel story mad scientist you know builds a time machine things go awry guy has to get super power time controlling superpowers that has to fix time and it's like a shooting action game mixed with like a weird interactive story game adventure game I would say right so i think the obviously the biggest talking point for this game has got to be the fact that they shot yeah four episodes of TV yeah for 22 minute episodes of fully live-action television with all these actors on sets I mean a lot of its green screen but on sets and like shot it and at the end of every act every act in the game takes about an hour to play through it's like whatever normal three third person action game you sit through a 22 minute episode of the show and based on the decisions that you make in the game it impacts the show so you'll see different scenes based on your decisions um let me it's tough because this is now I don't want to give them like too much credit I so in a we both reviewed it you were Mashable I did obviously foreseen it um what was your takeaway sure so the the big takeaway I would say is it's obviously very ambitious that they did this but it's also very clear that no one that was involved in the making of the TV show knows how to make like really high quality television program I think the production value of this show falls somewhere between like early episodes of 24 yeah and yeah that might be giving in too much credit and a sci-fi channel production it feels like kind of like you know those network procedural shows that show up for six episodes every here and get canceled almost instantly because no one watches them that's what this feels like it's just like all the characters are like very surface and like blah and the like there's like actually they clearly spent money there's like race you know chase car chase scenes stuff like that the queer we spent money and effort but it's just like very like none of the characters are interesting there's like this lame IT character that keeps showing up and you're like what what am i watching yeah there's a lot many times and and like a lot of pilots arm you know you find yourself sort of saying hey how can I uh get past this like right is in and and for me the first first episode was the toughest to get around and but once I got beyond that yeah um I kind of you liked it I kind of liked it I I I was at the point where I was like you know what I finish this act I'm gonna sit back and watch this and I'm kind of interested to see what happens yeah again I totally agree all the characters and some of that's not working right there's like a really pathetic love relationship they try and they try and evolve a little bit uh one of the characters in the show has no real reason to exist yeah uh it's there's just there's a lot of weirdness there and the interesting thing behind this why they did this is that Microsoft did this big push called Microsoft Studios was a big initiative they were basically going to make programming and movies based on all these Microsoft properties etc and this was essentially so it's done now like they basically folded that effort and this is sort of the last vestige of it existing and I mean it was obviously very expensive and but you can certainly see why things are not going down the right road because the output I mean it's it's not the worst ever like it's not like I want to jump off a building every time i want but it's just like so blah mediocre like it's a little pedestrian it's very pedestrian and it's a shame because I'm a huge fan of remedy I love their work I love Sam Blake whose like the lead I creative director I like his writing a lot and I think the problem that I had with this game in the show and everything where he's really good and we're remedies really good is when um they do really weird stuff and they touch on it'll it's weird because it's a time-travel whatever you would think it'd be full of weird that's like kind of mainstream but it feels very safe the time travel yeah and just towards the end they start doing a little bit of weird stuff with like weird time travel affected creatures and like that but it's very under the surface and it just feels very predictable and sort of like follows a very predictable road for a time travel story and that's a shame like he I think excels went like Max Payne has weird like satanic stuff oh my god it's so if you like if you haven't played the first max payne la go bad really it holds up yeah it's really great and Alan Wake obviously had a tunnel weird stuff in it yeah you know inspired by twin peaks and all that but like very weird and and this just never really sticks the landing it just feels like a very safe game and it's and it's as a game not bad it's like an action game it's fine did you give it a score and now they don't score okay I could probably I mean I don't know I didn't score it either we don't do scores either but this feels like a seven yeah like a seven to me yeah it's not a bad game um it feels safe uh certain parts are like really cool like this there's a sequence where like a boat is falling over on its side repeatedly yeah and it just looks like unbelievable right and I think that's definitely worth talking about um the the graph that the visuals in this game will blow you away I think they really like pushed and I know we're kind of early into Xbox ones you know wife's idea who knows if they're gonna upgrade and all that junk but like that it is very clear they pushed this console to its limit yeah and at some points probably too far because there's there's texture pop-in there's like blurring to get like the frames oh yeah a job there's a lot of trickery happening yet to make this game but it does look really pretty it does up but but so like that's the whole thing so so you know understand that not why we're talking about this we don't really get into video games too much because you know we cut like to keep general but this is a unique thing they're trying something different and I think that needs to be uh I don't wanna say necessarily applauded but it needs to be it's appreciate it bums me out because like I really do want to like shout from the heavens like this is a game you need to play right but I can't do that I can't do that and I sort of feel the same way about like games like quantum bruh what was it quite the Quantic Dream games oh um like beyond yeah beyond stuff like that we're like they're clearly trying something crazy in it like inventive and you want to apply it but if they don't really land the like storytelling and stuff like that you know it's hard to recommend although there was what was until dawn I didn't play it but I heard a lot of people love that game until dawn is still the the I think the best attempt at this yeah and I don't want to say until dawn is doing the same thing quantum break is trying to do it but but if you were to put a category together filled of like super cinematically ambitious games that probably what you have in there but um but and then you know so that's fine like the the the whole TV show thing it's cool on the surface yes it's it's definitely uh I'm not worse for having experienced that I'm glad I did it here um again this game I was like constantly trying to fall in love with but just couldn't make the total commitment but then like I want to I want to go back real quick to like how this game plays yeah and I don't think this game plays all that well I didn't I've spoken a lot of people and they've had sort of varying opinions on it I know people like felt like it was like a really crummy take on max payne i don't think it's that bad I just think it's like very cookie cutter yeah go in this room clear that go on this room clear it doesn't have a lot of depth to it like you basically see most of like your toolbox within the first hour to of the game right and they're not terribly long but that's that's fine but like enemy variations really not there there's like maybe four enemies arm you know I think it's tough and I get it like this is a super complicated juggling act a lot of spinning plates uh but yeah you know it's you know look but it's also like Ice Man vs little finger so you're like watching like all these guys they're really kind of into it and when you watch the live action stuff I feel like some of the actors you can tell that they're like I'm part of something important yeah then the others are some of the others like oh my god what am I like I'm following my aging kind of stuff I'm sure they got a good paycheck for this yeah hopefully and in terms of work it was probably not that much work um the one last thing i do want to mention i talked about the fact that the storyline and the show changes based on your choices in the game but when they give you choices in the game more often than not it's like one is the most brain-dead choice you could pick right and one is like the logical obvious choice right there'd be there's like a moment where it's like do you take the medicine to save your life or do you die horribly yeah like and on weird thing about that too is like they kind of turned the tables so you're playing as the good guy Shawn Ashmore all time but then when they give you these pivotal junction point decision-making branches you play as little finger you plays like the bad guy right so I thought that was a little weird I thought it was fine I thought was interesting I didn't bother me and I like the way those choices play out especially the first choice which I think comes into play a lot more you basically choose like do I murder all these innocent people right or do I like use them as leverage to like make the city love me and by picking one or the other it there are several scenes throughout the entire game that change there's like a scene later on if you pick the nice option we're like cops are like giving people coffee at a checkpoint yeah if you don't do that like it's a much darker scenes so it's pretty interesting yeah it's a great-looking game up probably the best-looking xbox one game out there yeah I think that's true um but you know that and that's the kind of thing the reviews are all over the place yeah which I thought was I haven't seen like tens ah I feel like I saw a couple 90 really where I was like all right it seems generous all right that's maybe a little high but if you're if you are interested in want to know more about it hit us up on Twitter and well I'm happy to yep to dive a little deeper on quantum break yeah it's crazy he's got a he's good at faking his American accent aidan gillen pretty good Irish right yeah he's Irish I so he was in the wire as was Lance Reddick and he put in the wire he ran for mayor I guess and had like a very strong Baltimore accent and those accents are much easier I think for non-english speakers to pull off because you can really sort of camouflage your original accent and like heavy like if you're doing a Boston accent it's a cop it's easy it's easier um but here he's just doing is just like it a like non a you know nan regional accent and I mean maybe it's because I know but I can kind of tell you can hear it you know working you know where I always notice it with non English American accents is the word everything if you hear people that are doing an American accent they say everything they'll do say something like everything mmm it's weird and very consistent keep your area but I always that yeah certain words just like and I guess you can't stop you can't be like nope sorry dr. house that's not how we say it here in America have to go back to a couple months training I'd have to get this didn't you perfectly okay let's get back to some other news of the week last night Elon Musk and all of his would you call him lucky I is a luminary and all of his luminary glory it's funny cuz the little finger character feels like very much like Elon Musk duh like an evil Leela like you're right but who that's the point is lying back for you and took you off yeah okay he could be evil like Elon Musk could very easily be evil mmm and we would we need him but we need him but that's the whole point is like he might flip switch and like decide like whoa sorry everyone third of the world needs to get smallpox now look and the only way we're gonna survive I feel like if he came out one day and was like look I'm changing the oxygen and I was like what do you mean he's like yeah I I'm just doing it you're not gonna be able to stop me I'm changing me 03 now yeah it's over i'm adding one more molecule of uh yes what's happening that's it up it's gonna be great unfortunately half of the world will die but you know what the rest of wolf really Rock right the omelet I'm making eggs breaking is necessary but yeah that's pretty cool it comes out last night and debuts the tesla model for me did you hear about the naming convention for the three models of tesla uh is it am I gonna be happy about that I think it's funny okay go on No do you know what the three models are uh it's the Model S yep the Model X right oh my god sex so apparently i just read it Bryce I just realized that I so apparently IE one wanted so the three models to be sex so that model s.e.x but Ford owns the rights to the model e so he couldn't do e so he went with three and the logo for is like three horizontal lines guess what totally made-up it's an april fools joke a serious but it's pretty funny I'm sure as an april fools joke there's no way that's true i saw today oh it is weird that it's said is weird that it's x it's like seeing the clouds in aladdin being like Nick they spelled sex now that and you son of a bitch I'm 98% sure that that's it it doesn't make any simple like I was gonna say that's lame what do you mean like who oh you're such a badass Elon Musk you making your cars spell out the word sex get a life you loser no one that brilliant would care about something as petty and trivial as spelling out sex with the name of his oh hey so maybe I was wrong it's real it's a little weird this is a coil or fake it's very silly I said quote from we can't believe anything today this is from jul jun 3 2014 and this is when ford basically stopped them from using the model e and musk said I was like okay for it is killing sex so there you go apparently he did want that I don't know how I feel about all that hard to believe anything have you been boozing yes we need to believe that I feel like we don't you believe what you want like I said and I still maintain this it's I like who is this guy to do that that is so lame it's pretty lame it's not like some cool word it's just a word sex what are you in fourth grade yeah that would have said in the kind of just at sex in liking I that's the thing was lying that's the they're all were they just know the boner is real the boner is not yes Israel you will movies them in mermaid little mermaid the priest has about the priest doesn't have a boner why would they do that because animators are bored and they could sneak it in and now at the animator with his nerd friends are like check out the boner I put in that kid's movie and there was like oh there's a bunch of dildos on the cover that movie teens like saying that the dick in a teen wolf is not real when it obviously is the dick teen wolf to Teen Wolf one actually at the end of Teen Wolf one there's just a dick they win the basketball game and everyone stands up the cheer and someone in the crowd has his pants fully open and there's a straight-up dick now recent releases the movie do not have this but the internet thankfully has not forgotten I feel like that's cut from the same idea of like oh there's a small person in Wizard of Oz who hangs him but this you could see the dick so that's where it's different because that Wizard of Oz thing is not that is not really right it's like a sandbag right man it's not nice to compare sandbags the little people though I didn't say that the person's way out of frame yeah way out of a way out of in the four in the background yeah um oh man I'm excited about this car that right back to the freak are you freaking sabotage this whole train of thought bright model three yeah 35 Fowler's how how is it so cheap they gotta be eating on every purchase right well you don't need to build an engine that's got to be pretty cheap so then why is the model s not my driveway neon lights and stuff now that's what it is halogen lights really put us over there expensive this thing and not only that it's a sexy-looking call it's very cool looking it's yeah I don't know is the dope car it looks really good yeah they're so they're gonna get 215 miles on a charge like an RS 8 I guess an RS ATF what the hell's that the car okay uh you know it's just a good-looking car it's got an unbelievable sort of uh ceiling look at the ceiling in this car describe that ceiling is it all that own piece of curved glass I don't know is it what is it basically like a giant moon roof that it appears to be a giant moon roof that extends from like the trunk to the windshield like it's all one piece of glass is there an inside the car picture it looks like that I don't believe it actually is now oh gotcha yeah that'd be amazing it's a beautiful it's a beautiful car and these cars are very safe to drive apparently cuz you know because of all that extra space there's like I guess more protection mm-hmm and I know it constantly wings yeah right I know it constantly wins all the safety of tests you know regulation braiding yeah it's pretty crazy so the I guess the question is can they keep up with demand because right now they have 150,000 pre-order 150,000 pre-orders which it's also kinda think about that right now that is so many cars it's also it's a lot of cars and it's also weird to think about like oh I need a car but I can wait until next year to have it well think about it I guess if you have a lonely have to put a thousand dollars down sure okay that's which is still a thousand dollars Donny there's cars not gonna be coming out until late next year so if you have a lease that's running out around that time maybe you like make sense yeah man yeah i would buy that a heartbeat I think I you would oh my should I go by this color by the car if I put if I buy this car now I ain't getting it till 2018 oh that's right yeah probably I'm a hundred fifty thousand pre-order I'm one hundred fifty thousand and one what do you drive now uh I have a subaru forester okay you've been in that car I have yeah so it's a nice Carlo's probably well you I was gonna say you'd lose the trunk space but this actually has probably more storage trunk in the front trunk in the front and the back junk in the front and the back I see I don't know if I would get this because I kind of uh fell in love like the whole SUV thing a little bit oh really and if I'm gonna get another car I don't want like a fun car it seems like it'd be fun I don't know if this yeah maybe it's very practical it'sit's maybe it's a little too practice taking three where would you have a problem with the range it situation 250 15 yeah I don't think that's I don't I mean it's significantly less than up tank a gas yeah it's probably like a hundred miles give or take guess because I've never recharged a battery I don't know like how long does it take I know they all super fast it's all good man they'll just redo the firmware right and you'll get a hundred more vines out of it ah I'm super stoked about it and look like you know calls fanboys costs whatever you want we're just excited that like this is a thing that's really happening it's super this'll this will be the like the entry-level to affordable you know fully electric car now I know you're gonna be like what about the Chevy bolt and the other the other cars out there okay fine I mean look Tesla's got a really good brand right now like I can't see someone putting these two cars side-by-side yeah similarly priced and being like I'm gonna go with the Honda I want the bolt you want the bed asked Tesla it's amazing and it's got the software running behind it crazy awesome software and it looks cool man yeah I want that car I would get in black yep give me any black I want just like black but like a yellow lightning bolt on the side to indicate that's electric car to indicate because because electricity is yellow right as we all know or maybe I get this charcoal cover color that they God yeah it's hot yeah i don't know like it's interesting cuz i feel like uh oh man that charcoal is sexy look at that dude that is a good-looking car yeah and i love the wheels to they got these like all blacked out wheels that's the car for me right they have they figured out the equivalent of like so okay you've got to watch your car but that's not like a mission zero because you're charging it up and the power coming from the outlet has to come from somewhere and it comes from a power plant and that power plant has run off run off carbs so have they figured out like how much effectively how much carbon you're releasing based on like a single charge of your car well I'm sure someone's done it yeah I'm sure Elon Musk is talk about it sure but like you understand I mean I don't to explain this to you but we're but your combustible engine car is puking carbon dioxide out into the atmosphere right but so is the power plant it is right but I don't think it's the same level of illusion right I would think not yeah you I would think like someone would have done the story be like oh no Tessa so bad like they're actually pouring oil and I guess you also have the bench carbon monoxide or dioxide carbon monoxide yeah I guess that's what yeah it's Carmen oxen yeah sure the but yes monoxide right I guess that's well first of all I guess it come from a nuclear power plant so then it wouldn't be like fossil fuels for one thing and secondly you could have a power plant like way out in the middle of nowhere and although that would still pollute the planet it wouldn't necessarily be in a city sensor is center so you wouldn't have liked the Beijing problem of like oh my god can't breathe outside this country is gray yeah yeah so it's interesting I definitely want one if I drove around I what I feel like a mile thing is like okay well one day we're just going to wake up and there's gonna be like 50,000 Tesla's in the city where are they all going to charge right that to me is the biggest logistical issue I can see you're just gonna yeah I mean there's a lot of these supercharger stations right but eventually I think there's going to a be like a default agreed upon charging thing in the same way that's like a default gasoline thing yeah but they're kind of is like so the supercharger right so is adapters to write so if that effectively applies to all kinds of cars and all model I get what they won't all be Tesla's other companies are going to catch up and so then you know every parking garage or whatever is going to have one of these may be at every spot because why not yeah I super interesting I started talking about this before and then I kind of cut my myself off I feel like you know my dad's like a big car guy yeah he's super into cars yeah and I and he I think he understands like how badass that that model as Tesla is yeah um it's at the high end most high and won it oh there's only three there's my SUV the ass oh yeah and then the SUV is the X I've got it okay and it all spells sex says on purpose yeah uh yeah I feel like he's seen them as being all this badass car yeah totally but I feel like there's a part of him that's just like well screw that car doesn't have gas in it when you're also i don't think gonna get the same like like they're quite a silent right so you don't get the same i grew there is no from its right well it's like driving a golf cart or just like yeah not as satisfying as i go zero to 60 in every seconds or something like the idea of like a super golf cart is pretty enticing but you will destroy like in a 0 to 60 yeah you know trial you'll destroy mmm the majority of the cars on the road yeah I guess I don't really know what a norm dangerous eat your dust yeah okay that's pretty good like that s that model s is fast ya feel like you don't often get into those scenarios that were you can go from zero to 60 like you'd have to be red light on a hot on a highway right now there's red lights on like 55 mile an hour yeah okay I'll wear and that's you know nobody goes 55 for us no you can't drive 55 oh wow that's okay with that awful cliche we will move right along i wanna i want to get a weight lately i want to talk about something yeah yeah yeahs vision because it's a good segue okay I've never driven as much as i did over the last past week when i was in austin in my life sedro you rented a car that i rented a car maybe do in there i was just it was just like a mini break mini vacation hadn't taken like a break really in two years 20 fiance took my fiance we went down there visit some friends would you eat a lot did you go to Salt Lick didn't go to Salt Lake we did bring some BBQ back Boston's a great sitting why is that not my belly right now because it's bad now mmm real bad it's it's two weeks old don't think you want it hmm Austin's a great city I never been yeah it's it's it's uh it's the most acceptable Texas yes it's accurate I said that when I was ever a bachelor party and I got really drunk one night I kept going up to everybody that I've been like this is the most acceptable Texas they do except they do I know that and so far as like I was in a restaurant and someone was like what do you think of Texas and then stopped himself he's like well not really Texas right I'm not blue city text yeah it's uh it's great I mean the food was amazing I xmax and barbecue as you mentioned and and it's like we went kayaking on the river and hiking and all sorts of crazy stuff like Travis went to Lake Travis had fried chicken and waffles right on the shores like Travis yeah hell yeah so I did want to mention the Segway that I want to mention is that I rented this car a Ford Fiesta cuz it was the cheapest what the hell is the fiesta it's like a little compact it's a four-door but it's like this cute little like bug of a car it kind of looks I mean you'll see it it's about it no no it's the one the blue one on the right oh I got Jack guy making it would all say a hatchback it's a little hatchback baby car and superwoman okay well but I I accenture was like so what is the cheapest cuz i won care when you drove it was it just farting out bubbles yeah base is like music rainbow yeah okay but uh yeah I hadn't driven cuz i grew up in Westchester and I drove up there but again I was like driving a school and stuff like that and then I moved to Boston didn't have a car there I now live in the city don't have a car here right so you know at most maybe every year I'll Drive like three or four hours and here are driving every single day and not only that i was in this little baby car right surrounded by ford f-150s because it's texas it it might not be you know Texas Texas but they have a lot of trucks now and like all people fashionably wear cowboy boots yes which is Matt Stairs the Hat yeah yeah and like a I'm account they're functional yeah I'm a cowboy now okay go on I work at Kinkos yeah I count goes by Geico yeah yeah um but it's it's kind of intimidating to start driving if you haven't done it in a really long time and I get her tense oh oh no I didn't get like road rage or anything but like like I insist on getting the GPS because I knew that I would at my fiance non-stop for like where's the turn where's the turn so why don't you just like put put your phone up on the dash no but there's no like grabber for it so I just like paid the 15 hours a day for the gps for a garmin for a crappy garmin at least I could like stick it up there yeah yeah but it was it was a great city i really liked it I did realize like waiting in line is a big thing in Austin especially for barbecue yeah um so if you tried to go to this place called love barbecue okay the big one is called Franklin's so if you want to go to get the quote best barber i right we go to Franklin's Franklin's we were hear stories of people showing up at seven thirty in the morning silly and not being fed until four yeah it's ridiculous uh so we like don't do that for private don't do that so we went to this place la barbecue we show up it's 2pm the line is like two hours long oh my kind of and it's like in the hot Sun and it's like 85 is nice weather it's not midsummer awesome but like we're not doing this so we went to it found another side little barbecue place and had Nicole Cooper's okay really tasty and it's my rule of thumb is like I'm not gonna wait that long for anything like I'm sorry doesn't matter not worth it it just doesn't to me just like that doesn't make sense right after a while yeah it's a point of pride thing but like there's nothing like that like what is the New York equivalent of that cronuts wait in line for food for that long I don't think you do it at all right you don't i I just there's nothing here I mean maybe it whatever is like the flavor of the week right right or I guess needs to go on like Disneyland and waiting in line for space mountain or something maybe I'm trying to think of the plate Oh smokehouse BB q I think I went to okay maybe the I don't remember but it's a lovely City I like the fact that everything is 20 minutes away it's true very easy to get around did you go to Rainey Street we oh no that we did not go to rank we went to south congress which was like a cool little spot right we were on sixth Street yep we stated a haunted hotel on 6th Street a vehicle that is cool um and you know went around and and and just sort of experience it for the first time it was really it was it was a cool spot it's a rat it's around town and and looking at house prices makes me depressed right now you're not supposed to look at Wright State when you're inside of a new york city bubble it was super depressing dude the worst is like you go on uh you watch these these shows on hgtv out of the flip flip your house show and these people are buying like 4,000 square-foot houses for like 300 grand and you're like what my wat six or seven murders happen there but it no they were mostly peaceful murders not the not even the flipping like the shows where they get some you know ugly couple oh yeah you know say hey Joan and bread are you know they're looking for from new hampshire house to grow their family and have to and have dogs yeah uh and on and then on the other side of it have you ever seen this have you seen this stupid stupid ass show where like they these people are looking for like microhouses what I I think I saw a clip of it were they there was one that was in London where it was like well here's all you can afford and it's like six feet wide by like 12 feet long and that the whole house right but like these people on this show are actively pursuing oh that's what they like they want to really I was only like you want to live in like a little like container box yeah like they want to live in a closet right and these people are so dead set on it and I mean yeah the houses are like 50 thousand dollars if I'm like that's all or like 30,000 right that's it but it's like not even a room I'm just like I did a shower there's the showers always like the shower and toilet or like together and I just don't understand I and people are gonna write in and be like oh you're you're not sensitive to people's financial things are just like I don't think it's a financial thing I don't know like these people they're not they're not like I need to really add you know downsize it's not like that they just want to lead these super uh you know simple simple I guess if you were living like imagine you're living in somewhere like really rural but beautiful so like in the middle of like Yellowstone National Park obviously you can't live there but just for argument's sake and I don't think you two people could really do it but sure let's say they could like that seems like it'd be pretty cool to like have this tiny little spot that you sleep and read or whatever in and then the rest of the day you like go outside and you hike and you do whatever that's the thing like they walk in and they're like we could entertain here like no I can't know that only your hand head to the line gets drawn and that's what it I get it if you want to be the supers uh uh you know minimalist and you wanna like have this totally carefree water down low I get it you want like don't nature don't expel all in the front door and be like all I could really see us hanging out here and like no you're buying a box yeah with wheels on it and that's where you're gonna live yeah and then they bring they every now and then the like bring someone from the real world yeah to just be like I've try to talk them out of it be like look Larry you should not buy this five by five little box right yeah I think it's a bad move and just like the look on their faces amazing I'm just like you know this is seems awful but if you like if it was like a summer box that'd be kind of nice like there's always like funny like really miniature landscaping leading up oh yeah yeah we're just like playing a path like a rock my god they really took care of it yeah hope it doesn't you know have a hope it doesn't be was not windy here yeah I can't climb up a ladder to get to my bed anymore I'm sorry no way no free second hundred twenty I swore that off it's so weird the show like the first time I saw that show mike is this a joke are these people even the realtors are like yeah you have the the hot tubs under the bed right inside the jacuzzi course of the oven they're not excited because they get about three dollars with bugs and conversion oh that's terrible it's not worth the effort that's fun um well yeah I mean I would say I if those people are very weird but I also get like cuz i live a very minimalist life and we're talking about this earlier hey you're not into anything I'm like into stuff but are you into I'm like I what's the nerdiest thing video games is the by far the nerdiest thing I'm into that doesn't count anymore man everyone's into that so I need what you want and you want me to be into something super esoteric right something that's not plugged in right or if it is it's still obscure I'd yeah like what do you do when you're not playing games I'm I go outside and I read and I watch sports i sold my normal i know that's the problem stop being so normal I mean I think there are like like yeah I don't know what I could say I'm like and that that's a really good thing is like the stuff that I by could really fit into one of these little cubes because like I don't like clothes I buy like mostly like when I need them i don't like wow I really will like that sweater i'm gonna buy it I'm like I need a sweater I'm gonna buy a sweater so you're just on lane you're just vanilla frosting hey I'm a very simple man and it makes moving much easier I guess so could you just need like a lunch box right good to go and it's uh yeah I don't know what I can say like I don't have a lot of like physical like stuff that I'm like we went to austin i didn't but like apart from the food and the photos we took we we didn't bright but bring back anything it's just i don't know like if i didn't have things to keep me busy and be in not in love with like just to dabble in and yeah experiment with like i love things i love like products that p but like weird things that people make i love like coin yeah you know i love like weird gadgettrak I'll see stuff that I love that's like that and like occasionally I'll buy it but I have like like on my desk I've like up a bomb from Mario okay sitting on my desk and that's like it that's literally it you put that up there you're like look I'm into stuff Boop I have personality I don't know what I you know it doesn't and and like the whole like digital video games going digital is great for me because it's like I don't want I've shelters no water yeah I mean Alex and I might fiancé Alex and I um have not fights but certainly like she had she loves books and we sort of have this arrangement were like we have a bookshelf the bookshelf gets filled and if more books need to come in something's got if something's got to go it's fair and so I and I you know I I don't mock her love of books like we went into a few bookstores in Austin and she loves like looking at them and stuff like that I have a kindle I have everything I need in this little square technology is working in my favor at this point because my lack of clutter your personnel it's great it's perfect because everything just gets smaller and more compact and I like for like emotional stuff pictures are great like that checks the box of like oh I remember when I want Austin I look at photos I mean I don't need so we went to this place in on South Congress south congress is like a strip of like antique stores and like weird music stores and stuff like that kind of kooky stuff and we went to one store called uncommon objects which is a very like famous weird antique store and we're walking around I'm looking at stuff and I found like a weird armadillo like a metal armadillo and i'm looking at i'm like this would be kind of cool and then i was like no do you always just talked yourself out of stuff no not i mean but i need a go i need a good reason in there needs to be a really good reason for is she so and and with her just physical books it's just books with her like why what's oh I'm fasten I used to kinda almost collect books okay where I had a lot i just i recently just got donated yeah 300 block to the march to the fire I don't burn books but there's a there's a bunch of like local bookstore mom and pop kind of places no bouquet sure they're definitely have a long history ahead of them yeah they're gonna be really financially better on forever man okay other all you know it is it's almost like now they're I guess they're clean they're clean and like they better start sewing candles on that now they're hope their whole purpose it seems like is to just like recirculate books yeah and like preserve sure is like their prayer book how that translates into paying the rent every month they have more of a chance than like a Barnes & Noble does totally yeah totally yeah cuz they can do whatever they want and their overhead is armed so I get it was she into anything else like I get the boys like knitting okay that's another fit that's I'm talking about like basically simple things um I which kind of flies into the face of like being living this digital life right it does I've got there have been times when I always thought about wanting to paint that's nice or draw but the painting aspect requires a lot of bass and mess and like I have to put a sheet down I need an easel just like wine your way out of it I do you're like I kind of way I don't want to get dirty drawing maybe but I've never been good at drawing cuz I've never really tried I feel like I should just be good straight at the beginning yeah like most artists or calligraphy would be fun I actually do think that would be fun because I like things I think I might have talked about this before but of the instruments that I would want to pick to learn harmonica oh good easiest most portable instrument on the planet it'd be great how many famous harmonica players do you know John a joke John popper next uh Billy Joel I don't know if that counts he plays the harmonica yeah but like in like seven songs but yeah it's only barely in his tool belt but well I don't know that he has a tool belt like John popper and his boat in his musical instrument to belt it's maybe I usually think about don't need to be a famous harmonica player but if I had to like as a fun thing to learn an instrument or monocle is the way to go if there was like a tiny little horn I'd probably do that too is there like a little horn I'm not gonna lie man you're funny today you've been funny today um what are you into I know you've got toys collectibles have I I have a lot of a lot of stuff I I like stuff yeah like little toys I love little like trinkets yeah I am just into out like I just like things yeah if something was missing would you notice um something significant ok but like one of the like middle middle of the road things yeah I need to like I need a very specific exists rick is like I know a lot of what i have right uh maybe somewhere something could fall through the cracks why did you would you steal for my place it's two years so I did though get into something very recently okay where I'm still as we speak falling down this rabbit hole okay that has greased aluminum sides that I cannot attach any sort of friction as heroin move on nope it's better baby now and that's not funny um it's funny so you know I I think I've discussed this before whether or not it's on this show or the Beast guests like I mean I like stationary I like weird Japanese stationary things that don't move things that don't move oh no like paper like products got it the other stationary uh so like it started when I was younger and I wasn't like moleskine notebooks I do like mosca notebook there we have it but that's not weird that's not weird i'm not making no yeah they're just really it's good paper a good quality a lot of people in the stationary scene say that mole skins fallen off recently or really the quality is phone the people are saying there there little lamer interesting but um but I I'm into like that so I get that because it's like a utilitarian right like putting the pen to paper I like pens I like different kinds of pens on stuff like that I like really smooth and fine pens and like is a recent thing is this the pen and and paper stuff as always is probably been a thing for me for like 20 years okay and for taking notes are drawing or arm I sty I too was like an aspiring artist I I was ok I was not good i was just okay in their heart I kind of ya hands are real tough they always wind up looking like weird flowers and you're just why everyone just wears mittens it right seven thumb in like a clump so yeah so there's that and then only recently I kind of got into fountain pens okay so fountain pens correct me if I'm wrong are the ones they're metal at the tip and and you don't dip them in something no there is that and there is there is a scene for that you'd be like why don't do you gotta wear like an ascot I mean you need to wear a wig and that pens like a feather yeah I'm not that I'm into I'm I'm stuff so somebody sent me but there them it's the metal tip with like the way it's like a weird curved mike metal tip is like a wet the tip is it it's called a nib oh my god you know the term what about you have to know what it is a fine and that is like where the the that's what touches the paper yes and through that the ink sort of through like capillary of force is that a capillary sure like the ink gets sucked through this feed okay and then the nib is where you were you right okay and you can have like a thin a fine one or shared one and that's like what calligraphy is like a thick nib okay so anyway I one where it's like it separates but metal separates the harder you push it makes like thick so I think that's called flex nib that's not as popular anymore as it used to be got it that's more for like fancy click I guess so I'm not like i said i'm not terribly familiar with the scene but lark i have fallen into this because like there's all these inks you get different inks and people are like all these cool colors and some of them are like shimmering and like they're just really interesting you know what this sounds like and like I've I just the only reason I got into it it's cuz somebody's was like hey I heard you talk about like cool pens once yeah I sent me this fountain pen okay and it's by this company called twizz be okay and i'm using this pen I'm like I'm like looking around like this is kind of awesome what would you what we do I was writing I'll just like writing words I'm like there's something amazing about it because it's very analog sure where you have to like build a pen with ink how you doing use a plunger like the back of the pen has this thing on that twist I'd be so messy no so you dip the the nib into like a an ink thing and then you turn the cap at the top okay it just sucks it up and it's really cool so you don't have to it's not like a turkey baster no it's not you can do that for chanakya like I'm like oh my god this is rad right that's cool and I just kind of fell in love and I just was like men I want to buy some different inks okay so i bought some ink so I just color like you can't write is that you're not buying ink for like the texture or whatever I there's I don't know out like I'm surface of I'm sure someone out there's like this is the smoothness this is the rough this guy thing but like I still you know the second you like write that word into google it's like oh oh you want to get you want to get down with this current do you like fountain pen into Google yeah then you find the the height the the pen and hot ass I'm doing it is their pen pal yeah yeah there's a pet pack is called the pen addict and they're like really populist not the pen 15 Club no that's penis I don't know dude I don't want to go crazy with this but like I was blown away and I can see my jetpens jetpens seems to have paid the most to get on their SEO optimization is that like a store h I think it's probably a maker of hens I think Japan's is a store okay the Amazon a pan but again it's like a lot of it is like Japanese kind of culture thing you know coming in and and for me that's like I kind of like that cuz I like their stationery so this is so I'm looking at jetpens okay which is a store not currently a sponsor of the form now but maybe one day so there we have the pilot metropolitan fountain pen which is 1450 okay and we have the pilot vanishing point fountain pen which is a hundred twenty seven dollars what happens between those two pens that's a great question I vanishing point I don't know let me see it it's okay oh oh I know I cuz the cuz the the nib disappears like a clickable fountain pen why why does they clicking okay sure why does the clicking technology cause $115 I mean look at those reviews man's like five stars people are buying it they're liking it they're liking that bad action is it that complex maybe like I don't know I'm just saying if you're out there and you're listening to this and you're like no I get it Jeff fountain pens are cool they're cool I mean I they're really really cool whenever whenever I have a good pen at a restaurant that I'm signing a check with I'd steal that pen steal that you're kidding always so that I do get that aspect of it so so at this point how much of you invested in your in your pan of not a lot not a lot but like is that what is there like like I went on Twitter right okay I was like I like pens yeah like 40 people follow me Wow hey 10 people yeah Penn people and then like the guy who does this pan addict yeah sky of the hell's his name bread i think his name is sure like listening to I wish I like tuned into one of the podcast this is the whole thing okay but I like food and I was like what is this about litter is like there are people listening to that is there like regular pen news yeah like what there's new ones and they review them and look again have there been advances in pen technology apparently not if this is like a 200 year old technology where they're just like but I but like for me it's just like oh I have the kind of personality that falls for stuff hard and I fallen for this yeah well this achieve now cheap activity at least it's it there could be a worse addiction yeah I would think you know like a drug sure that's all I'm saying is don't start injecting the ink I just wanted to talk about like you know and I think it's an interesting thing to bring up too because it's like we have so many things in our world we're just like jot notes digitally yeah do all that stuff but for the last 10 years I carry a little notebook in my jacket yeah like I do that yeah and for me that's easier than like grabbing my grab my phone yeah opening the notepad app writing stuff yeah and then auto correcting and then doing all that by the time I'm done I'm like oh I forgot my thought you also if you're covering an event taking notes is like on a phone is like not viable for a couple reasons one it looks like you're texting and not paying attention right and do it on laptops a little easier a little easier on a laptop but um yeah I on a notepad if you're like walking around and like interviewing people that's the way to do it definitely and it makes you feel like I wear my press hat right the little white card and this is a fresh yeah and people know I'm in the press obviously it's cool man I don't know do you think any less of me i just i think it's rad i just think it's i will asians are cool a part of me does wish that I had that equivalent why don't you go buy one you won't go no I'm not gonna get it depends that's your thing now first I don't own it something i don't have anything right like physically I don't know why I like it so and and I would also say like I've used pens that I got a lot of enjoy out of that were like simple ballpoint pens that just feel really good and that's fine for me like I don't need to go deeper than that right but sometimes it's like all those you've never had the pleasure how long does like if you fill it up how long can you write before you have to depends on the capacity of the pen but the one you have the 1i has probably a month you can use it for a month and not have to fill it out yes I don't know I don't know if I know the right answer to that cuz I was expecting but there's like maintenance like you're gonna like clean it ofn yeah and like a gun that's why I'm like so I can already tell like Miss hobby nokia today's gonna go for as long as you can without maintenance and then you'll be like I'm gonna like break the pen by access like okay moving on next day yeah but I don't really have I mean like I go to like yeah but I don't have like a weird esoteric I think I honestly do the extent that i play video games is probably esoteric enough I know but that's me too man yeah I'm so I mean and I get into like there are I would say weird video games like firing bombs no longer weird it there was a time when it was like a weird series that I was into and now it's selling like a million copies in a month which is pretty crazy it's really um so like I guess there are like instances that I'm like really into certain specific types of game but yeah I don't know i wish i had some like weird physical thing of like cooking or like I can make moroccan food would be like a cool thing to say but all I can make is like toaster waffles and pasta the food things I get that too like people are super into that yeah you know but I'm curious if you are into anything off the beaten path of tech I want to hear about it and convince me I into something that I'm not into right now yeah I'm well I want you to take something up yeah or at least like for me it's like you know what maybe i won't be like the greatest you know fountain pen calligrapher guy i have like i want to experience it i wanna like you know I like things that are tangible you know what I mean like I just start building ships in bottles that's a thing man I want to undo that you don't have to be a ship is it always ships wouldn't it be cool if someone built like a smaller bottle legs I Magus in a bottle Oh like no one's ever like yeah no one's ever been like I'm gonna build the Pacific Rim beauty inside a bottle no so he's gotta be of I went into a um what are they called it's like glass and there's like ferns and stuff inside of it it's like a glass container um I don't oh I know what you're talking about talking about yeah I went into one of those stores um in Brooklyn there's like exclusively just sells those things right terrarium the terrarium yes and there's no animals or anything like that it's just like little white green fern yeah like that I went the second planet like need like barely any writer you see you it and it's like done um and I went to the store and they had like in each of them was like a little diorama where it'd be like it'd be like little dinosaurs like moving together I like that data Walking Dead will have that and I likely I'll end up eel to me yeah and also because like it's very contained because I don't like a lot of clutter so like the second you're done with it it's like there's your bottle it goes here and it's done and it's done you'll have to like what mate right no maintenance nothing like that like Lego or it's like also the lego thing while I get it satisfying you know just building the by-the-book seems boring to me I will say this as much and i know i just finished talking about how i'm currently really into fountain pen yeah I don't get Lego I get it there is a weird like it's a satisfaction you get from building ikea furniture same idea i don't find any satisfaction now i just want to get it done I like I it's pretty cool sent us the the ecto-1 or whatever it was or the DeLorean like yeah that's really cool with square wheels it's just like Lego yeah I don't know what it is and I think Lego have has found a lot of newfound success people they really never went away bright like the whole 8-bit thing well in all so easy that they're like so tied in with brands definitely and I'm not taking it I just I don't know if I totally was ever a lego person I understand the satisfaction out of it but I don't feel like I get a lot of satisfaction is like oh I followed the instructions exactly yeah and and at the end result was the picture on the box right like it's putting a puzzle together and that doesn't really satisfy me either yeah jigsaw puzzle people kind of creeped me yeah yeah enough already kick some puzzle people right like I get he should have I get it oh thanks for letting me into your house what's that the table in the diner I've been working on that 30 35 thousand-piece puzzle have been working with cooking that for 18 months haven't you I hope that really out that picture of yankee stadium really comes together I really do literally but let us know I'm curious and I'm sorry if I bored you I'm sorry if you think of me differently now that you know guys are my dark stationery and pen loving secrets but I let it out and mend that feel good as it feel good this the Stasi approve of your pen low and I also listen to metal while I write with my fountain pen see by the only pans kidding I don't listen to them listen to classical music okay that's not yet very much sense yeah I'm kidding I don't do that either so is Stacy okay with this newfound love um I think she's come to understand that like Jeff gets obsessive about stuff yeah for like six months it was your baby right now it's just everyone away okay uh the toy stuffed never went away yeah I don't know how long the fountain because I'm already like seeing the light at the end of the top good okay I'm glad we spent where is like talking about it dunno I think it's just cool interesting it's a and it's a scene and there's a significant reddit thing and there's a pen blog thing in these guys need for everything man and there's like shows in the country where people fly from all over the world to like look at penn's yeah it's ready you know I feel like you say that about like comic books to some people and they give you the same day and comic books are done in terms of being like esoteric um but pens are definitely still in that category like I don't yeah yeah they're still there yeah thanks so much for tuning in today we're back next week with a brand new show 866 44 cnet I I I screwed up there's voicemails but they're like 17 voicemails apparently we got in the hopper I didn't listen to him I haven't listened to them all the problem is that i just kind of forget and I used to have like an alert system that would let me know and for some reason that it like broke maybe I'll just text you as I'm coming in to tell ya and I'll start screening them hopefully they're not terribly dated yeah but nevertheless next week I promise we'll do it one of the voice modify and two if by sea right I think we missed the window on yeah somehow they're able to email that prefer or voicemail that uh that's gonna do it right I want to mention the podcast of course my guest yes I I'm sorry that's okay don't worry about it I host a West Wing podcast you might find that interesting because another West Wing poet podcast was Mary talking about announced uh featuring a member of the cast of The West Wing that was West Wing podcast I don't know is probably terrible Ivan let's do it yet but ours is terrific it's called The West Wing history class and if you like the West Wing here's the deal if you like if you're listening to the new West Wing podcast that everyone's talking about and you want more and maybe you want to dive in to a little more of a critique of the west wing as a show and maybe not as much for love fest and also learn a little bit of history behind the West Wing check us out west wing history class and we also have a Facebook page West Wing his request so there you go there you have it that's how it is I was really ahead of the game wasn't I three months I beat that and now he's the talk of the town was it Joshua Malina is the host of the other one he played a minor part on the west wing and now is ruining my life what are the odds of that I guess pretty good I guess reasonably good it's funny what a jerk what a dick um all right follow us on twitter at fresh a trust fresh dick at jeff bakalar and we're back next week right in the 44 at cnet com we'll see you next time have a 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