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the funniest thing is that when I watch you do it on these calves you always laugh I laugh because I love your your the beats that you take where you're just like okay you must be talking yourself on that myself up like okay this is gonna be a great show professional professional just hear silence don't look at Jeff don't look at if we're on our way I feel like I opened my mouth it's just constantly like anyway thanks for having me here look it's a damn pleasure people were people start okay let's fold transparency and our Sun our subreddit if you were like oh another effin rerun isn't that awesome a copy rerun last I did a rerun last week we've done like two reruns in the last month which is which is kind of a dick move especially for a show that is a we're a show that relies on the current ongoings of internet culture you don't even cut up a best of show you're just like oh I don't know I'm just like you're hearing this guy that's just gonna republished this one I sort of like this old chestnut you love this one right this is the one that brings you back let me tell you a little something about the market crash here's what's going on everybody with the housing mark I just had a piece of ice in my thing - I told it we're drinking sparkling water which I've never had before that's flavored with berries and ice so and it's too cold and there's some ice in it that's refreshing yeah so reruns are I am against them and I but I understand why you do them and maybe I treat this show like I don't do you know why you like what I one would do water and I'm sorry I so I just want to take 30 seconds to say I'm sorry Russ is on his honeymoon I'm very busy here I've just taken on a number of new responsibilities at CNET yeah and I do a four-hour podcast every week anyway you know what my art teacher once said hmm just hold on there's literally no way for me to know what your art teacher once said just show the work what does that mean it means just don't I don't get up there and talk about oh you know I had a listen this is my art piece and like it I would want to do the inhumanity of man against man but I ran out of number four pencil and like the red represents communism and shut up if you need to show the work stop talking about it don't doesn't that mean show don't tell show don't tell Yeah right because I feel like it somebody else probably put it better sure well no it means like don't get up there and explain all the stuff let the work speak for itself right it's similar to like I took star apologize don't qualify this thing right it's similar to the the creative writing script writing classes I took in college where they know everyone be like don't know don't tell me yeah what he's thinking Oh show me show me why it's obvious that character is thinking that yeah but it would also be like if you went up there and be like loosen I had a really rough night light night last night my goldfish was sick and like I didn't have a lot of time to write a good script so like this kind of came out fast or whatever my shut just read it just read it and tell yeah you're right this sucks yeah now what tell me why now you can definitely apologizing for having me on the show and that of any slightly better than a rerun that's basically what you're saying look listen I didn't want to put another rerun up so did the second least amount of work grab this other guy that's in the office and we're gonna do a show I knew for a fact you should probably start there I know it has story I knew for this is welcome to four four land I knew I was doing a show today I knew Russ wasn't gonna be here so we made arrangements earlier in the week and I'm I'm very grateful that you were able to accommodate be here it's great you have me any bootleg the studio we just got yeah shed yelled as I our studio the first time that I think goodness he I didn't get yelled at because I'm just a guest here today that was the first time where he looked at me in the eyes and was like you're getting detention yeah what are you doing not booking the room yeah he was upset he was he's got the room booked he's got he's got the I moved into yeah it's why you left but we've doesn't matter you hear through the walls anyway if you know we're talking about whenever for for does record the giant bomb fella maybe this is more recognizable that guy that idiot from okay what do you got to talk about today job there's a bunch I want to talk about real quick though yeah I feel like there are there are some people who don't know maybe exactly who you are okay so yeah Parabellum from giant from the website Giant Bomb calm runs up all the video yeah yeah overseas a good work cuz you have a lot of help from drew Scanlon and Jason Easter writer right out on the west coast yeah I could just cut his own video pieces right so that it was really good it was very good I liked how he was doing the zoom in so we sat and talked about it yeah I was like hey listen if you don't have a cut here's a good way to fake a cut just but don't go past like 50 60 percent because I know just look like a pixelated unless you wanted to look like a pixelated mess that's got to do with intention right so it's beautiful came out really really good Vinny runs all of giant bomb video overseas it helps and on the East Coast here I mean you know there is it is quite a small team here it is doesn't get much if it were any smaller I would be by myself I'm not sure you can even call it a team it's a couple it's just a tree it's a doodoo oh wow it is a doodoo oh it's uh Alex and I are here I do want to say good I don't want a drew and Jason over on the west coast yeah they kill it over there I basically just check in and say what do you guys need hmm and then they they run that show because I do feel like this is an episode of my show where a lot of giant bond people will probably listen in if we tell them you're here I would never do that right so just fall into the ether and it's understandable you already stole my advertisers I am gladly inserting myself into your fantastic III guess who else is on the giant bees cast another dummy named Jeff back basically the giant bees cast just without Alex this is what it would sound like this is basically it if Alex came in here this would be the same podcast although yeah but like we're not gonna talk about video games yeah it would be the same podcast I was still I was explaining that pockets to one of my friends and I'm like yeah it's a video game pie guys so I just lesson if I like it it was the video games and then he's like three hours later he's like you guys don't talk about video games I'm like look as long as you like it there's a next week hey heads up next week there's gonna be a sale on giantbomb calm it's right next week I think next week at some point so you can get a premium we have a premium subscription model over there we're trying to move away we've been trying for a while to get away to see if we can get away from the whole advertising thing not gonna wait exclusively but if you get a premium membership you don't get ads and you get some extra content well worth it you don't have to think about it you know what's awesome about it I'll just I'll be serious me for a second it's awesome because we don't doesn't make us beholden to do that kind of stuff like with the advertisers that sure we used to hate doing years and years ago of like well we can do this or you could go home break it was like okay well no now the audience is paying us directly so we just do this up they want us to do right which is a lot more isn't that nice yeah the freedom uh it was awesome and I'd love to keep doing it thank you very much go giant Bob calm and next week in Center for sale don't go I got a giant bomb hat yeah I know you didn't I didn't yeah really nice thanks can I explain how I got this out cuz I feel like it's safe to say yeah but we should move on to your show so I had someone first of all you can go to Jim Bob calm slash whatever the merch you are LS prime merch that's a story you find it on the website you got some websites or so I love that Giant Bomb hat they're the new era of robot 5950 snapback so I was like hey I need to get my hand on that half what do I do and I basically go jump on through I didn't buy it through like some back channels I found someone who had one and I got it through a friend of a friend in the San Francisco office then they flew out here to do some business and a couple days later it was on top of my head he saw that I emailed I had a meeting with my boss and was like how do I get a hat like buy it devious you know I talked to him I said maybe a box that's I emailed them I was like please send me the Hat is nice oh I like fitted caps but I haven't had a fitted captions like 1997 they're there the snap backs are back in vogue how was that right yeah grandma roll it up like a new server it came to me flat and I give it the slightest Bend I like to pull off the full flat brim it's just not no I can't either so then I would usually go I was like a baseball glove okay that's pretty bent so like put a baseball in there right rubber band around it right with what do you do gore-tex like leave it sitting in the closet put the foam on it rub it in and then leave it in a closet for a month it's not the way to operate hats but it's fine everyone has a secret sauce I like it what's a don't rub the secret sauce on it yeah go to Arby's get some of that horses sauce Oh rub it into your hat throw it in the garbage seems about a good time to pivot into what I did have plans talked about today on the program I thought this week was one of the most interesting what's that I was gonna positive what is the 404 would it would like water what are we doing right now like what do you do you what's your what's your one-liner what's your elevator pitch the intersection of pop culture and technology awesome let's talk about pop culture pop culture and Technology here you go we'll talk about what I think is one of the most significant astronomical events in recent memory so we've found a planet it's about four light years away Oh Proxima Proxima B yeah which I guess like NASA is amazing but maybe they're not the best at naming stuff like I feel like people would give more of a about these fantastic discoveries yeah if they named these planets cooler name I'm not gonna burst your bubble here mayor will I know they're older they're pretty old they're definitely older it's not just nest I understand it's like you know Galileo a t-shirt but like Neptune is pretty dope name no that's fine but like out of Sun outside of our solar system the outside of our solar system guess what NASA I won't care if you change the name to Deadpool or whatever it is like Arnold's like I wouldn't care if you change the name of a planet outside of my solar system come to think of it I really wouldn't care if you change the name of Uranus that seems to be the punchline just say you're honest Uranus that's the solar system's punchline for the last 4,000 years everybody needs a good joke come on right maybe we change that I like something cooler coolest coolest thing for a planet Mars is pretty cool place Mars is all right I think mercury is pretty cool that's a pretty cool one even Jupiter is pretty rad Jupiter that's the planetoid yeah so what's up with Proxima B where's Proxima a so I don't know it's a great question thank you I don't know what that is thanks dad so scientists now they think they've the thing about this planet which is amazing about it where is it it's four light-years away I don't know if it's in Alpha Centauri star system named - it's so much better than the Milky Way oh I'm sorry it is Milky Way's a galaxy we're in Milky Way gallons and we're in the Sol system and Alpha Centauri is you ever been playing enough no man Scott to talk about this I have I played a Mass Effect a whole bunch sorry I before you get corrections in the same Milky Way's not a solar system it's a galaxy you got you can't screw around with that there's a lot of people who take science seriously like most of the populace knows the Milky Way's of galaxies if we made that dumb dumb you know you're not the dumb-dumb so alpha Centauri's a dope name it's a dope name okay game this Proxima B planet is orbiting Proxima Centauri which is our closest neighboring star it's the star the closest to our Sun okay okay it is a four point two four light year trip that's nothing what we can't go the speed of light now yeah I believe they're talking about sending drones there Jerome drone derivative be going good luck Jerome we wish you the best see you guys suit up pack up launch with a giant slingshot and off goes Jerome so here's the deal I was watching a an interview with Miguel gaku you know that is the extra famous astrophysicist you know that guy gray hair Asian dude yeah that's how you say his name it meet new Mike Mike ooh it's something michio kaku sky coupe not Geico what do they call a futurist that's what he used to build so I think it's a lot of different they here right anyway he's talked to each you does it meet you okay I'll look it up sure and basically they think that this planet orbits its star its Sun oh it's a Goldilocks yeah it's a Goldilocks I think it's just good enough where water on that planet is liquid and not guess and not ice ice so and there's water right and once you well they think so and once you have that water that's all you really need for there to be no earth centric it is very selfish of us so selfish is that is that planet like us yeah why can't we go and that was the liquid nitrogen and have stuff in it I don't know I don't think that is the right ingredients for life our life right but like and I and I understand I need to think about this with an open mind as please but like wouldn't you think that life forms on a molecular level on an atomic level what I do think that I'm just saying and I don't know maybe scientists agree or disagree on this but wouldn't you think for the most part organisms life form from the same sort of building blocks well I think you form from the materials you have at hand right but like if there's just nothing but titanium and I earn on a planet I don't think life is just gonna show up from there like yours that harbin you need organic material right no not according to Mass Effect I think I think people have theorized that what's the other there's a geez I'm sorry right his listening to this but there's a if you look at the periodic table like there's a carbon yeah is likes to bond right sure and so that's why I think makes it very very good building block for life right right but right or color that is also another element that I think also has one empty slot I forget if it's one of you slot or as too many look at the periodic table is its ills poison yeah silicon silicon because right under this whole column right is stuff that the it wants to bond pretty easily yeah it's ready to give up or take I can't remember no one's gonna fault you for it okay and so you can have silicon based life and that's what I think Mass Effect made the Garris forget yeah but garish is part of the get no no no he's part of the no am I wrong guitar are you the gift are the robots yeah that's what I thought Oh Gary's isn't a robot Harris is the bird guy I've never played massive are you anyway Proxima be yeah so they think it's in this like you said this Goldilocks zone in its solar system no that couldn't uh you know have water on it and reasonable temperatures is to sustain life or something similar to what we have here doesn't say that like every fuse like Oh Europa like it's got water under his ice and like it's cool it's gonna have giant space whales I don't get excited that excited about this stuff anymore until it's like you know get something over there let's find it but that's so and and again like in this article be read off of also says like well calling it earth-like is kind of like a misnomer it's more they think it could have water you know and in that Suites liquid water that's basically like the best we can it's got the scoop the thing that is most amazing though is how close it is Florida like look like that look in terms of the universe for five years it's nicer so from across a river yeah so they were talking about sending drones over there at 20 percent the speed of light so 80 years right it's all right no and now it less oh it's four light years and you said it's twenty percent so I just multiply four by twenty is that are we doing the wrong man of course I did terrible man before my art teacher said you know your this is a good thing you're in art Carvelli it's a good thing you can't drugs you don't know map either no let's figure this out so if you do it I'm gonna sit back so 20 percent the speed of light yeah point K point two zero point two zero that means it would take you five times the normal way to go right sounds good to me right so it is long it is to twenty years now so it's four so if it's taking you 20 percent the speed of light that's five times for each light year mm-hmm so it's long it's it will take a really long time to get there what's the number this is just five times to learn so it would be twenty would be twenty years that's times four that's why say T you're right is eighty it's 80 years thank you this is cool news it's but so to take a drone 80 years to get there that's nothin no that that's a problem because then what do you do you have this amazing scientific project that spans generations yeah so we're sending these drones with this other planet and not only that it's like oh we don't know a lot about Proxima B and they're already talking about how like we just think it's probably in that Goldilocks pot do you invent like maybe we can go more than 20% the speed of light maybe maybe like don't things accelerate indefinitely when they're in space if they have power if they're power it will speed up it will stay at the same speed oh really you can't accelerate if you have power so if you I guess you at some point you wouldn't be getting the energy from the Sun right to charge a solar but I don't know how I feel like wouldn't you just kind of exponentially keep going faster if you can get be out of propulsion because there's no friction right right but you wouldn't increase speed with a long shot around these planet me I mean I don't know but you dude space big ok tell you just like big boom they're I mean they're already trying to land a this sort of bus-sized rocket up and close to an asteroid that's crossing through our neck of the woods in the next couple years to do what just to like scrape it see like hey what are you made of any organic material on here because a lot of people think like life on Earth could have been created by an asteroid determined so um or these stemmed from something like that mining some water from comets and right all that stuff funding line earth I find an asteroid that's is like it's made of pure gold oh there's a diamond asteroids there it goes we just apparently there's like diamond planets - that's awesome way more variation than intense guy that uh it's this one of those 2001 books I think they fund the plan is just diamonds a good time diamond I mean diamond is just a natural occurring element on our burn under pressure right right that's it pressure sure what so there's no real plans to get there but that's cool it is very cool and speaking of pretty Oh Kaku Michio Kaku there you go you got it you know good for you and with that we'll take a break the for for show is supported by city cards with Android pay how cool is it that we live in a world where you can use the same device to listen to our fine program and buy your morning coffee groceries and more and did I mention it's a super fast way to pay just use your city card with Android pay at the register get in get it get going download the Android pay app on Google Play or visit city comm slash Android pay to get started Android pay is available for eligible CD consumer credit and debit cards all right welcome back to the show Vincent Caravelle from Giant Bomb I know is here shooting the breeze with me while Russ fresh dick is on his icelandic honeymoon that's cool yeah he's got some amazing photographs from that everything good for him he'll be back next week here's a tip from out the old V man what's that if you're gonna go on a honeymoon if you're if you're with your partner and you're like we should go on a honeymoon just do it don't put it off yeah don't put it off I still haven't got on my honeymoon really yeah oh I didn't want to bring that up you know was it is that weird wait how I've been married seven years I've been married six that's incredible you okay do you know when your anniversary is it makes a log yeah I think so you see do ya okay I'm not telling you no no I wasn't looking to find out I just think that's amazing uh uh yeah and we were like oh you know this industry this video game in this life there's never dislike this thug life there's never a good time and we got married in November and it's like that's really season yeah and it's a go okay well we'll do our honeymoon later cuz I don't know then it's game of the year right came to fast forward seven years that's hard seven years it's always something both of my kids born a one unpacks East one unpacks bottom I think I know what you guys need to do go on a vacation yes make it your honeymoon call it your honeymoon but any of the kids get that you have in-laws and grandparents uh-huh you just gotta do it it's offload just gotta do it that's what we're doing for Italy that's amazing we're just we're literally they don't even know they're watching you're not coming back one day yeah we're just going to show up and do like the the basket with a little pin no it's a safety pin in a note yep that safety atomically large safety pin they sell them Halloween's around the corner and you gotta buy like a cloth diaper it's fine and then we're gonna find the right basket I know and bonnets are talking about but we'll make it work and to get that organ organist to play the the music right there I wish you luck on that I have a phrase bring it in June well call you champ I'll put a bottle up on them it's just obviously it's just their knees down and the other thing I want to tell you about my buddy Alex okay I got a buddy Alex who threw his own set of circumstances wound up getting himself on the Donald Trump mailing list okay did you sign him up I didn't do that that is bye-bye as we're going to discover that is one of the meanest things you can do not somebody up for a mailing list you know for this specific Donald Trump mailing okay I want to talk to him at the campaign specific yeah this is the official make America great campaign don't rap look trump pens 2016 yada yada yada I don't know how he got on this list he did it to himself I think he was like ironically I think before I don't think enough politics sure he's got all out of control okay cuz this one was back in 2000 okay 2004 light years ago basically so for whatever reason he finds himself on this mailing list and recently they've been ramping up their spamming sure because the heaters on time time is money and time stuff right yeah right what could he do what kind of things come on I'm like mailing lists like this like hey I just want to remind you were still running for president in case you forgot don't forget our campaign of fear and hate is it's continuing well wouldn't what do you what are they what are they what did I ask you to do so a lot of it a lot of the correspondence was just like don't forget mr. Trump's gonna be in Manchester New Hampshire on Tuesday I don't live near there that didn't matter they let you know what happened it's just I'll kick what keep us up-to-date get tickets do your thing it's my buddy Alex this guy he's had enough of it okay it's not fun anymore okay yeah guys I did this subscribe to like write fences national but like that was this is no longer yeah this is no longer the ironically funny thing right it started to be that it was started for rather so he basically started clicking on that unsubscribe subscribe button and subscribe and you would think you know usually most males services yes you click on that and they're like oh you there's a human here I'll keep sending is rough now forward this information on to everybody else at the worst it'll say something like please allow five days for your record usually it's like 30 B it's like oh thanks about 30 days for this automated thing to process easily you know workable I got a fine I've got to find the pan eraser and who knows where those are right who knows where that weird eraser that can magically erase bananas make those anymore issues to to highlight a row in a spreadsheet and hit the delete button I mean this was done in Lotus Notes I've gotta install that again just give me some time gosh could you just subscribe again anyway they just they just confirm that you're a human there when you hit those things right exactly that means more it's like when you pick up a telemarketer call and it's like you answered oh you answered oh yeah don't call you anymore you got it there's somebody there human anyway back in July Alex hit the unsubscribe button okay and he did get a message right away that says we're so sorry to see you go if you ever want back just what we're here for you know right sorry to see you go and you didn't hear anything for I think he said like three weeks okay until two weeks ago until two weeks when the emails started coming again okay and he then wrote a email and said and he would cut clicking the unsubscribe doing it over I think it didn't work I mean it didn't work just wasn't work was when he clicked it did he say what happened when he would click for it it would bring him to a webpage where he had to re-enter his email address yeah and hit the unsubscribe and usually it's like you it's there but this that's not how this worked for him any wrote started writing personal emails he said I've to unsubscribe to these emails numerous times please remove me from any and all lists mr. Trump mister please Donny some other ideas they finally got a human response one that looked like one it said good morning this is from the Trump camp good morning we were second we respect your opinion and we were started to receive your letter mr. Trump is fighting for every vote we believe the information you have been provided about mr. Trump's views is not correct wait what wait what are you writing his unsubscribing email you saw the email let's scroll back up and read it again he goes I've unsubscribed to these emails numerous times please remove me from any and all lists also Pluto's not a planet I'm subscribed please remove me thank you Alex Thank You Al and the way it says sorry we believe the immigration we believe the information you have provided about mr. Trump's views is not correct they're they're they're inferring we know we don't the little hands that you heard I've been down this road before do you know we know we know what you heard it's silly Trump writing this I don't know what you heard it's not true feels like someone that's disease is inferring or maybe they just had to do so many amazing this is the copy paste right what else does it say is not correct and we encourage you to visit our website for more information on mr. Trump's policy positions and his Plast and his plan to boost incomes rebuild our military protect against terrorism and to fight for you and all Americans against the special interests sincerely team Trump so it's not stuffed what what so eight did he's respond to this so he responded to this and said oh no he didn't respond to this he didn't he didn't this he sent me this last week and he hasn't forward along anything else but it see him on Monday yeah and I said he's still getting him yeah I think he's still getting him his views are obviously hey unsubscribe me from this thing Donald doesn't want that isn't that weird no it's totally but it's we know the weird thing is not the unsubscribe hasn't stopped because that's also really can you try to get off a link to him I know it's impossible they won't let you get claim fee I don't know what you've heard about LinkedIn but you should come check us out we're great we don't have you have you been looking for a job again again no take that stop sending me emails that's not possible yeah that's not gonna happen it's it's weird this is one of those things in like I I've been talking to people around here at Cena and I'm sort of like man I can someone do a little bit of like investigative because this is a way into the Trump stuff just like how hard it is to unsubscribe from this guy's list I gotta follow up with Alex again I don't know the current state but that was what it was last week that's haha it's pretty it's funny that they're just like this is rote response that's like no no no listen don't did stuff you keep hearing about the crazy and the statues with the little you know wieners and stuff like that that's that's all fake what no what are you been talking about yeah the part where he's doing biopsy like on human brains that's not what are you wait what yeah it's pretty funny it's pretty funny we talked a lot about uber on this program and I think it's worth yeah it's worth talking about them right now because over just posted a one point two billion dollar loss for the first half of 2016 that's right you hurt me correctly money for people it's good timing Thanks autoplay so uber did they just also announced recently and you would know more about this than I do because I don't really keep abreast of this stuff but didn't they recently say something like a word the automated car thing is gonna make jobs and like we're way into robot cars so to think of uber as a hell riding a he'll come what is hailing he'll hailing car service like a taxi is incorrect they are not that they the way most consumers interface with this company is that but they have many more lofty ambitions behind that oh yeah I know they're one of the biggest big robot car people so they're I don't know if they're investing in the technology like privately on their on their and internally I think they are spending billions of dollars on R&D unlike an extracurricular I think they're working with automated car services I don't know if they're actually doing it themselves but they had read I thought I'd read something a while ago about how like like right out of MIT all these guys are getting scooped up by like uber and Google oh yeah they're all getting poached I mean so in a couple cities in America there already is an uber self driving so test Austin okay let's Pittsburgh Pittsburgh yeah Pittsburgh has it and I think Austin is next or already has it okay so it's kind of amazing because this is a company that like did you guys talk about this already I don't want to retread we've talked a little bit about this specific story not about the loss that they've posted but the fact that like a couple years ago when uber first came on the scene and you started hearing like pepper rings of like oh and one day we're gonna have all automated cars but the fact that like they've actually rolled it out in Mike's market it's kind of remarkable yeah my brother is like I won't drive on the road if there are self-driving cars I said that's what are you gonna do buddy yeah because you I mean it might have like a lane for auto driving in a lane for manual but like I'd way rather be in the auto don't ever tell you my like screenplay can I share this with you sure trademark self sell it to mice so in the future there's gonna be of the auto driving lane right it's gonna be like the the world is gonna have like for the rich people will be self-driving cars and like it'll be super efficient right because there's no traffic because all the cars right but they're expensive cars to buy and pay into the infrastructure because you have to pay higher taxes because of the way it goes what do you mean the infrastructure you know the lanes there's gonna have to be some maintenance on the roads because you're saying you're saying infrastructure like the the the d-o-t is gonna basically have to yeah revamp some stuff they're still like only the wealthy can do it right okay so imagine why would they split it out like that well because they can't afford it how do you gonna afford your new Tesla I don't know but they're about to be super cheap but in your version of the play it's if there's a disparity well right so right so all the people who are like not super rich or like yes they can't afford new cars still have to drive on the road right like they're not hasn't like a petaca peasant in their carbon car yeah but like who's gonna if you enter the mix of the automated cars you ruin everything no cars the automated cars you're gonna slow it all down because they're going so friend everybody introducing the human element yeah which is so easy so these automated cars can go like 110 miles an hour because they're all hivemind right they all know when they're supposed to turn like a flock right yeah but if you bring in your so you can't join in this right so all the carbon cars so imagine a ramp coming down from like Elysium right and the ramp coming up from the under under slump yeah and they drive next to each other right and it's all traffic and snarled and congestion on the right hand there's no piercer yeah it's all traffic over here and then all these cars are zoom in super fast but this you're just sitting in traffic looking over at the super fast and they're all like sipping champagne and they have like a little shame theirs are facing each other because they're all like cards yeah but you can hardly see them cuz they're moving so fast right you can't even keep up and so then like and all the trucking industry is like all these guys are losing their jobs to robot trucking because like who needs a person trucking stuff right so like all the jobs and all these people are just disgruntled and taken and then they're in their traffic jam car but like oh no like somebody's tire pops as they're moving and lay of the car with like a family veers into the lane with the super fast cars and get hit right and like this is like the the big plot point yeah everything gets hit oh like it stops that Lane from going lanes next so they're still going super fast but this Lane is stopped and they get out the cars the automated cars all stop they don't hit it because yeah and like Oh guys in like business suits with their champagne get out and drag the car out of the lane and drag the like bodies out of the lane and just get back in the car and start going right my god and then cuz they're like gosh they're just freaking poor people right yeah so then racket so then a guy in a truck puts it into gear and he's like screw that and drives his semi because in the lane because he sees though people yeah yeah and like that's the start of like the big robot war epochal and like that's the like the thing that sets it off and so you see all this in the beginning of the movie from like the video camera style like on the TVs like yeah tensions boil as like you know the events on the BQE did neo BQE you know that's the neon be yeah and like that starts the whole pie yeah the Domino I'm telling you that is a cool dystopian sort of sci-fi thing it's a good start it's a class sort of warfare thing that's the trademark hit that out because we have to go make that yeah okay no that is really cool I think like you can't really imagine a future where something and again like I think you're what you your vision is maybe like a hundred years from now what do you do with all that maybe it's like I do feel like you ruin the appeal of the rowboat self-driving car if you have people in the mix that you write your own agency you say you're saying they can't coexist right because like a person will crash into the robot car but like maybe you don't allow a person boom that a person will rubberneck a robot car won't won't give a won't give a poop won't get it at all I feel like they would fit I don't know I don't know how this is gonna roll out like we talked about this we do talk about this specific topic a lot like how will this roll out will we get solo well we get to the point where it's all one or the other or will there be this transitional period like it's gonna be Back to the Future 2 or it's like get your retrofit right like I could tell my 1970s do a flying car and glider like yeah I don't know I don't know so how did they post the loss is it from R&D so so they said this is actually a story that Bloomberg did some reporting on and found out through their sources so uber didn't actually come out and say hey we lost this much money but through some you know reporting and journalism I was able to find this out the zubur publicly-traded know they okay so their private ended this is what they found out and you know it makes you wonder like oh okay uber is the poster child for the share economy for the shared economy gig economy the whole sort of like look we don't need to buy a car because you rent essentially our trips that we take oh sure yeah perv you know use case so this definitely throws a lot of you know caution and sort of pause into that conversation when you say oh the shared economy is the future of business they are maybe it's not all the way i oh they are i think i don't know if it has to be all or nothing uber certainly has its problems it does but beyond the service or whatever i'm sure financials like that company is also a poster child for a lot of other icky things i'm definitely they seem to gotten past I hope so because I actually I actually do think they have a good from a consumer standpoint the service works well it does like you you call that put drop the pin all the over drivers I've had it have been super nice yeah always a clean car I burn eyes it's a good product and like I hope they treat their people well and all of that stuff aside of like benefits and attracting their people it's I find it just very convenient more so than I've ever found lyft or even a taxi uh-huh so I hope in cities it works really well yeah cabs didn't do you ever take a cab back from Newark it's not the best it's it's not the best it's like a million dollars it is a shocking amount of money it's so like it is almost three times what you pay in an uber yeah and I don't know if that's an unfair price that the uber if they're under charging or what but is a big price difference and you have to wait in a weird line and you gotta like basically write a check it adds I would say it takes you twice the amount of time when it's all said and done and costs you three times more and then like getting an uber ad in New York is that kind of tough because you have to go like secret handshake and find the like yeah it's and like and the guy the guy will you know he'll get out of the car and be like just hug me hug me a kiss on the cheek just hug me it's called it's called me dad just hug me say call me big brother front seat it's this smiled smiling like talking through their smile in the car front seat now don't look around me a high five don't put your money away all right so in this story they've 1.2 billion so they've lost at least 1.2 billion or they're just in there saying it's a loss yes just in the first half of this year so so much so a lot of it is you know it's look you can boil down boil it down to oh it's there you know dealings in China that has put them in their Spengler's they're spending a lot of money there they're doing so much Rd and all these self-driving initiatives and all this other stuff that they've got their toes sort of dipped in yeah I guess uber is sort of the unicorn because they do have so much cash they have eight billion dollars in the bank just from fundraising and VC stuff but they said the money they took in versus the money they spent even though they have a loss last quarter a year let the last two quarters the first half of 2016 lost one point two seven one point two seven billion more than they made yes even though they have eight billion in the bank yes so it's not their net worth if they're not in the holes not the net or if it's their operating costs are exceeded their revenue the money they bring it in so they've they could have invested yeah but it's still like you're you know you're Silicon Valley and you're like looking at uber is like the poster child for like entrepreneurship and amazing you know a technological achievement leading the forefront of this shared economy could also be like well they're sinking in look at lift lift tried to sell itself like a week know we're lying for but I think lift is evaluated at six billion dollars oh yeah they've got over a billion dollars in the bank themselves of there somebody I work with in San Francisco said he does a thing where he drives his car to work and then there's an app on his phone where he hits the button and a guy comes and picks his car up drives it to like the lot for the company and then when he leaves work he pings it and they pick up the car and they drive it's basically a valet yes valet it's valet but like they drive it to like their own lot and it's like so you like you don't have they will find parking he's right how do I find parking in San Francisco it's just like it's like a valet FLA she's and I were trying to come up with an idea we're in big cities where there's street cleaning yeah when we were living in Hoboken before we had a garage that was like the bane of our exalted side of the story it was every other day we had to move the car and almost like states we gotta figure this is ridiculous Hardison so maybe we come up with like an app a service where people are constantly like moving each other's cars and I was like no that's I feel we hit we said we thought it out a little bit yeah but then we're like well how's this gonna work everyone's just gonna have each other's car keys like what was that guy how's that gonna fly I don't understand that maybe your listeners can tell me this I know it would add some cost but bear with me are we at the point yet where you can have another set of like four little wheels drop down from like the undercarriage of the car that are sideways and just put out and it would just roll to the other side of the street you're just talking about parallel parking yeah weird like if you have to move your car the other side and then like it was a car for himself aware and just moves through the other like or sideways something there there's nothing there is that side of the street has to remain clear house but that's where the fire hydrant is on the other side then you hit well then you have to get in your car move it I'm sorry but like what like where are where is that house why is that not a that's at one o'clock every day the left side of the street becomes the right side that's it I don't know that's the easiest thing also like it's her book and they're not really clear ministry actually why not here's an it here's another one okay you can stay on that side of the street you how you stay on that side of the street install this thing that cleans wherever you park oh I like that better okay you got a look I think that's the better you get sprayers and a little brush on your car and it's like oh he's got a sticker on it he's actually a mini street cleaner huh there's a yes I'm I'm with a new car rolls away I with you the guy who says hmm the way we're cleaning streets right now with that Zamboni not be a better like oh there's a bicycle there that part of the streets just not getting clean love it and fills it just like goes around it what what are you gonna do I know I know I'm just saying there's got to be a better who's got to be a better way we'll finish things up with Google Fiber okay yeah because we got to get you out of here and we're almost at the hour mark do you know anything about Google Fiber is it is it just like FiOS it is okay but it's it's really good it's one gigabit broadband okay which is great and that's like actual deliverable speeds yes mmm I mean it's like it's in seven markets so like people are like I'll go gig up and down it's really fast feels like all right heard my questions for you tech guy what can what are you gonna write to that fast you're you're you can stream 4k and livestream that's fair you know all these things at once okay pipe is that thick it's your am I still gonna have like seven hops to get to my destination seven hops yeah like what I like do you ever like traceroute your signal okay and it's just like oh why is this ping so horrible and it's like you trace route and it's just like Oh cuz you're hopping from like Verizon here this one number three and then you bop to here and then the Oh number four doesn't even respond but you're gonna see noticeable increases in speed but again you're also tethered and victim to at the mercy of whatever the other completely like server speeds and then like everything in between and then you know also your local nodes and nodes and like infrastructure but that's the thing like if but in those situations where they're serving it as fast as you can take it you're tired of the ideal okay yeah I know we have real problems here like we have in our other studio we have the Verizon FiOS like 140 package right it's similar to what I have at home and sometimes that steam will download at like 2 kilobits per second yeah and I said what is going on yeah I don't know I don't really have a lot of problems with steams specifically the steam is like the one I use because steam is actually usually good seems the only one I'll ever get past like 10 megabits per second yeah I'll get at home I'll get like 12 yeah and like it's the only one the PlayStation Network never never Xbox never have wished or a game I was downloading but like I don't know if you did do that if I did it'd probably be slow yeah but like yeah like steam is usually the one I could be like ok the faucets open but it's not a hundred and forty and I know if it hits megabits and megabytes whatever I might be looking at different numbers but it's it's very rare I feel like yeah I'm paying that good money right no it's look I'm with you anyway that's a gigabit per second did you ever think about putting Aggie network in your or not Giggy it's 10 times 10 base forgiveness I don't know better it's the better one the better one no I haven't thought of doing that I'm pretty satisfied with what I get from Verizon ok and that's not an endorsement it's just I think it's too much money but it just happens to work pretty well for the most part there's actually a for the first time in six years since I've had it there was a massive outage in Hoboken on Monday which was kinda I'll tell you what I would like there to be some competition totally like let's where's that because they stopped laying fiber yeah everywhere well guess what Google Fiber is gonna stop laying fiber oh and that's what the story's about oh sorry I thought it was gonna be a good story like they're moving well short of their subscriber goals back in I think it was 2010 Google first announced plans to build a fiber network and had aspirations of reaching five million customers within five years yeah well in 2014 they'd only reach 200,000 so that is not five million what are they gonna do keeping score at home well they're gonna cut cost and they're actually gonna you know cut operating costs of Google Fiber by about half what does that mean so they're probably gonna get rid of some people they're gonna do laughs at Google Fiber yeah at the Google Fiber Division of alphabet okay if that yes if that is not the most compelling thing it's definitely laying into my like dystopian car wreck few days oh the alphabet oh you're an alphabet person who live in Alphabet City yeah there you go so yeah they had recently put the they stalled construction that was happening in San Jose they're gonna bring Google Fiber there that is now on hold it's not not coming but it's just on hold because they're exploring other ways that don't involve digging freaking holes in the ground to send fiber through they acquired a company called what did they do they acquired a company reached a virus called FiOS 5 Verizon no it's a company that specializes in sending high-speed Internet signals Wireless they've also been a big player in the conversation about who's going to get to play around with that 3.5 gigahertz band that is currently being auctioned off by the government is that one of them with phones and like your home phone he's the operating on a 3.5 gigahertz wireless phone at home anymore yeah no that was two point five it was two point five routers do two point four and five gigahertz okay I believe what was the three point five reserved for I don't know ham just ham radio we're kicking off all the ham radio people so they anticipate that perhaps being the future combined with some other technologies of Google Fiber wasn't you not a musk also like what's beam internet to everybody he wanted I believe he had ideas to do that Facebook's had a lot of ideas to beam internet through drones yeah they actually had a really successful test a couple months ago whisper networks which which was the thing but yeah it's weird Internet's weird you know you I feel like one in 20 years if you get your internet from the ground maybe you'll be considered antiquated I don't know orbiting the number one on this Call of Duty charts maybe but you know look there they're gonna have to figure out a way to get Internet in everyone's car and right now the best way to do is LTE or or the evolving WiMAX platform so we'll see if you ever get grandfathered in on like your phone plan did you change it I was so in college before data you really needed the day yeah 45 bucks a month yeah that but I paying for text oh yeah yeah oh yeah you're paying for a hundred texts a month or so yeah and that's and that's that that's all we got wait that's the end of the show I think that's it don't you do questions or anything uh we usually do voicemails but the two that I want to play this week or for us oh I'm sorry yeah so you're not him I know and it's your fault it's my parents fault no no they they're they're not the victim here it's it's we are and it's your fault okay they're not the crooks you are oh I'm a crook yeah I don't know why now you're a criminal you just are I'm sorry I wanted to say more about the fire the Verizon's then say it no okay save it for next time we talk about I'm kidding what can people find you on the internet if they want to live you can go to Giant Bomb calm and you can see all the cool stuff that we just had an awesome feature which I really enjoyed was it called the giant beast Academy where um a friend of ours Alex Sandra came over and she made a game or tried to make a game was it like functional she used a construct - which is one of those like game maker ask the things yeah it's fun and we would just be like all right make the guy okay I don't know if I can I say the word poop on your show I think okay dudes in the main character just pooping more a little gay and she was like yes yes and I think something we can okay can he can they all pile up in a pile and then all right player 2 moves those guys it's great you should go check out that she was so it was basically a game making improv where she just wouldn't say no and she was able to do this up her back I would love to be getting on yeah I was super fun I should go check that out and of course you go check out the giant beast cast with Jeff Bakalar also on giantbomb comm yeah if you want twice this if you want or 2.5 times that it's longer and probably if you really enjoy you know science and poor analysis you can get more of that of the video game industry we have a correction section so that might tell you something yeah and that is the longest section of the show and that's pretty good getting longer it's taking over the regular email one yeah it's that I feel like emails should just be called Corrections now yeah you know we got to do the email so we can have correct we could we 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Binney Caravela we're back next week Russ is back it'll be a good time we'll hear all about how he survived Iceland thanks for having me thanks for being here man all right until next time have a fantastic week you