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like the first do to really do the whole Paley right he started that she started whole thing little before caveman action right he was before cavies prehistoric uh ladies and gentlemen if you recall Zack Weinberg whose is just a staple for a very long time well if you work in now if you are one of those loyal hardened veteran 40 for listeners you'll remember Zack as the voice behind tuna Tuesday ah this is dope this is like canon yeah that's all stuff this goes way back around the time that you started coming on the show Wow yeah back in the day it's great to have you back man right back thank you for having me it's oakley sure I'm glad we've been talking about this for a while you and I are close personal friends I'm glad we were able to swing this together and their studio looks it's a much nicer upgrade than where we were less it looks even nicer than it was two weeks ago did something changed that they painted they paint you didn't that's weird all right you're colorblind well I knew that something was different I didn't know if it was the panels or what but can I say one thing about so just one thing may I these sound boards are tweaking me out there so not even oh oh you think they need to be you think somebody just came in was just like okay let's just scotch tape the spot yeah his name's Brian and he has only one I that's really offensive Gavin okay so you've already managed to offend off the office time Zack used to work here back in the day and now he's doing something else that I work in finance you working fine hold out he sold out finally yeah fine so what's the next big short let us know don't tell anyone on the air but let us know secretly off air so we can sort of put our money in the right place plastic okay you think plastics I think she'll be so in the 60s during the Graduate plastics were big and then it's making a comeback everything gonna be plastic knew it the worst possible things for the environment are coming back I knew it you think so yeah you think see there was that whole wave of like oh we got to protect your even one nod and now it's kind of just like everybody's like you know what screw this we're gonna destroy this place as fast as possible yeah go out on top yeah let's go out with let's go out riding the missile down some men just want to watch the world burn hey telling you that's Russa's favorite line at age 30 all right so plastic plastic watching world those those um those plastic things that hold 6 aluminum gas those are making a huge comeback but they actually want you now to throw them in the ocean right out cutting them now remember you know after school you gotta cut it so the fish don't get stuck think about how screwed up that the lesson that is for like a young kid so I remember when that doctor today yeah it stuck with me too but it also stuck with me like we put all our trash in the ocean I mean like that's in order to do that's what we do we don't we don't do anything productive with it there are literally dumped it in the ocean so don't make it a necklace for a turtle I think they're biodegradable now or at least they're saying that they're very great yeah you can eat them you can actually eat them all now we're gonna make them on bio dude here we're going back we're gonna use oil to make them some against that yes um so we got a lot to talk about this week I shook did you guys know the Olympic starts tonight I knew that they were coming up I knew it was like at some point next week but I was not aware i guess at the opening ceremony tonight yeah I didn't even I just like you know obviously you can't escape the coverage uh for from you know Rio where it's like this is the worst idea we've the IOC's ever had like well the Russia covered the pre Russia coverage was pretty bad coping well not no no I mean all in Sochi yeah and Sochi everyone was like uh the hotels don't have electricity and running water but it was no it nothing like this Rio pre coverage of like horrible things happening some I guess he was like some guy I in Rio who lives in Rio now but is like a former jujitsu expert yeah almost got robbed by two guys in motorcycles they like bashed in his windshield with like the back of a gun he grabbed the gun in a jujitsu move and shot both of them Dylan yes oh my god that was an event oh right yeah yeah that's the new biathlon it's very tough only the best of the best Wow good at them thats dark crazy we wasn't not a safe place these days and I'm sure there are safe areas but it's been like this for a while they said there's a main highway where literally there's a gang members hanging on bridges or outside the perimeters of the how and just shooting well I just like duck hunt no it's like a couple of months ago I was reading about this and it's so absurd the security is that the u.s. men's olympic basketball team actually chartered their own private yacht which good for them sure they have the money for yeah and there they have all the security that they need they've got gambling TVs private chefs so as long as they're like apparently that's all anybody cares Mazzy eulogist on a yacht in the middle of the shot oh my god like outside the outside the actual city it's like okay now it's time to play bass clip or and they'll just no transport they'll just somehow transport them to the arena they'll play we'll get back on the yacht in here they're staying somewhere else so uh I didn't know it was starting I thought that was kind of hilarious right yeah oh my god this actually going like there's a there's no metal event tomorrow Wow um so all the Rio thing although all that awfulness that's going on in the background is sort of peppered with these other weird stories that are coming out of Rio that aren't about the awfulness and and and and the sewage and the dire conditions that athletes are having to endure and the Zika you forgot about all right as if we could pile any more on top of this diarrhea salad yeah ooh that's a nice visual uh yes Zika right this terrible when I born there I like that was the first place I started hearing I think they've thrown the word epicenter around okay that's right I don't know if it's ground zero but I got imagine the poopy water is not helping out like or does help as it were at the Zika to rolla for Pope yeah the spread and apparently they like something i read something about like there's a surge of like condom use amongst the athletes because they're all freaking out that's probably good I feel like that should be so they weren't using condoms for was all just seeking or free-for-alls like the sixties and now they're like hey maybe we should yeah rap is olympic village known to be access like orange again yeah young people yet there think about its able reading 10 to 23 year old navy training for the past couple years yeah let up yeah but you're not supposed to have sex right before you know her fevers are very high happy go down boys you're right it actually will uh it'll it'll sort of handicap but i did hear some one of the australian team showed up at olympic village like a few days ago and the coach was like uh nope and just like left and they're staying in like a private hotel situation cuz it's a nice village is just like a hostel yeah it's it's no good which athletes are pulling the most hell volleyball players I've gotta say they're probably doing pretty good I think I feel like weightless lifters probably too much for a lot of people and a lot of them are what you would think they're like big yeah yeah yeahs swimmers the swimmers probably part oh yes swimmers big time auto dope smoking with this commercial just Michael Phelps I guarantee she will feel like all of them are getting stoned what like what I feel like that's not all and X Games people right is there like skateboarding no skateboarding is a true yes keep nose keep warning is a would be a summer thing skateboarding Ross is not in the Olympics it should be if snowboarding is in winter skateboarding seen some extreme sport yeah they need to go back to I I'm not gonna watch the Olympics I'm gonna watch them by accident what would make the Olympics fun is we should go back to you when Olympics first started I would watch five Americans yeah fight five Germans in a pit like they like tea mmmm a team us that the occasionally no I don't know I'm just making it up I was a guy ran like 23 miles oh no that was a marathon you know I want to see tug-of-war sure feats of strength I don't know maybe that's just me me go back to athens and is now all we have is like the girl dancing with a ribbon and that's one of the web wait is that summer yes that's it astex yeah is that also when that's no that's summer yeah so why is that summer wait it's indoors I think it's pretty obvious why certain things are summer my otherwise gymnastics summer yeah but why should that be a winter it should be neither should spring Olympics you should have spring alone if you have enough Olympics all right I'm feeling that that that's fine where they guess I guess so anyway uh sorry came out the other day a Japanese athlete racked up a five thousand dollar bill yeah from the data spent playing pokemon go yeah that sounds about right sounds all right I guess Brazil roaming charges Brazilian roaming charges kind of cost I think you use like 50 megs a day or something if you're playing pokemon go right you play this game I do come on dude does um I'm just asking I don't I don't I don't know I'm still playing it my wife and I people hated now walked out and the hardcore players hate it because they remove tracking what's that mean basically you could like oh there's a Jigglypuff nearby you can you know and there's like a marker showing how far it is from you and you like track it down gotcha but but they remove that so the park or probably monetizing this so you can buy pokeballs to capture Pokemon you could buy inventory increases you can buy incense to like attract more Pokemon this is a sense yeah it does this have legs to last years were this is gonna be an off a financial guy now wants to know whether he should be investing who's developing this Nintendo ya know what I antic their stock went up that Janet went fashion right cuz people realize Odin head only owns thirty-three percent of Pokemon the Pokemon cutaway show what see I mean it does it shel likes to last a while right you so I don't like every other well here's the interesting for Nintendo in particular I think the interesting thing is for the first time ever they've tapped into this market that they never were able to touch which is the mobile space good so this big company is finally making money here but it's even gave him like no but they're making tendo's making money I'm sure they're making money indirect you're right so the but the big takeaway is okay so if if like ten percent of people that we're playing it at the peak are still playing it let's say a month from now yeah that's a good sign because it means that Nintendo which has several other properties that they wholly-owned coming to mobile soon has a chance to keep this ball rolling where it's like oh this is a new source of income where their console sales are sort of died out that's what I want to ask you does this show that all the old nintendo and sega games yeah maybe i'm behind the curve a little bit but that's why I've know as you can i mean yeah yeah the UM to just play on the iphone lay the blades of steel in the Mario is ever or is that just rumors that are gonna keep circular that'll happen the funny thing is those games I don't think would necessarily push crazy sales it's more games there's simply dying designed for the mobile experience because playing like blades of steel or Mary or whatever with like a virtual touchpad is not summer fun even for guys that are 30 to 40 that are commuting or knows I mean that grew up with those games that they've definitely contemplated doing it's like that problem with those games is you buy it once and that's it and that's it but with a mobile design game Michael Pokemon go they're getting tons of money because people were constantly buying me and has more content they can just keep adding I don't arch ink ports of the old school 8-bit games is like the future mobile isn't that coming out in December the Super NES yeah that that's not okay you won't get into your TV right you think that also well we're gonna do really i will do roll so that just goes right into the TV yeah and I could play 80 games that are pre-loaded onto 30 games that are pre-loaded onto it comes with two controllers one controller by another 60 bucks seventy sixty dollars for the thing another to battle I think that'll do really well I think that'll be a big one you do that to Sega has already actually done that yes that array of that just didn't realize it because I was only like five games at sega really sonic sucks and you know like say you were a sonic kicker we grew up across the street you love say I do toejam and earl that was the best I'm a huge I I was a big Sonic 1 through knuckle that yeah they're good games but i think this big time rose rose colored glasses regarding like all those eyes like a flame and also something really good games but i think empirically speaking mario for me is a better game yeah like Mary brothers 3 is a better game in any of the songs no Zelda for Genesis right there was nothing amazing adventure canidius sonic yeah sonic was their flagship french i was their big one and they had some other ones they had some other ones yeah but it never got to like you know Mario was like you like pick up turtles yeah and do stuff yeah side you just go left or right real quick yeah maybe but he was badass why cuz he go so fast you like what was it what was it I don't know she's need for speed that nineties like hey this is what's cool it's like a badass blue creature I think sonic was so popular but just because of the speed I thought I think like yeah I thought oh there seems to be like more powerful graphics happening here well I mean Genesis look the hell a lot better than original intended totally but not you know but not with an s an essay right exactly anyway cycling back has unit did then olympics i get to japan yeah this got this poor japanese athlete 500 bill that was funny and then the ioc which is the international olympic committee has told all the press which by the way is the biggest press draw like more press travel to the IOC think the only thing to the Olympics yeah to the app the Olympics the only I think second place is like the RNC and the DNC to press everything ends in SC it's using invention okay so so CBS comes to you give on hold on okay fine we'll get back to what this story yeah yeah CBS comes to me as I do every more they knock on your door with less locks on your doors likes role play a little bit here hello Jeff oh that's not les Moonves is voice but fellow uh Oh mr. move as you look dashing how can I help you yes Jeffrey we need someone to cover the Rio Olympics what okay uh really you don't have like old know everyone decided to drop out of the last minute for unknown reasons then we need you to go we've got a first-class ticket right here you will be staying in the Olympic Village sounds German and why is he sound like this mr. movies are you give a cold I'm trying to be multicultural in the spirit of the Olympics Jeffrey will you join us um I will not be going but you will mr. Moonves with all due respect I just don't think it's it's a good idea for me to go you know like how you know Zeke has got a scary thing in right you know I'm not saying we're trying to get pregnant right away again but like maybe in a couple years and I think the jury's still out on whether that's like a safe thing to do and I respect the I'm gonna decline i hope that doesn't your fire you would not go I would not I would not go either would you go full ride to be honest no no you're just kind of said why is it said I I'm saying going to you limping should be something everybody's like oh wow that's a bucket list thing I want to go that me acorde experiment in a demilitarized I'm saying in this case it said that you would have to say no to it because it's it is war zone it is that when I was in London send me to London go doing the heartbeat i do really wonder like I think I go to Sochi don't go to Sochi before we how much of this do you think is trumped up the danger not sure how much is Donald Trump tup yes how much either how dangerously it's like legit while website like you're walking at the dead wood and more like thank you been confirmed okay that's an issue and we know that so the waters been confirmed as well I in eight people so so interesting fact about the water that all will talk about Sanjay Gupta did a really interesting sort of piece honorees like yeah the waters super toxic and effed up but no one's getting sick really yeah he said we're just all sick to me the local market is it the locals how thick I don't know if that seems like Yoda jet you could be a in the way that like you know if you travel to Mexico you're not supposed to drink the water in Mexico but it's not like everyone in Mexico is getting sickness from the wall someone's drinking that not having a problem right I don't know maybe it's the Mick Jagger effect were like you do enough drugs it just starts to agree with you yeah um so there was that and then what we owe and then the violent joseph s so for me I feel like Zika alone yeah regardless of the turmoil that seems to be going on here in Rio so as eco is in line you wouldn't go probably not yeah you know like a scare for anybody that's a 30 to 40 s is a weirdly up to because like it doesn't seem that bad on its face yeah because when you get it you kind of just have heads you're not gonna die from it but look like the weird and again like there's also like strange nervous system things they were talking about I don't we don't know what the hell's going on with this thing just sex offspring it affects your kids to find out about five years from now yet it's not so you know it kinda thing I don't want to mess around with ya arm so yeah and others like places in in in Miami that it a new york all to new york city they've mosquitoes carrying it yeah they did yes yes you don't know our know in the city there's cases of it in New York City losing my right now but that doesn't mean it's here that means somebody could have trail you're right it's not here in Manhattan it's it's more Hoboken area it's more right on my corner you don't think good news is what is the good news Zack we don't have to worry about that case we can just watch it on her big-screen TVs and our air-conditioned apartments true you know I was just outside though i'ma little scary I just think this whole Olympics is gonna feel a little bit kind of what we were talking about a week or we don't want to see anything bad to have now obviously but after all of this build-up if it were to go as plan and everything would be hunky-dory can't be like what seemed like you know they're lining up to jump into the pool and is that a sewage spill and the next thing you know the water is just completely brown international TV it's just like that I'm okay with its like the Olympic I'm Andy barge just claps his hands like a blackjack dealer yeah like no right right here they lose that everyone bails yeah Adam okay right I feel like the next potential real disaster is FIFA in where the guitar yes FIFA situation sounds very similar maybe not with the crime aspect but like the abject poverty poverty and heat and dangerousness and I just feel like this needs that at one point go really bad just so for the future everyone's like oh we're not gonna do that again can we have a designated the world is big enough yeah I know it doesn't matter plays alright so pick a spot rescue Rena the island of South Africa South Africa okay yeah why saw ever I feel like you can get every climate and condition you need there no not snow is aware to love you for the summer yeah all right no but even if you picked one universal location probably in Italy you'd want somewhere that's like very know Italy gets too hot what about American would also do this a jersey what about new to Jersey you know they originally wanted to put Israel somewhere in like a part of New Jersey like that was one of the places they considered for they were talking right in the 40s so why don't you just just pick that same spot for the Olympics ever yeah that'd be so rad because I mean Jersey gets in the winter it's cold as hell the summer windows windy yes is always in the same place every year three is in the same place just have the Olympics okay NJ I owe so much in deeper everyone can like plan ahead chris Christie would love this we got enough people in New Jersey we don't know we don't need half there's a lot of farm with the Pine Barrens are like empty just knock them down just money was there so uh and then this is another crazy story about the Olympics coming from our good buddy Chris plan so apparently the IOC has sent out a message to all the press covering the Olympics they are prohibiting the transformation of video footage from the Olympics to be turned into gift good luck how are you gonna stop that anyone force that you can't call youtube and be like hey take this down like who's hosting that gift by saying that aren't they kind of just putting themselves up to just get crap you do want gifts when are you gonna get an even lower not only that like a lot of sports so so if you're CES and you're carrying a sports event obviously can run footage from that if your ESPN same thing but if your SB Nation which is a Vox publication like we're you know SB Nation's not allowed to run video footage and cap it right so for a lot you know if you're editorializing something all a big solution that people come up with is using gifts right so without that I mean what are you gonna do you don't have any visual that's right exactly the crying Jorge's yeah whatever you guys familiar with that yeah it's this yeah yeah I don't know if you techy dudes yeah a lot of video you don't follow sports it's on the Internet okay if it's on the internet on the internet guys know about the language from the broadcast standards and practices that the IOC sent out says it says additionally the use of Olympic material transformed into graphic animated formats such as animated gifts etc is is expressly prohibited looking at one person one unlucky dude or woman he's gonna lose their job to give you the first one so just to set an example yeah just to try to scare crap everybody they are massively litigious like they will definitely pull that they'll find somebody get out yeah they have will find the network that they work for it'll be yeah I mean I'm not remember what were they so worried about what issues I think it's the license I think like it is such a tight stranglehold on licensing that material pictures are okay yep yeah well and they also a big optical question to that if that thing said vines I was awarded yet what if I'm in the audience watching i snapchat a story you're gonna get arrested I don't know yeah you're probably going into the Brazil's all probable probably just yeah shoot extradite you God all right we're going to take a break when we come back russ has a crazy story I want to talk about Facebook a little bit and a series on netflix that has pretty much taken over our collective lives all this when we return the 44 show is supported by citi cards with android pay how cool is it that we live in a world where you can use the same device to listen to our fine program and buy your morning coffee groceries and more and did i mention it's a super fast way to pay just use your citi card with android pay at the register get in get it get going download the android pay app on google play or visit citi com / android pay to get started android pay is available for eligible CD consumer credit and debit cards ingeus so that sounds familiar to you because you've been watching stranger things on Netflix arm oh my god this show is a great show man you know and we're not gonna spoil anything if you haven't seen because it is real time only or episodes you only halfway through Zach and I finish that arm what you know I mean it's there's a lot going on yeah it's it's Spielberg era uh sci-fi like a tease yes Goldberg sci-fi but there's there's a little more horror I think yeah it's um I think it definitely rings like the Stephen King in John Carpenter yeah they yeah I think without the horror it feels like a close encounters an ET NE t uh there's a lot at the end by me yeah I think 80 is like the most on the nose especially like after a couple episode little poltergeist yeah sure it's all there so um you probably heard about it I just I it makes me I don't know it makes me just feel things that I not felt nostalgically because now it's kind of our turn they have this yeah where the the shows that pay homage to the 60s and 70s are sort of they're not done but they've been done they've been done yeah the eighties they've tried it but this I don't think anything else plays into something that's so identifiable to the decade that we grew about 80 show that's not a thing the other was it now for wednesday that wasn't a tease ya didn't do so avid duffer brothers i was reading an interview that they did and they were talking how they was the creators Asia yeah they were born in 84 yeah today and look I was born in 85 Jeff you were at 82 was 83 your 83 so I mean when you think about it we did i'm not saying that we were children of the eighties we probably didn't play Dungeons and Dragons or maybe more magic the gathering and whatnot yeah for sure but I look the fact that we still graduated from the 80s and we were at least five six seven years old at the time we remember the nostalgia of it but it brings you back to a certain place and I didn't think at first I would like it and then after one episode you're just like wow it makes you feel some sort of way type away hey yeah Drake say that I think exactly I actually slept on my couch um two nights ago because he fell asleep watching it um no because I would made me feel like a little kid again I was like it was such an asst the seriously you wanted to flow we went to bed in the other room yeah and I was we we finish this series and I'm like well I feel like a little kid I'm like in like with the with the blankets over my head but footsies my pajama pants on and I'm gonna for this yeah this is like amazing i'm sleeping on the couch all right it took it a little far but i respect that it really got to me i think uh this is so much about i think like for me a lot of and especially the opening title sequence that's great I'm there's something I'm so in love with so it's the music it's the music like visual that the actual titles like the weirdo on Jim street or whatever was calling about that like they channeled this sort of undiscussed like vibe that day well some 80's can't be horror had that like they're channeling it too so on the nose and so well without being parrot yep Abby right it's also perfectly formulated you've got the small town middle narrative got the down-and-out sheriff kelly loves his booze you've got the the broken home with the main character in check I think you've got the government conspiracy like but they make it work they make you work and I also think like there's so much production and an art direction that is so freakin on the nose like there's a certain kid like that just can't be that's a real campaign I get like some of it looks like they found a lot of wood paneling I found a lot of the things that just like I basement basement yeah the base my boys with a light touches in tractor like that is exactly what a kid's baseman in the 80s look like you like that is the base have they done anything the duffer brothers before the yes they did I think believe they wrote a couple episodes of wayward Pines night Shyamalan a novel adaptation now the world is theirs whatever they want whatever large another season of this for sure so have they said if it's uh without ruining anything have they said if it's another anthology it's an ongoing Aziz is gonna be a sexy so the story keeps going so please watch it if you haven't obviously if you listen to the show you are the perfect demographic audience for it I got or one in three days yeah we we bet with having a job the best part was like Stacey watched the first two in like I've never loved it when she had no idea about that oh and I'm like to I'm telling you like just just and it was like this amazing magnet just locking in yes like we gotta blow through that I have friends are watching it that wouldn't be into the whole sci-fi sort yeah and it's funny they all say the same thing the music is literally so they're coming out with the soundtrack yeah course oh I saw an Instagram day now so like all right we've heard you loud and clear yeah oh yeah but the soundtrack brings you back Fleetwood Mac all that good yeah it's really a clash they did it's it's really it's really a piece of a special piece of television so go check that out we just wanted and again like it also kind of like uh so you know makes me think of a few video games too when can we talk about it another couple weeks feel like what is it okay the show just came out in July like a clicks come out and be like okay so we're at the point now where we think ninety percent of the potential nerds in our audience have completed I've watched his completion so now people can talk about on social media I think there is a an unwritten law of like when it's okay to start dream on I think it's a couple months he came out what July fifteenth I think mill around there I think we got every week three and a half I always say like a good rule of thumb is like what a few weeks after it gets removed from the prime placement on Netflix right or like a next neck Netflix series comes out that everybody's talking about whether it's whatever huge change of season no that's that's a long time what is that it's everything like September yeah maybe they really have seized it like the way netflix does yeah i was gonna ask me you know they're sort of like distribution schedule like do they have a new series every month is it multiple series every month i think their plan their hope is to have one every month um but i don't think they're at that now or if they are they're putting out a lot of crappy stuff that i don't care about i can't believe how many freaking original shows that it's correct yeah can I ask a bigger picture question of course you can this is the show me the picture does this just proved how much talent how many scripts are sitting on slush piles all across the country that this is going to be without sounding cliche like a television revolute way there yeah I've been like that for okay so where does it end I mean does it well are there just gonna be other netflix into because it has to stop against somewhere as long as just launched a one thing i think there's going to be a Content bubble where like it's over sec i won't i'll but people won't be able to pay for all the good exactly like so you're now subscribing to 19 different things you're just the Hulu HBO netflix plus most people like I think FX is like the kind of FX an HBO for me or like the chat powerhouses is not going to be in the way that there are 200 cable channels of course not you can dance but when you look at like the the the high production value solid storytelling drama stuff like strange things like you're you know whatever a break even i watch the man at the height yeah I tower I castle how much can the more how much can you hold watch feel like if you ever want to see a group of people's faces turn red walk into any bar in new york city at night and watch a group of people talked about the new shows that they're watching everybody's got the veins in their neck pop not ready to say what show their watches it's impossible to keep all right so it makes me think like just a how sad is that there's gonna be so much talent out there for the past 20 years when there was just network TV i gots no door yeah i like the darker brothers 10 years ago this show would have never done right and they talked about how everyone passed on ya on the honour way to nine to twenty rejections there is e so I mean though it's a really good time for that but I agree it will come to a point where it's just like nope sorry we don't have any space was just mostly is that what I'm already there but then I think we're there to like I can I am not watching every like how many times some you gotta watch penny dreadfuls you gotta watch that watch bloodline got a lot much but it's like come on i can only i dare you to watch daredevil season one to watch that yeah like Argo i'm getting yelled at all I know there are exceptions Fargo's annex against why should watch every shows any exception that is you know and it just gets to a point where how much time do you have yeah to watch all these shows yeah yeah I don't know how much time do you have to scroll through another app that has the bunch of stories I've gotta yeah I feel like you do is you don't need to use your entire brain torino you catch area so snapchat are basically got um copied yes week as Instagram introduced their own stories now I I understand imitation is the best form of flattery but did you have to use the same damn word like they didn't even call it anything else golden the sound right if it were they calling you stories about snapchat is that forensic good from Zuckerberg just laying his on the table going snapchat what's up yeah you know look it's a dog-eat-dog world that snapchat has a product Zuckerberg on facebook Owens Instagram and so he put it out there I'm not mad at him no I me so here's the thing like instagrams are better in my opinion it's a better platform in terms I and white van snapchat it's more intuitive right snapchat is is more popular yeah right but Instagram works better in my opinion why guys are the fact that once it's there you could repeat a minute I'm just saying like functionality like functionally you have to be pretty advanced technologically speaking to really understand snap right there I have a lot of friends at are very smart their lawyers I they can't figure it out right well lawyers aren't the brightest people I'm kit but up but no I feel like a lot of people don't understand how or they take for granted how good it is to have like an app that just works and i think you know don't forget like so now that stories are a part of Instagram I follow different people on both of those platforms so now I'm getting like that snapchat experience from the hundreds of people i follow on instagram and it's I kind of liked it better the Instagram yeah the only thing they're missing like you said are the are these facial rec affairs the geo tags that'll come with yeah that alike I guess there but apparently there was a company that snapchat bought sure to get that why don't I call thing for nobody else you that I was saying but all yours on your stupid video I don't have that guy I mean I don't know who do who owns masquerade I'm sure they got sure there's some 40 year old kid somewhere sitting in his mother's basement yeah now that's 100 per student can figure out all right you two can figure it out well thank you even though faith in the both of you that I had to I don't know if you do that we could probably like play the video game of that oh I can build a house in Minecraft I can't build a house so what does this mean is snapchat is it rest in pieces it's fine I think I don't I honestly don't know what it means and it's a good question because someone asked me that on CBS I was like I don't know are they kicking themselves in the ass for not selling it when they should have for the amount of money that they know they're fine because they have all the big 10 users yeah those users are not going to leave and the younger audience does not like instagrams right just snapchat so but for me it's like I think there's something kind of special about I also think that the Instagram the tech under the hood yeah performs better for me on my phone okay like I open up SAP channel more stable yeah it just I think it just has a better foundation sure that somebody older that's using it such as myself in my thirties I'm getting old do you or get it's easier for me with with Instagram it's an it's all an aggregated it's at all in one I've got pictures and now at the top I have I think that's a better it's better it's more laid out more like oh yeah ah it's more conducive to being you know productive on I like it we have too much time on our hands is the morals do you think that's what a watch other two wonderfully James you're clearly not spending enough time catching pokemon so yeah mr. have got him already not yet wrong guy in Brooklyn who did right now you what's the prize yeah pride infinite lameness become a pokemon master see if there was money at she that's how they can get people such as myself involved or just the average person a cash prize award apparently it does not matter because they hit like 80 million users like they're fine they don't need convincing i don't know i mean i can even a cash prize like whatever I mean you would get trounced by people then I mean people might get a yeah all right we got to talk about facebook though before we get out of here and then we gotta get to russ's story uh which you are hyping up your the hype man today I am the hype man i haven't typed it on the show but i do think it's a good story um so facebook is changing its newsfeed to get rid of clickbait yes so this is actually explained to me with clickbait is like a five-year-old okay so click bait is a headline that over promises but under deliver you won't believe what this person did at the Olympics I've been cleaved on those forever sixteen ways to get your penis the size of Milwaukee the good land so you're meeting to telling me yeah so then you click on that I all those times I clicked on to make my penis bigger was all for naught for a thing is all for naught because clickbait is designed to confuse and deceive yeah and the whole life is a lie right now you realize I mean I could have told you that a long time ago but uh but yeah that's what's a way yeah if facebook wants to make sure that the links that they're promoting on facebook are better lead people to better content so they don't have a bad experience on the problem to inherently is that a lot of people get news from facebook so it is in Facebook's best interest to curate that to a point where they can be a reliable news aggregate wow what I was good yeah well that's his facebook still as big as it was yeah it one at a six 106 people on earth norm is it it's crazy it has well I get the volume ability to reach there are people still as active on it as they are Instagram snapchat I will let you in on a little bit information duh so cnet you know obviously has channels everywhere we have snapchat we have yoga nothing comes close to the Facebook still still it is a big deal and you right how long are you could make a facebook for I'm actually considering deleting like my tee time but it might be time um but yeah so that's a story with that they are obviously using an algorithm that they are training to sniff out they may claim there are patterns without clickbait headlines which makes sense the way Google does that is they track so if you click on a link and then you go back that's the same thing they're implementing similar stuff yeah but it's so it's not just the the cookies that measure time but it's also language and and predictable stuff yeah so the you know it's interesting though because a lot of people have different definitions for what clickbait is right it's like a very broad definition of floating definite it's a floating definition some people are like want like all the details everywhere so like if a headline is here's the release date for Star Wars Episode nine um some people gets out of that clickbait because they're like well why don't you just tell us in the headline ah so there are varied definitions of it um here's my Masai people you know I don't like quick bait or garbage sites that make you click through 16 images in a stupid gallery and pop-ups show up but to keep media sites alive you need to click somewhere on them like we need the views guys just click every once a while when you see something oh my god no he's that was dark that's true kind of desperate it's that whatever super if people want all the information up front in the headline it does not benefit us at all different you're describing two different things sure okay you there's a difference between deceiving yeah and out and over promising yeah and being providing creative well thought-out lucid headline you're right but I would say there are people on the planet that think very differently from you I understand that but we have to we have to encourage a positive culture change yes and and I don't always too dour it sounded bad you know that I'm not always the I didn't have breakfast this morning as we've discussed your falling apart my memory off a cliff uh I am the first to knock facebook for existing but i'm glad i can fight facebook no i know i'm not saying that but i am very happy that they are taking making an initiative yes i think it's like a to help fix the problem that they are very much a part of yes agreed so I applaud that and hopefully a change is made over time changes now the problem is that we've talked about millions people see too much stuff come across their feet on facebook and take it as gospel yes and that hopefully is something they are trying to target yes well see it's time for story time ladies gentlemen all right I'm ready don't build it up too much uh too late okay Russ always has a weird wacky story that he likes to share with us I don't know last time was like the cab but I had thing that was okay your best story yeah I don't even know anymore k remembered something fell in the shower and I thought it was a bug right so yours low let's see if you can leap over it at about 4pm yesterday I got multiple text messages since my phone I was in an email I was in a meeting and I got out of the meeting and I look at my phone and there's tons of text messages one of them said do you know a melissa another one said someone is in mom's apartment who is this person whoa my mom text me who is in my apartment what is going on you need to call me right away the one in New York the one in New York so there's some background my mom is moving to the city she is slowly moving stuff in so she's been in the apartment you know once a week maybe two times a week but semi infrequently as she moves you know from upstate into the city she got into the apartment she arrived at the apartment yesterday at around 11am kinda open the door um the air mattress that she had put in there to sleep on temporarily was moved into the other room what and there were women's clothes on the bed shut up oh my wait a minute some squatting in there someone was squatting in the room now some background you all need you I need to know that so it's a doorman building so when I wasn't how would they get in decor man's lover apparently paying off the doorman gave the keys and the keys are all tracked so we know exactly who the person was when they gave the keys out and we have video footage of the person doing it so according to the doorman who claims ignorance he was not in cahoots with this person is what he says so ignorance being I just gave your keys yessum I mean he clearly screwed up pretty damn big he's got to go she goes doorman unions they're tough she um came to this woman came to the apartment uh downstairs was like hey so I'm the new owner of this place so it's not how would but like timeout how does she know that that that apartment was in a situation that could be squatted shore valid question so my mom's been having people come in and work on the apartment construction knocking down some walls putting new walls up etc oh you guys don't want to do and that's interesting so so somebody um my guess is that someone in building must have um somewhere said hey this apartments empty no one's in it you could come in here and stay what so that's a baseline of level information but that's not even you don't even know the veracity of that like but I can't fathom that anyone would randomly walk up to apartment and assume that no one lives there that's so weird Cena so I'm like streeteasy you can see it sir I'm just drawing it out there but it cannot list it it's not listed it was never all we're not selling it yeah I'm not selling it there just like renovating a little right so that doesn't make sense doesn't make any sense so um even weirder is the people downstairs said the floor below you no no sorry the doorman doorman or whatever yeah said something about it being this girl named Melissa who's one of her sons um one of your son's girlfriends what now I date a girl named Melissa about eight years ago no way and there was a time no wait there was a time it's not her okay so now you should have waited to tell sorry I don't care but there was another river there was a time when I added her name to a list saying like she could have access to it so maybe someone in the building saw that list but I checked again with the update was living there eight years ago and they were right I was living there eight years ago so there was no indication of that on the list nan gotcha anyway so this whole thing happens while i'm in this meeting and I'm like frantically trying to get an update what the what is going on so unlike talk to my mom she's very upset she's like well I we gotta call the cops I'm like okay well I'm gonna come down there at six and will file a police report so I go down there I we walk over the police station which is a few blocks away we're like hey it's the same thing happened it's like okay we'll send someone over there like an hour later two guys come two cops come and we start walking through the part so we have neither of us have been in the apartment since my mom showed up drop the dog off because she had no price to put the dog and then went to babysit her granddaughter this is great so okay so I paint on painting the scene here so I go up I have the dog on a leash with the two cops with my mom and we walking through the apartment and now my mom has stuff in the apartment nothing is missing there's like some clothes like just a little bit of stuff here and there nothing's missing the clothes are on the bed and the cops are like walking around with flashlights they're like looking in each the rooms and like always this year stuff is this your stuff which is my moms like no it's just the stuff on the bed and then they go into one of the bathrooms there's a in one of the band no my she left there was there was a move I think in a DNA tested yeah so go so the cop reaches into the toilet lights it literally what my mom said when they found the was holy so can you can you test that my mom asked the cop the cops laughs not know they were serious but like I like I you know what I like I couldn't they yes they so they could but here's the background is if you're gonna do DNA testing there needs to be a pretty serious crime not someone crazy here why a dead body five feet away yeah middle i would say burglary you'd probably maybe do it and maybe arson serious birth about how these dollars ever uh sure arson uh yes murder hitter yes a violent crime yes uh drugs if they were like uh man we don't usually have testicular for squatters yes a low-level low-level crime yeah so he's like um with the cops are like it talking to each other like you know what are we gonna do here and I should and and and the cops the cop targets on my way add to my mom and he's like well you know here's the deal um we don't know who this person is uh if you recognize the person when you see the video let us know but otherwise like change the locks that's pretty much all you can do yeah so there's sure there's no wait like sweet there's a crime that was committed of course but there's no way to like she's gonna come back no why because a the building now has her photo but she'll but she might walk in the door right she might walk in the door well she'll walk in the downstairs door no we gotta get her and then they'll see her poor man's gonna be like yeah come here yeah and then and then like knock her over the head no no we heard her but I'm seeing like maybe we put her in the janitor's closet the cops cops I gotta put her head into the toilet with a product you work with the dog remember this bad dog so apparently she had dogs with two small dogs with her and she heard like barking like neighbors heard some barking I thought I thought it was a dog's poop in the toilet very well right we'll never that's amazing I would never understand how she knew it was okay to squat there must have been someone don't want so or someone maybe like working was for people who were working on the place coming and going so they I mean people worked on the place people not people that didn't work in the building that were contractors came in and were therefore whatever a week or two and new for one hundred percent certainty that no one was there this is New York City have some very weird squatter laws like after a certain time you could you're allowed to it's not just New York City there are weird laws elsewhere as well where it's like if you've been here but there there's also injured his ways to like kick people out sure so yeah I think your mom is your mom afraid like she yes she was she was very she was very those persons got the keys you gotta change along well the chant the locks have been changed the building pain to paid to change locks of course we're asking them to pay to replace the mattress because who wants to sleep on that mattress to clean the apartment because like gross yeah and it was their fault like it has already flushed the toilet oil is flushed after the cops left was that like a ceremonious yes well I understand that the squatter didn't flush well yeah right there in the name that's weird the squatters maybe shank maybe they should check the plumbing may be here well maybe she yeah flush and it came back there well there was a really focus my fault yeah no it's actually gonna take the poop beat illness the cops were very concerned that it was gonna come back up a one we flush but thankfully everything yeah my god I've never seen anything like this so that must been an interesting little sojourn for them and I don't know what they normally fill their days with but I feel like sure that was an easy day for them yeah probably pretty easy job they go home to play tame but like I can you imagine that like doorman building nice apartment just random oh yeah weird right it's weird and then and there's there's an X Factor here that we're definitely missing like who was the one that provided the like the Melissa thing is very random and weird so we can start a podcast about you know like Syria was like that new cereal yeah we gotta fill these bison if anyone know it has any information yep don't do anything yeah that's a weird story right good job yeah I was a good one thank you that was a good one that was my first story I've ever heard of your so you have credibility with me now the bar is a little too high now and now your bars way above average yeah and that's interesting you have anything funny you want the interesting thing you want to tell us before we get out of here no I'm kind of over this no no you don't want to ever come back no I love no chef at a time yeah this is a lot of fun I promise therapeutic it's better than therapy that's the only reason Rosen I do it yep pretty much the only way we can like she had very cheaper only way to get up in the morning yeah just come here and do this I like it we were I guess I will say why going back to the whole Instagram thing ID I follow I realized this morning 998 people on Instagram that's all high and since all the stories are up there now yeah I'm now seeing stories from people like I don't care so in the header cleaned it out I got sounds like 450 I actually feel better yeah yeah feel like you shed a few pounds right but it's like you talk about what yeah and I'm sure there's gonna be yes which I have to we'll wrap this up but anyway there's got to be some sort of psyche behind it like even though following people that I don't give a damn about yeah I know nothing about it still thought we were pressing on file I don't know I know that's so millennial be they say but just gonna be seared sign yeah I mean sometimes life for three years and it's like goodbye goodbye yeah but somebody that I would never see your talk tits I don't say like Holly understand weird it's psychological I think uh you know I think we need to like I think it's there's somewhere along the line of that there's fault at the point of like you shouldn't feel that way like it's understandable why you guilty for feeling that what right here I am unfollowing some bikini model from Hell eh who uploads to bikini pics a day for the past three years that was pretty detailed that was very and I have like 30 of my breaking up with ex-girlfriends be fine what's the psyche behind that it's like it's weird it is very now every time i'm sitting here or on my way over i'm uploading my instagram it's like oh there's not many uploads like bikini girl bikini girls in LA where we're messed up we are mad generation I just hope me somehow see it through i watch this like really depressing 15 minute documentary yesterday about our crumbling infrastructure and technology or just everything just with like how packages get cross country and like how effed up that is in like the fact that like airports or over capacity is so amazing i can solve this instantly what build a wall yeah clearly i'm actually answer faxing answer that's awesome one huge wall bits it occur just across the earth because we don't want aliens you know one that goes to tatter space yeah yeah piece cake and it goes around the moon cuz that's ours ours that's arm there's a wall movie coming on in China about two grand with babies cuz he's asian um alright that's gonna do it for us mr. Zack Weinberg pleasure sir not a plane it's been way too long tune to tuesday i was a great bit i finally used my hundred fifty thousand dollar broadcast journalism degree from Penn State University hey hey I finally put it to use I think you got your money's worth 50 minutes talking to you Schmucks uh will you come back one day absolutely okay I might just quit my job and just use all right all right there's no money and find it yeah we'll figure yeah there's no money in my name any money I'll just talk to you have a fantastic weekend everybody if you want to send us a voicemail 866 44 seen it email is the 414 a calm you besides no man's sky streaming this morning you do anything else from I know I'm going on a honeymoon in two weeks oh that's right where iceland iceland to battle the mighty ducks yes it's weren't the greenland oh that was greenlit really was was it great huh I want to say was ice cream is gonna do is is yeah like that pause okay not a very icy places that's not it controversially well comment but I'll be back on Friday and then I'll be gone for a while all right very good you'll be here friday thanks ray you'll be back whenever we welcome if he's not here i'll foolish yourself on there take it in there that works no words uh we will be back next week learning show have a great weekend everybody until next time um Jeff Bakalar us rustic and a big thanks to mr. 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