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hey what's going on everybody it's Friday it's april eight it is the 19th anniversary of my bar mitzvah happy barman is it to help me celebrate that amazing anniversary are two other Jews I could not tell you when my permits the day is how do you remember that because I have this like Rain Man thing we're with birthdays and not personal date yeah and I've yeah I feel like we've upset people who maybe don't like Jews well that's their best-ever diverse artists starting art uh so I want it so Russ is here as always and then to my left uh for the first time ever a long time in the making mr. Ben Fox Rubin how are you sir the huge honor thank you thank you so much for having me it's uh it's it's mostly your pleasure it is now I'm kidding uh tell us what you do here at cnet.com / news ok yeah so I'm a news reporter I mostly cover amazon ecommerce payments that kind of thing so how people are shopping how people are spending about this chip card situation it's kinda stupid and subtly people don't leave their credit cards right the thing anymore right why don't like it and what do you talk you talk about that little chippie yeah you notice we have to stick it in and wait 10 seconds Oh what really 10 seconds yeah it makes it makes your transactions much more secure I understand so that's that's a huge benefit and that's why they're doing it sure but um there's there's still very much a learning curve I get yelled at every single time ago right to Duane Reade like no you took it out too fast to get out too fast that should never be a complaint technology from like the 1980s like that how is it like we can't just do NFC to do this sort of sick you can you can you can do Apple pay yeah whatever and that's as secure right it is it is basically the exact same technical not built into my card why do I have to stick it in like a jerk because it's not uh it's not wireless rice you're asking too good of questions yeah it's that's what it is cuz the chip in your credit card is not wireless that's true it's got a BF c is here is why early right it's wireless but like hard the chip in your car yeah it's on the right side of your cart when you stick it in your touching metal so it's just the expense of the NFC chip that they don't want to pay for it maybe I mean if this stuff if this stuff was a little bit more understandable to people like I think that folks are just straight up confused about how they're supposed to pay though they go to the register and just like I just want my stuff yeah but like am I supposed to pay with my phone am I supposed to pay with my wallet or my scars no information out there like how the hell's any was just very confused it's all fragmented the whole thing fragmented uh but that will change one day the coolest idea that I've heard yeah is that you just basically pick up your stuff and leave and that's not it's not a Fivefinger discount there's like some sort of technology to DC I can't take it off the shelf sure they know who you are when you walk in or any just walk out that's your quote-unquote payment that's gonna lead to so much more spending yeah why that which they would love privacy presumably is the concern there but yeah sure I'm fine with that I me I think it's a great if that's how you gonna get me to pay for stuff where you can like you can understand that I'm taking something off the shelf right be my guest catch all those fit four year old stealing condoms yeah well you're gonna have to pay for exactly dad's painful I think a fifteen-year-old should be giving condoms for free I agree I don't think this you have to steal by amen uh so what up so so you do a new podcast for scenic called 359 yes and this is this is a real like this is this is something else that you actually want to highlight this because the 404 is where you guys you guys are well past 1600 had episodes honey that's pretty accurate yeah cuz I looked it up because we just finished we just wrapped episode 24 oh so we're like eyes yeah exactly well you know I mention it because you know you guys are we've done a book ups yeah i think it's like 1650 something like that right yeah so so it's called the 359 the reason for that is is that you get the news of the day in form under four minutes so I'm gonna try not to talk fast because we try to get to as much stuff as we can in four minutes and we have like a clock and everything so uses a big difference you could take you what I like about that is that were five better than you guys I like that nah nah bet it's true oh yeah five more better five more better than 59 we actually we did one podcast where we talked for like an extra 15 or 20 minutes and people bowed to Batman vs Superman and I was like this is so liberating I'll just talk no editing is the hardest part of writing and broadcast and creating content by far keeping things short and it's valuable like what you provide is a big service cuz like obviously like there are people that want to just hang out listen to a casual podcast but like for the people that have the four minutes or whatever then subway stops that's an asset and wilshire it's a lot of work to edit all the information you have down to fit into that slot unless you're just trying to do the least now we're possible just writing the exact amount of words that would fit there and lastly the last thing you said well I would one hundred percent true so how does that work though like being like you obviously edit right you can't just you know that you just try and do it in one take we do it in one take yeah you try to do because we do it so I know we do it four times a week no but I'm saying how often like how many takes how many times you haven't really you have any sorry we like were kind of crappy about it at first and then and we had to do a couple of takes right I had to slice and dice and then since then it's just been easier just to do it in one day and you use your bullet points or is it a script yeah yeah we do bullet point okay we like blueprint if you don't blueprint ahead oh you're gonna run out of ya before you even introduce yourselves Wow so yeah so all see ya you know but we'll see I mean like do people one short podcasts and I don't even know you I mean the whole idea about my guess is that there's no time limit I feel like but I think there is an audience out there that wants like the no just give me four minutes borrow I'm done yeah and I think that's a real thing totally for sure we haven't been cancelled yet hey there's where's that's the posix good sized post and you're a quarter century old that's been going for like a month that's that's a big deal we have three Twitter followers that's not a huge one of them's my mom k accounts you know you could follow your own Twitter account and like Juke battle on the other one so how do people find the 359 podcast it's it's on CNN right that's very vague what way that could be we're not even it's so new that they're not even promoting it that much so you have to like you're probably gonna have to go into the search which is terrible Sharon cnet so but it's on like we posted RSS or something yeah you can find it on I too am i spelling out 359 or am i typing in the number it's it's three and then Poland the colon and I'm number three Cohen and then 59 yeah so if you did the 359 like in Google search yeah I don't really find some of the newest ones or you could go on iTunes um but yeah they're not they're not promoting it that much so that's okay I feel like iTunes is the safest way to use excel and find the show yeah it's been fun it's been alright and I'm gonna get to do one soon right yeah you want to come on on Tuesday I won't be your Tuesday but maybe later next week like thursday okay into it yeah yeah we'll keep doing like Flintstones Jetsons kind of stuff Oh perfect at rock and roll I'm not sure what that means but it's like when the Flintstones meant the Jetsons yeah like a crossbow it's also that was trippy yeah like the critic Simpsons question what were the circumstances of that was there a time-traveling yes so there's an alien named Gazoo who traveled back in vieques ill and you he had like magic science powers and was able to transport I believe that I believe it was the Jetsons that went back to the Flintstones time it wasn't the vice versa because the foot stones would lose their mind yeah jump off the sky building man that's like where's the ground anyway I don't know anything about it to be on yes you know why wow you really saved me on that one I remember when the Jetsons movie came out there was something aesthetically about the look of the movie they changed the look of it that like blew me away it was like more shading to it it just looked like it almost looked computer-generated maybe it did I didn't watch it but I know you talking watch it either by solidarity's there's no waves compute it wasn't the late eighties night Jetsons movie oh for sure it was like one of the first movies I remember seeing that there probably france farmers movie Transformers movie one of the first one I saw I'm pretty sure surprised like two or three sure had a popular course I know out of like just how intense and awesome it was it was what was the song at the end when they were like killing or on whatever dad I got the job yeah you got the touch was that in oh my god wow that takes my way back good job wow we're we're checking all the boxes here today we're really nerding out big one I do want to mention before we move on from movies yeah my brother is taking my niece who's two and a half years old to see Deadpool to see jungle book oh and horrible idea right I was like there's a scary snake there's a scary like Panther creature and the bear well the Bears friendly the bear it's blue the bear is it was a pretty realistic looking bear yeah but he sings and whistles probably if the bear is fine i'm not worried about the best so what do you worried about all the other animals I don't know people like orangutans yeah yeah have you seen you haven't seen the footage I saw the trailer looks terrifying I don't want to watch it it's gotten good reviews surprisingly what's it rated uh it's probably PG I feel like you can't take a Maya great you can't I agree it's too intense right what do you think you think you take a two-year-old I have a three-and-a-half-year-old and I don't think we've ever taken her to a movie that she remembers like I remember my wife used to go to like mommy baby movie yeah yeah and and the kid doesn't remember those yeah my niece has only seen peanuts in the theaters that was the only other movie she saw and my brothers like you know you love peanuts and I'm like that you can't there's no deccan jobs all yet the jump going from p well I guess Snoopy's flying and killing the Red Baron so maybe oh my god right yeah ruin the movie I haven't seen way that's but like that sort of a Snoopy thing he doesn't do that um I don't know I think it's a really bad idea it's yeah it seems really weird when I was watching Deadpool a couple weekends ago uh it was great that by like see movies like two months after they come out that's the best time to see a movie kisses empty cuz empty yeah and we're sitting there there's maybe 11 people in the theater and all of a sudden like halfway through this freaking dope comes in with like a very small kid who like just learn to walk yes great way through the movie sog so he was just like killing time being a dick whatever I don't know what he was doing yeah like who strolls in it's weird right that's weird I heard this is like like a hyper violent it's extremely violent it is incur so hard-r nudity very hard hard hard we got everything and they like the guys like I knees like goes right on his phone is let's all kid watch whatever's gonna say because it's it's not my place man what do you want me to be the world if he's on his phone i would yell at him oh it was so far away it didn't bother me that stuff I just knew like uh he'll get his hero something kid's gonna grow up to be a bastard sorry I was just so mad I was like in season I can't believe it and I'm like I know yeah I know yeah anyway let's move along okay my hand I'm holding a box that I received in the mail yesterday okay it is it shaped like a phone box right so describe this because we are no longer video vodka right so it's probably five by three sure 6 x 3 x x 3 x it looks like it would fit a phablet yes right yeah it looks like an iphone box okay guys white box and it says it says apex it says apex i've ever heard of this company again x right so I'm like what is this yeah this isn't unheard of i get random sin to me all the time Oh curse okay yeah that kind of came out but sure just you know don't just you know you it's a privilege not a right poopy there you go ijevin whatever bfr here uh so i get a lot of random stuff yeah sometimes it comes from chuck most of the time it comes from China okay bazaar where the origin we that's where that's where that's where all of our stuff is made so I open up this box and it's a posse it's a phone and I'm like all right what the what that's weird using my manual and it looks like an iphone that's a pretty nice-looking fun it looks like a nice phone yeah right like like touch it it's oh yeah ft right i mean you would need giant hand I mean yeah it's a phablet you had a fab you have right hands yeah you got a nice big hand thank you well I don't know about that so I'm like what I'm like what is this stupid thing I'm looking around I finally turned the box over okay and it says designed in North Korea huh what wow that's a nice it's a nice twist right there what I then also like all right I said oh alright plus is found I felt I felt very weird when you said that I was like this is from like a land that I've never liked you know I'm can access how did it get out it's like a bad phone to the dear leader there's turn it on I be able to talk you for using my phone I've been activated yummy why not when I mean there could be anthrax in there is a number of things Wow I said that's a scary thought that is very scary but mission accomplished they got it in the country so i did i was able to turn on yesterday and it's like a really shitty android phone I mean come on of course it was right once you said North Korea you got the wrong you got the wrong Korea to send you of course the wrong Korea they should refer to the North Korea's the wrong career wrong in so many ways uh I turn like the screens real bad and then I'm like what is going on i'm looking at the bottom of the box again okay and it says copyright 2016 deep silver why the plot thickens so do you eat said I know tips over as you might not know deep silver is a publisher of video games yes they make saints row did they sell saints row or they I think they were the ones that bought saints row yeah I think they bought the pub they have the rights to saints row among a few other homeland or home front is another franchise 80 Oh got it okay it all just clicked for me it's a PR stunt yes but it is oh that's so lame i know i'm very disappointed we didn't okay building up the okay job was a very cool build up I legitimately thought it was in North Korea phones for a while first thing I did was like i went to the twitter um you know into the twitter handle that the business card has on here apex info at apex a phone there's a video and then you've searched a little more and you dig a little deeper and it's a home front sequel promo okay I mean that's uh I gotta give them credit that's a pretty convincing cuz it's some rest more often that they'll be like it'll be like a little settle on the outside and then on the inside it's like homefront awesome blonde and this yeah I mean so here's the deal right like my whole thing and we talked about this on the be sketchy my whole thing is like I wanted the path to discovery to be more fun yeah like all that happened was like i went to the twitter thing yeah iced clicked on a trailer and it was just a trailer for the full share of no contact whatsoever the only the biggest tip was the Deep Silver thing right which is which is a nice piece of subtlety I would have liked it if they screwed with you a little bit more well like I turned it on and somebody called you on the readings yeah right have been down been great there's no sim card in here um so yeah and and and the only thing on the phone is a video a trailer for the Folger so in the fiction so in the fiction of this game North Korea invades the US and wins whoa and this is like our north korean i'm sorry wrong korean apocalyptic future where we have slightly worse phone if slightly sure sound so bad what was us well yeah isn't that weird crazy so I don't know we were less interesting but crazy yeah but like I believed the phone I bought it when you were when you were explaining to me and you that you showed the North Korea stuff I'm like of course to like promote the fact that they have like a technology exactly whatever of course they would send something out and it would be like crappy but it would be like close enough to being vaguely acceptable so you gotta give points mailing yeah I could work PR people you we kind of had spent a long time talking about home front so michigan right but I play I mean I played the beta okay well what there's like a believable logo yeah give me a little context home front first person shooter a black person shooter okay so it's just like now you know in the story like i said is north korea wins you know what this logo girl reminds me of is the new HP logo which actually I like what do you think about that you see the new HP logo it's really cool yeah it's like it was like under their nose this whole time exactly oh yeah all they had to do was get rid of a couple lines yeah well apparently they did they use that logo or they created that logo a few years ago and it was like rejected they never used it and then they were real to it yeah that I didn't know cuz for a while they were just like spelling out you a Packard the worst brand on the planet right yeah yeah that's what we want to do shout to the heavens that your computer is super lame but here now you have the HP it's just like six lines and they're like it looks like an H&P it's very clever what were the lamest pc brands in like the 90s there were so many packard bell was p yeah i'm bad at the cow one no that was gateway okay is really bad i had a ton of friends in college that gateway see I think gateway had a good bread I think the count out yeah okay yeah i think people dug it it was like his mom to death who is very dense computer within 50 miles it felt like that i don't know why it was it was smart I'm sure had nothing to do with like environment or anything like that but they're probably they had like a joke cow in the field in front of their factory or the grass-fed computer yeah right yeah that uh what else was there compaq oh yeah I'm happy with you which HP ended up swallowing right at some point and you know give dell credit they're still thing and they were like weirdly now isn't lame in the 90-day were like they were the brand and they spent all that money on that your kid right at the double are getting Adele yeah but even before that I remember a lot of people prided themselves on having Dells because they were like this is a business computer but I have it in my house so I somehow in better right way you could also customize it rat was a big thing for sure that you could put stuff up and say oh I want this origin what I was that the only commuter company that was like a dudes last name Michael Dell right no they all are no what if you're a hewlett-packard missed out hewlett-packard stay okay as Apple impacted always a Steve Jobs I knew it I knew it well is Steve John baby I think we have a show time uh yeah I'm trying to think what else was there hmm I can't remember that was it yeah who's not it wasn't always pretty no much fun this is this is my question to you so is that um so I think that HP and Dell are both coming out with much prettier laptops this is assuming that you're even buying laptops anymore after people are ya is this something that would actually get you guys to buy that stuff because ranting I'm I'm just know they're just they're better looking machines than they use it I think trying to catch up to Apple yeah they're sort of doing it but i'm not i'm not exactly an apple fanboy but I'm entirely in the apple ecosystem so me switching over to an HP or Adele even if they're really cool looking device yes the only thing really see it I haven't thought about it for a while but but recently i would say in the last six whenever that new windows laptop was announced which a creek which is a great computer and that was the first time in a very long time that I ever not that I was going to because I just had a new macbook air but like with that I was ever going to consider trying a knot macbook laptop because that you want to maybe play games under well it's not even that it was just designed really well and looked cool and and like headers and hope teachers laptop yeah which I don't care about but whatever but some people are into it yeah people love that surface man right yeah so I think it's important like you look at the thinkpad and it's like oh my god but I think it's important there's a lot of people that like want to just use a windows laptop but the idea of having a computer that looks like a thinkpad is horrifying to them so I think there is a demand for this it's tough though because again like you know I think a lot of these companies have lost a lot of mortgage chair two tablets and an apple and yeah it's kind of an uphill battle yeah they just lost me as a customer Oh long time ago yeah so I don't I don't know that it's kind of like you know you see this really pretty woman you're like oh my god like maybe maybe I should go up to our like I'm not sure yeah whatever in a while yeah it's been a while but but you never actually do right you know she's no I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with the wife I'm sticking with the white not gonna really no see I i I'm I've always been very balanced when it comes to like Mac versus PC yeah and I've always sort of felt like you know I'm a big pc gamer so like Mac can't even hang in that arena it's not even a thing yeah um I mean why egg can play games yes physically it can blow play games I could also put on a ballerina dress and like try you're actually wearing one right now I'm wearing a tutu I could try my hand like in Lincoln Center and like dance around there would be like who is this asshole yeah that would that would like I would watch it sure except I wouldn't watch that show it would be okay if we have to make it out but you get my point yeah uh and the more I use but I use both every day and you know there's a lot i like about Windows 10 man and I yeah you shake your head but like just the other day nothing changed on my computer it was on I know for an hour ago and then it decided there's no ethernet plugged in there wasn't an ethernet plugged in before that either it was just a USB internet dongle yeah and for some reason it forgot that I had a USB internet dongle and thought I previously had an ethernet plugged in that I had unplugged screw your windows yeah screw you windows how dope does Dark Souls 3 look it does look and run really great but we will mention that whatever there's not windows accomplishment that's the game company accomplishment of course but they're not and wasn't running on OS X now no it was not um I do want to say something there's really no way to SEC with this but it's important that I get this out Oh what are you about to get serious with us yeah are you leaving the show no it's about the post office I want to make sure we get this out now before time expires because you that that is a UH an age-old tradition on this program crapping on the US Post Office yes okay um I don't know when was last time you guys were in the US I post do you write yeah I mean because I do ecommerce I sell stuff on eBay and Amazon which necessitates me going to the poet what is it wait but what why you sell is like why are you doing that you know you want to know about other businesses work like these are the UM all kinds of stuff do you sell everything I let you borrow no no of course not what do you sell like tell me like old electronics and this is gonna be embarrassing but I'm gonna do it anyway because I feel like this go for today's you type lapis is a safe space okay all right my mom's old clothing thats dark doings not know it's not an object wait what hey wait a minute who r us wanted to get into the post office I just I just threw myself under the butter okay give some background before they get it because when you start when you lead with that yeah if that's the creepiest thing ever I think it is actually it's not it's not nearly as green I still my mom's clothes ok it sounds creepy now now it's great explain yourself ok so um men's used clothing if there's no market for sure no resale value yeah so ever who the hell wants my old t-shirt with holes in it right now women's use clothing all kinds of women's use clothing has a resalable there's a so you all kinds of women's clothing has resale value like like skirts dresses blouses okay like really nice yeah we are now I should have never admitted no no this is very good this is so we are enjoying this a great deal thank you for being so transparent what the hell was so without people buy this and yes and what's the deal like you put on ebay like I got an old blast here check it out and you hold it how does it work that would be weird it's like you have a mannequin in your house no but that's a great idea yeah I was gonna say there's a creepy idea but go ahead your mom's you don't take photos of your mom wearing the chosen oh yeah that would be amazing amazing as in horrible yeah um no you you know you have to stage it seriously sure like I you know take photos and in my house and then you know it's almost angry on a hanger some of some of its hanging on a hanger some of it you just displays and stuff go for on average I mean like the thing one of the she actually she had an old skirt that she never wore yeah and so it still had the tags on out i sold it for eighty dollars Wow yeah and night or man whatever my soul to eat yeah i could have been i just sold a one of our old coach handbags this week for fifty dollar handbag gym bag I me and I was imagined but my shoes was also included hurts and stuff that's yeah yeah so efficient some of it with tags whatever I mean if it's brady have stuff krupa fighted you have yeah well yeah it's yeah you crawled out of the trench there it wasn't really hard the second I said that I was like this is a huge mistake I've made a terrible mess these guys are gonna jump right on wow so so you make the money yeah yeah back to her no that's what's nice about how she just one is because it's mom she just like your you got kids it's time yeah exactly so you know it's just it's just or whatever but Russ by all means please I'll get back okay post office so I don't worry embarrass myself again I don't go to the post office very frequently but I had to because I needed stamps because I'm mailing my wedding invitations so congratulate thank you so much and I you know so I go to the post office it's the middle of the day yeah there's probably like four or five people in line not super crowded whatever it's it's very casual but I walk up to you know they have the automated tellers for buying stamps and get buyings postage whatever it is go to very popular post office uh it's popular for my neighborhood but not popular you know it's like one o'clock in the afternoon it's not necessarily a pop of your time yeah and so I go up to one of the automated towers to buy stamps i need like 200 shares yeah um so I i buy them it makes the noise credit card etc everything works fine but the stamp still coming moving along so tweets about there we go so I guess not happy I get in line at the post office never a fun thing to do but again the line is not enormous it's like four or five people right get to the front of the wine I'm like Hayes here's my receipt i bought these stamps at the post office what's the story they didn't come out i bought these stamps at the automate our didn't come out she's like they didn't come out okay one second so she walks around the counter goes through the like glass protective screen and comes to meet me at the automated tower where I didn't get the stamps and she's like this was the Machine right instead of my guilt she's like okay wait here for 10 minutes what and I'm like no I like just I ordered them and I heard them and so they're in there I didn't come in and come out and just like yeah just just wait here for 10 minutes they'll come out what what are they may not like them is it is it a modem like I'm trying to fathom what is connecting to a mother shits gonna give me access is there a little man in there like hand drawing each little American flag the perforation it's just like no it'll come out what at this point it's been five minutes already so I'm like looking at my receipt like I know the time of when I initially bought them and I'm looking at my receding like okay this is why people hate the book like so I wait for five minutes that's standing there like a jerk she goes back she's like come see me if you don't get him five minutes pass obviously no stamps magically appear I wait in line again but I like get her attention cuz I'm not a schmuck I'm not going to stand through the whole line I get our attention i'm like yeah what's up so she's like gives me like the grumpy face and give me the one minute comes around again she's like timeout grumpy face like oh you want what you paid for yeah is that what you're upset about so she can didn't know you were supposed to wait 20 minutes for you stamps she comes out again she she meets me at the machine yet again she's like first of all why did you use the machine the line wasn't very long wrong question I'm like irrelevant I couldn't even respond it was such a ridiculous question like really why would I wait in line or get something instead I have to deal with you why do ATMs exist on the planet it says people don't want to wait in line at a bank right so she's like okay um let me try something and she hits the machine no with her fist she hits the top of the machine stop it and she's like well my super now supervisors not gonna be back for a while actually let me try something she leaves she comes back about four minutes later here like a half hour it's been in like a half hour she comes back about five minutes later with a woman um she's kind of like I mean she has a Russian accent uh she's and not happy at me I'm just trying to make sure am this is your stamp fixer yeah i depress the person that's gonna get you your stand yeah go to the basement again Helga so she come up no I'm not making donations over a simple but I am trying to paint a picture a word picture if you will you know the good stuff and she she holds up the receipt she's like this is you I'm like yeah yeah the stamps in come out she says nothing else she walks up to the machine she hits it as hard as she she like does a double fist like pound like a wrestler heavy attack Evie attack on the top of the machine yeah the stamps drop out no and I'm like I would say you did like the Fonzie move she looks at me like death incarnate and storms off doesn't say a word to me and then I pick up the stamps and I'm like okay that is clearly a backstory yeah to that what what's that stamp machine slept with the both of those definitely pissed them off that's amazing that they're so mad she turned to the woman who was helping you before be like they take lunch break it was essentially it was such an awful experience and it really did typify like why people hate bureaucracy and the government and government organizations because it's like they're basically going to take the lowest bid for whatever crappy technology that they want to get and that's where you end up with is like this ancient like ATM from 1985 that can't print properly I mean at least I don't have to wait in line but for that and here i will come in at the end of the conversation and actually sing their praises a little bit okay I not the experience at the post office that group has always been and will continue to always be dog sure but the the service the actual shipping service like trucks delivery that stuff yeah tracking which they always used to suck at all that has improved a great deal not only because it's a less volume mayhem yes it's like letters go what is it what is it like 49 cents these days or nights to send a letter to Alaska yeah i mean i don't mean to sound too hunky-dory about it but that's still kind of cool it's male amazing it's a small miracle it's a mate like if you were the size of a grain of rice how much do you think an airplane ticket would cost oh that's well you're getting met like weird but you understand what I'm saying right we just get high what just happened I think I'm still good I don't know I don't understand the question millions and millions of people on a single airplane of course it's cheap oh okay I'm fine but built anywhere in the country no no I'm not I'm not mystified at how they get all the veil on the plane and like how they make it so cheap I get that I think from a logistics standpoint it's amazing it's and even like the Fed because maybe like beta testing it for 300 years of course but the fact that like they have this intricate system where everything's scanned to ya like like I know where this what can wear this package is going to be I know when to expect it and the fact that like you're able to like I don't know I know how it's done they're always lean they're always making the service better more efficient where I've heard these days you can go to the post office you don't even have to wait in line anymore you can just get your stamps right an automated teller works great it works it works amazing overnight domestic shipping to me is the most impressive thing we do by the country as a society need you do that the North Korea it's like their own bodies for like an envelope it is don't get me wrong like whenever we get games in write it so it the distribution Joe is in LA or well that's what else but yeah sure and it's over night and it's there and it's tracked and it's like private company I get it okay I'm just saying you and and the Postal Service has gotten a little better with that kind of stuff good for them I'm just it's de niza group it's too like I've just in third place sure but let's get that straight yeah it's it's in the it's in the back yeah only wanna give it a bronze medal I don't wanna sit at the podium yeah but that's that um you gotta go soon so I want to get into some voicemail Callister yeah we're doing voicemails today kids was in a very long time here's the first one uh talking about my favorite band Nickelback you know this hey justice Brian Seattle and I just wanted to let you know that every time I listen to a nickelback song I think about how much you despise them and sometimes they even second-guess myself before giving it a thumbs up or like because it would piss you off so much wow just i watch enough it's a showing fine this is a really dark thing to say to somebody not me he's like I'm just gonna do this to piss you off well what's I'm more proud of the fact that he likes nickelback in his and is willing to share with the world but he has to like through the ANA new number of the internet he gave his first name and his city ah that's enough ah Jeff my problem with this is that what it what are you crapping on Nickelback you're the first guy to do yeah right no okay this is this is a really hard you know the Nazis and not so good right area this is not a new thing this is a legacy meme joke of our show so we've been crapping on them since 07 so you were the erratic we have ahead of the curve we were the first podcast to podcast and the first podcast to podcast hatred towards Nickelback I I would like to get some new york times fact checkers on that beam is it up bi guest snopes the hell out of it you'll only be disappointed with the results fair get there right what else I got a convincing tale ah Marlon our buddy from Trinidad uh called in about Billy ocean a couple months ago I became obsessed been with a music video from Billy ocean great music video called going gets tough starring danny devito Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner that sounds amazing it was very spectacular mid 80s when they were making all those movies together I think there's Gemma the Nile was that yeah but that wasn't the reason that I forget the movie it was tight attack no it was that we thought was the other one it wound up being Gemma the not really yeah anyway let's listen to what our buddy Marlin has to say here from Trinidad hey Jeff a rough swell up player hey Marlon the guy me that Jeff I realize that you've become a fan of Billy ocean but now I have one requirement of you every time you mention him you have to see it again born baby ocean nuna right born in my beautiful island and we're all still very proud of it even though it's itself no going back but just remember again Trinidad in fact of its way initial all the way to do yeah that's amazing uh so yeah it is say it has been written so it will always be the Trinidadian right to correct yes absolutely ocean and I and it makes sense because he's from an island and he's surrounded by ocean so there you go right kind of know where the Billy comes from but you're not sure a lot of goats on the eye is tobago tied to that Trinidad Tobago I haven't watched the Olympics recently I don't know that's a great question hey Marlon if you're listening but can you can you call us on you are the only human and you've got all this free google well I will always said together trinidad and tobago tobago to bet you yeah they're always like tomorrow always said together but only during the Olympic right the only time in the Olympics I don't know that's the that's one of the tank might be like a your cap fields and McCoys resentment between the two yeah is there like bad blood there no cuz I feel like Marlins the guy on the ground there he's inside but he might be partial to the Trinidadian side is what I'm saying like we might not get the clear story I think it's one eyelid it's one place I don't know so bad at one place look look you're you're asking a bunch of Americans geography question right it's just gonna get messy the Sienna be a problem to go to a strong suit guy it quickly time out could you find this place on a man yeah that's right by Iceland right up there by Iceland it's past New Zealand I swear it it I was looking up where the Philippines were the other sure I know what the Phobians I knew like the general area there's like it goes philly philadelphia and it without me i wreck it right next to each other you just keep going west in sixth grade our teacher got the entire class to believe that the Philippines were like just beyond Long Island really lean we're like that's so weird and like our teacher because I do that it's a bit less funny and she like pull down the map as teachers used to do in sixth grade Alana in the 80s and like was poor to get some nonsense is like Montauk it's just like yeah that's the tropical philippines right there and we're all like it's so close why don't we ever go there's definitely a pool in the teachers lounge I was like what dumb like this and then sounds like your ferry that goes oh my god she's like I'm not sure maybe uh what a dick yeah you just found this out though how well I how long did she keep it going oh my god the fur 10 minutes 15 minute she's like no it's nowhere near us that it's made of Japan yeah it was crazy it was awesome now you know uh yeah it's wacky stuff um hey this has been great yeah I'm so glad we got to hang out with with mr. Ben Fox Rubin thanks for having me of course you'll be back I promise that the 359 podcast that's on cnet google search that or search on itunes and where can people find you on twitter at ben fox rubin that's it you got that there was no other Ben Fox there is no other Ben Fox Rubin on the planet whatever you talk about three names there's no Russ frosting on the planet that's only two names what wait we are there's gotta be another for us fresh know there is now there's problem one hundred percent not why fresh digs not that we've done it you add the Russ into it it is very weird no one hears nothing every cycle or every fresh tick on the planet is related to me because it was a made up name from Ellis Island they didn't that wasn't a real name was made up there's I know that all I thought you just uh you had a lot of kids yeah there's uh there's a Jeff Bakalar who's like a VP at ING oh nice so ask you for a job we came here really yeah but I just I mean he's kicking he could do like a Dave situation no yes no I'm not great that wouldn't be that different totally be no ing ing not imagine I'm singing IGN right yeah very close is a bank and no no relation whatsoever uh anyway 866 four for Cena is our phone number leave us a voicemail we're doing that again yeah we got some really good ones plus a few we couldn't play but you know who you are uh and yeah follow band follow us follow myself we'll be back next week the brand new show eight six six four for Cena that's the number the 404 @ sina.com wait I want to say something real quick oh sorry it was a personal thing they talked about like two months ago I can't talk about it I'm sorry if you're really really curious you can email me uh last so you're you're actually picking that scamp you can email me at what is it uh you're gonna eat sent no don't put you know just no don't bail just figure it out no send an email to the forum has any mail for four and i'll respond individually if anybody is interested in buying old women's clothing you can email me what's your email username just from the benz Creepshow on ebay for all the hot fudge bags and thirteen sixty year old leaves the new blouses and skirts until next time thanks so much for watching or listening memphis season you