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The 404 - Steam Machines, The Martian, X-Files, Red Oaks, BTTF month continues, Ep. 1634

2015-10-16
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sponsoring the program hey welcome everyone to the 404 show on this Friday October 16 2015 the best month of the year continues in my opinion halloween is around the corner which as you know is the greatest holiday ever incepted by man do you have a costume idea I do you want to share it uh it's a little traditional the share we're doing a family thing oh because i have a baby sure um first off high res fresh guy hi now that we got that out of the way for you as a close one uh we're gonna do like an Addams Family thing I was gonna say I would would have guessed at a family cuz you love the addams family so we like Adams family so is is is doing puberty yes okay he is gonna pubert so hard I think that's acceptable so if you don't know uh and I don't know why this film is not appreciated as much as it should they're both phenomenal both of the movies are real we're gonna say the word phenomenal for the second 1i yes one hundred percent I might possibly like the second one more because the camp stuff is so excellent the camp stuff happens to be really good and pubert is all in the second one yeah is pure but anyway I'm a family to they they have a kid a baby on name pubert yes and it's like this little how would you describe him he's almost like a china doll oh yeah in a weird why he has the caked on makeup he looks like a morsel is stackable and he has a mustache right yeah he grows a mustache at the tender age of like one month yeah anyway I'm gonna obviously be Gomes Stacy's gonna Morticia herself an issue like big wig yeah like I do no come on we can do the Whigs were gonna be it what's the situation with your beard though now he's never all my beard laughs guess what the Gomez gonna beard have a red beer if you ever inexplicable red beer to go along with his wiry jet black mustache in hair yeah um and then Morticia my wife Stacy will she shall rock that and then we got we already have costumes for little man he's got we're not put them in a wig that's messed up right sure I guess yeah right cuz he has like Gomez hair right yeah you got gomez here okay sure I don't wanna draw on him I want to do anything in okay so but we're gonna give like a mustache pacifier oh that's great yeah very sword will do that and then we'll do on and then his jumpers got like a spider on his jumper yeah which is like the it's like a little pugsley kind of jumpy I am so that's it we're slicing yeah it's gonna be like a creepy pram to push him around in pram that's that stroller is that like the old Victorian sort of strong it's short for perambulator shut up you're making it up sure you get this crap that's what they call in England all right juice you're such an angle Phi epic time all right so there what about you whatever you and Alex doing ah we have not nailed it down because we've been very busy we have plans do you want plans we do have plans oh forget you we did get invited to a party but yeah we haven't nailed azam we might do like something adventure time centric we both like that show a lot all right I'm not trying to I'm not trying to rain on your parade is it done no it's not i'm sure it's obviously overplayed but sure ha like like b-list Adventure Time characters that only show up in one episode yeah like one off guys yeah do you do whatever you want ok my feeling and I am preaching right now so fight if you're if I'm in your ears right now I'm sorry I'm getting a little Halloween preachy but your Halloween costume needs to be scary needs to be effing scary I mean there are scary characters in Adventure Time that's fine like people who a lich they hold their own eyeballs and stuff like that that's a lychee got like a scythe and he's a skeleton anybody's fire he's scary do that there's a lot of work like people dress up like you know me pizza rat chick they're gonna be so what do you think it's gonna be pizza rat it's gonna be like Trump here's here's the issue here's my rule of thumb for the Halloween even though i like the holiday my chief concern for a costume I just want to get over that hump of like okay this person clearly didn't try so I want to be above that but I want to be below thee this costume is determining how much fun I have tonight because I have to carry around like a goddamn bathtub right you need to it's gotta be practical practical that's a huge element again halloween i think that's that's right up there with like good cop like I need a private right something you can move around in yeah all right but what do you think you're gonna be the most common things this this uh I creepy threat Trump um I don't know what's what else is in the zeitgeist the site with the zeitgeist to turn over so quick you almost forget like something that happened in march eight right something would happen in mar don't even know march exists anymore it's so far away who remembers like what was all what happened right right now yeah I literally can't think of like you just have the election going on there were no minors to save yeah there's none of that I'm doing a quick search on the internet because there's always like some someone who's making a list the whole time yeah so people are gonna be doing Netflix and chill so some assholes gonna be wearing a netflix sure i do oh my god is a party in williamsburg i believe which seems appropriate but it's run by a friend of mine I and all the costumes are internet memes so you have to go internet meme at the bell house so I'm sure that'll be a big one that's not bad a lot of people are like Oh zombie Jon Snow is gonna be a thing yeah that seems a little dated at this point that was like that ended like four months ago this this website says that weird multi colored dress that nobody could tell but yeah that's definitely that is that was vanished from my mind but think about it you're gonna walk around and address and everyone's gonna be like oh you just have a dress on no but if it's that weird is it white or blue thing that only happened because of the photo and the lighting in that photo it doesn't work all the time it's not like you if you saw that dress on the street you would think the same thing I know I think I would remember it cuz cuz the picture they have in this thing is like it fading from white to blue okay how do you do that without future tech no it isn't like refreeze gradient you don't think I can work I'm sure it'll be a costume but it's the other important thing is you don't want to have to explain your costume has all the tile night it's all the talks that sucks uh uh so yeah I Netflix and chill I feel like is gonna be so how do you dress is that you wear a netflix shirt and hold the bag of ice oh yeah lame I know it's really bad it just seems silly a lot of Star Wars stuff this year i have millions Oh save me from the minion Anna Freddie all right Halloween acai bb-8 oh maybe some bb-8 I would I don't mind that let us know what your dressing up as this halloween the back to the future month continues yummies in general no going still going on we just passed a date right no don't was this it's it's october twenty first wafer and law I always confuse it with the fifteenth why I have no idea maybe the 15 in 2015 doesn't matter cuz guess what I'm doing on october 21st 2015 time ya know guess who I am interviewing oh my god Doc Brown no way with to me probably more important okay um Biff do you see that see that song he he wrote no so he kind of and he's a stand-up is Thomas Wilson last name and look it up on youtube he's got a song called the question song people oh I'd like if people constantly breathe the same question question yeah no I don't hang out with my fatigue Fox anymore is it Michael J Fox who you're interviewing Michael J Fox no I know I would I don't know what I'm interviewing the mayor of Goldie Wilson because of no not him I uh for CBS and interviewing Bob Gale whoa that's cool yeah you know having Geno babka yeah until the listeners he was the screenwriter right yes for all three all three of them that's very exciting so I like that you tried to catch me in my fronting lie that I don't know who Bob Gale is no I know we wanted a little bit of exposition so that we could perhaps you know explain it to the re exciting I didn't want to say I'm maybe I feel like I've been around the office today Tooting my own horn yes I am way more excited to even up to have you have you looked at as he been up to anything dude did a little bit of constants on all the mr. gale ya know jojo's I'm to me it seems like he is just reaping in the wrong charities from that chilla G is he doing like the Rick Moranis thing where he just like so did every once in a while with his work and then chills out for a while uh I'm gonna say sure did you see you didn't see the rick moranis profile I did he just in the Hollywood yeah so he does some voiceover work every five years or whatever and then he goes back into hibernation like raisins kids that are now grown so I didn't we get that problem no I did because I just loved seeing a new photo of him right like it is the reason why I the same you uh go search for the hollywood reporter did maybe like a thousand words not even with uh Rick Moranis and they asked them specifically you know why'd you say no to the Ghostbusters reboot is like I don't need to be in that right you know which I guess his answer about that was a little it may be just upsetting to the fan in me maybe I it's hard to I think say get context or tone of voice right I don't think he was dismissing it that's rarely it's for him personally like he doesn't have an urge I mean the way he described I thought was good which is I worked on this thing 30 years ago to come back and do like an hour's worth of work on it seems really weird yeah I mean no and I don't think him being in it would have made the movie better or worse Louis Tully is a great care I'm gonna say in all honesty I kind of one hundred percent wish that the other the old Ghostbusters were not in the movie uh because it comes off as like an endorsement no it comes off as like a we maybe it's in my mind I'm thinking back to start with the first star wars episode you know the prequels yeah where they felt like they needed to like make nods those characters yeah I don't know although Ernie Hudson can be in anything that's acceptable I understand why uh you have this maybe unspeakable explanation as to why um you know you have an issue with not that I have an issue with it I just makes you feel uncomfortable adams takes me it like breaks the fourth wall a little bit and you kind of remind yourself oh this is a sequel to a movie set franchise and it just sort of takes you out of it whenever I see stuff like that that's very like naughty to the camera but I don't know maybe I'm just crazy I'm sure you're saying I'm not everything I've seen about the new Ghostbusters and I know we I know if you have seen your damages guys went back to visual Ghostbusters is there anything else we talked about on the stamp show but um I'm I'm not uh i'm actually looking very forward to this Ghostbusters yeah as am I on and that's for the other reason I'm like right yeah i kinda wish like maybe use on its own its own thing sure um alright but going back to Bob yo Bob Gale I you know I'm so I'm not nervous I'm very excited sure like there's a part of me it's like men so when you're watching this movie in 1989 when it came out when did to come out any is something like that yeah probably like 80 87 88 you know I was like I just all these things came I came out in 89 all these things came up came to me was like oh when this date really does happen you'll talk to the guy who wrote this to me that's crazy to think of that as a child watching this right you know I'm saying yes I don't think that's cool I read its article I respect the guys writing he's very talented but like it's imaginary those those states didn't really those dates existed sure I mean like when I was watching the future aid when I was watching back to the future too yeah I remember thinking like oh man i'm probably gonna see october twenty first that's sure if everybody is exciting and now on that day and he picked that date i'll get to right now yeah so it's this weird paradigm are you gonna wear a double tie when you do the interview obviously I do have a Back to the Future shirt I don't think I shadow that do not wear that okay don't be glad i vetted that with you before so cute so like there's also this paradoxical thing right we're like this movie set in motion a chain of events for the future like so like people a change the future people were like very conscious of like what was the directions that is what I truly believe is a thing and I'm that's what I'm gonna talking about technically literally anything butterfly effect but you know but here's the thing right but here's the thing i'm a big believer that it sounds crazy but it seems like human innovation and ingenuity and and progress in terms of technology has attempted to emulate science fiction futurism yes sure right so lightly so the Star Trek tricorder becoming mobile phones etc I think it's definitely a source of inspiration so in itself that notion has these paradoxical features where you are making a film that takes place in the future yeah but unwillingly and indirectly at the same time yeah are shaping our future but you understand what I say what I'm saying what I say literally everything does that yes settle I heard everything does do that sure but when you have dates and when you have stuff like this it's like okay come on sort of get it you don't think that's a fun thing to else about Gail yeah oh it's an interesting question sure yeah yeah I I guess I'm being too clinical yeah you're being way too lame a bad oh sorry I guess I've seen that movie butterfly effect too many times so you know look I'll give you a perfect example sure the whole Cubs thing okay okay so what you're implying is it becomes tried extra hard no not at all and God saying that or I'm not saying that this movie in any way shape or form change the outcome of this baseball season it most certainly did not okay I'm not a goddamn idiot okay but at the same time like this thing is now it's now a synth now a thing and there's a lot more people rooting for the Cubs because they just want this to line up with the moon right now say what you will Cubs been shitty for a while yes name won a World Series in like a hundred years and that's why they were in the movie a joke about how bad right and I'm again I'm not saying that the film set in motion a chain of events that would lead to the Cubs winning the world series of course they can't win the World Series by october twenty first but it's just kind of fun right it yet it's cute it is it is strange yeah that they're making it this far in this year the odds are very the odds I'm sure they're like one in 10,000 or whatever it is whatever yeah I mean the odds of them making today NLCS is essentially there in the Final Four effectively right so it's four out of 30 30 yeah well but then factor in like how shitty they are yes there are we got this hear me um see it's just stuff like that's fun yeah it's fun you know yeah I don't know what I so I'm very excited you want some other inspiration for questions well so like here's the thing so I want you to ask him about that how does he feel about the whole marketing angle is that too deep for him like whether he feels like everything's been co-opted like we were discussing on the other show yeah I'm gonna ask him about I'm gonna try and touch on that I'm gonna get geeky with him because we have like 30 minutes what is he doing was he promoting like a blu-ray he's just celebrating I mean yeah he's promoting everything because I'm sure he's a nice fat paycheck after you you know you buy a Pepsi yeah um yeah so black my buddy Vladimir do these who's the CBS correspondent he or Ernie shot with Bob got and he's gonna be doing mob now yeah he's a close personal friend oh and also alan silvestri I'm gonna get big bad I how you gonna start the engine and pimping started acoustic be the most professional interview you've ever done you mean like all right geez never at this kiddo casa uh so yeah he talked to Bob gallon on Silvestri about um you know the film and they did they did a segment for CBS this morning there that morning yeah but for CBS n the streaming thing I think we're going to like the 60 minutes set whoa we're gonna sit down in front of the flux capacitor the insider times right there sue me it's gonna be fun yeah so look forward to that i'll definitely post on let's go catch that uh but yeah I'm super super excited man it's uh it's pretty crazy yeah that's great right aren't you excited about I am excited for you I was gonna say like be excited for him I am internal i internalized a lot I've barely and you also like know how to spoil a good time for people you're trying to have one uh which leads us into the subreddit that adren s3 started regarding this ball sports Almanac theory which I will be asking mr. gale do you think the Almanac should have been thicker right very good question um we really need the prop expert right we need that guide but I think Bob Gale will be able to uh to speak on speak because they have those tiny Bibles where it's like written in like you need a magnifying glass like real a text yeah so it could've been that I don't know uh andhra and johnny has rights could it be since we see the book itself has flippable pages yes that it was a kindle / real book hybrid which would explain its thinness yeah yet having all that information so this is the reason I don't think it's that unless the technology got so crazy to the point where you would be able to discern printed page from not is that all a young biff does not freak out when you see is just like what's a stupid magazine yeah it looks through it news like what is a good job old man buk buk bak no you're right and that's the that's what I produce at it ah-h safia rights what about battery life flexible thin battery that lasts decades sure there you go don't forget this book is also 15 years old in 2015 right it's from to take only 15 years older yeah then when the film takes place right um is it like on store shelves like that's a common thing people need in 2015 is this is like a thousand antiques through alright antique store right come sorry sorry sorry it's been a little while play ball with me bro I show I go it's clearly a book in the movie is it not and then we went on to talk about this yeah um flexible screens he comes back at me and I said look if it was a flexible screen and just three iterate what you just said yeah wouldn't would not old diff have to kind of explain right to young biff yes it's like don't let this book blow your head but here's would it look I would drop it in the sink uh so yeah I'm also gonna talk to him about like hey the second he gives in that book shouldn't he have died right away right that's just like a time paradox thing well but that I think goes to the like idea that Marty takes a while to fade out of existence as well he's not an instant fade out of existence I think because in the timeline he's currently occupying yeah it's teetering right and that's the whole thing it steering as to whether he's gonna use the Booker right so when he guarantee one hundred percent he's gonna use the book that's when old Biff breaks his cane and dies behind a garbage can he just fades away which we'll talk about that and it has stomach pain yeah when you cease to exist you have some stomach thing we talked about this last year doing that we're like you vanishes very weird you're like oh I guess time travel just like tough on the old man but no he's dying he's vanishing from existence uh really cool stuff I'm not going to spend too much time on back to the future too late I know but I'm just super excited to be able to talk to him on mr. Bob Gale on october 2413 that's that's pretty rad I will get the more subreddit at the end of the show thanks for everyone to contributing to our subreddit being a part of the conversation let's kick it back to the rundown and see what else we got there's an interesting story we're reading about from Microsoft they're offering two hundred dollars for your old laptop but three hundred dollars if its a Mac it's I think it's pretty smart and there was a brief moment where I was like I have an old Mac maybe I'll do this this is like trading in guns yessica leaf right the way they're looking at it but they are yeah it's a promotion where you bring in your old laptop and they give you 200 bucks if it's just like an old thinkpad or whatever and 300 hours if it's like a macbook or whatever because pro because you're because that three dollars is to incentivize your switch your swag the switch your conversion and I don't for me I don't know if you've met Enys people I've never really met that was like i've been using a macbook air or whatever for a while and I'm gonna like I'm ditching this in favor windows like I have not heard of that switch being super common obviously a few years ago yeah there was that big campaign by Matt Apple that was like make the switch now it kind of feels like Microsoft is forcing people to go the other way yeah I'm sure it's gonna happen a few times this iteration yeah but man those Apple people I mean looking at you we're sticklers what can i say sticklers and you're not very open to change your so i changed one I used to be a windows person and I changed one I mean you have a gaming pc too late to go caving pc that's true but all i do is game on that so in terms of work and everything else it's always on a Mac and I I made that switch once when I would like this is like 10 years ago and I haven't looked back so what can I say I don't think they haven't given me a good reason here the aisle and we said this is a little last week I think the 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them yeah or bus ride yeah so I moved it is the first move that I've made in nine years and it was emotionally heart-wrenching it's just like moving sucks and I'm really glad I did not do it between those nine years because it was just I mean I was i I don't yell at people I'm generally pretty moderate but when I'm like really frazzled or like upset about something I just get super quiet yeah you you're an introvert I'm it just in those circumstances where I'm like really stressed out and there were multiple times when I felt really bad because like Alex my fiance would be like are you okay and I'm like it's just the move it's not you or it's not I was like I felt really bad and that literally I didn't know when it would happen but it was literally the second the movers left from our new apartment it was like I took a giant poop like so much stress was relieved and I was just like walking on air and I bet I felt great since and I'm like I was like and she was like you are like a completely different person compared to today's so normally I'd be making fun of you about yeah but you know is I'm fine but I know cuz moving is a terrible thing anyone can be involved in you always hear that that editor it's like hey the most stressful things someone can do is move have a kid or get married and you did one of those yeah about to do another right so what was like what was it for you like what could you not process and in sort of riser there's just so many variables in terms of like what's going to fit in the apartment what we hired movers because we had to because that both building is required it but like I paid a little extra for the quote full pack what does that mean what love that means they show up the day of the move with boxes and like pack for you whoa whoa what yeah and then and you were stressed well I was stressed because it's like this doesn't seem a hundred percent like the whole apartment was still like a total mess when they got there and like this doesn't seem right like how are they gonna do right exactly and like people would come and visit they're like you're moving in two days we're like yeah wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute yeah so you're at your place yeah wasn't even I mean here's what i did is i unplugged all the electronics and I like gathered the cables in like little baggies so it's like here's my xbox baggy and here's my playstation 4 baggy I'm ready to go the desktop i unplugged basically all the electronics and like put some clothes in the closet that was like it he just moved you they moved me so well how's his cough uh the full move was like 1,500 bucks that's like I'm tanya is it worth it absolutely one hundred every cent cuz we move the bed we moved my giant couch we moved a large TV stand and furniture like it there is no way like friends of mine would still be friends of mine if i had asked something with me so it's okay so they so they come in so how many people did this I think the crew is like four people so did they come in and what you were scared they're gonna be like oh my god yeah and actually when they came in they're like they're like we don't have enough boxes oh really yeah and then I let them know there were some things that were staying and they sort of got a little more confident but they were scared they were a little scared uh how long the whole thing take they got there at 8am yeah they left my apartment my old apartment at one-thirty so it takes you five hours to pack of performance yeah and to bring me everything downstairs and then the move-in took like an hour once they got there cuz it's just it's just bringing stuff up yet minnow unpack you do they unpack the like big electronics and they rebuild the bed and like that stuff but not like clothes and stuff like that which is fine it's great it was faith at like and it was literally like night and day and we have a balcony and it like this great view and in queens and overlooking the trees and everything and just standing out there with them being on he was just like this like heavenly moment it was really fantastic so for you I'm glad you were able to rise up I did have one issue though is that so we have two bathrooms in this two full bathrooms which is quite a luxury I was not expecting that in this new apartment one of the toilets before it was even you just thank God we noticed when you flushed it it leaked out of the bottom of the tank in the back oh yeah that's some water sir no that's what's supposed to have so we're like oh no no good so I contacted my super she was very helpful and like put us in touch with or you know got a handyman to come by and take a look at it so that he came by this morning and I'm doing work in my office and listening to music i'm listening to you actually Gloria you know that son Gloria Gloria do didn't I think I got your number glory oh nice yeah yes things that I don't remember it's also notably on the metal gear solid 5 soundtrack which is what made me put on my place that's the wackiest thing ever um so I'm listen to that and he's in the room fixing the toilet he's in the bathroom and I just hear him whistling to Gloria and I like both shared this little moment loving Gloria and and he helped it with a few other things he was very friendly and at the end of it I didn't get his name until they enter like I hi what's your name and he's like taco taco and I'm like uh ty taco he's like tato oh and I felt like them the bigger the most white guilt moment I've ever had in my life years like that dudes name was taco and he happened to be Hispanic but he was super nice but I just felt like I had any I'm sure they get that a lot from all these stupid white people but they're like oh your name's taco I eat tacos all the time and I just felt like so guilty and like the blood rush for my bass Oh your name's taco my name is hamburger how are you but he was very friendly but so put you guys are cool now you're not gonna sabotage me and taught or tato yeah are closed taco I felt very embarrassed you know nobody is named taco I mean I thought it was an option maybe they're very close names together taco he quit he stopped me so quickly that is like 9am now it's not an accent yeah a little bit I like tato how cool is cool dude he like Gloria Gloria yeah it's pretty good uh all right let's uh let's pivot into some entertainment news of the week we're trying to do this try to make this a regular thing where we watch something yeah whether or not it's a brand-spanking-new but I want to give you a spoiler free review of stuff are this week Ross is gonna tackle Matthew Damon on Mars in the Martian in the Martian um I really like this movie I don't you haven't seen it all I know you have a baby you don't leave the house anymore oh that's not entirely true you son of a bitch but it's fine are you bringing your baby to r-rated movies o'clock so that's the thing you can't bring a baby a six-month-old baby as well behaved and as beautiful as a child in turn is can't bring to movie you can bring to like 11am matinee of a kids movie cuz it's accepted that everyone there is gonna have an awful time like that's just a rule everyone just crossed the second they get in there but no you can't bring him to like the Martian no really at any time I guess it's just everyone's just gonna be pissed they're gonna be upset um yeah I really like the movie um you read the book I did not read the book but I based on the descriptions the book everyone told me that the book was written in the style of a reddit post which is to say like very naturalistic and full of curse words and yeah cuz apparently the guy who wrote this book and actually have a little bit of like a kinetic connection but my brother-in-law's brother and no my brother's brother-in-law at that point I don't think you can even line oh it's like the end of spaceballs when he's like my cousin is former roommate right no my brother's soon-to-be brother-in-law yeah I believed helped publish in some capacity this okay something Sherman his company got the right don't you walk by the building one time maybe he knows Matt Damon personally is what I'm trying to understand um but anyway said it was written but and also he was a game developer yeah you kept on a sar craft I don't remember oh crap but yeah definitely a in the games industry and what I liked about the movie and I'm sure the book is very close to this is that it was weirdly very lacking in tension it's not a movie so the closest comparison people make is Apollo 13 which is obviously a real historic event that happened but that movie is such a tension my god it's like every minute is just like awful succession met game um and with the Martian it's weirdly not because like you're constantly like oh he's dead now like there's no way he's getting out of this and then he's constantly like figuring out ways to get out of it but not in like a the air is running out in 30 seconds I got to fix this like right now he's like okay so I have two weeks that's how much food I have left I have these you know materials on the base I'm going to run out of water in three weeks what can I use here it's like Oh mazha MacGyver episode gotcha but without the gunfights right so and it just like felt very true and then meanwhile they have this whole story with NASA trying to like whether you know how they're going to get him back if they're gonna get him back and how they communicated stuff like that and it's just like a very rational grounded it didn't feel like a sci-fi movie it felt like this could it happen next week and it the events would not feel and what makes it so good then if there's no tension I think what people find interesting and what I found interesting was like like realistically how would they solve these problems and these because it was just a bunch of logics it's a lot of logic stuff and it's stuff that would work with my like they don't have crazy lasers like or future Ted the only future tech they have is they have a spaceship that can go to Mars fast I mean not that fast it takes eight months to go to Mars even in the movie this is mostly longer or yeah maybe now it's too i don't know how far away's morris pretty far like a few miles a couple miles um so they don't have future tech and like all the clothing is not like it's not like back to the future they don't have future fashion they just use like normal day fashion and it just feels very grounded there's a scene in Apollo 13 that I always think back to which is they're they're like running out of air and they need to make a new filter and the guys at NASA like spill out a bag that has like all the things that are in the space station and they're like okay we have to use this stuff to make this thing fit into this thing right classic Apollo right like what the air filter thing exactly so you're just like a very logic filled moment that's obviously tense because there's lives on the line etc but you know there it's not driven by emotion it's driven by logic which and everyone in the movie felt like a scientist that was like making scientific choices so it's fun it's not it's not inspiring I mean no I wouldn't call it scary now I I found it interesting is the best way it was almost like a more interesting Nova episode yeah like you yeah if you want like the super nerdy I'm not nerdy but like the very specific details about Earth to Mars interplanetary travel yeah uh Mars is closest point to earth happens every one and a half years roughly about 16 years and a direct flight would take about 260 days ok so that's not crazy and that's about what they were saying yeah obviously the issue more important is the issue of like how do we sustain life for that long and if they land on the planet can they sustain life and like where is this money going to come from given that NASA's budgets keep getting cut so there are I think more logistical issues but they deal with a lot of that stuff in the movie like the politics of like NASA existing and like how they need to release all of the state like everything that he says Matt Damon's character says and types back to NASA has to be public publicly released so there's funny moments where he's like cursing Russian they have the line at least what do you think about all that stuff do you think we think we need to go to Mars do you think I know this is like kind of curveball in here but do you think I mean I'm sure that you ponder that watching this minute I have thought about that idea it's tough man because it's like at a certain point you're kind of saying do we need Mars or do we need to pay teachers more right or like do we need better food in schools and stuff like you have to you know at the end of the day you're making a choice now granted there's also like can you cut one % of the military expenses and have NASA's entire budget maybe I don't know who yeah so Mars is nice I thought I wouldn't mind it um you know but it's I don't I'm not enough of an economist / world creator to make that call takes a while to get that it does just send like can't they just like shoot GoPros at it and like instead of like sending us virtually what the rover is yeah but it's way more expensive it's go just like shoot some GoPros at it with with like a bb8 didn't you just roll it around that water stuffs crazy yeah I think you know I think the biggest thing people you know net it's funny when you watch NASA operate like they always have to operate where it's like we're relevant we're relevant right look at us yeah what we did yeah and I feel like no one really is gonna give them the time of day until they're like we found life yeah like that's what they have to pull up I don't you feel like if that happened like like one of the signals came back and they actually found life don't you think another agency would like instantly take control of that what do you mean like my claim that by the NSA or not claim the news but my arms are like we're not finding beings we're finding like microbial but even okay so let's say we found microbial things like once LG single cell right let's say we found that on Mars that's a week-long news cycle and that's it right and that's super depressing but like and people like what they found cells that are living who cares they're alien cells yeah that's cool that's right it is I mean it's cool stuff it's just a little depressing given like I know how the new cycle would work and it'd be like oh yeah we found aliens like legit aliens okay see you around yeah good luck Cody Kardashian fell on her ass yeah they're all night what speaking of single-cell organism know what what they're only oh they're only sell set on a cellular all right yeah well tell them to selfie us or something is that a pun on cells no no it was not wrong no we gotta sell some advertising go more 404 right after this break will finish things up with some love from the subreddit we got steam machine stuff 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you use an Xbox controller you play the game on your TV and it's basically a console right so now they're coming out with these strictly steam machines which don't run windows no they run steams operating syste Callen expand operations of correct which here's the caveat isn't compatible with nearly the amount of the games are compatible with windows yes so this thing comes out and we're like all right well why would you and so here's another thing they have the same specs yeah for the most part the same price right what do you buy why would you do that and no one can give me a good answer as to why you would buy the steamos steam machine and not the Alpha yeah I don't understand it if it's the same price that's us make any sense to me at all I don't get it and there and I think for indie games you're probably gonna see a lot of like steam OS compatible stuff but for like big titles like other like assassin's creed or call of duty I don't think stuff is going to come to steamos at least not at launch it's weird so like I don't know what their argument is the I always look at it on paper was like okay steam gets the cut out windows like they don't have to pay for licenses and you get a gaming PC effectively right and that's all it is so it's cheaper and it's a gaming PC in it you plug into TV and it just does gaming for the most part right but the second the price is the same in the same specs like wow I don't I don't know why why do I just don't know and they also came out with a controller right and if anything that's the thing but you could buy this separately and you can use the controller windows right they came out of steam controller to call the steam controller it has pc / mouse like tendency is where the face buttons or rather the face pads we're like the d-pad and the you know they have another pet on the right side of the controller their touch sensitive so you can kind of use your right thumb as a mouse in a way if it's like if you use the console controller it's effectively the right analog stick right but there's touch involved in this one right there is also a stick on the left side yes I don't know I played around with it a little bit not a huge fan of it yeah um but there you have it steam machines are real they're they're out now I think the logic they had was that they wanted something that would work with obviously controllers you know work well with like pursue stuff like that but if you're playing like a real time strategy game something like that probably wouldn't work super well with an Xbox controller so that was they wanted something that would work for those games as well but you're not feeling it which makes the use case so small at first there's only these days very small I don't want to see how people respond to this I just don't see them really doing well I think if anything this creates way more of an awareness and willingness to get that first one that supports windows well let's face it i mean you know steam still gets money you're right so for sure al and that and that has me wondering like well maybe this whole thing is just sort of like a weird licensing commitment that just has to be fulfilled um maybe i don't know i don't have a definitive answer but if you're interested in steam machine stuff head over to cnet com we've got the latest on the product that just came out alright you went to go back and watch some x-files yeah so you're going back and you're watching the original season so how many seasons were there for like eight ok but it got really bad after about five or six ok so where are you at now we're still in season 10 ok so a while he was this well Alex had never watched the first few seasons like she started around when the movie came out which was season 5 gotcha and I haven't rewatched the early season in about seven years or so so it's been a while and it's it really holds up I mean granted some of the monstery stuff is hokey but most of it is like they do a really good job hiding the fact that their budget is not huge and they don't have like a lot of money and those episodes are like super entertaining and awesome it's pretty rad don't forget like there's a lot of stuff i mean with you know X Files for me was like one of the first weird shows that i started to watch I mean I got into Twin Peaks a little bit yeah um but I was after the fact I mean I still love twilight zone I love these very strange kind of you know offbeat sci-fi make you think a little bit kind of stuff yeah and expose was a big part of that in the 90s and they are bringing x-files back is the other thing the reboot comes out I think later maybe december or something to you I didn't know if it was this year but I am aware of the reboot yeah so the reboot is coming I think it's a six-episode miniseries effectively and I'm trepidatious because it's been many many many years since good x-files existed do you think moulders just gonna be like was crazy sex anyways like monster well he did love porn that was one of his big things is that he loved porn right in the show yes in the she was fascinated by it yes yeah and obviously in real life he does like sex that's and he was married to tally oni they are they divorced yeah they broke up I think mostly because of the sex thing right um but it's excellent show and early on it's just like instantly charming the relationship is instantly great characters i I've been also listening to Camille none giannis podcast the x-files files which if you like x-files really excellent he goes episode by episode and talks about each one and really entertaining and funny so if you dig x-files or if you haven't watched it ever go back and watch it it's on what's really cool on netflix it's HD I guess think because they shot it on film or a shot on film yeah because it's it is full resolution HD on netflix some of those at some of those storylines especially the one offs yeah we're wasn't this the overarching wow yeah there is one of them's like abducted right or something that I mean that's a lot of them what are you talking about the overarching oversee things like Mulder had all had sisters just deducted and like finding out was printed but the one I just we just watched the one off last night called the ice which is like a nod to the thing mmm the classic car movie and it's just like great interpersonal like reactions and felicity huffman's in it and a bunch of other actors like they did have great really great our guest stars because none of these people have careers been yeah then so just like really excellent and and we now know obviously a lot of the people on The X Files went on to do shows like breaking bad apparently two of the direct writers went on to do the final destination series which I find really interesting that sounds about right um so yeah I mean it's great it really holds up and we'll probably stop watching around season 5 right because you just kind of can give up then you them though the I remember the first movie being good yeah the first month that so that was the end of season 5 and the movie came out and then season six has like a few good one offs there's like a great one on a boat a ghost ship where there's Nazis and they go back in time and it's really super cool there's a lot of bees bees are a big part of it yeah that's like a big conspiracy thing is the bees but the it basically becomes very clear that like the conspiracy that they created could not sustain eight seasons letter right five right it's tough it's tough to its this stuff so they basically could still do good one offs every once in a while but then Dave the company essentially was off the show right it just sort of fell on its face but I have hopes I really just long as I mean they look close enough to how they used to look yeah they're fun it's fine it did not there were two very attractive people ya gonna be fine yeah um alright and then so that's on Netflix you can watch that you can watch all this season and they on amazon and then go on Amazon and watch red oaks it's a show that I started checking out um you know I forget what what freakin time does it take place during can't remember if it's aa he remember if it's the 90s or the eight at the 80s okay late 80s uh takes place a summer camp sort of thing it's got like shades of wet hot in it a little bit just with like this is done straighter is it like a parody no it's it's it's supposed to be it's a straight story but I just love like the styling polarisers in it it's kind of cool what kind of show is it it's like it's like a coming-of-age show about a key a college kid was like finding himself okay set a set with like this red oaks kind of like um summer destination as the backdrop it's like all the weird people that work there I understand and that's what it's like the Gilmore Girls I don't know what that is whatever you think that means but it's on amazon video right now if your Prime member will guess what you got for free that's great then that's the first season that's on yeah I believe it's only one season I really enjoyed also another exclusive amazon show is catastrophe with Rob Delaney oh what's that about it's a BBC show about it was done in the UK and then brought over by amazon it's about an American business guy that hooks up with a woman in the UK has a one-night stand with her and then goes back home and then she calls him and finds out she's pregnant oh wow and then he moves back but it's like a very kind of like a dark comedy but like very wry and good very funny all right there you have it do recreations um yeah i I just I like that I like the vibe Richard kind is in it I love richer kind he's a he's a funny dude and Josh Meyers also admires brother uh yeah it's fun it's just like this weird country called country club that they all like those quirky I quirky yeah family like my community things totally yeah so so definitely check it out ten episodes all available right now in short 26 minute episodes arm all right let us kind of parlay into the sub reddit reddit com / are such the 404 that's how you get in touch with the program could ask us question and give suggestions for the next show anything you want to do uh so let's go to the one for this week's son Turan 97 says have either Jeff or Russell seen Doctor Who did he really say Russell wrote Rossum sighs every well uh whether or not you've seen it what is your opinion of the show your he's curious he or she is curious okay so you've never seen it ice I've been accidentally bumping into it on BBC america sheriff and I'm like what is this yet so it's yeah but I know people love it yeah so Alex my fiance absolutely loves it it's very impenetrable like it's really tough to get into and what got me into it there's like a few like similar to X Files there's like a few a handful of like excellent excellent one-off episodes that like don't have a lot of goofy characters or like goofy costumes or lame special effects they're just like good twilight zone x-files type one-off episodes so those kind of are the ones to check out this an episode called blink that everyone points to is like a good example of that yeah um for me if you're interested I would personally recommend skipping until the first season the Matt Smith started I think that was season 5 wow this is this is not but it's good so that was the issue is like for me I I got held up hung up on like the campy special effects on the costumes and it feels like they didn't really wake up and unlike ways to fix those problems until like season four season whatever matt smith started and i'm sure a lot of Doctor Who people would be like that's blasphemy David Tennant's great and so on and so forth but could pissed off everybody I'm sure I did that for me not am I not being like a huge diehard Doctor Who fan but enjoying it those were the episodes i was able to watch and really enjoy because there's like good he's got a companion that's like good she's a good actress and like good backstory and it's a little more interesting than I think they're all your seasons are yeah but as you said it's super impenetrable if you turn it on randomly i would say eighty percent of the episodes you're gonna be like what how am i watching you would sort of have to get yourself a little bit into it first like dip a toe in with like a more approachable episode and then when they throw a wacky shitty you like sonic screwdrivers and stuff you sort of can handle a little better that's literally a thing a very common thing that comes up so that would be my recommendation there's a great episode written by Neil Gaiman called the doctor's wife I think it's called um and so there are like excellent standout episodes I'm just not sure I'm ever gonna watch I don't think it's for you to be honest I don't think it's your vibe you're pretty dumb so thanks man on to the next story so which star trek not show yeah was the best in your opinion is on other questions are right I don't know anything my son I know enough about Star Trek to know that I cannot voice an opinion everyone's next generation me next generation is generally considered that people really like it I was the what was deep space nine you say Stan was one of them to people like Voyager was another one Voyager has sort of like half and half of those are the best I never got hardcore into the Star Trek episode shows I love Star Trek six of the undiscovered country the movie it's kind of a weird forgotten about movie I think in the group of Star Trek movies but yeah I really like that movie but I never got into show it was like the first kind of show that I got into that was like that was Battlestar Galactica the new one so surrounded by nerds yeah um what is your favorite scripted show currently on TV I can answer that real easily it's a show called Fargo oh yeah a second in Fargo is fantastic it's but that first season was probably the best first season of television I've ever seen I can't think of a show that did it had a better first season other close ones would be lost no no I have an answer for that Breaking Bad had a good first season but Fargo is ten episodes of just like amazing writing amazing acting amazing cinematography and story it's just like what the hell are a psycho not such a good first season oh no cuz I'm trying to think like cop like drama you can be any it could be any I know Rick and Morty had a great first Rick and Morty an excellent first season I think I feel like uh I don't like so there's a lot of stuff on Comedy Central that really solid for season one city at a very good for us season and excellent for a season it's up there but Fargo right now as far as much about if you forgot like this season's looking to be better than the first one which I can't even understand how they're able to do I'm trying to avoid any marketing anything so are you have you watched the first episode no did it aired yeah I watched you should do that here's my issue with it's such an atmospheric like involving whites like you're watching a coen brothers movie commercials are so much cooler than show the bane of that to the point that I'm probably just gonna buy it on iTunes or something to avoid having to watch commercials we just DVR it and fast forward yeah but even that it's leavin that takes me out of it a little bit yeah you need help brother I know I'm crazy another question aside from post in are such the 404 would you consider yourself a poster or an observer on reddit as in do you create a new post often or do you mainly read other posts and comment on them I tend to fall in the latter camp yeah I would say my ratio is probably 20 to 1 in terms of comment to posting but i don't i'm probably 500 to 1 yeah I I and the only time I post apart from the like random posts i do on the subreddit it's like sometimes I'll do like a destiny reddit post I try and I try and do showerthoughts oh yeah I don't really get that I get intimidated by those like huge subreddits because there's just so many so many people it's like oh this is funny yeah and I get frustrated when they don't do anything so that I have had stuff make it to the front page of reddit you have yeah those test your claim to fame I think twice I made it to the front page of reddit I remember that believe me you make sure everyone knows about it lastly from and this is all for has been for Santa Santa ran 97 questions lastly in the theme of Halloween do you think that kids nowadays are more difficult to scare than your generation if so why great question i would say yes i think that's just an evolutionary thing i think like every generation becomes numb to horror to a certain degree I don't think yeah I don't think the new generation is numb i think the they are there they're numb I think they're more exposed to scarier things earlier in life because the internet because of TV being so ubiquitous whatever like they're gonna see horrifying like worms put in ears stuff yeah they're like three right and then by the time they're six they're like oh i'll watch friday 13th i don't care Blair Witch of course I think you're right I think I think that's definitely a thing those punk kids they're gonna overrun us I don't know about that they don't know how to talk to each other um boo jenkins rights in of all the time travel movies and television shows what do you believe got the actual core theory of time travel the most correct what is the core three attendre like who do you think exemplified time travel in the best fashion gotta say he goes on back to the future really made time travel the idea of it pretty cool and stylish it being in a DeLorean sure so what I guess he's the requirements it's like cool establish or like true to like the song like what like yeah like the signs of it or what what entertainment property has presented the notion of time travel in the best light okay I don't know if this is an entertainment property but the book so I had short stores works a sound of thunder huh I that was um oh my god I'm blanking on the author's name now but a Google sound of that you'll find right now in three seconds Oh sound I think it's a sign of thunder and it's from you know it's old but essentially it's a story of time travel where that what's remember ever I thank you i blanked on it I knew is something so whatever it's a short story it'll take you two minutes to read but it's about people that go back in time to hunt dinosaurs effectively and for sport for sport and they have to like stay on this path very strictly and something goes wrong and they someone steps off the path and something goes wrong and then they go back to their current future I guess and things are not as they was butter five it's effectively the butterfly effect but I feel like it was you know you don't really see that level of thought as much I mean you know and there's the classic like the time machine hg wells and stuff like that but i always found the sound of thunder like to be a really concise because it's just a short story or novella i guess but it's a very concise idea of time travel and shows all the potential repercussions because of it and we struggled with i have never read this i'm going to read it I'll read it tonight YUM I I mean I always struggled with some prolific authors and the way they deal with time travel like a Vonnegut okay who on paper I should love Kurt Vonnegut sure i like i love his writing i love his writing but like some of his stuff like that his book time quake yeah like I just couldn't just couldn't do it because that because the science wasn't matching up for you or it just didn't work for me maybe I'm you know I i have a problem reading in and comprehending like i can't always suck down the whole thing where I have a sometimes that I wander a little chair I mind did he do and I have trouble yeah comics me a while to get through books um but you know I don't know that's why short stories work way better for me and comics kind of work better for sure too because they are for whatever reason able to capture my attention yeah uh you know comics also get to the point yeah they don't really beat around the bush but either way a sort story is definitely something that i could probably my head around a little better so I'm gonna check out a sound of thunder yeah believe it or not sound of thunder was published in nineteen fifty two and it made it into Playboy magazine in the june nineteen fifty-six issue Wow I bring a playboy oh yeah relevant because playboy ladies and gentlemen is ditching nudity yep they're putting clothes back on I think it's a smart move everyone freaked out and was like this is stupid or this is gonna headline it's not only a good headline I think it's good for their business of course it is it's like who is buying playboy to see nudes these days nobody and all that all the nudes did for them was make them like make you feel weird buying in a store or like they would have to be blocked in the airport by those like cardboard things that like block all the porn right so whatever now it's like Maxim I mean I'm not gonna go out and buy but I guarantee it'll a help with their advertisers and be probably maybe help with their subscriptions I don't know if anybody going in subscribe to it but might be the kicking a website stuff and you know maybe not feeling bad about picking it up for a flight right arm their readership apparently in subscriptions is 800,000 that's like way more than I thought that is a lot more than I thought but that's down from 5.6 million I think at their prime which is also not a lot here again it's a magazine yeah yeah apparently they did this on the website first they made the website safe for work and then there traffic quadrupled yeah that sounds very it's it's it's great I don't know that they're related necessarily I mean they also had like I think they had that interview with what's-his-name from dark knight as Jim Gordon gaeriel Gary Oldman I think was a Playboy interview right when he said and that was it she talked about fifth element among other things shifted what is it I forget I pretend that denied um yeah so there you have it folks before we say goodbye for the week what is our product hunt game of the week sonic ton game of the week on product uncom / games the game is called down well it is a game that just released on Steam and iOS sadly not Android quite yet shut up it's a it's a tough platforming game kind of like spelunky where you're constantly falling down and you have a jetpack and you're shooting guys but it's randomly generated and you're picking like RPG perks and I absolutely am massively hooked on this game I downloaded it last night and played plan on your phone playing on my phone I put it on the train ride over here I'll probably playing on my train right back just super great constantly your unlocking things and new features and its procedural procedurally generated always new layouts for enemies and stuff like that it's great really couldn't recommend it more highly go check it out down well iOS and steam available now available now how much three bucks come on oh it's on steam but it's three bucks on iOS I'm sure it's similarly priced yeah I'm five at the most yeah all right there you have it a lot of stuff we covered this week well done stuff running the gamut we're back next week back to the future month continues talk about my interview with Bob Gale announcer vestry if you've got something you want me to talk to Bob Gale about shoot me an email to 44 at CNN com reach out on Twitter at Jeff Bakalar russ's a truss fresh dick we're back next week with a brand new show until then I'm Jeff Bakalar Ross rustic this has been the fluorophore show high tech lowbrow big thanks to everyone tuning in right name calling in whatever you're doing keep it up the see you next time
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