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I walk away faster than mostest there you're doing this so wait move up to the microphone it's like they're they're um they're prematurely old or something in there they're out of it they're just they're just distracted it's you think it's not fully present yeah they're they're zombies I mean it's a problem you know it's a problem it's freaky and it's only gonna get worse that's that's gonna get way worse with uh with the VR stuff but I don't think it doesn't make sense that people would walk around New York with a VR head like headset well no but with that you wouldn't have google club were called version google glass you said it man um but what about their phones that people do that as they're walking is that happening you mean their watches where they want to watch us yeah people they don't stare their watches like they stare at their phone right you just a watch is only going to give you very minimal service level information oh right just the time the date I'm not missing out right you don't wear a watch either I don't wear a while and you have a flip phone I don't wear a ring either that's a half a foot how's your wife feel about that you guys dig mentioned it recently yeah what she said I've been together 35 years and she did say something about not very memory so have you ever wondering I did when I first got married and then what was the day that you took the ring off and your light was it a special day really likes you done with this it was uh it was it was you know august 3rd 1980 another but but what but you don't remember the circumstances like I just said I don't lie cuz I kept taking it off and like putting it on the you know in the bathroom on the sink cuz i said i guess i just don't like wearing rings you know i don't like wearing watches i don't like wearing rings I kept putting in there and so he's a conscious decision that I just said you know I'm not gonna just not gonna wear it but it was a conscious decision I'm about there was a decision you made to say hey I'm just not gonna wear this here is the deep dark secret ya don't know where the ring is is so so if she ever says you know you should just put on the ring for this thin asian battle a bad day should just buy like a 12 pack or something yeah get-get yourself yeah she does a variety pack I know what the ring works like it but you just don't know it's okay just don't know where it is not so it's safe whatever it ever wherever it is it's very safe going back to the phone thing though what has you upset about I mean I I can I walk in I delicately fast and they're always in the way cuz they're you're walking like zombies no they're not they're not stare they don't stay on one side either because it kind of just waddle they were I don't and you're like you're trying to get around them and I just kind of still you can tell either that they're looking on the phone your texting right or if they're messing around with music music she's usually much faster i sampled yeah yeah it's a it's a problem it's a huge problem yeah I mean you know I don't after I III I was just out there coming back and seeing all the VR stuff mm-hmm it makes those problems seem real small because I think we're headed for a very different way of life in the next 20 years anything good I mean if you like escaping the I know either shackles our reality we have heinous theme today okay good to know so when we have the streaming when we have the strap on for the games yeah i'll give you a call and up you know i don't want to be involved with that no you know for watching porn and stuff with the attachments yeah that'll be good are you gonna be able to handle that yeah chorus alright want that well i just i guess i guess this is the start of the show because where else can you don't wear these enough you don't have to but a good podcast guest wears them so they know Jewish guilt there's no no big Jewish it has to do everything with being you know simplier on my bed and podcast guest I don't wear them well no it would just be your first time not having worn them uh and they're the reason people wear headphones when they do podcasts so they can hear their own level and know if and when they they drop out that's why of course you're you called yoga you could just tell me that I could but it's much easier speak up Dave speak up exactly who wants to hear that it's fine put a mark on it you're looking well Oh God lower and more as that's the okay god it's like it's basically off okay i just went from 12 to like five o'clock for you you really hear the sound coming out of like those high frequency things i do you do yeah i still hear that won't last yeah you say that you gave me that hearing test when i first met you and I stand I had the hearing of like a nine-year-old good and I can still hear weird buzzing everywhere I go it's a curse it is it's a curse it is the world is not sonically appropriate for me no um so if you if you want to know just what the hell's going on this programs you've gotten berg on the program is here how are you sir I'm good thanks for being here love it here I as akhtar how how was it hold it down while I was gone it was a good time bridgette was in and we were talking about some really stupid stuff well that's okay oh yeah it was completely appropriate was stupid or good it was a good was I talked about the top of his red hamburger from from Burger King Japan okay the bun is is as red as Steve shirt and it's got a red cheese on it and Bridget posited because it's a color in nature it's not disgusting I'm like you know what she's right it didn't look as disgusting when she explained that but why would a completely red hamburger that to me sounds disgusting well the burgers tell self is still Brown yeah okay it's like blood yeah we get it so yeah you could listen to that spin like 90 minutes on a red it was full-on idea down about 10 minutes Wow so whenever Steve comes down he's always got like you know this is no secrets got that chicken scratch little list of stuff he wants to talk about there's just no video right there's there's your Foley artistry work for the for the for the week I i get these emails from him and he senses email let me go he goes glow-in-the-dark condoms is the subject yeah glow-in-the-dark on it is indigo to spam immediately that was not that was not lead though the lead was the gold-plated penis the gold-plated penis and what did you say you're like no I'm starved and the gold plated I can open the stuff incognito because i don't want google giving me suggestions on the phone later on oh by the way you did look at gold plated penis do you want more new stories on this so i saw that from from Steven I was like all right I'm loving where friday so go so there's this this 17 year old man nazario conscious ooh kinshasa gonzalez yeah he's a gang member in LA where he was he's got a few face tattoos if that helps ya three books apart yeah and he got it into his head he needed a gold-plated penis so how do you do that you'd wonder like how do you do that guess I want to have a gold-plated penis well thanks to the Internet and I guess you can figure it out but anyway it first involves before you get to put the gold on you have to plate your penis with lead you do what first led you first he played it with LED played it yeah okay there's electrodes involved so wait a second so there's there's someone out there who who's done the process he did it he's he's God's got a gold leaf he killed him it killed him yeah oh yeah I guess said take the air out of there alone well I mean he's a gang member i'm not saying all gang where we should don't know personally you know yeah it's a shame yeah it is a shame it's a sheets but you know I I actually achieved the same effect with aluminum foil oh you yourself yes you go colors and with him for was that and I thought before or after you saw the story after okay so you wanted to see if you sick you know I want to try the safeway you're like oh this guy died yeah he did it the wrong way he did it the wrong way I'm crafty yeah I can figure out a way to do this I'm like man why didn't you call me so what nazario please a little aluminum foil wrap it around the same effect it's funny cuz you what it's like it's like walking around with an Oscar strapped up same thing wait you were walking around where and were you wearing there was I'm walking around you I was admiring I was just admiring okay would your wife think she wasn't around oh yeah what you couldn't do this without there would be too much laughing right and then she'd be like wait a second where's where's your wedding ring right what's called its 0 be a matching set yeah this is a weird one man i can appreciate it do you recommend people do this or not at all I'm said well I way this guy the aluminum foil absolutely it's definitely definitely a conversation starter at least if you're single I'm also think if you're married it's just it's going to have the opposite make noise with it seems very uncomfortable like when I think of a little aluminum foil I think of like a weird sharpness yeah so how'd ya I don't think it's for actual you know intercourse or anything clearly just I think it just has aesthetic value it seems like the only reason you use tin foil is to preserve right keep it fresh you get fresh yeah I don't know man keep that out of the interns I want to know my under pleasure or something like that I guess oh you're weird you're weird man you're not weird I'm weird nazario did it with led to star so it killed him like right during the procedure either the details are elude me I want to say this didn't happen it did how do you comes from it's all over the internet website clear how could it be wrong the hell's that I feel like pop that that doesn't see no it was it was echoed every and their core they're there they're uh they're citing the world news daily report let's just see you think that's questionable I don't know that an authority it's not CNN yeah I don't know I don't know it's a wee nights on tonight's news what do you have like Wolf Blitzer come and breaking into yeah yeah a golden penis he just talks about killing a man yeah I don't know we're kid kid but you know when you're when you start to worry about the youth then these kids I don't know their name in in England who have come up with um condoms that glow in the dark but not just any old glow they glow in response to STDs oh that's that's embarrassing so it could be like you know pink for syphilis oh it are and you could make your own color-coded disease chart at home i right yeah but they're actually going to sell this thing it's called and the tight and the nate has a product name so you know the name no of these condoms this very special come they're called the UM st i ey e all right here it's got an eye yeah I get it here's the deal right here's my magic car here's why this is stupid though oh because when you've got the condom on right it's a little too late to find out about this stuff now low no no no no I get it the condom is gonna actually protect you for next time for right and what if you're young you want to take off the these these kids that did this or 14 years old what yeah they're thinking ahead or their early you know so if so if so the condom tells me my partner has syphilis yes right that kind of breaks out in the afternoon away in the afterglow you say you're like hold on hold on look at the color Adams glowing pink right now right I think you and I maybe should lose each other numbers right oh no no you're doing the gentlemanly thing right you're saying work out as you can tell but I don't know no I think you're too fast I think you got it say you know let's let's have a timeout and reconvene after you take care of it it's green for chlamydia yellow for herpes purple for HPV and blue for syphilis so we come there you go that's your code you gotta keep what if all the colors like it's a come with like a wrist bands you know which one you're getting under my wife because you Apple watch any whopper one smart condom and then Apple watch turns pink and after you take it out you can put back your loom and foil it's perfect crazy I like it though it's a good story it is a good story is it you know kind of counter balances the goal penis thing yeah for sure cuz when that kids dead but these two 13 or 14 year-old Zuri they're off the fame and fortune that's the last penis story though right um ataque check your notes I think that's the last one you have a lot of stuff today I actually brought some self to the table as well I know I wanted to get to let's do it so the first thing I wanted to talk about is like some uber stuff and some robotic self-driving car on my list yeah alright great synchronicity you can chime in ok so uh two things one there's a big story um that's really I guess it's more like a non-story that came out earlier today I think or maybe late last night about two self-driving cards and almost collided you heard about that this guy was like a delphi car at Delfy or Delphi Delphi Delphi car and a Google car out west they almost collided and like that's the story was any human or any human so the the way in which the self-driving cars have been approved to operate on public roads is along with the prerequisite that there's a human driver behind the wheel who can intervene if things get hairy so that so the car apparently uh got cut off by another self driverless car self driverless car and uh uh there was no accident it was just like a close call because the humans intervene no they didn't this but so that's the thing like they're all so what I do they were sleeping right so newspaper well whatever it is like why is that a story no one got hurt it's just 22 self-driving cars that didn't collide fine so I was digging a little deeper on this story uh and it turns out like we have not really thought a lot of this through and i don't mean the technology because this is gonna happen in the next five to 10 years it's going to be me it's going to be a mainstream thing i believe but you really got to think about like some of the more creepier upsetting things that will wind up happening we're in certain circumstances where an accident is inevitable and you just can't avoid it and the computer driving the car just will not be able to get a result where everyone avoids accident mmm so then computers are then going to be making decisions that perhaps a human driver would never make like for example if you're in a self-driving car and you're about to maybe you're in a situation where you're going to like collide with a school bus full of kids mmm or does the computer say oh I don't want 20 people to die I'd rather just have my guy died and drive you into like an embankment like a greater good protocols like well we could kill a hundred are you right and on a what a human driver do the same I don't think so I've not human drama because you are right into that bus well I don't know I don't through those kids these are these are these are decisions that are made in milliseconds right right so a computer can handle that right yeah so what happens though like this is going to be a thing right where a computer can detect everything else on the road can assess what the you know oh well the probability of a fatal accident with this other mini cooper is super low but with that school bus it's super high so i'm going to hit the Cooper so why is that it's not bad Justin of it but it's another but what if you're in that car like what if you're in the car that decides to go kamikaze I guess kamikazes the wrong turn what if you're in the car that decides to take itself out right that's bad for Steve you're right so how do you feel about that that is a cyber punk future but if but if I had to intervene and then like now and kill not coconut but if if we do it the old-fashioned way and then you just plow into the bus and kill the 20 kids then you feel really really bad and then yeah but I guess I mean when you hear where I'm getting that I kind of see what you're saying but I would imagine that the protocols would set it where the car learns how to crash the safest way possible so that way you're not taking all the crumple zones actually crumpled and you survived so it's not gonna send it in a bank make embankment that's gonna make you die right it's gonna set you up where you're gonna get injured but not as badly but how could you know that for sure when we have would you know that I'm saying how would you know how could the computer I guess you could always suck it you know err on the side of like probabilities and and and whatnot in and the computer would always make the right choice let's not figure out what what angle do I have to hit this this Boulder right such that this person in the car won't be killed and you can even make the argument like even in a world where every car is automated and every car is self-driving there are still other acts of foreign forces of nature that will intervene like tree will fall you know like a deer will come out there are things that will happen that a computer is just going to have to make a split-second decision on and it's it's kind of crazy I feel like we jumped right into this self-driving car thing we're like oh that's cool it'll be fine you know that they'll figure it out which I still am very confident they will yeah but there's a lot of other elements we maybe haven't the public taken into considerable with you know sacrificing my life to save the 20 children you would I would it's for the greater good i believe is a greater there should be an option when you get into the car like organ or or you know i'm willing to take my chances I let science decide whether the car should a car like look at you linking linkedin profiles like are you valuable to humanity like how much are you worth what it's it's it's a a prison bus you like maybe we should slam into that yeah I think you're given with a desert think you're talking about the one of the end plots of dark knight rises what is it the Dark Knight isn't that what the boat full of criminals now hopefully I guess I am Sicilian with a man influenced by what a MIDI are recognizes it's the kid that invented the STI then they go we gotta protect this uses a valuable asset if what if it's what if it's the president yes in the car right next to you yeah right there you go you gotta go we're painting a pretty bleak picture of the future I think this is the future that's what's always exist hey everyone thanks for listening to our program you know we have a lot of great advertisers lately and we really appreciate the fact that they help support the show and most importantly they keep it free for you so one of the reasons why people love advertising with our program is that they know we have awesome listeners take a second look in the mirror and and and what you'll see is 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an internet game well like war goes home and he's you know he's up till three or four o'clock in the morning playing game did he say what games like screwing up his life now you didn't say what they were free said I don't remember there are people it's like that's it's an addiction so the better it gets it's like heroin it's like the more and more addicting it will be of course then you just have a shitty VR experience to I mean they're not all awesome are they they're not all awesome i'll select though you'll leave a yoke this is a crappy when i look for the good right all the good stuffs gonna float to the top I mean you know the Sony's Morpheus is not on the same level as oculus by far oculus for me right now and I haven't played with the vive yet the HTC vive but that oculus rift is going to blow your freakin pants off that's awesome to hear it is in same like some of the demos they were doing there and I and I people are gonna be like whoa Jeff's way too pumped on this you can't knock it till you tried it and I know it's not accessible right now and I know we're in a situation where we have the luxury of getting to try this stuff out early but this stuff is going to change the world absolutely without a doubt now I'll get me wrong like sure it could flop and something happens where you know people just don't take to it for whatever reason from what I've seen and the demos I've heard people tell me about and everything all the evidence I have in front of me this stuff I would be very surprised if this stuff did not explode and take off in the way I think it will what about it being disorienting though you know I'll say about it watching 3d movies and stuff it gives you a heavy it is and it takes your brain a good 10 minutes to sort of understand what you're seeing I did this one thing where I was wearing a Morpheus headset and I was peddling a bike but the bike like you know when you're on a bike you sort of lean and whatnot and I was doing that on the stationary bike because my brain my eyes were telling me oh you're out in a field mm-hmm so there's a little bit of give and take that that you have to do but when it comes to stuff when you move away from the gimmicky stuff like the bikes and whatnot and you're just in a with someone and you're spawning things with your hands and your sort I mean so your hands are part of it yeah you can see your head back yes so the oculus rift has those go the the Halfmoon controllers where it sort of maps your fingers like you can see your hands in this thing uh can you feel anything three or not yet but you will be on promise you you will be able to I mean this stuff you talked about how much this stuff is still in its infancy mmm and where it could be in in five years let alone 15 25 years forget it forget it and it's not just games games is just the tip of this iceberg I mean that's just the first no-brainer and it's not porno oh they'll be porn okay oh yeah they'll be porn okay now now Steve's interested sad Steve up can I bang this yeah you can bang cool i'll take six of them yeah yeah it's gonna be uh it's gonna it's gonna knock your your your your face and one you're gonna knock your face in the face it's what those things I see it thanks yeah so it's great it's creating the right business I it's a it's a good time for this industry for sure where to go but up definitely it was a great III over but seriously I mean this this I can't get up with this guy he's not like a kid he's in his mid-forties how he was he's proud he's probably but he's more credits guy he sounds like a world of warcraft guy yeah yeah it's me to screw up his life it's like a serious thing right so will this is the bed at three o'clock L'Amour's got to be at work at nine o'clock sure sure it's no different than an alcoholic or someone who's got a cocaine problem can't stop yeah it's a pretty just one hour I gambling seems like you yeah totally addicted to anything there right if you could turn pointing into me all the time or whatever yeah but I mean this is more intense apparently right it's more life disrupted like TV is more intense version of radio but I maybe I think it'll balance out over time right you can have people who never leave the house again and they'll be happy to do that sure and then they'll be people like wait a minute I have to go out like take care of my life every now right yeah i mean like he needs to seek out help this guy like if he like he came to you he's a friend of your suspension it that's all he mentioned it casually well maybe those is mainly those a very quiet call for help he sleep deprived no one is telling you that what it is like a baby all kidding aside tell this guy say to be like you know Bob will call him Bob they don't Bob you can talk to somebody about this you can get help okay cuz it's not a normal way live I I sympathize like I would love to stay up every night till five plan Batman but I can't right now man you can't ruin your life is gonna ruin your life and if you operate on two hours of sleep every day your life's gonna be ruined you're gonna feel like you're gonna look like yeah you're probably smell like yeah so next thing you know gold-plated penis and then it's it and they're digging digging you a hole yeah all right let's pick Boober a cleaver so choose two quick anecdotal stories about uber am out in LA by the way Ella in New in LA uber is free for the most part like it's what does that leave me like it costs very little money are you gonna ride it oh yeah ma I went I went six miles 20 minutes like seven bucks and how much is it here here that would probably be like 30 there is a difference in cost without isn't it like gonna hear it goes up and down depending on whatever after whatever it is amazing that the scale is higher I am a firm believer and I don't know the magic behind the curtain but there's there's no doubt in my mind that all that stuff is just you know elevated proportionally right but the but they're all go up and down they're not static they do but the the in terms of like time versus mileage and distance okay I think those rates here are higher than they are in LA okay it's like if you were really has car I guess if you were to take two of the exact same trips mmm the LA one would be cheaper anyway you open up the app in LA and there's there's like 90 different little ubers you can do you could do over plus uber lu x uber lux all these different new words i never heard of so every night i was like trying a new I'm like oh whatever what's playing a game yeah I'm gonna do plus go I do plus one night guy pulls up in a Mercedes I'm like all right I hit the good guys I did the good one I was like this is plus i wonder what looks is right so I he opens up the door for me you know almost like the whole white gloves her sike hello Jeff how are you I need you to know I only pick up people with ratings higher than 4.7 you're a 4.9 I was like sick opens the door for me we have a nice little conversation for 10 minutes and they're you and he's telling me all times like i'll pick up anyone below 47 can't be bothered with them I'm like why what's oh he's like he's like they eat in my car they these like I had a he's like I had someone take a piss in my car I was like never again under four points that guy was to whom he must have been so yeah I was kind of blown away and then this week I had a driver who told me again my rating so two people within two weeks have told me the rating that you're really never supposed to hear I guess an uber customer you're not supposed to hear that number but when you call for a ride they see you and they say I'm not gonna accept that yeah you say I want that guy oh they can say no shoes you can't accept it and then I guess you could do that but you can't just accept it and then decline it how do they see your rating yeah when you when you do that when you drop that pin mm-hmm they know who you are and what your rating is okay and they can have their own personal sort of you know screening process where they say Oh Jeff's you know Oh Steve's of 3.2 yeah I'm not picking that bum up rackley you know uh so yeah so this more I have the same thing and then I have some this conversation and I feel like every time the thing that's different about an uber and a taxi and uber I have these amazing conversations with these drivers I hate those man why do you sound like I'm in the car I'm trying to get somewhere I'm not your friend i'm showing you to drive me so why are we talking and that's your prerogative if you don't want to talk you don't have to work too oh you don't have to do it that's how this you'll be like hey dude I'm sorry I I gotta read something I tell you the story where a guy in uber picked me up and had the Spotify connect thing working on there we get spot if I hooked up with yet and so I wanted a song playing when I got in so I think that's kind of neat i want to try the first time right and so I go it's a little loud to turn it down he goes new sound system like Oh newgen no seriously can you turn it down he's like new sound system he turns the volume way the hell up oh that's so moved one star for me right away it goes on like this for about 20 minutes it's like you know what I'm gonna listen to my music I'm gonna start singing along screw it like I'm gonna be really obnoxious at this point I can't get this guy to turn the damn thing that's a magic took you to the hose I could do that I was like you know what if this guy's not after the first song I'm like you know what I'm gonna go with it but when I asked him twice I'm like least I don't know what kind of argument get into this with this guy if I turn this off I don't know what's gonna happen cuz I still got you know a good while to go on this ride it was one of the strangest trips have taken because I wanted to sleep in the car just wanted to hear one song but that was a mess wow that's crazy yeah so maybe he rated me he's like hey at the end he's like Bray playlist I was like thanks thanks I'm gonna go to sleep now well anyway that was my last uber experience our most recent feel like the majority of the people I get are mostly friendly I've had bad drivers and I've raided them accordingly but on the whole they're better than taxi driver as much as it pains my father to say that he wasn't he's a piece of it he's very involved in the taxi business so perfect so those people who are over drivers right it's their car they pay for everything right ah their insurance it's their cars their everything honestly he's the better guy to ask but I do believe a it is true yeah so basically they're working for a fraction of what they would get if they driving a cab not the cab drivers are doing so great right not there it's it's it's it's basically pushing everything down except for the billionaire guy that started oh he's doing great yeah I mean but everybody else like it's your car it's your insurance it's your everything it seems the layer basically sit paying for the app to get customers it's sick right again right right there basically subscribing to that app right the so the way I understand it and the the way it was explained to me recently is that the uber driver community is much is overpopulated in a lot of areas and where it used to be that you would get a fair her right away now it could take longer and so some of those who guys about way maybe I don't know I do know for a fact to keep driving around for any money on gas sure right so that's just sitting there waiting right it's like this hourglass this is like always emptying there are more uber drivers in New York City than there are cabs now okay which I guess is not surprising yeah but uh but yeah it's it's a weird time for uber and that's all part of the race to the bottom I mean it's a great service for for consumers but it's just screw you know screws everybody else who's the seems to be professional driver it seems like we can't have these new web-based services without something eventually like someone suffering at some point more and more people suffer it seems like we they'll the product is great on the rich get richer everybody else gets screwed but like ubers think for a while was like you're gonna make 90 grand your first year driving over and I don't know I don't know if that's true or not I don't know I can't imagine you would have to drive a lot i'd imagine yeah i mean i just all those things really frighten me that it's like the whole economy you know it's thing where rich people get richer and richer and richer than they've ever been before by a huge margin and then everybody else the middle class on down is living on less and less and less in real dollars are you gonna run for president again yeah it's good baby I think you could fix it I think I could I would love it just vr4 everybody nobody travels anymore that's the position right that's it gold penis is all around forever chicken in every pot and read me but lead-free go penises cuz I'm a health-conscious you have a new method of plating land yes so okay it's organic so you're so your micro your micro manifesto right there you'd probably really enjoy this new show called mr. robot no no have you heard about I've heard of it the big thing that stands out to me is the fact that they use the Sega font from yeah so they're definitely ripping off the Sega typeface for sure for the show's logo that's a much that is an issue and I'm trying to get the the producer and creator of the show are you Justin so I can talk damn and that'll be the first thing I grill him on he did the UH grill dragon tattoo right no that's the director okay yeah the director of the pilot directed the swedish version of that for that movie was freaking also i cannot sail where is it so it's on it's on peculiarly enough it's on USA Network which is not going to work known for cyber thrillers like mr. runoff I have that you do its standard you have cable yeah do you have yes and basic you ever have a rabbit ear and I go like this but aluminum foil on it right and then you gold played it so mr. robot is the probably the best attempt to tackle cyber security and the quasi underground world of hacking in the least cheesiest corniest way I've seen in a while like it's equal parts Fight Club there's a little bit of like sneakers in it and hackers I guess you could say hackers being 20 years old now is pretty damn cheesy for a film that covered cyber punkin you know hacking whatnot but it's pretty good and I'm and I didn't think I was gonna like it and I wound up liking it so if you haven't seen it i believe the pilot is streaming online for free it's called mr. robot okay Christian Slater's in it oh right that's why I thought the show was doomed because every time is on TV if that show gets canceled within like a seasoned well he's been on Archer for a few seasons and that's been great yes and no it's animated is not I know he's just later it's easy when Christian Slater is on a show he's to be kryptonite my own worst enemy which is it was a pretty good show on NBC and that's survive the season then he was on another Fox show I'm like I'm not getting into that because I want to see if it survived to season gone yeah so this one I heard I hear you're saying it's awesome but Christian Slater he's these TVs not he's not a huge part of the show it's not about him good at least in the pilot like without him I really got nothing wrong with him he was in the wizard with Fred Savage and Beau Bridges in the Nintendo movie in the 80s you don't know that film Steve's like one of my power glove right powerful so go watch mr. robot I love a report from you I well he it is it up there with inside Amy Schumer that show is totally different she is amazed you like you like yourself some Amy Schumer I did she's just so funny and great weird and she's got unlimited about being unattractive walk you know yeah I mean I don't think she was necessarily on a truck she's not i mean when she can let herself be on our track she has no uh what's the best way to put this I it's fun and respectable and to watch her sort of have fun with herself yeah is is that I guess the most appropriate way to say it yeah I'm just good people surrounding Scott great writers right right and I like that some of the bits are really short you're havin ya suffer through five minutes at the same stupid thing over over right get in she's very funny she's very funny yeah and pacing is great I like broad city better I like Brett city better okay just want to get on it's not it's not on right now right it'll be back soon enough hey well well of course they have thirties of course um okay we've covered a lot what else do you have for a Steve so you know by the way is just a quick aside Saturday will be my 1300 uh audio philly act block you don't get to commemorate Lee I don't you did on this show so what're you gonna go play for that um I can't say I'm not at liberty to say gold played a microphone yeah anyway it's welcome sir miles that's great 1300 1300 a lot why didn't you you didn't do anything for your thing they wouldn't let me so I said I couldn't do it who's they this is Annette overlord people above yeah so are you so but you are doing something special for you no no no I can't say Oh excitement you know 1300 right thousand or whatever right all right just mentioning it was this congrats man that's a big milestone so you know I was thinking about you being a new father oh good yeah I was the key know I kind of knew who my grandparents were but I never met my great grandparents and people you know some people know their great-grandparents who were alive or maybe even your great-great grandparents but unless you're from like a very wealthy family you don't know who your great-great-great great great great grandparents right they could probably look it up you probably could but no one knows unless you're royalty who your ancestors were from a thousand years ago sure or 10,000 years ago right or 50,000 years ago yeah but you know backwards go back to infinity right I guess eventually yeah so what if the you know what if there was a Jeff Bakalar 10,000 years ago and you were an Eskimo this would make sense right okay go on you know like not using your ice skills this is how you got to be this way it's like a recessive gene like you like called and hitting things with sticks that's a rich man it is yeah Eskimo I don't look anything like an Eskimo well now you know in 10,000 years later there's lots of generations of backers and sees it I mean I could take a DNA test and maybe find out some more of that yeah or maybe you were in Russia okay I called the Siberia I think about the had to have been somewhere you like fish yeah that's more perfect there it is proofs right yeah we think about blubber you like whale blubber yeah yeah do you were you clearly wrong vegetarian right so but you know blub so anyway but what if Woody Allen existed 10,000 years ago or his you go back ex-general ins ancestors right right his lose he the same guy was he like the same vechi cranky I don't know but annoying God brave can't let me to continue the line you'd think yeah because they would survive he would like yeah but what about me 10,000 years personality your personal yeah hi person it's all affected by environment I understand that so it has to be some innate pneus to it right left up is like a linear inner core what I mean I probably oversimplifying the whole thing yeah but the way you're describing it makes me like think to you know a caveman family like one of them is like this nebbish jus right like a Jew II want me to eat all these days crazy oh I just have a nice can we get a light in here what it goes you know like some like what fire you know what it's freezing in here yeah like that yeah but you see that there don't have you like one annoying right guy in the care maybe that's how there was progress somebody's like why is it so cold like exactly when the fire is everybody else was telling the Jew ish person was fetching and saying we got to do something about the dark in here this is crazy this is no way to live me bigger rocks what is it so much to ask I don't know Steve out you don't think this is it sound like a mel brooks movie like a history of the world I'm saying it in a funny way but i think that there's some part of it it has to be true it's / it's possible it's definitely possible what about Martin Scorsese 10,000 years ago yeah what he couldn't do what's that thing that now that we're not on video that so your thing yeah were you making l with both your hands you know frame-up something right in frame yeah they doing that the hip fingers then they could have been doing is he like wait maybe he was blocking out things you don't want to see like oh there is a tiger if i just look over here that tree if I just put my hands up I can't see the tiger that will be eating right I love that this is this is what you brought us this is like but wait yeah okay yeah go so we took the trip back we did we went all the way back but but but Dylan's children's children's children's children's children right like I said a thousand years you're now yeah cool we think that you were hit because we have i phone sixes right wouldn't when there's the iphone you know 712 okay they look back at us and think we're like bugs yeah that'll be your cavemen will be lower than caveman at least there's certain things that we have in common with cavemen but a thousand years from now human beings will be so there will be so little human in them I guess but a thousand years from now or ten thousand where we would still ten thousand years now be closer to that generation than we were two cavemen right yeah we would be well in time in a time there'll be so much more we've only had technology for in 200 years frankly being generous with the 200 years here right sure give it a 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click on the microphone at the top of the homepage type in cnet please do it for us stamps.com enter seen it click microphone at the top and a big thanks to Sam calm for sponsoring the 404 show welcome back to the show Steve goes wait that's it that's all the time I thinking campuses I think you sound like say tuned for Steve's vision of the future is the future seems like you know I can't see very oh man so I'm we're in the future we're in the future now I mean you know I love sci-fi stuff where they shoot you five ten thousand years in the future and it's all lights just like it allow organisms like that with bigger numbers yeah robot organisms or whatever it is so yeah we always think when you watch movies that the hair styles of people in the future were just like the hairstyles in 1965 everybody should do it fashion as it has a tendency to repeat it's a cyclical yeah you see this mutton chops yeah cool that's gonna be good twenty thousand years now mutton chops are gonna be again I mean look at most people's I glasses right they are harkening back to the 50s and 60s right now yeah well I thought you're not the round ones i'm waiting for those to come right I like I'll come back don't worry because i like those and i tried to the route like John Lennon right Harry Potter and I wanted those and then they said they don't make those any right they'll come back around okay I'm sure you find them now if you want on you but maybe maybe it's 10,000 years so what does that future look like you've had a minute what does that future look like it looks very cool you think Cole do you think the work you're worried about two cars are about to hit each other that a computer is going to make a decision hmm there's gonna be very little human decisions made in a thousand see I think sometimes it well I think a lot of the world would be I mean you know I've said this before but I think a lot of it'll be automated in robotic and virtual right and virtual like do you think we'll have bodies you think we'll just be like yeah do you think we upload it into some sort of like any tricks that is definitely coming I don't think that's a ten thousand euros in years away like the hundreds of you think they'll be this like this digital transcendence where yeah we no longer occupy like by my friend addicted to games pretty much everyone will be in that see live in a server racks on a server right and then a certain class of people like to extremes the workers have to physically move stuff around the drones the drones but they could be where are these uploaded drones or these are just the people moving the server these are the worker bees are the worker bees no I was just they have to get they have to work in the real world I think about like a class system within the server's like there's the birthday of it that the servers have virtual machines and those like the poor they can't even afford their own turn dial our parent dialect is just one anyway you were saying they're only allowed a certain Pat a certain amount of packets and bits and bytes every day right it's the region yeah their data plan yeah yeah but then there'll be a big people swatch people in the middle we're in this virtual thing but then the elite elite elite like the Donald Trump's get to obey yeah well relax I really will be back in the physical world and they'll have like everything to themselves they'll have like entire estates and making clay drive fast cars around and you know so you think the ultimate in freedom and privilege will be bad to fist be the ability to live in the real world yeah and eat the food that's pretty dark mm-hmm taste the real is real things yeah instead of like this you can get anything you want virtually for food and any taste you want right but it's the stream end it'll be actually eating yeah well I think the best way is that for my fancy dark and i like it i think the best way to sort of predict the future seems like a humanities purpose in life is to just emulate sci-fi movies right like it seems like all we really want to do is get to the float the hover boards more and the flying car or better easier stuff you know think about walking around like a zombie looking at your phone yeah it's like the least amount of effort to do anything is the human goal right yeah if there's like two stairs people will take the escalator sure it's like they always opt for the simplest easiest simplest way of getting something and you could make the argument and then that it becomes more and more possible they will just think that more and more but you can make the argument that that's the path of least resistance is like ultimate efficiency right like you could make the argument like the best way to get to somewhere is to like expend the least amount of energy right I'm not saying that like a world and where we're all can't we evolved that we don't have to think that way maybe because we used to have their like Club animals and climb up trees to survive to eat things all right well now when people have to do the tiniest bit thing like boil water or something they freak out like oh my god is too much work months that's how it's good there's a lot of work tho you gotta get the water and you got to put it on the stove you got that the heat going then the apartment gets warm and then I'm like your nice air conditioned apartment is now getting warmer team this is terrible your glasses get steamed up you can't see anything Bernier's I see yeah this is hort you're right this is horrible no one should ever boil anything right I mean it's it's weird it's scary to think about the think about what had the ultimate like end goal is for Humanity because what is it what is the goal of humanity right now in 2015 the day-to-day person who lives in a in a in the United States get the most amount of Instagram weeks that's the first that's the first go it's like the imperative yeah but basically my view is to just try to fill your life with as many good and interesting things as possible right right not that's not relating things then what people are like effectively staring at their phones who they like maybe something better here something better here something better there right yeah they need that constant thing right my flip phone doesn't do that so I'm safe from that for now for why I don't don't see you upgrading anytime soon hmm i think is that i think there's an inevitability there that the flip phone will have to go yeah my dad finally got an iphone oh this is big the end is near hated though he hated a can't can't how long does he have it like four months huh he just is he mellowing he's got to be bellowing a little bit i just don't think he wants to give it the time of day like he just doesn't want to be by he just doesn't want to be bothered with it huh so why does he get a foot prod after a while you just gotta you gotta put away old habits you know you just let it get it he just got it because it was guided because it was time and he wanted to like see photos of my kid and he can't do that on his lip on his flip phone and he wanted to enter that next level I guess and all his friends have iphones it's not like he was going against the grain it wasn't like he was you know alienating himself he just he needed to do it they were you know and the phone was gonna break one day and you really can you get a flip phone a new flip you know I guess I just got we can I just got a new one but then like people look at you weird yeah I like that yeah so you know you don't have a thing about Bluetooth speakers and wireless speaker they sound terribly sound bad yeah I had this idea you know we just got in the sound room we have this I think it's seventeen hundred dollar French very high-end bluetooth speaker okay so I had this idea you know before there were bluetooth speakers they were boom box right boom boxes were like the original wireless speaker ahh 1968 we had wireless speakers we called him radios and then we call them radios so anyway so I I I put up a thing on facebook to my friends and said can anybody lend me a boombox someone has stepped forward and is gonna give me their boombox on Monday like the cassette 12 yeah well cassette and CD bro no it's like this big yeah maybe like 15 which is why ok so I'm going to bring that in and I'm going to compare it to bluetooth speakers and wireless speakers guess which one is going to sound bad well what's the source a CD I'll play a CD on both of them play an elf how can you do CD with Bluetooth well take a wire and really the same thing off Spotify on them gotcha gotcha that'll be odd I'll read that which one do you thinks gonna sound better Jeff I think that 1991 boombox will crush this ridiculously no actually in fact i think i think the blue bot i do think the boom box will sound better just because it's gonna have better speakers right right right exactly okay good we have here it'll be heavier and it's but it'll look cooler look cooler that's for sure so it's gonna be a good face off all right excellent gonna be fun so I have one other quickie okay and then we'll get to some reddit stuff I'm okay so speaking of the past the sony walkman is going to be 37 years old on july first okay he's uh he's entering made adulthood eight adults we just bought a Corvette yeah oh yeah that's been life crises 947 he's 37 okay Anna for mini cooper yeah Mini Cooper whatever so anyway I'm gonna do a thing about my memories of the early days yeah the Walkman the Walkman and then the disc managed man I had that first disc man he did and man John was it was it a d5 he remembered you I was like eleven remember but anyway I think that's kind of it is cool you know because that really that really changed everything that's where music William mobile yeah i mean but the discman and wires plague from the start like that thing skipped and yet a whole does that pretty way the skin protection started to work it was just I remember being like men they really gotta figure out a way to have you were very impatient I was very mean everybody else was so happy that you could play a CD like some point I'm like you guys haven't perfected as yet is wrong with my like the guy in the cave with the yeah I'm like hot is this the best we can do um I've ever had that that Panasonic yellow one those like the water lumber for SWA yeah yeah yeah there's nice headphones in 1-2 and gray was yellow and gray for some reason I remember mine was yellow black and orange okay yeah I love to find and and had these very satisfying claps clasps on either side that snapped in give you that nice sort of firm hold I was a big fan of that thing okay let's jump into the reddit section of the show what is that I don't know you've never been you know redness we got a subreddit I'm much and every week we post a little thread for that Friday's show and people throw and stuff okay at uber stuff sucker would you would you listen like I would I was having this conversation with his uber driver and I was like I want to broadcast my camera same with you undo like an uber cast huh but would you want to hear that yes you would yeah well you do it I was like a taxicab confessional sort of thing yeah you can carry mics on you what are you gonna do I gonna make you feel like I could get away with the following right phone yeah it'll sound like but it is zoom for a little he has water I like the zoom and just do like a periscope when you're doing it live if you're like hey dudes is cool if I record this conversation and then what if he's like no no there's nothing you can't do it I don't like all you ruined room that's a whole conversation episode set up so 1 i'm gonna start doing that uber yeah yeah all right back to reddit Jay Brussels wants to know and we've covered this with you but I will entertain him nevertheless not sure if this has been covered previously but have you Steve and actually met the other the second Steve Guttenberg we've we have wait time out time it says in parentheses as made famous by the Stonecutters is that what he was made famous by that's not a Simpsons right police academy yeah the other well they actually say in the song who made Steve Guttenberg oh so we do nice correctly i miss you don't know the Stonecutters did with the simpsons no no all right Homer the great have you ever met him nope never met him but I know people who know him and we keep almost getting together we have met and he is he aware of you yes he's aware of me well first of all if you do a Google search on Steve Guttenberg he's number one and number two number three so if he ever searches his own name too he's number one and I'm number two I thought you said your number three and there was little bit I'm like the third one down all right I gotcha any player he has to be where he has to Google is there you have any personal thoughts about him you know I do because I was really embarrassed when he started making really awful movies yeah you know maybe I shouldn't say severe but it's like he made such all ate mostly made some okay movies but then he made some really embarrassing Lee bad one like what like the men and the baby ones no as our bed after that there was this one I was still a movie theater projectionist and I was thinking god this is really gonna have to say something's gonna lower my personals yeah and then there was this thing you know I you know it's so long ago i think i've talked about this before right that my father had another family yeah you know i don't know if you've ever really heard it my bad yeah so you know like maybe I thought Steve Guttenberg could actually be my brother I thought it'd been like my father's thing that he would name his children from both families in the same names inconsistent you remember yeah easy to remember yeah so I thought would that be weird if he was my brother he isn't like I think I know now enough about he's not my brother but he said be my brother and I'm sure we've just opened up Pandora's box for single listeners they're like wat steve has another family no well i get i do a step-sibling I step-siblings I dare yes and you've met that I've never met if you never met ever met you lay in this dimension no parallel to 10,000 years ago do you have the design you have the desire to seek them out no I don't even like a lot of my relatives or even though you share i dunno but i have met I don't like most of them but even that's fine I don't understand this whole family yeah I know it's kind of confusing it is confusing I I'm supposed to like you cuz I'm related to you right is my questions I don't think so I mean it does seem unable to love that because it related to you it may use not to like them that's what I've learned about fam love them that's the thing almost stronger than like I know it's a weird thing race wasn't like you're supposed to care about them if they get hurt you're supposed to care but it's nice when you actually like your family though oh so here's the deal I think it applies for your immediate family our immediate fam parents yes Cora specializing our siblings of course yes but really beyond that cousins that I felt like three times in my life no I don't think so actually mad I met one of my cousins I haven't split back 25 years but that's the thing it's not good but it was really bad but that's the thing right like your dad's brother and your uncle I'll call ya your dad has that relationship uh-huh but you don't because it's not your dad right so you understand how complicated it's very complicated oh don't know so no and you have no desire to make these other guttenberg my siblings yeah your steps apply steps the links now it's not it's a nutty story will read it in the book when it comes out next year I am writing a book I know very slowly it's not about that that's that being a projection us all right well you can pepper in some of your personal stuff guy from Trinidad loves that you're here and wants to know your whole opinion on the taylor swift apples stuff yay she did the right thing right but I'm not so sure about the photographer thing you know that thing about the freelance photographer it has to be like what source of clearances and hoops you have to jump through and then basically Taylor Swift Inc owns the pictures that are taken of her so she came out and be you know sort of uh became the spokesperson for independent artists even though she's the least for this there's a reason to hate Apple but she had a shame them into do I should a shame those two doing a company that's a hundred billion dollars in the bank and they're like what's gonna pay artists for its but it's those micro payments of right that's y 0 Z so what's the big freakin deal you write the check for twelve million dollars recover right you're done for the three month yeah so here's what I understand my socks right does suck and clearly she's not someone who needs the money she our seed into herself herself he's not an independent art of course she's not and that's cool that she did it yeah but for the independent artist they're still Tamia okay now they're gonna get 30 bucks instead of nothing right like what a good day on a good day so so what do we do i do have a solution to this vexing problem now that the mechanics of how it gets done this is trickier i'm not an account button um you know the way the pie is divided in the spotify title world is the people at the top the taylor swift's the top of the pyramid people they get paid first now let's say i love Miles Davis and I listen to nothin but miles davis for 24 hours a day on my spotify account Miles Davis estate still gets a tiny tiny tiny payment not like seventy percent of my 10 that my set seven dollars of my ten dollar subscription doesn't go to him it goes to Taylor Swift first she gets paid and all the people at the top of the pyramid get paid so so a more equitable system would be that the people who you listen to if you're really into LCD Soundsystem and you only listen to LCD Soundsystem and two other bands that they would get the money they would get seventy percent because they always say they pay seventy percent of the things back to the artists and labels right that would be the right thing to do and that would be you know the way it should be really divided it shouldn't just be divided among the people at the top and then the trickle down to everybody else because not everybody listens to everything right yeah it's that that is the solution and there are reasons why I can't happen because record companies have a lot to say so of how that happens and they don't necessarily give a about those people at the bottom so that's why it's not happening but if there was a if the fans sort of rally together and in thinking about that I think that would have a shot and i'm going to try to use my massive influence all right just don't start another title just don't do that I like title you like the technology it sounds good you don't like what you don't like their business model no and I've told him yeah uh I hope that answered the quest it sort of did that was good enough for me four for friday jdl are 28 says this I like Steve give some recommendations on custom in-ear headphones let's do like a low medium and high or customs start at around four hundred ah ok so that would be low ma and there's this company with with a great name called 1964 ears perfect they didn't start at 1964 right then just they just like the number sure I just like that ever and they're really nice people I think they're in Florida and that's that's the entry-level medium medium gives us these guys I've been writing about in California called Noble and 0 ple they do custom and universals of all their miles which is most custom headphone companies only do custom but this company noble does all of their models they do universal fit and custom cool and they're terrific I just reviewed when you google that okay and then at the extreme high end there's Gerry Harvey audio JH audio Gerry Harvey invented the custom in-ear my head every band the freakin universe has those tears he he straight he was working for Van Halen and they were complaining about their stage manager the wedges and stuff maybe I figure out another way to do mama he's a guy an idea would put that in your ear yeah it really did he really did and how much can those be those can be at the at the top and twenty five hundred dollars damn I I said they are have made by hand or custom headphones or I could have to be made by human being right not robots no Nova and everyone is unique awesome they're bespoke I like that finally pham van Lowe says what are your thoughts on the next waves of Dolby Atmos and the DTS x80 worse either and how those speakers fire up what do you think about that it's going down you don't like it I think it's a really stupid idea it's okay for movie theaters but you know i'm reviewing one today so this damos is the dolby technologies bigger where they aim sound up and bounce it off the ceiling yeah i mean that the cool part of the technology is that instead of being like 5.1 or 7.1 it's called object enabled so it's not in a specific channel it's moving sound between speakers so we cool five speakers or eight speakers or 12 speakers it kind of moves things front to back up and down in in space in your room so that's good but most people want you know what the magic number is four speakers 11 they don't even want to speak they don't 12 speakers are one too many do you think we're there we're getting close to one where you're happy with it no so you always want 5.1 off for mood for movies now i'd be happy with to me personally but right now i think one is 12 min is this is one so so here's my thing right like i love having 5.1 in my my living room on gratulations your rare i know i love i have an onkyo you know anybody else has one I do yes okay people who are in them is if people don't want for seeing that um yeah I'm it maybe like ten percent ten to fifty percent of my friend really yeah which is not a lot it's still way more than it was like you know a lot of people but yeah they have it and a lot of them have like HT i beez but i think there's some good HTI bees out there I think onkyo makes a good energy idea they're almost gone onkyo the home tara boxes are almost right there on their way out right because they people have found bars right so mile thing is i had a recently replaced my onkyo receiver just wouldn't power up just one turn on i guess the fuse blew or whatever there doesn't seem to be a solution you can mix and match and that's not a problem your place deceiver receiver doesn't seem to be a solution yet where it's like you don't have to worry about five speakers and you don't think we'll ever get to the point where one sound bar is just gonna really deliver unbelievable thousand-year see that to the answer that's your answer what's up what's 10,000 years gonna look like one speaker just gonna look like all right that's gonna do it for us Steve here always a pleasure sir this was good thanks for me like not having cameras here it's not it feel more uninhibited it's always worried if I was looking the right now don't worry people want to look at you don't don't didn't want to look at you I can just watch a Steve Guttenberg moving and what about all your fancy t-shirts man people are missing out on that you just wanted to see your dressing down now cuz you're not on its right red yeah I guess so uh shoot us an email the 404 at cnet com we're here to answer anything you might want to talk about and then head over to the sub reddit reddit com / r / 240 for we are off next week because of the fourth of July holiday but we're back the week after that which I believe is what July tenth is one will be back have a fantastic holiday next week have a great weekend this weekend and we'll be back very soon until 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