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hey what's going on everybody guess wat it's Friday it's four-four time january twenty second is it snowing I don't know we're pre-recording is not that far in advance it's Wednesday in real time so yes it according to the weather report it's supposed to snow loads on Friday us out of an official weather com headline i believe it was loads you're so funny about weather com what in like weather underground I don't know whether under our nerve and whether on the ground okay so Weather Underground is like weather calms totally sane cousin we're like weather underground's like okay everyone just relax and weather calms like world ended well it's I think weather.com woke up to the idea of like clickbait oh my god then all man it's so funny you say that because the front door of weather com is like a goddamn oh your mongrel my god I haven't looked at the front page in a while mi Cara fying oh my god uh so like cuz they know people were just there for weather but what can we make them do to click another thing it's funny cuz like the tiles they have usually on the front door are really incendiary and like super scary and click baby yeah but like these aren't even that bad like the only thing that's here that's weird like I might weather.com right now why do I need to click on the latest about a missing two-year-old like this is lost in a storm was is is he or tornado so like that's a thing I guess this Elias is a weather storm Elias proves dangerous yeah that's always you did okay 222 people dying in a storm I mean it's sad it's sad but it does yeah I mean it's weird I also like the fact that they are really struggling to mix it up in terms of imagery yeah because all they have are just these in Eric math yeah it's the clouds and stuff on them like a few numbers I've been here and I tweeted a couple years ago or I had a grab something that was like it said something like 19 household item are killing you as you read this stuff like that really bad because the huge banner at the top is like prepare now colon and it's just like blizzard watch and that's terrifying like this it's like Drudge Report these huge graphics it's just and then you go to weather underground so I never heard of this site until you mentioned it and it's very peaceful and soothing yeah because Weather Underground lives in the real world things to know about the winter storm that will hit the mid atlantic northeast right and they're like what we know what we don't know how what we don't know is your day banner would you like some chamomile tea perhaps episode Russ we're here to just talk about the weather and get you the information you need without having to look at some missing too would you like to hear a story from dr. Jeff masters director of meteorology at The Weather Underground so the great irony and always using the great like weirdness is that they're the same company oh yeah that make sense so was Weather Underground bought by weather com I want to say that's the case here 100 I mean that's like PayPal buying venmo like you sure the similar products but obviously you have these different brands I think it makes sense yeah I like their little cute little logo it's cute yeah uh it's uh it's it's something that always gotta bugged me yeah and now I I'm glad we could use up to you I don't know why people why are you going to that I mean there's so many apps and stuff that will tell you what the weather is I i use the weather underground appt 0 which is uh very sane yes um so yeah I'm going skiing this weekend so I gotta get out of here how much snow has to happen before it can no longer be skied what that's there's infinite you can ski on any amount of snow right but at a certain point you can't get to the top like my god it right you know what I mean you are such a dumbass I've gone skiing before but pretty much only bunny slope stuff so and it's been a very long time but there is like a getting to the mountain presumably you could like hit of issues so too okay so two years ago two winters ago was one of the most significant snow fall winters we've had ever sir uh I usually go to killington I usually go to Vermont oh no no no okie moma big okemo guy uh I was up in killington to two winters ago in march of 2013 and there was so much snow that the lift they had to carve out like a path yes when you got off the lift okay because the the the actual like there was just like five feet of stir and so when your legs started would ordinarily like barely be touching the ground it was like you'd have to put your feet up oh no like they carved right right they carve that out which was I'd never seen and they actually like for you to get to the top of the trail it's like a bit of a hike right and that there was I and I'd never been to killington where it was a hundred percent open every single trail every single thing was open yeah that's when you know like hey there's a lot of snow this year it's very scary skiing it's not for me you move too fast they'll come at you a good skier so that's the thing like we like going fast yes is a part of skiing there don't have to go fast why you shouldn't even give me more pizza yeah let's french fries way more pizza okay pizza when you're supposed to portray could have a bedtime yes it's uh yeah it's all about carving right it's all about making that nags down the mountain you can do that on on a double black yeah you but it's what are you gonna get nailed from behind like that's no people in front of you have the right away so you have to wait for the jerk that's like pizza that's not a jerk move that's just like taking your time and a carbon on the map you know it's tough like skiing yes is inherently dangerous but as long as you stay somewhat in control and don't go super fast right you should be okay what happened to Sonny Bono that's not something you want to talk yeah I don't know I'd rather you keep it in your mind that you got tree skiing oh that's bad that's right that's hard okay dangerous yeah uh I want to say like seemingly overnight everybody started wearing helmets do you wear a helmet oh hell yeah of course without a doubt is doing gonna wear a helmet dylan aid scheme Dylan's actually going to the killington daycare oh that's great yeah you get a vacation he's gonna go to the daycare for like a week straight yeah you guys are just skiing you'll see them eventually one's gonna do daycare so it's gonna be cool that's great that's very nice yeah so we're excited about that little apres ski for the babies why not hell yeah live it up right I love it come back he's like already like couple beers deep sitting by the fire sounds more you guys will meet meet all these dudes inches so anyway there's that so that's the story about recording early you won't realize it because this show will still go up friday morning if you are going out in this northeastern wintry weather just be safe and I think we're gonna pivot into a real life discussion about Star Wars oh my god so here's the deal it's a Star Wars Episode 7 the force awakens here's the deal yeah I want to preempt this with like yeah we're gonna spoil stuff right now yeah we should go yeah it's been long enough and that's been long enough even I've seen it I have a kid I saw it yeah if you're if you're if you're really if you still haven't seen the force awakens we want to put a time on this we're gonna say this conversations gonna wrap in 10 months so see they want to skip it yeah skip ahead 10 minutes if you don't want to hear all right so we're about we're about like 815 into the show okay so maybe by 18 minutes or by 20 minutes God willing by 20 minutes like 20 minutes will be will be okay so here we go okay here's your point last chance turn it off right now okay that movie sucked now I'm kidding you did that you said before the show you said you did not like it I enjoyed it where did you see it and no bouken with the baby where was this way no so you left Stacey on the baby yeah so with the buddy okay yeah got it yeah so my buddy core you know get ya so when I when I saw the movie I was I was enjoying it sure how this school is fine yeah uh even went to bed that night happy okay woke up the next morning yeah and I was like oh I was hustled I just got hustled that was a hose job I mean it is very manipulative there's no question about it they definitely are playing on emotion through that entire movie so and maybe that's my biggest hang-up with it is that man why is that movie so much like a new hope it's so much like a new hope that it's almost insulting so this is my take on it and it's it's hard because I totally agree with that state and if i were to complain about anything it would absolutely be that is that it's so super familiar and you like know the plot beats before they even happen my take on which is crazy which is crazy but my take on it is the reason for it the rationale is that you want people to have these connections to characters that they've never met before and you're sort of kind of making these like subconscious mental connections like oh this characters like Luke Skywalker oh this characters like Han Solo etc but their new characters so they want people to like create these bonds with these characters very early on and so by not making it a very plot centric movie which it really is not appointment is so surface level yeah it's just the characters that are really supporting this entire movie I think it succeeds in what it was trying to do which was introduced you to those characters the other example of that is the first Star Trek movie that JJ Rose did the same exact thing no one remembers the villain from that movie or if you do you're like that feeling kind of sucked at least in Star Wars the villains at least a little bit interesting he's whining don't get me wrong Kyler runs a whiny little baby he was almost like my favorite part of the moment I liked him like he was entertaining and like like I like the fact I the one thing I did like so sorry I liked a lot of things but the thing that really stuck out to me is that you're dealing with all these same themes and same pot beats that we've seen before but they take certain things that you've seen for your entire life yeah like stormtroopers yeah but turn it so like the second I saw blood on the stormtrooper mask I was like holy yeah that that I that was cool that was very cool and they do that on like they like seeing a character like kylo Ren be like like throw a hissy fit like whale away at the computer happened never happened so they're really I think they're setting these expectations of like oh this is all familiar we've seen this before and then shifting it where it's like oh I you know I've never seen a whatever girl Jedi X so much ass etc right um I think that's that's the idea of course and again I I want to stress like yeah I'd like that movie yeah it was a lot of fun yeah and I think I don't think it's a life-changing movie I think it it felt safe in a lot of ways but it also was sort of a reboot essentially of the franchise which is like no it's cool to like this again you could have fun going Star Wars movies you don't have to like dread whatever trade politics yeah it's funny you brought up the blood part because I had the exact same react it's amazing we're like we're like I would say that moment is probably the best moment in the entire movie what was perfect because it it it and that happens right away it's very early and it also like marks him yeah and it's just the it was very clever because you've seen that scene that stormtroopers running out into a crowd they're shooting their blasters you've seen that you see the hero shooting at them they're like oh well they're falling over with us and then you see that and you're like wait what i see so i think that plays on so many different levels because that blood also explains like oh no stormtroopers aren't really like robots they're bright people right and up until well yeah I mean like the clone wars they try kin that I think the cartoon which I've never really watched but i'm sure they play that up more as well but you're right like they've never personified it and they also make a special note in this movie to say there's like clone stormtroopers yeah and then these are different so these are like a special forces right raised from childhood to be like soldiers and the right finish and his whole crew which would be a witch which I guess at the same time I also like it also rubbed me the wrong way cuz I'm like no these guys are robots why alms and they have like conferences and stuff like that guy's an aberration but and I like the other guy that like shows up he's like trainer yeah and he's pissed at him summer is like what you guys are they have emotions now but now they do just these guys because they're not clones the whole new order thing is so is really a first-order weird it's we they should so not see and like stupid and come on it's just very odd because they don't really explain what the state of the rest of the unit were like most of my day the new empire how bigger they like and at the end they go a planet-sized weapon they've got to have millions and millions of people it's ridiculous it is so we don't just do that overnight it's not something that some kind of takes decades to plan okay just a nerd out for a second what why do laser beams cause people to bleed yeah and not just like codify like right away yeah cauterize cauterize out of 5 that's not a freaking way it is a word but not not authorized yes why doesn't like instant cauterization although I guess you've seen like in surgery may be like that could cause someone like if you're doing eye surgery does that caused you to believe when they you do like laser eye surgery no it doesn't cuz you're not going where the Bloods at in the eye Oh gross you're just taking off that top I skin yeah I know is that your big complaint that essentially it's just a reboot the reboot the shield on the the vulnerable shield on the freaking surface of the Death Star oh yeah it's just like AB why are they always building these vulnerable things on the surface yeah it was very after the pendant that part with Oscar Isaac he's just like oh man you remember that first decimal this was like way big plus 100 days like that so ever again I my one worry right now even though I did really enjoy the movie all your points are valid but I like the movie my concern the next movie which we should mention just got delayed to December 2017 that's the next episode 8 which is when it should come out any there is a star where's movie that's coming up between then there's one coming out this year in 2016 really called Star Wars rogue 10 is that which is the first I think and the Star Wars stories or Star Wars anthology they have a name for it but essentially these are Star Wars movies that have nothing to do with this main arc of Luke Skywalker and it's bro so they'll probably talk about these people but Jim well not necessarily i think rogue one actually the plot of rogue one is that it focuses on getting the plans for the original Death Star so it's set before episode 4 between three and four and it's all it's like a heist movie about getting the plans for the death star so it's kind of interesting who's getting the plans these a ragtag crew so it's like guardians of the galaxy I it's unknown but that but that is the general plot is that it's focused on them getting does and all we know about that so far is that many Bothans died for that information Bothan what's a boffin there's a line in episode 4 where they say after the handover the plans to the original Death Star they're like many Bothans died for this information no one knows what the hell a botanist they look like really nobody has many finally get to find out who the boffins are ya and what if they decide to even honor that and I was like funny just do it what else disregarded that'll boffins line and a half or I was just gonna say my one fear with the main trilogy is that all of them are just gonna be like retellings of the old stories which is like Oh Kyle runs gonna wake up and realize oh it's not nice to be mean I'm gonna be nice now we're gonna work together to fight the big hologram dude you know there's no and just like retail to the Darth writer story where's my list below but who knows yet we'll have to see but uh but yeah like I said don't hate on me don't call me and be like oh if you're such a hater you have hate everything you do hit the movies not in the movie was ok you hated cloverfield and you hated start work that movie was just ok it was fun I had I'd give it a a minus mmm I give it a solid B minus C pause a minus it's getting a b-minus for me speaking of grading movies yeah no particular reason mr. jordan hoffman hey on the show februari 19th our pre-oscar it's like a month from howdy we're already teasing it well not like people really popular on the awesome i've known jordan for almost 10 years now he's great hey you know when he was on I started following on Twitter and yes just like a lot of phone on yeah he's great he's he's great for fun and he's a mom with Kenny he's like a major big deal on the Star Trek community key himself yes is he's a guy he's a guy what does that mean uh he is like the one of the main writers for Star Trek com he goes to conventions and like covers them and everyone knows him and wow it's like a thing so he hates Star Wars I know he like Star Wars 2 I don't realize you could be both yeah me neither alright I learned something new every day I also learned this week about Amazon's new replenishment service yeah this has been around for a while though so this was around in the form of a dash button they had like the things that had tied on them and you push it and it would just get you more tied so the idea was like you're basically like stuck that on to your washing machine yeah and then when you ran out of tide you click the button yeah the button automatically ordered and smart it's a good idea it's a good idea but like what's the stop you from just like hitting that button by accident i'm sure there's a fail-safe but how does that work regardless now they're like okay that was the test we're actually going to build that technology into a few products with some with some people we've teamed up with okay so they did it with like a printer okay that knows to order more ink no one uses printers anymore it seems like a add a touch sort of product to start out with they did it with they are doing it with the dish wash with a laundry machine that's going to order more detergent although how would the laundry machine right no you need more detergent you just put all of your determines there or is it just like oh you've done 40 washes that feels like oh yeah he's done me no then uh like an automated Purell dispenser we'll just like order more okay but that makes sense for like it from a corporate total standpoint and there's a few other things they're also going to introduce one that orders more battery when your automatic door lock is running low on them what the hell is an automatic door lock so that runs on batteries well there's like asome door lock that you know uses like bluetooth oh it's like a smart doral yeah yes smart lock I guess it never occurred to me that they would have battered they would need batteries but of course that makes sense yeah how do you expect the line yes I'd expect the lock to disengage I've never liked smart devices before and now I really don't like I don't know why are we calling it a smartlock if the dumbest thing kids might have seems like a dumbass lock anyway what yeah so we I did the story yesterday on cnet update if you want to go watch some entertaining internet video yeah go do that but uh yeah so this is just something that's starting to happen and it makes sense right like Amazon's device director Daniel excuse me Roush he you know we enter we talk to him about this whole thing okay did you talk to him now the guy who wrote this for see on it he goes he goes a little what's like what what's the deal with this why do this so the guy goes let's be honest this is not shopping that people love nobody wakes up in the morning is like man I can't wait to buy lingerie is gently right I mean why do this it's great for them and it's great for these companies like it's essentially guaranteed it's like you have a netflix subscription for your washing machine yeah so like ordinarily what people would do what I would do I run at a detergent I realize it the second i'm trying to do laundry i walk next door and pay extra at the bodega to buy like a tiny thing a detergent just to get it out of the way right rather than that we have detergent coming out on the regs and it's always coming from amazon's they're always getting a percentage of it like it makes sense from a business standpoint totally uh this is the world we are living and will be living in for a very long time very smart things where it's just like stuff that you do it's eliminating the yeah right like for me for the benefit of a mega-corporation of course but at the same time giving you back time and and probably a little bit of money be yes because like right battle enjoy you're not you're not saving money going next door no right like think about so I I used like this for me the biggest game changer for me aside from maybe something like uber yeah has been two things amazon prime sure and fresh direct yeah fresh tracks are big e fresh direct yeah has changed my life and I feel like oh well I think it's that's something that's more universal so like if you just know like oh I live 20 minutes away from a supermarket it's like a thing like you have to like make a problem whether you're walking or whether you're driving it's like a process that you don't necessarily want to deal with and getting rid of that necessity is a huge time such a big deal yeah like they don't have very good produce whenever i get for fresh direct though do you know what the lens on where you are totally disagree depends on where you are that's the thing they're getting at geographically yeah geographically like are you close to a good supermarket that they're pulling for sure it doesn't do that they have their own warehouse really yeah mm okay yeah because I found it to be very inconsistent well see we found it to be actually quite consistent because it makes sense why would they give you shitty looking produce when they know you could just complain get a refund like it's in their best interest to pick out quality protein yeah I guess I've just not right very good luck so far we did use Amazon's fresh direct competitor pantry I got a fresh fresh it's called fresh yeah how'd that work so we did it and actually liked like the food that came was nice and good my one complaint with it it shows up in these bags they're like huge tote bags it's not like fresh direct where it's like the cardboard boxes they're like tote bags and they're enormous and the idea is when you reorder more whatever amazonfresh you leave them outside they take the tote bags away and they leave you like replacement tote bags yeah we have no intention of ever using the thing anytime soon even though we liked it it just like it's a little more expensive than just going to the supermarket whatever these things are in our house and it took me like a good half hour of googling to be like can I just throw these away because they're not like why they're like good tote bags with like insulation why would you keep them I throw em one what did I live in an apartment i can't keep everything that come to the apartment i know you live like hoarders but some people but what yeah i know you have your treasures and you can't get rid of your treasure like these things are cool man how many pets are dead under in somewhere in your house thanks to 76 217 that's all know Jeff's apartments very nice thanks yeah that's those disingenuous um okay let's get switch gears back to entertainment news for just a second we got to talk about this new Suicide Squad trailer that debuted this weekend so Russ fresh dick is your interest in Suicide Squad yes do you have more of an interest lesser than interest or unchanged i would say slightly more than i did before really yes was that well let me start by saying that as we've talked about on the show before I think Batman vs Superman looks like a giant pile of dog yeah I think it looks absolutely awful a 90 just a never ever see it so ok I want to I want to circle back a second um this movie feels like it's leaning into this new kind of take on superhero movies which is very self-aware and very like fun and like light-hearted but also like Barry I guess not holding back I think one of the big issues with superhero movies is that the stakes feel kind of generally made up it's like aliens land or whatever it is yeah and so you have these characters they're very archetypal and strong man and whatever and they don't have a lot of depth um so here I don't know this looks just like a fun I I like the dirty what is it dirty dozen and like those sorts of movies yeah I like anti-heroes and like them being jerks and not wanting to help people but they sort of just have to rely on them obviously Expendables is a direct comparison but I would say so far the marketing for this movie the posters look really cool this trailer which uses Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody I thought they edited the song and it worked really well for the trailer personally I'm so much more engaged with what they're doing here then then bat members well it's not even close that goes without saying but I like I have no affinity apart from the Joker and maybe harley quinn i have no affinity for any of these characters so yeah so it's telling that i'm like kinda into it despite that that's like an accomplishment that they've pulled off I don't know how to feel about this movie ok the I've seen some cheese I don't I am NOT all in on the jared leto joke worth a uh yeah I know what you mean at least they're doing something different like that I think that's the problem there in is that they can't just repeat you know Technical Center Heath Ledger they need to like do something a little different I don't like the costume but I think the lines that he said in the trailer so far I don't know is the performance seems fine he's a good actor I just uh I yeah I just don't I just don't he is a good actor I like him as an actor I just don't know if I'm buying what he's selling ok um there's been a little bit of cheese that rubs me the wrong way and some of the trailers like what harley quinn at the end of the the new trailer something like well come on we're the bad guys yeah ok does no no i don't get me wrong this movie could end up being horrible like really bad and it's it's tough at least you can sniff it out with Batman vs Superman we're like oh no there's no hiding a lot of the facts they show so much dialogue in that trailer the bathroom and shower that like oh you can see just in the dialogue that it's gross and also the CG and all that stuff but this is mostly like action it's like a really well edited trailer in my opinion that you don't get any you don't know how whether it's written well you don't know any of that stuff I you know I have hopes but I'll absolutely one hundred percent wait for the reviews before going I mean look the biggest thing that we like to do is look at who's involved and DNA or the director of an writer of Suicide Squad I believe I mean this guy did fury he did outfit people like ferry people like for hit the training day I love a midi I'm sorry he wrote tree okay he wrote training name I'll under watch people people like end of watch I know I've not seen that movie ah sabotage I don't know about that film and then he also did the wrote the first Fast and the Furious okay I think he's got some good got some good writing credits so you know I could go either way it really could the real question is whether he had the ability to like push back so we're a movie like Fantastic Four went off the rails completely was apparently the studio just kept coming in to me like oh we got to get this guy in there we got to get this guy at bright and they bring in a lot of generally they'll bring in like rookie directors and that in Fantastic Four was the director of Chronicle because they know they can push them around this guy he's been working in the industry for you know about 20 years at this point almost 20 years so the hope is that he knows how to push back but who knows I mean it is a big movie for them I love like that's the thing like mmm can this guy stick up for himself it is weird like that's all it's almost like you have an empty shirt directing the movie right but like think about how inherently ridiculous that is where it's like it doesn't matter because you look at a movie like dress world which is directed by a very small director and it became no longer but it was the most the highest grossing movie ever it doesn't matter in a lot of cases obviously if something goes really wrong do but we don't know about the studio influence of that movie you would have met which movie a ver drastic world I think there was a lot I mean so do i but I'm saying like we don't know for sure I mean the second that there's that much money on the line you don't just like let go yeah all right well speaking with a lot of money on the line going back to bed member super me a quick so what do you think how do you think that's going to play out again like you and I clearly not very specific opinion about that movie yeah it probably will do okay though oh how do you financially how it'll do my own thing is like do you think they're in a situation where they go okay we gotta commit like is this gonna get like the Super Bowl thing like like I'm so in terms of marketing money oh they're gonna spend a shitload market I feel like you're pushing their foot on the gas pedal one hundred percent right because now the pot committed they're all in there like look this is either going to be because at a certain point unless it's a major like disaster scenario stinker if you spend enough money uh you'll make a lot can buy your money bomb because you look at a movie like like Jurassic world which was not critically acclaimed well because it wasn't a good no because it wasn't a good movie um still made a ton of money because the marketing was so all over the place and it had the elements that like people would be engaged was that what does this all say about us like don't you find something upsetting in the like I know it's low-hanging fruit but like don't you see some like great cosmic tragedy and all this where it's like it doesn't even rise all wars man yeah even with Star Wars cuz like Star Wars is so much bigger than just that movie sure it's this culture it's like it's like football you know what I mean like it is its own ecosystem that was like feeding off a lot of gnarly really slimy stuff and it's just as like perpetual marketing monster I mean that is business though that's what happens like yeah it is but after a while it's like not it's sort of like a religion you know where yeah I mean they transcend I know I know a lot of people in studios from a studio perspective sort of look at it like well these are paying the bills so we can do the piano sure or sun whatever they want to us I like that answer sure I hope that's right yeah I hope it's right for all of our sakes yeah speaking of the great art of moviemaking and something that's not really used anymore yeah in that process but used to be film Oh film Oh Phil I recently route well I watched the HBO series it's called Project greenlight yeah however that day min left leg right yeah exactly so they this past season they brought in some guy and he was like a real auteur and insisted on shooting on film and like large chunk of the series was like people going on me like it's gonna cost $300,000 your budget is like two million dollars really this is where you want to spend your money and there's like fights over it and they're taking him to like post production houses like look this is what digital looks like you can barely tell he's like I can tell yeah they uh I don't know man I don't think I could tell so there was a time yeah there's like a trends transitive sort of film head though totally it was like a transitive period of time when we were still like in limbo sure where I could tell for sure yeah yeah I cannot tell right totally okay I saw revenant in theaters and I saw hateful hateful eight was shot 70 millimeter film very fancy revenant was shot digitally with a brand new camera they both look astonishingly gorgeous and i could not like if i didn't know that before going in I wouldn't be able to say oh that's phone that's digital yeah it's gotten to the point where I mean and it's probably more limiting to shoot on phone because you I have to keep the cuts shorter i would imagine now and what about the weight of the camera why can you put oh my god it's the most inconvenient ridiculous yes right mention like oh hey light can't touch this right like if we screw up this mag yeah that whole real is done right yeah it's like when I was in school it was it was it was on the precipice of like this big change sure and as a freshman I shot on film as a senior I shot on mini DV yeah so it was great to see both don't make kids use like Sudan super8 & like the first year I personal Abbott now it's like an elective although you really should like understand your roots you're like you should get to know what it's like the cotton splice I guess because I think it adds more value and importance on the cut yeah because you can't just undo it right like eaters like I think it definitely makes you appreciate the cut more yeah but you could technically argue the same thing like oh you should learn typing on a con a typewriter no cuz you have to wait out that any day but that's that's what you're saying essentially no I don't know if I'm saying that no that's no that's not the same thing I'm not gonna let you get away with technology but but you hear what I'm saying i know i mean again I don't think it's not it's totally mandatory balak it's amazing I mean it is amazing because like just to think about the process that went into like cutting the Godfather I mean I presumably they had a little more modern stuff but like I think I'm sure it wasn't a dude with a razor it was probably like a machine that did try machine the kind of dish those real reals that look like yeah but I'm sure like I've I really do think at one point guys I'm like bring the hammer down yeah to the guillotine down yeah anyway uh yeah so that's crazy that's uh that's the thing I bring it up because I saw this on reddit in the explain it like I'm five subreddit and I was like yeah that's something I've always wondered about and the question was why did film have to start out in black and white why wasn't there you know a color right away what part of the technology was missing that was not allowing there to be color yes I know you mean because it's essentially like it's a it almost feels like you're doing extra work by like well its color right there in the world right you're turning in black and white what the hell it's kind of amazing when you think about it yeah but essentially if I were to guess I haven't read this through yet but if I were to guess I would say you know the idea of like color variation is like a very sensitive thing but just determining like lightness versus darkness is much more straightforward so it's a much narrower scope right you're really looking at I more or less so the highest voter reply here says that color film was actually extremely high-tech it took a lot of care trial and error and investment to get it to work right black and white film is a sheet sandwiching a layer of gelatin full of silver crystals these crystals darkened very quickly in a similar fashion to sunburn cool just like sunburn you don't get a variety of colors just different levels of darker than your normal skin sheriff color film is actually the same process but with several more layers of emulsions for each color so now you have a saying I think that is like quadruple layered okay but in order for it to work it has to be thin enough to go through the camera so all those layers in protective her layers are thinner than a human hair and that's the technology yeah that's pretty cool which which is pretty crazy they went from zero to color pretty quickly though they did like I guess I mean it was before where servoz obviously it was color but still like Wizard of Oz's what 1930 like 39 39 yeah yeah um well I guess video what so one was when were the first like movie pictures are you talking about when the first video was yeah well look at it like the twilight zone right twilight zone by like the third season they're doing video shooting on video yeah yeah so that you know I don't know I've gotta be like 50s right so yeah fifties sixties I want to know do you know how they colorized stuff on video and just in general no no me neither curious next I'm yeah hopefully lowing it up we'll add that and hopefully get to edit yeah the time we're ready to go next week yeah and then i also i fell into a deep red at home oh why does that happened yeah so i got started thinking about the history of credit cards cuz somebody put up a post talking about i saw that the old tiny it was like a metal car there's like a dog tag yeah that that a certain restaurant i guess it was sent someone yeah and it was like a letter is like a formal letter being like this is your card for use at all of our establishments we've opened a line of credit for you right but it only worked at a specific place right so presumably I'm reading here now but like presumably diners club was like oh here's like a dozen or whatever it is 50 restaurants that all agree to like run under the same credit system am i close yeah yeah you're nailing it and essentially it just evolved from there to the point where like oh I just stopped at restaurants and more and more and more people join these clubs and they became American Express in master garden yeah that's all it really was was just like banks coming together saying hey we're gonna basically you know allow people to open credit with us yeah I mean you look at like in nineteen 67 it was just starting to gain popularity yeah like in 1960 you couldn't just go anywhere and just sort of like buy something you had a like this doesn't really get into like how you would buy a big thing like how would you buy a refrigerator write a check would you write a check I guess you'd write a check for like thirty dollars or whatever forger to crawl with a little more would be my guest but maybe not that much more right like how did that all work yeah it's weird anyway yeah and basically use a bunch of banks coming together competing against each other saying oh no we're gonna offer more compatibility with more and that's what MasterCard got started but like for me it's all like I'm super curious about the technology and that's something this doesn't really get into um where it's like yeah for a really long time they were doing the carbon copy stuff yeah I guess that's how it started her and then when it went electronic then you had I mean think about how much credit fraud then was must have been when they're just using the the carbon culture is not like I feel like it must have been open since for just yeah various credit and I still travel like when it sometimes I'll travel outside the US and like they're still using like the carbon copy thing and that's are they really sometimes yeah it's crazy like what does that even do yeah nothing like some poor asshole at the end of the day I like collect all those in like right I'm i don't i'm like call someone be like okay I've got 4,500 transactions I need to go through right now with you seems like overkill right yeah it's weird man and I have you noticed like they're starting to ask you to put your credit card in the machine now do you have one of those chip cards so that so that's a new layer of security that yeah just was supposed to be apparently widespread by October of last year it's get it I mean I I'm seeing it more and more yeah like places like CVS and stuff definitely require it apparently it cuts down on a credit card fraud immensely yeah well because it's like a two-step verification and apparently Europe has been using it for much much longer and that's why almost all the credit card fraud in the world uses American cards because we've been so far behind right I'm a security standpoint so it's good it's a little bit of hay me as the machine buzzes at me whenever it wants me to put it on like settle down machine I'll do it I always liked the fact that when I went to Europe ah they would bring the credit card machine to you so like what they would do is you would put you have a meal yeah get ready to pay and when you're ready they would bring this like little you know said a European thing yeah yeah the Europe I don't remember ever that yeah her happiness is everywhere there they bring them to me literally everything yeah they bring the machine to you they would swipe your card and then you would like push buttons on this little keypad and you'd be w wouldn't tip them because that would be boorish is that is that like you don't well it i guess it's country to country but certain countries you don't tell it is a wheat tipping is a weird that's a whole other that's a whole other podcast all acts okay I'm gonna let you do your we're yeah oh my god in so long has been a while weird animal facts is here again weird animal facts um so pick one okay we've got one I pulled a couple of them but i'll save one for next week um they found a crocodile this probably happens a lot crocodiles haven't changed in forever right that's what they say crocodiles are exactly the same I for hundreds and millions of years hundreds of millions of years this this crocodile that they found was 130 million years ago they found this thing we what would it mean they found it on well I'm sorry the fossil that they found okay with it was like they're mostly ocean years old and it's mostly unchanged that's amazing except for this one is more than 30 feet long and three tons stop it a third that's like a bus that's like the Megalodon it's it's basically a school bus sized crocodile and that was pretty common back then animals were just giant because of the I think more oxygen-rich air animals just got really baby is that the reason that's one of the actual one of the many reasons there's that's not a thing yes yes were you reading this uh I remember it from school I feel like I'm having someone crazy talk to me okay I'm googling giant prehistoric animals it was like and why and why it was o rabbits Harris this is great okay the largest known prehistoric lagomorph which i believe is are like a rabbit type situation was a giant lagomorph it was a 50-pound rabbit how big how big is it though it doesn't I mean 50 pounds like three feet tall no it's like it's like a kangaroo size rabbit maybe like a wallaby side I just thought I'd owe me big yeah they grabbed very large right like there was mastodons and megalodons equalities like prehistoric animals that were just like dinosaurs those every nigga those are big yeah why were they so big because of the oxygen why did the good Lord make them so big back there haha you did a good job like them like at home how big their will learn more about giant animals on another time because I haven't done that research but this this crocodile that they found they just found it it is 30 feet long and three tons in weight was the operative word who knows no I've seen Jurassic Park who knows tomorrow they could i love new blah whatever it's gone isla new blue Isla Nublar Isla Nublar I would go there so like would it put that you know about Megalodon right yeah he was very big the shark rats sure can oh my god yeah he was pretty big like that thing I didn't even find enough food to sustain something that big like he would have to eat I mean whales alone like blue whales I can run around today not right around but yeah blue whales the biggest animals like really krill was enough that's it you're living off the algae you don't want any like major pro tip by some bacon me like I'm fine I gotta lose some weight I've been around for you think I live with this long just by uh you know this protein no I gotta pace myself they also really didn't try with that name today I'm back okay the blue whale blue he's blue he's blue any anything other and any other elements that are extraordinary about cloud blue barnacle whale blue hue just goddamn well you've ever seen yeah dude nice blue we got it Declan I won't have to eat like a community of seals yeah like an entire population yeah how do you say oh I guess if there's no fishing like he was it he was like a fishing he was like Japan back then yeah where Japan goes out and fishes all the whales in the sea that was Megalodon it's unbelievable yeah it's crazy yeah so chew on that this weekend fell down japan with your whale hunting no one needs it right and it's a bad look yeah well bud I think we've reached the end of this fine shell been a very focused yeah we were very organized yeah I was just about to know we're all over this today's what I was about to say uh yeah 866 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