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see my face how you feel good about yeah can we talk about March for a second sorry to jail sure sure Ross what everyone always says march in like a lion out like a lamb right is that April it's in like a lamb out like a lion no no you're wrong you're dead wrong yes because the lion represents the winter bad right exactly so in like a lion out like a lamb right right right yes we all agree on that stupid animal season MLG right but then it's april showers bring May flowers yeah so April starts shitty to know but the showers are still smooth like a shower I'm not scared of a shower yeah they're not roaring showers that's why it's like oh my lamb like shower yeah yeah sheepish shower okay understand it's the name of the show today okay so you got that you're all set so far it's been a pretty nice march though so I'm not it's not it's weird it's like 70 degrees outside yeah I don't know how to feel about that it's all Donald Trump's fault what uh feel pretty good about you have eyes don't you think it when you walk out yeah that's true uh well how you been man what you been up to I've been pretty good i've had the apartment to myself for the past month so a month is a long time yeah well it's actually been a month and a half and i still have another two more weeks to go so I've been kind of hold up in that apartment so surrounded by seamlessweb cardboard containers and you have a diver phone Pringles container and Lubriderm so you have you hurt yourself yeah yeah overdose overdose on everything that's too much yes sir that the back story is that uh PNE unfortunately lost your job that's a sad part worried on last month and she was doing accounting for a start-up and after that instead of you know doing what I think I or and everyone else would have done which is you know certain your ass or go on vacation be lazy for a while she decided to look into taking a boot camp class for data analysis see you guys have heard of like General Assembly insurance dare take a two month crash course in whatever um and whatever lessons you want it's like Barry's bootcamp for nerds exactly it's a yeah it's basically an adult internship and like pocket protectors and calculators pretty much yeah an incubator so she found one that was part of northeastern university and but it's actually in san jose okay and she's out there for you know two months to learn that stuff in which comes back hopefully she'll be able to get a job sort of like in an entry-level position but still more than what you would get if you didn't so anything and i think that's crazy this is so sort of like this uh it's almost like a she sleep is like a dorm situation no no no that's what I'm not bad to camp yeah there were Yuma to talk good all your food is solved make your bed is getting code Reds how many deductions can we make with that hahaha that's pretty good now well it's pretty tough I mean it's eight hours a day five days a week for two months and that's how they fit all the concepts in there yeah but it actually has a no problem and stuff way she sleeps at the end that's nice but it is really intense and coming from a job and not being in school for a while I sympathize with her toes I definitely don't have the study skills now or even before do I've done a class like that yeah um but anyway so she's gone and yeah I've just been keeping myself enjoying the privacy at home you guys live with your girlfriends could you imagine would you would I lives marry my son yeah he lives with his ex girl oh yeah it's our and then your fiance my field yeah that's right we're all getting hitched up yeah and you know I don't know what the future will hold I might I might be in a permanent cohabitation situation yeah in the next few years who knows with me not so this might be the last time I could really enjoy myself alone yeah I'd hate for her to come back and you just break up with her right yeah they joined this too much I've already booked in a change the locks don't know just new yeah where do you go so is last time I saw do you feel lonely um is it a bummer when I talk to her tell her that I feel now you know it we've been together for four years now and we've never spent more than even a month apart yeah I'm each other so there are times when it gets you know a little bit lonely the house at night and stuff but aside from that I feel like I've been a lot more social with my own friends sure because you know like having a girlfriend wife relationship is obviously very social all the time so normally when she's you know out with friends and she's here yeah I like to just spend time by myself like literally doing nothing listening to music or whatever yeah yes now when she's gone I kind of value those social times a little bit weird how i never thought i would love doing nothing so much yeah yes weird if I asked myself when I was a kid what do you wouldn't do nothing cuz they went out for a while you know someone asked me when I was six what do you want to be when you grew up it would be like hockey player or movie maker filmmaker yeah right and now 30 I'm almost 34 34 year old Jeff wants to talk to 60 jevon be like nah dude you just want to chill out take more naps you just want to sleep and what's not actually nothing what is your nothing at home i minus definitely listening to music yeah my nothing is actually pretty involved it's like playing a lot of games leading watching stuff laughing maybe like you know writing a little bit writing yeah it's like writing down some ideas some like we jotting down I just have like I I feel like you know I go through parts of my life where I get very creative okay and I think like the the sort of the wall I was in being so tired from being a new father and I feel like that's ended I have this like new renaissance of creativity that I'm embracing yeah and now I'm enjoying that you can journaling I've been journaling I've been sketching even though I'm not a terrific artist yeah you know I'm just letting my mind do things that I didn't allow to do for the last year okay is that weird do I sound like New Age weirdo Jeff yes little bear I ass big time I think so I gotta get home and clean the house yeah lets you have the biggest thing yeah and also the kitchen has been used for a month so thats collecting dust i got a wet so with it would have even watching stuff like are you watching movies and TV shows like what are you into you know i get caught because like you know for a while I kind of you know i would i would definitely tap you for some advice on pop culture or even non pop culture stuff hmm like what are you into now well I wanted to talk to you guys about this documentary that I watched called the 75 okay and I first heard about it because Joe Rogan had this guy Michael Dowd who's the subject of the documentary on his podcast and it basically talks about these dirty cops that worked in the 75th precinct in brooklyn in the 70s and 80s these guys maybe biggest hops were responsible for bringing in a huge majority of the crack cocaine that came into the city okay and of course you know obviously new york and in the area around there is bad with crack i'm seriously where it all came from I'm sorry if you hear the Giant Bomb guys if you want to know what the hell they're doing we're recording in a bar right now well no they're doing this like it's called Project beast and it's like they're playing the Kerbal this kerbal space program have you heard of that video game and there's no way you heard of that it sounds like fun yeah in there like they call these commissions and you know it's they get excited yeah so I'm sorry if that interrupted your very intimate story did i do wanna know so where were they getting the crack cocaine so they were getting it from South America importing it through the city were they like is literally going to South America like like Scarface style like picking it up and they were back but they made a relation they created this relationship with a local drug dealer that was sourcing it from I think the Dominican Republic on vehicles but this guy actually to get the drug dealer they're working with own six bodegas in East New York around flatbush a doubt they're just friends the story about how they hide you know they would go and pick up these drugs for ya and anyone could share if you wanted to buy crack you'd have to go to one of these bodegas and you'd walk all the way to back in there is a green door yeah in all these bodegas you knock twice and was it always grown how much you want yet that's good branding Yeah right it's it's fluid well I mean a bigger branding if it was weed I feel that would make more sense right maybe a white door right just crime grayish really gets great crystally white uh I feel like it looks like the fortress of solitude I also also also if I was in New York for the first time ever and wanted to get my hands on some crack I feel like I wouldn't organically walk into a bodega I be like yes a shady f in place I bet there's crack available and they're probably right and you'd ask the guy no I mean look if I'm a guy who smokes crack I'm probably doing whatever I want well I need to get like I would go to like a really bad neighborhood and start asking people see Holly and really poorly yeah but going to a bday again just being like hey so bad right ringing the bell like crack here bodegas in New York are definitely we're all this shady stuff goes yes I'm saying did I ever tell you guys about that bootleg cigarettes pot that I used to go to yes but I don't know if it was on air okay well I guess I'll tell you now yeah I want to hear it um I don't smoke a lot of cigarettes but every once in a while by pack or whatever little but yeah a little-little Jeff is doing uh I don't know what you're doing here is a cigarette I'm doing the scene in knocked up when ken Jeong is being her like do you smoke her and she's like no he's like not even like a little like me it's a cookie little better you every now and then yeah so anyway um back when I first moved into the city somebody told me that you can get cigarettes that are imported from other states like jersey from Jersey yeah basically or Delaware you know anywhere that's like five dollar packs and basically going to I want you to go into this one bodega on canals yeah and is so weird because when you walked in there was always a really young asian girl working the counter okay young as in like 10 or 11 oh that is weird right so you'd have to go up to her and you would say i want Pringles tangles was the code word understand the what if you really want to Pringles though you might have to go to a dega as all the wrinkles canisters contained cigarettes yeah and so yet you would go in and ask for Pringles and now's the code word should walk back also in the back room not a green damn yeah is always back Rushel what else is going on do you think they mahjong rings do you think that you sprinkles because like cigarettes once you pop you can't stop ah that's super lame and you deserve you know but no because this cigarette so they fit perfectly inside of one of those mini half containers really yes is that how you get them yeah so then shoujo a shock go into the background and you would tell her how many you want you'd say you know to Parliament boxes or 12 that will not what are you losing the terminology now and yeah all right we'll ask you to pray branch cream which was Parliament Pringles was just the introduction to two so that she would know that you want cigarettes be out so then you tell her what you want to come to go to the back and it should bring these little Pringles canisters out and each one would be filled with cigarette but they were Lucy's right oh yeah full pack but a Pringle I Minister is round but packs of cigarettes are wide enough to fit be but there's so much unused space this there yes it's really want d100 litter in the rest he's like a Nilla wafers box okay are any of you have a same way more cigarette a lot of Pringles because they had a lot empty container what about a box of cards right that was your car right I think that's too small it might be too small but then they got shut down probably for the singer I heard that the vast majority of cigarettes being sold in New York City are actually bootleg cigarettes yeah but they just sell them at the full price yeah only to get in from Canada that would make sense you can tell there's only so easy on the pot on the bottom of every pack of cigarettes is the biggest and a stamp they even had chinese cigarettes which were in st. like alarmingly cheap like you don't want to pay that little money but i also don't want to suit all right glass national chinese cigarettes fiberglass I don't not yeah but anyways getting back to these bodegas they would have six of them right in right movie and and that's where they would source the crack cocaine from at the amount of corruption that happened between the six guys was amazing so they were pulling down four thousand dollars a week okay in the 80s was a lot of money right these polymer and eventually the reason why this the guy that was leading it Michael loadout the reason why he got caught was because he stopped picking up his paychecks from the nypl what a dumb as they were what so little because there was so little compared to the amount of money that he was pulling in from is it 4,000 per person or the whole group per person okay yeah this was I billion dollars a year for the actual drug runners right operating that it honey not that's just a match yeah and he you know he had bought a Corvette but he was all right what a dumb cop salary doughnut but that's the thing is there's so much corruption and it went so high that you could do stuff like that yeah and get away with so how did he get caught he got caught because um there was a buddy call them um I the rat squad yeah exactly the Internal Affairs yeah came in and started suspecting in a boil up my butt yeah yeah but i really recommend this movie and you know the characters in this are amazing yeah super New York your stereotypical yeah you're not all we want to do this more gangster yeah he's a cop but you know it's it's relevant to based on a lot of stuff we're doing with police deployments now too yeah that's a great movie though I don't know if it's on netflix but you can definitely bottle 75 yeah the 75 all right we'll link to that in the show notes what's the shadiest shit you've ever you ever done like we're just getting stuff like that the whole story I'm fascinated by that kind of stuff yeah I mean there's stuff in my head that's what's racing through my head right now that I'm not gonna talk about right but I've just seen okay um I'll talk I'll talk about something yeah let me hear it this is not it's super shady but it's a little bit funny I think we've done this on the show before we've just a bit stuff we'd like literally this is like this ten years ago I really like yeah ok cool shit I was in Hawaii on spring break a friend of mine whoa I'm gonna tell you the whole story in Hawaii listen to a whole story and and you'll understand sort of a friend of mine in college was from Guam originally so they had family that moved to Hawaii Hawaii and Guam or like still six hours away from each other but hey there's not a lot going on in the Pacific so I guess that's pretty common yeah and so she said hey we can go stay with my family for the week and you know if you figure it out that you know the hotel is obviously the most expensive part of a trip so really was just a flight so kind of evened out with like a trip to whatever Jamaica or something close by so we're there and the first few nights we stayed in Oahu okay and on the and back into the trip we're going to going to Kauai which is like the more remote yeah forested island while we're on Oahu we thought we'd buy some weed because that's a reasonable thing to do you know and it's sort of a you know has a reputation for very good whatever it was that although it was extremely expensive as exactly as everything is in Hawaii but a weed in particular was very expensive that doesn't make sense too because you have to import vegetables and groceries but we you can grow in the island there no there's no reason for that to be so expect yeah that's bizarre that any was less Jesus grows outside to with the humidity yeah I don't know I don't know the logistics of it anyway was very expensive I guess I get away with that shirt and so we bought and then but we hadn't like used most of it by the time we had to go over to Kauai and you have to fly a quad there's no like boat or there might be a boat but we certainly didn't take one and so there was a moment we're like well do we toss it or do we fly with it oh god why was there even a question of whether or not you fly with it you won't you smoke the rest of it now you can't know this done no it wouldn't been fun it would have been a waste okay so a total backfire so we're all in line and two are my two friends from Guam decided okay there they were going to keep it on them they put it in a in a shampoo bottle how their matted in in plastic and put it in there and I'm waiting in line behind them in the security line and the bags are going through and they go through and the security guy walks up and he's like excuse me classier bag shit and the openers just you guys looking through looking through um is this yours a nail clipper yes and they're like oh you're gonna have to take that away and my heart nearly exploded it a little bit it was fine we got away how did they pick you over now then pick me they picked it because the nail clipper this other in the x-ray post-911 a nail clipper so who was she well i guess it was I mean that is I do not generally break the law yeah it certainly not when it comes to like post 9-11 SI ya regulations um that was definitely like a moment of pendulum you just well that I was really I would never recommend somebody fly with week but recently I was talking to somebody about doing that and they told me an insane way to that they smuggle it well one here yes I want to hear it so he told me the girls it's a pretty go to this young girl personnel bad advice don't horrible we're not doing it is not worry first of all if you don't have a license for you should be smoking anyway but that can wait two years they go everywhere right right just fold out he told me that one time he was flying from LA to New York and he lived in la ventana yeah and so what he did was ground a bunch of weed right okay he put the grounds inside tea bags right he like took out loose leaf tea from the bags you know had the box and everything work you know 20 or whatever bags inside took the t out replaced it with the ground weed right okay then re stapled those bags okay mmm this is like then is too much effort that is alright it's a lot of effort it but it gets crazier because he put those ba the the weed bags back into the tea bags there was still other real tea bags in there to coat sort of dating mark smell smart he didn't mark them and he's got a smoke at all nothing no really make children so and then for a little extra step because it would still smell it's an open box forever he went to a friend who worked at blockbuster this is how old the story okay at the time right and he brought this box to his friend and had them used a plastic sealer to reseal the tee box and then he wrapped the box as a present using wrapping patient is so in the unlikely scenario that he was at the airport and got stopped they would have to unwrap the package then open the box and then smell every single tea bag whichever state and he got away with this so since then he's been doing that same thing and just bought in one of those plastic shrink wrap marks which is genius good because those shrink-wrap machines can probably come in handy for other stuff too yeah sure if you're trying to rip people off by using things as brand new but regarding you sound like such criminal regardless that's a genius identity smart it's smart but at the same time it's like men man is it worth going but pots authentics let's judge that kid with a one-hitter in his pocket or you know I mean that's not that much money but it's sometimes difficult to get it right guess that you gotta really be desperate to do stuff like that though yeah and I think that's if you have bulk you know yeah I dress like that yeah that's what I'm saying not that we know the normal sort of vernacular you know this is all foreign is all Greek to us as we're concerned um all right but it doesn't matter in New York now anyway right because they decriminalized criminalize and I'm just we two I read the other day that uh they decriminalized public drinking and open alcohol containers too now they won't actually take you in finish get a ticket you just can't take images or maybe just a slap on the wrist I don't know by the same thing for public urination as well yeah and we'd so all that stuff how much that impacts like income for the city how much is that really hurting them oh it probably is significant uh I would imagine it's nowhere near significant as like how much uh they're losing from the yellow cabs like oh yeah they're losing yeah billions of dollars on I also think that law does not apply for you if you live outside of you know gender fried Brooklyn and Manhattan it's everywhere else they're still taking people to have a that's guaranteed yeah it's uh it's interesting I remember um my eye on a relative telling me a story about someone that worked for them and how like they thought they were gonna have to go to jail but they went up just getting like citation mm-hmm and it was like oh okay for an opener all know for pot okay yeah yeah I've seen people smoking joints on the street that's all that was passing a blunt yeah that's recently it's yeah but that's always been like on it yeah you go through any park now yeah why don't know because one of my friends was telling me that her buddy when she was with him one time outside of a bar got caught by an undercover cop smoking a one-hitter yeah and then he got taken to jail oh really a few years ago so i don'ti years as it did a lot has changed on us thanks Obama yeah she is judge cops based on like I always look for the gun to see what kind of cop they are like whether it's just a meter maid or like an actual cop yo it's not always easy to tell right it's subtle it is subtle because they all have a similar uniform and I feel like they should be more secure like there should be a better way to secure their guns like I don't say don't look very secure button yeah the button that closes the gun down only thing stopping yeah it seems like very out there I realize it doesn't happen very often where people just grab at guns but like I don't know fingerprint I always have that thought while I Triano biometric right don't we all have that that instinct when we look at a cop's gun to be like I should grab that I always have that like half second thought one like oh my god they're crazy do I yeah oh yeah like what would happen in I think it's you die yeah absolutely see if these scenarios you die have you guys seen any New York cops with um body cameras on you know I was Lee that's gonna start happening haven't seen that I haven't I think it's great yeah I'm great thing all for that totally so what's the worst thing you've done man yeah really I've just heard a lot of shady stuff and you've done like people admitting to killing JFK and you're not telling it just like a lot of you know stolen stuff you just hear stories about like I just have a lot of friends in construction that would like tell me stories about you know they would work until 4am and and then when they would leave job sites at 4am like people would like meet the hundreds of construction workers that get off and would like sell them electronics and stuff like that it's like really weird seems like a shadow economy whatever yeah that's what it is that's a lot of a lot i thought you're gonna say they like like Barry people in cement at the bottom of the boat no I don't know if that's the girl I don't know I don't know I mean we've all you ever found find anyone that the perfect crime it is pretty good there's that's shady I just i I'm I'm threatened by shady stuff but I also think it's it's fascinating what's it's exciting to think that there's so much stuff that's happening underneath the city right like there's this veneer of what we see it shiny stores oras but there's some working stuff that all happens in China it does man I've seen poker rings and stuff to you if you walk down into deep Chinatown a lot of times I'll just leave that door open you'll see like mahjong and gambling and stuff going on sure there's nothing shadier than mahjong oh yeah gambling man just heard every shady story from like you know casinos and queens and like yeah you know like private member like gentlemen clubs and so again I like shady thing is that you care about you know you're like why right you're like we what there's a little stuff you can organize there's a thing where you like get an email and you get a password somewhere and right show up at a place what and there's like stuff going on what is my stuffing another place is like better not vague at all wow it's right yeah thanks for a shady world all right I'm gonna let that once it yeah we're gonna take a break when we come back we're very lucky to live in New York right there's people in Wisconsin right now they're great oh oh there that wouldn't give yeah yeah we know it's good let's never leave for four or four on the other side see you in a sec Russ I see your face is as beautiful as it has ever been it really is gorgeous why you can't say that about your own face what can I say it's gorgeous I want to tell you away you can make it even more gorgeous I don't think that's possible but let me hear it because I look at your face and I'm like man my blood could use a close shave oh that's true i could disclose traitor so I and this is the truth and we're talking about Harry's I kind of resigned myself to the fact that I could never use a real blade again is there a real sensitive face indeed but I tried Harry's okay and I told him I said I'm like look you sponsor the show we appreciate it where you're gonna send me your plate and I'm gonna everywhere yes and I'm gonna break out like not try it okay and I tried it and I will not lie world-changing Manton change my world face changing but it definitely opened me up to the idea that you know I Jeff you can get away using a blade that is also affordable cool in addition to it being comfortable and it got me over my fear of face blade shave good for you ah look we're not gonna lie Harry's is the cheap alternative to conventional razor buying it's pretty great why would you want to 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Justin where you headed yeah so I wanted to talk to you guys about this on the air we were speaking in the break a little bit about it but I'm going to New Orleans in all of these Nalan know at the end of March so pretty soon a march 24th right and I'm going for my friend's bachelor party okay which doesn't seem relevant right now but if you enter the conversation talking about it is um so I want to ask you guys have you been to New Orleans not word you have any recommendations for me no insight I've been there I've been there I sound defeated what happened to you in New Orleans so I I don't like that city really I what'd she do with you Shh ladies Orleans I don't so my impressions from that city are based off of like being there in the summer right where it's a hundred and eleven s must be 193 hundred percent humidity yeah um it's a there's a lot of fun to be had in that city hmm I think I had a bad impression from it because of the heat and because this was like right after Katrina to so like that city was in bad shit fair to judge how soon after Katrina was it like a year and a half wow yeah that's pretty soon it was a it was rough yeah um but yeah like I have friends who went to Tulane that like love it yeah um you're gonna have a great time yeah well we have about eight guys are going it so that's been fun to plan out yeah but we found this one thing that sounded pretty cool I think we might actually do it so do you guys know a nutria are yes the giant rat so the jit neutral show you are doing this have you heard about what I'm but yeah we talked about this you're gonna do it so it shoot them okay so yeah basically New Orleans probably because of its Katrina has a really bad nutria problem which are which are overgrown rat overgrown giant rat they look sorta similar to those princess bride right monsters yeah cute like I've seen in there Harry they don't like us between a possum in a fox yeah get about the size of like a large dog sure sure so look I'm up nu t RI a and they become such a bad problem with pests and New Orleans that on there are places where you can go and pay a fee and they give you little pellet guns where I think maybe even 22 rifles and you go out on these hunting trips right because it's sanctioned by the city for you to kill these things these nutria and so you go out on these hunting packs and they take you underneath the catacombs of the city they take you to the sewer areas where they congregate and you just basically shoot these things all day there's a pellet gun enough to kill one of yes I think it might have been a 22 I forget what i read it was some kind of gun but it was a load of county big have to shoot them in the brain yeah so he have scopes on these guns but you know I thought it was a good idea it sounded like fun that the program got good reviews online from these people that done it yeah but then I looked online and they kind of were cute they're adorable they are Catholic free of Eden they don't have long rat tails or anything no it's they're almost like this one's licking an ice cream cone online yeah it's it's something that if I shot I I sort of that would feel bad and and yeah and I don't know anything I would feel bad and I feel like there's people listening that right now they're like oh my god don't do that yeah if it was a rodent if it was a legit New York Rowan I think they should bring this program to New York yeah we need more women there was a hit there are nimble the New York rats yeah yeah they carry pizza down there's things in the eye with the Pelican gratifying now you know what so are you doing this though I don't know I think we might check it out but who knows about sounds of a sec I'll come back and let you know I might be vegetarian after that you're gonna stay at the hotel that night in a bathtub with crime so cool where are you staying so we got an Airbnb cuz we have 88 dudes going so yeah I'm gonna be a pretty way to do it yeah yeah what else are you because the food is great the food is amazing there yeah supposedly uh you know the thing that people talk about all the times is seafood but in New Orleans last time when I went the best thing there that I a was these chocolate-covered pralines oh yeah caramel praline yeah whoo yo good i'm looking forward to that's nice you're gonna have a lot of fun down yeah I think it'll be a blast yeah meanwhile if anyone wants to recommend stuff for me to do you should email me yeah definitely that would be very nice and um you know it's affordable a place is like one of the last affordable places in the US yeah yeah so enjoy it live it up maybe I'll come back with the crawdad tattoo yeah thinking about doing crew Ted you might as well right might as well be cheap and there well I'll get the bride's name tattoos oh that's filthy Russell you seem to be staring at something that has caught your attention okay we're fine i was just a little distracted we've we've talked about this thing for a while and it's like a it's real now and you know yeah and it you know what I'm talking about yeah at the top thing on this list yeah I'm very upset well were you upset when they in it and I guess what can I do want to talk about the new Ghostbusters trailer yeah in the second yeah well but I guess we have to talk about this because we kind of just owe it to ourselves right we do Tim Burton has confirmed that there's gonna yeah there's going to be a beetle juice too oh yeah so there was originally as I understand it there was originally going to be a beetle juice too after the first movie was quite the success right and it was gonna be set in Hawaii I really Beetlejuice goes to Hawaii or something like that would he go to Hawaii like what like what based off the success and the ending of beetlejuice one where is the logical connection it's a very tropical island that's a very common you know like the the second brady bunch movie went to a tropical island oh my god how dare you I'm just saying you saw the second Brady Bunch Minh you're funny you saw the first one they're funny movies fine they're like as written by the same guy were at Adam's family they're funny movies anyway uh yes so it's happening and I guess I mean Michael Keaton is in our Keaton saanse right now so like he's bad it's amazing that so his highest was only like 11 years long that's pretty long I don't know if you're an in Hollywood I feel like that's 11 years of you're gone I said yeah that's not two movies they people do a movie every year he's still so hot he's been in back-to-back best picture yeah crazy uh and yeah he's on fire spotlight was great I just watched if they did like an old man batman with him that would be the best thing I would do can you imagine someone's talk ah that was someone not toggled man i was so how is tim burton not talking about and beyond yeah I don't know you could do the dark knight returns on it right right but I guess that's kind of what that meant i sold it man they have shots from that comic in the movie we don't talk about them now we just talk it's done I'm sorry we don't talk about Batman vs Superman was terrible when we hate it we what we don't talk about that movie on this pocket havin a bad thing to say about the trailers that have come out yay spoil the entire movie yeah but you in tombs day whether you think it's funny and exciting funny well whatever entertaining and exciting I'm absolutely gonna watch it just like you guys are yeah I got a money I'll pay money for I'm not gonna spend 15 hours be a mistress is not a joke no I the first move is so bad that Superman movie was terrible yeah I thought it was pretty good oh yeah I'm surprised you usually share the same sort of dark cynicism I don't know I mean it was a David s Goyer movie I bad could have been like I thought the the original Superman movie is what we're talking about right uh sac Snyder oh yeah yeah well no gory wrote it Snyder director no I'm pretty sure maybe Goyer and Snyder wrote it but I know Snyder was behind the script as well hmm well gory wrote this one right right or you're dead right this one yes that was the yeah I think it's gonna be decent I'm not look I'm not really really really looking forward to it but yeah yeah okay i'm also not into like the Civil War stuff so the weird thing I was very excited about Civil War and now in seeing the new newest trailer that just came out it seems that it's a much smaller battle like civil war in the comics was like hundreds of superheroes duking it out and now it looks just like a four run for and then spider-man shows up also what spider-man gonna do at this point like really he's gonna shoot some webs that's gonna be enough to take down Captain America like what he has no place in that battle iron man could shoot him in the face with a rocket you done and be done the is it like I think all this stuff is getting ruined for me yeah not that I dont still read comics I've never read more comics in my life to hear I'm reading I'm I seriously am juggling 15 comic books right now 15 series yeah I love them uh but none of them are really like super hero ii right they're all more grounded they're almost all there some of them are super out there okay but they're not super hero based okay um and I just I don't know I feel like the the saturation the oversaturation of all of these things like I've already lost count of like where we're at like I don't know I know iron man like iron man doesn't have his own movies in more so he's like in Captain America right is a civil war now spider-man's in there yeah it's it's all the webs of stories are getting really hard to follow like the I saw the announced in venom movie on that's gonna get its own spin-off yeah cuz they was that's not the heart of it you the general Marvel canon so that the spider-man will probably be different in that movie too it's hard to keep track Bears onesy an end to the others I and and there's a lot of like inconsistencies right so you have like Robert Downey jr. as that guy but now it's a different spider-man so they like honor the legacy of our DJ in your head we're having crazy soldiers yeah really distracted weird and and people just they lose their minds over it they think it's the greatest thing in the world I'm really curious how much money that the batman superman movie makes i'm really curious yeah is the buzz I don't know in general I don't seen it o people have seen it I don't know I haven't heard anything though no I haven't heard anything either but i would say in general having seen the trailers and it doesn't seem like the buzz is super positive for it and i'm wondering maybe that's just like the insular internet yeah speak or maybe so I don't know this is going to sound awful and I don't want anyone to lose money I don't want anyone to be out of a job but I almost feel like we're at the point for this to like self regulate and balance like we need to have a bomb well yeah I mean Fantastic Four was a bomb sir but like at the other baby still feel like people don't give a shit about fantastic for any yes that's true uh it's more of an uncle give a shit about Superman Batman and I feel like we just need a regulatory band that like constructs the balance yeah right like something needs to die yeah for like the rest of us to continue on with some semblance of sanity well and it would also sort of reboot things for the Ben Affleck Batman movie which I actually actually am excited about cuz he's a good director and like what he's directing a standalone Batman movie after this movie and he's Batman he's Batman what does he get why does he get to do all this talented he's a talented guy and handsome he's good actor I don't so just like benefits fine I don't dislike him I don't know if I love his buddy Matt Damon but I don't dislike Benna okay so what's the problem problem still stems from the fact that like he's mr. Hollywood why does mr. Hollywood get to be Batman also mmm i give it to someone else what you want to go being Batman I don't want someone ugly cuz Bruce Wayne's beautiful and it's a ladies man no I'm kidding III just I'm you know I'm saying like it's just the nature of these big franchises you can sign own face I don't know the dude we're in the spider-man costume in in civil war he's some new guy right yeah but you have to cast a young kid some people that he is we just don't because you also have this world because we're all my man's always like Tobey Maguire was not a person before Beckerman he was not a young did not exist well I think you guys watch uh this new beetle juice movie though are you gonna boycott that I mean I will wait and see but I'm very it's a password needle juice movie like if you told I am NOT gonna go blind why known as any right and Michael Keaton and I mean I'll I Nona why Owen with no no no no no not why not enjoy not one wait did they spell it the same no subsequent Furnival no no right who do ya dynamite like Winona Ryder rainy home eh Oh like that that I nineties yeah um but yeah like ah man man oh man i don't know how i feel about this yeah i don't know i'm gonna i'm gonna way cuz i always thought it was never gonna happen it's also been a long time since tim burton's done like a good movie no I bright a big bright eyes oh I heard that was not well received I enjoyed a great teacher yeah okay guys big eyes I thought it was very good so have a talked about what the story's gonna be or anything like that they had a script written right I don't know Tim Burton has told the I don't know who this is showbiz spy they are I guess a Hollywood blog uh he told them the film as a go and has been approved by Warner Brothers we have talked with the cast members we wanted for the film and they are all on board which includes Winona and Michael yeah what about albin I don't know he better be there we have the script in hand everything's in place and all we need to do is get ready and start filming uh what about what about legacy alive he's dead uh all really he died like uh two years ago I think that Jeffrey Jones is like oh yes he's not all you got has to Catherine O'Hara said she would do it what did he get a restaurant well I don't know and I hate I don't nothing bad right the big sexual thing will have children yeah is bad he i think it was like kiddie porn otter creek which is obviously terrible okay felt weak I loved him as Rooney and Ferris Bueller right yeah you know but if that's what he's involved in no thanks but but yeah boy we'll have to wait and see how the shakes out yeah I I guess all you can do is be optimistic all right we got talk about ghostbusters yeah uh here's I'm sort of I guess a little surprised by how much hate there was after people saw the trailer I didn't well think well here's why okay cuz it's not a good trailer I agree yeah i agree that it's not a good trailer and i said but I don't think it's like a universally badshah it's just like a blah trailer which maybe is why people were so pissed because there's so much expectation there yeah what do you think Justin I think that they're the the rhythm for some of the jokes was a little bit too spastic like that every two seconds it seemed like each actor was making a new joke and and the thing I liked about the original Ghostbusters was that even though all those actors are comedians it's not all of them but most of them are coming where they were yeah they were there any Hudson yeah yeah they weren't um they weren't telling jokes all the time you know not all those characters were funny right the time is really good that's a trailer issue though yeah yeah so I'm hoping that it's not gonna be like that where everyone just has to get their own little it was also not in slapstick e and this looked very yeah yeah for to me that's the big turn-off is that oh this is like a cartoony slap sticky ghost busters Brad right yeah i mean i like all those individual actresses yeah that's given me somehow and in the net how big is a very talented director funny guy right i I'm going to give it the benefit that say this is not a good representation you know trailers oftentimes don't write show you know I would love to see like a scene yeah I think that would be much more representative need to see a scene I think they just like yeah poop the bed on on the trailer it's hard to make a trailer trailer sure hard right in this movie have they announced any that's right I don't want to know no okay I mean she said something about like someone's turning ghost energy around in New York City whatever the hell I mean who cares like there wasn't really a villain except for well the ego no well in the first one was talk yeah this was my villain in the first one was they publish money no so I was sorry God chozer was guys goes to the ghazaryan yeah yeah yeah that's a good choice the form of the destruct dog I mean yeah like are we gonna get stuff like that yeah I don't know what it is about the first Ghostbusters and even the second one that kind of just works and I guess yeah I don't know it feels their first one feels very like we're all the characters are very grounded and like believable especially liked Ernie Hudson's character and and the concern that i had watching the trailer was that like they just went like hard and direction of like extremes because you could believe it or not like they really do and even though it's quick they do a good job at explaining who those three people are right away in the trailer yeah we're like yeah these guys like like like penguins like the worst scientist ever he's such a dick yeah he's been like playing it lazy his whole life yeah ray you know is just a paranoid due to a gullible but like means well and then you have Egon was like ever you know takes it super passionate and you know he's a realist and he's blunt and and I don't know like maybe that's what we get you get I don't know and I hate to like compare them directly but what else can you do it right exactly it's the same franchise yeah same story yeah I don't know yeah yeah hard to say hard to say I will wait and see on this one is though um so there's an apple event next week if you're into in two weeks if you're into apple what do they do for I don't know what is it do you know I have no idea cuz I don't care when do new phone new funds come out in the set September right yeah I don't know what this is for and the new iPad know that just happened the ipad pro came out what six months ago yeah I don't know the invitation says we're gonna loop you in well it says yeah cording to maybe they're building a foreigner iphone and an updated better among the new products to be announced but a 4-inch iphone yeah so like back to the little I guess they mentioned you but that's a usually the invitation is a clue right right maybe it's like a loophole in the FBI case right it must ask for it yeah that's okay okay we got new so yeah that's out in San Francisco on march 21st so go to Cena that calm and find out what you want to find out about that were I'm at the point where I just I see one of these things I'm like whatever and I want to get excited do you yeah I I like apple pie I do like Apple products but we're older do you think young people give a shit you think a 20 year old cares wait about a phone about apple's event on 21st yeah I think 20 year old yes yes I think okay yes and correct your other I think is their phones for more things than we do yeah I guess so they gotta get their snappy's in oh my god we are you on snapchat no I can't figure are you attached I I installed an account but I was like do I take I felt like the oldest man in the world that's how it would take a video yeah but we had a training seminar this we have chad is made doing that more so look out for snapchat had seen it on I've been doing it for a little while to be a flying it was that meeting it was bad it was a 16 year old girl like the person did you know the people doing it also maybe weren't the right people no no I think they're the right people they're the ones that knew the most about it for sure i just feel like i may be ready to him to grasp notes I kind of feel like I had a better grasp on that thing I think they overcomplicated it but that's because a lot of people were asking for very detailed like yours better that might have been able to figure out how do you profit on snapchat so it's very hard the people making money are like these amazing so like if you swipe all the way to the right there you see the curated content that comes from like 20 or so selected brains and those brands are able to monetize their stories that have other ads there's that oh I pre-roll and stuff on the OL like four pocket yeah they're just like you know you tap to move forward in a story yeah yeah one of the tab gotta come to an edge but those are invite only those yet 20 there's the very expressive spot share exclusive and unique Rosie's relationship yeah which so what did you snapped so far foreseen it oh just napping Arsenal I do just for me okay I care about social media so no I'm okay are you I'm not the worst I'm bad do you usually do the story or are you snapping to people I just do my story okay are you like if I snap to people its to like three people yeah and it's like the booger that just came out of Dylan's face yeah you know you gotta see this it looks like Italy I think the funny part about that meeting was that snapchats it's like a casual thing yeah like it's like basically explaining a joke at door spending like 10 minutes talking to somebody how they can like resize a sticker you know what I mean you're like how do I get the rainbow cue to come out of your mouth right but then like to talk about that for five minutes without breaking a smile it's kind of funny and then and I'll and I think snapchat is a terrible patien it's really not good sure but but it's so insanely popular because I feel like it is it resonates with certain kind of people like Stacy got really into it in the last six months and she does she's really active on it yeah and she's like using and she said why does this suck and I'm like it does right like it's not a good app and it's not it's not laid out logically um it kind of flies in the face of every like sort of fundamental app design language okay um everything you can do in it you have to figure out and we were trying to talk about like is that of design choice or they were like let's let people just figure this out or is it just like a lack of transparency and they're just like whatever yeah all but happened to work out where people just fell in love with it anyway and we've and I related to it related it to when you pick up the controller and start playing a game that you don't know how to play and it's like the same sort of feeling where you're like oh I just have to figure out how to do this right and maybe it's the same you can like use that analogy for for snapchat because that rapper has like he didn't controls like everything in snapchat for the most part like all the finite granular features and options none of that is laid out right it's right you have to figure exactly there's no tutorials no tutorial yeah there's nothing like that yeah texting and it's just like yeah here you go use like a sphinxes puzzle yeah basically I feel like we should have been having this conversation years ago maybe I'm sure young peoples have just gotten way more complicated than the last couple years I think it's it's a ball and by the time you mastered it'll be dead yeah maybe I don't know a lot of people a lot of eyeballs on I guess the one thing that I didn't know that I learned going in that meeting was that those stickers are some of the animated stuff that you could put on top of your face are temporary and those getting released every week yeah they should schedule every day yeah okay so my can see by them if you want something permanently I think you can buy some of them and I think yeah some like that yeah but that's not how they're making money I'm sure some idiot out there's buying a certain kind of emoji yeah ah or even paying to replay someone snapchat which if you do that come on you're you're a psychopath what uh what were you gonna say I was gonna say that this morning i was browsing instagram and I you guys look at memes on Instagram sure so following memes like I don't even give names on Instagram Daquan or you know whatever brown cardigan some people use to Instagram what do you just follow friends and they chose pictures of their family alright and what you notice yes I'm aware of me I an imager sure all the time yeah yeah yeah like that absolutely okay well anyway so I was looking at some meme accounts on its grandest morning and one of them had a link to uh they're like oh go check out the link of my profile for to download this app called spy cam okay and I don't know it obviously doesn't work because that'd be a huge loophole and privacy but they're claiming that this app and I should bring it up so I don't remember what the actual name of it was but it there was a field where you put in somebody's phone number and they're claiming that once you do that you can pay to access their camera front facing camera no look at whoever's doing it and also it's a keyboard lager as well so it'll try and read so i don't know like it but it the website seem legit I don't know if there maybe is just farming credit cards or people's personal information which it or what but it was asking I mean not legit as in like it works but just that someone had spent time to build this out so I'm wondering what the actual uh with the actual purpose of it is and why people are actually falling for it because if you know anything about the internet you said you fell for it there's no no I didn't actually sign up for do you have to pay that to get but that's the reason you sign up for it cuz you have to pay yeah and also there's no way that could be a real thing yes that's the more important yeah actor I don't know that sounded great here the world it's a change yeah all right that's I'm gonna call it a day sounds good is excellent having you here bud thanks buddy oh I'm talking to Justin your oh hey I was talking I contact well not really I was looking at my computer but I was talking us in thanks buddy did you haven't gotten past the shady talk in the first section yeah he's still looking at there yeah thanks for having uh working people follow you on the twitters i check me out on malice Brutus at Twitter you see are you active with that yeah yeah get more active lately or on that I basically just use it as a reminder for stuff to read later on what self what's your scientific mark I don't have a snapchat account yet i gotta make unforeseen I feel like the the big thing that stopped me from getting on is that none of my friends snap so who would I be snapping with me following like celebrities whoa memes on Instagram I do I could do that for ya I want to snap with you sure do you follow celebrities know or like anyone right now 24 friends in a few brands okay yeah yeah who wouldn't want to follow brands it's oh I fall like NHL snow sure dad is pretty cool yeah you gotta call it snappy snappy sees all right I'll get on and then you're gonna add me all right rock and roll that's gonna do it for us 866 44 cnet there were a few voicemails today but we just left i'm just have time for that I'll shoot us an email the 44 at cnet com we're back next week with brand new show until then thank you so much for tuning in I'm Jeff Beck I'm real rustic and I'm Justin you this has been before a four sho high-tech no prob dude always a pleasure alright rock and roll we'll see you next time you