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what's going on ladies gentlemen welcome to the 404 show on this Thursday November I guess it's the 19th who can keep to 20th you guess is the 19th it's still the 20th yeah all day did it who can possibly keep track of things like this during the Anarchy that that is our new studio installation but thank you for tuning into the show today my name is Jeff Bakalar I as akhtar where are you and somewhere else in Manhattan I am located on the upper west side today not on the eastside westside thanks for clearing that up and mr. Stephen beach him all the time bad let's go thanks so much for doing this again with us man yeah it's awesome dude happy to do we got so much great feedback when we were doing this a couple weeks ago thanks for filling in again and making this happen I have some updates on the studio we've been working three days straight trying to get this studio into place and it sounds like fingers crossed we'll be back in there tomorrow and we'll be able to do a brand new show out of the new new studio so that's excellent it's great there's so much crazy stuff happening in this office right now I can't even begin to explain it but thanks for bearing with us during this little bit of a down time and yeah we're going to be keeping the the Twitter's updated and let you guys know just what the hell's going on I like your background actually in your gas there the backyard you know there this is a nice this is from one of the new sort of floating offices in the in the new setup a little herb in New York City backdrop I thought would be appropriate so how to check that out I've been dying for that backdrop for like what 30 years now you finally got it congratulations Jeff this is as good as it gets this is how you know you've made it when you can look I'm get another building across the street from your sad sad conference room but yeah it's great the news the new office is actually kind of amazing and maybe we'll do like a video to show everyone all the ins and outs but let's just get into the show let's get into a few stories a lot of controversy in the world of uber this is uh this is kind of like a serious note that will start things off on so I as you sounded like you didn't know a lot of what was going on so so I want to help explain to you just what the hell is happening I know as far as I know there was like this one reporter that I guess like one of the New York Regional Managers or something they were trying to get information about this reporter and they didn't ask for permission and there's some kind of god mode or God view and that's as much as I know well what was it got a boat that's really cool um yeah so it's such a strange story so I guess the best way to describe it is a couple I want to say like a month ago uh this this writer Sarah Lacy came out with a story about the sort of weird misogynistic culture that she found to be the case with in uber and a little later there a meal Michael who's an executive at uber was at this very high-profile dinner and he jokingly but nevertheless he did say this he talked about you know possibly investigating journalists who were criticizing uber and he talked about like spending upwards of a million dollars to dig up dirt on these people sort of like well the door swings both ways sort of thing like I for an I sort of thing is the way came off that made all the news obviously because it was a very strange thing he claims he thought he was off the record I'm sorry dude you're at this like gigantic celebrity attended dinner that's being covered by the media what you say is going to come out nevertheless you fast forward a little bit and then news comes out that a BuzzFeed writer was meeting an uber New York general manager and the guy she was meeting was like she shows up at the meeting and the uber guys like hey I was tracking you I knew when you were going to get here it's like what and apparently what come came out all this is that within goober and they say at an executive level is this sort of backdoor all-seeing eye program called God view number one what the hell are you calling it God view for like that is you do not do there's nothing but nefarious associations that can be attached to something called God view right unless we're talking about a video game which is which were not this is real freakin life um and you know that really resonated negatively throughout the entire you know uh internet you're there have this ability to find out where you are where you're going where you are before the car comes to get you and I know this is a little you know sort of contradictory dealing with a company that's in the entire business model is based off of GPS location but at the same time it's just very strange and a lot of these things are just hitting at the same time and it's really kind of banging them up on a PR level for sure yeah they seem seriously screwed that's our nautical today about like rubriz got a real problem there's not like Facebook there's no Buy in there's nothing keeping you are I from saying i'm not using uber anymore I'm just gonna move to lift and then like I think Tom calm at this great articles is like seven real dead serious things that uber is done including like sabotaging lift by booking rides when Dad I'm canceling them and also poaching lyft drivers are like this is the this extra thing especially with God view which is just headline gold I mean you couldn't ask if you were a writer like God view that's perfect you guys are getting nailed to the wall for this one it's just like it's another religion pun no it wasn't oh god I said wall ball not cross oh god no no crosses here cross to bear that was it religious I was the theology major so anyway um I wore guy I was not um so the the other thing is like you take all of these things into consideration right you're like oh man you know Uber's like they're muscling you know innocent journalists they're talking a big game it's like they're in the mob right it's like they are a bunch of like Sopranos that are just sort of you know throwing their weight around a little bit I don't know I and at the same time I'm conflicted obviously because uber is a fantastic sir that's wait hey man it's the way the best thing this is this is my focus hold up hold on it you're talking to dude whose father has been in the new york city taxi cab industry for upwards of 30 years okay sounds like a girl and issues first of all it was like jeff has graphics it has everything to do with the fact that like my pet my father's livelihood is based off somewhat excuse me off the success of the cab industry which is being annihilated by uber well there's less competition yet I still use it all the time cuz it's way better than taking a new york city cab well have either you guys ever used lift have you tried that one yet once I've he slipped how was it I mean was it this it's basically the same thing as uber right it the app seen the little clunkier uh the driver did not know where we were which was way fun I always love it when the driver calls you like where are you it's like that's the whole freakin point if I had to tell you where I was I would have just called you but yeah that but I've had to happen with goober as well but then one left experience I had the driver was very confused and asked me how to get there like I don't freakin drive I don't know just just go we'll stop asking me that's like a lazy lyft driver lazy well like lyft definitely has that hippie mentality to it right like I associate hippies with like I'm sorry the whole pink mustache yeah i'm not doing in the pink mustaches it what's that should mean my nose confidence it's optional well look you look at it like this right you get into a car with a pink mustache and no matter what you're like all right I'm not getting murdered in here yeah like I think no matter what happens as long as this cars got a pink mustache on the front of it I'm gonna be relatively safe that's right you can identify that car like did you the car where you got hit in the head with a hammer actually I was uber that happened right and over but like it look oh by the way I had a pink mustache on it yeah kinda whittles it down right away like exactly check it out left over there they all got that blacked out toyota camry right they all drive the same exact car so it sort of falls into the ether but it's a really strange story uh but I don't know it's like like I said like I love uber so much i love the service and obviously like the problems they're facing our way up the food chain you know like the dude who drives you around it's not him or her you know you don't really have to like concentrate on them being part of the problem but uber definitively at a corporate level at an executive level needs a culture shift they need to change the way they at least say they operate like lie to me uber tell me you're not you know trying to spend a million dollars to dig up dirt on a journalist cuz cuz he or she wrote negatively about you that's I don't know you got anything to add to that I think leadership comes from up top and I've I've how do I artfully says I've been in places where if the leadership is shoddy it just it can affect everywhere so if they don't get their act together I think ubers just they're not going to survive I mean flat out there's enough competition and to come up with other ones other competent car services very simple at this point in uber has so much to freaking lose if they don't start firing people from the top I mean don't you think yellow cab is like working on a nap right now you know I mean there's gonna be competition in that whole space pretty soon I'm sure you're talking about New York City I'm talking about like yellow cab taxi cabs like if they just build an app that would you know that would cut into a lot of over Uber's business i'm sure you are one hundred percent correct mr. Beecham the problem it's true Beecham knows what's up the problem though and like I mean dude it took 10 years for credit cards to be accepted in cabs okay right and they're still bitch at you if you try to use a credit card that's my biggest complaint about taxis that mentality is changing just because they're not getting they're not getting pounded on the on the rates as much as they used to um but the problem is that because it's tied into the city of New York you know taxi business the very old school you know it's like this if I hate to keep using like this mafia oh you know analogy and not saying these guys are really white this is the most appropriate usage analogy it's probably correct true they're like there is the sort of myth it's this glacial pace of progress the second they do that someone's gonna lose their job like the guy who runs dispatch or whatever it is like there's unions there's all this really ugly red tape that has to be traversed in order for this to be injected into the workflow of New York City cabs I think there's something like 13,000 cabs in New York City to have them like you know undertaking this digitalization of the way we get cabs in New York would be a massive project you are hundreds and right no Beecham it absolutely should be the case like they should have this and uber would would feel it uber would I basically have to make a flat rate in New York to compete right because you're there luxuriating rates right now too right right based on based on priority of how busy it is during the day or something exactly opportunity not cool I don't well um I don't know I think that's actually I learned it like a rainstorm they raised the prices or something you know it's surge pricing pricing yeah they surge pricing is whack right i do understand like you know all of a sudden it's raining and umbrellas cost ten times what they cost when it's not raining that sort of thing but i think in terms of what the way they go at it it's like the supply and demand sort of thing and i get it like they can't just magically make more uber cars available on the road I'm kind of torn on the whole surge pricing thing but I definitely understand but I think the pure right though New York City has to figure out a way to get yellow cabs on it and once that happens you were going to be in good shape I think there's actually a bunch of apps are ready for that I looked it up just now when we were talking yeah but there's nothing is not exactly the same yeah you're right the other thing about like if you can get if you can hail a yellow cab like I want the cars that are nice inside an uber cars but I think like of ninety percent of them I've been in there really nicely taken care of ninety percent the yellow cabs I've been in have some kind of weird aroma then we cleaned up by a newspaper they don't want to smell not even it has been placed on top of whatever smells that's what exactly and this is the problem yeah it's a lot of people died in New York City cares if you like or no I'm kidding they just go to the bathroom and then it sucks I don't know what to tell you that's a big part of it too it's the whole experience my experience I think uber drivers seem to be way nicer than New York City capture I was in an uber car and they had small waters he had small bottles of water I was like oh god this is fantastic yeah it's like going to the bathroom at like a high-end hotel get the Beecham's are you like I have this precious resource what you'd like some water just a small bottle of water that's all you need it goes my way and even that Spotify stuff they're starting to do you heard about that right I don't know a lot about that but that would if I was a driver I would be annoyed by that because now I have someone else you know controlling what I'm gonna hear is that how it works yeah basically like if you can hail an uber ride that uh is that plays nice with like Bluetooth audio and you could sync up your Spotify playlist and and i'll be playing when you when it pulls up to you to you so that your music sorry playing so you could be like you can have some kind of music is basically all about killing car drivers that would be the playlist to have i'm gonna get in there with like death metal happened yeah drivers oh like half an hour like napalm death korps i'll be song i been sick and we're gonna have a four hour drive all right that's enough with the uber stuff i just felt like we that's it's a pretty major deal what's going on with them i'm glad we glad we chatted about that alright what else you have for us is you know so last time we've been talking about the Steve Jobs movie we talked about Christian Bale being in the movie then dropping out and they were Seth Rogen being in the movie and then maybe not in the movie there's news today out of the hollywood reporter saying the Steve Jobs movie is not happening at sony Sony was the company that was putting this together you know Sony they bring in movies like spider-man and other spider-man movies but they were they were going to have the Steve Jobs movie is supposed to happen everybody seems to be backing out but the studio is still shopping around the the rights to it Universal in a universal the makers of wolfman coming up pretty soon there's a fighter cross over man it's just the big universal should add steve jobs to its monsters like you got wolf man dracula a third guy who i'm forgetting and then steve jobs that's so offensive to the jobs estate i really know that's that's so crazy that they would drop that they're looking to get rid of the rights i don't understand lung it that's the third one sorry oh I could sleep tonight uh I don't write like why are you shopping around the rights I feel like even though the Ashton Kutcher one bombed I still think there's a lot of value in that property why you shopping it around well Aaron Sorkin still attached and then there was you got he's written the script that's the things being shopped around I mean is it's I guess Sony maybe they didn't want the amount of headache going into this because I wouldn't take the whole competition thing between Apple and Sony I don't think that's even playing into it over the years but to have this kind of thing the amount of scrutiny is going on there and about the amount of money that have to throw at the high budget actors I don't know if they can afford this considering how Sony's very very kind of on the edge when it comes to money don't you think yeah yeah you know it's it's interesting I think maybe you know I wonder if Sorkin's deal has anything to do with it like i Doan and this isn't like you know a fact but you always hear things like oh he's difficult right I wonder if like they we're at UH they butted heads on something I don't know this also the latest rumor two who's gonna play Steve Jobs is Michael Fassbender magneto from x-men is gonna be darker I'm okay with that no how's this American accent anybody heard Michael Fassbender's American accent let me look him up can't be worse freaking Charlie hunnam's oh my god okay you already been watching Sunday nur key again haven't you yeah it's good it's it's two nights ago is actually like one of the best episodes i think the series has ever had but man that dude he should have just been British like they should have had him be British kind of like my knowledge there's Fassbender yeah dude he's I think he'd be a perfect jobs he's intense and I think he could pull it off too but I don't know if it's gonna if it's gonna work out and if if universal is gonna go with it it just seems nuts but back two sons anarchy you remember how like you could have a British guy in there right you coulda just said they grew up in England and they just came back that would've been the end of it well there's a lot of Irish dudes right mm-hmm so it's like why not why not do you watch that show Beecham no not I haven't watched that one yet it's it's weird but yeah his the main character is the guy who's in a Pacific Rim you know that dude I haven't seen that movie either but you know using undeclared undeclared that's the first time I saw Michael Fassbender was in that picture right there oh really you don't so i don't really dumb but that makes it good because i like seeing a movie like of a Steve Jobs movie and someone I don't really know Bryce a more believable for me no I I totally agree if it was Christian Bale I just would have been like I wonder how I could see Christian Bale on that though he's a great actor yeah I could he is a great actor but the whole time I'd be like oh I wonder how they got that weird mole off his face for Steve Jobs like that's the whole time I would have been like all was his prosthetics EG what did they do what did they do and he doesn't act like to write he does yeah yes yeah sony backed off of that because it bales mole it was 22 unworkable clearly that was it it's a controversial mole book I mean come on it's got a mind of its own alright this is a crazy story about walmart getting jacked on a few clever shoppers who found a loophole with PlayStation 4 yeah so there's a bunch of stuff that's been going on online where people have been proud of going to walmart and getting the PlayStation 4 for like ninety dollars playstation 4 does not cost 90 bucks anywhere unless i guess you like you bought the parts and made it yourself and your sony right just having a sony centric episode but was going on was these people were taking and creating fake price listings on amazon.com showing that the playstation is being offered for 90 something dollars then they would print out the listing before amazon took it down and go to walmart where they said they would price match anything online so they would bring it in they'd show to people like oats taken down but that didn't seem to be an issue so a bunch of people proudly were showing off their 90th PlayStation fours what this has led walmart to do is they're not allowing price matching like this anymore cuz they're like we got screwed okay they all nodded liars they modified their price matching pair photoshopping with a photo shopping amazon prices is that what they were doing there was a couple of different ways yeah one of the ways one of the ways is just setting up your own fake listing and having like a company that looked like Amazon I think some people actually wrote like Amazon without one of the A's so just like Jean so like people looked real and it's not real or like they would try to present it as real at the time so yeah they've modified this thing may be restricted it to 30 competing retailers they have to be real can't make them up and you can have like you can still do price matching but this is why we can't have nice things to people no I hate super actually kind of I mean it's slimy for sure but I it's they didn't break the law right i mean amazon has it i wantam is it because amazon has a marketplace right is that and that's what these came from they came from them's on marketplace so you just fake listings right there fake listings within the amazon marketplace so yes they are fraudulent in many facets are they is it illegal it's a gray area it's I think it's really called fraud dude that's fraud like your demonic somebody good lawyer you're gonna get until I don't have I don't have my my degree in fraud or defrauding and I didn't really take a look at that kind of stuff but I'm pretty sure that's it's hilarious we're talking about DUI is the other day and you're like it's not a crime is it like it's a crime he's a criminal he's in the criminal yep okay all right so so so back up for a step because this is essentially what could have been the case too okay I I'm a bad dude right and I stole a box of ps4 is I got for ps4 is that came in a box fell off a truck in Chinatown right I put them up on amazon for a hundred dollars a pop I have the product I'm a I'm a seller on amazon now i am it now you guys are across the country and you know that walmart has a price match you don't know that the ones i'm selling on amazon are hot you go and you and you and your bio you price match ups for to walmart and you get it for a hundred dollars the the customer there the one that tries to price match they're not in the in the wrong this sounds like a law-school final questions like yeah you're right because what happens is the person show your work i think a long essay answers like with that person who didn't have any like any actual evil thoughts I'm just not using the proper language was at all they're not intentionally trying to defraud somebody right first guy Jeff the man who defrauded walmart that guy yeah he's in a world of trouble but the guy who would like just printed out cuz he thought it was real it's kind of like if you bought stolen goods it doesn't necessarily mean that you're evil if you have an idea that it's like oh well this PlayStation fell off a truck here you go for five bucks you might have an idea something's up right okay you are correct and I'm glad we deconstructed that now that I said it out loud it makes sense um I want to talk about this real quick a little complementary story about Amazon Marketplace selling but going through a little bit of personal controversy with amazon and i have not been public about it until this very moment because i thought i could solve it and we couldn't solve it so I have an amazon marketplace seller account that i would sell you know anything around the house that like I just didn't want any more gifts that I would get just you know I'd use it maybe like five times a year um my brother got a gift from one of his he tutors people and what he got a gift right and I tried to sell his this product that he had it was a mouse from Logitech didn't have the receipt whatever it was tried to sell it on amazon for him and two days later i got a message from amazon my seller account is suspended forever no questions asked turns out there's a lot of fraudulent activity in selling specifically logitech products now I did not do anything wrong I followed the instructions that I've always done when I'm selling something on amazon and they basically said hey the product you're trying to sell is fraudulent no questions asked you're done forever what's going on with that that's messed up that's all that sounds that sounds terrible so like logitech i guess i mean what do you think it is just there peripherals people are selling keyboards and logitech remotes like and why items are so i dug a little deeper it turns out they've had a history of fraudulent products being sold that's fine that doesn't make me the bad guy I have no I have a hundred percent feedback I've never had one issue not even a return never been a problem turns out they only and this is an unwritten law they have this thing that if you are selling logitech products you have to be an authorized reseller and if you're not they instantly flag that transaction as potentially fraudulent and suspended my account forever forever I can never sell anything again on Amazon couldn't you just get a new accounts under new name and everything but then I then I'm sounds like you know after our previous conversation on the bad guy if I do that well you lost you'll lose all your feedback right you'd lose everything positive about that old account yeah but like do so much work to avoid having logitech stuff I mean now I learned my lesson the hard way I just can't sell logitech stuff even though on the product page on amazon it says in the in this nice shiny button on the right side sell yours here so did you ever talk did you get to talk to someone at at amazon like an actual person so I did oh my god i did five half hour to hour long calls and none of them were ever ever resolved it was owing than just see you as the enemy or something yeah they're just like you're a scumbag didn't say this but they're like like you're just a scumbag trying to get away pulling a fast one on us and it was and I was always super super civil very polite never once raised my voice but the fifth call I was like listen what you're doing is really screwed up but yeah there's like no way around it and I guess I could create another account may be under like you know Stacy's name whoever it is but I don't know it's so insane what happened I and i try i even i tried to get i had a friend who used to work there and he said it's a dead end I don't know that's crazy so I didn't even know amazon is kind of like a craigslist kind of thing huh i never use that before really i mean at you you will you've never liked bought something through like the new and used link on an amazon product page i don't i don't think i have but i don't i didn't know that you could sell anything like I thought like you could sell music or so you know products like that but I didn't know you could just sell like you know like something like you would on craigslist yeah if any if amazon has a product page for the product you want to sell odds are you can sell it and and you can have like an individual seller account which is what i did a very infrequent transactions i like i said maybe five a year um you know it's it's insanity but anyone can sell anything as long as you're not Jeff Bakalar remember that that is a good luck well you know what I learned you know what I learned real quick they're still ebay ladies and gentlemen it works really well so yeah I didn't take that down yeah it's still wrapped even after the prom boom pretty much sell anything on ebay besides human organs yes and even that was exactly yeah and that's and that's still a gray area all right we might have room for one more story here what do we got let's talk about this crazy artist this guy he plans to wear an oculus rift virtual reality headset for 28 days straight the idea he's just wants to do an experiment it's really odd thing he's to it his name is Mark for Reed he's gonna have some handlers helping him to get to this man in bathroom he says gonna wear constant he's gonna shower with it he's gonna go to the toilet with the thing on he's gonna eat with the thing on um that's gonna be that was Mellie VR headset that was enough for me bro what the why why would you do this I don't understand the point of this like how bad is your life have to be they like look for the month I'm not gonna be here just pop this on I mean is it I uh I kind of get what he's trying to say like I get the art that he's trying to make and he's trying to say like this is the dystopian future we're all headed towards right enough to feed you look at this yeah look him he's like a goddamn key oh man that's pathetic but like so what is he looking at though uh it's gonna be some footage that is not supposed to be out of the ordinary there's gonna be a person that Farid is never met who's on the capture audio and video and the sounds gonna be played back on the guys headset so he's call this this man the other person the other so whatever that other person sees Farid is going to see so if some if the guys going to it like the examples if you're going to bike ride a funeral a bad movie or even a bathroom farid gonna see it so he's actually entering like the John Malkovich portal right except hell control right right so oh that's super weird man but I you know as crazy as it sounds and people are gonna be like how is Jeff defending this asshole no it's he's trying to like say that we will eventually be so uninterested in living our own lives and want to be sort of like you know uh transported vicariously into someone else's life Ike I think that's what he's saying right here's the hear the request for the other so the person whose life is gonna live like days later cause you're gonna get that he's gonna get this footage it's gonna be played back in this and his VR headset later he's got specification for the other the other has to be a male he's got to be heterosexual and in a relationship this is the straight male parts because buried is a straight male and he doesn't want to quote complicate things Oh Patricia part is sabrina has a narrative of what's happening man relationship is more likely say aloud that he's going out to buy milk then one who lives alone for example so he's gonna have some idea of what he's about to watch I'm assuming but man this is this is intriguing there's gonna there's a Kickstarter for this as well for the documentary of somebody recording what's happening to this guy is this I'm just helping pay for this gotta do this documentary fine but I'm not paying for free that's crazy for farad like I see the thing is just like if the guy if the other why can't tell right now is if the other drinks milk does he have to do it too or like why okay screw that like yes you bring up a very interesting question but like dude for a month he's essentially going to give himself brain damage totally also I think he's gonna damage his eyes too I mean yes that's gonna hurt your eyes big time yes he's gonna he's gonna screw up his and like he might do irreparable damage to like his coordination like he might have to learn how to do things again a month that's a long time is a long as time I've this day you're right after look like just think about when you've been on a roller coaster when this be our roller coasters when you come out you're a little bit wobbly it was like three minutes oh my dude he's gonna puke he's gonna puke no i'm not a dude unless you want to bet he's not gonna make it 28 days who's gonna drop some don't like to two weeks probably i give them teeth 28 d ambitious man what am I got a scratch do you go up and under can you dizzy Lizzy allowed to do that I don't know the all the rules yeah the least of his problems if you had a rash all of a sudden up here you've been sweating and it's been pressed against your face for so long and how do you shower with this thing I mean it's not waterproof I I don't even care about those details I want any else I want to be the want to be the first due to interview this guy the second the mask comes off after the twentieth day fuck it then where's the dude we're really question let's find out I'm always okay as you London yeah uk-based yeah there you go somewhere he's gonna let sees living space will be on display in London you're right he's a party animal in a zoo the whole time too we should skype with him on a four hour hold on the show well no we gotta skype with his other first that's what we gotta do the others gotta show up its are like days later he knows he's on a podcast how is the other gonna broadcast what he's doing to mark like how I won't is young report stuff and then they're just gonna Jack it into marks face yes is the others experience will be filmed days in advance that converted for use with the oculus rift that's what's gonna happen I'm sure I'm sure those uh those oculus dudes are like yeah this is exactly what we had in mind thanks the others gonna be wearing a camera on his glasses so basically it's like somebody's like interfacing with a google glass with a VR headset yeah I'm sure Facebook super psyched yeah I'm like awesome yeah this is exactly what we bought oculus for you're exactly right um some dick in London to totally exploit the whole thing oh man i put this crazy shit fascinating it's called luck to you I I the letter I all right good luck to you and hopefully the damage you do is not permanent all I have to say um all right i think that's that's it i think we got a show today dudes no nuh-uh you can call us 866 404 seen it odds are we won't be able to listen to that on the air tomorrow but hey still do it follow us on Facebook Instagram Twitter and then join the sub reddit reddit com / r / the 404 steven Beecham ladies and gentlemen thank you so much buddy thank you man was fun let's try and do this as much as we can I know it's gonna change when we get our studio but it's always a pleasure buddy is thank you sir you're welcome alright thanks for I'm sure what were you doing that we like disturbed you so you could pop on the show here you know what I was doing was I was dealing with not having a real computer cuz at a chromebook and I was freaking out like I'm gonna do skype on a Chromebook like oh yeah no you can't so I like hook up I don't like use an old machine I'd laying around so it didn't die all right your data excellent alright that's going to do it for us guys I get in touch with the show sent us an email the 44 at CNN com and hopefully fingers crossed we're back here tomorrow if something changes will let you know on Twitter until next time I'm Jeff Bakalar Amaya's actor and that man over there in SF is seen to be sure see you guys you