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Williams why is it the owner of the old amusement park oh my god he just carries a bunch of chains around with him yeah that's just how he rolls how you doing man I'm lovely I'm good you're lovely you're good I'm good also now to myself because you know Russ there's a lot of awfulness in the world these days there is both home and abroad yeah and you know I won't lie I found myself in a funk bit of a funk okay you know when you have a kid you and I don't want to sound like a damn cliche but you know you look at this kid and he's just like represents innocence in the future and maybe not to me when I see him I just see something some living thing that doesn't understand how awful this place can be yeah and it's not their fault they don't know any better that's true so you know every now and then I get a little bummed out okay doesn't happen too often very sad but then I came across a YouTube video mhm and this you looking into your children's a child's eyes was not enough to pull you out of this funk a YouTube video hello it was 8:45 at night okay he had been sleeping understand for me to go and look into his eyes hold his eyes open now I don't weird would have been mean yeah would've woken up would have cause both of us a great deal of grief indeed so it's 8:45 at night and I stumble across a YouTube video that turned it all around for me and I know this isn't gonna do anything for people who are listening at home this is not an like you can't hear this and get the same experience we're gonna have to explain what's happening in this music video a music video for when the going gets tough the tough get going by Billy ocean okay this is not this is a very popular song from 1989 okay it doesn't spring to mind as a song I no interest in hearing you'll know you'll know the chorus I'm just gonna start it if you want to get right down to it I'll put this link in the show notes just fast forward on YouTube to about 50 seconds into the video when they reveal who the backup dancers in this video are okay again little context it's 1989 think of the celebrities from that era I'm guessing Chicago Bears well look that would be my guess but think about what this video would have to do to bring me up out of the Gulf gesture they go very far away dude the Bears wouldn't do that for me so we're gonna play a little of this video and I want Rus to kind of like give out his organic reaction because I know what's coming okay all right let's let's let's join this video in progress okay so there's a nice backing horn section Joey's croonin and an awesome oversized overcoat there's the backup dancers just the peak of them bottom left oh ok they're wearing all white it seems this three of them oh my god so there's Michael Douglas and what's-her-name from Cheers I believe and Danny DeVito no it's that Kirstie I know who is it on the Left that's Kathleen Turner a clean Turner Danny DeVito and Michael Douglas as backup dancers from in full white suits full white tuxedo you could give me 1000 guesses I know never ever would have gotten that there is something about a lego and they have choreography and they're all timed up I mean realistically they probably only need to learn one step at a time because they're really cutting away from them a lot but it's amazing so this is like how have I never seen this before is the mother French so this is what's amazing is like the three of them are perfectly choreographed like you said the song is great if you recall this song so I'm so good at to Katoon they're so enthusiastic about it like they could not be happier to be there Danny DeVito makes the most sense out of all these people in terms of like people in attendance like I get Danny DeVito being there this so this is like Romancing the Stone Roses got it got it got it now I don't know like so 89 probably was I guess War of the Roses right yeah I've never seen that movie but that's not a light movie right that's a but it's like a dark comedy okay it is it's like a big cult it's described as like a black huh and was Danny DeVito in that as well yeah any drunk directed yeah this is saying he co-directed it so this now what are we seeing so Danny DeVito his plant fake playing the saxophone riff Billy Idol as Billy Idol no Billy ocean Billy ocean it's hard it's gesturing with his his hips towards the saxophone is as tall as Danny Jo oh yeah it might not have been an oversized sax it might have been a normal-sized sax and Danny DeVito just makes everything look giant it's amazing do you see where I'm coming from yeah it's spectacular watching this video just makes me happy it's really yeah it's great I'm real I am happy as well and like could we just like as like a propaganda tool just like drop these videos on Syria and just maybe that would like end the conflict right there this video then there's no hope yeah it is such a feel even Douglas is like bringing his a game like looking right into the camera with like full gusto there's something about it I can't encourage you people enough to go and watch this video it is such a good feeling awesome time I'll bet they had a percentage on the on the back end with the sales of those maybe but like and is it in the mood isn't in the soundtrack I don't know I don't even think it is cuz that would make a little more sense I would but they three of them they were you know they've been in these movies together and this was 89 so it had to be War of the Roses yeah and they're I feel like they were just like hey we're all buddies now day we love Billy ocean yeah let's just like show up in his video really bizarre cuz I'm not like a moving experience it really was delightful it just made me so happy so there's my feel-good YouTube video of maybe not the month maybe the year maybe of 2015 yeah I've not I can't think of a single YouTube video that felt made me feel that good well that like did that to you Yeah right yes it's super special I fo I'm glad and thank you for letting me share it with you thank you for sharing it alright um we got a few things I want to get into you today not whole lot of stuff going on that's pretty quiet in the tech world pretty quiet in the tech world but there's still plenty of things that we can talk about yeah oh man did I have a thing happened last night what happened this is the same moment that you watch this YouTube video yeah okay yeah the YouTube views a couple days ago got it uh but I had am like have you ever had something really weird happened to you in the middle of the night that when it happens in the middle of the night yeah there's like no lot like cohesive lucid logic to explain it it it's only till the next morning were like if you even go back to sleeve sure you could then assess it with a clear mind yeah actually yeah recently my shower curtain rod fell in the middle of the night see that's weird it just fell yeah well it's like a suspension rod it's I guess I don't know what that it's pressing against the wall yeah so that's a suspension rod we're locked down with the shower rod lingo I apologize obviously we're you know the things could just happen yeah I had a weird ball okay and this is more along the lines of tech it is a long line okay and I need to I I think after this story it will perhaps awaken a story from your past that you can then retell sure um I it's 5:00 a.m. and I'm woken up to very loud talking of like like podcasts sounding talking got it not unlike what everyone is listening to right now whoa heavy and it was it was a conversation it was like a very sort of passionate conversation but you only heard the bass you weren't able to like make out the conversation no I could tell it was people talking I just couldn't you know I'm like woken up so I jump out of bed the dog knows something's going on to you so he jumps out of the bed and he darts in the living space is still sleeping she's she's - she's out she's that so I get up I'm like what the what is going on right now yeah I'm like kind of losing it sure so I go in the living room and I look around and like it's still pitch-black out okay so I can't see a lot of stuff it's just before the sons getting ready to write oh you like closing in on like the source I'm right there okay and it's the coffee table why is the coffee table speaking like that I gotta imagine an iPad maybe but but okay so so am i my living room at night is like a planetarium there's all these little lights everywhere sure I got so much electronic everywhere though yeah things are constantly glowing and buzzing and whatnot so I figure it out it's my laptop okay somehow my laptop while closed yeah awoken and started playing started playing audio isn't that freaking crazy ants really bizarre and terrifying to the point where like I open up the laptop and just like hard shut it down like let me kill this animal before it can hurt it wasn't there a Stephen King story I think was called Maximum Overdrive or all the machines came alive and killed people yeah that sounds about right and that's basically step one as well at 5:00 and ringing you up early at 5:00 in the morning you you you sort of display this sense of vulnerability where you're like I just need to go back to bay that logic is not prevailing at that moment I have to I have to get rid of whatever this is and sleep yeah that was scary if really freaked me out think about how bizarre that is even fathom how that could happen how could that have happened it could be an alarm on the computer it was a Windows machine I don't yeah so you don't know what the hell happened I mean my desktop at home turns on like I put in sleep mode will not ever stay ever very consistently it will wake up I mean it goes to sleep and then like a half hour later or three hours later or something like that it'll wake up there's things you can do to like sort of uh yeah I have a figured I just turned it off yeah you should probably should um but that's weird it's really these are if you ever had something similar to that like you know yeah I mean there's like the moments actually I got a what is it a what's the clapper stop it I so so this is like ten years ago you mean 35 years ten years ago and in the apartment I was in at the time the bed was very far away from the light switch so I'd be like reading in bed and then I want to turn off the light and I'd have to get up you ever hear of a desk lamp there wasn't only a place to put it that slam oh you're gonna say I'm in bed what are we gonna be like oh there wasn't any nightstand lamps when I was 10 years ago no I don't appreciate the impression either so I like figured oh I'll get a clapper but I don't want to like clap so I got a room there's like a remote version of the clapper where you have like a remote yeah plugs into an outlet and that's the outlet that controls the light so it effectively servants the outlet the remote just basically like turns the outlet yeah yeah and it was ten bucks so it's like great apparently for 10 bucks what you get is a really shitty outlet controller because frequently at 4:30 in the morning all the lights in the room would turn on like super bright and it was very startling that's the worst it's terrible so I had to like basically toss it it was a waste but but so that's the extent of your tech yeah I'm hamster crawl on me once while I was sleeping that was but that's not really tech really no but that's there was a case failure involved a hamster case failed and he figured it out and he it cracked that code he was in one of those to be situations he just had like a mini hamster stethoscope up to the block and figured out the right combination and I guess his predilection was to run across the room and just jump on me in the bed whether he was trying to like make a move or whether it was trying to take me out it's hard to say but I mean it could have ended really bad for him I could have just rolled over and crushed him like that not a big guy but she would be enough yeah so yeah he broke out and then several weeks later he broke out again and and jumped to his death so drank oh my god super dragon that's what he was going for the hole might have been so I have a weird thing with lights to my might live my bedroom fan is um bedroom light is a fan light domination and I guess some it's got a remote sure and I guess someone in the building or someone a bow above or below hat have the same thing my same model and this thing would turn on in the middle of the night so I'm full fan content brightness and you know what what yeah so and it's like yeah it's not what do you do you don't there's nothing you can just take the light out ya know you turn so like this the switch on the wall turn it all off got it excuse me at night yeah it's just stupid I think that's just like one of the perils of community living it is actually I moved since I moved into my I used to live in an apartment that was like 25 stories and like very full of people and now the place I'm in now is eight floors and like maybe 10 or 12 units in total and way fewer those problems like connecting two consoles with like game controllers or Wi-Fi connection has been much stronger because there's way less like in turn yeah it's nice it's very nice you stuff like weird things happen to me when I was a kid and I got like a phone line installed yeah in my room was that exciting yeah it was that's did you have that experience Greg didn't have an individual phone line now so I got a phone line and that was like a big deal understand when oh I guess cuz you're what to one year or two years older than me yeah yeah like three by the time they were there's there's not enough difference we're like no there is enough of the difference because by the time I would have maybe possibly gotten on my own phone line it was cell phone moment no because I'm there no because I'm talking like a third down like 13 oh that's very young are you talking to just friends yeah about the the ongoing are you on a chat line events hearty chat line yeah like a pillow talk so I would have this thing where like I would be terrified of the phone ringing while I was asleep because I had I had a bad thing happen once I had a thing where like 3:00 a.m. yeah cool night yeah bones rings yeah and I used to keep that phone right next to my face sir phone rings yeah and I my instinct is to pick it up sure so it's so it's 3:00 a.m. yeah 1992 yeah 1994 let's say 3:00 a.m. Jeff's sleeping yeah oh my God my phone ringing it's so I'm just a kid hello something screaming in my ear oh my god that's like an x-files episode but it was the dude it was just like some maniac right here it's a maniac like that yeah and I'm like like a chihuahua you guys shaking in fear yeah that's intense so from then on out yeah pull that thank you everything you're going to bet oh yeah yeah oh yeah off the hook Wow do you have is that the case now with your cell phone uh mmm a little bit like I might do not disturb on I don't keep my phone in the same room as me really interesting that's more of like you shouldn't have your phone now pretty close to you at all times just especially when you sleep like just not just don't do that I mean it's pretty close I'm blind what do you think is gonna happen I don't know like it's just like there's a lot of information being sent back and forth you don't need to like be exposed to that 24 hours a day the information are you talking I thought you meant like radio waves coming out of it there are waves coming out of the phone as well it can't hurt you know not being right next to my shirt so there's that yeah I'd and I have like a fear of just like getting a weird call which probably at my age is you know something I should just like yeah need to be available for at this point yeah I mean well first of all you can obviously look at the phone number yeah but I don't think there's a I feel like crank calling is over seeing its moment no there's so many other ways to destroy someone's life we talked about this the other day I once got a call from a number like they have spoof errs now that like Hank you think you're getting a local call yeah it sucks really yeah one of my idiot friends is doing and it was a spam call ya know is one of my idiot friends pranking me into thinking it was someone else's yeah like by Stacy's number no no like my like a very similar number to mine like a normal number god I gotta go stupid I want to hear your scary text stories yeah kids please eight six six four oh four seen it don't scream oh that would be really if you're just gonna ruin me yeah 86 for for CNN or the 404 at cnet.com we're gonna take a break when we come back I got more crap happening I gotta talk about some more stuff Plus just when you thought comic book villains were not a real thing one arises from the ashes and starts messing with what we hold sacred more for or for right after this today's episode of the 404 show is brought to you by 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show so we do have a lot of stories yeah we do but I wanna I want to first give you this dilemma that I am having a very emotionally fraught week no I just like enjoy little like okay enjoy little stories that happen to be I enjoy guiding you through these stories right and I enjoy talking about this is therapeutic for me that's good can you be my my can be a very can you be my my lounging couch here out a second so I know holidays are coming around I bought some Cologne on eBay okay are you familiar with this cologne in the pant like you knew this cologne before I knew it I knew a variation on it would never in my life occur to me to buy corn on eBay well so I so okay so I get a Wired subscription okay and as far as I can tell the only cool thing about printed magazines these days are like cologne samples like to be like everything else can be emulated with a digital sure with a digital iPad but you might not be the right word it's not cool but unique let's say unique and one of these things that in five years we will tell stories of cologne samples to our children weirdly anachronistic things all right sorry okay so give me that okay and like there are occasionally really creative advertisements that would only work with actual yes tactile paper yeah so I don't know every now and then I smell the Cologne okay sample cuz that's what I do and I like Cologne I I'm like a cologne thing I like I have a cologne thing you have like your brand I have a couple that I've got a few bansuri I bounced around you gotta is there like an evening one is there like a Coulomb no can you go hard tonight I don't think there's the evening one no like when you think of me do you think of a smell no okay that's good you wear cologne when you go to work yeah really yeah just for the pleasant like just so you can walk the halls and everyone can appreciate your Musk yeah I guess when you lay it out like that it's pretty silly yeah I just enjoy like smelling the stasi of a preference of your cologne uh no she used to love this one Bert no my woman likes me and Bruce no I don't know what I think is John Paul whatever their starter yeah she used to love that anyway so I used to really like aqua to Geo okay it's Giorgio Armani here right it's like very most in like a phallic-shaped bottle just a huge penis awesome so so regardless long story I'm buying cologne I'm buying this new Cologne on ebay because you saw it cologne is and cologne is very expensive yeah you know like you like higher-end cologne is too much money for smelly water like if I was if I spend $100 how long would that last me oh that could last you like a year okay that's I think Oh reasonable now it's but Georgia Romani : super expensive okay so I knew I was like I am not paying full price for this stuff just don't want to do that totally let me look on eBay okay so I find an eBay seller yeah super high rated right 99.9% feedback score I'm like oh this guy's legit sure I buy this cologne from them yeah four days later I get the delivery yeah and it is not an authentic bottle of cologne did you know when you open the box I knew right away right away like even before you smelled it Oh way before okay so I so I open this really shady box okay and even the box the Cologne comes in yeah looked counterfeit okay it just did not play the part no pun intended it didn't pass the sniff test I'm like looking at this thing and I'm just like what is wrong with this box it just looked like it was printed by somebody in the shore house yeah like really wired low quality Chinese DVDs super low quality and I'm just like oh man did I just get winked there just get bamboozled sure so it says the name brand and in face of a dozen it says like Jojo Armani and then it says like aqua it's an aqua to geo twice I think this is clearly not real upon further inspection now grant you this is before he even took the bottle out yeah upon further inspection I looked at the top of the box which normally has like an embossed short logo yeah that the frame of what someone must have used the stamp of artificial logo yeah like I saw the outline of the stamp and I'm just like oh my god this guy wasn't even trying no not even giving an effort I open it up the bottle looks pretty legit okay but it smelled awful oh really why it's not even close like not even close because I've then gotten the real stuff the real stuff really happens to smell nice okay and I just was like what where did this come from like what is the deal sure so I initiate a refund yes I'm online i'ma go hey I write this guy a mostly polite letter yeah and I said hi I just received my product I'm 99% sure similar to your feedbacks that this is counterfeit Cologne sure he writes back and he's like you know no no way this is real I'm like nah no I said you're wrong yeah I go to the store in town yeah and I find the real bottle here and I show this guy his bottle next to the real bottle PayPal refund right oh yeah I'm sure okay but then I get a phone call yeah I see his number and I'm like who is that like sure I pick it up this is Jeff uh who's this this is your eBay seller like how did you get this number like the future is now and it means you don't have to talk to anyone like me talking to my eBay seller is a situation I do not want to be confronted with let alone a seller that I'm I'm having a bit of conflict with yeah it's really even think of where he would have gotten your phone number so that occurred to me during the call sure when you do a PayPal transaction they get your no I guess like that is just part of yeah your dress is never occurred to me that anyone would ever use it right sure so I felt immediately vulnerable to be like oh man this guy's calling me yeah it was a Midwest number so like I wasn't like he was around the block like it was still a little upsetting I'm picturing like a Jack Lemmon in Wabasha know in going Gary Gerdt Glen Ross were like oh geez man you gotta do me a favor and that's kind of the way the conversation went he goes he goes like this he goes so yeah oh you know man I'm so sorry this happened to you man you know we hired someone brand new and and he's just dropping the ball left and right well that's with my head I'm like um okay so at that moment he's like I'm gonna I'm gonna refund your money right away I'm like yeah well and then at that moment the email came in where I got the refund so once I knew the refund was secure then I was like oh dude you sent me fake Cologne yeah what's like what's going on sure oh my god he's brand new II didn't know I'm like how does that explain the fake cologne like your new guy is you are you implying that your new guy like took it upon himself to start brewing his own Cologne in the bathtub getting bottling that shop really poorly and unconvincingly and then shipping it out to thousands of eBay customers how's that work going good profit margin margin in that yeah probably 99% you got to imagine okay so the fact that they have such a high rating you gotta imagine that they were selling legit cologne for a very long time definitely so that plays into the conversation as well okay Oh continue right so I'm like man I don't get it you're so highly radian searched his all of his feedback yeah and he only had two people claiming they got fakes in like oh seven crazy what the hell is that about and I don't forget it so maybe he's telling the truth we're like he hired someone new who like so maybe this guy the guy he hired that's new has I could tried a different line of like getting his product yeah yeah and the product he's getting is like counterfeit like I don't know what happened yes we got imagine he's not the one doing the bar if the guy you're talking to it I hope to know if he probably has like a guy that he goes to and the guy was trying to pull a fast one so the whole time oh I'm so sorry Jeff you know it's a holiday season I just want you to have the best holiday possible the whole time I'm thinking oh this guy just doesn't want a negative feed exactly that's all this is yeah that's all this is all right my question to you Russ yeah do I give 110% totally I have to yeah I absolutely have to you know why there's a few reasons one I would say he fought you on the fact that it was counterfeit like he didn't immediately be like oh yeah sorry we'll get you a refund he he he played that card for a second and then realized he wasn't talking to a dummy well right exactly so that's an instant indication that like he would take advantage of someone that was not willing to go the extra mile and prove oh this is counterfeit right so I don't like this guy be he's Paul I don't like him he's pulling the holiday I want you to have a good holiday line which really bugs me like no you don't give a about my holiday you just want a good eBay rating so but there is a creepiness factor here where he failed me yeah and mine he has your address and he has my dress he has my number here and now I'm gonna leave him this awful I'm not gonna leave is it it doesn't say it was you well I guess he doesn't put too much yeah but he doesn't know like who gives some ratings and stuff yeah what do you mean of course yeah okay I mean yeah uh-huh say it's not as easy is that an ethical dilemma because the ethical answer is Raven right oh you know cuz you want to detract the possibility that's happening to someone else again right if it makes you feel unsafe which I don't in the end like what's he gonna do come to your house and if you up for whatever the amount was I'm not worried about that okay so whatever write them down but you understand like the the place the things in place here are like not the they're just strange I would when I rated him I would be like 100 percent SuperDuper honest yeah and just like give like whenever when I say it like weird a or Airbnb scenarios I'm always like very blunt about all of the different things that happen there and then people can judge for themselves so maybe this is a neutral situation where I say was not was not convinced sellers product was authentic but supplied an immediate refund neutral yeah I think there's probably fine although I will I would not do I think I'm gonna go negative go negative this guy's about get it get it he's getting it bad how many stars are gonna give him half-assed arms a sliver look the tiniest slice of a star he's only getting one point out of that stuff that's that's scummy though I don't wanna deal with that now I do a thing I just use Amazon for that stuff no this is the price price can be beat pricey so what was all this excuses I don't even get to that yeah okay so his price was like $45 yeah on a bottle that should have been like 90 oh yeah that's crazy but but the real one I wound up getting yeah it was like 50 tears okay which is like only 7 bucks moles that from another seller yeah yeah it was authentic interesting a little tip - yeah for anyone listening as a cologne fanatic mmm buy testers what does that mean cologne testers what does that even mean so you know when you go to like me a cologne tester yeah they say tester on it right what's the same thing they sell those discounted oh they're sold as testers because I thought it was just the store that stuck that's thicker no no interest oldest testers okay there you go a little bit of cologne advice for no friends at the 404 show even some money this week pop culture in the forefront today the x-men apocalypse trailers out we're not gonna really talk about that just go watch it it's I thought was a better trailer than Batman oh yeah yeah I mean that goes was Russ just doesn't like the way apocalypse I think apocalypse looks like a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers villain yeah IVA needs to be particularly is Bryan Singer yeah did you like Days of Future past ah throws okay okay I kind of fell asleep I was pretty tired when I watched it but I agree well yeah it's like fine I like the first one more although I kind of hated the second half of the first one when like the whole story kind of fell apart I think two is the best x-men - yeah x-men stop opening with Niekro oh it's amazing where he's breaking into the White House fantastic it's really good anyway we bring up pop culture because the Golden Globe nominees were announced and everything anyone get excited about the Conchords I think so I think the Golden Globes are like more of the party no I'm not talking about the people that like go I'm talking about like people at home like oh I can't go out tonight the Golden Globes are on like really not right absolutely the only reason I care is because Ricky Gervais has been like essentially ripping people to shreds right during every shift just uses it as like a roasting plant and that and and he says stand up is very good yeah so that's entertaining but like as in a word show it's kind of a joke it is yeah so but what do you got going on here well I bring it up because every year the nominees come out I look at the list and you know the Hollywood Foreign Press they nominate weird stuff like the innominate movies that clearly should not be nominated yeah like Best Motion Picture comedy the movie spy should not be up there people kind of like that movie I saw it no no I I liked Mo's McCarthy yeah I do yes movies not that funny maybe it's not for me I don't yeah but I love bridesmaids sure and that seemed director yeah same thing and there's God you know yeah of course bullfight yeah big thang big beak ballad it did just occur to me by the way that the reason it's the Golden Globes is because it's the Foreign Press because it's like an international thing yeah no I didn't I never put that together so anyway the reason I even bring any of this up yeah people think all you don't like spy which I did the spy had its moments it's just I don't think was that fun I would say of these it's obviously the weekend well I don't know what the big short is but make sure there's like this caper isn't this caper movie that's out I don't know peep there's a lot of bunch of joy which is a Rosa David O'Russell movie right which is obviously like very highfalutin train wreck obviously I enjoyed training like that a little bit so boy wait here's my thing we're talking about the category of comedy yeah well it's actually the category of musical or comedy but fine yeah and then the marsh the Martian yeah this is a weird howling but this is my point exactly where it's like oh no you guys don't have a category you're missing a category that you have drama you have musical and comedy but you don't have like whatever the hell the Martian was what category would that be the action thriller I think it's action thriller but that's like just add another category no yes I I think it's we know you're wrong here ama drama yes okay drama d and music I think it you're a thriller is a drama in the like okay so rather than why revenant is nominated for drama right and it also be after and so is met Mad Max fury road is not a drama you call that movie a drama I know I I mean sure fine it fits max Mad Max fits and drama both and the Martian fits in common the second you start introducing these crazy genres it gets really messy because where do you see like do you have a separate musical category no do you have a do they have a animated category like the Oscars do they do but the Oscars doesn't break out comedy so that's an another interesting they should they I think so Tim I think it is very very very rarely win best picture of the year I mean you could say like Birdman was a comedy yeah I'm over like babe oh wait that didn't win but it was nominated babe babe the pig movie the talking pig was nominated for an Oscar picture what yeah are you directed oh no he didn't direct it but I think he worked on at the director of Mad Max fury road worked on that movie he definitely directed the second babe George Miller George Miller directed babe to picking us I know that are you searching this like I don't know what I'm talking about with babe being nominated for Best Picture it was nominated not pig in the city pig in the city was not now enter for Best Picture so what is just baby you never seen it's terrific I know what it is it's Cromwell you're telling me this pig talking he talked yeah he's a talking pig a talking pig the voice of Chucky from Rugrats a talking pig movie was nominated for an Oscar yeah I don't I don't believe it it was nominated for Best Picture director adapted screenplay like it had a lot of nominations was this like a joke like what happens really good movie but what I'm saying is it's very rare that those lighter movies win Oscars it's usually the biopic or like a really intense whatever drama well Birdman won last year well that's a I mean yeah I wouldn't yeah it's like a dark comedy drama situation this is a long way to say the problem with the genres is that it gets very messy and categorizing stuff is very messy and that's really why the Martian is there because the studio that put out the Martian was like okay we're gonna have a really tough competition in the drama category with revenant and a bunch of other stuff let's make it easy on ourselves and go into the Comedy category now the question is who in the foreign press is making the call to say this isn't comedy you're crazy like no way the Ray Charles biopic deserves a Comedy category if that's the thing or musical I guess it would be yeah but that's the thing I think you can get away with putting comedy and musicals in the same thing because there are so few yeah and they can they kind of they're cut a little bit from the same cloth okay lighter generally yeah yeah like lame is I'm okay with putting in comedy in the music okay fair enough so you have comment feel fair to put lame is and like trainwreck in the same category though that's really bizarre and it also doesn't feel fair to have Selma go up against Birdman for a picture of the year if it's me I would separate it out and then get rid of like the just what is it like Best Supporting Guest Actor in a TV drama like get that out of there yeah just you know have the awards beforehand with the like dus celebrity hosting and through that or then and just like have top-tier Awards I hate I hate award shows I've very horses for so do I for me it's all about the results yeah I'm so in the morning I find out the results it is but I really do it's bizarre more the Martian being it labels economy is weird although there are a lot of pretty funny jokes in that movie right like science jokes yeah I mean jokes are jokes yeah kind of jokes ish they're mostly science jokes but he like says the F word Allah you know yeah there's I mean I don't really want to get these potatoes he makes potatoes oh yeah you still haven't seen hasn't seen it on the moon on the pump on the Martian right yeah yeah so anyway go look through the list and see if you tell me it's only one episode deep into the second season but I already declared today oh it's it's a triumph a success I love it I love everything about that show yeah so there you have it confusing as anything that's the story with the Martian and very way the Hollywood Foreign Press categorizes films nominated for prestigious awards when we come back we're gonna talk about a man who is not worthy of anything good in this world he is a comic book villain personified so many teases we're gonna tell you about the human piece of garbage right after this stick around for for show today is also sponsored by canary a complete home security system and a single device I've been using canary the eye in the sky and I'm getting a very uncomfortable peek into the monotony that is my dog's life I assume there's not a lot of moving involved he just sits there yeah and I'm like is this working oh it's working he just doesn't move because Canaries 1080p HD camera pretty much picks up everything in my living room it's got a wide-angle lens and it's motion 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shkreli is I do this is the gentleman I believe he was a former hedge fund manager that took over a pharmaceutical company and raised the price of a drug by like fifteen thousand percent or something close four thousand percent he raised the price of an HIV medication from dollars to thousands of dollars something that was a real scumbag about it while Mikey was basically being a real dick about it in addition right he was a scum I think okay I'm sorry that the he made the pill seven hundred 50 dollars when it used to cost something much less and more reasonable like and it wasn't like a way it wasn't like headache medicine yeah it was it was a more effin aids medicine yeah so everyone really started to hate this guy he did a lot of interviews and he kind of was like I do what I want it more or less yeah it's like what he said to the world well if you recall we're just gonna somehow tie this together in a very you know out of order strange way if you recall a while back the wu-tang clan was talking about how they're going to make a new record and sell it to one person yes and there was all this like mystery surrounding it and that they were gonna like destroy the original source material once they were done well guess who bought the album someone with a lot of spare change the human piece of garbage that is walking this earth this Martin shkreli guy actually bought the album for around 2 million dollars it's called once upon a time and Shaolin and I cannot believe that evil exists as much as it does in the form of this person yeah he's a big-time scumbag and and even the RZA went ahead and said that they didn't know who the guy was or what his reputation was when they sold it to him and made the deal and now that he does he feels bad but at least the money that they were given a quote significant portion of it went to charities so nice nice of wu-tang and and his clan but guess there's no guy named but there they are I mean growing up I was a little obsessed with wu-tang yeah anyway story gets a little stranger and maybe perhaps a little better yeah because in the contract in the contract that apparently was signed by both parties during the purchasing of once upon a time and Shaolin its I can't even begin this is gonna sound crazy but this is actually the legalese used in the contract this is a clause in the contract and goes like this the buying party also agrees that at any time during the stipulated eighty eight year period which is like how long the music is exclusive until the year 21:03 at any point during the during the stipulated eighty eight year period the seller may legally plan an attempt to execute one heist or caper to steal back once upon a time and Shaolin which if successful would return all ownership rights to the seller okay even better said heist or caper can only be undertaken by currently active members of the wu-tang clan and/or actor Bill Murray with no legal repercussions everyone got that yes so I guess like during like Jim Jarmusch's coffee and cigarettes they conspired at one point we're like they just had a great relationship and they hit it off because it was a RZA and I forget the other dudes name in this conference in this scene with you with with Bill Murray I remember and and that's a stipulation in this contract so they could plan like an ocean's 11 style they could to break in and steal it back and then it becomes theirs again now I don't know how this is delivered to the human piece of garbage oh he doesn't have it yet I don't know yeah and like I'm curious if like he can also release it to the world for free right but knowing this guy's track history he'll never do that apparently he's been arranging listening party with like celebrity right that seems likely or he would just like sell don't like as so it is a show where you could like pay 20 bucks and like sit in a chair alone isn't this very weird I have never been more effective well the weird thing is like let's also back up a second and be like oh man I want to hear this album like I want to hear you what was the last album they put I don't know yeah a while ago yeah no it is fascinating I'm sure everyone is chomping at the bit to listen to it this book do you understand how to build up like it's a lot of build up and who knows like how it exists yeah but the crazy part is like no man this this this pharmaceutical executive guy like he's a real-life supervillain yeah he's like he's like telling the world like oh no you know that you know that group that that hip-hop group that like really influential in the 90s and to this day like oh you're never gonna hear their new stuff because I hold all the power it does feel and you know that aids right sorry it does feel like if he wanted to he could like mic coordinate some sort of caper with them and film it online and like just from a PR standpoint make try to make himself less of the scum of the earth he could he could reverse all that yeah sadly he could I wish that wouldn't do it well plus the AIDS medicine lowering the price yeah that would help too but I think yeah a lot of his rep like he put cameras all around his house and released the footage of like the RZA and Bill Murray breaking into his house to get the album Mac would do a long go a long way to like redeeming him see what the AIDS medicine is a nice that so here's what I do if on him yeah right so I think this is maybe on the track that you were okay where you said so you were you implying like he conspires with who tang to like make this a movie almost sort of like that's that to me that would be like the best way and I don't even pay to see that totally I go pay ten bucks to watch that I mean yeah I don't know how long it could be long as you as long as my 10 bucks includes the album yes that's it yeah that's what he does yeah for $10 mr. shkreli you I will pay to watch a very carefully choreographed thing where Bill Murray and wu-tang break into your house steal perform the caper /hi steal back their record and it like and like you get some director you get Jim Jeremy sure to direct the the kite the the the the heist the caper and you get free AIDS medicine with the package just like the first 10,000 purchase I hope the album gets out in some way and I hope it gets out in the form of a heist with don't worry that would be delightful I'm just saying it's an option yeah uh finally on the docket Rus yeah well let you take the wheel for a little bit yeah so I don't know Jeff are you are you a bingeing kind of person and by that I mean entertainment but yeah I knew you didn't mean like heroin yeah I was there was a time I the most recent most recently was the strain last summer I watched that whole first season in about four days which they that's the one with the ad and the worm coming out of the I first season is really good second season not not good good great pilot in the first season yeah I was Stacy and I became obsessed how to how to bang it out in one week yeah did that but then when I see when I binge takes over my dreams takes over my life it's not good I also feel like you miss a lot of detail like it all starts to bleed together a little bit I mention it because there's a game that I've been wanting to play called Borderlands tales from the borderlands yeah the telltale game and I've been watching it for a while and it I think the first episode it's episodic and the first episode came out in like June and the last episode came out of a month or two ago and they're selling it if you have a PlayStation Falls account they're selling it for three seventy three dollars and seventy five cents for the whole thing go get it what are you do yeah which I got yeah I got it but it makes me feel a little bit bad because I didn't like pay any reasonable sum for this well don't worry about that it's not your fault and B I feel like especially with the telltale stuff like I want to support them because I like what they're doing but it's so brutal to play those games piece by piece when you just sort of want to like play through the whole thing and get the whole story right there they're pretty long like you're saying you don't want to go through the motion no I know I don't want to play the first episode and then wait three months for another episode especially when each of the episodes is like two and a half hours long yeah I thought always thought that was like the brilliance of the tell-tale stuff where it's like if you take your time and don't plow through them yeah by the time the next episode came out you're like ready you're kind of like ready to go yeah I guess so that that's what happened with me and the wolf among us I I tend to yeah maybe I don't know I just lose interest it's like with the comic books like come rooks I can't read if they're coming out once a month I started doing that and I'm with you on that looks like a drag like you're over it's over in like ten minutes it is yeah it's one of those things it sounds a little longer but still it's like do you want to it's intentionally designed to be this ongoing story and like with crazy cliffhangers at the end of each episode but imagining like watching a TV show and that's at the end of each TV show it's like three months away from the next one and there's a cliffhanger like drag it's a problem you know they do that in between seasons sure but that's once it's once you get a whole story and then once yeah I'd be fine at the at the end of the borderlands game is a cliffhanger for next season see that's the thing we're just we're just trained we're just conditioned to expect it one way and that's what it is yeah just used trained through TV I guess so but they they match the format of TV so like they kind of do yeah I guess it's working out for them like they've been doing this since Walking Dead totally structurally it seems there may be no Batman one next year or excited about the Batman one but again like the Batman one I know for sure that I'd much rather play it as a bulk thing yeah then one at a time totally I'm with you you know for me and then I know they just they also did a game of Thrones y-yeah it's tough it's tough I don't know how they're making so many of these well they're not tremendously expensive to do but like the writing in the developer that's something that's that's tough yeah that that engines showing a little bit of an age to his right yeah I mean that's keeps the price down for them and obviously they have good writing probably I would say maybe the best writing in the games industry right now which isn't saying a lot but it's certainly up there right yeah I don't know it just it just makes me feel torn I understand you're gonna be torn yeah just like no but I think yeah what's that just like Natalie Imbruglia well explain that she wrote a song called torn Oh God okay well I guess we're just gonna have to settle and end the show on that can I mention the producthunt game oh my god that's right I'm sorry what is it yeah so there's a game called inky blah it's called inky blocks and it's like Tetris but it's in a circle and it's you know nice pastel colors and like like a cool look to it it's on iPhone I'm sorry it's not Android oh it is it's only on android iOS as well I don't know I'm checking but I just like the art style and they clearly spent on it yeah it's on oh no sorry it's on only on Android yes Wow we got one I really like the art style and it seems cool it's a colorful reimagining of Tetris you can check it out and a lot of other games on producthunt calm slash games go check it out follow Russ follow me that's gonna do it for this week on the 404 show real quick before we leave we were supposed to have Katie linendoll on today it was kind of like saving that a surprise it's been a really long time but she had to shut the cancel the last minute so I didn't and I didn't want to like you know hold that for another month or whenever she can make it back but she will be back next month so that'll be a lot of fun after CES we'll have Katie back on the show it's been months and months so this it'll be a good time with her next week is Steve to be our last current episode and then there will be episodes on Christmas Day the 25th there'll be an episode on New Year's Day the first and there will be an episode on the eighth but those won't be like new there'll be new content they'll be new come to you we recruited them already they'll all be pre-recorded more than we do then same day here on Fridays yeah that's it all right back here next week with a brand new show look forward to that thanks for everyone submitting holiday show ideas in the subreddit you can do that yourself ready calm / r / - 404 866 404 CNET is the phone number you can call to leave us a voicemail and that's gonna do it alright buddy alright alright now next time I'm jet back I'm Ross rustic this has been the 404 show high tech lowbrow this episode of the 404 show was brought to 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