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you and welcome to the 404 show live from CES 2012 my name is Jeff Bakalar I'm Wilson tang and I'm Justin you and this is the show where we put it all on black that is correct that's how I lose a lot of money but we're very happy to be here trimming live from CES 2012 guys how are you enjoying the show so far until it's officially started today it has yesterday was a lot of press conferences going on a lot of strangeness at press conferences a lot of kangaroos a lot of kangaroos and apparently that's going to get up people buying DVRs yeah I never put two and two together but it's brilliant the first thing I think of talking about laptop manufacturers making TV we did TV manufacturers making laptops for the topsy-turvy world yeah absolutely yesterday was pressed day and there were a lot of really cool press conferences I think my favorite though the Panasonic press conference a lot of weird thing is going on is like a return to the 19th right yeah throwback yeah so I don't know if you guys saw this but uh by the way it's really nice to have more than two people in the audience this is great really interesting fantastic people so yeah yesterday panasonic announced their new social televisions in conjunction with myspace most last time even heard those two words we're gonna walk yeah well I'm surprised that you would use the word myspace and anything that's must be buzz-worthy yeah usually it's like remember my space all right happened a while ago right now how to get rid of your myspace right absolutely so we've seen social televisions before but panasonic they didn't release a lot of details about it but basically you're to be able to sort of tell your friends on the TV what you're watching on the TV you probably don't want to do that though right well I probably don't do it either a lot of guys probably wouldn't want to know or wouldn't want to share everything that they're watching and sure everything you watch on your TV is sort of your own personal experience right yeah I don't know how willing a lot of people will be to share that information right yeah well I watch a lot of Cartoon Network Wilson I don't know what you're right here but uh it was really close at the end they had kind of like a one last thing moment where they brought out a celebrity to promote myspace TV on Pennisi right that's Justin Timberlake how about that came out to a very quiet audience nobody seemed to care that Justin if i was there i would have been screening in the front we're gonna throw in your panties up there what's going on to here with this was it euro you're blowing me off anyway uh yeah so justin is apparently bringing myspace back a single handedly is that something you guys would well you know I was talking to Rafe Needleman about this yeah and like myspace should just stick to what it originally was and I was like something that bans could you know get into and really like a continued to develop that right nobody needs another social network nobody needs another video service right especially one that's full of crap so far yeah I mean you know it's like the myspace TV that's the sort of thing feel like they should have like the myspace well you know like music player or something like that that's what I associate myspace with yeah that's how I listen to you know quote unquote undiscovered bands in point yeah I really don't associate my series with TV ever well you know it's fine it's sort of in that same vein last night I was at digital experience and I gotta see television set sure that I think arguably is cooler than a myspace TV and that was a TV set with bittorrent built right in okay um I don't know how they manage to do this it's just gonna spit out citations every time I down you just buy it you go to jail right um but no apparently bittorrent has gotten together with a bunch of European and Asian manufacturer okay and they built the technology right into the TV set right um I haven't searched for anything sort of you know illegal or where someone doesn't own the copyright to it but I feel like it's sort of like really taking that removing that middle step sure admit you know people won't admit it but they'll tour in something and then they have to hook their computer up or they have to you know get a player that plays the indie this is just bypassing the whole thing me I got easier for four straight from the remote you'll be all search for loss right ever that's a dangerous combination I mean as long as it's not in 3d that's all i care i got i just want to hear about one TV announced but that's not actually going back to the panasonic news they announced that this summer you know the summer olympics in london they're happy broadcasting that in 3d that's the first Olympian the Olympics of every woman answering now she's going to move 3ds the summer olympics do i really want to watch mens weightlifting right like the shot put yeah like ping pong yet like men's table tennis wonder if yeah definitely I would think I am I don't know about nothing about the javelin yeah absolutely one of those things that really just gonna hurt the Olympic brand and another think so i think i mean i get people tuned in to the Olympics there's a lot of national pride I've suddenly a lot of people start watching it on their HD 3d TV and they get nauseous cheering for their team I don't know if that's a good thing for all right not know you're the only one that gets nauseous watch AMD not gonna hear in order our live honest Wilson was watching were you watching I was watching an African documentary right and he got nauseous after what six seconds of watching three details yeah and I took on the train on the way home Maddie know that I that's gross all right let's bring along what else we have going on apparently there's a hand crank powered a tablet that is debuting here at CES Majesty is like the third version of the this project has been going on for years now it's called the one laptop per child yep it kind of almost gave birth a bit in a way to the netbook revolution right I'm gonna supposed to be a super low cost pc sure connect to the internet have Wikipedia built-in right um and you know after netbooks took off nobody really had good reason to buy a One Laptop Per child and now they're they're also behind it it with this new product it's a tablet yes this tablets called the XO three-point Oh like you said it's the third version it's going to have an 8 inch screen you're going to have you're off your options of two operating systems to put on it that's Android and then a lineups based operating system here's my question though why don't they just give away touch pads yeah they're gonna cost about a hundred dollars yeah her tablet uh-huh for that price you probably could have just sent over a 16 gate touch said what I use at home perfectly good you won't have to manufacture sure and you're not left behind it all a little buddy yeah well yeah but you imagine a bunch of kids the first thing I'm gonna do is like root it or right you're really upset I think they're really like that McCallum yeah thinking about rooting yeah all jokes aside this is actually a really cool product absolutely a hand crank you mentioned is used to power the solar energy power on the battery on it and you just crank it up or put in the Sun and it'll charge your battery for eight hours interesting well speaking of a sort of non 3d HDTV tech that finally sort of taking off right um Thunderbolt yeah I was the you know high-speed data connector mostly available on max so far they've been one or two other computers have variants of it but the connectors the adapters and everything that you could get for from their boat is really frigging expensive right right like they're a couple hundred bucks but now manufacturers turn to release new products that really take advantage of that yep and intel a said that they're building Thunderbolt into their Ivy Bridge processors which will debut actually not now but in the next half of the year right which is why in a blog on our own CNET's crave you can go to crave Dina calm and read Scott Stein's blog about why you should maybe hold off on buying a laptop one of the reasons he said that is because a lot of drives are coming later this year sure in the summer time it'll actually have Thunderbolt ports built in right now you don't have anything to access those drug understand why they can't line up that whole laptop release schedule to make that up it seems like you come to see us you're looking for the latest and greatest yet and then they're like now we don't have that that's good little later on I mean it really is a good point like there's a huge onslaught of ultrabooks right but they're going to be quickly replaced with brand new processor technology a lot faster to a point where you can get some real heavy duty work done on them right and the batteries are going to last forever essentially what's really cool though is that I was walking the floor earlier today and there's a new drive that came out at the show called the elgato huh that's a solid state drive that has a thunderbolt port on it and it's self powered by the bus so now you can attach that to just drive you won't need an external batteries or senator power itself well you know I really think we're getting to a point where Thunderbolt in a lot of ways is finally going to be able to fulfill its promise sure you know that I think the coolest thing is the apple thunderbolt display you know like you like to carry your computer around go to a meeting you you want to sit and write in the part right but when you get back home and you actually need to do some heavy-duty work on a much bigger screen right you just plug that one you know that boy in now you got your gift gigabit ethernet your get all these firewire ports it becomes like a fully functional and computer not to mention the tank gigabit transfer speeds right yeah super super fast no beyond that there been a couple of big you know product announcements over here in OC es a big one that's on a lot of android phones that we've seen is this new gorilla glass yeah and this is something i'm really a psych devout because i feel like every cell phone everything i've ever owned has always just eaten it totally you know a week later I look at my new phone and it's just scratched to all health I feel like now that you know this new and improved girl glass too they were throwin I heard they were throwing them against the wall right is that what is that what they were demo yeah they were like literally having people over you know stuff like that right just to prove how scratchers isn't that stuff is proved out careless people really right yeah bill you'll probably you know counter oh good you know so you'll drop your phone off in the middle of the street in a dump truck this is what's gonna have to other thing they should just do a product demo right behind the stage of this legend to start dropping phone right now super nun them go and see my thing with the display yeah all right cool uh well I think we're gonna take a little break a little break yeah hopefully we'll have a Kevin Pierre from g4 on the second half the show he's supposed to be here somewhere I don't know where he is but maybe he's on his way but ok we'll find that out and then we'll be doing a couple giveaways with everyone who's here so if you want something for free and you like free stuff like everyone does you want to stick around we're going to give a lot a lot of stuff away in the next segment cool alright so we will be right back this is the 404 mr effers the show where we all sing songs the 404 streaming live from CES 2012 we're very excited to welcome our guests can be mean that excite yes filling out at the crowd can't even hear you over there oriental one thank you guys write anything give it up for Kevin Bleyer really okay thank you three people there is that guy over there has no idea it's almost like they don't even see us look I don't mean to cast such giant shadows over this beautiful side but no Brianna appreciate you being here my I always love being your madness is this is my yearly pilgrimage not just a CES but to this table right here coming an annual sort of tradition we gotta break it immediately everybody in volatile ong have you been here I three and a half minutes or so since getting my definite so yes several years now i don't know they were asking me what my first year of coverage was and i don't remember but after that 3d was the next big thing here and it still is probably six to seven years later forever yeah anything that you've seen so far really captured your attention or I mean you know I honestly haven't had a chance to catch much yet i'm really i'm an audio file when i love new audio technology i love that noise cancellation is finally getting good where it doesn't muddy up they assure sounds are trying to hear and they're taking that you know headphone manufacturers are putting multiple drivers and headsets it's not just one speaker less and you lose all the resolution did you have a chance to go check out monsters new set of glorified headbands and necklaces no they're beautiful in a hundred like you wave interference is not a monster branded I saw parrot has a has a set that sort of uses the jawbone jaw movement sensing technology plus three microphones built in to handle ambient noise cancellation when you're talking and listening right that's a lot of technology there plus you can do volume up or down by swiping the side of the head phones that are violent skip through tracks as well going to be hours of listening time I mean it's headphones yes but the technology is getting better and I like that it's here it's not the promise of 0 in five years right this thing will do this they're delivering it again and you know I feel like that's a big shift just in general this year now it's like really really really cool to like go down the street and tell people what kind of headphones yet well just layin down the street like I get stopped and you know sometimes I'll be testing like a new soul headphone and people will just ask me hey how do they sound and really I feel like there's two kinds of a no audio files one the guy who wants the base as loud as possible where it won't blow his eardrum okay and then the other one is the one who really wants like high fidelity audio sure and that's where like the difficulty is in the middle right like you want if I and I'm the ladder guy I'm the guy who wants to know what it sounds like when they mixed it in the studio right now versus like the base being so high I can't even hear the words they're in this all right blouson also thinks he's getting stopped because people are impressed by his have one they're just very funny discuss it's just two speakers doing what's wrong sir all right tell me about your unfortunate look abroad um all right so very cool so headphones definitely a big deal to show so far yeah I think it's time we get into one of our segments and if Kevin if you would like to participate that be ought to be all chance to talk yeah chance to be doing alright so the first thing we're going to do is we try doing this yesterday we're calling it New Year's tech resolutions obviously CES starting off the year on the right foot we we kind of want to break maybe some bad habits that maybe we've gotten into the you know habit of doing on a regular basis right so uh my personal tech resolution for 2012 I'm going to stop collecting meaningless wires and usps and just every recommended after you've ever seen I have a you got to have a drawer or a case yes and the crane feel that looks like not at Christmas less like I bought i went to the container store and got this huge dressed up in I have 30 pounds the containers to or the hoarders Emporium like I show people this bin and I go oh my god Jeff is where's TLC they need to come and do a documentary field RF switchers forget up your Nintendo exact you keep like a parallel port cables yeah like 10 you might you know travel scuzzy my back into fashion never know retro I said it went into early so that's my personal resolution 3d you're gonna give them away you're gonna burn them line i don't know i only got to radio shack where they came from open your own one and it just is out it's like a flavor in a jar it's like a confetti of just all these different wires is also funny it's like a trip back in history though sometimes yeah it's a time where the hell did I get this right there does it go to or sure that you line it with lpt1 brackets would close I just convinced myself hey one day I'm going to need this I gotta hold on to your anything so do people that collect cats live the same stuff for you down there in tality my kudos on I have a problem good thing these wires don't leave but anything behind i think is there anything that you're looking to change for your personal tech life 12 yeah you know I was just thinking just now a I gotta leave a sponsor's I need to be aware of known exactly where katie man okay it's don't you syndrome at this matter better customer I feel nauseous whenever I pay the monthly fee to drop calls and no sir I've been able to check my email in like a day and a half except the hotel on the Wi-Fi and that's insane to me that here we are surrounded by the latest and greatest technology and they're trying to say we're going to stream multimedia to the car I can't get a text message so I believe you're doing anything else yes that's all side 18 he's actually sponsoring the payphone be present the land need to be promise we won't hurt either so I got to get rid of them and then the other thing is that I I pride myself on again I'm an audio file I like high-def graphics and greatest and yet for some reason i'll spend money to go out of my way to have a seedbox in lithuania so i can get bit torrent of low-quality xvid movies that are probably available on deck yeah great sup look at a 7.1 surround sound and high-def graphics and i'm watching mono yeah cameron from a theater is somebody because i feel entitled like I shouldn't have to pay for I'm paying thirty bucks a month for a seedbox insane sure I need to start your own personal demons you gotta back yeah I got it I gotta do that yeah what about you guys good luck with that in 2012 what was my mutt I like yours actually yours yesterday you were saying you didn't want to you wanted to stop labeling people random yeah yeah I have a habit of renaming people in my contact book yeah things that maybe shouldn't be said aloud and borrow their car on my phone and find out that I've labeled them something awful what it's Kevin you're gonna reset when I relation to her that will let me and just me and Justin and his asian and other Asian yeah a 180 all right let's let's let's switch gears and do another segment that we're calling this is this is a little up close and personal I think I spilled too many beans but the resolution of the year but now it's getting to something I'm calling tech confessions all right you like that look Kevin what can I confess that i would pay monthly for access to videos like that we can arrange that in with the show don't you worry about that ah so check confessions I believe Justin you have a tech confession you want to share with us it's gonna be hard for me right now you know it took me a long time but I think it will help that i'm saying it in front of a huge audience it's a big deal Kevin um so my confession is that I still record music off the radio onto consent I have literally hundreds of five nike shoe box of maximal cassette tapes look at the way it's true creamy way they're like music on the radio yeah there's a thing called ready when they broadcast free music on what is it that you can't be that you of you clear channel you have to get it yeah vs itunes or Spotify figure out how to do this downloading thing off the internet yet so it's so easy we hit that record button on my boom box and then I little that yeah that lot of retro yeah man what I mean how many I'm not know let's open up a museum how about that wedding although is that it's not even one boom box you've got the two next to each other one record and when actually with a radio tuned in nice but then i can make cassette tape mixes you know i can label them like now that's what just in case that mean in case someone invents a time machine yes i like that if that's a hobby like you just happened to live and record did you actually do that you know like when you're younger like report things out the radio come on you know maybe a howard stern episode or dream when I should have been listening sharing kind of recorded out of alignment listen later right but no I wasn't I wasn't big like that and I didn't really oh I I mean Justin's still doing it but either I think we had this group of tapes we're like you'd have some track on there and then you have your mom screaming in the background right green bay's on the radio so once you have a mixtape do you then encode it and dial up to a bulletin board system yeah that is probably account that's my confession that is a pretty terrible terrified attic is there anything that you would like to disclose with our live audience and people watching I mean to me it was I mean the sea bots thing is something I really got a kick I gotta get rid of that no I you know I don't I'm pretty upfront about my you know it's not like a all right I used to be the guy we go I'm sitting down for a dinner a meal or whatever I haven't seen you in a long time the phone would come out and it would be face up and any little distraction or I'd constantly hits a home button looking for I'm not connecting did you say something let me see if you set it in a tweet bad conduct just trying to get I'm trying to get rid of that and get through that because I find that so many the friendships that I have with people that I truly feel like her good friends with the good hey did you see that thing that I tweeted yeah yeah I did cool and that's the entire discover the article was or the shorter was your experience it was just did you see it right well great so that's my confession i'm guilty of doing that and I want to try to get away from that this guy too bad news oh no that was my resolution actually that I would finally start looking people in the eye and I'm having a conversation with them instead of looking at my phone bill I'm going to lock eyes with people i think i really want to get guns absolutely uh so i think we're ready for another break and then when we come back we're going to be getting a few people from our live audience here to participate in a brand new game that just didn't spent three minutes developing Wow all right all right always playing farmville right now but yeah it's are going to do that and give the audience a chance to win a really cool prize a cnet sweatshirt yeah and a mixtape that's what Justin calls music mixtape you have to break for that contest be right back now that's what Justin alright welcome back to the 404 streaming live from CES 2012 it's game show time so I've developed a very cool contest for people to partake in what we're going to be doing is something we're called blech sting that's a lie texting yes is going to be an updated version of that game telephone which I looked it up on Wikipedia apparently it's also called Chinese whispers yeah we're raising an admin eid special gal visible by the Chinese whispers watch that on TV so what we're gonna ask you guys to do is take out your smartphones and we're going to read you a sentence now without looking at your phone you must text this sentence all right whoever comes closest to getting it correct will win this awesome cnet hoodie that's got earbuds built into the drawstring right okay I don't know how they did this sure that you're not looking at your cell phones we're going to put these cnet TV t shirts over your faces if that's okay just put me over your face don't go get consent long to put these burlap sacks I connected to a car battery right choice to you I want to pass these out down to our 30 all right and coming so Megan Nathan and Ray get ready get into the texting app yeah Jeffy we should be read the first one open up like a blank text or something you do that first before you blind for you answer that that would be tough that would be really fun obviously you're at CES so we rethink that you're pretty tech-savvy yeah so let's see if you got you know wine texting so you guys r anything without a steering wheel right yeah don't try this at home is what we really want to get the message across here so when you guys are all ready to go and you don't have to cover your self will trust you guys look at us okay yeah now the sentence are going to be texting all right look straight at up look at us the same chillin texting is the key hey you got it that's actually but I thought I had a blackberry person video keyboard so the sentence is the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog look at me look around fox jumped over the lazy dog I biggest why you around that's mine yeah right good the quick brown fun when you're up when you're done give us your phones the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog right play every letter great accidentally open this ipod application here an extended ascii somehow and here we go all right all right let's take a look at this oh my god ok so the athens Nathan says old firm fix jumped ice he lazy raag that's not bad that's a matter of applause for nathan hear what I want ray did it can you even read this ring that's not bad a nigga I finish what is making it Megan who use the swype keyboard got a jetty such brown BBC degree C degree C that's not all right judging by nate i think nathan is the winner you know God's the world under the bus for Nathan ladies gentlemen Nathan you got this awesome hoodie and you all can keep those t-shirts as well thank you so much fo rabbit applause for excellent job all right very good cool I got very cool Thank You Nathan all right though you can have your phone back you can have your phone back all right that was awesome that worked out other neither we have an iphone or even I guess with Android devices that use the text-to-speech feature yeah and sing at your favorite song as fast as you can and watch what Siri does with your lyrics ooh hilarious results will in Sri okie I call so we've been doing something we're trying out here you know CES is a very busy busy landscape it's tough to even tweet right we're gonna have time to write down yeah 140 characters that's way too much so we're introducing something that we're going to be doing I want everyone who's around here to retweet this for us we're calling it our 404 too busy to tweet or for short to be 2t to castrate you v2t was uh huh and you can turbit that anyway you want just uh right so what is it today just so today's ought to be 2t is LL now both and you won't explain what that means chuckles camera right now yes exactly ll you only knew the ll you can follow that at the 40 44 are to be 2t remember hashtag to be 2t Hester Athena yeah there's more letters in the head implosion don't worry about the reason why we want you to tweet ll is because LL Cool J is coming up onto the scene at stage in just a few minutes that's absolutely Jeff do you know what LL Cool J stands for ok no I read this note I think it's ladies love right yeah James cool change I'm really well done proud of you man thank you i wish nothing you absolutely so LL Cool J is going to stop by this stage right right after we get off at two p.m. Eastern fantastic that's right alright so he'll be on with brian hong got a few more minutes let's talk to kevin a little bit about what he thinks of what's coming up at CES is coming in what are your plans what would i well I'm doing a metric ton of live coverage for attack of the show right I've been running around doing packages we hit the digital experience pretty hard last night have you guys seen the or azum no real time it's an app that you can go download now on iphone or android it's it's sort of the promise of augmented reality ok but it's actually being delivered now and you can you know pointed out a movie poster in the trailer will play or put it out a pointed out of concert for really tap it and get access to itunes or facebook so it's really being used by marketing but what i love about it is that within the app which is free there's a not a paid spokesperson wink wink but uh within the app there's an sdk where you can create your own tags so someone out there have the app they could tag this stage it'll upload the image or a fingerprint as they call it and then you can create shoot your own video and tag it to the spot you can download from a library of pre-selected like 3d animation and you can make logos come to lie really you could have video play yeah you could record a message and say if you pointed out that cnet logo out in the crowd your head will appear on it and start talking it works it actually works and it works pretty well and it's out now i will you sold me it really it impressed me don't get me wrong it's got a ways to go but that is the promise of the future of search we're no longer have to look at a bottle and wonder what's the nutritional content or what is this beverage that you point your phone at it it's going to pop out in real-time display when you're at a bar they can throw out a coaster you could point them at it drink specials here's what we're known for tap it of course yeah i mean you get that into eyewear and you're set and it's in its sky i'll bet it reality when they first started coming out we're starting to see a lot more nowadays that's when i realized that we're in the future sure that's what I knew the future is now yeah i went to the lego store that's a lego store that popped up and down in California where I'm from and they have a monitor with a web candidate if you hold a box the box of Lego's up to it it'll show you what the completed project will look like on top of the box you hold up right it's insane like all the augmented reality terms you mentioned SDK and I'm looking forward to like that time when you know like people can develop things like x-ray vision or you know I think you feel that quite nicely I lined out just like you grow you're using x-ray for i think that's that's cool i mean little things like look of course CES is always iterative we always go well the screens are a little thinner they're a little brighter they're a little whatever and and the promises from three years ago or on the floor today and they work and the promises of today in three years time they'll be there from 3d glasses yeah exactly that's always been the big thing but i like the little innovations i like a GPS dog collar that will alert you if your dog is out of the yard and text you right I saw that last night tag like it's a simple little product but that could be meaningful and customers have already you know bought that product and it saved animals it's reunited families last night I digital experience I got to see a lot more of what Fitbit is doing and that's something that you know it can really impact a lot of people in our community because we sit on our butts for 16 hours every day and I want to track that I want to track of activity and cardiovascular endurance Eddie horizontal line I like the notion that that it discreet tracking to you know that having to take a picture of your food for the go Bryce little whatever I mean it's a novelty right now but the notion that in a year time two years time that data will be automatically collected without me having to think about it and I'll be able to track my progress set goals compete with other friends on a fitness level that might be the motivation that people need to keep going or at least make healthier decisions if a bracelet can vibrate as I'm reaching for it'll happen definitely so everyone should check out attack of the show absolutes on weeknights at seven down g4g for I make sure you check that at seven eastern time correct that's correct yeah and online g4tv calm yes sir follow kevin on twitter k perera yes all right make sure you spell am at yeah enjoy all the vowels and if you want to give us a call we're all about audience interaction if your life you're here at the show at CES 2012 come to our stage every day 1 p.m. is when we're on tomorrow we're going to have a Liza dushku hey we're going to have Wayne Barry and I come back why did you bring me in Elijah our I mean they're gonna have a tough act to follow I can't recite bring it on all right it's cold in here there must be some toros in the end I wish awesome dude at CES or out it take it out away either way that's pretty good the number to call us is 866 404 cnet you can follow us on twitter at the 404 and if you're still doing the email thing that's cool too the 404 @ cnet.com what's the fax number we don't do that they're a carrier pigeon the cornice or smoke signal number we come before you know yeah we found in the hole Morse code thing done with that too all right so that's going to do it for us thanks so much to everyone you really appreciate you checking our show out live and we will be back tomorrow once again big thanks to Kevin for android bugs with Herrera thank you for audience all right thank you to our audience we will be back tomorrow take care until then I'm Jeff Bakalar I'm okay and I'm just you it's the 404 high-tech lowbrow see you guys smart