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let's get right into it PlayStation the next PlayStation his for ps4 whatever the hell they're going to call it a lot of rumors hitting the internet yesterday uh kotaku got their hands on a leak quote unquote I'm just sorry I've become so numb and desensitized to all these next-generation console rumors it's tough to take any of them seriously but again this one comes out says that the next PlayStation will hit the market in 2013 I don't think that'll happen personally supposedly it's named Orbis codename Orbis which just doesn't mean anything to anybody either because it's going to be co playstation 4 whatever but the real details are what sort of uh I guess you know making people talk it will supposedly only lock games into a single PlayStation Network account there will be no backwards compatibility so any PlayStation 3 game that you have on a disc doesn't sound like it'll be able to be played on the PlayStation 4 and the most shocking of all it will have some sort of technology built into it that will prevent you from playing a used video game ok so the ramifications of that final detail are endless not only does it in one fell swoop just completely eliminate things like gamefly yeah and things like a gamestop you ever hear that multi-billion dollar chain so I don't know I think what I what do you think and there what do you think that this is really sort of I don't know knows if it's all confirmed or true Sony's not confirming or denying well what do you think this sort of means for the future of gaming I mean I think the reason behind it goes to the conversation we're having for is largely because you know Sony is always like a leader in terms of DRM yeah you know they have the most prolific blu-ray player would share his three implements Navy amongst other things first when the ps3 was hacked i think that that you know that scared them and that's why that they with the ps4 with these particular rumors they want to make it as lockdown as possible but i think the rama asians are you know it's it's really really bad it's getting to the point where it's so much more strict than what we would consider you know with movies or blu rays and they've always sort of been on par you know when blockbuster you know when going to the store and renting a movie was probably you always go and you know rent a game yeah and do that now you're at the point where well you can rent movies or you can do this or do that but you can't do that with games of course so I think I think that's a concern yeah especially with the cost of games because it you know a movie is cheaper you know you might be able to see in the theater first or do some of it when you buy game and the reason think investing is like gamefly it's a big investment you want to be able to play it exactly if you like it and it's not like necessarily a movie where you watch it once you if you really like it you might watch it a couple times but the game has a ton of replay value to or sure so it's not like by allowing people to rent games you know people are not going to then go and buy it it's a totally different dynamic don't you think that by preventing and pretty much ending all kinds of used games and sharing and stuff like that I mean I don't think I think they are severely under estimating how much of an impact this will have on people's decision to buy games at all if I'm buying a sixty-dollar game a part of me is saying hey worst case scenario finally like this thing i'm just going to trade it back in and get half my money back at the very least or sell it on ebay maybe get back ninety percent of my money that mentality is such a contributing factor to somebody buying a video game from the Gecko that i feel like that you know decision workflow has not been considered by the people potentially making these decisions to the point where tons of it yeah it's it the best advertising for the game is renting it I mean that's you get to basically try it you you'd play it for a couple days then you get to figure out if you want to buy it right same thing you're saying in terms of resale value or selling there's a lot of little markets or lots of little things that people do before they buy game that you're completely eliminating and price-wise I mean you know with with iOS or Android you know you can buy games for significantly cheaper granted it's not like on a console right but that I think that moves you know people's mentality on what the dollar value of game should be for sure seeing it a little bit with like Vita too obvious so lockdown well in terms of price and the price those games versus I'll go to the App Store buy this for this price so it's interesting I bring that up with the lockdown think as the Vita is super lockdown transferring a movie file from the computer to it is brain surgery I mean it's easy enough but it's just tedious and the workflow takes a lot of time arm but also think about it like growing up right when you were playing Nintendo or say or say whatever it was and you're like okay dude i'll come over and i'll bring them a copy of sonico plate like that is a huge part of your you're growing up and your childhood with gaming like this sort of sees that coming to an end yeah you know like that's a big deal like I'm sure you were you did stuff like that growing up like hey man bring over your copy of jet motor will race to be sick but you know you gotta be able to do that I know you know you know you want to bring your game over to some know it there's only work in the player that yet does it because that's technically a used game is to basically matches I guess with one particular console little like solidify I don't know I don't know your console oh there's also over or maybe they'll have some sort of thing where you can sign in on someone else's console and then you know pop that out yeah maybe that'll work i just appear i mean do you really think they'll just eliminate that you know pure sort of experience of sharing against i mean i think that the bigger question and we're talking about this a little bit before is why why are they doing this is it is it do they feel like it's going to generate more revenue in terms of that or is it strictly you know a means to further lock it down because i don't want it to be hacked I think it's the latter because as we've discussed you don't generate more revenue this way it what yeah and that's that's the perplexing thing about it's like why are why are they doing it can't be there they've clearly cannot think they cannot rationally think that this will equal more money they can't think that way I just I can't see that happening well yeah and I thinking because even with used games and stuff right the way it's set up now if i buy a used game from gamestop and I go home and I want play online and it's a used game that's like an EA game that requires a pass to play online I gotta pay another ten bucks that's money money being generated right there dlc stuff like that i don't think that you know piracy is definitely a problem but i think it's much more so in terms of music and movies and games it's out there but you the level of sophistication you need in order to be able to do that is much greater so I can't imagine that that's particularly hurting Sony in the video game developers enough to you know limit ordinary consumers into kind of doing some of the behaviors we discuss yeah it's really scary i feel like the second and it's not just games its books it's movies it's it's music I don't know what it was like the second when that you were able to buy something that wasn't tangible that wasn't in your hand right the second like this CD is gone and it's just zeros and ones on a drive somewhere we lost of right we lost like a possession alike it's all rented now and it's all sort of virtual at me personally I think the future of games right now is like subscription-based stuff I think like what call of duty does how they have like the elite membership where it's like 50 bucks a year and you're a call of duty player for 50 bucks a year you're gonna get all this continued follow up digital content you're going to get all that but it's for a price of a year and that sort of just eliminates use games because no one like wants to give away game once they remember right you know I feel like that's where we're going whether or not that's the right way you know I mean what do you think about that I don't think that's completely unreasonable actually the worst thing especially if you're you're you're signing up with the expectation that you're going to get new content it's going to be in hand it's going to be in maps for sure I think that I think that subscription sort of thing that's probably the lesser of two evils yeah I mean there's development time that has to go into making those model for sure so I don't have a problem with that especially if you could sign in on your home console or and then go to a friend's house and be able to do it there yeah i mean that's reasonable it's interesting tell us what you think 866 for 4 cm