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Brian Tom whoa whoa that was a mistake but he just called me hot I think I well I was trying to say like podcasts or son no no you're trying to say hot just admit it I i I've here hot hoes I've heard that from both sides of the fence I am completely comfortable with who I am and I embrace it all nice bring it thank you and my hot co hostess with the mostess producer up out even beat him in the house all right everybody this is apple byte extra crunchy episode 21 21 a nice number also just to let you know before the break we will be doing our prediction show today so we're going to start off with a few headlines and then get to our predictions of the year and then you won't hear from us for a few weeks because we'll be on vacation will be at CES and then when we work we will return to our normally scheduled programming yes correct host CES is going to drain us if we survive we will survive so let's just get to some stories we only have a few here to go over and then we'll jump into our predictions but we talked about it last week how 60 minutes was doing a profile behind the scenes on Apple showing inside their laboratory where they designed that amazing smart case battery that we all obviously know and love it's a it holds a very dear near and dear place in my heart it's very special near the trash can so a lot of people on the internet we're watching this video and in one of the shots one of the interviews there was a a macbook in the background that was kind of angled differently and kind of weird and people were like what is that like it people were they didn't know it didn't look it really didn't look like a 12 inch ultra thin but it still looked like an ultra-thin in the way it was angled made people wonder is that is that is that the new macbook air i'm pro 15-inch retina Apple has gone on the record and told tech insider it is not but people literally freaked out and if you look at the pictures you can check out tech insider if you're watching us right now you could see that it looks a little different but there's I'm shocked that people can see that kind of stuff you know it's just since in the background I think the proportions threw them off based on the picture it does look very 15 ish I've got to admit but there is no way Apple is going to just leave new hardware laying around in fact when they went to the lab they covered like tons of their tables with with big ol whatever sheets or they're all covered in these like bagel tarps so you couldn't see what was going on so anyways if you got excited that's not it although if you tilt it at an angle that's my that might be what it looks like also just to get people really excited believe this one nowhere else fr posted a video recently what was purported to be an iphone 7 like from a factory and it looks totally fake in it actually actually looks too well produced and it's funny because the person's wearing the gloves like in Foxconn or something you know so it's like I don't know but I was studying this very closely you're studying the video really closely yeah what it what did you find in your mind I'm looking I'm looking for a port like what ports there are 0 and then someone screams hey it's so rehearsed yeah it's so fake dude has the white gloves has like a body suit and you here at the end some would say hey and then the person like puts away this is not the iphone 7 though the reason why people like jump to conclusions this is the first phone it had kind of a generic iphone looking back factory service but there's no home screen button on it so then people like I'm thinking to get rid of the home the whole button they're not this is all fake right now it's Christmas it's the gift that keeps on giving and we're just getting fake stuff right now it is funny though we gotta do that we why don't we make a stupid you know fake iphone 7 video maybe it'd be pretty easy actually yeah very easy these days and the name of the youtube channel that that posted it to was called wet let me see the youtube channel was called oh yeah viral video lab wow that's not real viral video lab is the youtube channel not real trying to be viral it's fake that's funny um also I think that you would like this to ray mr. Beecham apple once again rumored to be developing a high resolution audio format this is according to Macotakara at this weekend's portable audio festival in tokyo according to several sources familiar with Apple whose products are shown off at this festival the company has been developing a high res audio streaming plat basically what a codec or format up to 96 kilohertz mmm 24-bit Wow for 2016 man that's gonna that's gonna eat up your hard drive now this is what's going on the Lightning terminal with iOS 9 right the Lightning what it's capable of pushing is compatible up to 192 kilohertz at 24 bit wow so this to me logically leads to something we might talk about in our predictions if lightning is able to handle this if Apple is potentially developing a high res audio streaming format does this point to even more information that they are going to get rid of the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack definitely does yes this is more clues through the little bit of bread crumbs just down there yeah I mean 192 i Nev I don't even record music at 192 it's too big and it takes a long time for a session to open you know like if you open in Pro Tools all the tracks pop up it takes like 10 minutes or something but I think 192 might be a little overkill is that that's what I'm gonna say is it even necessary don't get our gears interpret our ears and your ears will be able to hear a difference for sure but it's also gonna weigh down your hard drive like it's gonna take forever to sync songs and to even just transfer songs I mean that's a big file so I record a 48 uh-huh maybe 88 occasionally but 48 is like the way you know 48 the easiest i have a question could someone be able to tell the difference through their ear buds that they listen to oh yeah I think so I think so even through through little earbuds yeah yeah that Willie expression in the new ones the new ones are really sound great so you can hear a difference i can tell the difference between a wav and mp3 easily well because you're Stephen Beecham well you know haha it's just you know just is big so much fuller it just sounds a lot heavier and fuller you know so Apple has their uh uncompressed what oh my gosh off the top McKenzie they have their yeah they have their own audio file format that it's not called Apple play but they gave their own little clever name to their audio format people can remind me right we always have our periscope errs this is just like when I was talking about exit at the gift shop oh yeah and I couldn't I couldn't remember off the top of my head cuz we're just flowing but out the beauty of a chat room who knows who knows if we'll see this but again these are bread crumbs that are pointing to maybe Apple really ditching the 30 point five millimeter headphone jack yeah I still don't see about this could be crazy mizzen could be crazy okay and then finally just a little quick story facebook for iOS as of today it'll be a rollout they're gaining support for iphone 6s live photos so you could post your live photos through the facebook app and then people who have their phones if they hold on to it they'll actually be able to see that play those animated photos that's cool it's kind of neat i'm kind of surprised they didn't already have this but you know all good it's cool they finally integrated the integrated the photos into it so that's cool ok so really you know it's a short week it's the holiday season starting up not too much apple news going on but we know what's most important to you all did predictions that's why you came here predictions for 2016 my people so well kind of well i guess what kind of what's get them in the mood a little bit yeah because you know it's me as V Nostra Tongass oh man hello where's my lightning I'd you have your lightning better yeah I used to have that from puss out loud so every year we do predictions we're gonna do it on extra crunchy because guess what the show is extra crunchy so I have a general statement do you have a general statement for next year or would you like me to start off you start we'll just go about how about we just go back and forth you start and then all of your mind does we have our bold predictions but I'm gonna start with a general statement about 2000 and which I'm gonna call it 2016 he okay yes so what I feel like I really feel like 2016 Apple is going to have a relatively flat year for Apple I'm going to turn on the music a little bit oh there's a lightning a relative I feel like this year they had a rel know but that's why I'm saying next year will be even flatter and this is why okay we were like hoping I was a ref eternal music sure I'm starting to get strike it was good for a second and then I'm like I'm like I thought I would feel bad for people that have to listen that the whole time it just right looking back I can't listen to this anymore so look this year was supposed to be really like the biggest year for Apple they released a new Apple TV they released a new product platform and Apple watch they released the ipad pro they had apple music i'm not gonna talk about a smart battery case that doesn't count but these are and also right we have iphone success with 3d touch okay yeah these are all props most of those products were first-timers for Apple none of them exploded none of them took over like the public consciousness like the general consumer and took them by storm so you're like okay I cuz when I was ready for 2015 I actually thought it would be one of the most exciting years we'd seen from Apple in a long time really the thing that got me the excited most was for personal reasons but I know most people don't care ipad pro and then 3d touch those are the two coolest things about it but the Apple watch is a half baked product we've talked about the apple TV is a half baked product it's not complete even arguably the ipad pro is a half baked product not complete okay yeah so then I like fast forward into what could be coming into 2016 and why do I think it might be a flat year well there's a few make-it-or-break-it things that are going to happen for Apple for 2016 and these are what I put out one Make It or Break It moment 4 2016 will be apples live TV service a will we see it be how much will it cost if it costs basically 50 40 50 bucks just like every other cable service no one's gonna care there's going to be nothing different about it no sling offers an open package starting at 20 bucks a PlayStation view starts a package at like 50 bucks but again if Apple is doesn't offer anything compelling that's it's going to be like okay fine Apple TV Live service macbook air 15 inch with display like an ultra-thin macbook 15-inch that might be arguably the most exciting product from a hardware cited for Apple fans but is it going to take over the world by storm I don't think so just because it's thinner know right okay the third one Apple watch to write the second generation of their Apple watch they have a lot of work to do when I think about what they could do adding Wi-Fi to it making it thinner having the same maybe has a few extra health sensors that's not going to blow up so those three things that should be the key moments for Apple next year don't sound very appealing to me and again they just rolled out like three new platforms last year so it's not like we're gonna see a bunch of new toys this year yeah I I'm not trying to be a debbie debbie downer i'm just kind of giving people the real story we know that the iphone 7 will come out but we know every year the iphone drives most of their business so that those numbers that percentage of whatever it is like sixty or seventy percent of apples business is going to be driven by the iphone that's always going to be the case even if the iphone 7 is like has this all-new design it's gonna have 3d touch it's gonna have a different screen potentially it might get rid of a headphone jack it's still going to produce about the same numbers of what we seen from past iphone so from an excitement level I don't think we're gonna see anything really innovative from Apple I think it's just that business as usual and this year was really supposed to be that year but it didn't happen I thought this year was supposed to be the innovative OMG here but it just didn't happen yeah that's where I'm at that's why I'm saying I think apple will have a relatively flat year in 2016 they're just gonna update all their toys at the yes and it's gender big update general updates and then completing the products that were kind of half-baked but they've lost a lot of momentum because of that right yeah that's where I'm at I don't know about you guys but that's where I'm at is Apple losing their mojo I know we've been saying this for a year but they are they are losing their mojo I think they've lost their mojo every year just a little by little by little and I do feel like 2016 is going to be the first year where we really feel like where's the innovation because I look around and I see what Microsoft was doing Microsoft in 2015 was the innovator of 2015 in my time hollow hollow lens surface book surface pro like exam those that's what they're working with apples like we made a bigger iPad like you know so and it's frustrating mean people again I'll i have mostly apple products i love tech but if everyone talks about apples leader of innovation there there I don't know if they can show me that the leader of innovation next year they could surprise us they could what I'm just saying I think now these days more people are surprised by new products what if Apple came out with a VR product are we gonna be surprised no oculus has it Samsung Galaxy gear I'm sorry Samsung's gear VR Microsoft is doing Hollins like that's not gonna surprise us yeah Apple car is still roughly 20 20 even if the Apple put out a car people still Tesla still has that name there right now Oh Tesla right as its vessel is like polished and yeah can I mean that's a product so I don't know I'm just saying think about it this is not hey donation this is just let's think about really what do we have in store for us next year's like iphone 7 ipad air three incremental skylake processors that's important for just processing in general everyone else is going to have that Apple music will probably evolved they might make more money off of Apple music right or subscribers yeah Apple will make more money but will they really truly innovate they're gonna they're really gonna have to show me something next year I don't know they're busy building their fortress in cupertino so yeah they are and you're sitting on two hundred billions of dollars of cash coming out of there but but but uh did I just like completely take the air out of you Steven no not at all i have i have some predictions to did it were those all your predictions that's my general i actually have my our probation going but that's my general statement for 2016 i see it's kind of disappointing to me quite honestly quite this point okay how about i've talked so much i would like to hear from you we steve and i both came up with kind of some predictions of the year right yeah i wrote 330 cake you wrote a few so you so i want to hear yours start with you first and you know you can okay i know i need i need the no shirt okay let's say yeah let's get warm a little bit with our eyes ok so my number one prediction is that the iphone 7 will get rid of the eighth in the eighth inch connector as we previously predicted or others have and the media is predicted and we will be we all be sad about it for a short period of time right well i'll be bummed out but we'll get over it and then I think that the iphone 7 will have not one but two lightning big vectors in the bottom you're going with a double I think it's gonna have to so that you know you have one for your headphone one for charging and also you can open up options to have a monitor connected other thing you know so that is my major bold prediction for the iphone 7 and 2016 my-my for one of my predictions is exactly that they will although I don't want it Apple will get rid of the headphone jack yes they were all gonna be sad we're gonna get over it it's just like when people were sat on Twitter that they replaced the star for the heart yes you're gonna get over it no one talks about that and when the DVD replaced the VHS tape everyone was bummed they're like I have all these VHS tapes what I'm going to do with them ya know people gonna be sad for like because also the adapters gonna sell let you use your headphones yes but this whole apple lightning and this whole Apple working a new hire hi res audio format all these things and apples planted the seeds long ago with their made for iphone program or made for AI program it's going to happen yeah that's all pointing there and we saw how Apple was the first to get rid of the floppy disk right yeah Apple now with their new ultra thin macbook 12-inch removed all ports except for a u.s. day I think that has one USB port it basically like to I can't remember up Tom and like an audio port and a single USB port yes and when like we're almost completely done away with even having optical drives on computer I've to right is a bummer yeah you know I still use this occasionally no it's true it uh yeah so apples push some of that let's just get rid of something people will adjust to us because we're Apple in it has happened no how's work pretty decently even the whole remember when Steve Jobs like so anti flash yes and people were like mad about that well we don't really use flash anymore it's all html5 it's true well some sites still use flash but I'm not gonna mention them he's oh he was also against a stylist we still don't use the stylus we use a pen and that's true that should we use a pencil gotta make sure we got to get that corrected to pencil so okay that that is I that was one of my predictions as well cool though um what how about since we shared that same one how about your next one okay so my second prediction let me get my notes or tongs music back I predict that Apple release a standalone Apple watch that does not require the phone but will require an LTE data contract and it will do facetime I think that they'll have facetime built in there but uh you know that's a very bold one hopefully Apple fans have been listening to all of I think his apples been listening to all its customers you know and immediately when it came out everyone's like if its standalone I might buy it but if it's if I have to use my phone then it's kind of worthless to me so I like that I I didn't really put an apple watch prediction on mine because I think they're just going to iterate it I am just gonna I think that because the battery life on that is really couldn't handle a 3g connection I think they're not gonna do it okay I was disappointed they didn't do it from the start yes because as everyone was yeah as everyone was you know there's there's a several android-based watches that have their own cellular connection yes and yeah you have to pay for it but at least you have the option yeah so I would like to see the face time though come on that watch just for just purely for fun yeah whether you use it or not the fact that it that's that's one of the things that Apple used to do they would have this charming feature on it that people wouldn't really always use but the fact that it existed no one else had it and you could use it kind of made you use it a little more yeah so I use face him all the time so it just makes sense like why not have in the watch so it's even more convenient you know I just still can't stand those people that I've seen walk by me talking into their wrist pretty embarrassing like it you're gonna lose major cool points that's all you're gonna lose cool points total dick tracy stuff yep ok here's my here's my hey here's one of my fun bold predictions Apple is going to piss off fans and release an apple TV 4k next year and we'll finally get it's live TV service but it won't be different from any of the other carriers that have locked down the deal so apples goal of trying to make an exclusive package that's twenty or thirty dollars that would truly save consumers money you have to think about this Apple isn't in the business for saving consumers money no so they're not going to be motivated by that and the network late networks and content carriers also want to make money yeah so I think that this deal that happens that gets done it's just going to be the standard ala carte kind of basic passage package pricing will might be maybe a five dollar difference instead of a ten or twenty dollar difference but it won't people might rave about it because it's on Apple TV because mainstream media doesn't talk about sling TV mainstream media doesn't talk about playstation view but they'll talk about Apple TV so to get a lot of publicity yeah but it's not gonna be any different I do really think that they'll just do a jerk move and piss people off and just release a new Apple TV in here mm-hmm I don't know why it's happened before yeah it's happened before right what is that wasn't that the year you got an ipad has won six months later later I was like what I was like all right so that I'm just we're just this is a prediction show we're just throwing out stuff out there it's for fun yeah so that that's what I that's what I'm that's one of my brains thinking yeah and uh just so everyone is aware all you need to do is go buy an antenna for like 30 40 bucks yeah then you get all the free television you want in HD and it looks awesome it actually looks better it's all your local rate from the you know it's straight from the signal so it's all your local network television stations when we used to do it in the old days with the rabbit ear antennas they have HD antennas at stores i set one up in my old apartment years ago and you can get all the networks the basic networks like the big you know Fox CBS NBC ABC you know those will be all there just antenna and then you can buy these extra packages for the cable pal plans through this digital subscription a la carte ish not truly a la carte but um you can you can make it happen and save you know you could save around it's free money but yeah it's awesome if you love sports though it's hard that's why I've never been able to do it that's the thing sports but Sports is on all the big networks you know so someone golf football baseball so yeah you can go that way if you're down okay do you have did you have one more yeah let me see my last prediction I predicted that in 2016 we will see our first glimpse of the Apple car maybe in a commercial or on a stage at a keynote just a glimpse tiny glimpse like they've been hinting at it this year I think they're gonna like give us a little little more of a hint next year um you know cuz like cars and apps apps and cars is huge right now it's like the biggest thing right now our cars are becoming our entertainment center of us you know like you leave your your entertainment center at home and get into an entertainment center and go wherever you want to go and all the traveling apps you know navigation stuff so Apple is way behind and I think that they're going they have to do something just to get everyone's attention well that that leads up to my next prediction Apple will build their own hoverboard they will not they will i I'm just I just made that up that's not why never Rex is dead so why wouldn't let you know I saw that someone made a mock-up of an apple drone and it was full of tons of people and it look kind of cool it was like oh my gosh yeah we're making a dress so crazy look like Apple will I don't know if it's this coming year I actually now that we're talking about that just free-flowing I wouldn't be surprised if Apple came out with some not a VR goggles headset or anything like that but I want to be surprised in maybe let's say not in 2016 but 2017 once a VR figures itself out I wouldn't be surprised of apple released some sort of product that's an accessory to capture VR video oh yeah for sure because yeah they're gonna wait for this whole market to itself down and figure it out and then they're gonna add something or their iphone will have the ability to capture VR video it's going to be something like that I have some 360 camera on it so that you could contribute to the whole VR movement I would love that I would totally get an iOS VR camera there's already products i think it's rico that makes one that's just like a little handheld thing that you can hold and it's literally it and it's like the size of like a I don't know maybe an old ipod shuffle from back in the day the white wine and you just hold and walk around it captures audio in 360-degree HD video that's badass it's already out it's like 300 400 bucks or something nice why not Apple just do something like that and just do it okay yes by the real quick yesterday at her secret santa party Jason stole my gift which is Star Wars thing right that's right this is inside baseball guys sorry but uh I had a Star Wars toy that I got that the secret santa party and one of my friends stole her from me and the gift that he had was um lenses for an iphone yes macro lens wide angle lens and all that stuff and I'm loving it yeah it's like totally stoked he was all bummed out and I'm like oh my god lunch kit yeah so I mean if they can build a 3 3d lens or something that we dope okay um the last thing my last prediction here nothing bold but this year was allegedly supposed to be the year of the smartphone SmartWatch right yes I think next year will allegedly be the year of the mobile wallet I feel like mobile payments are finally going to be at least a thing and what I mean by that is Apple pay has been around a couple of years ago I've been around a couple years now Samsung is finally getting their Samsung pay figured out we are now at the point where we have enough point-of-sale displays the business deals are in place that we're gonna really start using our phones more like mobile wallets so I'm just gonna call next year it's either going to be the year of VR and VR porn or the mobile wallet right on i would love to use my mobile wallet for VR born yeah vr porn tube ivr porn hahaha when yeah yeah I'm looking forward to that I mean I I can't do it now cuz i have an iphone 5 but oh my yeah okay set me down we were 27 just wait for the seven I gotta get on board wait for the seven probably right now might as well as wait for the seven how far away is the seven you think another way sep tember ish September oh that's a long way further for the record my mom finally upgraded from an iphone 4 thanks to an iphone success this weekend with us that's five generations of phones people she might as well been chiseling with like a hammer in a nail into into like the walls or something wow so she was really happy about how does she cook dinner she rubs sticks together to make fire we do that uh we've actually evolved to using magnifying glasses and a tilting them based on the light to start a fire that way cool that works as well nice all right I do you have any other predictions that's it all right three that those are those are our kind of bold / semi-realistic / fun predictions for the year but now it's your turn we asked you guys to send your predictions your calls so I'm going to hit a few of your calls and kind of ruminate and see what you guys all thought as well that we could expect from Apple 2016 alright let's listen to some phone calls hey guys it's Michael calling so now what I think is going to be introduced like to the Apple world in 2016 as much as I don't want this to happen and I like the magsafe adapters for the mat for the macbooks I think apple is going to start introducing more USBC cables or the adapters and stuff to the macbook air line that was rumored to be coming out like a refresh so that's my prediction of 2016 and also you did a great cover of I can't feel my face I just want to let you know that I love this show thanks hey we got we got we got to celebrate when someone gives us props for a music video yeah we got to celebrate it it was fun it was super fun doing that super fun in response the USBC yeah I mean I think that as USBC is starting to become a actually used it's it's been around but now company is starting to integrate it into their products I wouldn't be surprised if we see like a USB see art you know maybe one but I don't think we're gonna all sudden see like two or three or anything like that Apple's removing ports they're not adding ports and then Apple still really stuck on their whole lightning port you know they they put together that standard and that's their proprietary cable and all that blah blah mumbo-jumbo so I don't think they're gonna get rid of it anytime soon though no it still feels new yeah it's still totally feels game so I don't think so either okay next call hello this is a line from Houston Texas and my prediction for next year for Apple I think that so the next iPhone I think there they are in the ditch the 3.5 headphone jack so yeah I love your show h town and I you see your lady ace town in the house in the house represent Houston represent yeah he's on board with us I think that well maybe maybe Apple surprised us and they don't do it until the iphone 7s right maybe the maybe the iphone 7 is the redesign and the iphone 7 then removes the k the headphone port who knows we're just I don't know they they want to keep they always keep you just like at least a change one major thing you know faster processors for sure okay next call all right hi I'm Mark Robinson from a smooth Virginia my tech protection for 2016 Apple would say sorry for sorry podcast app and put it back the way it was Thank You Man amen Oh throw the bad apples sorry i just realized she's listening to ipad feel my face that's right i just heard that that's funny i didn't get her name off the top of my head but i'll get it back we agree with you ma'am young lady hi I'm mark Oh Robert Margot Margot Margot Robinson Margot we're on board with that she called it the sorry podcast app this is totally sorry how about the fact that it's still on the iPad you can't watch video podcast full screen in addition to the fact that is just a mess I know and that's I mean I pads are made for consumption of video practically I can't oh wow I can't I can't feel my face right now okay last call all right hey what's going on btz was going on beach him this is a chamar from atlanta just wanted to give my prediction for 2016 i think we talked about this a little bit as far as Apple doing a peer-to-peer I think they'll finally get that situated in 2016 them probably do it via Apple pay do that a little fingerprint sensor and everything so that you can do peer-to-peer payments I think they'll finally bring back the bump I don't know if you guys remember that is where it didn't like a fist bump and orders share contacts and photos so but that's my prediction hope you guys are having a good talk hey Patrick a chamar bringing the call Apple's paid app a pure bump bump bump I remember I remember trying to bump with a lot of girls but rejected every time I think I used that bump thing one time to send a picture or something to my used a bump I think I used a bump for a skit like a skit and then we got rid of and then I never used again yeah was like it had its moment it was it was silly oh and then I realized quickly i'm like why do i have to be next to someone and touch someone to send them something yeah so ridiculous it is it is silly but um doing their whole Apple launching out that peer-to-peer payment yes like kind of piggybacking on the fact that I think that 2016 will be the year of the mobile wallet mobile payment thingamajigger I think we're gonna get there I think we're gonna get there yeah I hope so it's just so much better so mm-hmm alright Beecham I think that we are good to go for 2015 are we done we're wrapping up 2050 we are wrapping up 2015 here on the apple byte extra crunchy so guys gals thanks so much for hanging with us thanks for allowing the show to grow we'll be back here next year give us a couple weeks back on track enjoy your time Happy Hanukkah kwanzaa Merry Christmas Happy Holidays we got to cover all bases right yeah we gotta got love for every everybody but her buddy all right that's gonna do it for the apple byte we will see you guys next time peace