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and welcome to the crave cast it is May 20th 2014 I am Eric Mack in Taos New Mexico creative contributor and I'm joined by Michael Franco who is calling in from North Carolina and I believe they're in the studio in San Francisco we have got Steven Beecham Bonnie Burton and Kelsey Adams you guys all there oh yeah all right excellent so we're running this for the first time out of the the big studio clicks there so it's kind of cool to see all that in effect and Michael's got the blue door rock in there as well so glad we could all be here we're coming up on Memorial Day weekend and the traditional beginning of summer which means we are not too far from comic-con and a whole bunch of Hollywood blockbusters and the great summer geekiness that we always expect when the temperatures warm a bit so what we did here is we've we've picked about nine or ten of the upcoming summer geeky blockbusters that were most anticipating some we might not be completely anticipating we're gonna go around and talk about them really quick if you guys want to get in on the conversation go ahead and tweet a question or a comment too at crave and we'll be monitoring those and that we can get your questions and comments on the air here as they come in so real quick preview were gonna be talking about in rough order of release Godzilla x-men Days of Future past Maleficent transformers age of extinction the sink the signal guardians of the galaxy edge of tomorrow dawn of the Planet of the Apes Lucy and maybe a little Batman bonus at the end if we have time so that's what we're working on here so first up Godzilla this is the only one of these movies that's out right now came out last week on Friday and did insane like boot Quyen and dollars all over the place and they've already announced for sugar that they're gonna be doing a sequel to this coming up which i do not think is is any surprise and i won't tell you why because that would spoilers but let's go ahead and go what do you guys think start with Bonnie Burton and Kelsey and Steven they're in the studio you guys going to see this are you excited for it what do you think I'm a huge Godzilla fan I've heard so many mixed reviews about Godzilla that it's it's like okay it's like it's like 90% relationship issues with humans that no one cares about and 10% monsters so that's a problem with a lot of monster movies I find that we you know but I don't know I'll go see it because I love gods Ellen anything I mean I watch the Godzilla cartoon so I eat Godzilla cereal I'll do anything with Godzilla's showed up on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills I would watch that show so especially especially if he ruins all of their homes I would watch that so I all watch that I don't I don't really care if it's it's crap or not so if anything I'll just pretend it's Breaking Bad sequel yeah Bryan Cranston is the star which is one of the few things I think I'm actually excited about what do you think he'll see um well what I wanted to say was actually in response to something that I think Michael Franco is gonna bring because an article about this about Bryan Cranston yeah Time magazine where he said that what drew him to doing this I mean it's his first big picture after his after Breaking Bad and he said that what drew him to doing this was the fact that Godzilla is so boy he basically said Godzilla makes no apologies and just goes around crushing stuff and that's very boy and that's what he liked him as a kid now and I actually did see it this weekend and I'd say it's more like 50/50 monsters to human pretty good I may even go see it again really well so what drew you in the human story or just the pure destruction um definitely not the human story if anything I think the acting was a little bit light but the the way the destruction is handled sort of there's moments where it's you know like things go silent and there's kind of this moody atmospheric background I think it was handled really really artfully instead of just you know there's big crush and destroy kind of movie it was handled in in a really artful artfully way artful way I heard that there's a lot more new monsters to actually isn't there like I heard that Godzilla was just a small portion there's a lot of other new monsters well this would be a spoiler alert if I see if I say ear muffs ear muffs everybody ear Muppet there's that there's only two other monsters there's a very low spoiler threshold on this one I think to even reveal kind of the role that Godzilla plays is a spoiler right Michael can I just interrupt at this point and completely derail the conversation so so Michael when when you posted that thing about bring Bonnie retweeted this very cute cartoon on Twitter this one yeah the artist is Panda porch by the way she's great and that little kid meets like a girl to me and I just say yes okay that's a girl that's what I'm seeing he's wanting to be outrageous wanting to stomp around and be obnoxious and rude and destructive and rampage like yeah so it's not a boy thing that's a human thing and they tell us it's a boy thing but actually Godzilla is for everyone yeah I have to agree with that that's that's one of those things that I thought with all geek culture I think we're at a point now that we don't have to do the fake geek girl discussion anymore at least I hope not but little girls like monster movies little girls like Star Wars little girls like Star Trek little girls like Godzilla we don't have to keep saying this is guys only kind of give a more universal sense about why we like Godzilla so much you know the monsters always coming you know that nature is always coming I think that's you know probably more well the funny things my people like that so the funny thing too is if you watch all the original Godzilla films there's always a little there's usually a little girl and all of them and then if you watch the more modern-day ones there's always a fighter pilot that's a girl so there are women in these well maybe not our movies but they're all the no Godzilla movies that are from the sick 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s they all have female characters that are pretty strong female characters so especially little girls and I mean if you are a fan of Mothra you know that there's twin girls that are kind of authors keeper so know you're Godzilla what there is a girl monster how can you tell I feel like please don't tell me there's it matters to them please don't tell me there's a bra on one of them because I would be really upset if that's how you tell Godzilla remember when transformers did that wasn't there a female transformers and wasn't she was she paint I can't remember anyway sorry but that's a good segue what about Bonnie and Kelsey Steven you guys gonna see this one or wait for Netflix or what what Godzilla Godzilla yeah I don't know I don't like disaster movies to be honest but that in no way invalid it's my point I want to go but it doesn't cause like $100 for IMAX now I don't remember like $20 for popcorn $30 for soda I don't if I can kick-start it I'll go well the next one next movie on her list is one that I know I would definitely spend $30 on popcorn for this one and that's x-men Days of Future past which is I mean this isn't when it comes to the movies we're looking at this is kind of the all-star team of the summer I think you got Patrick Stewart and Sir Ian McKellen I mean I'm sold at that point before you even bring in Hugh Jackman and everyone else so it's got it's got time travel in it it's got some more origin stories particularly professor Eck's think I think I'm not sure what do you guys think is this on your list it's definitely on mine it's so excited yeah it feels like x-men Boogie Nights I mean I know it's not about the same thing book net was but anytime I see something with the 70s or 60s anything set in the past what is this timeline is that 60s or 70s 70s 70s yeah it's just a first class of 60 I think it's the lapels in the long hair I I'm excited for this I think there's gonna be good witty banter I think that's a good thing with x-men is even though it's it can be depressing and heavy at times there's always that possibility for jokes and especially with Wolverine involved but I'm excited for the cast and I'm excited for the story we'll see all the Marvel movies have done a really good job of drawing that a great great cast and especially what the one we'll talk about later with the guardians of the galaxy also a great cast also what a woody banner there must be something I don't know if there's something with the Marvel team or what but I agree completely yeah no I mix I'm excited for that like I think it's gonna be fun III don't know we'll see it's funny because it's great to see all these comic book based movies coming out all at once so I'm really looking forward to x-men because I mean I've always loved a series and partly for me and I think for most people probably the one of the big things about the x-men story the way it's been shown is that it's kind of saying everyone can be special like all the weird kids are actually special you know you feel - I do you feel too smart but every professor X's at home for you you know whereas in the the Marvel movies and the shield show that I've been watching and been loving but there's definitely this undercurrent that only a few people are really the heroes and anyone else is just dangerous yeah like you think you're special but you're wrong you diluted you need to be taken down yeah so it's really nice for me to get back to here and be like hey everyone in this preview is flying around yeah you know everyone's jumping around they've all got costumes this is gonna be great yeah I mean what do you think is a unanimous you agree Michael I do yeah I definitely agree with that and I'm definitely gonna see the movie just because of the you know what it's about and you know I think it's gonna be a spectacle but I I tend I'm not looking forward to it as much as other x-men movies because time-travel movies kind of freak me out I think I'm too literal that couldn't happen you can't do that I'm Welch I'm well trained and ignoring that because of Doctor Who that's a great reference yeah Mystery Science Theater is sci-fi just don't pay attention to much it's so fine I remember getting into really heavy arguments with my college buddies about The Simpsons about stuff and then we had to stop for a minute and go oh wait a minute a cartoon it's not real it's a cartoon supposed to care that they don't age ever it's just you know you're gonna go on with the steel endoskeleton you got to go along alright I think we're unanimous x-men there the next one on our list I'm not quite sure about this that's Maleficent this is coming out May 30th and it's kind of Disney's creepy take on Sleeping Beauty and this is also an origin story it's actually the origin story of Maleficent who's that mean evil stepmother in the Sleeping Beauty tale it's kind of like as far as I can tell this is kind of like what wicked creepy or is it whitewashed you know I don't know Angelina Jolie look at her she those cheekbones are awesome is that digitally enhanced she's got some makeup issues it's all her teeth are always pretty I mean that's Hollywood nobody has real teeth there but those can't be real no they're they're prosthetic that yeah this whole thing is a CGI I imagine her cheek no there's a real castle that's a real Prague right that's all Prague that's she almost looks a little too powerful in this trailer it looks like she can just flick her finger and pretty much do anything she wants again that's the point when a character gets that powerful and I'm gonna have this comment again about Lucy yeah it starts to become you know I don't know unrealistic if you can apply that to a movie like this I don't know I love her in this and I love her wings i love that they make her like a Valkyrie almost like she I'm excited for this movie one cuz Angelina Jolie I think is just owning it I mean look at that look at that mean girl smile she's great and and I think that the story is gonna be really fun I don't think it's gonna be a kids movie which is gonna be interesting to see how many little girls and little boys that watch this are kind of nightmares for the rest of their lives and it is you know Kelsey you were saying did they kind of whitewash the story and from what I understand it is kind of like trying to make her a little bit of a sympathetic character who was just she had a bad childhood and so did that with Darth Vader I mean come on I mean every bad villain has not all villains are born evil a lot of them were made evil and I think that this is a I'm excited for this but the funny thing the backstory on this is I can't remember which character I but this when the little girl is super small her own daughter had to play this role because when they auditioned small children to act with Angelina Jolie when she was all had all of her makeup and prosthetics on they all cried and ran from the room so the only little girl who did it was her own because she knew that was her mom behind all that so her kids make an appearance in this film which is kind of interesting Entertainment Weekly I think did a story on that so I I'm just excite a big fan of Disney fairy tale type stuff so I'm I'm stoked for this I don't know maybe it's just because I'm goth ins like off side just wants to see Angelina Jolie be evil I'm not going to see it in in protest because in fact not only am I not gonna see it I have to basically hide the fact that there's a Sleeping Beauty moody movie for my six-year-old this is gonna be too scary for her so I'm gonna express solidarity in it you can't wait for Cinderella you can wait Cinderella teaser trailer just came out this I think this is really reboot it's hahaha nice one the teaser trailer the reason I'm laughing at reboot because that's a shoe pun as all they did and I hate teaser trailers for this very teaser trailers usually just show the spinning logo or they do have beaten switch where they make you think it's gonna be a horror film but thence the Muppets it's like maybe stuff like that right but this was just a picture of there's no spoilers here by the way it was just a revolving image of CGI glass slippers which look very strippery' were not 8-inch heels they were not cha-cha heels these are cha-cha heels I feel like this is step up to or something like well maybe not I mean oh no Barbie didn't exactly wear sensible shoes that's that it's a minute long minute of shoot it's like a really long Jimmy Choo ad to Jax I do want to know actually I might do some recon because I want to know who designed those shoes because if it was an actual Jimmy Choo you type right probably smart anyway anyway yeah look how high that heel is oh my god and look how the angle is for your foot those are Betty Page shoes yeah those are and then the little butterfly lands on it yeah it's a butterfly killer okay anyway sorry we're skeptical of all fairy tales we're so judgmental well here we can we can fix that a little bit with the next movie that's a next one transformers age of extinction and you can be cynical about the Transformers franchise and about Michael Bay but when it comes down to it it's dinosaur transformers and Mark Wahlberg I know BOTS know more you know Dinobots I haven't actually seen any of these Transformers movies are you serious I watch I love them I only saw the first one I thought the first one is good I am a horrible person because I love them all because I don't take them seriously and I was never a hardcore transformers cartoon fan I love the cartoon but those weren't exactly Citizen Kane either I rewatched the cartoons a few years ago it was kind of funny how just odd and childlike the robots are like they really don't think like humans now but then again most aliens are kind of childlike with an ant farm that's us Michael what do you think of transformers you know based on the trailer I'm definitely gonna see it it's somehow I missed the whole Transformers thing in my life like I was just like my brother who's 7 years younger than me was a huge transformer fan and had the toys and watch the cartoons and everything and I just I don't know I fell into this hole where there was no Transformers in my life so I haven't really watched the cartoons or seen the other movies but this trailer you know it looks fun I'm kind of sold on Mark Wahlberg I feel like that's an upgrade for this franchise I mean I've got a paperweight on my desk that would be an upgrade from Shia downgrade in Mark Wahlberg view and I think he's really relatively savvy about the action films he does and he's a pretty decent actor he's actually really funny to Sony's and comedies he's pretty great but you could argue there's no such thing as a 20 million dollar downgrade - here's the thing - Michael Bay is Michael Bay you can't expect him to be David Lynch she can't expect him to be Wes Anderson he is what he is and that's he's always gonna be that and if you don't like Michael Bay ask movies you probably shouldn't go see transformers this is the only part that I'm gonna see them yeah I mean he's writing one that's I know I will say especially after seeing the very first Transformers my favorite thing about transformers is the sound design oh yeah because the sound design is so dead-on brilliant so well thought out it's just it especially if you're in a theater that has a really good sound it just reverberates the whole building and it's just amazing so I really not in an obtrusive way but it just made everything happening on the screens so much more like like heavy things were heavy yeah I don't think people really give sound designers enough credit and that to me it can make or break a movie especially if you watch really crappy sci-fi movies on Netflix and the sounds is like I do sound designs not there it can ruin a whole movie it really really can so I think that's something people should you know give kudos to so we're all gonna go see this one in IMAX it sounds like if I can kick-start it yeah I can't afford IMAX maybe I'll just sit by a speaker if I can find the speaker I'll sit by it I'll come over and crush tin cans outside your window body okay cool I appreciate that tomorrow that's transformers age of extinction coming out in June so the next one on the list is kind of the oddball indie film on the list it's called the signal it's starting Laurence Fishburne and I watch the trailers and I look for as much information online as I could and I still can't really tell you what this movie is about all I know is that it involves hackers and waking up imprisoned in the desert and some kind of conspiracy theories I was kind of interested in it because it was filmed here in New Mexico and actually here in Taos where I'm sitting right now and yeah that's much else about it it's kind of intriguing it's a Sundance movie like I said it's it's indie do you guys know anything about this that I don't you've said everything I know yeah I don't I don't really know anything about it like I didn't hear any buzz about it or anything so I don't I mean it's good to see Laurence Fishburne and something other besides an insurance commercial so I'm glad you're acting again that's awesome do you want to know what the signal is now it is intriguing yeah yeah film tackles something in the sci-fi sort of realm you know looks really seeing massive reductions to see a small boat maybe a smaller budget film tackle tackle the genre and it looks really slick for there's a cow there's a cow are you sure it's about hackers and aside about alien abduction I know it looks like well it could be both but the the characters are definitely hackers well aliens are smart they would start abducting hackers and not dumb farmers that just get probed Matt grew up in Kansas and I've never met anyone that was abducted by an alien in Kansas but as soon as I moved to Colorado apparently everyone in the trailer park kept getting infected so I don't know what that means design I saw that earlier only we had the Internet okay I do like that more and more indie directors and filmmakers are trying to do sci-fi and monster films I think that's great I mean obviously district 9 was a great thing monster with Gareth who did Godzilla I mean he started off with monster so director of the signal is William Ewbank by the way okay I mean I don't know I'll probably wait till it's on Netflix or on-demand or something I don't normally go to a theater for indie films when I saw the the trailer it kind of reminded me a little bit about Europa report which is a really lesser-known indie film from last year space travel sci-fi thing that was that was really good and nobody thought it was good I was well done and it was smart and wrong so I have hopes for this based on a slight Renaissance of the indie sci-fi that I think might be doing is that the one where astronaut an astronaut was sent out and space - I miss the name well you wrote a report your report no they land on your Robo which is all right now I'm thinking of a different trailer that just came out by the way one of the things William Ewbank has done is called crave endorsement any what's really young cool so it sounds like we're waiting for Netflix on this one what do you think Michael so the next one our list I think by the way that comes out also in June the signal so another one now this one's coming out in August but I think will be worth the way there's guardians of the galaxy another Marvel one with a really super weird cast of characters well Rocket Raccoon oh yeah they're all incredibly excited about this one guy yeah it's good Chris Friday I don't even want to talk during the trailer I'm so excited I think the first trailers better than the second one what's the ball over and over whatever star-lord who star-lord man it's legendary out locked oh okay I mean these five bands and our check out the rap sheets aka the destroyer since his wife and family were killed he's been on a rampage across the galaxy in the search for vengeance Gamora soldier assassin one run over a dozen counts of murder rocket one on over 50 charges of vehicular theft and escaped from locker room it's been traveling recently as Rockets personal houseplants / muscle Peter Jason quill he's also known as star-lord he calls in that himself mostly he's wanted largely on charges of minor assaults public intoxication and fraud Paul I'm sorry I I didn't know how this machine worked so good but to me this is like channeling and Chris Pratt is like channeling Nathan Fillion from like oh yeah but he's better I'm not prefer he's doing more of a loser thing like melon Firefly was not a loser this guy's sort of a rebel and me misfit offbeat sense maybe I don't know captain Moll definitely had this misfit element to him in an angry sense of humor yeah yeah short fuse I think in a more heroic yeah I wasn't yeah I was temperamental in a different way and you know anytime you you know it's so good that they have a good mix of Americans and Brits in this - that was Peter sarin Seraph I can never pronounce his last name I know Sarah and geeks will know him as the voice of Darth Maul but he's also been and a bazillion things I mean he's a really well-known comedic actor and in the UK as well and he was also on Parks and Rec because when Chris Pratt was in London filming guardians of the galaxy that's why they had a London British episode of Parks and Rec is because they wanted to make sure Chris was still in the show while he was filming and Karen Gillan's in this - yeah Oh from Doctor Who anyway and Zooey and Peter Dinklage yeah Peter and Zoey's and everything Zoey's in every sci-fi show which I'm okay with Bradley Cooper's the voice of rocket racoon which I I don't really like him as actor by might like him now because we can't see his smug face and diesel so I I'm looking forward to this because this is the misfit sci-fi movie of the year that I've been wanting to see forever I'm actually more excited to see this than the new Star Wars when it comes out I know that's a blasphemy yeah I worked really whose phone for like a decade so I feel like I have to return my Lucasfilm card but Ari walks are gonna come for me in the night but I cannot wait for this I love the comic I've been wanting this to happen for so long it's funny cuz Star Wars sort of has an equivalent to this called Wraith squadron which has a Jackson the rabbit which is the green rabbit and Star Wars is all expanded universe expand the universe so as we know Disney's already said yeah you're not getting that movie but it's it's got like a grammar grammarian guard Jedi in it - I mean there's so many great things so I'm I'm always for misfits I'm always for animals that shouldn't be talking but our I'm just so excited for this I think it's me funny and it's gonna be witty and it's gonna be action-packed and the trailer really sold it to me that this is the one that's gonna be a little different from the other Marvel movies gonna be the one with the attitude I have nothing but faith and James Gunn I think he's a great director I'm excited that he's doing this um I think people are gonna be surprised pleasantly about this movie Joseph Smith says on Twitter that the completes our complete silence during the trailer shows that this is pretty clearly our favorite how could you tell I actually watched this trailer at least once a day now I watch all the trailers by really and then I do because I can't I'm so excited for this it gives me chills and I'm just so I'm just so thrilled it's it's when you're a jaded sci-fi fan and a jaded comic book fan like I am when you finally see something you're like oh that's how you're supposed to feel with all of these movies we're talking about unfortunately I'm actually not looking forward to this one at the risk of really all the same reasons you guys are looking forward to it like I kind of don't like comedy in my sci-fi you know I like them the more big serious you know kind of sci-fi things in the comedy just always here takes me in general I don't watch comedy movies so that's probably why this one's just not resonating with me I've tried and tried to like it but it's just not moving not a Simon Pegg fan no really my bet DC guy the like the characters look cool but I think I think the comedy is what's turning me off a little bit and and also I like like you know more of an x-men kind of fans so I like people who have powers and these characters don't look like that but there's comedy and x-men oh there's comedy x-men I mean that's what Wolverine though I mean it's funny Deadpool's just put in there to irritate Wolverine and the last movies I mean I'm still waiting for a Deadpool movie I was hoping that was gonna happen with Ryan Reynolds but who knows where that lies and that's definitely comedy because all he does all deadpool does is break the fourth wall it upset Wolverine actually had a question do I have to see the most recent Wolverine movie before I see the new x-men movie yeah that's a good question oh yeah I think people on Twitter should answer that because I honestly I don't think I think it's gonna be fine as a standalone but yeah it is a good question cuz there are things that might tie it in yeah anyway okay movie gave me come to a Galaxy Quest vibe when I when I first saw the track music hey Steven so we've got three more movies we're at 30 minutes to kill are we cool to keep going yeah yeah okay alright well I think we're three to one on guardians of the galaxy and maybe wins so another one okay so this is another one that I forget one of us was excited about this one it's called edge of tomorrow with Tom Cruise and this is basically a movie where you see Tom Cruise wearing an insane exoskeleton get killed over and over again he just and that's Emily Blunt for those wanting to know who else is in this film it's basically Starship Troopers grand Hawks day yeah so you just watch not it's funny a starship well I never saw the movie on time at the book actually okay Touche sorry no I'm not attached alright I just read the book of Link's I look at those so I have kind of mixed feelings on this one I haven't been too happy with Tom Cruise is a sci-fi attempt so I wasn't big on oblivion and I'm withholding judgment you know if I don't entirely aside from the trailer I don't know what this is about but it seems to have this oblivion theme of it and that he can get killed and keep coming back so I find it odd that he's in another movie where he gets killed and comes back well no it's the groundhog stay play you know every day you get a chance to use a clone and I guess here he actually yeah I said a clone he's just a regular dude but he has to be trained by Emily Blunt over and over and over so he can actually become a soldier and I think it's pretty funny that she keeps shooting him to start the day over because and she's the one that's the ultimate soldier which I love that that they make a female the ultimate soldier that's training him to be a soldier well there's a line in the movie where she says I'm not a soldier I'm a weapon right yeah but there's still very lengthy training montages yeah because you have to have that no Tom Cruise movie which is basically reminded me of Starship Troopers because it's like you're going up against this you know vile and looks alien over and over but what does that make you you're basically human flyswatter you're just yeah you become nothing but luckily there's no Busey in this one ship troopers have some real political overtones it's probably the most quoted sci-fi film ever like I love the humor in it I mean Michael would hate it but I know the fact that he is doing these movies where he keeps you know being reincarnated here's the thing I I Scientology is what it is I I was raised in a very religious Catholic family so to me all religion sort of has that sci-fi element to it so whether it's angels or aliens I to me it's all the same it's just a matter of what you put into your faith and Scientology is crazy controversial but Tom Cruise is an actor I think is really good and he totally commits and I don't care if he's crazy if he's a good actor and I believe him in that character I think he's great because there's a lot of really crazy actors in Hollywood religion aside and if you could put their kind of their personal life to the side and really focus on whether or not they're talented to me that's what matters if your characters are known for their intensity he does his own stunts a lot of time he's paying for a lot of these movies to be made he's producing these movies I love that he likes sci-fi just as much as he likes Mission Impossible or Jack Jerry started I don't know I don't know so I I'm glad that he does sci-fi but you are you're correct didn't some of these movies are starting to blend in so Bolivian and this could kind of be blending into each other it just makes you wonder how he makes his decisions what he's gonna do but who knows I think he just goes for it and honestly you know I I can't think of too many flops he's been in recently so I feel like a lot of this money is well spent I don't know I I'm I'm excited to see him in this I'll go see it because I I love Emily Blunt and I love this concept and I like movies that kind of warp timelines it has a good Groundhog Day fan so you know by the way if you guys like the sorry they Groundhog's Day plot there's a cop thriller with the groundhogs a plaid starting Taye Diggs Adam Baldwin from Firefly Victoria Pratt from Cleopatra 255 you can get it on Netflix it's really good I recommend it what's it called daybreak two words like daybreak but it's two words nice Adam Baldwin's another one that you have to separate person life-form acting right he's little he's horrible conservative well he's really bad at conventions and he's bad to other actors so you know but again he's really good at being Jane though yeah I mean I went to see Ender's Game even though there was all that controversy with Ender's Game so it's it's just a matter of what do you care about and what do you want to throw your money at and I don't know it's it is hard for socially responsible sci-fi fans these days she's great unfortunately since we are talking about sci-fi we don't have to bring up what yelling so anyway and so okay two more to go and I am really hoping that we will all universally pan this next one because this is my least favorite reboot I think ever and so it's the second one in the Planet of the Apes dawn of the Planet of the Apes and so this is number two after Rise of the Planet of the Apes with James Franco so now we're 15 years in the future beyond that one we don't have James Franco anymore and I think we just have this this movie is apparently just a bridge to get us to the third movie which is already in process I have no new yeah good cast though I mean the Gary Oldman was at the beginning he's timeless he's a vampire he's Dracula he doesn't need trick question yeah look at those eyes seem to anybody a little bit maybe I'm not gonna open that kind of worms you're gonna say Mel Gibson we're in No just for the record I always root for the Apes I never I never wait for the humans the humans had it coming it really does roots for the trees yeah seriously humans had it coming I these movies original movies were some of my favorite movies because the political aspects it's supposed to reflect the times they're made in and that's I mean they're they teach these original plan the Apes movies and social history classes a lot of times in college because they reflect directly with social injustice and they used to be great and I mean they weren't the special effects weren't there clearly but they were believable now I don't know if that is still in those movies or if they're just kind of sci-fi horror films now I don't know if they still have a political message so I I might go see it I might I don't think I'll go see it in a theater like I'm out I don't know saying I'll wait for Netflix is such a lazy cop-out because I watch everything on that place I mean it doesn't matter so it's true so I'll still watch I just don't throw money on it I don't know what do you guys think so you'll watch it instead of sleeping how do you how do you pan something as a movie fan when you pretty much watch everything anyway I just won't go out of my way to see it but if it's on Netflix I'll watch it so I don't know what that makes me passive ly caring I don't know normal this it's because didn't Tim Burton direct one of them yeah Marky Mark mark mark I'll never call him Mark director Matt Reeves who's also done oh well if you want that I don't know it's not that it really matters Felicity part of the robot crew under siege to dark territory that's terrible Oh No so was anyone interested in this what did you think Michael I'm not interested especially since James Franco's not a that who shares my last name keeps doing a bunch of other stuff though I think he has another movie that's coming out that he wrote the screenplay I mean he doesn't sleep and he have you seen his weird he's like whispering and then the mics like there's everything half the movie there's just going like I don't I'm probably gonna get lambasted on our Twitter for this but I kind of feel like he's like a young David Lynch in the sense that he's got a lot of weird stuff going on David Lynch has he's doing filmed he's doing films that he just wants to see he doesn't care if you want to see it or not and he does coffee and he does weather reports and he writes books and he does art shows I kind of feel like that's what James does is he's just doing whatever he wants and if you want to come along for the ride great and if not he doesn't really care but he's got a great following I loved him on the soap opera he did when he's basically playing himself as an actor on a soap opera like that was a giant like art project and like a medium that a lot of people take very seriously so I agree with you on at least on James Franco that if I were in his position I'd like to think that I would if I had a month to kill or so I'm gonna go film and alan ginsberg movie instead of make a Capital One commercial yeah yeah yeah I mean and the great thing is his choices are so left-field I mean he did a weird art show where he was basically just drying male anatomy on everything and then he's done like poetry readings and then he's done audiobooks which is kind of a no-brainer most actors do audiobooks but just what he chooses to do and his off-time is just so bizarre and and and kind of commendable because no one can really figure him out and he's cool with hipsters but also that's okay because even though he's cool tipsters we still like him because I know that's like the thing to hate on hipster love so I don't know I I kind of want him to do sci-fi stuff so maybe he'll do more he was in that OS maybe that's true yeah I actually got his master's degree in my little town here in North Carolina you know so there were all these James Franco sightings around town while he was working on his his poetry masters so he sandals isn't it a lot of masters he's got a peach two PhDs and they weren't honorary he like actually went to class for them and hang out with Kesha so we endorsed the actor that's not in the mood I don't know I you know what I'm not gonna go see this movie so they're done next so okay so that one is in July down on the planet of the apes if you totally disagree with us go check it out so the last one let's do one more we'll save the Batman stuff for a future crave gasps oh boy one more that's coming out this summer is Lucy and I am excited for this but I think both the right and the wrong reasons reasons probably being associated Scarlett Johansson who stars in it I don't know what you mean Erik reasons being it's kind of a fascinating premise but the basic idea is that she's a woman who is taken and forced knocked out of them they basically put drugs in her she's a drug mule against her will and the drugs leaked and somehow this gives her access to more of her brain than the average bear and she basically turns into a insane fighting machine so it's basically a lot of Scarlett Johansson just kickin butt but also there's kind of an interesting you know I guess biotech aspect to it no did anyone else here read Hyland's book Friday this is based on not I wouldn't say so but the whole thing so this there's a super strong like genetically altered woman and in the beginning she's told that she's smuggling something in her belly button like this lady and then it all turns out to be a scam and they're gonna kill her and I think actually she was pregnant sorry book spoilers but yeah it just made me think of that in the beginning and I went if anyone else about that - I guess not I'm just gonna pretend this is black widow on vacation so I have a question I think Michael Franco's shares this with me once she gets so powerful where does the story go from there like if characters don't have limits it becomes more a question of what is she what does she want what's her goal but their endgame here yeah exactly she seems pretty she seems like he could do absolutely everything you know from from reading Wi-Fi signals in the air to disintegrating people with a snap of her fingers so I think that is the question it's in the trailer that it kind of becomes a battle against the self because she's like battling against you know the old her this is making her less human and less empathic but so she's kind of badly to preserve her old self then there's this Morgan Freeman character that seems to be playing some kind of a guide I'm guessing that's where it goes I don't well and of course the name Lucy you know the first human is called Lucy the priest human skeleton so nod to human evolution she's been next you pulling in the science I wish I could swipe traffic away and that you putting everyone to sleep I can't tell you how many annoying drunks are outside the bus stop outside my home at 3:00 in the morning I would love to do that and I'm gonna be there with ten kids all the powers I want which is being able to find things quickly changed my hair instantly yeah she's like shapeshifter fighting machine I'm down I'll watch it I mean it's an interesting idea what could you do if you can actually use the full potential of your brain I'm not sure why affecting your hair color in the physical world would actually be part of that but you know it's just just go with it it's a Harry Potter tongs thing we all want to be able to change our appearance easily like a shapeshifter because then it's also you can hide within plain sight as well not just vanity issues but you know one thing I really love about this movie - not only because it's a strong female character kicking butt but you have to kind of wonder when you have that much access to everything in your brain how quickly do you go insane right um we're gonna see that probably and are we gonna see that mean we kind of you know that's not that's a trope that shows up in a lot of sci-fi TV comics movies where if you kind of get the god gene if you suddenly become this overpowered human what do you do with that the parable you don't have the practice you don't have the setup yeah you haven't built the control mechanism superheroes are people that have sudden power do you use it for good to use it for bad do you just use it to cheat things that you didn't get before if you're lucky you have some baby steps yeah I'm interested that the other recent movie with pretty much the same premise has not come up yet and I'm thinking maybe that's because it stars Bradley Cooper limitless that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you become he's like a frustrated writer and he takes the pill and he gets his book done and then gets a whole lot more stuff done I'm not sure it's like the anti answer aren't archiving over its like pre hangover psychologist yeah I don't know I don't like this one better cuz I think I love where it's set I don't know I can't wait to see it I'll go see this and I love seeing Morgan Freeman as a guide or any kind of like Yoda ask Kara it's kind of funny because it seems like she's gonna turn into a god at the end maybe been working Freeman is God talking about this not to give any spoilers right because we won't but at the very season or series finale of Supernatural on CW I'm hoping that God shows up and I really hope it's Morgan Freeman cuz that would be great cuz he just needs to play God and everything that could be great but your theory that it would be a woman but if it's a woman yeah but if it's CW well the problem supernatural is they don't always they'll probably you know it the first two seasons is supernatural it was like every demon was a Hooters waitress so I don't know if they'll really make that and vice versa and vice versa so anyway sorry tangent but yeah I'm excited for this movie I will totally go see it sorry yeah Michael anything yeah Franco I kind of agree with with your initial assessment Erik I'm definitely going to see it you know probably largely because of scarlet but I think you know it's it looks like a good movie and a good action movie but you know I guess I also have this thing that I said earlier that you know when a character become so so powerful the movie just you can almost get a little bit boring you know where she could just wave her finger and pretty much do absolutely anything conceivable it's it's you know I don't know that it makes for a good movie but we'll see I'm gonna see it something just occurred to me and we're talking about the choices of the character choices and the roles people take so you know this evolving transcendent characters kind of also what happened with scar Joe's character in her eye so I wonder if maybe maybe she has some sort of a keep in mind to the movie release date is not signifying when they were filmed so a lot of times movies are filmed not released are filmed out of order of when they actually were in them so her evolution as an actress and what she's choosing his roles that may not quite have the same relevance we kind of want it to but I loved her I thought that was a great movie and I guess yeah it's sci-fi right yeah so I would or just is it just from five years from now I don't know okay I've got a comment from favorite colleague Jeff Sparkman on Twitter here and I'm not sure he's referring to you but he says that basic premise reminds me of the Teen Titans Vil in the Terminator both are based on that ten percent myth oh if they using your brain yeah I just I wonder about that to you if you could have the capacity to use all of your brain would you really be that much smarter or would it just be amplifying how you already are which is just amazing memory yeah like a migraine if you were always a douchebag and you could use all of your brain would you still be a douche bag but with powers imagine having a migraine 10 times as bad and you'd be annoyed with dumb people even more yeah sleep like she does in the trailer or like Maleficent yeah but it's just I feel like if you're already kind of annoyed with dumb people and you become God like smart how do you keep from just pushing everyone off a bridge that you think stupid I know you're gonna get a stern lecture for Morgan Freeman oh that's it that's it Morgan Freeman's your base of morality for everything yeah I think we have a real world analog here I think you become Bill Clinton you become really smart really charismatic but still sleazy I would like that in the movie characters you become a sleazy a really sleazy superhero well actually um the young professor exit their showing in these movies it's kind of like yeah yeah we did a drinking game one time watching x-men first class and one of the things you drank on was every time Xavier does something that kind of douchey and yeah we were all pretty sozzled in the first minute or so Captain Kirk is probably the one of the sleaziest but he's not really a superhero he's just excuse me oh sorry sorry sorry yeah I mean we should do that maybe we should write a scene that article of our favorite sleazy superheroes I feel like that's I mean it's a little BuzzFeed esque but I think we could get away with it on CNET crazy okay so Twitter send us your suggestions of your favorite sleazy super whoo yes and we'll go I think I think we're pretty much wrapping up here Lucy comes out in August at some point so watch for that so one last thing we could do Kelsey you suggested maybe we could go around and just kind of blurt out some some things that we would like to see maybe we could do movies we'd most like to see in the future so you want somebody to make okay I'll go first cuz I'd go story just went up today the Blade Runner sequel I mean huge Blade Runner fan by the way I got some angry comments on Twitter for people saying how dare he's saying that Deckard's are replicant I didn't say that in the article that says that some fans think he's a replicant so you can draw your own conclusions so the whole thing is that Alcon entertainment asked this week Harrison Ford if he would be interested in reprise in his world as Deckard in the Blade Runner sequel if you recently want read his AMA on reddit which we covered on CNET he did actually cover this art of our this comment last month when a fan asked him about Blade Runner sequel and if he'd do it and he said he'd be if the script was good he'd be very interested and he liked working with Ridley Scott even though before they had sort of a a weird past where they argued a lot on set when it first was being filmed the original in 1982 so but he's interested in coming back what in the AMA he said that he hasn't said that recently because of course as we know he's in London right now filming Star Wars as Han Solo reprising his role and even though the 2008 Indiana Jones movie didn't do so well when he came back is indeed there is pretty heavy rumor that he's gonna be doing another Indiana Jones movie after Star Wars so we'll see if you know he's gonna be playing Deckard I would love to see Sean Young come back as Rachel but we'll see if that happens too but I'm excited if there is a Blade Runner sequel because Ridley Scott will be the director and the original screenplay was written by the original screenplay writer of Blade Runner the original one but it's being reprised again I'm not reprise it's being rewritten again by another writer so hopefully it'll be good so fingers crossed you'll see oh I'm waiting for Wonder Woman movies oh yeah I'm not too thrilled by the casting of the one that's happening I'm not gonna get into that but I just want them to keep making more and more Wonder Woman movies until they hit one that I like that's what I'm craving iiw with that I can get behind that to Michael Franco you got one well I'll quadruple agree to the Wonder Woman show crush on Lynda Carter when I was little so I'd like to see that reprised and I'm speaking of Chris Pratt there's you know these rumors of Oh or maybe confirmation that there's a new Knight Rider movie movie coming out mmm it was kind of a Knight Rider fan I like that man in his car against the world kind of thing so I'm looking forward to that cool Steven Beecham you have any suggestions you know we saw like a little preview of it in that HBO show why is it escaping my mind right now but I'm interested in Aquaman what was the show with all the guys uh with the guy from Supernatural JJ no they they had the HBO show as the potaters in there in the movie industry I don't know why I'm forgetting it's rush Entourage yeah he was Aquaman there was actually a pretty stable rumor when yeah storyline and entourage was happening that that actually was going to happen because so many fans of Entourage were also it's not a movie could end up as a TV show like well I'd rather it be a movie TV show I think it only made two or three episodes before it got canceled yeah I the guy from New Sun Smallville I think it was yeah we'll see you do it they could do a good one do it right yeah yeah I agree and the movie screen you get really with that budget you get good underwater stuff yeah I'm down with that what about you Eric what do you say so I'm gonna go dark and topical and current I want I think it's time to do 1984 again and because I think it would be I think it would be I think it might not even seem like sci-fi so yeah it might just be the NBC Nightly News or CBS CBS News no III agree with you I that's one of my favorite movies and I would love to see something like that but I it's hard to it's hard to redo a movie like that when it's passed and it was supposed to be futuristic you never know what fans and sci-fi people are gonna say to that but I would love to see that it's got one of my favorite soundtracks by the arrhythmia so I was always a big fan of 1984 yeah I guess it would have to be 20 84 or or or it could be like a you know an alternate universe game Blade Runner was set in 2019 and we're coming on that pretty quickly and I don't have a hover car yet I don't know about you I like the idea of retro sci-fi though like we have we have terms for you know rain punk which is awesome everybody loves that obviously in 1950s style retro look what what would the turn be for 1980s style my leg warmer retro leg New Romantics yeah futuristic new romantic or retro romantic I don't know I don't know something to think about I feel like I owe nines probably talked about this ad nauseam because I know that Charlie Jane cares about 1984 as well and I have other writer friends at CNET also who love that kind of concept of retro future yeah so I I would love to see some Bioshock I don't know we need a sequel the sky captain I think so sorry I don't know I I love I love Rocketeer Teletubbies Jeff wants to know Jeff Sparkman clever username on Twitter where's the Greatest American Hero movie huh yeah that's a good idea who most looks like William cats right now I don't know I I think we should take that to Twitter if you want an America's greatest hero who would you have cast in that I don't know these are the things that sci-fi fans get together and we get drunk and talk about how we be cast although we are completely sober right we really are that's the sad part but ya know I just I feel like that's I don't know it's the same thing with Godzilla everyone says you know well now that there's gonna be a sequel because I think did we already cover that and see that today that there's a sequel coming there's supposed to be a sequel maybe we can merge Godzilla sequel with America's greatest hero I'd watch that and he says the 80s retro future looks should be called Xanadu more the quality of this actor auditioned to play Luke Skywalker so if Mark Hamill had not that would have been our Luke mr. Hamill well Terry none would have been Princess Leia of Carrie Fisher and come along so that could have been an interesting Berlin video I could go all day that may wrap up the creative cast thanks so much everyone for for joining us and be sure to tweet ideas for a future crave cast to ant crave and also let us know what movies we missed and how gonna do vintage sci-fi retro for the 80s sleazy super dope yes okay the eighties yeah alright well thanks everyone for joining us and always as always check in at cnet.com slash the latest in your geeky universe and we'll be planning another one of these for June in the meantime I guess it's time to go check out Godzilla x-men this weekend for Bonnie Burton Steven Beecham Kelsey Adams and Maikel Franco I'm Erik Mack and we'll see you next time