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welcome to the crave cast everyone i'm your host eric mack and i'm joined by steven Beecham tanya gonzales and he took caitlin petra covitz right chocolates spine drug of it's a valiant effort yes ballerina and the crave master Leslie Katz is also an a to do they're joining us in the cnet studios in San Francisco and also via the magic of skype from California's Central Valley I think it's just work how's it going welcome everyone and as always if you want to join in the conversation we've got chat rooms going on livestream our livestream channel what's the best way for them to find that Steven it's livestream.com / Cena new dot livestream.com / cnet / g OT for Game of Thrones there we go there you go everyone it's a long we're also on Twitter if you want to tweet us at crave we're also keeping an eye on that if you got any questions or comments you just want to join in the conversation good feel free I they won't live in my home town of Taos New Mexico and the offices of the award-winning taos news my hometown newspaper former employer and today obviously we're going to be talking about Game of Thrones but did you know that part of the world of Westeros originates right here in small town USA Taos New Mexico well you would have if you've been reading townnews.com where you'll find this interview if you got the link there Steven there was an interview in the paper here in my hometown with one of my neighbors here in Taos 92 year old Robert Fletcher who is a legendary designer and he actually the guy responsible the look of Klingons he worked with Gene Roddenberry himself he's got a new book out called a trunk full of yak hair or how the Klingons got their looks and Fletcher even though he's 92 years old he isn't the type to completely retire and these days he actually still does some sketches for the costume department at Game of Thrones so you can read all about Fletcher right there at taos news com and I think I probably just gave myself an assignment to look into the full story behind this guy and the Klingon short you we did so anyway let's jump right into the battle for the Iron Throne we've got our resident Westeros guru Caitlyn Caitlyn petrak of its petrarca vets I'm gonna screw that up all day at your meow yeah when she did an amazing guide to the fifth season for us including a really nice wrap up of season four and then we've also got I think all the rest of us are fans except for Jeff who's kind of more or less a total game of thrones noob am i right I haven't seen any of it at all okay well I'm happy I'm excited for you will school you will school you don't worry if a lot to look forward to and to keep track I think it's a roller coaster exactly so I think it's only fair to get Jeff caught up by watching Caitlyn's amazing two minute summary of the last season we throw that on right now and then how about after we watch this will allow you to get one or one or two or three questions to help that we can answer to help you get up to speed Jeff and then you should be completely caught up okay I'm sure solid ok here we go Game of Thrones Season five is starting and you probably need a memory refresher on who did what where and who died last season to help we're gonna recap all the major season four events in two minutes Sansa's taken to the Eyrie by little finger she's freaked out by our cousin and annoyed at the creepy uncle routine and then lie safal owes through the moon door and now Sancho's lady of the Vale so what will they make little finger at marine Daenerys freeze the slaves and sends his DARS Oh Laura back to you n cuy she's betrayed by Jorah Mormont and in the end she has to lock up her dragons so sad after the red wedding Aria goes on a buddy comedy adventure with the Hound when i run into brianna in pod she leaves the Hound for dead and now she's Valar morghulis her way onto a ship bound for Bravo's after Tyrians wet off to Sansa he's accused of killing his nephew and boy does a sister one dead so he's locked up till the Viper fights the mountain and then his brother helps him escape only instead he kills his love che oh and his dad before climbing on a ship with mah reez newly fitted with a golden hand the Kingslayer watches Joffrey died in front of him then he gives Briana's Valyrian steel that one herb so she can find Sansa and then from his sister frees his brother who kills his father and man that'll really mess you up huh yes despite her twin safe return says he's thrown by jamie's stump then the death of her son makes her want blood so she blames Tyrion hates Margaery Tyrell and threatens her father but in the end she loves Jamie so naturally they hook up again basically brands been traveling with the reeds the whole time and Hodor and he's projecting himself into animals and Hodor magically seeing the past and future and discovering his award then he finally makes it to the north and a weirwood and lo and behold there's the prophetic three-eyed Raven I Castle black Jon Snow knows the free folk are coming we can't get anyone to believe him then Mance Rayder does attack and John's true love is killed in Stannis Baratheon swoops in from the north and as promised here's who's dead or at least we think so Joffrey Lannister I mean Baratheon licen Prince Oberyn Martell Brennan pip your grit Jojen Reed the hound maybe che and the crappiest death Tywin Lannister that's it i'm caitlyn and you're all caught up for season 5 on HBO caitlin and using Valar morghulis Valar morghulis as a verb the amazing part is she did all that without note she was actually asleep she's always talked to the best so Jack I wanted to be faster but they were like well yeah we can hardly understand you so my favorite that of lassie son was choppy like big time I'm yeah I was really looking at differences I think there's a really good one for Agron I'm sorry Jeff questions go okay so if you were gonna give me a reason to start watching this knowing me what what would be the biggest reason for me to start watching hella innuendos yeah yeah you windows let's see exactly I'm sold he's in I'm on board it I think it has a bit of the beautiful script I think the script writing if you like you know if you're a writer and if you like to read pretty much you will enjoy this the whole beautiful trip that they take you into the vocabulary in the language the way that they really make that connection when they use of words and the way they answer each other is just it's beautifully done I think it is really it's very well written it to the point though where I sometimes watch with the captions on I do that too just so that you know you get a little more or if you don't really understand what's happening or what you miss a certain section because a lot of times they're secret away in little old corners you know I'd say also knowing how much you like escapism Jeff that it really transport you to wear it transports you to another world but there are a lot of real human emotions there you know there's fear love betrayal hubris um just such a bridge relay set so much humor um and the production values are extremely high it's like watching a movie every week it is definitely and I mean you're a fan of the star wars canon jephson and it's really the same thing it's just Star Wars collided with Rumspringa I mean it's best if you're throwing some gratuitous nudity I am so done the highlight of my day was hearing leslie say boobies it's all downhill from here you guys do you got I feel like since the first couple of seasons and I don't mean this as a complaint or to be creepy although I'm sure it'll come across but it feels like the nudity has actually decreased while they've they've had to focus on killing more people over the reasons that seem right I also heard that the Khaleesi was not into getting naked anymore on the show so that was a controversy I read it once a fight once she did it like at the beginning I remember the first time we see she told me yeah was in the tub yeah yeah she was pretty much naked and yeah you see here like with that bike like see-through gown well I mean when you think about it they're all on the younger side the ones who like playing Daenerys and Kit Harington and they're all in the younger side I wonder how old they actually are that's kind of part of the there's like a feminist storyline going on there right because Khal Drogo is gone now and she's like seizing her power so she I mean there's a there's no need for gratuitous nudity anymore cuz Khal Drogo's not around to demand that I suppose I don't know no but as as we're seeing her develop her relationship with like Daario naharis that's true that's true we're starting to get man of the names it's very impressed I got a lot of crap actually oh you people I was like listen I just don't have an accent I'm staying at the way I've read it in my brain in the book I'm saying tell me there's a wrong way yeah i mean george RR martin probably good but whatever said it with an American axe yeah that's all that's the only difference you guys I tried my hardest I'm happy to report that with season five net we've now had two or two episodes in last night was the second episode of season five and for the first time in five years i'm actually watching it legally i'm pretty excited you know cuz the head i'm watching on sling TV actually i added HBO there and um so i'm actually paying for my own HBO for the first time as an adult and it almost feels good I always watch it on demand whenever I you like it um and i did not watch sunday it'sa i'm gonna wash it up to you know buck by one after the other Oh back to thank you sorry my Spanish gets in my mind that totally scares me I have to watch it the night of because I know everyone's gonna talk about the next days yeah I get nervous than I could have to stay away from Twitter you know so everyone hears up to date except Tanya and I right okay not up to date i saw the how do you feel about minor spoilers oh it's fine i can handle yeah this episode was much more engaging than the first one really yeah the first one you've got a whole load of information that had to be covered and we move the plot forward really fast in one episode but in this episode would we got more Daenerys more aria is gonna have yeah yeah the return of Jacques cigar Oh any better sense of where sonsa might be headed no ish but we see a lot of her that's okay I feel like she's getting more more you know she's getting she's getting more witty great heard about it and I think she's yeah i mean i really think that she's she am growing up and we've seen a really good change in her especially has she's been with Littlefinger oh very smart and very strategic she's yeah she's gotten she's learned it took her a few years but she's learned to think before she speaks how do they did and i was surprised that she actually liked bike that little finger i was let you know I was like I don't know how this is gonna go now she's like totally manipulating him yeah you definitely you'll enjoy the second episode it has a really good scene with Santa and little finger um it's there I don't want to are there certain characters or storylines that keep you guys hooked more than others that keep you coming back or that you wanted you are more interested in for me like I love aria is like a wonderful character and Daenerys like those are my favorite characters isn't Denarius kind of everyone's favorite story when i feel like you know the whole mother of dragons thing like it is anyone like not really just I mean you kind of see it coming her ascension to the throne and I haven't read the books but you know that's certainly where I would like to see it go he's an isn't everyone rooting for that i'd like to see Brienne Squire be um take over the Iron Throne frankly I feel like I love dinners but i wouldn't mind her having a little bit of a sense of humor just cracking a smile or a joke now and then maybe that's too much to ask for someone in her position but i think she feels very thrust into the limelight and almost like she can't be that person like she can't be that childish person because she has to be a queen as she has to be the other and she has got a rule and so I let it let her emotions show it's too risky yeah it opens her up a lot to her enemies is what I think she feels but I think you know the fact that what happened with the Dragons you know when she went even backpacking to the cave and she saw the dragons I think that's gonna really probably impact her because I think that now she's like she's losing you know the dragons that she's a mother of dragons and then she you know her decision he pretty much put the dragons against her yeah cuz they're like mad at her because she chained them and put them in a cave like really like who well I don't understand you don't have like a dragon trainer that like gives you this this is you don't know don't do this with your dragons she shouldn't googled that I know she told our shooter I'm sorry I mean um in the premiere episode uh what's his face told her a dragon queen no dragon exactly it's not a queen is not a great you can't you admit yourself that it's you don't have any so now she nice dude like start stop losing her like well like I think she listened to them yeah I think she's letting her like hair fear of them because there's such things I'm late though I don't blame her you know honestly but it was interesting to see her fear when she opened that key question she was risen back yeah i think it was interesting to see her fear even though she's like I'm their mother they would never harm me they're my children and now she's like oh god what have I done no I think she notices the first time when um when they killed the goat Oh yet the child the child oats in the traditional yeah there's a huge turning point in her I think when you know he like snap at her like that drogon drogon drug him yeah if you don't even accent does not my right I'm sorry well good sorry guys a dry martes what about you Jeff from the two minutes you just watched and picking up bits and pieces off the internet like what other any characters are parts of it seemed intriguing yeah um all rights it's hard to pick because it just seems like there's just so much stuff going on and it's it's like you know what jumping in and like all my children in the middle of a season nn so I'm always gonna be going for Erica Kane but you know there are all the new characters and stuff like that so I don't know I just I'm kind of excited because now I have something new to obsess about what would you have to drop in order to take on Game of Thrones and fit it into your schedule or can you fit it in with all your other oh no Jeff has a lot jeff has my second probably only to me yeah I'm like trying to catch up to I am all caught up on flash by the way um um congrats you're the land like I I would probably have to drop that I under fortunately it's not so much of a problem okay there you go as you got to stay awake i basically i'll be eating it in my nap time yeah that that's like a huge cover if I don't get my wife out in the office Jim your crank even if you get your nose okay let's be honest okay Walt yeah I can't really argue that actually I would have any issues dropping flash I didn't really hook me at all I love uh Kevin although well I love him I've loved him since you what was that TV show come ahead yeah yeah yeah so so the key the key question for Game of Thrones I think before we get into Star Wars and JJ Abrams is what does Game of Thrones have to do to wrap itself up nicely and not kind of become the next loss sorry JJ that for a lot of people including me kind of fell apart at the end I mean yeah how does this finish strong with break even if it was just set like here's how many seasons we're gonna have then they say we're gonna have yeah I think there's a fixed in it they were like we're gonna have seven season yeah yeah yeah so you better wrap it up yeah deal with that emotionally as you all want to I think he's gonna I don't know really there are so many unanswered questions yeah so many think is gonna be a complicated one to wrap especially they want to keep the high-quality scripting that they are doing so far and without haven't seen a special effects i don't i really i think it's interesting too because george RR martin came out and said that in his winds of winter in the sixth book he's already he's making some decisions and changes to his storyline that they've already prevented themselves from doing in the show so like certain writing directions they've taken in the show he's kind of changing in the books so it'll be interesting to see how the two separate they said that we would get more separation this season and we have we've gotten a lot more like some characters our way I had where we would have ever seen them and others are still in what book three or something so I think that'll be most interesting for those of us who follow and continue and read the books too yeah I don't think they can depend on old George very much at all that guy that guy lives in New Mexico and he's everywhere he opened a theater down in Santa Fe and he does all kinds of charity stuff and that that dude is straight procrastinating ready though he did say he was like canceling a lot of appearances and not writing for the show now and he's gonna actually try and finish his book George we believe did he also say was gonna suck the season or am I did I read a headline that said he announced was gonna suck or something or he's apologizing to Game of Thrones fans am I wrong I don't know I thought I saw that somewhere I did not Eric since he live in New Mexico maybe you should follow him around and do like a photo a gallery of all the things he's doing instead of writing yeah there's a good one well I'm sure he's got plenty people following him around and an inner array of costumes yeah those people around to the bakery counter yeah love you agree go great I think it's all relative well I mean I wonder if in wrapping it up maybe the one mistake would be to try to actually tie everything up to neatly it almost seems like you could get really bogged down and trying to wrap everything up you know maybe you just have you know 11 hero ascends to the throne everyone else dies I don't know and that's actually another question would you be satisfied if one of the more evil characters kind of wound up on top in the end no how could they not yeah that's what it seems to be heading that way right I mean how could they not think about his entire writing style and how he's like yeah i mean i could write a book that's perfect fantasy but that wouldn't be realistic that's true so if somebody great perfect lovely ends up on the throne kinda seems like a cop out at this point we've come this far skal the way George it would be interesting to see and has anyone read all the books yeah you have okay all right so no spoilers there but i'd be interested in seeing like Denarius you know kind of wind up master of the kingdom but maybe she's grown a little more evil in the process now could there be an interesting way to go she's already growing evil right yeah it is yeah yeah yeah you can see her you know her the way that she rules it's very yes look everybody's gonna die it's like okay you are embracing your inner queen really interesting yeah the last I happens when you don't get naps that's why napping he's saying important Jeff Stephen what were you gonna say yeah I just gonna stay in the last episode she you know she flex her muscle but she made a big mistake at the same time so did she though did she she did did she pull the whole everyone turned on her in the last scene that's not because she made a mistake it's because when you try and institute blind justice you're gonna make enemies of course you're gonna eat finger some people but if she didn't do what she did she would have angered the other half of the population and I just think that on her quest for true justice it's gonna be really difficult for her to learn who her true friends are make sure that she knows what she wants what she doesn't yet she still you know taking into account other people's stuff and other people's opinions and listening to them and do you think after you know that what happened do you think she's gonna try to do that again you think she'll pull the same thing she like learned from that obviously she's what do you go there trying to stone her to death she's leaving you know what do you think she learned from it I think she learned that she shouldn't publicly execute people like Denarius is straight-up Abraham Lincoln man she better watch her back what no she's Abraham Lincoln um yeah I honestly as fan favorite as she is and as great a character is she is I just don't know if she's going to survive this eerie yeah neither because that's that I was a good one straight up Lincoln get a good especially because of her own dragon side having her on her side anymore I mean that's a big thing okay are they not it's very ambiguous at this point a bigger question is where is the other dragon who are Jon Snow's parents you guys I just I did get to see a little of Jon Snow's world last a few weeks ago and i was in iceland we did a tour of a bunch of the locations they shot a lot of the the lands beyond the wall and like the wildlings camp we wouldn't toward all those they're actually on crave right now and I gotta say while i was in iceland it was colder than what it looks like in the in the show i actually learned i went to some of the places where they they film some of the winter scenes and the people around there will tell you like when they film there wasn't actually snow there so some of the scenes where they're running through a blizzard that's steam from one of the hot springs from some of the geothermal stuff so but but while i was there there was snow the winter is so already coming it's so their winter has arrived yeah winter has arrived and it stayed this year at iceland for sure Eric when you're into those locations were there signs saying what exactly was filmed there anything like that no but the not there but you can find stuff on the web like you know the Iceland Tourism Board me I some film board they they'll give you maps of where everything has been filmed and there's ton of stuff that's been filmed there like interstellar and no and Batman Begins and a whole lot of stuff you wouldn't expect has been filmed there so you can kind of go around and check it out do they have organized tours of Game of Thrones locations they do there's the tour companies have several it was yeah those were beautiful yeah why do we like the whole country's beautiful it's all you got to do is all I do is press a button but it's it's a beautiful country so it's it's tough not to get good photos so any any final thoughts on game of thrones before we move on to Jeff's home home field advantage here with the Star Wars ruler well let's go ahead and do it you got that the new trailer are you gonna play it and then run out of the room spinner I've watched it I've watched like 10 ok here we go only 10 the plan there goes I remember the tweet like he was yesterday when my son saw this he's two years old he went Star Wars you knew from the font I was so proud you're doing good Steven how beautiful then crashed oh my force is strong in my family's my father has it I have it my sister hasn't you have that power too you Chewie we're all wow what a great moment oh honey it's a little emotional every time we watch I do i do with good reason though she wrote a wonderful piece about that it's so good it just I don't know I'm just so happy to see Julian I'm soloing why did that ending get you so emotional Tonya the Han Chewie I think I it's like a you know like I said it on on the piece uh it's because they kind of like you know flood me with a bunch of memories of my childhood you know like um back in Mexico we didn't really have I don't remember like having a lot of you know it was there was no game boys or Nintendo was not that big yet and we used to use a lot of our imagination you know to play and me and my brother created all these plots you know like we have this amazing imagination and creativity and we use our house and we transform it all the time so like I say that we use the you know broomsticks to be by favors and we like Tori got into it and then I start remembering all the stories yeah that we created you know he he and I and we made oh this room is gonna be the sand color or you know we were in hot we'd like I don't know you know like you change it on there's snow right now so you need to like play it out hard to walk you know Holly did and then my dog always got involved the whole thing yeah he played different characters may be the ones that he played the most was on r2d2 Arthur teeth on Mexican is so I think um the whole mom flashback you know to this things that you forget it because the time goes by and you know you don't really think about how did you know Hansel is gonna look right today yeah you don't really think about it because you know the movies over they've brought you back to when you were first the Star Wars yes it's brought me back to being like a little child the first time I saw it and I totally believed it I totally I did there was no knowledge of that was impossible or special effects makeup I was like oh my god this is happening in a you know yeah see far far away and Tanya did you did you miss the like the episode 133 the ones that came out in the late 90s we like in school did you catch those when I came out I totally did I told me I was obviously I've you know may lines to buy you know tickets for the Premier's I was it was very god I remember lining up for those movies oh my god it was so excited like you don't you get older a staff to go with your friends you know to know to do it I totally did I yeah I totally went crazy on it uh and you know I think at the time i was so hyped I didn't really i don't know i did miss a lot of the main characters there was something that was it didn't connect like Star Wars yeah but the first one wasn't that bad for me the first one except for I'm not a huge fan of junior beings and i rewatch it is anyone there's people that me like a little but I just think I you know re watching it it's like oh my god so on he's so annoying like personally i really don't i didn't really didn't like it but it has you know good things that I I enjoyed I like okay I love the pod racer with podracer seems like I really like the cold seeing you know embracing and obviously you know Darth Maul fighting at the end with with obi-wan it's ridiculously amazing that you know lights I regime with the fight it's one of my favorites but then we get to the second one and oh my goodness how dis naked that was like please why do they do the romantic story that was really hard to watch for me I like I honestly just like stood up and left because I was like this is not this is not what star was once you know like especially when you remember han Solo and Leia be no you know like that annoying a guy that likes you when you're in high school ID bothers you wasn't that like totally like Hansel and Leigh is like you I love you I know like you know you like constantly but her it's a classic line obviously so I I did think that they went very very Disney on the second trilogy I really didn't you know you watch it and you kind of like okay you know it's cool it's part of it mm-hmm but not being like the first not beloved but no no no like the first especially I even you know this weekend obviously I got old enough static and I went back and I saw them the first trilogy with without you know the HD part that is not the new version that church look at it it's like the original you know it still has parts that look like even as he but it's still it's that's how I remembered it I didn't remember all these new characters that they added in the new remastered um movies that they want so like you know I i watch it like I watch it when i was 18 years yeah and he was so cool and i am like oh my god i love our to like that's my favorite character like he's my favorite I really think it's amazing the way that they made him speak so loud you know without speaking with a little noises and I don't know he's such an important he's a good communicator he is it yeah and safe to run for office I will totally vote for art thank you Jeff what do you think oh we're sure oh I was just like when when we were watching it when it when it first debuted I was just like because I didn't want to get sucked in again cuz you know like what the last trilogy you know episode one looked exciting when you saw the trailer and then you know the movie stars and it's talking about talking about like you know taxes and gratefully chen's and I'm like do I have to fill out a 1040 I mean so then it's all I just you know I was very guarded but by the time Han and Chewie showed up I like you can even ask Caitlin I was pretty much bouncing in my chair can confirm yeah yeah I think with I mean with the return of on and chewy and the new droids and stuff they're gonna have to try pretty hard to screw it up but it looks good i'm excited i'm not asking them to try hard to screw it up either I would be happy if they didn't screw it up yeah please don't don't try just on my account yeah sorry everybody's it's huge fan oh ok I do have one question and some of you might laugh at me and you might think it's ridiculous go for it but could Darth Vader be alive well that's a tough one cuz he was in Ghost form at the end or one of the movies too right ok along with Yoda so possibly not yeah he says has in the voice-over hahaha see his mangled helmet I understand Jeff was like yeah but like in the force you don't die like your spirit lives on it'll be a glowing character possible I was like what again this is JJ Abrams so here thank you it could just be in purgatory they did reverse rock and Star Trek's all right ah they pretend we're back in time or JJ loves time travel yes that's true that's early it can't happen what I think that we know where was I don't remember when I was reading that they think that it's probably one of the kids you know the grandkids that's gonna turn dark that's you know that's one of the stuff that i was reading you know right of the way to the web ok so i don't understand staying away from trailers and I understand how people just like want to tune everything out but I won't read speculation about them bagley so like I'll watch the trailer and I want to know who the characters are Stephen I saw one another however I won't read when they're like here's what's going to happen or here's what I think will happen in the new Star Wars and I'm like no no no no no nothing you could say could come close to this movie I just think it's you know it's the normal hype you know you're gonna start you know you're gonna see the images and you're gonna create your own you know kind of like a way to peace your anxiety to why I just wonder to how mad some of the people are gonna be after it comes out oh I know oh yeah there's gonna be there's always haters Stephen have you seen the trailer oh you know I watching the chimes I'm not avoiding the trailers it's just he doesn't want to know the extraneous and our Wars Celebration the other day this dress yeah they were they had all the characters and three they had three character Steven it was only three they were talking about what their part in the movie was I was like I don't want to hear it like name of their territories that's it they named that over there no no three just three it was creepy Oh even get full meals not the old i'm not talking about original case thank you I'm just talking about like three of the new yeah and they were talking about yeah those other part in them film like this is what I do in the film oh I'm like I don't that's all I already don't say this is what I do or where I go one of the guys was talking about it it made me I think Daisy realize I was not talking about where he goes Daisy Ridley was like hey I'm this character and here's what she is like and they're like okay but and she's like that's all you know like when they reboot like a superhero film sometimes to use an unknown actor that no one knows you know so he kind of they give some more believability to you know what I mean and then if you have all these actors that you're I've already seen them on TV a hundred times like it's just not gonna I don't know I I know them as an actor not as a Star Wars character you know I mean speaking of so they're good actors and you're blaming them dare you get work started one movie we saw over town hayden christensen hint not well yeah what about Ben Affleck yeah what about Ben Affleck I was just gonna excited I don't know a good is so beefy yeah Tori huge for that oh my goodness it's crazy Oh where's your water JJ why did I know cool down I'm just thinking about that like and then Henry give me on my mission please oh I don't even know how I underserved by that movie she can't Jeremy Irons could just talk over them like staring at each other and that would probably be enough love his voice yes right oh that was the best part of the trailer yeah everybody was amiss Alfred odd what why don't we wrap things up at the trailer Stephen yeah how would he would see not okay the person I'm gonna see this it I mean here we go I hope this is the right one I'll tell you yeah is it really surprising that the most powerful man in the world should be a figure of controversy we as a population on this planet have been looking for a savior we're talking about a Balian whose very existence challenges our own sense of priority in the universe human beings have a horrible track record of France following people with great power an absolute power corrupts absolutely chaos maybe he's just a guy trying to do the right thing better now don't you got it they brought their warrior they'd come from the sky the world has been so caught up with what he can do that no one has asked what he should that's how it starts the fever the rage the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men cruel tell me do you plead sure will there's the most ridiculous line we remember yeah the number of jokes that will be made about that line infinite infinite you I wonder if there's me Oh must be already I just I like the voiceovers and the glimpses of characters as we hear everyone talking ah there I heard neil degrasse tyson charlie rose and a few other people are recognized in there oh that's cool I didn't really yeah I was like I didn't know I was a listen specifically for like characters who were in it so you can clearly hear Holly Hunter yeah I love Holly Hunter voice oh no it's just so fantastic I want to see it just to hear her speak and we still don't know who she plays in the movie for sure so we interesting and then um you can hear jesse eisenberg too oh yeah I think I don't recognize his voice because I spent a lot of time watching now you see me recently I was like wait mmm I'm totally in they seem to be pulling out all the the production stops if nothing else I'm not even a big comic book guy but uh I'm all in what do you think Jeff I'm slightly jet off looks a little bored no I i was looking something up um I don't know like was like when I saw when I saw a man of steel I did not leave the theater happy um yeah I don't love Zack Snyder I don't I'll just like you can recover I'm sorry I don't like his I totally love him style I don't love how is cinematography I just don't love his work you'll see it you'll see it right I'll go see it yeah oh yeah I'm so much please go see the movie if only because I know everyone will be talking about it yeah I feel like I can't really you know piss and moan about it if I don't go see exactly exactly you gotta know what you're complaining about yeah exactly it's like Twilight you're gonna be a good I finally read or tried to read the book so I knew how to insult people who liked it it's hi I'm just tried to read it's worked fine for me he was hard i also rated for the certain reason and it was like oh i watch the movie it's exactly the same oh yeah oh yeah be a farm you gotta be informed an informed complainer yeah you know why have an opinion yeah I know we're talking about I know in our last minute here why don't we go around the horn really quick and just pick the thing we're most looking forward to movie TV series whatever it might be in the next year you must start Wesley hot okay I'm just looking forward to continuing to follow game of thrones and hopefully we'll reconvene maybe like a little down the line and Kim is right on where our characters have gone since since now I'm probably gonna stick to Game of Thrones of course and the avengers age of ultron i'm really looking for and by the way um rich trend home in London who was a crave writer went to see it last night and his spoiler free review will go up today at two p.m. pacific time so look for that yes very soon counting time yeah i'm excited to read what he had to say he seemed to really enjoy it for me really yeah seems like very excited um I of course I'm excited about all those things but hey not gonna lie I grew up a Bond girl oh my god I'm so excited for Spectre oh my god a Spectre late yes yes yes so excited yeah I tell like you agree with you that's definitely the thing I'm looking forward to the most and it's also very soon oh and mission impossible 5 don't judge me oh yeah don't judge me you have to wash I am so excited did you have to watch so I do I don't see they're all not really good all over I have to you know they're just fine I know I not thinking anything not on the same page oh my god i love the music what about you guys stevenage f i might try out that star wars movie it sounds like it might be kind of cool oh you think oh yeah definitely my pic 2 star wars and excited about that you guys have a long time to wait I know go for something like soon stay off the internet yep hey I'd like a long time for this already I mean they were talking about doing these when I was a kid and yes they had movies then I can't remember when I watched the Star Trek reboot with JJ Abrams in the first shot is the enterprise and you hear the ping like that was enough for me right now that's worth a ten-dollar right there's a ping surprise JJ doing Star Wars I can't wait oh I got excited yeah I third that because I think it could be a redemption story we can maybe forget the last three and put the cannon back on solid footing and there's also there's they also announced kind of a what's the one that's coming out like in 2016 there's like the in-between story Oh robe one robe one yeah yeah and they just announced to with Felicity Jones and they just went over her character and what the plot is and I'm being very vague so I want to spoil it for Stephen thank you you can look it up they released well I guess like a 10 second week of the teaser trailer came out and then they talked during the Star Wars Celebration about what the movie would be based on in things so pretty interesting that's exciting I also what's the I don't remember if he'd already started the story tailed by the droids thing goes out of yet cartoon oh yes day oh yeah they're gonna tell like the original trilogy from the joints plan toys play hey great yeah we really larious that's gonna be amazing I really want is already like I mean welcome I love like I'm sorry but yeah the rest of your year planned out I do it is like an i preorder it already yeah we're gonna find this could you invite me to the pre pre yeah yeah can I help you and I get available the table read I can make droid zones yes I've been training for this my whole life exactly since I was eight all right and I'm a producer so i can edit sound in it you know if anyone out there who works on it is watching tanya is here and ready to work for probably pennies all right well I think we can leave it there that's uh that's all the time we've got for this crave cast so much more than what we covered in the last 45 minutes is on cnet com / crave all of Caitlyn's wonderful coverage of game of thrones and the rest of the creative crew as well as well as Tonya's essay on the Star Wars trailer it's all there cnet com / crave so check it out as usual for Leslie Katz Tanya Gonzales Caitlyn Caitlyn petrak of its Stephen Beecham and Jeff Sparkman i'm eric mack and we'll see you next time adios