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welcome to the crave cast i am your host eric mack live from Cena's high desert Bureau the annual geekfest that was comicon 2016 it's now over but we're still digesting all the news and everything that we learned whether it's the improbable revival of the nickelodeon classic double dare all things Star Trek beyond or the latest pokemon developments there is so much to rehash from the annual meeting of the united nations of nerds a little later on in the show we'll also get an update from the major political conventions going on in the US this month which strangely have some crossover with comic-con but first let's check in on our panel and introduce them including those that made the pilgrimage to comic-con this year live in the cnet studio there we have Kelsey Adams Christine Caine Jeff Sparkman and behind the controls as always Steven Beecham howdy also still in the promised land of San Diego via Skype is mike sorrentino from see how you guys doing yay all right thanks thanks everyone for joining us today and of course we're live on livestream and on YouTube and on cnet and if you want to join the comments conversation you can jump in the chat rooms there or tweet at us at krave so to get started Mike you're still there in the promised land um and you got to get going first why don't you won't you tell us your comic-con highlights to start things off well this was the first time I've worked at a comic con I've come the last few years I've never had a pass before I'd always go outside outside of the comic con area it basically becomes a free disney world this year alone there was a Gravitron you could jump on laser tag at Petco Park I believe in Adult Swim's theme green area I didn't personally make it over that last one but in terms of inside the convention hall there was so much going on in terms of movies survival's i spent a particularly large amount of time covering some of the Nickelodeon 90s nostalgia activities which included a the legends of hidden temple being revived as a television movie and to promote it they had a virtual reality experience where you put on a samsung gear vr and kirk fog who is the host of that game show is now the guide to the temple when you go in the temple and you meet all mac and all mac is kind of scarier he's a little i guess a little more friendly on the game game show this time he's like you must complete a puzzle or you'll be trapped here forever and beyond that there was also nickelodeon did a 30th anniversary of their double dare game show which was amazing they brought back mark summers and had members of the all that cast compete against each other in double dare activities and it felt just like the game show which apparently ended in 1993 why didn't realize that far back that family double dare had ended i guess because of the reruns i totally want to play this all the sounds were all the same they apparently did a couple press only games before to warm up for the facebook live and they did a full of a leap about a twenty eight minute or so broadcast and all of it which is on point all the lights sounds it was crazy how it was it was just so weird it was like the opening was original everything that i would you see when i was nine but now I was in a night it was being held in a nightclub and everyone was drinking and you had all these kid games being played by people now in their 20s 30s a bean maybe in 40s it was fantastic am I crazy to recall recently I think this was a Kickstarter or something that there is like a documentary being made about Marc summers life did what did that come up at all I didn't come up i'm not familiar with that honestly but i would really like to see it because he has such a cool career i was sitting next to a friend of his it he's a magician now maybe he's been mentioned the whole time i didn't know that till till then between that and his history on unwrapped there is a video documentary i learned about over the weekend about the making of double dare I think it's at probably sat on VHS I believe from like 1991 from a long time ago but it went over how they filmed like the pilot of it way back when but there was a lot of 90s coming back Power Rangers there reboot movie comes out next year and the cast of that we're making appearances all over comic-con I attended a panel that was held at petco park where the director dean is relied announced that they'll reimagine alpha 5 in some way was the robot buddy that the Rangers had and it definitely some things a theme where they want to appeal to people who were kids in the 90s but are now growing up ideally with jobs and with money to then stand on toys and games that you said above their parents for it's not really like the perfect storm of 90s nostalgia lately with all of this stuff and in Pokemon it says it's almost it's almost too much to take in fact it was too much to take when I Scott when I saw Scott Baio speaker the Republican National Convention what he had to say was too much to take but you also caught up with all the Star Trek news while you were there right oh yeah Star Trek had a pretty big blow out there leave was the 50th anniversary panel I've someone correct me if I had the the number wrong thanks the they announced that that CBS series that comes out in 2017 will be Star Trek discovery they showed off the ship which I've been noticing commenters wondering if it's now going to be a prequel based on the design of the ship I don't have enough familiarity honestly with the history of Star Trek and what the ship designations are I just saw Star Trek beyond last night um yeah the dishes in the main universe not to be universe oh yeah yeah the prime universe which I had learned from my colleague rich or Carly Grich who was reporting that was the universe that was the TV show before the movies broke out yonder always thought I was right we're a whole lot of movies before the reboot movies but they carry on yea though the movies again I'm not as familiar I'll be honest um I'm a nerd now I appreciate it thank you the UH ya knows that I was a cool panel too I'd watch that panel remotely and then our colleague went to which was at a hotel panel with interviewing with the people themselves about it very curious to see how it comes out since it's going to be releasing digitally on CBS first then on that the all access platform the US and Netflix everywhere else so what did everyone else think about all the Star Trek news and and you know any other double dare fans anyone else have any reactions to the stuff that might covered oh yeah I want to go on that double dare ya obstacle course for sure that needs to happen let's look super fun I hope its annual I mean I know it was the 30th anniversary but they got to do that again it was too too good I think the guy look like everyone there was just super excited so hopefully they will bring it back so Christine was I like for you I mean you're kind of a different generation well I'll be quite honest I think I actually missed that but entirely so I didn't people seemed really really excited about double dare and I'm like what is that and i know i'm just laying out my ignorance here for everyone to see you but um what about power rangers before after i think i was a little bit mmm too young for it i mean i remember watching some episodes but i don't really remember anything cuz i was like six yeah yeah something surreal yeah i'm like discovering our Rangers now because my kids are foreign to and they just want power rangers and they have i bought them like the big you know the big character that puts all the dinosaurs together with the power the Dino Chargers and everything's though I'm going about it all 20 years of it on netflix and just have them watch it yeah whole thing that'll keep them quiet for like two days I mean do we think we're reaching peak 90s right now it feels it feels just like an over filming amount I mean what what is going on that this is happening right now I think he's like Ariz I think those kids are now adults yeah exactly and we have expendable income we want to spend our money on something and we and a lot of us have kids too so we want to share those memories that we have our kids so it makes sense that's all coming around right now yeah totally well what what for you personally mike is the moment from this year that that you know that you tell friends first when when you only talk about the trip is the double dare what do you think it's gonna be double dare because of the even just getting in was a triumph because it was strictly invite only when we first asked they politely weren't sure but then the day before they let us in and then they gave us really great seats right in the ring or everything was happening to be able to watch Lori Beth Denberg and Josh server it was that Danny temporarily and Kel Mitchell as well running around together competing and physical challenges that's definitely for me the biggest highlight but beyond that it was cool to just see so many people cosplayers and really diehard fans run around there were people waiting I think three hours to x star wars figures I wasn't around by the hazard with a few times to see if I could even get in line and they're like nope linesville so like that and I also don't think any point anyway we really had a three-hour luxury to go shopping because it was just a busy busy week ok so I gotta know about the Star Trek beer did you get a chance to taste that yeah it was great it was a this golden ale made by schmaltz Brewing Company and this is their second beer they've made the first one was a Vulcan themed beer and they had it on display that's ahead on draft at comic-con it had a US i said this right excuse me it was a golden ale with a sort of a light spice to it and it was called the trouble with tribbles based off of okay just ever episode involved the triples in start Star Trek trouble with that one yeah and now as a definitely a really refreshing and it came with a commemorative glass which I have nowhere near me right now unfortunately and it was a nice sort of thing I was talking with the owner the company about how they got the rights they have them for like a three year deal i believe so they'll have a new beer come january around that time around the time as a new TV show so it's definitely more Star Trek theme drinks to come and hopefully maybe more franchises could have like drinks to come on actually there are already plenty of um you can get Game of Thrones beer lord the rings beer just Klingon blood wine apparently I'm why wow I actually have a whole bunch of links if you interested I've been trying gets me to do around it for a while ya know this is a thing you can get totally drunk on whatever universe you choose it's a beautiful thing the craft brewing revolution but don't mix them the hangover is terrible yeah yeah that's right oh it's a beer beer before liquor never sicker liquor after beer have no fear right that's that's the thing it's at a certain age neither one works but well hey Mike I know you gotta go I think you're technically on vacation there in San Diego but thanks for calling in and filling us in on everything comic-con this year of course thanks for having me guys and I look I had such a great time working with everybody over there and up speed there in a few days actually awesome safe travels thanks bye everyone yeah all right uh Mike Sorrentino ladies and gentlemen so so Christine you were also on location in San Diego this these past few days right yeah that's correct and it was my first comic con ever actually like i haven't been to san diego comic-con or wondercon before so i had only read about it to sort of hone my expectations and that's it go ahead and what I was just to say you you used you put together some really awesome cosplay galleries what were what were some of your favorite sites from San Diego well I have to say that the the pokemon go obviously has been like extremely prominent just everywhere and so you kind of expected a lot of like last minute cause plays of Pokemon like at the con and even just after the con ended like each day and going in attendees leaving and going into downtown there were people like chanting their names or just like freaking out like oh my god there's you know like whichever Pokemon here or whatever and Jeff was there with me oh yeah yeah and not it yeah like because downtown San Diego is clustered with various pokay stops and gyms so you can sort of physically see the battles going on like people were congregating in groups and like physically just like trying to claim gyms and grab Pokemon and things like that it was very an team rivalries were very apparent to like people were wearing t-shirts and you know jokingly throwing crap at like other people on the posing teams yeah um so it's kind of crazy but expected yeah not too many people walking into each other walking into walls uh I think that was walking into Jeff I think that was the case uh anyway just well yeah is there so many people there you can't not walk into people yeah it's sort of something you have to in order to survive comic-con you have to embrace really that you're just going to be constantly running into people anyway whether you like it or not but no other than people just clustering around bars and things like during epic on itself people tended to be more concerned about making their way to panels that they really wanted to see cuz lines are notoriously long for some of them or just sitting down at some random spot and just charging their phones probably because their phones were dying from playing pokemon go so yeah away or may not have died because of that yeah I brought two portable chargers in it pation for all of the Pokemon that I would catch and the pokemon in San Diego are very different yeah then the pokemon in San Francisco like there are a lot more fire types because Southern California is always on fire yeah that's the weird yeah it's really weird but kind of nice though hoping that they get trading up soon for the game because you know otherwise you'd have to like travel a lot of all over the world to get all of the Pokemon so yeah you know I would think between like Pokemon just like taking photos of other cosplayers taking selfies periscoping doing Facebook live I would assume that like people are running through their batteries like crazy everyone always has a phone up is that pretty accurate well you're either posing you're taking a picture yeah it's very true like sort of everyone you see on the floor is kind of glued to their device and whenever they see a cosplayer that's really good you start to see a group kind of forming a semi-circle around them waiting yes or them forming are really in a really informal line to take pictures with them or take pictures of them and for me like because I had to photograph quite a few of them I had to wait in many of those lines in order to get photos for our cosplay galleries but there's a fun experience I mean the people who make their costumes tends to be really passionate and usually really really nice too like I kind of was worried about like the infamous like cattiness or a stubbornness or just like being jerks in general about you know like whenever you go to comic-con but I didn't notice that to really be the case except for maybe saturday when it was the most crowded craziest busiest day and it results in people turning a little bit barbaric but I think that's true for everyone even I was even the ones not dressed up like yeah dressed up yeah yeah i saw a panel on on cosplay it Silicon Valley comic-con where they were saying that cosplay costumes that are meant to imitate movie costumes and TV costumes are often actually better made than the original props because they're not meant for just brief filming they have to be worn all day long and comic con which is extremely hot yeah and you know they're on their feet all day and people are up close to them and you know poking at them so they actually have to be tough for better looking better ventilated everything than actual movie props yeah the the stakes are quite high you can't bring something flimsy to comic-con and expect to leave comic-con with that yeah including your ego yes there's always going to be someone who complains about like oh you're like this detail isn't right or like you know this character's hair is always tied in a ponytail or something like that so I have on the internet literally seen a guy complaining that a woman was too short to to be a Norse God it like a Norn giant okay you know not many of us are literally not possible yeah so there's nine million Harley Quinn's right there are so many Harley's yeah and I think it's because of the Suicide Squad I was wondering also done is it possible that this is one aspect of this costume is you can get really reckon up no thought for God's sake man 10 yeah you can you could wear very little clothing and it will instantly recognizable but at the same time I think you could go for like flat shoes and you would still look like a good Harley which they should be a tactical yeah it's it was in terms of comic-con it was a very good forgiving choice because it was hot as balls and yeah and you know it's just like a breathable shirt like henley shirt and then booty shorts and fishnets like it's very good for warm weather um and i saw very a ton of Suicide Squad Harley's but very very few like other variations well just like exactly like the original batman the animated series like there's I think there's like one true rendition of that in the gallery I did but um and I talked to the cosplayer and she said like oh I'm doing everything indoors it's too hot go outside yeah you know that I was dying and I'm you know just wearing a t-shirt you know yeah I mean you know in pants so they're very irritable yeah we really they said I had to I'd svcc they had a bunch of deadpool's which you know is even worse than oh yes Oh herrlich mean I saw a good couple of deadpool's there yeah i mean not and that incredible i saw yeah there's no the incredibles family yeah i'm like wow that's some dedication deep timing to plan yeah yeah that's exactly what I said um but yeah it was great I mean it made me wish I had dressed up because I I do some casual costumes myself I wouldn't say I'm a cosplayer but I it made me wish I like you know had you know my full batgirl costume or my assassins creed costume or something like that so I could show off a bit of my fandom too but wait I got I got your Batman cops oh no yeah it's not that good let's now proceed to different go miss Dean's pretense that she's not an amazing costume oh yeah if you scroll down there's like well why wait why am I telling you yes wars go through my twitter real quick oh here you go yeah oh yeah woman that's wonder woman and i said i have a hover hand problem like i do the thing that nerds do when they're super nervous around beautiful woman they like don't touch them they kind of just like put their hands sort of around them I mean that's one of the things it was very easy oh yeah yeah it was um and my version is Cassandra Cain who is like I don't I know she's not that popular but she's like a I mean that's that's cool street cred at Comic ok very obscure yeah one thing I love about the way he did costumes is you you always put your posture into it like you really like in that you're really creating the character at the way you're standing it's not just about like I'm waiting at you yeah that's actually something I know and I I appreciate that but I'm it's something i'm still very much learning to do from my friends who are more hardcore cosplayers but i noticed at comic-con when i asked for a photo they'd usually say sure and then like immediately like get into some sort of like really really good practiced pose for their costumes like I I mean because they expect to be photographed so they they want to make sure that they look good and that comes down to even things like making sure they get the just the right pose down and it was really amazing to see them in action so cool yeah Jeff did anyone recognize spark man where your fans there well no I said I was you know I was keeping it on the down-low so also i didn't i didn't actually go like walking around the floor very much because um i have like issues with large groups of people so naturally I would go to comic-con cuz I'm smart uh no actually I spent most of my time like in ballroom 20 checking out the panels ballroom 20 thankfully is very nice air-conditioned I appreciated that and you sent us a lot of articles you reported on a lot I don't yeah yeah I actually did like actual work things while I was there it wasn't all just for fun tell us about it uh so I saw some panels and now so like what I guess wednesday i went to some of the the pilot previews they i watched riverdale the Archie show and powerless which is the first dc-based comedy and those one might say playing against type yeah yeah um it's um it was just I i I've it's like all the days are kind of blending together at this point um not you do either those get your stamp of approval oh yeah yeah those are you know I was actually surprised cuz um I with Riverdale especially I was a little skeptical because you know I grew up reading Archie comics and you know I have certain expectations of them and when I first read the description how it's gonna be like this dark you know kind of like twin peaks he kind of thing and I was like well you know because they have like the the afterlife with Archie titles and they've had lark in the 60s they did like Archie's the Archie kids as like actual superheroes and stuff like that I so it's not like you know unheard of for them to do like this huge like genre shift but he said Archie vs predator already oh no no and and they met they met the Punisher um they even teamed up with the I think there was a sharknado crossover recently which I have not checked out yet but I mean how could I not like that you know but um that the thing that threw me off the most initially before I watched it was that when they mentioned that that like Archie was involved with miss Grundy and like it makes sense in the context of the show because miss Grundy is young and very attractive but i'm thinking of like the comic miss grande using like white hair she's sometimes they drew with like having one giant tooth in the front um so that wasn't you know there's a little bit of a change to get used to but um I I kind of dug it I mean it's it seems like it could go like horrifically off the rails but like in the awesomest way um so I mean either way I'm kind of down to watch it and then powerless I really liked um because I'm a fan of workplace comedies I've as a lot and I said in what i wrote as long as it's not a lot of like you know oh I understood that reference kind of stuff like where you know they throw out the the comic references and stuff you know as long as the it's a comedy first and it just happens to take place in the DC Universe I think it should do fine I did get to see it twice uh and you know people were laughing at all that I mean I still chuckled and I had just seen it like a day or two prior so um those were cool and then I saw the trailer the teaser trailer for the Luke Cage show yeah I want to know holy crap that looks awesome um you know the thing that I noticed the most about the end if you watch the trailer you see this the way that he just beats the crap out of everybody it is just like like nonchalant ass-kicking you know it's it's like very fluid and graceful and I just it looks really neat yeah they're trying to convey his invulnerability yeah he doesn't really have to stress out about people shooting at him because he knows nothing is going to happen like the wu-tang music oh yeah just beating everyone to death with a car door so cool stays up in a bender yeah I wonder if he goes thrift shopping cuz his clothes often have to get replaced actually this is addressed in the original I'm just getting started that like cool first of all I'd like to apologize for going actually in the comics without sorry about that but I also wanted to express a little dubiousness here um I mean I liked him and Jessica Jones but the character he's playing definitely seems very like sweet and innocent like the only part writing flick he was doing a good job when he was supposed to only be angry and threatening mm-hmm and it seems like his individual show here is trying to be more like angry and threatening so I'm just wondering he can pull it off what do you think Jeff I think so okay you actually saw them right oh yeah yeah yeah I mean it's there wasn't like one specific thing that just like sold it to him it was just kind of like the overall like how everything meshes together um they showed a couple of scenes there and there was like some really great framing of the shot and usually I'm like I don't notice things like that but it was it's just just look cool you know like ihop that hallway fight in daredevil yeah yeah that was awesome um one take two yeah that's crazy yeah so that and that's a netflix joint though yeah Luke Cage one huh yeah that should be cool I'm I'm intrigued actually I didn't stick with jessica jones but i'm intrigued they also showed a little teeny teaser for iron fist and what sorry I that big fluffy beard what who would ever says you that with iron fist what's going on there sorry yeah you know maybe he'll shave it I don't know weird there I mean there wasn't like a whole lot in the clip so I mean it could have been like before whatever and then an even briefer defenders trailer I'm psyched for it though I like the logo and I like the music that they used in it and do you have that one student no I don't that's want to do yeah they may not have released that one later there was so much on the stuff that came out so much stuff that was released I mean we can't get to it all by any other favorites that uh know we haven't talked about yet I really like the flash panel cuz it's like you know one of my favorite shows right now and um all the DC show panels actually it just I I was really struck by how well the cast seems to get along like you know not like the we're here to promote our show let's look like we like each other kind of way but it like like genuine camaraderie when I watched that fully panel yeah the flash cast just seems so like they're having so much fun oh yeah yeah I mean like in the flash panel of jesse l martin and grant gustin were like tap dancing a little brief competition there and we're all waiting for that all musical episode oh yeah and then in the arrow panel um even though I have not watched arrow very much um I was you know I was still interested because of the enthusiasm they had about they also ended the the arrow panel by singing a song from Hamilton wait and then they really yeah you'll be back which I'm not going to sing speaking of dancing superheroes one of my favorite parts of comic-con was actually the cosplay masquerade because yeah what's up okay so so it was basically a fashion show / talent show with 35 contestants showing off their various cause plays and the intermission actually was when my favorite parts because it involves a dance crew called core i believe and it was just it just showcased they were all dressed as x-men and dancing yeah it was so perfect yeah oh man like just seeing if every yes I'm gonna love it I'm just gonna watch it again cuz it's so mesmerizing I'm just gonna say that that right there was the most fun Cyclops has ever had I'm tired I same goes for Wolverine I think every needs to grow beard oh yeah I don't know it's more aerodynamic without the beard um but yeah it was so fun and the one other thing that happens that I didn't really expect was a marriage proposal happened on stage well one of the contestants or rather two of them were you know in the middle of a kylo Ren and Ray battle skit and and you know as ray like not siloed down with the force like he got down on one knee and maybe I'm just bitter but I was like uh I know what this guy's and sure enough he pulled out a ring and knocked at least annealing kneeling leads to proposes yeah yeah and I just joked with Tanya who was my colleague who was there with me at the time that this is actually very much following the the the star wars tradition of being incestuous assuming that you know ray actually is related is related yeah if they're if they really are cousins you know um a lot of people come in and done on that tweet and someone also included the video but I guess we already looked at the picture yeah it's fine I mean that it's pretty much what you think you are you'd expect yeah but yeah it was very eventful and it was crazy to see like the fun skits that people came up with and stuff it was really good I actually have a question for you guys so I've read the were followed the live blog for Marvel's big presentation in Hall H and with a couple exceptions like they had a big skit for guardians of the galaxy apparently we're Ravagers burst in and oh damn saying a lot of jokes and there was a kind of mockumentary of Thor's private life in between movies where he was doing all these mundane things which they don't appear to have really we work and expected him to do that yeah and Marvel hasn't really released I guess it's a DVD extra um but for everything else it just seemed to go by so fast I mean yes okay here's this star here's the star here's this star we're very happy about this movie Next and it was it really like that we knew there it's hard to see how it could be worth flying all those famous people out well I didn't I want I didn't have like three days to wait in line so I didn't actually attend any of the hull age stuff but in and all the stuff in like ballroom 20 and the other room that looks like an eye chart for the name I can't remember which one was um 27 b c d anyway um some small room no it was a small I thought it was small based on the name but no that was the one where I was like out in the heat waiting in line and I was going to complain about being hot but then I'm like well okay there's Jon Snow in armor there I can't really complain oh yeah there was a jon snow cause player who really looked like Kit Harington I wish I got a photo but he was going the other way but I was like as he but you know when looks like from the back yeah well like I saw him and he was crossing and I tried to give his attention but there were so many people and someone yelled the king of the north and looks confused for a second and said I know nothing and it was that that was that um but my only um celebrity experience at comic-con was actually a gout de toute coming TV Wonder Woman 75th anniversary panel and she actually spent like pretty much all the panel's there she came a little bit late because it was supposed to be like the surprise reveal um but yeah she she was really she seemed really nice and she gave her insights on filming the new Wonder Woman movie and just like I mean little things like oh we had to like film you know six days a week for six months in like freezing cold conditions and I wasn't wearing very much and it was kind of uncomfortable but we did it anyway and yeah it it made me kind of excited for Wonder Woman I mean I wasn't I really did not like man of steel so I avoided you know Batman V Superman but I'm like cautiously excited for Wonder Woman I think it could be good the trailer can't look to me like something I would watch on Netflix which is a big step up from vs Superman yeah and I might actually go to justice league in the theaters I couldn't like that trailer yeah I dug I dug that uh the Wonder Woman lot one look really neat yeah like I'm like well cuz you guys know what I thought of Batman vs Superman it is slightly less than excited about well I think what we all thought well simple like it and you know that's cool I just was one of the ones who did hear it's very popular in the Aflac household yeah um I don't know I am reserving my judgment i will give Wonder Woman the chance but I'm not as hiked about it as people at the pan will seem to be so i think i have finally come to accept the fact that they're not doing the original Wonder Woman this is the modern character it's completely different she's a fighter it's more Xena hmm it's just gonna be different i snooped it looks like Xena yeah I think that's one of the reasons why I might be okay with watching the movie because I'm very much into Greek mythology and you know like her mother for instance like Queen Hippolyta and you know general and Anne Tiffani I think that's how you pronounce it like they're actually based off of like Greek mythological figures and that might be one reason why I'm okay we're kind of giving you a chance I mean I'll have to change some things because your old enemy was Ares war now she's a warrior so she works for him yeah how does that work but ya know it's I mean this is what they've been doing the Wonder Woman for some time now Jeff keeps explaining that to me and I finally accepted that we've moved on and things are different so plus I'll a crisp I yeah i'll give it a chance fair enough well i'm gonna force a connection a really rough connection to what i was doing last week which actually Stephen if you look at the very bottom of the google doc I just put in two weeks 12 a video went to an Instagram post we can throw up the video i was in cleveland while everyone was getting ready to go to comic-con for the republican national convention here in the US i went to cover how social media was going to cover the convention but interestingly while i was there I found that there was an odd like comic connection to what was going on at the RNC in Cleveland and I know if you've got the the video there Stephen but we came across these two guys who were in town from New York a pair of brothers and this guy was walking around with a huge like ipad pro size tablet and just sketching on the tablet caricatures of people he ran into in Cleveland like in comic book style he's a comic comic artist and while he was doing that his brother was filming him and they they called the whole thing blogging do you have that video Stephen yeah I'm trying to load it right now let's say you're going out for dinner plate a commercial find the best way to get there it's gonna take a minute it's playing a 30-second commercial yeah okay so yeah these two brothers they have the digital caricatures going on and then the other brother is a video artist and so he is he's videotaping the entire encounter you know of these people being caricatured and kind of getting a little bit more of a flavor of who they are then the entire thing you know the videos and the caricature is in the graphics and everything almond up on their blog and so that's what we were talking about on streets of Cleveland Public on right here snap chatters and vloggers to bloggers and vloggers yes bloggers that's actually not a word I made up but these guys have made up their own style of Gauguin we're doing basically is um if blogging is traditional media digital media and say for instance vlogging is when you're incorporating video in digital media blogging it's when you're incorporating graphics in digital media quaggan oh my gosh yes block we're glad loggers and we're glugging we run a Glock know what you're thinking and yes they're twins twin bloggers basically yeah Tim fielder has been walking around Cleveland and Tim draw portraits of people in town for the RNC right there on his big tablet and while he's doing that his brother Jim is filming Tim drawing the people and then all that the drawings maybe some video and some text all end up on the brothers glog which is at diesel funcom and 23 vlogging nice that's awesome that's super cool I'm sorry I just didn't they were there with comics cast sent you some some comments to the RNC and so I also ran into one of the guys that the caricature there the guy fish who had the the sick turban on actually ran into him how long I'm Slater and that's the the Instagram photo do you have that there we did a periscope live with him actually from fourth Street in Cleveland but my photographers with got that really cool instagram photo of him so it was interesting there was this kind of bizarre comic book connection what comic con was going on there was a little flavor of it even in Cleveland at the RSC that's awesome I remember reading about a guy who did this last year too is it known if it's the same guy first name starts fish yeah I would be I would be surprised these are these are like all new york comic comic book artists who were making the pilgrimage a supercool guys was already has much cosplay there oh i bet then as I mean cuz i know there's the one guy there who looks kind of like an oompa loompa but i don't know if he's actually cosplaying but i was just kind of curious what about pokemon it's a lot of Uncle Sam cosplaying there what there were there were a few Uncle Sam's running around and there were yeah a lot of the Act a lot of the activists and protesters had some some interesting costumes people in in the convention the delegates even had an interesting costumes not on the scale of comic-con and not anything I can really comment on more than anything there were just 5,000 police there were all totally cool they had a ton of I cops there um which I think was a much more a lot much less intimidating presence hey it was interesting everyone got along great I had kind of gone assuming that there might be some violence or protests breaking out but honestly by the end of the by the end of thursday i witnessed a guy there from the group truckers for Trump playing ping pong against a guy from the black lives matter movement so it was pretty it was pretty kumbaya nice so um I think that's about all the time we have any final thoughts on on Comic Con 2016 I want to sleep now yes see which is what tania's damn yeah I slept until 2pm p.m. yesterday uh which is very unlike me it was just a lot of early night or early mornings and really late nights of just constant working yeah because the team we had was rather small it's such a big event so it's we you know it was impossible to cover everything but um we really tried and that definitely cut into our sleep by a lot sounds like CES without the endless tables of iphone cases yeah yeah here instead of that I think it was like tons of like artists selling their work which was a nice place to get gifts oh yeah yeah and I think that's much more exciting than endless booths of iphone cases I'll take that any day oh yeah especially cuz i own an android all right well on that note I think that does it for the crave cast for for this month thanks everybody for making the pilgrimage down to San Diego and then back to to tell us about it and will be definitely looking forward to some of these things hitting Netflix hitting movie theaters hitting the airwaves and the cable waves if there are such a thing and we'll definitely be talking about them on a future episode of the creative cast so for Mike Sorrentino Christine Caine Kelsey Adams Stephen Beecham and Jeff Sparkman I'm Eric Mack see you next time thank you