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Wilson the crave past ladies and gentlemen i am your host for the credit past eric mack and i'm joined today by kelsey adams and steven Beecham at the scene at studio in San Francisco and Amanda Kooser also on skype from Albuquerque New Mexico I'm actually coming to you today from the offices of my local newspaper and the company I once worked for here in Taos New Mexico defined talents news one of the finest news sources between Albuquerque and Denver check it out and because apparently in my neighborhood it's the print media that has the best broadband connection so yeah there we go right there so thanks to the town's news for hosting me today and also if you're joining us in the chat room you can join us and chat with us on our YouTube in the YouTube chat room youtube.com slash seen it and you'll see the link for the creative cast their go ahead and join us there if you'd like to chat and also on our live stream page and you can also tweet at us at krave we're keeping an eye on that one as well so in today's crave cast we're going to look ahead to a few big days they're coming up soon obviously there is Halloween next week which is an important date and who I know eight people in the chat room are a little disappointed we're not in costume so it's like that it's a late right I'm totally in costume this is still you are Oh pearling cross Omega flying glass you don't see that everything it and as you can clearly tell I'm in costume as a international traveler here behind me okay I'm a cowboy on the road and so we got halloween and but meanwhile while we wait for the zombie apocalypse here in the US we've also got an election coming up just a few days after all hallows eve and so I actually want to start off with a little bit of political news before we get into the more critical question of the day involving zombies and bears but first here in America you know satisfaction with our politicians and particularly with Congress's and an all-time low in fact over the summer Americans were asked how favorably they looked upon some of our more popular politicians you know names like Hillary Clinton ran Barack Obama and they were Americans at the same time recently were also asked how they felt about popular star wars characters and when you mash up the results of those two surveys as the Washington Post did over the summer you find that Han Solo Yoda and even a Darth Vader pull much higher with the American people than Hillary Obama Paul Ryan or any other notable politicians in fact Hillary Clinton and Baba thet heart but polling neck and neck so I don't know what that says and they try to make that sound like a negative thing but if you think about it boba fett is a huge cult following and has done for a really long time and people hobbyist code incredible lengths to reproduce his armor his weapons I mean he's a very very popular character and so I think this augurs well for Hillary's at Kennedy so Hillary may have actually found a running mate it sounds like however there was one character from the Star Wars universe that actually pulled significantly worse than most of our politicians any guesses at who that might be Jar Jar judge indeed indeed Jar Jar Jar oppose very loyal so a a Biden Binks ticket is not the ticket for 2016 it turns out um god I'd actually love to see their campaign yeah there it is right there so you know with this state of things in mind I actually put out a clarion call on cnet yesterday calling for the formation of a new political party something that harnesses the wisdom and the popular culture influence of geeks and nerds and fans like us at tentatively i'm calling it geeks and nerds united that's or canoe which has a lot of other great meanings actually like to pronounce it just knew with the saionji but technically that's incorrect but as people will definitely point out in the comments but whatever so the real question though today is is what would this new party of geeks and nerds stand for I mean what is our platform you know I've got a few serious ideas like net neutrality free and open Internet the right of to access of information and as our comrade Maikel Franco pointed out he also supports the idea of resolving all international conflicts via one huge LARPing tournament which you know i'm all about that what do you guys think if we could actually pull off a new party of geeks and nerds United what should stand for I think there's a lot of political power in the geeks and nerds and I think they're all pro science which is good because our Congress anti-science right now so I think it's a win Australia would get a space program that's for you Michelle but winter for Michelle oh and we should also mention we are we're short a couple of nerds today we're missing Jeff Sparkman and we're missing Bonnie Burton who are both respectively at Disneyland and under the weather one being worse than the other depending on your perspective and how many kids you dragging around with you so I it's too bad they're not able to chime in although I do know that Bonnie's in favor of a robot about Butler in every home so we can definitely support that we did get some responses on Twitter from readers and Watchers free education for everyone which I think I think I given what we were saying about science and the lack of you know being a little bit behind the world in science education that we could certainly support that then all other kinds of stuff low cost for college a lot educational thing you're better paid teachers year round school year which is what you see in a lot of Asian countries that probably wouldn't hurt in some respects I feel into gaming time though just raising this is an issue that's that's a good point uh Michael ah is pointing me to the marvels Future Foundation nua note this is I'm loading and unloading it against hopefully this is going to be appropriate what do you think Amanda what party it's the Nerds I'd like to see an initiative for some nationwide broadband um just kind of get an end to these these comcast complaints Oh Raven yeah and to having to rely on on comcast I mean I'm begging for you know the company worth the worst customer service due to come to my house and not even having that option so something is clearly broken there here's the Future Foundation on wikipedia the first paragraph it has to do with science okay I've been becoming discouraged by how earth scientists view science in its applications mr. fantastic forms a new group to create a better future for all humanity gathering some young great minds mr. fantastic plans to mold them into a team that will come up with solutions to the world's problems cool there we go well alright well we can be the non-fictional component of the Future Foundation Center so if you've got any any thoughts on that you know the post is up on cnet right now and definitely tweet at us at krave and/or in the in the chat room i'm glad that one s Yami stands for geek so that that's excellent in the chat room there now I thought there was an official geek political party already um libertarians so pretty much every computer programmer I know as a libertarian got the people in redditor libertarians so yeah there's so there's the pirate party which is a real thing in several countries and there is a pirate party of the of the US and then there's also the internet party in Ukraine which is kind of awesome they they actually tried to get Darth Vader as a candidate this is back in April and we didn't we did cover it and he was yeah I love the mix of expressions in the audience there this is like during the fall do Ukrainian political party it's kind of funny ignacio li SI ellos el medio to him he packing up his evening have a scary actually that might not go over so well in our political system but but you get the idea and actually i think they did go so far as to submit his candidacy and it got denied although i am now go ahead i was just good i have recently seen since he was denied there's no posters all over Ukraine for to bacha so Chewbacca's they still under running I was just gonna say that if you look at our our article we did on it the picture of him looking defeated after the defeat was very eloquent I thought uh-huh I didn't know we had live footage this better this is him submitting his papers of alia so I'm just saying you know it could work for it could work for Ukraine and the polling seems to support this and there is a you know aside from the silly stuff like your stand I think there's a serious amount of power within the geek and nerd community that we should harness and to try to build a world where we all can all live long and prosper so with that see we're going to move on to Halloween which is the least scary of the upcoming holidays here in the United States and Bonnie Burton had a couple of excellent Halloween post which one do we want to start with the Ghostbusters is getting a reboot right did I do let's brief segue first yeah yeah do your psycho cuz I didn't understand it so you should do it um esteem Cena colleague Christine Caine pointed out to me that somebody did a study comparing the number of zombie movies and vampire movies made over the years in the US according to whether it was democrats republicans in office and um apparently there's some theory that zombies are more popular during republican administrations vampires are more popular during Democratic administrations because of the the fear of zombies as like the shambling proletariat the poor diseased people coming out you turned get your money vs vampires being the decadent aristocrats I feel like the empires are the taxing you know they're the sucking the blood taxing the public and with the Republican I just want everyone to be dumb so everyone walks around like zombies looking for brains so this theory has been floated and they have a chart and with the numbers per year where's that all right it's in there I put the link in there so that uh ok so the link the links a few years old I think it's from 2009 and it would seem that since then I mean at least pop culture wise we've moved into more of a zombie Fey about the phase arguably wouldn't you think with like World War Z and walking dead or is that not how it works well we seem to be having a big upsurge in both really lately so I don't know what are we gonna read party third party time it just made it just means we're screwed okay so what is it we're all gonna die okay Segway complete back to you hey it means we need about time to call on bears which we'll get to later uh but yes okay so in terms of Halloween stuff though Ghostbusters is getting a reboot and skinning a reboot for the ladies so this is a post that the Bonnie did for us doesn't mean it's only for ladies oh right all right I'm sorry starring the ladies and let's see who I think it is a it's a Paul fig or fig I'm not sure directed upcoming reboot and he's that he's the same guy who did the heat starring most McCarthy and Sandra Bullock so that might give you yeah some sense of the tone that we're talking about here well that the screenwriter Katie Dippold work gonna hate Katie Dippold worked on heat i'm sorry i'm scanning too quickly I thought um his comments about the technology were interesting says he's very into tech and he wants to have new and scary modern technology for the movie which is reboot it doesn't take into account the previous ghostbusting that happened I always thought the proton packs were kind of scared nuclear weapons right on their backs yeah that is a little bit scary so where is he planning to go from there I don't know well hat and how do you update the you know the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man because I mean now the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man is actually even scary I mean he's gonna be made all of corn syrup and he's you know the evil mastermind behind the obesity epidemic I mean it's I think it's more layers he is a stark pup a stay puft marshmallow man on this one how about the Ronald McDonald in his new social media friendly costumes remember that one we had an article about that yeah yeah that's me remind us of the horror um well they were trying to make him hip um for his new social media look it is a little frightening it's worth checking out if you like a scare but uh then knew Ronald McDonald that slept again for for a reboot but I wouldn't object to seeing him what would you like instead of the marshmallow manner where did you say you'd prefer to have the marshmallow again that's an excellent question you know I think I've got it wide open but the only thing I want out of this movies I want to see Kristen Wiig in it that's my one request this yeah that seems like a must is this the new Ronald McDonald oh yeah that's it oh yeah updated throwback roundel mcdonald but so i'm curious what are other female crave casters like are there any other franchises that you would like to see you know get a a more uh estrogen heavy cast in a reboot Three Musketeers oh that would be good that would be good I think we have to bring up the possibility of a female doctor who at some point well yeah every single time yeah follow the discussion I'm still waiting for um okay I completely blank on your name because I love her so much and i'm talkings and never mind carry on but you know she played the female doctor in Chris of the fatal death you know I'm talking about oh yes I do know what you're talking about tremendously funny wonderful actress yes Oh God okay somebody yeah pages from water really fabulous you know Patsy oh I love her yeah her but I'm totally with you I mean we've had a female USS Enterprise there you go you know I mean we've had some female starship captains and I mean it definitely seems about time for a female doctor I mean it's I mean especially since the turnover is so high how would it not be possible well the argument is that all of those incarnations are aspects of the essential doctor and that the essential doctor is simply not female you know which I mean why wouldn't that be true we don't know we don't know Gallifrey I know I have a feminine side that I get in touch with and I I would argue that absolutely the doctor has a as a feminine side as we all do but we're gonna start to get into eastern philosophy here really quickly if we go down this rapid a whole bunch further so anyway uh yeah I think I think this is a definitely something to get excited for it i am interested to see who is cast in it and I would second that motion for for Kristen Wiig for sure and I think Melissa karthi McCarthy would be great as well so uh but on to beer specifically your beer out of a pumpkin and not i'm not talking like the Seas noble seasonal pumpkin flavored or pumpkin pumpkin seed too funky yes yeah no pumpkin spice here whatsoever this is an actual pumpkin beer keg for halloween again something that uh Barney wrote up for us Bonnie fine I was fascinating crafty things she uh ya know she does a lot of him herself and then and then finds other ones as well yet so there's the the DIY video there um yeah well any of you guys be trying this this year I am allergic to beer Oh saddest thing in the world I'm surprised you didn't die last month when you went to that all Brewer town I know I didn't have a single one as tempting as unlimited line maritas are ya oh yeah killer sangria with this pumpkin too oh man can sangria oh yeah this is a harvest yeah I have a dumb question is it safe to drink raw pumpkin I mean sure oh yeah yeah it's like a fruit right grows on a vine so I think that does make it a fruit right yeah has seeds inside yeah toast the toast the seeds you're good to go so y'all pass on this anyone else gonna try it for us I'd like to I just don't have the time or the patience to drink the whole keg describing well we're gonna be busy with our halloween costumes anyway which obviously only only Kelsey got in line today but I know amanda is also working on her Halloween costume already tosa one of them one of the main features is that you're working with their well what I've been doing is fresh to the past week i have been wearing some staff to the future replica shoes this is a replica of the nike air bag minus all the nike stuff it's from halloween costumes calm has an exclusive on it and doesn't have self-lacing you know the Power laces don't work but that's okay it looks it looks correct but the greatest feature is that they light up alright that I honest I've been wearing these grocery shopping more than a band practice having a hands-on article will be coming out this weekend so well I'll describe my my experience wearing these for whole week the law kind of let you get a lot of comments from people who morning I get a lot of side I look in it try not to stare but it was a surprising how few people knew where they came from but when I walked into an apple store everybody in their new not surprising but i'll give you full kitchen this weekend you get a lot of comments from like a younger like say under 30 folks who think they're really cool but don't know what it's from yeah absolutely a lot of kids would would come up to me and say oh cool shoes and some of them had their own light up shoes you know how they yeah god those uh just got some from my son their Star Wars shoes they light up he he i think he broke him within like two days only one of the shoe still lights up oh well okay he's balancing the bouncer sorry I'm actually wearing Star Wars earring nice Oh 14 Republic and 14 anyway carry on what's up with what's on them the symbols for the Empire and the Republic I got him up etsy I have time on my hands so so Amanda are you gonna do a faux back to the future costume for Halloween or is that just for the hands on review well I have a t-shirt a matching back to the future two t-shirt that's us probably as far as I'll get I mean I kind of like to mash up some Marty McFly costumes from different across you know like a cowboy half of the third movie like the puffer vest and and then the shoes I can be Marty McFly across time yeah yeah like cotton Oh cotton across time for a little thing you could they even have hoverboards now that's right I got to be kind one yesterday was crazy yeah well you got to ride one yeah I got to go to Los Gatos um ride the hoverboard it was really fun that really happened I mean what's that like it was I just felt like I was out of control cuz there's no inertia or any you know there's nothing stopping the board from moving it just keeps going whatever direction it wants to go so I'd get on and I just kind of start with spinning in a circle and then some guy would have to stop and after a while I got used to it I could put my foot down and stop myself and like kind of control it but you know it takes a lot of practice for sure but it was fun it was really cool this is speed yeah well there was we were in just a very small little area so we couldn't really go fast but I would imagine it would go super fast if you wanted right i mean if there's no friction slowing it down then gather that can be the same yeah it's scary so this this is the one that's basically it's like the same as a maglev train right so you actually have to be over a certain surface and it's you're like a couple inches off the ground is that right is it that one yeah they had a copper floor I'm soon gonna find the video should be around here somewhere yeah they had a copper floor and that's how the magnet would conduct you know it would kill damn agentic field it conducts this energy that builds a magnetic field under the board so you're basically floating on a magnetic field you know it's very weird yeah but um and then they were a half pipe there too and there was another guy who could do the half pipe really well it's really good at it Wow so uh it was pretty amazing here of the video was really loud too oh I see but uh I was thinking about while amanda was talking about the shoes if I had the shoes yesterday that would have ruled yeah but yeah it was fun in a way nice oh this is where you were yesterday okay yeah so you see how just once it starts going in a direction it doesn't stop you know someone has to stop you or you have to step off of it fun and it's that it's just so delightfully misguided and so dude you guys there's a nice undershot of it I just thought of something incredible so so that's all copper you're telling me yeah and you can also write it on a on an aluminum floor you know there's other surfaces you can write it on but they had a copper floor others studios so you know last last month when we were at there was a tour of the motorola headquarters in Chicago and some of the other cnet folks were there and you know they have in the middle of that building they have in a big room where they test the radios and stuff that's entirely copper lined on all four sides oh wow that would be like the most incredible hoverboard arena hell yeah in existence that's what the guy was talking about to he's talking about having hoverboard parks theme parks and roller coasters and stuff so you know the future is wide open that's incredible that's particularly incredible after there was you know that hoaxes including Doc Brown took a few months ago that there was a real overboard but it was a hoax and now that now it's rio that's awesome Tony Hawk yeah they actually mentioned that and the meeting we got yesterday it was funny how did they--how did they hoax it oh here i think i can find the video but they just they did like a reveal they did like a reveal video or like here's the first working hoverboard it was fake you know but they never say in the video at all like they never addressed that it was a fake video they just kind of put it out there like it was real and may a lot of people got upset with them yeah keep the dream alive yeah all right well so back to you know our crumbling world on the Halloween theme Amanda you had this other great post about zombies since it is that time of year and particularly just just tell me about zombie vs bear and then let's have the conversation alright this is pretty simple premise the National Wildlife Federation is doing a series of videos where they look at various wildlife vs zombies and the first one is zombies vs bears and but the basic idea here is that zombies are walking bags of meat and bears like eat meat and therefore grizzly bears brown bears could just totally go to town just chow down on these zombies and actually be really good allies for the surviving humans in case of Apocalypse Now but do bears eat rotten me I think that's an issue here oh I think they'll kind of eat anything all right I believe that yeah i think that dope i think they go to town yeah they're scavengers they go through all the garbage cans in Tahoe and everything there's a really scary I want up close man yeah there's a huge credibly strong and they have these little eyes and look at you so who would win actually do we we get that in there bears so airs okay yes so having good bear was right now do they do they clarify Amanda like what breed of zombie we're talking about here because you know walking dead zombies are pretty dumb and immobile but the world war z zombies were like you know super athletes on zombies on steroids into the specifics on the type of zombies my biggest concern really is if we're talking a zombie affection that couldn't potentially affect bears that would be an incredibly dangerous situation because we'd have zomb errors it pretty much mean the end of humanity right there so we're hoping that this is not transmissible to to the bear population topic but I think any zombie they could catch and bears are fast you know I've looked up some facts on grizzly bears and found that their claws can get up to six inches long and they can bite through a cast-iron skillet so I think I think we could kind of rely on bears to be our buddies in case of zombie apocalypse do you say bears can bite through a cast-iron skillet that's according to National Geographic a grizzly bear can bite through a cast-iron skillet and you know how they found that out somebody tried to fend off a bear with a cast iron skillet there's no other nation that's scary you know what did they do like a zombie vs safari situation cuz in North America bears are kind of like it as scary as a gift and you tend to be able to get rid of them with a really loud whistle but like I mean if this were in Africa then you're dealing with like we forget zom bears you got zom rhinoceros isms on potty mrs. and zom Lyons has all her books like it would be the most dangerous really well it says that upcoming episodes will have cool things like Ravens and flesh-eating beetles that's gonna be really gross well so we'll see we also had some other smithers Ombey news I believe tell me I'm forgetting which one was yours Amanda what was some of you talk about summarize your zombie coverage for is rather watch with zombies and bears and then a very interesting thing from Tiger log cabins which is a zombie proof log cabin kit costs 113,000 dollars that includes all premature all the gear doesn't include installation flamethrowers or extra but you get a pretty well thought-out zombie-proof structure has reinforced slit windows barbed wire surround 360-degree views has a microwave and arsenal a garden area where you'd be pretty well set for a walking dead sort of situation if you had this particular blog cabin kid actually it's pretty nice inside I question it says it's only good for ten years so why why is why is there a 10 year warranty on that yeah there's a 10-year zombie-proof warranty I'm assuming they're just trying to limit their liability a lot that happens you know to a structure to deteriorate over 10 years so I could see what you might not want to guarantee it past that time period of course the difficulty of collecting on that guarantee I'm sure has occurred everybody they do it a medical proof of zombie activity if you want to collect on that guarantee right and you know in the case of a complete and total breakdown of society I think it's a well-known fact that the lawyers would go first and then the court system so after ten years what's the point of a warranty it can't be enforced anyway it's just logical maybe the last running water in the nation will be in the Patent Office the other thing hmm so you can actually get flame throwers that's interesting I only learned a year or two ago that flame throwers were actually used in the military and our real thing and not not just invented for games I'm confessing that that's all right so another real thing that we've been talking about a little bit on on crave is the return of twin peaks I'm jumping right to this one because I wanted to get into it because I've never seen twin peaks and I'm wondering if you guys have and if you're excited about the notion that it could be coming back I am excited because it's david lynch and I is he gonna be directing than you want to yes oh my god yeah i mean that's that's exciting just just that alone I never watched the original series either but it seems very odd no I've seen literally 30 seconds of it they were the last 30 seconds of the entire series hello we're gonna TV on Reitman the thing was happening that's like well so that's that I'm a huge Twin Peaks pan I mean i i've watched it multiple times the whole series i watch fire walk with me I've got access guide to the town I have a secret diary of Laura Palmer I mean I'm so so excited about this and David Lynch is signed on to direct was supposed to be a nine-episode run so just affect alone that he is going to be directing this I think we are in for a treat yeah so as I gonna pick up from that from where left offers it just needs to be time in between right yeah it'll be 25 years later it'll pick up in essentially modern day which i think is a smart move my big question maybe you guys can help me with this is it I really want to get this twin peaks sheriff dept t-shirt and it's got the Twin Peaks logo a little Sheriff Department logo but if I wear that around are people gonna think that I'm advertising that Hooters chain could be let me see what the tune yeah that's that's uh no you something auction with that yeah maybe I'll get a different one maybe a fire walk with me or something alright well well finally to wrap things up you guys what are your halloween plans before we go and for your costume plans or otherwise well I'm gonna be I have two sons and their 2 and 1 10 months old and they're gonna be Mario and Luigi and then ice my wife is gonna be princess peach and I'm gonna be told so hopefully we're gonna win some costume contest this year how about you guys now that it's not still work I'm still working on it to see I'm trying to poach ideas is really really what's going on here we've been talking about Frida and Diego my wife and I and trying to figure out how to work our daughter into that set up meeting but Peter kalo yeah so not not particularly geeky maybe your daughter could be like a painting yeah yeah there you go Vince bench she's a still I should she has to be really really quiet right yes you do that's the way to do it all right uh well thanks so much for joining us on the grave cast for this Halloween election edition and you know keep in mind go to cnet com / crave check out all the stories that we've talked about today and also check out the new party and you know let us know what you think a party of geeks and nerds United should stand for tweet us at crave and catches back here in November for the next crave cast any last words Kelsey atoms I was just going to shout out to Maikel Franco for his last song bees of lasers aboard this California train article um because of that and talking to Anthony Domenico another crave contributor I learned that Minneapolis in Minnesota and general is the center of paintball expeditions to shoot zombies they have multiple different companies running paintball zombie shooting trips some of them drive you on in a jeep others you're in the woods and it's really cheap it's like ten bucks for an evening of glow-in-the-dark zombie shooting and some of them are family-friendly some of them are not I think that's really an interesting thing to learn about Minnesota and I just wanted to show that with everyone that sounds like fun we have we have new halloween plans perhaps road trip time I mean hey I won't meet you guys there if you're willing last words before the zombie apocalypse Amanda Kooser no but I was going to tell you that I think I'm probably gonna dress up as a Tom Baker Doctor Who for halloween got my scarf and everything I'm ready to go fast and we should you know what we should make a statement and we should all dress up as female doctor who I think that's I can't wait to see it I can't believe I forgot Joanna Lumley name I'm so shamed oh thank you yeah alright well on that note thanks you guys we'll see you at the next crave cast you know the Capcom / crave you