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and welcome to another edition of the 359 podcasts episode 185 on Thursday March 16th and this morning we are joined by Ben Fox Rubin and Roger Cheng and we're talking about cars yeah we kind of I don't know talking with a fast and furious yeah that is at scores that's basically I it's the Thursday show so I'm not prepared you've already checked out for the way you can pletely check out I took the day off yesterday you're gonna go to the meet you how would be a really interesting scene for you at the beach in this weather it's like 20 degrees outside forever forever all right so we'll be talking about the fast and furious and see that's exclusive interview with ludacris yeah suck with luck in the Magus and yes the scene that magazine came out new stance yesterday and are there's the online the interview is available on our site I will be talking about that just a plausibility of some of the insane antics that show up in the delays fate of the Furious trailer antics antics that's a good work yeah I will also be talking about Google tango we got a chance to check it out at a local Lowe's and as well the lastly Google family link a lot of Google today which will allow parents to give their children children under 13 access to an android account in google services which they haven't actually been able to do legally the fair I mean people break the rules all the time with that but now you get a chance to do it and spy on your kids bonus bonus if you're a parent you're a kid that's probably not cool now yeah so let's let's get started as always if you have any questions leave them in the comments section Brian will get to them and we will answer them in three minutes 59 seconds from 32 welcome to the 359 when we talk about the top tech news of the day and all the other crap you want to throw it I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox Rubin are you a fan of The Fast and Furious franchise Cena had a chance to talk with ludacris who plays Tash in the blockbuster franchise when you get a chance pick up a copy of the magazine hit the newsstands yesterday check out the interview it's also online it's nice segue though to talk about the latest fate of the Furious trailer the latest movie the eighth movie is franchise which has self-driving cars and the rock punching torpedoes into tanks right so the self-driving cars thing I feel was just inevitable right that we're gonna see somebody take over all the self-driving cars on the road and use it for mayhem uh if that wasn't exactly already done in a Batman movie you know I guess I guess you might as well do it in a tenement period it's a great and in keeping with the fast-food franchise over-the-top scene which surely thrown swipes at our tablet and seemingly every car in New York City comes under her command it's it's kind of funny insane scene but it's uh it definitely speaks to kind of the fear that people have with self-driving cars the Hassi right even in the interview that ludacris gives seen any sort of talks about how he doesn't see a time where humans completely get you know sort of wiped off that the driver rightly trusts the instincts of human drivers more than a robot which is which is interesting because you would think that like a robot would have faster response time right especially with the way of processors of the way computers have gone faster and faster that I imagine that in terms of split second reaction time eventually computer is gonna override or surpass humans right right that being said it's always enjoyable to see Hollywood chumming the water and trying to scare the hell out of people when it comes to new types of technologies started with all for the sake of making a buck right yeah all right next up CNN had a chance to test out tango Google's new indoor mapping technology at a local Lowe's it can lay out virtual path for you to basically point out what where you want to but where you want to find the thing you learn I so you don't the bug an employee for directions you can never find one I mean like that's the thing that I find really frustrating is is that like if you go to home depot or lowes you can never find a person and if you joined a person you can't find the right person they're like oh I work in lighting I mean I think that's why the technology is fantastic or it's useful yeah it's wholly useful only sad part is it is only available on one phone grand novo fab to pro which chances are you probably never even heard of yeah I've heard of it only because it's a tango enabled phone right so you do need a tangle enabled phone and the good news about that is that more tango phones are coming out all the time so that's slowly going to start rolling out but yeah this technology is rolling out to hopefully to a phone near you unfortunately not iPhones yeah that's okay we'll see what happens in September also more google news google created a new tool called family link for android phones it lets parents set up their kids google accounts which technically wasn't allowed for kids under 13 and it lets parents monitor what apps their kids are using tracks kids physical locations maintain app installations established screen time rules yeah this is a lot of regulation there but at the same time it's useful for kids now you can use google stuff totally it's it's interesting because a lot of kids already have google account or android accounts you know they were I guess set up technically illegally in regulation those terms and services do you think kids are I mean kids with existing accounts do you think they'd they'd actually would willingly subject themselves that's a great question this new like big brother-type regime at the very least for new users parents at least have something to push their kids into yeah so maybe they don't actually know these these other less restrictive mechanics as sort of a first as an entry into android this is excellent but if you already have android using google that that might be a problem for a pretty convincing your kid well we're both parents well and what age do you feel you're comfortable giving access to android or to google for your kids like two or three Wow yeah well yeah it's really touchy these days i was gonna say like 12 or something what you know I'm an old man what can I say all right for more of these stories chicken sound of CNN I'm Roger chain I'm Ben Fox Rubin thanks for listening first and foremost shout out to Yahoo we're sorry the Alex and Cooley couldn't join us on this episode but we absolutely need to have them on the show if we're gonna talk about cars again that's jarett oh yeah yeah we'd love to have them on the show aye sir there aren't necessarily hard it's hard especially likely I mean even when they're in SF they're not really in SF they're traveling around yeah Showtime Chang wrangle those guys down or like Tim Stevens or any of them they're always doing photo shoots you know remote photo shoots remote drives minutes and I have much cooler jobs than us but obviously I know them Brian Cooley never misses an episode so sir stop by sometime right by the way we wanted to mention this on the show we didn't get to it else only four minutes I would like to send a shout out to Michael Haverly for being the one awesome person in the universe to send me a penny through venmo for my birthday I made that request a couple days ago just to see if it would work and here it is um Michael thank you very much sir michael have really your hero you are a hero and i will realize that one place you know ethically speaking you should then know him a penny right back yeah but it's my birthday presents bro I don't want to insult the man well it's the only come anyway doing the only petty actually different pay you're keeping the penny that he said to you oh I'm sharing a new penny Oh different penny all right really want to keep the penny moving on we got a question from yothu uh why is the project tango limited to the only the lenovo phone well I mean the Lenovo data or it's not no it's it's full of it's a full mature product what happened with Lenovo and Google kind of work together on this project for a prolonged specifically well no no not for low is just Lenovo and Google had a relationship to work on project tango initially was called project tango so lenovo basically got first dibs at this and they were willing to kind of build a phone to to take advantage of the technology it's not just a matter of software they actually had to have multiple cameras i think it's like four or five different cameras sense depth to sense different kinds of factors and so it actually take different hardware and so it's a little bit more difficult for a phone maker to go in and you know tweak their phone to include different cameras and sensors for the technology it's not just software so that's that's why you don't see it a lot hopefully tango comes to more phones but it is kind of a an issue if you only have one or even two cameras well at this point you wonder if that will become an enticement for other phone makers to start including that technology as an attribution or if the retailer's start to develop you know like a pocket thing you pick up on your way in with your cart yeah or build into the cart or something like that so you don't have to necessarily install it it's just pre built on today I'm shopping I would say the more cost-effective way I mean what retailers are hoping I think it's this technology goes into people's phone so they just pull it out of their own pockets instead of handing over and investing in these playing like smart devices yeah smart shopping tablets or whatever trust they build it right into the cart that would be something like that idea but I think Rogers right that enemy that's a liability on the store right and also write like how many people I'm just gonna make off the cart yeah people make off with the cards anyway yeah yeah so that I mean it's not like it's gonna do you any good outside you know were though right but there is some hope that like you know Apple I mean the iphone 7 has dual cameras set up which with depth sensors so the hope i think is with a sort of future technology as the technology kind of gets better Apple can incorporate some of the stuff into their cameras as well into their dual camera setup right and as more of the stuff comes out you're going to see more augmented reality capabilities this one was specifically with lows where you would be able to like go around in the store one of the other things that I've seen is I think Wayfarer does that or other you know like online furniture companies where you can see how a couch is going to be set up exactly in your house yeah so you press the button and then it kind of opens the box and shows you in like in the depth exactly yeah then we say some of the widest technology in at CES is here with a like an AR game where it kind of reads the room and yeah your answer yeah objects into like game I mean feature things yeah at major Congress last demo for I believe this out a non tosh.o which was the automaker but like you got basically with the phone you can see the full car you could walk towards the car we get closer you can actually get into the car move your phone around you can see what the interior looks like what the exterior looks like you customize what it looks like so there's definitely applications out there for and I think retailers see a big opportunity for it but it's just the challenges getting that technology out to devices props to Pamela for smart carts she called it she also wants to know if you guys think that the if the s8 will be a tango enabled phone I would bet know very little little too late for that one but maybe next round yeah fine what is it the asus zenfone is expected to come out later this year also with tango so here's the problem these are called phone makers that no one cares about the u.s. well that's probably why they're putting bets down on tango right because they want if they want a way to differentiate themselves yeah for sure um prom is just especially for US consumers like we're not we're not buy lenovo or a sous phones right we're we're buying iphones or samsung phones yeah so and and it's you're really looking at a very small segment of the population that's so interested in tango that they're gonna go out of their way to get one of these phone makes I mean look I mean the compromise could be like you get retailers or you get hotels to you know buy some of these phones specifically and make sort of specific apps for mmm you know for their particular service let's talk about Fast and the Furious let's do this you guys are more familiar with it than I am I'm sort of i think this is our fastest yeah I've had this like kind of love hate relationship with it like I really like that first movie which is compass grounded film based on an actual news story about the illegal racing scene well it was also a remake of a movie from no it wasn't a remake it didn't borrow the netball dinnae got it but the premise was off of an article August a recent scene then I started then estar to kind of drag out kind of didn't like it but I was played out then it kind of got better again with the fifth movie and has grown increasingly awesome with like each movie is it like it kind of amped up the ridiculous levels of done special effects to point where nothing makes sense anymore it's it's kind of cartoony but it's become almost like Avengers like and it's it's awesomeness right yeah they are kind of superhero away where they can't possibly they were I mean they were what's a John Rahn it's when the franchise began they were basically there was a cop and street racers and now they're basically international spies with MacGyver level skill sets right and they usually like it hack into anything they drive drive they drive cars like off of like giant high-rises a job signs like the last trailer he jumps a submarine while the rock punches the torpedoes Oh kind of Awesome and reading graves yahoo that is not a fan of movies without any of the ties to actual physics so do not like Star Wars physics in Star Wars what's your what's your favorite Roger Pamela likes fast five the best I agree I'm a big fast five I look that was the one that really was a turning point also they became super awesome criminal mastermind robbers and when did that happen I like what yeah at what point did they get all these skill set today like they brought back characters from older movies and they started tie it all together the idea of the whole family the family theme kind of I think it started it got created in that movie really all right yeah what uh I haven't even gotten a chance to look at the magazine yet what did lieu de loop us into in his discussions I mostly it was a she did he act a fool act a fool there was no reference to that at all i was a little disappointed that's my favorite part of passage is that song oh no you talked a little bit about self-driving cars how obviously he's not a fan of them yeah while he appreciates the technology again he still thinks that there should be a human behind the wheel that this is more healing place that is more fun though you can replace for him you can replace that kind of split second decision making yeah that that only human have versus computer so which is more logic based right I think he's forced to say that because he's a fast and furious star right it's like that movie would be so boring if it was self-driving cars being except there except there are self-driving cars in the next friday which is those are the those are the bad guy cars I don't know when the next fast fast nine right that I sign they're sleeping in the back some to work last nine the credit roll Google uh actually one of the more interesting things he fell he still just his main cars in 1993 acura what yeah like he's had two hundred seventy three thousand miles on it and actually I'm sure he's put a lot of acura actually effort into it well no like because like he's had the car for so long and they no longer make parts for it like Acura stepped in to help them like refurbish the car entirely no kidding because like it was the only one with one on the road so kind of kind of cool that is kinda retro tech cars yeah what if they bring it back because of that just like the Nokia that's true it does not beyond the realm of absolutely holy cow that'd be kind of cool to see though yeah i mean like look at volkswagen did with the bug that can it came back from the ether and granted it took a completely different spin on it but it was like the return of the bug and it's got kind of a retro if it was hugely successful and now we saw the detroit auto show this year they're bringing back the bus really well there's otherwise now the big the big volkswagen so yeah yeah you know the old hippie wagon yeah um it's it's a slightly different version of that and it's super autonomous but it's what is super autonomous mean I mean all I'd like to think the booth was across from us I didn't get to experience it but just kind of glancing at it basically look like a hippie robot on wheels so I can only drive drives by itself it seemed to yeah but again this was in the concept phase I can't tell you much more about it i'm not an authority on cars obviously but it looked kind of cool and it's like again like this whole retro tech thing is starting to branch out mm-hmm I wonder where else it goes yeah would Lou to replace his car with a brand new Acura version I don't know he seems pretty partial to that 93 accurate I don't want to know which model actually I come 93 acura I'm guessing it's an integra that's what I'm hoping for it's an acura integra because i remember back in my school days like that was like the hot car that you customized I couldn't I couldn't afford to do it but it was out of the honda accord those two cars were like well a sitting those three like I had a mind as my friends at civics we all have like minds don't know their mufflers I mean they've been full on kids in the back the yeah was I wasn't cool enough to do that yeah here's a question from mahfouz he says why haven't we seen totally AI integration in the new autonomous cars have you not seen terminator yeah well I mean I think we're common is stepping stone to that right now I think car makers want to eventually get AI full into it but they're things are missing right like processing power isn't strong enough network connection isn't there yep you need to have everything connected really for AI to work properly and on the regulation front we just don't have rules on that yet I think car makers aren't really wound and they're lying some yet push back yeah as well there and I think it's smart that they're going extra slow on this ironically because that's us you're putting a robot killing machine on the street right to sounds the sights of fear-mongering angry I mean to sound like that but bring it back to Ludacris just the idea that like that can be hackable mm-hmm it's a big fear and I think that's stopping both automakers and consumers from really embracing that idea and I think if anything's been proven over the past year that like literally anything can be hacked and yes it's any system can be and my interest is is if you create what is it atomic storage then maybe you don't actually need the cloud for these things to actually function properly they don't need an internet connection they could actually have full autonomous vision doesn't have them all connected right yeah well that way they would actually be able to like see each other I was just trying to think like how could you have an autonomous car that doesn't actually need an internet connection would make it much much harder to hack it you would have to like break into the car and like you know put a thumb drive in there so so to close out the show today let's let's predict the the next fast and furious we said they're gonna have autonomous car self-driving cars to an extent but what if they had like a spy GaN this shot an atomic storage chip onto a non-atomic car and or non autonomous car and made it smart whoa whoa oh my god I was gonna say something stupid like smart drones but that's way better right they should also and going to transform and then it becomes a transformers classic yeah oh my god yes make all of my money right it's we're basically this close to that actually out so God please do you know what we can write the script for the next movie that's where it would probably make the same amount well you guys got Ludacris is number still from the other games you're friends with a now what up Chris just you know transformers come on dude make it happen leave the same studio no no I don't know either oh not there not so before we close it out for the day we want to make another plug for our yes 200th episode coming up on marched 29th 30th I forget what's the 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