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hello everybody on planet earth my name is Steven Beecham producer of that Apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. Brian Tong what's up everybody hey welcome to the show we can't do the show without your Beach you know it's Beach and tonk all right Long Beach in town all alone what's up everybody welcome to show it is episode 106 this is Apple byte extra crunchy our complimentary piece to the Apple byte video podcast which I think it should be dropping in a little bit quite honestly but we like to you know add on additional stories that have happened that are developing it's always changing every day we try and keep you current and this is really where we can talk about all those things but you ladies and gentlemen boys and girls that are listening are always a part of the show we had like over 20 calls or something ridiculous this week right Beach yeah it was heavy on the calls and thank you guys was awesome a lot of good cause so you did Whittle them down but if you guys want to be a part of the show again call us at who's gonna say three years old that's really young since the last time they updated it bro that's crazy man I feel like almost ever I'd say like every other week someone asks me on Twitter or something like what's going on with the Mac Mini everyone thought we'd see some sort of a refresh you know it's kind of a sad it's a sad Apple it's a sad Apple birthday for the Mac Mini which has not seen a single refresh you know the thanks to that the Mac Mini was kind of like a breakthrough you know it's just the small tiny device it was like a full-on desktop computer and I did yes sir and everything I did have a lot of friends who owned them and used them and like lived and died by them you know and and I'm surprised that they just have not updated it for three years or just pretty unreal so we hit we get a lot of calls and sometimes we do answer questions within the show because the topic comes up that you that you asked us so our boy from our boy faz we think it's fast not fat but faz from Toronto asks specifically what's going on with the Mac Mini well lo and behold a Mac rumors user sent I'll you know an email over to Tim Cook and like Steve Jobs did in the past sometimes we get lucky he responds and then these type of the emails are put up on the net for us to see the readers name was crore and he asked Tim Cook straight up like I love the Mac Mini but it's been over three years now without an update are we going to see anything in the pipeline anytime soon Tim replied and said I'm glad you love Mac Mini we love it too our customers have found so many creative and interesting uses for Mac Mini while it is not time to share any details we do plan for Mac Mini to be an important part of our product line going forward best Tim that's funny though you like replied to it and was so like PR it was such PR speak but I also I also like how he has adopted the official terminology where Apple has created their own language you noticed not in that entire thing he's never seen never said the Mac Mini yeah he just said I'm glad you love Mac Mini and remember this is a while ago for people they don't I believe was either it was Phil Schiller when it was asked specifically like how do you say the iPhone or multiple iPhones he responded that iPhone is just you don't say the iPhone you just say iPhone and your timeout singular iPhone it's an iPhone and if it's multiple it's still iPhones you could say I have 35 iPhone yeah that's how we're supposed to say it according to Apple it's singular have 35 are all right singular and plural somehow my family owns five iPhone I've owned five iPhone in my life it's just making us dumber we're just we're becoming dumber I can't I can't get over that so anyways the letter Tim Cook says it's coming it's also aligns most likely with their kind of plans for the Mac Pro which they clearly completely ignored drop the ball didn't care about and only really responded if you recall after there was like a render of what a Mac Pro could look like and the community and people started like started talking about it and getting mad about the Mac Pro and then all of a sudden apples like oh yeah people don't really like the the trashcan Mac Pro we should probably create a modular customizable one that professionals like so we'll see what it comes out but Mac Mini look obviously this clearly confirms in my mind that there's nothing that's gonna happen in 2017 and if anything we'll see something in 2018 three years without an refresh is is forever in the tech world especially with computers that's a long time to go without a single refresh oh yeah big time big time so there's your update files and everyone else that was asking about we're gonna jump over to kind of keep you all updated with the latest iPhone news there's a few stories that have been popping around the latest is we have talked constantly about how the iPhone is expected to be in high demand and the product and supply won't be able to meet that we talked about a few stories where the initial estimation was somewhere like fifty million units then it dropped to forty five and forty and then I think last week we said estimations have been pegged at thirty five million units at least to get out there I believe by the end of 2017 well a new report according to digit Times and other sources have now said that Apple ten suppliers are reportedly going to be on schedule to meet at least the 2017 production demand you have to remember that production demand is different than consumer demand production demand is really more of a number based on how many they thought they'd be able to produce they would set that benchmark whereas consumer demand is gonna be a lot higher than that and it's still going to be a hard phone to get so at least it's not I think it would be worse if they said that they wouldn't they aren't going to be able to meet their production goals that would be even a bigger problem but according to a few reports from digit times and others uh that's not the case the other report that we have going out here is that we know that a lot of people are just waiting for the iPhone 8 and 8 plus according to Reuters citing China's economic Daily News the iPhone 8 and 8 plus production will reportedly drop nearly 50 percent once iPhone 10 launches Wow which is a big this is a big drop right there's already been reports that the iPhone 8 and 8 plus Apple hasn't talked heard they have not been bragging about its numbers and clearly this is because most people are waiting for the 10 although there are plenty people that are getting the 8 it's just it's not like the 8 is doing bonkers there were even early reports that the iPhone 7 is currently outselling the iPhone 8 but Apple would not confirm that they also didn't deny it either yeah so so when the iPhone X ships they're gonna cut cut production on the iPhone 8 50% is what that said right exactly and then that that would make sense if if clearly the numbers and the pre-orders tell them where all the demand is going right then they know ok fine maybe we have to tweak our numbers that that's the that's the beauty of pre-orders at least for a manufacturer they can kind of then shift and adjust how they've plotted out or planned for these 2 for the phone to come out and what inventory levels they Alec so there you go iPhone 8a plus I don't know if it's a shocker per se but that story just came out in addition with other iPhone news we know our friend Ming Chu quo from Kei securities who drops all types of knowledge and rumors and bombs on us according to him all I phone models in 2018 will likely abandon fingerprint recognition again all phone models in 2018 were likely to get rid of touch ID from Apple now according to quo Apple is going to completely embrace face ID it looks at it as a competitive advantage over Android smartphones we we talked about how Android manufacturers have been kind of trying to figure out and sourcing and looking for requests from similar face ID / true depth 3d scanning sensors for security purposes for future phones from Android he said I think the report was it the requests were up two to threefold three times what they normally are Apple looks at this as a competitive advantage again we'll have to wait to see how much faster it is I think if they can make it almost as fast as touch ID not this year but let's say in another year so I think it'll be great but we will see we we don't have a phone in our hands right now we don't use it every day so we can't really say that for sure but it's but you know touch I touch ideas still suit like I use touch ID all the time on my phone still yeah yeah you know like last week this was like just a big question and a lot of stories came out just last week about that but um so no we're not gonna expect anything under the screen that's done not gonna think about that anymore right that all indications point to that is not part of Apple's plan all right man so everyone's gonna have to completely change the behavior and your phone's gonna know what you look like and it's kind of a whole new world and they'll totally do it because they were they won't buy another phone you're in the ecosystem baby you're trapped we're all trapped in this thing man we're trapped I do remember a story last week too that I forget some analysts group addicted that Apple was like what two years in front of everyone else in terms of that technology the face scanning taking there were two or three years with it right yep that is correct sir so mean she quote Ming ching-kuo was the one that actually put out that article that it would take around two or three years for Android to catch up at least with the technology again the technology is more advanced from a standpoint of it is more secure but it hasn't proven to be faster yet that's where it has to evolve so like I put I put my fingerprint on the back of a pixel and it's super fast I put my fingerprint on the front of an iPhone and it's super fast will face ID be that fast all indications say not really but it's not slow either right yeah it's also like the first iteration of face ID that we've seen so it only improve over time but I still just the creep factor of your phone just like seeing you all the time and knowing it's you it's just creepy to me but it's no it is creepy it's it's kind of its kind of creepy all right here's some I don't know if this is shocking news we talked about the foldable flexible phone last week this comes out from the Korea Herald via the investor Apple is reportedly mulling the idea of launching a stylus compatible with the iPhone believed to be a new iteration of the Apple pencil now an iPhone with pencil support could potentially launch as early as 2019 the sources say that this iPhone is going to likely adopt a supercapacitor stylus type for pricey benefits different from the Galaxy Notes pen which is an electromagnetic resonance technology it needs additional components to be installed underneath that smartphone display this supercapacitor type is actually cheaper to make we don't I don't know how much more accurate it is or if the if the accuracy is the same that then it won't matter if we don't feel it then it just won't matter we do know that back induced December of 2015 patents had surfaced from patently Apple revealing that Apple is working within a Apple pencil that functions on an iPhone as well as a wider range of applications and devices from Apple O's it was a it basically supported the use of some sort of a stylus on all devices we know Apple is exploring this we know Apple is exploring foldable flexible phones we know that the bezel is phone aged is here to stay as well so this is just it's it what's interesting to me is that you know we had can you pull up you know what I always love this it is dated and times have changed but did you see that link I put up for the Steve Jobs video clip let's just this is again from like Mac world I believe 2007 and this is how Steve Jobs at that moment in time felt about a stylus how are we gonna communicate this we don't want to carry around a mouse right so what are we gonna do Oh a stylus right we're gonna use a stylus No who wants a stylus you have to give them and put them away and you'll lose him yuck nobody wants a stylus so let's not use a stylus we're gonna you guys the best pointing device in the world we're gonna use a pointing device that we're all born with were born with ten of them we're gonna use our fingers we're gonna touch us with our fingers and we have invented a new technology called multi-touch all right that's great great this is a funny sound bite it's so so funny so look it's hilarious the note is an amazing product and again this was back in that time like the note can do so many things that are fun and it's again it's not for everyone it's if you want that experience and you want to be able to use your phone that way I just you know Apple has talked so much crap about just not having a stylus historically even after SJ and when SJ dropped that keynote they've always been anti styles and it's just interesting how we see this happening and most likely we'll see one in the next let's say two three years or so but I just wonder how their story will change right yeah yeah like I'm curious what its gonna be I'm curious if it's gonna like connect to the phone or something in or how they're gonna market it you know that's gonna be a big thing that we're gonna that's gonna be interesting is how they gonna market it to everyone cuz it's very clear Steve Jobs did not want a stylist now they're doing it so they have to explain why and the patent also not only covers things like an iPhone but also included a MacBook as well so when I talk about this stylist functionality it's across their entire product line yeah so it's something that obviously Apple is working on and they've always been working on it so we will see all right should we take a little breather and show some love to our lovely sponsor let's do it let's 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to access things like the traffic on their access directly files from your computer in and out data literally everything emails passwords whatever you can think of so everyone was freaking out because of this now companies like Google and I think Microsoft and Apple are addressing this and talking about how there are updates available so what Apple has done is they have out come out and said they told I'm ores Renee Richie that iOS TV OS watch OS and Mac OS betas that are currently available have addressed this Wi-Fi vulnerability and they will be rolling out the official versions of this to customers soon but it at least has been available and is addressed with the betas at the moment so they're not look this is not this is a vulnerability that was revealed and it's not like anyone is using it right now at least that I know of so don't get all freaked out and feel like I'm never using Wi-Fi again you're just gonna have to really be diligent and updating your router software and your devices as this rolls out my assumption is that this fix to kind of protect yourself from the crack it's spelled kr ACK if you want to look it up it's pretty gnarly I'm sure that these updates are gonna come in like the next week or two so I just I wouldn't be too worried about it but if you get hacked because I said that then don't blame it on me yeah I think Cena has somehow choose to like you know enhance your router like fixing any router problems you might have but I've been needing to update my router too and chain and just if you change the password I think on your router would help things a little bit but I'm not a hundred percent sure on that but yeah I don't that's not a good not good news but thanks Apple for fixing it yeah ultimately this hack can anyone can access any device on any Wi-Fi network it's pretty gnarly it's gnarly it's yeah it's kind of dangerous so just be aware of what's going on out you know around us with that let's also jump over to this story I we talked kind of about I must have been like a month ago about how the FCC was asking or requesting that Apple turn on the FM radio in their phones remember that so a new request is now coming out from the National Association of Broadcasters who along with the FCC is urging Apple to add FM radios to iPhones now here's the trick right according to Apple they say the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 do not currently have FM radio chips or antennas that support FM signals and it's not really clear how simple would be to add those we talked about how the actual headphone jack cable that physically connected to things like the iPod Nano ended up being the antenna which allowed you to listen to FM radio on a device like that that was like the little square clip-on iPad iPod Nano yes judge - that's a genius idea loved it and we joked about like yeah it's because you got rid you there is no headphone jack there's a light you know there's a frickin dongle port now it's like come on guys so the thing about it is in tear downs of the iPhone 8 it does indicate that they use a Broadcom chip and that chip is integrated with an FM radio and so they're just basically asking Apple flip this switch but again I don't know if whether by instead of directly going into the port if from previous old-school iPhones and iPods even if that is the one of the reasons why it can't support FM because there's no actual like legitimate wide-reaching antenna we know how tricky putting antennas in phones can be the placement of it and and then if you're talking about an FM radio antenna that they don't want it to take up more space in that are in their gadgets they'd rather have the slimmest device with the least battery possible then then a thicker one that supports FM radio a headphone jack and a longer battery life yeah I mean could they make an fam antenna dongle or something and selling like $2 you know I think that would be a maybe the fact that we have to ask that question makes me sick be cool I have a little dongle hanging off and you like pull out the antenna be awesome you make it you may well I will make a Mar I just make a mock-up of it all right I put the story in the show because I liked it um there's this new new app called nude it's available on iOS and Android but the app is called nude and it's like called nude the sexiest app ever or something like that if you look it up in the app store but why is this important okay so check this out this app was created by two people and really what it does is it uses machine learning it uses Apple's API which is called core ml it helps them assist this and what it does is it scans through your entire library of photos it then using machine learning and being able to identify which ones are nudes and which ones are not it actually wraps them securely into like think of it as like a protected vault on your phone no one else can look at it allows you to delete them from both your camera roll and the iCloud if you want to but this is all thanks to this app so are the people at nude able to see all your nude photos yes this is a great question very good jump so what's interesting is because the nude app itself images are never sent to their servers or anything and it's possible because of Apple's core ml API the machine learning framework so what does it do right so this core ml the way that machine learning works for everyone that may not be familiar this term is right the brains were in the software but what do what does the software need to actually learn they need examples so for example if someone wants if the machine learning needs to figure out how many what is a nude and what's not it needs to look at millions of pictures of nudes and non nudes and the company said that the way that they did this to teach it and to get it smarter is they basically have it scrape naughty sites and porn sites to then learn what our nudes compared to what are not nudes oh wow so they're eyeing it porn to teach you that's funny yes so then that information is plugged into their app which is using the core ml the machine learning and then it's using that information to look through your photo collection protect it but it never gets sent to their servers huh but then they could also potentially have analytics on like percentage of Americans or whoever's using iPhones who have nude photos on their on their phones so I mean if they could have some personal information about you you know I guess the most they could do is like pop positives versus negatives right I mean they don't they don't actually have the the files themselves but yeah yeah they could say oh oh based on our app we know that the average American has blank nudes but the funny thing is that someone tested it and if you have man boobs it does count that as a nude oh no and boob man boobie is count as nudies oh no they got to fix that they're gonna they got to tweak that algorithm the best yeah if you have a beard yeah and man boobs it's not a nude well I mean very cool actually I mean I mean there's the I've been on the circus a few times I've seen a lot I've seen a lot of its San Francisco we see that every day Oh oh yes we do both so that's red they should just run that app in San Francisco they'll get all types of data that they never even knew existed totally um the other funny note about this is that they were promoting the app at the recent TechCrunch Disrupt conference and they said that a lot of people said hey I don't have nudes but can you tell me more about this app so anyways you know it's funny because it's it's a salacious but there's actually interesting technology involved with Apple's core ml that is working to us to help this happen it's in it's interesting I feel like I'm hearing the term machine learning almost every day with like Larnell how do you apps everything like it's it's happening all the time now so computers are learning everything that we do all of our bad habits all of our good habits just be ready man it's the it's an you know it's just the first part to Skynet that's all word that's all we're trying to get to yeah we're just we're just teacher we're just educating them to get up to speed with us right like people we we as a society can't help ourselves but see what's in a movie and then want to make it happen in real life like yeah we've seen it so much it's just the fact like if someone came up with it in a movie someone's gonna try and make it in real life now yeah flying cars tablets literally tablets like computer tablets that's Star Trek stuff man yeah I think the first time any tablet was seen was in like Space Odyssey 2001 a Space Odyssey nice oh yeah that's the first time that we ever saw like prior art to an iPad there's yeah I sat on a ship like looking at an iPad thing so it's interesting I can confirm to you that if I use the nude app there would be no positives yeah I'm not taking nude pictures of myself either man maybe my wife might know I'm just kidding now taking pictures of me I'm saying really funny stories not associated with me but I shouldn't get into it people are gonna start wondering okay I don't know why I said anything that weighs screenshots is what well now people gonna be like wait what were you just referring to maybe I'll talk about another show but but not today all right here's the this is kind of a fun one it was a quote from Eddy Cue I know we're kind of jumping around all over the place we're kind of winding down before we get to her voicemails but I had clearly had poor organization on the show cuz I should have put this earlier but Eddy Cue was recently interviewed by an Indian publication called live mint and he was asked specifically this is the question he was asked by them Apple historically has a track record of with industry to finding products whether it's the Mac or iPhone or iPod but over the past decade there's been a perception that the pace of innovation and the pace at which Apple has come out with game-changing breakthrough products has slowed somewhat what do you have to say about that here's what Eddy Cue had to say no way first of all the iPhone is 10 years old that is the last decade the iPad came after that and the watch came after that so I disagree vehemently with that and I think we've been incredibly innovative that doesn't even take into account the work that has been done on the Mac iOS and Mac OS from that standpoint where I think we've led the market when you think of the products that we've built over time you own a lot of them and you just assume that every year was a new product but it wasn't you can't do revolutionary new products every two months or six months or whatever they take time yeah he's right he's right but he's also saying that the iPhone is 10 years old like the iPad came after that like and the watch came after that look when it when he brings up those is like kind of the the big three the iPhone was asked under s J the iPad was under s J the Apple watches really Tim Cook's baby note I will sell you for the record I do love the Apple watch now as a Series three LTE version only because it fits my lifestyle specific use case of being able to work out and still be connected if I didn't do that I still think the Apple watch would be nice ish good but not a great revolutionary gotta have breakthrough product it just isn't and so you know that's what the question was I think what's really telling is that Eddy Cue was instantly defensive about it which tells you that they do have a complex and they do are they are hearing this buzz over the past let's say you know a couple years aren't innovative like people are saying it they don't want it to become a reality in the way that Eddy Cue reacted was clearly like the knee-jerk like no way we're not but if you look at the examples he gave there's where where's the latest quote-unquote innovative products they should have asked a follow-up what about the Amazon echo in the Google home why weren't you guys in that space that's one of the new platforms that is innovative Apple isn't wasn't in that game at all they have the home pond now but again that that's a great example that they should have followed up with well you missed that boat you know yeah I mean it's is still really early in the Apple watch so I mean it still does have the potential to be an extremely innovative product later down the road like I know they're they're getting into the healthcare business and all that stuff so it does have potential like we might not see it now but we could see it in the future and you're right like the the whole Amazon echo home pod thing there they are behind but Apple was also the first one that I ever talked to a robot you know on my phone like was Siri so you know I I agree and I disagree with him but they definitely have made things that I use a lot and it's changed my behavior I'm talking to robots now regularly I don't have an Apple watch but you know he does have a good argument there well I think the other thing when I see this argument and I agree with you but I also would say the iPhone was a hit right out of the gates like people were like holy crap the iPad the iPad was actually kind of poo-pooed until people saw it like after Apple's keynote I had so many people that told me whatever the iPod is a big the iPad sorry the iPad is a big iPod touch and guess what once people first picked up an iPad for the first time they were like holy crap right like they were able to get hits out of the gate even the iPod I owned the very first iPod that was only made for Apple users that was a FireWire based iPod and my windows friends at the time couldn't use it at all but when I showed it to them they were all like holy crap this is awesome but they weren't gonna buy it right yeah yeah so that to me too to me we haven't I don't know when or if maybe it'll be the Apple glasses whenever they come out but I haven't seen a product right out of the gate that people said holy crap yeah this is awesome that's and that's hard like this is so hard the people behind this are so much smarter than I ever be and so I will never claim to be smarter or ever claimed to be able to make a product like this but it starts with the visionary at the top and the fact of the matter is the Apple watch was Tim Cook's baby and it wasn't a visionary it wasn't a one of those you know amazing visionary like products when it dropped when it came out people like okay great it's like it's it's like a child of the iPhone you know like the iPhone came out it was so huge it's like a big wave and it's still crashing now they're still riding that wave and all these other products are kind of little you know little offshoots of the iPhone really like the Apple watch looks like a tiny iPhone you know so and I yeah and I think look I think there's room over the course of a product for it to vault to evolve and get a lot better like example iPad pro that is my that's still probably my favorite device over the past year one of my favorite devices that I guess well deco was earlier than year but the iPad pro is a great example of a product that finally when they decided to look at the software and create some new software innovations that made it at least a special unique product not that it does what a surface does but that makes the iPad something of its own it became exciting again so you can have a product evolve over its lifespan but I'm talking about even whether it evolves or not over its lifespan that initial gut check reaction when you see something and you play with you're like oh my gosh this is amazing like we haven't really seen that since this SJ days yeah yeah we're kind of getting that with VR now we are sort of getting that with VR you know and it's they stopped a lot of work to do on VR because people are not adopting it but we're getting I think I see I think VR VR is right now in an inflection point where a lot of manufacturers made stuff for it like hardware for but not enough software is there to support it people are have their you know companies have the resources spread all over the place you know you don't have as many of the top companies like the top game developers are still developing primarily for PlayStation and Xbox and then some on Nintendo switch but it's not like every major developer is developing for VR and that's its biggest obstacle like I have a PS VR and I'm not you because there's not enough stuff for it like it there's nothing that said you've got to use this so that's more of a software issue it's always software and Harvard together but again like right out of the gates man the software the hardware for the iPhone was like money like the software and the harder for the iPad once people picked it up they're like dude this is awesome and those are those are the experiences that we just haven't really been able to get from Apple for a while so and that's okay they're different company I just I want to where we want to kind of counterbalance what why Eddy Cue is so defensive but because it's true it's true it's just it's day I'm true that's correct it's true it's damn true all right um you know what I'm gonna skip this last story cuz we're rolling let's just let's go the phone calls beats are you cool with that is do it baby thank you all for calling with a lot of good calls you actually had a ton of calls and I had to really anyone did anyone ask tell them it's their birthday what's that didn't remember when last week we had someone calling sits over my birthday and we said happy birthday and we were worried that people would call saying hey it's my birthday - once you wish me happy birthday we didn't actually know I didn't have any birthday calls today well people are honest thanks for being honest everybody ok here we go oh I got music playing here we go and I'm gonna put to move this guy down okay here we go yo what's up Brian what's up Beach this is K star from Illinois listen I got a question about the Apple watch the third-generation one to LTE now as far as in your fine friends feature how would that work with the watch so of course you have to give access to someone to see where your location is at so say if I'm out for a run with the watch and my phones at home and someone wants to see where I am with a show where I am with the watch or what a show where I am at home so anyway I look forward to seeing what you guys got to say and you'll Brian well you ever in a boy band back in the day and stuff I know you're always singing and stuff I mean you got you got some nice falsetto there whatever but anyway thanks for the show man and I look forward to hear what you guys got to say peace J star hiphop yes sir everyone's like we okay store rules okay star so the funny thing about the whole fie my phone iPhone whether it defaults your watch or your phone I actually I honestly don't know that specifically I I guess I should try it out the only thing is that I don't I actually don't use find my friends cuz I just don't I think if you have a family a lot more people use it but for me right now because I don't I don't use it all because I don't like people knowing where I am like they don't have to know exactly where I'm at all the time it's kind of like I don't know it's kind of creepy Beach isn't it yeah it's a little creepy I don't I don't you like the little creepy I actually I'm not faulting anyone that does it cuz I completely understand but um I'll I'll try it out and see what it says I'll try it out and see what it defaults to but then actually that's hard because I'll be wearing my watch while I have my phone so I'm gonna have to have someone else do it so someone oh that's gonna have to track you where you are from their phone to see if it works yes yes exactly that's that that's the tricky part that's the tricky part so uh to be determined also know boyband but I did do like a lot of choir and like singing stuff like in high school and stuff I was one of those guys like we had like you know like that what oh okay a quick little story we had like whatever a tryout group that would then like you know whatever performance stuff for like senior citizen homes and like festivals and stuff we recalled the variations but one of my friends liked to call us affectionately the irritations that's a good one the irritations what sure alright alright next call cool next go here we go hey this is Matthew Paul from Brockton Massachusetts they love the show guys there's been 10 iPhones now Ranko 1 to 10 what do you think and Brian would you get your shirts those t-shirts I love them they're fire give me the website later I guess I got a show plug and do some love okay so I get my shirts from a lot of places but the main spot that I've gone to for years my friends at design by humans just three words altogether does by humans check them out they have all the crazy stuff a lot of and you're also supporting a lot of independent artists that come up with some really amazing stuff and then I'll you know I'll just get other clothes from other places as well but that's my t-shirt spot that's like one of them and then I also go on RedBubble like us sometimes I'm just weird like I'll just search for something on Google and then if I see a shirt that I like then I just like oh that's that's the one I like I'll do like Bruce Lee shirts and then I'll look at them and I'll be like oh that's the one I want and so nice I use this tool that you might not be familiar with called Google I hear that's very helpful in finding stuff okay wait what was his other question was about was the Beano rank rank are only icons the ten iPhones that are out but you know we talked about this before and there's too many to rank and we didn't own all of them so I think Britax Island all of them except one okay cool so do you want to do yours first you want me to do mine I want you to do yours but I think what's fun about this segment I want to encourage people that are listing guys and gals we're not gonna rank we're gonna try and remember what what we can but I think it's more profound to rank the top your top five iPhones okay cuz that'll that'll narrow it down and I think there's some clearer reasons why so what we want you to do is if you guys and gals call us or you can tweet me at Brian Tong we want to hear your top five iPhones of all time okay it's at Brian Tong or you can voice call in at one what was the number on the screen 1-866-606-8444 thank currently half my second least favorite was the iPhone one because I mean just it didn't have video there were a lot of things that didn't have but it was also extremely exciting when I first got it right so that's number agree to disagree on that one okay okay gotcha number three my third favorite iPhone was the iPhone 4 because I loved how you know I just liked how it looked it's kind of like in between 3GS and five so I chose the four just I liked how it looked I like the size of it it had video all that stuff my second favorite iPhone was the 3GS because that was the first iPhone that came out with video right so when I got video like I went I went crazy and shooting video all the time I think that was like 2009 or something 2010 second favorite iPhone just because it was the first to have video and my favorite phone of all time was the iPhone 5 because it was fast it was that new sleek kind of look to and it was like right sighs it was very light yeah lightning port it was very light in my hand iPhone 5 was my favorite of the top five how about you bTW alright so let's go back to low so just really quickly save the list of your five again you guys get on it so my top one my favorite number one iPhone five number two 3GS number four IR I'm sorry number three iPhone 4 number 4 iPhone one number five iPhone 6 all right here we go first of all I'd like to start off with the worst iPhone that was ever made it was an insult to Apple's identity the iPhone 5c because the plastic iPhone it got me mad people got mad at me for ripping on it it was completely out of character for Apple to release the iPhone 5c I had to get that out alright here's my top five I have four and then I have a question mark but I know that in my top five will be the iPhone 10 somewhere in the top five the iPhone 10 will land so right now I'm starting it off as the bottom of the 5 next up the iPhone 7 plus only because it was the first phone with a duel at iPhone sorry first iPhone with a dual lens camera and had that sexy portrait mode and it was kind of like the highest evolution of that whole iPhones 6s like that design the iPhone 7 plus yeah from 6 to 6 s to 7 plus that would be number four number three the iPhone 5s specifically because it was the first phone with touch ID and I loved touch ID like it finally brought that functionality of using your phone like a wallet that has been in Japan since I checked it out in 2002 like think about how long ago that was 2002 they already had fingerprints we didn't even have them here until then number two the iPhone 4 arguably the best iPhone design we have ever seen from a visual perspective the glass on both sides in the metal rim it did have antenna gate but I loved it from a design standpoint and my number one my number one I phone of all time is the original iPhone oh yeah well that started all the GameChanger it still works to this day it was an amazing phone like I have to say the best the number one iPhone was the original it changed my rocked it rocked my world I'm shocked that your iPhone one still works man that's that's pretty incredible so my order top five from one to five original iPhone iPhone 4 iPhone 5s iPhone 7 and somewhere the iPhone 10 so when you let us know we don't want the calls to be super long let us know your top 5 just go down the line like that and then maybe talk about one that sticks out for you cool right does that spare or tweet them out the other one that I do want to say though I think that is also should follow along the lines of a classic phone I think the iPhone se to me is kind of like a classic phone you think so yeah because the size the design it you know they've modernized it a little bit but it's not on my top 5 but I think the iPhone se over the course of the life of the entire iPhone family will end up being one of those kind of like iconic e-type phones because it's basically like the iPhone 5 right that's the iPhone 5 model yeah yeah yeah it's like it's kind of like the every every man's phone right that up just put that one out there for anyone to use it's not super high end it's not low-end it's it's like the every man every woman phone I'm Chu yeah I'm curious what people on the Twitter and periscope are thinking or saying but yeah give us your top 5 iPhones that's awesome that's super fun I like that right that's it man we're done hey Wei Wei you forgot one call oh do we have one more call oh yes this is the most important call actually I'm very sorry but let's listen to this real quick here we go hey Brian 51 this is mine I like your show I appreciate you you guys do the work and I just want to talk about bezel-less actually Apple didn't say anything about the basalis at the event then why's there so much buzz around for bezel a specialist specialist I didn't get that thank you that's gonna be the new like that's gonna be a new meme here for the show man bezel as basileis I'm gonna cut that out of this of the skillet please okay thank you for calling that is so awesome look the whole bezel listing is really just more of a buzzword across the industry a screen with no edges to give you a bigger screen that's the direction everyone's going that's why people are pooping on the Google pixel too because it's not a really a truly bezel screen I think that's bunk because the phone is awesome like it's not gonna stop me from getting that as my second kind of my work phone my Google phone so sacrilegious guess what yeah I do use a pixel for my work phone but my daily driver is without a doubt an iPhone come on I'm in the ecosystem I'm locked in like that so that's why people care about Basden as bad as bad a nice business we got to make a remix man as well as buzz buzz nice cool so that is it that is all of our calls all of our stories thank you guys everybody yes that is awesome all right we'll see you guys next time remember call us gonna do for this week stay safe have a great week weekend enjoy thanks for listening we'll catch y'all next week be say peace peace out