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Brian Tom what's up everybody apple byte episode 62 63 63 my bad did I totally mess it up we're gonna restart the whole show no just can't we guard it over no no no no extra crunchy extra munchie what's up everybody this is the complementary piece to our weekly apple byte video podcast today we're talking all things macbooks we got some iPad we have some iphone but we do want to start with letting you all know how to be a part of the show we continue to get your calls all the time 1 800 61 62 63 8 to be a part of this thing do you want to be a part of something please you want to be part of something I want to be part of something I do too let's do it okay so leave your name where you're from we've got some great calls and comments and that's what this is all about you make the show just as much as a we're just here to serve you all so let's jump into it right away still continuous flow the macbooks I think that's really just the hottest product that everyone is still talking about so we're going to lead with macbook news this comes out from our friends at slice intelligence based on irri seat data of nearly 3,000 customers and purchases the new macbook pro has surpassed in its first five days of sales it has surpassed other competitors really has dwarfed other competitors if you look at this pretty graph if you can't see it yeah Microsoft Surface book the asuste Chromebook flipped the dell inspiron two and one the Lenovo yoga 900 here's also just to give you a take of how crazy this new MacBook Pro has performed in the first five days it outsold the current 12-inch MacBook by seven times wow wow seven times that's pretty amazing we know there's a lot of a pen why you sound like you're from a keynote beach i'm really happy about this how they say this is that this is the best macbook we've ever made yes that that's a day's best macbook we have ever made bar none this is bar none so we know there's a ton of pent-up demand for this that's a given but it is a metric to show that you know what they're selling a lot phil schiller even said it's the most pre-orders they had ever received as well and just in case you're trying to figure out when are these coming out some leaks or rough estimates from third-party Apple resellers not Apple themselves have shown that the new macbook pros are set for a november seventeenth release we also have people that have received information from the big a on their online a kind of update status that the new MacBook Pros with the touch bar again the 13-inch without a touch bar has been out but that the 15 inch book and 13 inch width touch bars will soon be making it in the hands customers some people are showing their details as preparing for shipment oh nice deliver some time between the 17th and the 25th that's directly from apple it's like four days y'all ready for this four day I know I know so macbook pro people be happy and just in another story related to the mac pro I just enjoyed this because I was kind of like what's actually going on with this Apple has reduced the price of the displays that we're going that were released initially to complement them I ripped on them because look we know out of the market you can get like a fork a sec you know display non-apple LG ish for really a quality one roughly around 350 for me around 350 400 bucks for 4k and then there's also 5k displays Apple has reduced its called the LG ultra fine to display their 5k version was originally priced at 12 99 whoa whoa well they reduced it by like four hundred dollars yeah basically you almost did the math correctly go 325 I know I'm you're not looking at this I actually it's not because I'm Asian it's actually because I'm looking at the numbers here I did the math really quickly thanks I do have an abacus handy over here on the side if you'd like me to do that cool 310 cool at 325 reduction for that 5k display now down to 974 thats the last two I mean like they just announced it a couple weeks ago so yeah that's very unlike Apple to do something like that well get this they just recently reduced the price of the USB cable dongle adapter by like six dollars across the board that's cuz dongle gate yeah exactly and then like a week later they reduced the price of these displays the for the what is it the 4k display was dropped by 175 to now a 524 price point but it's like everyone's like hey maybe you should lower the price of that a new macbook pro while you're at it yeah joe says it's kind of pricey that's great they're like doing a real-time market research with their pricing as they release products this is amazing it's a whole new Apple ladies engine it's a whole new apple cooling it just like that it is pretty cool let's take a little break for our little sponsor we call this for those of you that don't know about this we call this the mid roll mid-roll time let's go let's do it support from this podcast comes from Salesforce Salesforce helps marketers get smarter about their 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running anymore i think the nintendo crashed amazon because it's just said hi oops sorry so we're going through this whole process and i know this is a process that people deal with whether its buying apple products or buying non apple products I saw Steven Beecham expressed the exact emotions that I feel when I'm trying to get a pair of Jordans on like a saturday morning at 7am he was like ah Rican out the lights the link crash and then it's like oh I gotta add them to my cart but it doesn't show in my car I know exactly what that feels and I tried with my phone check out with one click that didn't work doesn't work I know exactly what that feels like so you you you were pretty much screwed let's talk some new rumors new product rumors according to barclays apple and this is piggybacking on a lot of the rumors that we've had but a few more details Apple will launch a trio of new iPad pro models in March including a refresh 9.7 inch and 12 point nine inch versions of the iPads but we've always talked about this third model that could be a ten point nine inch or somewhere in between they claim that the ten point nine inch model will be an all-new bezel free design so you won't have any of that black border on the edges this according to barclays we've heard plenty of other rumors how the ten point nine inch model well basically because of how the bezel the bezel less nature of it they do report that this borderless design will allow to be around the same physical size as the current 9.7 and maybe that might mean we don't have a home button on this new 10.9 inches yeah it seems like we'll see we'll see what happens also kind of the standard stuff that has been coming across the line the true tone display is going to is expected to arrive on the next generation these models but marches all with march/april ish has always kind of been the ipad time but i will say that because we didn't get an entire refresh of max that i'm hoping that something like that will happen as well yeah it's better than that how do you feel about bezel lists stuff is it dude are you into it or well here's the things you know it's funny about that we don't have too many devices that have no bezel at all yeah and so the trick is always will they somehow when you touch those exercise you know maybe when you have an accidental finger swipe or you know your palms are resting against it will they be able to almost create an invisible border for us so that even if I have my fingers on the edge it doesn't move the screen yeah yeah you know that that thing some sort of distinguishing line between that but I think it'll look gorgeous yeah I mean I my first thing that comes to mind is fingerprints there's going to be more fingerprints on your screen but I that's something that we deal with all the time and also breaking it might be a little easier for sure for sure though I at least how about this breaking the actual the it depends on how far they wrap for example if it still has like a metal edge but a screen it won't break as much right but if you have it where it wraps pretty much over the edges you're you're more likely gonna break is often breaking it on the edge that's how I broke my ipad3 one time just it fell on the edge right on barely you know and yeah like and that's enough to cost you two hundred dollars or more over more or i would say more than that more than two hundred dollars i remember it was like 190 or something yeah it's it's never fun it's it's actually the one of the most it's one of the worst feelings uh and in first world problems you can ever have when you drop your phone and like you you kind of hear that crack noise like it just kind of yeah then you like pick your ball we're on dude but how many people still use them one that cracked it's just you're not gonna like buy a whole new thing i know i see a lot of people right act phones like all the time they could completely cut their face up with it if they want to but they somehow manage they somehow manage i'm also from this Barclays report they claim again kind of piggybacking on some of the things we've heard but add a few new pieces of information they believe the iphone 8 design will be again bezel asst but coming in two different sizes a 5-inch and 5.8 inch curved screens according to this article because of the removal of the bezel that will allow the actual physical screen size to be larger I see so that 4.7 inch or na bad boy is that one what does that one this is my iphone 6 what size is that though i forget its i believe it's 47 and the the six or sorry the 7s is like a 5.5 if i recall correctly and then the iphone SE is a 4-inch screen which is actually kind of the single one an old-school so we'll find out about this also people have been asking yo what's what's going on with the iPods or the air pods i wanted to address this specifically to our friend Bob from was it long island island he called in but i was like a we're going to answer this according to reports we have not heard a single peep from Apple but a couple reports are saying that apple will begin production of the air pods in December what that moves we may not see them in time for the holidays if they do it in the beginning of december we might see them like but that's a big might because i still have to manufacture them make sure the supply is right and then ship them over seas here yes yeah it's I don't think that's gonna I don't think they start production they're gonna get it in like a week and a half or two it's gonna be more like three weeks to four weeks so we'll see how that shakes out but that's all the stories um I'll told indication and again I think it's extremely disappointed he also was wondering like what was the problem you know can we speculate on that do we know remember I kind of had this long diatribe about like what was to me that they didn't have enough controls but um I I think that it's part of it we have never heard a single bad thing about functionality at least from the reviewers who got the early prototypes that were able to use them so and even if they had specific problems a apples not going to tell us and be apples not gonna tell us if I if if you really think about I can only speculate which are you gonna try them out are you gonna buy a pyre I would love them but I just not gonna I can't afford one hundred and sixty dollars or whatever so for earbuds that you don't even really like in the first I'm afraid I'm gonna lose that I don't know what the sound quality is that I'm gonna have to charge like it they bring down the price a hundred dollars maybe no wait wait wait 60 lbs 65 for em Stephen Beecham the ultimate consumer hey Apple if you just drop a hundred dollars off that price I'll totally they're dropping their they're dropping prices on everything apparently so I wouldn't put it past them that's true I'll give you that much for sure um just some updates and software mac OS or I guess people ackles people last for Michael see ya 10-point 12.2 the beta is out actually the public beta but what makes this special or what makes this different is a you receive an update for unicode 9 emojis you know what that means ah you're gonna get emojis like a what what is oh they added like the bacon emoji they added like a clown fit they added a bunch of them but you're going to be able to get those emojis in mac OS Sierra sometime soon I'm just letting you know we're losing some emojis to write release yes a peach buttons there right there yeah they're replacing the peach but did we talk about this it was I've seen it all over the news like CNN updated it is frustrating I use that a lot in my text messages yeah why do you gotta change stuff man just like a lot I don't even have a replacement right now like I mean the eggplant is quite an iconic emoji that I use frequently as well be getting rid of that no okay they can't get rid of it can that's like one of the most highly used millennial I think yeah I don't know oh geez I can't remember off the top my head is the banana emoji is it a single banana or is it a bunch of bananas I think it's a single but it's peeled right that's right that's right that's thanks for thanks for the Intel is really important stuff oh my gosh and then also the public beta for iOS 10.2 is out and they give people if you have it you can sign up for all the public betas for free directly through apple's website i do want to remind you that it's really dumb to run that as your primary running a beta as on your primary phone I can't tell you how many be like oh just doesn't work as well I'm like you know why yeah it's you're not supposed to do that yeah like you can and you can get away the most things but I've had things were some of my apps that I use all the day like my sling player app that's where I can watch TV anywhere I go on my phone like a because it's connected to my cable box at home a lot it all the to almost every year when i try run a bait on it it doesn't work so when i'm on the road watching NBA games like warrior games dude I need that apt to work yeah that's a bummer so 10.2 beta is including kind of a steep peak of the TV app this is if you recall at the last keynote Apple showcase their TV app which is a way to really just use apps that networks and channels have already created to make it easier to watch program is this the TV app that I have on the screen yes it looks just like itunes like a music app i itunes stylish this is a exactly just kind of a few sneak peeks of the screens it's not fully functioning at all it is just kind of like oh this is what it looks like so you can't use it per se but it's not fully featured at all right now but it is very i2z ish I mean or Apple music Ischl yeah yeah totally looks exactly the same which is not confusing at all to call it TV like when you have an Apple TV but it plays movies and TV not TV I just have a feeling like you're gonna get lost in your apps kind of gonna be like am I in the music app or the TV app because that happens to me now with like Twitter versus Facebook versus you know Instagram it's like which one of my in now because they all look the same now you're you're lost in a glass cage of emoji exactly you can't gravity a glass of other weeps other politics as you scroll down becomes like a window with a picture and a caption uh how often do you it because you're trying to like do a billion things at once often you actually message people the wrong message do you do that a lot I don't yeah sometimes I i've done that to my dad and like embarrassing my death card me hahahaha I've done that a few times three times all right dad Saur Saur daddy-o also just to kind of get you updated with some also some iphone 7 News oh sorry wait before we go I how can I forget this I almost skipped our most important story of the show the more emojis more emojis okay saw these so unicode 9 is the recent was was approved like last year but the those emojis were put in a place or i think it was like in April or May I can't remember just don't accuse me of not remembering all this crap so the Unicode 10 has proposed 51 new emojis for acceptance which we would most likely see in 2017 including the bearded hipster a giraffe a like a sippy cup soft drink breastfeeding like I thought that was one that i did not know one's interesting that could be used for a whole lot of things in my and based on my texting abilities we got a little Shh we have like a pie a pie I like the Dracula one that's that one's pretty cool culturally relevant the Haji yeah there and X is a zebra and the pretzel I mean it's always pretzel time baby pretzel time pencil time there's like fo UFOs there's gonna be like broccoli if you scroll down on that page Beach out if you can there's like broccoli coconuts like make me a sandwich there's this one there's a point where there's just too many Modi's like I think look the art of the emoji is taking other things and kind of making up messages from them yes and when it starts getting so specific it kind of kills like you know like breastfeeding come on uh yeah that's like there's an actual emoji for breastfeeding coming does that make sense to you sure funny the more the merrier I don't I don't care about I mean it is hard to like scroll through like fine like that's not cool you know but even though it has your most recently used it's still not enough sometimes I'll be going through emoji so I'm like what the hell am I doing with my life except looking for an emoji I've said I've said that a lot of just in general like waste of time yeah also just to jump over the iphone 7 rumors according to Macotakara they claim that Apple may add what they call in quotations a jet white color option for the iphone 7 and iphone 7 plus now i think this would be really cool when they call it jet white it's more of the treatment right remember how they showed this intense video of how it was like polished and then we added i I don't know he's all this is like a 13 step layer process of anodization and polishing we make painting your eyes like so close so if so in tongues so the rumor jet white color could be coming again it's not for sure but I actually like the idea this again I kind of wish they released that crazy night midnight blue color that was really yeah like how the dope was that people were buzzing about which everyone was all about that they were like come on bring out the blue but you know before we even started the show today people got in the chat room before we even live and they're like I can't wait for that jet white phones like everyone was talking about it like it's weird how just something that simple gets people excited yeah like some just you mean like when any time Apple just says we're gonna make an announcement people just get really excited hey super excited like an Nintendo classic edition not coming up on my amazon hey it's I'm sorry I'll apologize if it's my fault that because we're doing the show exactly the time that it launched that you don't get one man i know you're checking right now i can tell hell yeah this section okay and then finally last quick story about iphone according to reports iphone SE unlikely to receive a refresh until early 2017 and that's really because they're waiting for the component parts to lower so that for the current stuff or you know based on the deals that they strike with manufacturers so that if they do make any upgrades they'll still be able to make their like ridiculous like thirty thirty-five percent margins on those phones but the iphone SE a very popular phone yeah i mean surprisingly like we hear a lot of news about it and a lot of people dig it yep super popular phone so um there you go i hope that last week you guys if you end gals if you haven't had a chance to listen to i know that the phone call he wasn't the best but it was more than good enough that you're able to hear our interview last week with steve blank because i think it shed a lot of light and just more than anything it was not to poop on apple but just to give you perspective historically of maybe where they're going but again any company can turn things around so I don't I don't I don't think it was incriminating some people were so mad at me they're like why would you do just a one-sided thing I'm like I thought was actually very fair how it was discussed yeah definitely you know all you do is poop on Apple I'm like did I not brag about Apple's solid-state drive speeds last episode no response that's what I thought well we talked about this they're just they're having a little slump right now you know a little we called it last year nostra Tongass beach and dong it this is a down year for Apple yes you could see it like you could see it but I mean this macbook pro news you did at the beginning of the show is very surprising i mean like we were all like oh macbook pro is so expensive and you know just not enough but it seems like it's taking off never underestimate the power of rich people so yeah all the guys not either right now my god i've worked oh they don't need the touch bar but i'll give them the 10 alright and then also just does a little teaser next week we will have our laptop editor dan ackerman a week we will have an interview with him so if you guys want to listen in and just hear pluses minuses and everything about the new macbook pros a you'll be able to listen to that yeah he's been living with it for what about two weeks yeah so so we'll find out how how good that thing really is and who it's for okay should we get to some more phone calls let's do some voicemail let's do it baby alright let me make sure my thing is ready here we go hey Brian beach Jason in Tallahassee got an iphone 6 and ever since I downloaded iOS 10 battery life is terrible my phone will go from forty percent watching a movie and drop in to nothing and shut off on me in five minutes any ideas thanks love your show yet so first of all I will say to I will I don't know how early you updated it but I do know for a fact when I updated to iOS 10 because of the way it really re indexes your phone to help optimize it I feel like the first week or two my battery life was getting murdered like absolutely murdered and a lot of people experienced the same thing it has stabilized since then but then the other issue that really come that it comes down to is a lot of times these new operating systems Apple will never officially say it but when you go to a phone that might be two years older or three years older it's just not really made for those phones and it typically can be more resource hungry so that also could be one of the reasons why you're experiencing that just purely because of how they choose to or not choose to support older phones I don't know if you can maybe you could email us at the apple byte at cnet com with a follow up I'm just curious it I kind of need more information that but my first hunch is if you update it very recently it's most likely that but the second hunch is also how they support devices and again this is an ongoing thing for years and they're you know they're here I'm also thinking like when you do the update it refreshes all your apps sometimes and maybe possibly similar apps that track you got reset to track you again let maybe you turned it off because that happened to me like I did an update and a couple of apps that i just had turned off where you know where they're tracking my location they were that was back on yeah oh how did that I guess I guess the app reset itself or something so that could be if you have apps tracking you then that's going to eat all your battery life there are a few ways though I will tell you again maybe it's something that you might want to look online there are a few ways to iOS 10 in general uses more battery life there's like a feature where when you pick up your phone it's called raise to wake your screen automatically turns on yes that's gonna that's going to use more battery life quite honestly and then also there's things like they added all these new widgets and guess what those widgets have to constantly be fed data to be updated so you can actually turn that off there there's a few things you can tweak with but I would just say try turning off raise to wake at least and then try you know there's also um like a background app refresh option than that again requires your phone to work to update that if you want to maybe only select a few apps for to support that's fine but just try some of those tweaks I think raised awake will help though actually oh for sure you know sure cuz yeah and then turning off the animations to like live just little things like yeah yep yep the motion effects oh yeah okay so next call yep it looks like the nintendo is currently unavailable again don't cry dry your comment don't cry dry your hey guys this is francis from los angeles california love the show just had a question about what you guys think about the apple car project project titan and its recent news about it being sort of disbanded i think a good strategy actually and i heard about this is the possibility of for example buying tesla and making you know i musta CEO at apple i think actually that would be a great strategy because it sounds like apple doesn't know what to do with their car project and what threatened to take it and they're actually years behind Tesla and other autonomous driving companies so um I just was wondering what you guys think of that strategy papal would be open to that it Moscow would be able to that with Tesla I think that was a 10 years you know up ahead again if they did something like that like they did with beats and music streaming service so uh yeah I'd love to hear your opinion on that and uh yeah thanks for i think it's i think it's a fascinating idea I also you know when you talk about who are kind of those next generation innovative minds Elon Musk obviously has to be on that short list clearly I don't know if you guys and gals saw what he's doing with roof tiles it's amazing the solar roof tiles he's on his way to being the next day job mr. like figure yeah for sure with the with the types of things that he is pushing forward with so check out those solar tiles uh they're crazy look I believe in what Tesla Elon Musk is doing because I put down a whatever it was it's refundable but a one thousand dollar deposit for the Tesla three like kind of jealous i knew do that because it was refundable right and at the same time like i don't know when this thing is gonna be available might be two more years three more years but i'll be in the market for a car then so why not at least have the option to like don't see what their see what they're cooking I think realistically though Elon Musk already has his own plans and ideas you know you might choose to buy you could you could buy a company Apple has more than enough cash to but if the actual if just cuz you buy his company doesn't mean he wants to be the CEO of the company true like yeah so that these guys he's got his foot in so many different things I mean they're he's going to space he's billing assault obviously there's a lot of things he's doing so I it'd be hard to get him to focus on one thing I'm sure and nothing he's doing you know again that's a great suggestion but nothing he's doing is what Apple's doing and that's actually part of the problem like his brain is thinking like ahead of what Apple's doing yeah exact you know he he's not think he's always thinking how can I like interrupt Apple well you know what I mean or what what is what did they call just disrupt it disrupted the silicon valley's buzzword exactly so um I think he'd be a great man but he doesn't really play in consumer electronics quite honestly now he's going for the big boys big stuff big big stuff so great called oh thank you okay next call hey guys heard from Salt Lake x is still chapped about no I max I'm need an imac it's frustrating as hell waiting forever and not getting on uh what's your thoughts thanks yeah do you need a hug bro look hike if the new imacs do come out what would be the price point like how I don't even know how much the current ones are I feel like that around fort I feel like they're around 12 99 1499 so of the talk about in a surface studio oh for sure no more affordable it better be it'd be embarrassing if it was more expensive studio quite honestly yeah um it was weird though because like they were really high when the first imac came out the new design i bought it immediately because i loved it and it had more than a power and it still does for what i do it had this cool fusion drive technology but then they kind of like went away from that it was is basically like a hard drive that was merged with like a side bit of like flash storage to optimize and speed up things I don't talk about it as much anymore I might be wrong but I think the new ones still have it but they just don't talk about it nice or it's an order to build to order option but um well you're not the only one waiting for new imacs plenty people wanted just knew max period not just new macbook pros my hunches will see something in march or april of next year just because they have to do something and i'm sure they're working on it so we'll see cool alright next call hey Brian how you guys doing my name is Anthony I'm cold from New York and I'm a software developer and I've heard all the complaints about the new macbook pros and I just want to play devil's advocate and say uh you know when I first looked at it having no ports I got freaked out um but then what I I look deeper and I saw how much those ports can do it really is amazing arm but the fact that you can't plug your new iPhone into your new macbook is completely retarded so I think the hell Mary passes if apple announces the iphone XR iphone future whatever you guys want to call it and they release it with a USB 3 arm and then you have one port to rule them all do you think that they will have the guts to actually do that all right guys I love the show thanks right yes great call it's not called guts it's called courage courage see spelled CEO you are a GE yes hashtag they could look they could they could do something like that it depends on how married they are or how much they really love their lightning look you make a great point because if they really loved lightning that much you would have seen a lightning port on the new macbook pros true like you really would if they felt like we've got to have this and so um will find out but again at the same time Apple has never on their iPhones if I let me think about this out loud and carefully they've never used a standardized cable connection they had that 30 pin connection adapter then they go to lightning they've never used like an actual USB USB micro or even a firewire you know that was back in the day with the ipod so historically they've never used a mainstream connection on their phones the only sort of thing you can call mainstream is just the wireless why over Wi-Fi yeah that's the only thing that they've really does Wi-Fi balita so so we'll see what happened I students yeah well we'll see we'll see what they do I think it's an interesting point and look if if it's all about being super thin I think if they use us bc and it actually can be thinner than whatever they have you know from their component parts and lightning they'll do it so I phone acts iphone future will wait and find out I like how people pick up on that name because it is dope it is done is dope I think that's the show man we have yeah we have one more piece of business we got to take care of oh thank you for reminding me of that piece of business I guess I'll just read it is that okay please all right Salesforce helps marketers get smarter about their customers and plan better campaigns that blur the lines between 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