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The OnePlus 6 is an excellent phone, aside from these misses (The 3:59, Ep. 405)

2018-05-21
welcome to the 359 I'm dr. Chang I'm Ben Fox ribbon mi as the wolf act are the 1 plus 6 reviews are out and they're mostly great at 5:49 it's a sweet deal for a count of flagship caliber phone but there are some little nagging missing parts so it lacks waterproofing not wireless charging inexplicably has less of a battery charge than the 1 plus 5t and doesn't run on Sprint and Verizon III I don't want to just completely rag on it because it's a pretty decent phone but I just want to get your thoughts on the 1 plus 6 I'm a Verizon customer so that's like an immediate non-starter for me and it's an immediate non-starter for like half of the country so why is this phone getting such good reviews if it's what it what is it it doesn't go on CDMA yeah it's basically because it's been able to package in you know most of the features for a typical flagship phone at a much much lower price at 5:49 that is a far cry from the thousand dollar iPhone Express looking at Samsung Galaxy S 9 I think starts at 7:20 right and this phone has some really great specs it looks like it has a great feel to it in the videos we've seen of it dual cameras on the back optical image stabilization for one of the cameras I believe and it seems like it's an affordable phone with really great specs again though the shortcomings I think are forgivable with that price point right just you know the reason why it's not on Sprint Verizon's because they'd actually have to make a specific version tune of that carrier that's not oneplus as mo they typically make one Universal flagship phone and unfortunately like they can't make us some tweaks just for Sprint Verizon this is a phone that works globally and that's why 18t and t-mobile or in the mix I will say that I think the bouquet effect on this phone looks really good so good for them and like or not it's got the knotch but you can turn off which you can turn into all that screens when it's off its off you don't notice it as badly it's a really small notch compared to the iPhone 10 or actually about the size of the Huawei P 20 maybe it's a pretty tiny notch and I still think it's one of the ugliest design concepts that's ever happened except it's it's the thing now like everyone's copy it's the mullet of phone design from now and ten years of like Oh what were you thinking with that it was a bad idea all right let's talk about Elon Musk he was in he was at the Leo Beck bake temple in Los Angeles last week I had a chance to to watch his presentation where he talked about his boring company this is this underground tunneling company and his plans to get us zipping around these little mini pods at 125 miles an hour wasn't he not gonna do a Hyperloop now he is doing a hyper listing ssin he is actually working on a Hyperloop even though he initially said he wasn't this is actually uh this is considered a loop it's shorter term it's not it's not cross country or it doesn't cross state lines it's really only within Los Angeles the idea is you can get from Dodger Stadium to LAX in about ten minutes is that good that's amazing it takes like I don't know 45 minutes an hour and a half in traffic so all amazing things but you have to want it for a dollar only she's good to be true course that's do $2 do $5 nothing costs a dollar anymore except stuff on the happy meal I'm generally afraid of getting stuck in this tunnel like I already get claustrophobic in tunnels there's something get stuck for like an hour you're stuck there what happens if you get stuck in one of the boring tunnels you'll be stuck underground you'll be really bored it sounds really terrifying to me all right lastly we won't talk about Amazon I've been yet a chance to check out there the facility specializes in shipping supersize packages talk to us about what you saw yeah it was a 1.2 million square foot facility in Massachusetts that's 26 football fields what just happened and it had it was the temporary home of a hot tub a 70 pound beanbag an industrial restaurant sink a life-sized Yeti statue and apparently people buy this stuff online and do they get two-day shipping not all if it was due date shipping they did send a javelin there and that was two-day shipping but some of this other stuff is absolutely not this is really nice it's a there's a great video that comes with the story should check it out that's it for more check us out on CNN or March or Chang I'm Ben Fox Ruben am i as the wolf after o angel sitting oh there we go yeah what was that alright folks you get double the doo doo doo doo corrected during the show that's what's at the low price point you know what it's on sale for $20 less and then we went live ah crud ok so the 1 plus 6 Corrections 29 better deal correction yes that's why 49 forget it 5.9 yes absolutely sold I can buy a case for it I mean I will say like the 1 plus 5t I really liked it it was a definitely a solid phone it's kind of hitting most of the checkmarks for what she wanted in a flagship the 1 plus 6 seems like a pretty good natural evolution I do wish that and I know they're talking to carriers but I do wish that they offered more support well that's the problem is is that 1 plus I feel does not have strong penetration in the US and if you're gonna throw out half of the US customers in the in the first place like they're just not even gonna be your customers look there that's a problem they're not there there mo has never been about being like a major player like an LG or Samsung they don't have a big marketing blitz that love there it's all word of mouth right so they've gone after sort of Android enthusiasts folks who are more comfortable using on phones buying directly from from a company's site on scene and so those are typically customers who are on 18 T and t-mobile because they're more flexible with it one plus is pretty niche right now and it's old and they're serving a certain market which is good because you have to be educated enough to know that it exists ya know that it only worked on two of the carriers in the US and then you're making that kind of trade off because you're paying not a lot of money for really good specs and it works on limited networks but I mean AT&T and t-mobile they're not like terrible by any means I know Verizon's huge and in red and yes definitely red no look the networks are all generally pretty good now so yeah if I think if switching to AT&T and t-mobile or like the one big deal breaker for you it's not anymore if you like those networks are generally fine it's nice to see one it's nice to see one plus getting some good traction in the US and continually like coming out with new phones here compared to some of the other smaller tier players like let's say like essential which we talk about and write about but like I don't I don't think I've ever seen somebody that's like a friend of mine or even on the subway with an essentials recently in real life actually see I'm like staring like a weirdo like boys it's a black TCL black very oh my gosh like it's out in the wild interview that / on the subway well you know I'm just the creeper like they're like no it's so I would actually if I saw some with a black mom maybe not blackberry because I've seen more of those now but someone had an essential phone I would probably try to interview them what's going on how do you feel right now I feel like you should take some questions good questions did we forgot all about you Brian I thought you were gonna chime everybody everybody forgot me out there but no one's forgotten me in the chat you guys are lovely thank everybody I'm still here I'm just running star viewers are the best right now is Brian Brian's the he's the favorite amongst the folks on the show so clearly all right question time from Pabu ba my question is why is this phone getting so much attention I would second that I mean I would say it's one plus has a reputation for making phones for those hardcore Android enthusiasts they pack in a lot of decent specs into a phone that is 5:29 there's a very attractive price point I think that's generally what it is the price alone has a lot of people interested in this phone and the specs like you were saying are great and the cameras really good and yet and the reputation it's not like it's the first one plus phone this is the technically the seventh one because the five T was the weird sixth one now this is this well they've kind of gone in this mode were they do two flagships now it's usually a 7 + or 6 and then a 60 and so the same kind of cadence of two flagship phones and don't launch phones specific to any market they just launched a flagship phone and everybody can buy it that's the sure there isn't they don't have like a cheaper alternative we've got basically two phones a year and if you like it buy if you don't well sounds like that used to be Apple kinda yeah I kind of and also they they sell out fairly quickly it's actually there they still have not wasn't one of them like an invite-only for a while they were invite-only and that's kind of how they got their credit but it's it's once they like there's like a limited window where you buy these phones so it's that kind of strategy has has worked for them in a niche setting with people who are or savvy who know Android who know what I think LG would kill for this kind of coverage oh yeah oh Jesus come on we've been here forever more questions alright more questions from sir enjoy op6 says it's water-resistant but claims and I quote a drop of rain shouldn't get in the way of you when your smartphone just don't take it out for a swim which phone doesn't protect from a drop of water does not I'm saying like everything's water-resistant to a point well this what's the point of trying to make a big deal out of this you can't dunk it underwater but can I dunk it on the court you can't that's it time affair no it's all the older phones that you know if you accidentally like dropped in the toilet or in the bathtub if you're I don't know like died you know you spend hundreds of dollars on a phone and then all of a sudden is just gone completely kaput on you the idea is is with the newer phones that kind of thing doesn't happen anymore which is a benefit yeah and it may not happen that often but nice to have that peace of mind mm-hmm the oneplus probably get in a year or two honestly because there's slightly behind on certain specs but the insides are really inside like the camera they kind of fell behind on portrait mode on last year's model this year I think they really that with one plus six they really stepped up the portrait mode yeah sure they didn't have a dual camera setup that they had the single camera and it didn't work as well as they said it did I think they really think they addressed that issue this this year do we know who's making their OLED panel did they make their own OLED panels because LG makes they made it for the pixel and the Samsung ones i'm really curious where they're getting that because i haven't heard any new reviews I haven't heard anything negative about the screen right now I'm kind of curious about that so I don't know that I've looked it up find out to the chat oh job we want to know from whatever that's a great screen name do you think this notch thing is completely wrong and overhyped I think we've stated that a few times I mean look it's I don't know what overhyped it's just become so Apple like screw that look essentially done not there's no notice because no one bought the essential of what Apple did was turn the knotch into an icon of luxury basically if you said assemble a status symbol if you have a phone if you have a notch in your phone that means you have the iPhone X which means you can afford the super expensive phone and now every company is coming out with their own notch phone because they all think that that's become that that's a symbol they want right which ultimately D values the knotch and means that the notch is no longer what it used to be and so hopefully is that means the notch will go away at some point I mean there's lots of patents and things I've seen that you could build a lot of these technologies in the screen camera spray the pixels we're still waiting for the fingerprint sensors in the hands for that they've had they felt pads for that for years now it's been a while they still haven't gotten around to it I think that's this was definitely a design compromise and they laser way yeah longer term though like we'll look at this as sort of a sort of a blip right before we got to the actual full screen phones I don't know the air pods we also thought was really really silly looking and I see them all over they are silly looking but they aren't saying everybody wears them though that just all the other kids are doing it dad just because it's like oh acid-wash jeans are back doesn't mean that's a good thing okay that's what we're seeing right now the Apple Apple can start a trend with a terrible idea and everyone will follow it away from the knotch so far so far so yeah I fonox outsells any other Samsung phone though does it yes you should top-selling individual phone people like their phone looking different I mean I like my phone I think that might be it that it's different enough that you know it's a new and better it's the newest phone with a new the OLED screen I think on the iPhone 10 is a bigger story than the stupid notch honestly though let's it's much better than LCD when it comes to display technology big fan of that but apart from that I mean Samsung's had that for years LG's had it they're just like crying that's what we like 1 plus why this is why we need is on the show more often not because of his valuable commentary because there's someone else who can keep up with my Simpsons references there you go let's take a question from Michael Brown well more like a statement and I think this one's going to warm the cockles of is his cold dead heart I feel like oneplus phones are the Android geeks dream with all due respect what do you think is are they is anybody said yeah I think that they are no no they're not they're missing some things but they are they're pretty close they're really there when you're looking at the price point you're like yeah this is really close to great yeah but I got to be a little bit more careful with this and you might if you are knowledgeable in phones you might go well I could get waterproofing but that's gonna cost me another $200 for something I also do I get a case or oneplus and make that work so I think it's also got the factor in like with Samsung which has all the bells and whistles I would argue that the oneplus version of Android is a little bit cleaner a little bit quicker than Samsung which tends to have a little bit more blood wear yeah but they've got a little lighter but I mean in terms of a clean version of Android it's fairly up there I mean I would still say the pixel is probably the it'd be great if Google bought one plus instead of the HTC guys now we can make it work together Google has a money buy both they should I mean I would kill what was his street cred though no wouldn't to get purchased by the big guy also it wouldn't work as Opel actually owns them and I don't think they're gonna let go of I don't know a goodbye Appa that's a little bit that's a little bit more pricey what's the market cap I have no idea I'll find my own three phone brands that are like in the top two in the world what's the other one vivo it's close to Android dream but it's missing a couple of features because of the marketplace if you look at this phone in isolation it's a really good looking phone good specs but you're like wait a minute that's got wireless charging and that one's got expandable storage and this one doesn't so expendable storage I think is the one of the bigger crux is with this without that cuz I hate it when Google's like oh yeah we're not gonna have expandable storage on the pixel so it's easier for you to manage it's like you jerks like I want to expand micro sd not in a minute it's at this point in the conversation we have to ask about the headphone jack does it have one okay from Michael Brown if the Google pixel 3 were like the 1 plus 6 would it receive this much praise yes absolutely especially that price point that was Google's original strategy which is why people love those Nexus phones and then they they decide we're gonna do flagship phones now with flagship pricing and then a bit of the appeal kind of wore off there you know arguably one plus could have been like a nexus partner if they existed at the time you know if you think about it their phones are really nice and like Huawei made it inroads because their phone wasn't like really branded his Huawei was Nexus I guess Huawei 6p whatever it was then there was LG's phones did really well as long as they're called Nexus before yes my god you said something nice about LG did really well because their phone in particular were the ones that were the affordable one yes Nexus 5 was just like a huge seller this was a pixel 3 and the cameras that's good and that's never gonna happen they're not gonna slash the price on the pixel for the newest you know they could do a small version just like there's the cheaper phone SE and se2 eventually coming I don't see that happening but it's it is possible I think I think it's gonna happen an affordable one that's good now we all disagree otherwise it's like I love fast I agree with with Roger I agree with Jen I agree with you I should disagree so with all this talk of Google ayahs you have a new Google show coming up don't you yeah we're recording it like right over there it's gonna be exciting there's a prime by the window yeah rightful from the window and there's gonna be people like smacking the glass I know I'm gonna be smacking that glass okay dude maybe we should show the fraud let's whoa what terrible let's take a look at the tapes do it check it out you want to know about Google Android way mo YouTube you should be watching Alphabet City it's the show that covers alphabet from A to Z what's alphabet you ask let me google that for you alphabet is mostly a collection of companies the company would consist of Google as well as other businesses including X capital and GB I know it sounds like a lot but we'll explain it all on Alphabet City you storm stoked yeah to stir alphabet what's alphabets like it's a company it's a major major major cause very annoying for all report alphabet or Google parent alphabet alphabet comma parents company of Google comma right thanks company you've never heard of because they just don't that's a better tagline I should say that in the beginning I might change my script now Google but you never remember that it's true that reordered happens what two years ago yeah ABC XYZ check that out yeah but like okay maybe calico yeah what is extending keep their fortune they have that then there's also you guys covered jigsaw recently right that's another one this is way mo I think that's because it used to be within and there's nest and that's complicated nest used to be part of alphabet and then it went back at matches part of google then reorg to alphabet and then they're like put it back into Google yeah it's all part of the same company is just really organizing the chairs a little bit also everything the managerial structure would change and you'd have a little flatter structure because if you got nest and it's kind of operating on its own you got this Google hardware division it seems like you could really have that work together yeah better as opposed to having two separate companies for that nice well I'm excited for the show because I need to often confused by the sheer number of little subsidiary companies that alphabet wait so how can I watch this thing you can watch this thing on YouTube you can watch it on CNN song really let's see where else you could probably watch it if you sit over there you can watch it when I shoot it at an hour - oh yeah you get some come over you know sitting studio carpet yeah look at the couch you can sit over there nice just don't throw anything everyone at the desk okay that's all I ask you know rip down the step and just don't throw anything at me okay we are almost out of time so we'll take one last question from Alex Mitchell this is again more of a statement but hopefully the tunnel we're switching gears over to the boring company here hopefully the tunnel will have Wi-Fi for when you get stuck it's Elon Musk how could it not I don't actually I don't even know how that would work they'd have to they would have to charge the more you have to work with like a Verizon well what if they charge $50 for Wi-Fi that's the sneaky part well let it look if you're on the if you're on this thing for 10 minutes it's not that heated well in case you get stuck and also you're gonna make me not look at my phone for 10 minutes that sounds horrible it's true thank you longtime strangers with bicycles you just kind of like it's like honey then you go into a hole this is crazy and you need Wi-Fi Bob look pretty cool man they got the flashy fluorescent APOD seem to have you know bathroom facilities well it's 10 minutes really what if you have a kid you know those things sometimes they don't really think things out just things you know what diapers are for a five-year-old that's true definitely 10 minute blitz yeah where it's you know you come very close to your like bathroom immediately and if there's any delays if what if it's 12 minutes look I would say if he almost promises a lot like like almost it's all unbelievable really but actually comes it actually comes a fruition in any anywhere near the scale that he wants it at I would I won't miss you we are we are out of time but I did want to address one more comment I should address a bunch of comments because everybody in the chats but saying really cool sweet things we will miss the old room too but the biggest benefit Matthew data points out is we do not have to deal with giant bomb screaming on the other side of the we will miss that you just going through the wall just putting behind that curtain cussing yell off-camera a few times just for old times sake go get a muffled sound bored with just random things but anyways yeah thanks everybody it's been really cool trying this out bear with us while we get used to the growing pains and the new setup and excuse me for dropping frames here because I did screw up a couple times today but show you pay for it alright Brian it's gonna be awkward for a while more than usual anyways who wants to wrap us up I guess we we don't know how to where's the script 405 episodes in you haven't memorized go ahead wrap it up for us 359 is available on iTunes tune in stitcher feedburner google play music the amazon echo and of course cnet.com thanks everybody for watching guys thanks for coming on the show watch over the bed city 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