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welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Tsien I'm out for dang so this happened late last week but we have to talk about the the Big Apple leaks from 95 Mac they they posted some photos of the the new images and specifically give gave us a name to work on the iPhone X s or the iPhone 10 s if you want to go with the official naming scheme and then a leak of the Apple watch series for not a lot huge in terms of difference with the iPhone in particular but it has me kind of confused about the the naming scheme if it's the XS or the 10s but there are three different ones tens or the ten yeah how's that gonna work I I you know what I'm not really excited about it I I guess they have a new color or something like that we going I mean I'm sure the camera is gonna be better I'm sure the processor is gonna be better I'm sure it's probably gonna be some new way to unlock your phone or like face ideas improved well I think the big thing here is the confirmation that you know we're all getting notches if we're if you're an iPhone user looking upgrade you're gonna end up with the knotch notches will be on all the new phones what if the circle on the invite was actually a very zoomed in headphone jack and they're bringing it that's variable thinking that is really wishful thinking and highly unlikely well we also wanted to talk about the Apple watch series for that's actually getting a facelift after three years of pretty much the same looking watch it looks a little bit flatter may be thinner I'm not sure and like the iPhone 10 smaller bezels bigger display give it give a notch on the watch to the notch watch well I like that the watch notch but you know what that at least that's something for SmartWatch fans get excited about it is at least a new looking device and a newish looking device next up we want to wish a happy birthday to chrome the browser celebrates its 10th anniversary the 10th anniversary of its launch today it's gone from this time project that was initially laughed at to know the most dominant browser in the world it's insane so Google Chrome has actually had the longest reign on like popular browsers out of everybody they surprised right like Internet Explorer yeah and it wasn't even like a default it's still not a default like browser that's built in on any figure I mean unless you're using Chromebooks obviously right but people actively have to like get out to use it right and look there have been a lot of positives for for Chrome we should list out the fact that it's it's really sped things up right and they've really kind of pushed things push the industry to move faster with browsers they made the mobile experience a lot better they've those helps up a lot of standards but it's gotten the point where it's so powerful is we have to ask if that's a great thing yeah a lot of people are turning on Chrome in the sense of you know Mozilla now along with other browsers like DuckDuckGo well no duck taco is a is a great search engine brakes are a blessing of have been basically blocking trackers by default Safari does the same thing now Google is kind of in a weird area with that because of the nature of how Google makes its money exactly you know as one of the top at probably the top like advertisers online you know they really rely on that tracking data so that's one issue the other issues you know if everyone's using Chrome then there's not really that much room for like diversity or changes or anything like that so like if you ever tried using slack on an on Chrome browser or even Gmail like they'll keep nudging it's like hey would you like to download Chrome yeah so I think that's like the bigger challenge for Chrome now lastly Facebook Google and Twitter are appearing for Congress tomorrow to talk about the impact of foreign influence on social media that's especially timely given the upcoming midterm elections what do you expect in here I mean I think you know a lot of it will be Facebook Twitter and Google basically running up what they've said for the last few months now the efforts that they've put in to try to detect these you know influence campaign from foreign nations this Iran discovery that was revealed a few weeks ago that will probably take a big part of it and as well as a response or an answer to president Trump's tweets about you know right censoring conservative voices on their platforms I think that will get a lot of play time as well all right so for full coverage of the hearings follow us on CNET or mutter Chang I'm alfred ring thanks listening all right thanks everybody for joining us for their court recording Wow yikes cannot talk today though recording of the audio podcast you'll find out where to subscribe and listen that down below and shortly in the show right now we're going to dive into the chat and dig out your questions and comments and keep the conversation going thanks everybody again for joining us let's start off with one of my favorite conspiracy theorist apec I think Apple leaked this themselves ooh why I don't I would like if they would leak something themselves wanted they'd leave something right there it was exciting I think they got the information from a 95 got that information from a source that was within Apple that like was accidentally streamed out so they I think it was legally colleagues are from the companies themselves right like this was this was an unintentional stream right they I think they were kind of running yeah they definitely wasn't planned at all this wasn't like a leak that they'd planted of all the leaks this if this you know this would probably be the most boring one I've seen right here's a phone that we've seen and well you know the watches the content was kind of exciting because it was confirmation that we are getting a different even if it's slightly different a tweet version of the Apple watch give me an Apple watch with a camera you really want a camera no but give me one like literally just give me an Apple watch for Valley yeah can't help you there and if it has a camera that's you know the better yeah you know we the original gear the Samsung camera like awful yeah well there was a camera in the the strap mm-hmm and when you did this it looks super creepy of course yeah walk around be like hey you do this without a a camera actually right but no I don't think this is a Apple's attention they usually try to keep a fairly tight ship obviously the leaks happen all the time with Apple so that's kind of a comical statement but Apple I doubt this was intended right you ready for another ready for another I'm not yeah okay here's one from Connor her and this was a recent one don't worry I'll go back there's a lot piling up from Connor Hearn why not the 2018 iPhone is 6.1 inch the five point eight inch be the iPhone pro itthat's why would we go that boring you know with the s convention if they gonna try to work in the S convention I feel like Apple does a lot of great things naming products is not one of them sometimes they're a little arbitrary right there like they have numbers and then they drop the numbers and then the add words to them it's all kind of it's harder it's a hard to guess what Apple is gonna do because they seem to switch things up a lot yeah remember he s e we're right the like that like name doesn't even really matter anymore well I think there's gonna be nice okay I like where they call it I'm just just purely name name naming alone like just that right right right what are they gonna call like the SE - I don't really like this doesn't make any sense I think they just didn't though for the sequel they just kept calling it the iPhone se that that might also work they should just do that they should stop with numbers and just like come out the new the iPhone yeah they just called the iPhone problem is though they've got three models with the iPhones I feel like it's definitely all like a marketing thing as IO do you have an iPhone 10 or you have a iPhone trans well it's gonna be a little rich are you it's gonna be a little confusing this time around cuz it's gonna be like via the iPhone access with extra small you can s what are you gonna call this thing numbers are a very uncreative name way to name your stuff yes so I think it was fine when we're at the lower numbers but now that we've gone through like 10 generations just call it the iPhone that's what like the WWE did that with like WrestleMania after like 30 they just started just yeah alright take a cue from Vince McMahon maybe like it's such a household product their name now that like you just call it that and you sure have the new iPhone you don't have to how do you how can you tell people that you have the new iPhone if it is a different name just put the ear on it yeah if they're gonna be laying them up at any convention anyway right just I've got the iPhone gone to 2018 22 and the 2018 iPhone except there's three versions of this so I've got the really big version of the iPhone or 2018 version there's a diversion we shouldn't even what's really confusing is the at least the rumors points you three models but they aren't like large middle small it's like there's the large one and then there's a smaller one that's kind of like the iPhone ten now and then there's another large one but with cheaper components so okay kind of confusing going back in my previous analogy what if they did this with cars what if there was like a 2018 Corvette excess Corvette XL I mean there are right I mean sighs but I mean literally car sizes no they're not sizes but they're trims right if you decide you get a Camry there's like the Le XE there's always different shrimp they know they sell the crap out of like they don't they don't know that look like sneakers either like you know they don't call it the Air Jordan ones like 2018 edition or something like that there's only one Air Jordans they sell right now but they remake they make like og edition no no but I'm saying like when they release one they don't release like three variants today kind of they do like they'll be like the Gatorade Jordans and like all these other stuff but like you just know it from like the way that it looks or something like that or you can look on the inside or I'll tell you the year I wouldn't know it yeah what I care yeah but like you can make the same argument for like people's phones like you don't look at someone else's calling I would argue more people that's the I would I would guess more people look at the phones when they do are hardcore but over here is largely the phone like woof-woof like they're the Smart Watch or like the Apple watch like just call it yeah like I mean they'll do like series 1 or series 2 or whatever but like throughout it they just say iPhone like Apple Apple watch yeah they should do that for their phones like just just avoid all this confusion true and the watches aren't as precious as a phone sorry to get us off topic I just had this funny image in my head of like clown car sighs sport cars pakka sighs as opposed to like a smaller phone screen sorry my imagination runs when Apple gives me boring headlines let's go ahead and take some more questions from suraíh and Ahmed I is the headphone jack back headphone jack back no probably know they have a notch yes all the offices all the time every I'm sorry to say if you want to upgrade to new I phoned this year you're gonna have to have a notch so you guy started learning to live with a notch because it's a lease here to stay for another year or don't upgrade your phone you don't really need to feed into a consumer culture everyday buy an Android phone yeah but most Android phones don't buy anything just be happy with what you have you know you're like glass to do for a pretty long time yeah I got a new phone every year Alfred I'll be the first to say it's been great working with you you do know where we work right yes okay I'm trying I'm here as the counterculture fight against the Machine guys okay from Rakesh this is really premature question but do we have any thoughts about where the price is gonna take us no I think everything we've seen is I think the starting price might be lower than last year's with that that lower end model with like the bigger size but the the cheaper components like no OLED display I don't know if it'll have face ID it probably will it won't have like the nicer camera I suspect that'll be closer to the original 650 or maybe a little bit more expensive that the pricing kind of began at the year before like back in 2017 they kind of started raising the prices with the iPhone 8 but I imagine the prices will be very similar in in alignment with last year's although what's the thousand dollar price tag that'll get you probably the bigger iPhone 10s fall of you do you remember when the 10 first came out and everyone was like oh my god $1,000 per phone yeah crazy no one's gonna pay for that yeah then Apple sales like just kind of like a hodge like joke's on you yeah and then the note 9 recently came that's like well yeah yeah what do you think we're gonna get to a two thousand dollar phone and why will it be Apple it will be for a while I'm guessing like a few years five years baby I don't know if you think it started out it's $650 it took us about 10 years 10 years to get to a thousand you think it'll be another 10 years before 9,000 though he'll be like it'll be like yeah maybe maybe 10 years I don't know we'll see how inflation works too I like APEC suggestion that the iPhones should just start using coffee sizes for names that would be so oh yeah well that's a Starbucks but I'm just go uh Liam and large I'd be okay with that give them t-shirt sizes if anything now they partner up with Starbucks they totally do it it's totally apropos I know I would be pretty annoyed because I get those sizes mixed up constantly I don't go starbucks enough to like know what the sizes are like i don't know what a venti is that a medium that's small what's that i actually don't go to starbucks yeah I don't either so I don't get I don't drink coffee yeah I try not to drink Starbucks coffee you guys are in the minority here yeah let's go ahead and take some more we got about oh maybe seven minutes left in this show help me keep an eye on the clock guys all right we'll the iPhone be dual SIM and that's coming from mode I believe the rumors point to at least some variants of the iPhone having dual SIM but they won't be coming to the US so probably be coming to India certain emerging markets where dual SIM phones are a lot more popular give me dual sims on the watches that's a big watch yeah I don't I don't need it at all yeah you wouldn't pay for the one sim I have the rumor that we didn't really break into we did talked about in the podcast is that I think the Apple watch is going with all LTE models they're not gonna have like a Wi-Fi all in the model like you have to buy you don't have to subscribe but you have to like they're basically breaking it down to like here's one like LTE plus Wi-Fi model for you to get you don't have to use the LG LTE capability but is there any ways that is frustrating because like you know the Wi-Fi only model was always like the cheaper cheaper yeah see what they get the pricing I do enjoy like you know if I'm I am really like I'm really interested in like using your watch as a phone just because like I would like to spend less time you know ranking at my phone all the time yeah that being said I know it's not exactly feasible like from other reviews that we've done like no bill if you if you leave your watch and just I mean leave your phone and just relying or watch solely you get like maybe an hour yeah yeah it's not it's not great yeah and also that being said like I don't even like I think I was really excited about when I first was like oh I can make all these calls with just my phone and then I'm like I'm 25 I don't really like make phone calls anymore right like it's it's all just text so I don't really need you can text yes so there you go hey let's say hello to our old buddy Carlos in the chat we haven't heard from him in a while what's up Carlos he says I told you a few weeks ago that the iPhone for this year is going to be called the iPhone XS or 10s I wonder if the other one could possibly be the iPhone 10 C or 9 C is this a very subtle way to like leak something to us because if so I'm very interested yeah I think they're getting away from the tents the C naming record no it's just naming scheme caller edition though right the C might have might as well have just stood for cheap yeah multicolored in one year they only did it once and they just killed it and serve like for gone it wasn't even just to change color I'd like course parts 5c 5s only the 5c is that long I almost got one and then I didn't yeah so that's the story that was a good story yep let's go ahead and take some questions about peripherals from Yellin R will Apple release a new MacBook from Alberto will they be releasing an Apple charging that see that's a good question oh so yeah the air power it's air power I believe the big charging pads that you can do your phone and your watch everything your uh your ear pods they introduced that last year and we still haven't seen it yet so I'm really hoping that we actually get some sort of confirmation on when they'll actually sell this thing because I know a lot people have been asking for it MacBooks don't expect to see any MacBooks next week they'll likely announce those in a separate event or announcement in October this next week will be all iPhone and Apple watch got it APEC why is Apple releasing the iPhone 9 basically a month after the iPhone XS and X why not release them all at once so you buy all of them wait what this is like a release date thing yeah that's gonna release dates why do they pile em online they did the same thing for the 8 and the time oh just just there is no iPhone 9 oh is there there's zero there's no iPhone 9 at all it's just the iPhone XS they're the three models they'll all be introduced on one day I don't know when the the launch will will be I think it's the launches will likely be dependent upon how quickly they can produce these phones and lasted quite staggering the release date yeah I was gonna say oh do you think that they'll spread it out like they did for the 8 and the 10 well the thing of it is with the 10 it got pushed back because they had to because of production issues oh it wasn't a strategy that they had to like stagger luisa if they could they would have released everything at the same time but there were production issues that slowed it down to the point where they had to hold that back a little and so and then even early on like at least they'd they sort of hinted at the fact that supply would be an issue it turned out it that wasn't the case but they were even sort telegraphing limited inventory with the iPhone 10 last year that's why there was a bit of a staggered release and but this year again to be clear there's no indication that we've heard of like an iPhone 9 I think it's all gonna be iPhone that's why I'm really confused cuz there's just on X now and they'll all just be XS X whatever and it kind of makes sense because they're all using the iPhone tens design scheme of the knotch right and face I theoretically face ID so it kind of makes sense cuz if you it just would be weird to bring back the iPhone 9 yeah if there's any one of those that doesn't have a notch like you know that's gonna read the cheap one well I think we all have not you yeah yeah according to the leak at least we don't know we I think we're pretty sure that the notch will be on every phone just the the cheaper one will have cheaper specs we got a couple late ones to the game here what's up James fever couple questions coming in at the 11th hour they're really good now that we've talked about the Matt the wireless charging Matt what's the status of wireless charging in new phones do we think we're gonna see a better improve speed how much so I think inevitably they're going to try to improve it but will it really be something to you know sneeze at secondly any updates to air pods or air pod cases that's a good thought oh we're getting new phones you're right you know what that might be possible lots will probably be the most exciting thing if there is air pod news honestly I hope there is some sort update to them maybe they're cheaper hopefully nah that's all right I'm just being I'm just being wishful there yeah there's a there's a likelihood we'll see an update I don't think we've seen a lot of leaks on new air pods or new air pot accessories but we might see something kind of like how we saw the charge in case last year we might see something different I don't know maybe they last longer yeah I mean they will probably do like some sort of like software update for it we're like oh this will connect like more easily with yeah yeah yeah they're new iPhone I don't think and as for wireless charging itself yeah I really hope that Apple starts speeding up the charging times other phones especially Android Samsung phones they typically charge faster when you're when you're wirelessly charging a phone so I'm really hoping that Apple has done a bit more world and worked with the the Qi the wireless power consortium this is a group that manages the Qi technology to actually speed things up a bit just a bit off topic just but I'm just some breaking news here sorry Amazon's market valley has hit a trillion dollars now Wow second American company to do this after a rapid okay good job Jeffy neither of us have a stake in Amazon so we don't really care yeah congrats to Amazon for hanging that mouse alright we are damned they're out of time and it's unfortunate because there's still such a great flood of comments coming in I'm sure we'll have a few more episodes about this in the surrounding weeks so make sure to come on back but before we go I just like that everyone now is like what's a notch are you gonna get a notch on the watch watch notch but before that one word I keep seeing floating around the chat is ceramic that would be an interesting thought do we or is there a ceramic material phone out there right now and when do we think Apple or any of the big boys are gonna go that direction I can't rule out as something like some Chinese maker having put out a ceramic phone I feel like that has happened I know Apple uses ceramic for their watch the super high-end model of the Apple watch is ceramic you know there's a lot of benefits to it it's it's it's more scratch proof I think it's more durable and it's a different material I don't think Apple is gonna to introduce ceramic this year or in the foreseeable future it's really expensive and so it might be cost prohibitive to I at ceramic so you know maybe that's what--when that $2,000 Apple iPhone kicks in is when it's all ceramic only the notch is ceramic it does nothing to help okay thanks again everybody for joining us we're out of time tomorrow because of the Senate hearings and the house congressional hearings with Google and Facebook and Twitter as we previously mentioned in the stories we are going to be in a bit of a flux we're probably going to be late at best leaning towards 12:30 Eastern Standard Time not really sure it's really gonna depend on how the case is unfold because we are streaming those so make sure to come back and subscribe for that don't forget to like that smash button wait that's not right Alfred help me what are you asking mash that something buzz mash that's like and subscribe yeah that's it yep so anyways I'll see you guys tomorrow hopefully it's sometime alright 359 is available on iTunes tune in stitcher Feedburner google play music google podcasts the amazon echo of course cnet.com we will see you tomorrow won't I don't know I'll be here you you