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hey it's late and we know it but it's worth it because we got the scoop it's the 359 podcast featuring Ben Fox Ruben Roger Chang and Scott Stein and we are in all sorts of weird moods right now everyone's all Drive deep Eva we're excited Wow yeah I don't like we were gonna talk about evening wearables initially but Apple just basically thin the invite drops yeah the invite drops and they basically said hey we're gonna take the show now yeah you wanted to be on the podcast yeah so we're gonna we're gonna talk about Apple their big event is gonna be September 12th and we'll also get to a couple of things about wearables especially from the official related to Apple anything and all the other stuff yeah and Scott's our big wearable expert which is why we're yeah yeah all right without further ado let's get to the podcast send in your questions and comments BBG we'll get to as many as you can at the end of the show all right let's make them try he'll try let's let's do it all right Avery go for the recording we'll be back see in the chat in three minutes 59 seconds four three two welcome to the 359 I'm Ben Fox Ruben Roger Tran and today we have improv impresario reviews King Scott and reviews King Scott Stein big news just lightweight occasions around him reviews King they're like a whole bunch of yours outside we don't have any time magician big news that just hit apple's iphone event will be on september 12th at the new Steve Jobs theater Scott you just wrote about this how big is this gonna be huge and because it's going to be at the new campus first of all so nobody has really seen except for a few people at the Steve Jobs theater and it's the new iPhone iPhone 8 that's from a he's from sir mathematic point of view but it's a smaller venue right from what I understand apparently from what we understand yeah so that's true by interesting to see how many how they deal with the ally deal things but oh this is this is a big a product launch the iPhone is a signature event for Apple every year this is their big thing plus it's gonna be a lot of associated products we're expecting apple watch we're expecting maybe Apple TV updates update maybe maybe it may be new more news on home pod I think we're gonna hear a little bit about air pods because that's the thing you connect all that stuff okay well Mary I'm setting myself up to be a little bit disappointed that there's been so many rumors flowing about the 10th anniversary iPhone is this really gonna live up to the hype I think it's kind of a hard time doing that because I agree with you when it comes to phones we always talk about how many more updates we've been really put in phones and I think you know we've seen so many leaks about this already so again if it matches that you'll feel like expectations were met and that's it and and also you know what what next generation thing can you put in a phone to really take it to the next level a ours is really big but that won't be just on the iPhone 8 yeah really the the the massive redesign I think if there weren't a lot of rumors I think that would be a lot bigger deal o total in fact the essential phone kind of has that design already yes people have already there are phones out there that kind of look like it and the Galaxy phones we're talking about you know contactless charging you know removing the bezel all that sort of stuff that's been out there so it's it's not gonna meet the hype there I don't know if it's gonna be disappointing it might be anticlimactic that's not gonna affect sales right we're just gonna bigger buy these things they are in about these things although it's gonna be anything about wear positions because the talk is that there might be three iPhones there might be an iPhone eight and maybe iPhone 7s and 7s plus if that's the case and that almost sounds like a move to what they've been doing with MacBook swear you know the type I wonder if it's a touch bar move where the touch bar is is an optional high-end upgrade and then you have these other models maybe they're gonna position the iPhone 8 as even a little more of a premium slightly out of range thing assuming that not everybody will want it or be able to afford it alright I also want to get to a lot of the wearables news that's been coming out this week especially as the ephah tech show and Germany has been going on what's the the big one that people should pay attention to it's the one from Samsung right it's definitely Samsung because they're a huge player and I think the other interesting thing in that space between Samsung and Garmin Samsung made is really an update where they added swim proofing and finally edit downloadable Spotify Garmin added payments now that's also like Fitbit who added payments those those mobile payment platforms are on the rise a lot of these are getting swim proofing but again will you use it Garmin and Fitbit also have their own app platforms so to Samsung he's a Polly you expect them at this big event to say something about the Apple watch maybe a Series three right-right series three so you wonder what they could do LTE is the big rumor so you've seen phone equipped wearables fail Apple would have its work cut out for it explaining how that would work actually interesting but the new Samsung watch removed LT yes make it smaller yes they took it out is backtrack in there does suck out your battery and make sure to watch a lot bigger that those are two things that are you know big issues with users yeah and Android wear has moved away from it mostly almost completely so maybe Apple could figure out one thing I hate about LT Watchers you have to pay an extra amount per month maybe Apple could figure out a way to circumvent that maybe they work I deal with carriers or the question is how much is a drain your battery maybe there's like a standby mode they'd also have to explain why you're gonna use that yeah you people don't really get it so that has to be explained by explanations always been out there so you could use your watch without your phone people don't seem to care that much about them cuz they're always with their phone anyways apples that'll be apples elevator pitch for it alright we're gonna call it at that point if you want to read more about these stories check us out on CNN I'm Ben Fox ribbon okay I'm Scott Stein thanks for listening boy howdy we got a busy chat today I learned everything about technology just now I mean I know all the tag trying to remain great in fast I gotta go spelunking for comments so you guys talk amongst yourselves all right hello there's nothing left to talk about we're done there's God covered everything will tell me about the ionic you have that yeah I'm wearing a on ik now I have to say we're under this kind of like in between zones so like we've done hands-on impressions but we're not to have a full review on it yet it's its pre-release I really like the design of ionic I think it's it's if you've ever worn a Fitbit like one of the smaller fit bits it feels like that it's a better feel than the blaze which was a clunkier design but it's clean I saw a lot of people that hate the look of it too I mean a lot of people just hate the way smartwatches look I think you wrote that it's at least intended in some ways to look vaguely like an Apple watch they're trying to hit yeah premium to you how much is it it's like discount I mean that's cheaper than the top-end Apple watch but there are a lot of Apple Watchers that do fall in that range yeah Android wear is less expensive in a lot of instances so that's gonna be tough and also the thing you can't tell yet with this is how the apps are gonna work yeah cuz the app platform hasn't launched I mean are people actually gonna make yeah that's the Samsung has its own platform Tizen no one makes I mean they're very companies there are a lot of things out there but few now in fairness to that it's funny because at first I thought what the heck are they doing making apps but as opposed to phones where you have really solidified really useful Android and iOS or app platforms as you say with wearables who uses app some wearables and I kind of have stopped using them on Apple watch I think a lot of times use notifications and want to just because they're not useful yeah mostly they're not useful in they're annoying so maybe the the doorway still open for these companies if they can come up with just a few useful apps and not go crazy and watch faces then it's not a crazy idea I think Fitbit based on the information we got from them we were at a very high level conversation about enterprise and health but I think that's exactly it Fitbit is aiming for I mean Larry Dignan was talking about this with me at ZDNet enterprise play so I think you're talking about corporate wellness type stuff like apps like that it's a no let's move on to Bryan we got some questions we do Collins got a question you're never gonna guess what it's about star wars in cero worse Friday how about that mini Mac Mini max well what why be that's the question is there any update on refresh - the old Mac Mini line Oh none of that stuff will be at this event however I'll be shocked maybe you never know know what not new years i think they ever knew Mac stuff they had a venn okay rarely you have Cathy combined i phone and associate iOS products yesterday at one event yeah it's been a long year but if I recall correctly wasn't her an event in March that was the MacBook refreshes so yeah but there was no Mac Mini refresh right they said it's dead but it hasn't been mentioned there was no March event this year I've got March it was there was still gonna be DC that's why our brains are all scrambled WWC turned into a product event right yeah which not doesn't normally happen that's when they announced the home pod date everything they'd home pod they had iPad pro you max I'm confusing the MacBook thing we pause for a moment wonder no because it is it does get confusing and usually WWC is software so the max all came out then that's why you shouldn't expect anything this is all iPhone maybe Apple TV the question about the Apple watch Apple watch and I think it I thought I have a bet about like air pods because I just feel like air pods were kind of runaway hit even though you know we're all laughing at them they've been successful I think and talked about actual numbers but there's there you know there's like a sense that they're still sold out they're hard to find they're interesting whatever all right I just like they're also gonna try to sell you like more of that stuff do you see a lot on the street these days what so what are the questions do we've got new Maya wants to know if there are going to be a new updated design to the air pod I think it would certainly help because I don't really could they change just making them shorter don't don't make the giant vape pipe they look like little novelty pipes but they do even a little filter like where the year you know it's I feel like that's they actually are they double as and even the charging thing kind of feels like that so I think they can fix the design there's other things not just color would they put a heart rate into them or not because other ones like Samsung's icon X do the other thing would be controls because it's impossible to control volume with air pods it's really annoying the final thing I think would be how much do they improve Wireless because they are they drop out a lot they drop out a fair amount and with Bluetooth 5 you're dealing with a different protocol that could have a longer range and a throughput yeah so I feel like with these new phones you're probably gonna have better Bluetooth then it would make sense to have a better more improved thing or maybe and finally fit because we talk about how they fall out people's ears maybe the ground support tips maybe they call the mare pods for sport tips sport tips I guess who's sport tips sounds like tips I got some tips on this boy guess what tips podcast coming up at two all right more cues so that's those that's my guess I just think air pods at this Skippy roots feel weird all right more question Ramon we're trying to slam through these Michael Brown tweets man hey what are you most excited about in the upcoming iPhone 8 Pro Edition X etc etc etc he's looking for personalize personally the excited about notches I like notches answer that the fact that they're actually gonna upgrade to an OLED screen finally to me makes a lot of sense unfortunately it's such a premium to your price that I'm probably not gonna go for that specific phone I'm excited about hand feel I love they feel I I've hated how large the plus has been to hold so if they can get a compact phone with a larger screen thank goodness that's a wish the back was a bit more curved like not only a fan the flat back because I mean looks nice like it sucks the whole right hand feel yeah I'm really excited about with that new phone I'm care for such 3d touch field so I'm excited I'm curious to hear what they're gonna do about no home button if that's true yeah curious I'm not like excited about that it could be like a headphone jack thing where you're like why did they do this but I am very intrigued about camera developments because I think between like 3d mapping on the front how that might be able to help with augmented reality Apple says that AR kit is only the rear camera for now for the existing phones but that doesn't mean that a future phone couldn't have a AR on the front and what would that be used for well like snapchat snap already is a huge player in AR with all the face filters and all crazy stuff I could get into some of those AR function face felt you know you know what I mean right I'm gonna go back to the fire phone and all the front-facing camera facing camera they were onto something with that they were they didn't know to a certain extent yeah some of those features are starting to reappear in different places and phone as scanner Bixby is trying to explore that but they haven't really gotten that going yet but I think the degree to which with computer vision everything else AI the ability for a phone to recognize where you are maybe in terms of position or in terms of intelligence I feel like the iPhone can make strides with that where the camera is not just for taking photos it's like gonna help you when Scott gets going it's hard to get in stop the office so we've talked about what you're interested in excited about curious about Margo wants to see the flip side what are you gonna be really disappointed over if they leave it out or what are you gonna be disappointed in this is my perspective if they actually go through with it I'm more annoyed by the lack of things with the iPad now because I feel like that's the one I need to be a computer at this point but with the iPhone that's not gonna be all though they've already refreshed yet yeah but I still feel like it needs to go further I feel like it's not but that's a side thing iPhone the point being that if you like the iPhone is has solidified a lot and to the point where I think phones are pretty great across the board so I not really dreaming of all that much do I want to push the envelope sure but there's nothing I really need phones to be maybe I'll be disappointed if they don't really make good strides with like contact obviously they don't have contactless charging or if they don't have like if you know I think these things were expecting one thing I want to see if I don't see it I'll be disappointed the dual camera moving that down to all the models so it's not just but make sure that base every model the new iPhone should have a dual cam like that's basically par for the course for a lot of these high-end phones so to not have a dual camera lens on the base model i 7 iphone 7 s would get kinda crap that being said is that right is that in the cards I don't know I don't know I think it could make sense I think a key could happen then if you don't want that you just get the older iPhone 7 right I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say I hope they talk more about Siri and home pod I think ultimately they're gonna talk a lot about Siri good good because Siri needs a lot of work and I think that them talking on stage about Siri means that they're actually putting some emphasis and some money behind that voice assistant because it does the it needs more work so squeaking it's a good point there's that's a perfect bridge into some of the wish lists that are coming down through the chat Michael Brown says you have to see some updates to Siri as well Val dear is looking forward to a circular Apple watch do you think that's possible and lastly tell by one I totally want Apple TV stick good idea w-where to get iTunes content because it's impossible otherwise unless you buy an Apple TV as well add that to the list a wireless charging is almost wireless you want to assume to be part of the new iPhone and we've talked about that for years yeah and it looks like they're finally getting on it yes my biggest wish list item is for the Apple watch has nothing to do with the hardware it's a watch face store they keep the shoes off and it's bizarre and you can only get the the handful of watch faces that Apple includes why can't you gave why can't I get my New York Jets watch face i I mentioned Roger I a jet is it I want my crying New York Jets wash face okay no from the rumors also wear touch ID is actually gonna be located and if they get rid of the home button one weird rumor conspiracy guess was like it's over the Apple logo or something in the back really wait so I would be disappointed if touch ID was hard I sexy isn't Dark Crystal anyway I don't think so I think that if it would be that'd be a real disappointment if it goes way sorry my impression is is that touch ID is probably not gonna be under the screen as we were all hoping it would be that's probably not gonna come for another year or two yeah and all the phones and all the phones fingerprint sensors so we'll see where they put it yeah that Qualcomm tech was interesting that when they when they had I haven't demoed it but when they were talking about how that under screen tech for fingerprint sensing it's using a notic thing and it's slower and main abuse but I be curious I just feel like to not have touch ID at all on the iPhone eight would be crazy they'll have some yeah you got to have it also because now everybody was gonna want a face cam it'll be a dongle don't make you pay we've included the touch ID dongle in the box and it is the most pretty dongle but if you lose it it's like fifty dollars to buy a dog and you can't get your you can't get to the phone with the attaches to your lightning headphone it's on the air pod it's on your eyes that is great word is a touch ID ago more questions questions are Alex Ortiz will the iPod be phased out or will it possibly get an update I think it's already been shuffle is the lining law yeah no the iPod line except for the touch is gone oh right and I really say that I will talk about that we're talking about that earlier that the Nano for sure yeah so that's how basically everyone feels and they haven't talked about the iPods on stage now or black brings back Apple watch one thing that's really broken on what on watches across the board is music you're like why would I use music for well it looks like an iPod Nano Apple watch is supposed to it does technically play music yeah nobody actually knows that and I feel like most people wouldn't even know how to set it up it's really slow it's not good it's not ideal and Samsung Google all of them I think are really bad at it Apple is improving music playback with with watch OS 4 they've already gone over that so I got sync playlist I think that they're gonna push more of that and try to push the Apple watches music player the question is is that of interest okay going back to the original question the iPod Touch apparently is still on sale and I thought I know is it still available but they killed off a couple of the other iPods everything yes yeah it's basically just that we did write about this yeah yeah you could still get them on a variety of e-commerce websites I will not mention place is not gonna plug them all right all right places to questions what else we got razor 204 8 wants to know if Apple's considering adding a headphone jack to the smartphone nope sorry no but it would be so great if they do know it would be super happy that Samsung decided to keep their headphone jack on their phones it looks like the Google pixels though are gonna get rid of it yeah I know it's a bummer yeah I can't by the way I'm still bummed about the headphone jack being gone I I want to write about this I'm not okay with it I'm still upset about it early totally forgot happy birthday it's good alright that's why we had you on the show not your wearable expertise but the fact that it's and in it's been a great birthday true to form I accidentally lots of investors camera out in that shot while he wished him happy birthday everybody or no omen I don't know yeah Buell invited happy birthday Scott nice might is very wood no sirree we need some space terrifying but yeah it's it's been a it's been a good one we gotta get some lunch yeah someday questions questions questions yeah all right we're almost out of time here but let's let's crank through something else Christopher USBC our lightning for iPhone eight charging lightning lightning I mean that's yeah it's definitely not gonna be us that would be nice USB see that would be fantastic interesting I'm not entirely oh not gonna happen the question would be would be lightning to USB old-school or USB see in a don't what way the other on the on the court oh god no I know what'd be great we came in the box of the USB see immediately find your own way with a new adapter yeah ugh yep that would be so that would be like totally so that would mess with your mind so Apple cuz actually that's Google the pixels like that yeah both ends of his USB see which seriously sucks if you have like it's this other plug it's possible I just think at some point there is the question of like USB sees on so many other Apple devices at this point I don't know how that resolves I mean or just eventually lightning just goes away to be replaced by contactless charging and wireless right now in place by nothing differ in the chat is lamenting about how in like ten years kids are gonna go what's a cord like cords gonna compete I don't know why you went from I was in your forward to that cordless will not disagree maybe lament wasn't leh exact right where I don't kid like yeah kids you you don't know what you like how bad it was all these cords tangling up in your pockets there nor the crap out of me okay a thing in the past we used to get these free core cords strings and ropes made out of electronics that came with our products Apple is obviously trying to get a little bit closer to that world but in the transition in the bridge that we've been experiencing since last year it's been pretty crummy I mean like the fact that you can't plug in the newest iPhone to the newest MacBook right without a dongle it's so strange and there have been that lately it's like these two different formats and then you might have contact lists and it's all just got to come together maybe they'll get one step closer this time they might and I mean that's something if you have contactless charging I think about well the entire family be supported will you have that but watch will it may be a new version of air pods that's another thing you have contactless charging case something like that where you could put them all on one surface or who knows what I just think the moment you have all these sprouting octopus of lightning things I don't think that works like the one charge the device - and what kind of voltage good it can't output the same can you I guess he could build one that would I mean it wouldn't like work anywhere but you could potentially design right I don't know I just think at some point you have to deal with again the sprouting squid of lightning cable I was just thinking about I still want that be able than everything in there I will never make it to the market although if you put your keys your metal keys in there all right we got to wrap it up soon but let's address the one major elephant in the room Scott with an elephant what do you think greatness - loser - do you think the rumors are true about the delayed release date for the iPhone 8 great the lizard great name yeah that's been here before I think it's entirely possible I disagree well I think it will be it'll be on time the supply will be so limited I agree with want to be able to say that it'll be available in certain of some certain date that's close to the launch and we sold out yeah we sold out because we've only made five of them like see Apple has done has announced products that have come out later air pods for instance it may be that we get a preview peek now and the iPhone 7s comes out now and the iPhone 8 comes out in October they've done that with iPads they've done lot of things were they had staggered releases so it's totally in their wheelhouse to do that yeah and if they did that what what problem would anyone have with that they'd be annoyed some somewhat but it's it's happened a lady hilariously anti-climactic if they wanted on the iPhone eight because that's the one that a lot of people that would explain spec thing yeah but that would explain why they have two lines of products because then you couldn't have iPhones available and it's also like they've sometimes had delayed launches of features like portrait mode came later Apple pay came later yeah but when those phones long features and those are accessories really about the iPhone an actual like high profile profile product launch also exists because that's that's how they their bread gets buttered that's all the money that they made tell you what let's draw a little thing around this we'll come back after the event we'll see who is right okay I lied we got one more first up mr. legend said thanks for the shoutout been for sure and Margo wants to know what are the projected storage capacities for the iPhone oh good question well they're currently calf at 256 eight gigs I think 512 is totally on the table for the high-end yeah the eight will go up to 512 also with cameras you know requiring more storage because I know there's gonna be that much in storage it's more like sensor processing that's true it's because they're they're just basically using similar graphics so may not be a camera if you were doing nor if you're doing some sort of 3d scanning that that would be I mean that would take a lot of your memory so what is do you know off the top of your head what's the lowest tier iPhone I'm not talking about the se what's what I get it starts with their two right yeah well so it's 32 128 256 yeah I think they're probably gonna stick with 32 is the baseline even on the big anniversary no no anniversary I think will probably start at like 64 128 there we go I think the I think the eight could even start at 128 yeah I mean that's I think is yeah your your you're starting you starting big in that territory $5,000 price tonight hitting also the other thing that the cameras could do you mentioned about storage and everything else is we've seen this with other things like like google tango the ability to do 3d scanning microsoft talked about this 2-3 scanning on your phone like what is that for there are applications and Apple could have a phone in the iPhone 8 that would do interesting 3d scanning stuff that could have uses maybe it's pro uses but and I would take up a huge amount of storage yeah so not impossible and that type of stuff is interesting and is related to AR and 3d and VR and gifts like that so oh man oh man oh man there are so many questions we really got to get going unfortunately yeah thanks for bearing with us what we started late today for obvious reasons yeah yeah and we'll be talking a ton more about Apple as we get closer then now this will be it never done through this is a wrap where actually I can even go talk about it at the event seriously thanks everybody for all the great questions and we'll be back on Tuesday after Labor Day that's right we're we're not around Scott thank you so much for joining the show gonna come in sky and Roger thanks for being here through you sound good you sound like yourself anyway you were oh my god I'm just gonna push through the 3:59 is available on itunes toon and stitcher SoundCloud Feedburner google play music and of course see that alright thanks everybody for watching we'll see you again on Tuesday let's wrap for the week thanks you