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and good morning from cnet New York studios on Monday februari 27th it's time for episode 185 of the newly renamed 359 podcast to the Fox and Wolf show good morning Ben Fox Rubin and I as the wolf akhtar woohoo what's up guys how was your weekend whose was okay mine was great it was merely fine I'm very happy to be back in the podcast so yeah just yet all weekend your sky rocking in a ball when you to podcasting your podcast podcast my monday I can I just tried a podcast in front of my kids and they're like Ben's if it bends entire life is now timed out in three minutes 59 seconds like I need to take a poop start the timer you can rate that's its social experiment for your kids right there yeah my dad you're 402 and a doesn't work that's not that's no good that's not good alright so what are we going to squeeze in 23 minutes and 59 seconds we have we have a lot to go over you're not no it's no kidding yeah from Prai stay at Mobile World Congress but we are gonna try to stick to 3 minutes and 59 seconds obviously we'll do some blow over especially with questions and comments after the show but yeah there are a lot of announcements out of mobile world congress in barcelona if we have time we'll mention the oscars which apparently was a thing last night Oh fine you know kind of like who cares I think yeah some people care I don't know if any of them were in this room though I don't I mean I watched it I thought it was I thought it was exciting while I was he good but yeah I mean like I was watching let's get to the phone Frasier I wasn't watching the Oscars okay old episodes neither think of anyway let's let's um let's see how much of this we can get through in 359 send in your questions and comments Brian will get to them at the end and yeah let's do it alright everybody hang out we'll be back to talk to you in the chat in three minutes 59 seconds from 32 welcome to the 359 I'm Ben Fox Rubin am I as the wolf actor Oh Mobile World Congress he's going on in Barcelona with a ton of major phone and unveilings the biggest reveal is the LG G six let me let me take off a couple of things here about it 5.7 inch screen dual lens camera it's got an older Qualcomm processor not the latest and greatest dust and water-resistant it doesn't you can't replace the battery like with other LG's are you excited about this this is this is the biggest reveal so far of Mobile World Congress and I don't know that I'm getting that excited about it I did the biggest problems that we knew about all of this already eldress teasing this like crazy their official site on friday i was checking out on the official site on the bottom and give you all the specs already on their site really yeah it was just in the little gray on white font and like oh maybe they're not noticing list at the duo 13 megapixel cameras on they're talking about the water and dustproof stuff it was actually on their site already they're not as excited they're excited people are paying attention to them apples not in the room Samsung's guy what did Samsung do Samsung's like hey we are going to announce when we're going to announce the s8 and we also have a tablet that you don't care about that we had to show you something yesterday yeah the dog ate my homework and now I only have an s3 tablet to show you they do really who cares about the tablet like who cares about tablets period and is this an interesting tablet like it's an android tablet it seems very ho-hum to me it's got HDR potential it's got an S Pen you can actually use the S Pen honest if you're like just longing for the note that's not it you know available you can draw on this one only not we're nine point seven inches you don't have two models at the s2 so is anyone excited no but they needed something to capture the audience away from LG because they have the biggest phone at least a the most high-profile phone right at the show which is which is important because it is a big show this is one of the phones that I really like that I was super excited about we reference this on thursdays show this is the nokia 3310 this is a throwback phone I love the specs on this thing 2 megapixel camera camera yeah right snake game and month long battery life and that is literally it that's like all it does maybe it makes phone calls it looks super bright there's a there's a red one is a yellow one or the might be like a fluorescent green under what cover that that is and that original graphite looking thing it looks good it supposed to be way thinner right well 3310 so people are you know they're gonna try to stress test this thing because that's Nokia's legendary at least the old Nokia's legendary for like destroying other objects with it because it's so tough yes but there's like hammer and a nail with that Nokia if you're ever on reddit you've seen these things when it comes to nuke is so the question is with these versions will have that but people are excited about this yeah what are you too excited about the 3310 I'm really excited about it first question though about it is is retro tech back you know we saw the that throwback Nintendo people went crazy about it now we've got this phone is this is this now a thing I think it could be in the future so retro is not back yet so retro will be a thing is scheduled it's coming i really think that your mining the old the old IP stuff you don't really find a lot of this stuff coming back i imagine because there's only so many variants because everything looks the same you look at the g6 and you look at the s8 totally it's like hey what do you have there oh it's just a slab of metal and glass right okay what do you have it a slab of metal and glass yeah I got the 3310 this is a gorgeous piece of plastic that doesn't do anything there you go watch out people all right we've got we've got what 20 24 seconds were narrowly running out of time should we mention the Oscars yes we talk about something yes Oscars mistake happened you care I I mean I I kind of care i was excited about it when I saw it I feel like I would be remiss if we didn't at least mention that the Oscars happen it's kind of like the Super Bowl of something or other I think it was a publicity stunt it could have been it could have been staged who knows but anyway all right we're out of time if you want to read more about these stories check us out on cnet I'm Ben Fox Rubin Amaya's actor thanks for listening so let's talk about the elephant in the room or maybe more accurately the giant indestructible brick in the room everyone wants to talk more about the 3310 oh my god totally like yeah I didn't see that coming I mean it's a really it this is this is the other question I wanted to ask you but we only had four minutes was who would actually use this phone you know like who is the market for your kids you don't like they were given to us in high suit like I know that's what I that's what I mentioned III has had an interesting insight because his kids a little older than my oldest back when my kid was younger I would give him like android phones and things like that because he would use apps you know not gonna have a lot of apps on this thing so once they see dad playing with whatever on his phone didn't why can't my like this and I'll be like no no no really kids are great i don't know when I was little and I had the little red tykes you know plastic car and my dad's car had a stereo in it I didn't get mad I got a car it's true but there's no licensing process for receiving a phone or an ipod touch or something doesn't have a sim you don't need to have amazing parents don't want to give their kid a distraction appliance that's okay that's true so I I totally agree with you but I I do like is coming soon I like I at this point that kids are very savvy one of the first things my daughter learned how to do was to swipe and pinch and zoom I'm not proud of it but that's what happened I suppose we had natural interface and that really is natural like it is it is and but it's it it to me I would probably feel more comfortable she's only four years old but I would probably feel more comfortable giving her that Nokia phone as opposed to something else that you know you you would know here's why because that thing has the phone app up all the time so they can dial people much easier so you do want a kid pressing button don't I'm serious think about this that hard keyboard there is a kid pressing buttons you don't want to give a kid that I don't know come my mom and dad about your grandparents then that's also yeah yeah thanks for that MMP oh oh geez mmk Cody says he'd give it to his grandpa and I think that's a good point because there are I if I want to my grandparents if I try to give them anything or like what the hell is this devil machine ok so i guess at least resembles a phone i think really cool device i think the retro check being back is really nice i think there's really this great market for it like yeah there's some kids they'll like it there's older people who like it but there's a lot of simplified phones out there for this market already fact that nokia is just what we remember all right remember this was awesome it's like yeah but here's the thing i'm really curious if any of us who are like yeah this was awesome but now we've got this really cool things like you're not gonna go back to your red drink okay you didn't like i can drive a freaking car so i don't need this thing it's a novelty though what if you had it as like a sidebar um i'm under this tracfone still exists yes yeah so what you took that if you're gonna go um let's say some kind of dangerous expedition you're going but rock climbing or something like that you don't wanna bring a smartphone with you and this one lasts for a month that's actually a very interested you could like save your fall for my sake total guys what not wait here's the other thing this is new getting that that's always been the urban legend you mentioned read it and how they the 3310 has been this indestructible like they found them encased in concrete and they still have power kind of thing like years later will are these gonna be just as indestructible or they're gonna be flimsy machines like an iphone this is a different manufacturer this is hmd and they've got the license to nokia name so nobody knows yet if these new 33 tens are going to be as good the old 3310 so what's gonna happen is you know people are gonna take all three tens versus the new one just has beaten them together oh I would let her get her and hope for the best we should do that we should just do that alright we're doing it that's on the docket we're doing it 3310 was mega stress test side by side see which way or the other model we can oh my god let's have a sword fight with them mmm I would do it okay either way I think maybe he said it's a battery of tests for this battery being the intended word oh that was a punt I was good mr. right over my own head right and what is the price point on the 33 1049 year 49 euros a really nice low price 49 euros is probably it's pretty close to depending on the day fifty bucks 70 bucks let me check you say I don't I can't do conversions in my head like that I don't know what the going rate until I get a dollar right now so we'll find out Tobias does not want us to beat the crap out of the phones come on I mean party okay it's it's literally like 50 bucks yeah so the euro in that what they used to be too it's $52 and five cents which means that you know as a backup phone potentially especially if you're like a really heavy smartphone user but you have to make a phone call emergency call whatever i'm not saying everybody would use it for that but I kind of like your rock-climbing example the thing is is that it's such a piece did um such a cheap piece of tech that you could just have it as a backup potentially yeah i would think that when i used to juggle phones way back in the old sim card days because they still have them now but like I think people might get used to that idea of popping their sim out go if not using my iphones and i'm using this thing because i don't know where I'm gonna be what's gonna happen like you want that kind of thing going but that's that's um it's a really old school mentality when I switchers him I'm sorry I look at my smartphone so often that it might actually be a pretty brilliant way of like you know getting a smartphone diet by just getting one of those things and keeping it for a week maybe feel worth with a SmartWatch it's like okay the SmartWatch has got all the brains now I never knew through my phone now cuz it can't do anything yeah but then I'm still looking at a screen it's okay we should we should look at each other we should talk to me and you well I'm gonna talking to each other I invite you to this tube megapixel camera i love that the 2 megapixel camera so hungee it seemed like that we have to go out of their way to find a sensor to that small I don't know there's no made powder you do like it's like finding like old ram for your computer like okay Ferg look at Instagram everybody adds the filter on it and you got this mad megapixel phone and then that's why you do you rate them to look stressed as my people by ripped jeans for Christ's sake come on that's a good point that's a good point where's this where's the camera we're out of circling around this whole retro tech thing and a nostalgia is one of the greatest motivators in the sales in sales right now I told you agree we all hate what's happening right now when we want to remember a better time yeah but then when you get this in your hand we go bone it is it do it when my phone sucked in my jeans were acid washed yes absolutely that goes for great line what's my phone when the phone sucked and my jeans were acid wash you know it's the internet we can change it immediately Pamela's asking if buddy knows when the pre-orders going up no no idea I can find out you see I mean they just announced a judge announced that and I'm actually impressed that they even included pricing so we don't know when this is going to be available quite yet black doug Studios burner phone quote Heisenberg yeah I mean but you can find a lot of other crappy phones for that you know yeah this one so on Reenie bucks well it's an you know won't let this one go you want to crap your phone for that it can't burner an indestructible phone that's a probably I mean you just throw it out and have somebody else find it so to answer the question you can sign up to get notified when the phone is actually available but it looks like it hasn't yet it hasn't yet been announced when it's coming out you can go on nokia com and find a little bit more information but yeah the features are literally three bullet points and I think we read them on the podcast so your actual small of all saying between April and June is alleged time in the UK and glenroy says in Jamaica they're advertising soon as well so this has got to be a quick flip around I mean technically the technology is there yeah right and it's been there for quite some time literally just waiting for the boxes to arrive at the store I don't think that they really have to they didn't try to make new phones they just found like a warehouse stock it's a Oh marketing i bet those who do better if they go these are the classics are you but this original those things these things are way too thick how long do we wait until somebody comes up with a case follow that out approximately a week yeah that's me on Kickstarter will be 3d printed relatively soon and it's got somebody the jack get to work on that right idea I love that somebody we actually figure out to make that a battery pack we really have a video you really need more battery for that yeah i'm gonna do that you're gonna add the bulk why not certify tens gonna outlive us all it's a cockroach of phones yeah but a better camera on it by the bat make it a whole mod phone oh god this that was one thing that we didn't get abilities by the way we didn't mention that like there's gonna be a mod phone there's a new mod on the Moto z yeah that we wanted to mention which is gonna have the Alexa integrate its gonna bring the lux tentacles devices and then yeah alexis coming to other Motorola phones which is strange because now Google is allowing assistant on nougat and marshmallow and yes the g6 is coming baked in with google assistant as well LG g 6 moto g 5 is the other thing that might get alexa in the future yeah so people can expect to see more voice assistant capabilities on their different bones but you're probably going to have to be in the Android world if you want to get different ones yes yes definitely a good one definitely a good one but between Google assistant and Alexa seems very likely to me that amazon or sorry Apple is not gonna play that game I think that's definitely I mean Jerry's reaffirming this in the chat but there's definitely a market for this this 3310 thing coming back I don't think it'll be a novelty I think there will be some legitimacy to it or but there's definitely good stuff oh there's usually they're definitely it's a novelty to it but I think it could go beyond its gonna be those kids with the America Online t-shirts the 3310 you said like they're selling a few dollar American $45 America a few shirt yeah the old logo 3310 nostalgia cells it's just what's been happening that's that's basically what created BuzzFeed was they did listicles of transformers and that was now they're neither bigger than Jesus yeah hey we've got a loan we've got a off-topic question um anybody know what the price of the samsung galaxy book samsung galaxy book are we talking about the tab s3 no it's a different thing I don't have it right now I'm gonna look it up but I samsung just kind of was just the word what's the word just stalling for time it felt like stalling four times and also like also we still exists yeah but at the same time like it's after the note 7 was such a poor launch I think they want to make absolutely sure that this is the right launch and they can you know come back with a full head of steam in the the so the s8 is going to launch in New York on march 29th yes when the announcements gonna be the galaxy book does not have a price yet okay we have some lofty requests in the in the chat right now Tobias wants a camera hub mod for the Lumia 1020 for the 3310 Wow Lumia okay doesn't that like didn't I already have a 41 megapixel camera there's not one talking about what we gonna do take two and stretch it it's gonna be difficult I was a good camera though I think it's gonna be impossible to teach you say it was basic one megapixel there was a 41-megapixel windows phone I think that's the one he's talking about was a bright yellow one and then we're gonna add a mod to it to make me feel like I'm listening but put that lens I think on the 3310 is what he flew do I love that idea that is like to be a while no way to actually see that because of the low res screen so you have no idea to the more is there any on onboard storage on these things it's kind of like I don't know what five megabytes or something like that's like you're putting songs little and 41 megapixel photos on it I think we're video one photo I think they played it right though because they could have crammed more tech into this phone they could have made it more smart phony and they decided not to yeah I wish I were lying there to dirt cheap yeah wish I could have been there for that conference is like it's a phone what to do calls and snake and that's it there's gonna be back lashing is that color snake I'm telling you yeah yes it's not even like old original snake so even though that snake is one of the bullet points it's a modified version of so we're gonna need a memory there's gonna be developed a hub so that you can plug the nokia into your dial up modem so that you can download this app store you make an app store for the nokia and then you can get a retrograded black and green version Wow but that'll be a theme the black and green version of this of everything yeah you can theme this is so colorful doesn't like it has more than for later this year I would like to come back to this issue and actually see how many of our viewers and listeners actually bought this phone because it's super fun to talk about but I do wonder what the use case is what do you remember like you'd have to carry a phone and a music player yeah like that stopped Louis you imagine carrying extra stuff with you all the time with this well this phone is like super fun but we were talking before the show to about like what about like bringing back like a Sony Walkman or something like that we're like a discman and it's like that's not gonna play that's not gonna wind hits the market place that might work actually this vinyl came back on these tapes and I never really went away though direct but tapes you can make they're still taped that come out every now Johnson come full circle but it's again a sheer novelty because because the sound quality is horrible but it's the interaction is horrible as well every day that was the first big step backwards in technology ooh in my opinion at least from listening techniques and an optical disc could come back like a CD right but there are I mean there is just running a peak efficiency it's not like you get better quality between one or the other it's the disc is still a fully functional it's just unnecessary when you don't need physical media right right so there are limitations to retro attack like I think the chances of a cassette tape or cassette walkman coming back seem pretty low but maybe at mwc 2018 shout-out kamal hashtag bring back Betamax bored of that bring back Betamax also black those Studios points out that we are gonna have to relearn t9 you will i'm not doing by the way bring back Betamax should have been our headline that should have been that line Emile's got a good question which old phone brands do you want to see resurrecting now that Nokia and blackberries back with an Android twist right we didn't even mention the blackberry very good reference yeah you know it's it's a keyboard blackberry made by TCL I hits all the necessary blackberry points but the problem is is like that's not gonna bring back blackberry nothing else did so far but and there's no nostalgia flip phone yeah maybe if they did think he was she yeah flip motivation for the old one the v3 we all had that phone that thing should be back one way or another give it time now now that this Pandora's box is open I mean let's talk we don't want much time left actually we're almost over but you know they had the Nintendo classic come back like everybody just kind of reliving their their golden years let's make a wish list real quick before we wrap it up for the day what's uh what we think or what we want to see come back a Teen Wolf themed flip phone going with that I I don't even know where so with that I'm actually for from Apple I want that really yeah you want the color box back no that's a G 30 or with that the floating Oh with the the arm telescope next thing I didn't telescope but it moved up and okay look like a lamp right yeah well that's like man little ding on the mac like it looked I would hope they will update it a little bit but I'm just saying like that would be the design i want to see again I mean that's simply design though they could shove mom told Jenelle in there yeah I mean he'll we could get we know people we can mod yes classic isn't really running like well Turk exact it's just a box yeah so like yeah I want that design but I mean though you're gonna have to if you want authenticity that screen resolutions gonna go down no I don't want that nothing si si well I was Brian it's your this also isn't running symbian this in 3310 so I think it's okay that they update it a little bit Oh Joe Dreamcast remake he knows how I oh nice Sony dreamcast come on Sega some oh I'm sorry get out my mistake what letter starts with an s pretty good it just flattened his head wrong okay I did it all by all the night guy who does need a 3310 let's be honest he's either way they're Dreamcast what the Dreamcast eyes were made I totally disagree it was up against funny what was it up against PlayStation to the PlayStation 2 and what was the Nintendo one that wasn't him came well after the gamecube came after all right i did not like the dreamcast but i understand the nostalgia of it there are dozens of us muffins oh man the sidekick in the chat i can't pronounce your name because it's just a mash of letters that's great i want the sidekick to come back that would be fun I mean steadily okay so here's here's what's going to happen you're gonna get to 3310 it if i get to 3310 I want a Palm Pilot back so cuz imma need somewhere to store the information something should stay dead I'm gonna I'm gonna go with that the moto razr flip phone with a big screen and android OS that would be a lofty i'm not that lofty that's pretty easy to put it this bad idea i like that especially if you're updating the OS oh it's a little bit slicker Nokia's back baby they're kind of completely reformed taking over yeah they're gonna kill Apple screw the touchscreen all right we have to wrap it up we're going long today alright cool thanks everybody that was fun okay the 359 podcast is available on itunes tune in stitcher SoundCloud feedburner google play music and cnet com thanks everybody for watching we'll see you again tomorrow bye