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hey happy Wednesday July a 19th here on the CNET studios we're doing a special pre-taped edition of the 359 podcast because as you very well know by now we are still on hiatus I wanted to give you a couple of little we're not really hearing so much has changed in the last three weeks now I feel so I'm so much more matured as a person finally got hoverboards man what a crazy three weeks it's been so Alfred Roger we we have something special in store today to kind of fill the gap in yeah well sort of in an honor of coming comic-con which kicks off especially tomorrow and which I will be at tomorrow which is why I'm not here or am i I don't know we're gonna be talking about I'm travel is hard you know we're going to be talking about upcoming anime our live-action adaptations of classic anime and whether or not this is a good or bad thing and yep it should be abolished well if you've watched a band real anime if you watch the Dragon Ball the live-action take on Dragon Ball yeah you can make the argument and with that I cannot play through the whole damn thing why so bad because it's just I want to see how bad it would get and it did not disappoint in terms of how terrible it the escalation of terribleness for that movie just kept going and yeah yeah yeah alright so wait I want to kill like a thousand birds with one stone here you say that was bad it's pretty objectively bad we know this but for everybody out there actually watching this as it publishes on Wednesday the 19th put your lists down below in the comments or however you want or tweet at us or something like that rank your favorite live-action if you want to rank it who's the worst the best or the worst to the least worst or whatever we're curious and maybe if we're lucky we can actually turn that into like a top 5 a tie as or something like that we can we could use some new ideas but yeah let us know what you think as we tell you what we think I think Ninja Turtles is probably the worst way come on dude favorite anime right off to a terrible start I'm gonna kill him I'm gonna absolutely kill him but I was looking at this site there's Fist of the North Star I forgot about that one there was a live-action adaptation of this with the North Star wait wait uh totally serious question was that Jackie Chan or something no no it was played by a white guy oh god of course it was course it wasn't Jackie Chan what am I thinking of I'm thinking of like no I'm thinking of a different like a gas station on Eternia line wheel City Hunter was a live-action when did that come out looking at this picture a long time ago oh oh but real early in Jackie's career oh yeah yeah huh I'm just looking at this list what Dragonball Evolution is up there alright so yeah let's let's get back into actually your organized thoughts before he just start rambling on yeah sorry so we brought the discussion was brought on by the announcement that Cowboy Bebop was getting a live-action treatment in a TV series form that's coming they don't realize the date yet okay but there's no network no yeah and and we just got the the trailer few weeks back on Death Note the the Netflix movie that's coming up in the fall does not look bad actually watch the trailer good yeah I mean it's coming from great source materials yes and Willem Dafoe is the perfect voice for yeah kind of creepy yeah I mean so he's wonderful he's kind of he's a creepy creature pretty much the Green Goblin in that voice yeah yeah it's pretty much been Goblin and they got the monster kind of right yeah look he looked a lot like Dan at like I was really worried that they were going to try to westernize a lot of the aspects of it like the name of the killer whitewash it yeah as they tend to do that's my fancy that that's my live-action versions I don't have a problem if they stick to the source material if it's like a really good story which Death Note is like the the the plot lines all the characters are like really cool like and you know they stuck to it you guys watch you guys read through the entire storyline I'm reading or watch those yeah alright I thought frankly it kind of Rast even halfway through one when what's-his-name died l L what L died yeah yeah spoilers sorry oops it's been years years old I mean and I don't know how they're gonna make that work in the movie like I mean no honestly it'll probably end at that cuz like I don't see them doing like the whole like every single arc right right cuz it goes on for why I like it yeah and then introduction of new protagonist I don't see them doing the whole thing but yeah I don't know I thought I thought that as classic as that story as I thought it and banding was pretty good I just thought it kind of like that second half was a little yeah honestly I'll probably end it at at that point and then make a sequel yeah they make some more money that way make more money is easier a tell a story that way that's why when you mentioned that they're like Lionsgate is interested in making like a Naruto kind of live-action version I I thought I think of all the story hearts in that I'm like they're either gonna condense it like snow heart probably there's gonna make multiple movies no they're gonna do their own thing like I feel like that story is so confident now but like you can imagine the producers in America are just going to strip it down yeah all right it's kid ninjas yeah that's basically and they've got special powers they're like x-men but ninjas ninjas that's what you don't even look like ninjas that's my problem with like live-action like adaptations though is that like they're just like alright how can we make this like digestible for everybody instead of sticking it to like the source material yeah kind of thing inherently I mean it goes after sort of niche yeah although very popular they did that with like ghost in the shell' where instead of like sticking to the original movie that's what made it so popular it was essentially they took like ghost in the shell' the movie ghost in the shell' the TV series bright ghost in the shell' like the follow-up like the spin-off movies like yeah it was just let's just make this like some kind of terrible meatloaf movie where we all just put it in one thing when you said meatloaf movie I for a second was picturing meatloaf in the movie which you probably know what made it better but I mean look at a lot of the legacy stuff that's going on these days you reference Ninja Turtles earlier and just but right now they have that cartoon series on Nickelodeon that's apparently coming to a close as well as a new comic book series from idw publishing and maybe the exact same thing they picked from maraj publishing all the way to the syndicated archie comics holden elements from the original cartoon and then like little dashes of bones i'm not talking about the movies those don't count I'm talking about the current comics and the current cartoon series that are actually weekly I mean I think from pretty much everything can't even do that bad stuff just to like give you a little wink and a nod I think it's possible to do it that I just think that like serious movie producers and you know filmmakers aren't making anime movies the same way that like serious movie producers are making them for like comic adaptations like you take a look at Mogan which is like supposed to be based off of old man Logan now it's not it's supposed to be though the ideas like I took the idea to 15 is old now yeah that's it yeah but the idea that exactly like it derived so far from it but they still made an amazing movie out of it that's essentially be its own thing you know that's essentially what I want out of like live-action like anime adaptation you take something and then you like you don't have to stick to it like completely but at least make it like a very good movie to watch as a standalone yeah or so would that be possible with something like Naruto I think it would be like if Marvel can do it so like frequently where they can make all these movies like based off of there like hordes of comics that they have I like oh but I would argue with Marvel it was sort of baby steps right like the first like Iron Man was pretty realistic right like besides the fact that there's a good high tech piece of armor but like things were grounded for a little while and then they started like amp it up like oh now we're going to introduce the Norse God and we're gonna introduce yo magic like it was it got to a point where like oh now we're gonna throw out guardians of the galaxy and we're so successful you guys are gonna watch it because that's or how it worked but they all like inception Doctor Strange they built that foundation before they went really weird right so it's it's hard for anime cuz it's well each one is its own franchise like where do you would you wear that spectrum do you go do you start with like an Ironman where everything's kinda door do you go all weird like guardians of galaxies and just sort of hope that people buy into it I mean I feel like cowboy bebop could actually be like a guardians of the galaxy I kind of roll I mean not like heist II kind of Western II thing works but still that's a risk and a franchise it's not as familiar it audience did kind of piggyback off of the familiarity and recognition of just Marvel people now know and trust Marvel as a movie studio people who've never even consider them as comic book publishers now I just don't like a Marvel movie yeah that's how fighting in the galaxy could get away they could never have like come out the gate with that I don't believe that that's I guess that's Mike watches like Wanda's Marvel does Marvel success with weird movies like gardens of the galaxy open the door to cowboy bebop or is it just its own thing like when it comes out people are gonna be like I don't know what this is this is weird I want to watch it I think it definitely there's no air forces but there's no Marvel branding behind it it's a hard thing to think about because from day one that was kind of a cult hit yeah it did open up a lot of doors for Eastern entertainers lutely absolutely but it's like anime oh yeah it's still very congealed concise yeah it's it's not a mass-market thing this is gonna be an interesting venture to see I'm cautiously optimistic still I know they're Hollywood has been trying to make Robotech movie for many many years I just want to see a tech hero Akira's what a live-action accurate he's threatened it so many times it hasn't happened I mean I think it's keep it keeps falling apart or people keep leaving but yeah they've been multiple people who've tried to make that movie last person I heard attached to it was Jordan Peele from get out really yeah kira-kira I know how much merit could be put behind that that's just something I read out in the Internet ether so I don't want to like propagate rumors that are let me just fit very well back to my show and actually I could see very good or as long as it's like a good storyteller behind like you know the camera I have no problem with it right this that's yeah just taking adaptation and put like your vision on it and make it like not cheesy as hell but I mean here's the greater question how much of Asian culture influence can you get away with can we be incorporated I want to bring to know that that's the white dude in the room asking this cuz I know that's a great question because like we saw with girls to shell I mean there was definitely bad but there was I mean to be fair there were other cast members were Asian they tried they try to incorporate some other but they couldn't get away from the fact that the lead character was was the I yeah I was so frustrated when I interviewed the director Rupert Sanders where he talks about essentially this is in a different universe alright it's a multicultural universe a parallel universe with races and really like that much of a thing and then it gets to a point ok then how come there's all these Japanese influences in the movie man but that's it that's what that's exactly what I'm asking is you know they're indicate the argument as we keep moving into the future in the future and so on and the global playground and everybody moving around and eventually just becoming one giant amalgam of pseudo culture I guess is the the goal but I mean that doesn't change the fact that ghost in the shell' relied philosophically yeah on a lot of Eastern philosophies yeah and I think it's definitely dependent upon the the source material right look with Death Note they could easily III didn't really know it was written to be like it wasn't written like everybody's Japanese actly yeah didn't have that like cultural hook to it like it could have been anyone yeah they're making like Full Metal Alchemist like a live-action version of that and those character is supposed to be in like Germany right and all the names are those names if you see if you've seen the trailer for it it's it's coming out in Japan and everyone in that is a Japanese movie which actually I mean it looks okay yeah cool so I mean that that's that's the question with a cure then can you do a Kyra they can't be a Neo Tokyo if they're yeah like right that was always you you read the the crap about like oh really make live-action is gonna mean neo New York and it's like that's the amerikan gunz oh there's no biker gangs in New York there's there are but there's no like what yeah wait a second there's biker gangs in New York but I mean that that's all about the hiroshima and yeah this you know they there's always been a deeper cultural not fear not jealousy I can't even come up with the right terminology about nuclear like nuclear dangers yeah because around Japanese culture and you know I'm not gonna try to speak over my own knowledge base here I'm not gonna pretend to be some expert in Eastern culture it's not rocket science though it is nuclear physics that's how a cure came to be a cure that story doesn't happen in America and you know but is there are there Studios like I mean people can come say it make the defense of this all like supposed to be like fantasy stuff anyway like or like i mean Godzilla's the same way Godzilla is supposed to be like an allegory I guess about like the dangers of like experimenting with like nuclear like energy and then yeah and yet they were able to just put Godzilla in New York and that's because Godzilla self kind of got away from its core source material monster not an ally break it became a monster became a hero it became other monsters I played basketball against Charles barge right it became its own thing and I think that's why it was acceptable that you could take Godzilla just not acceptable though I just turned spiraling down I mean what I'm asking is are there any studios in Japan that could do these live-action scope I you see more of it nowadays you see it do you guys talk about death no I skipped over death no I went straight to attack on Titan okay and I watched movie the live-action looks incredible for attack on Titan okay maybe some of the other aspects are looked cool but I watched both of them back-to-back watching the movies yeah I didn't watch a movie trailers I watched the movie I tried to watch the movie on an airplane and I fell asleep it was why it's not good you know it would have worked though I mean and this is my very very personal review of the movies and the fashion that I watch them is just don't try to name them Eren and Mikasa like it had nothing to do with those characters they changed their backstories so hard why even go down that road why not just give us a side story where you could do whatever the hell you want because more people are being affected by Titans why did they have to try to like reboot the stupid I don't know Paget all right well we got we gotta leave at that we've gotta we're gonna run off into other things travel back in time to our former 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