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Tomorrow Daily - Gesture-enabled touchpad fits on your thumbnail, Ep. 164

2015-04-20
on today's show SpaceX tries once again to land a reusable rocket in the middle of the ocean and MIT shows off a touchscreen that fits on your thumbnail and some kids are getting to use future tech to learn in new incredible ways it's tmrw daily greetings citizens of the internet welcome to tomorrow daily the best geek talk show in the known universe I'm Ashley skeleton amis always the best the one the only kill anonymous hey how's it going it's pretty great yeah you had a you had a Star Wars weekend I had an action-packed weekend can I do you want me to do the thing now okay so so real quick she went to star wars celebration on friday she got a chance to experience it she said she was gonna buy me teach i promised i'd buy you a t-shirt and i did this oh are you sure that says here is to go to my camera it says visit the death star it's no it's no moon haha sure there's no awesome i said i didn't want one that was like stoic celebration a celebration i want to get something cool and stylish and that's a good one and i hope it gives you thank you yeah so there's your sure i'll ruin the mics are already at fancy about it okay cool alright with that being said let's hit the headlines so you're gonna see a video of us it you're gonna be a little bit freaked out but it's pretty cool so MIT Media Lab just unveiled what they're calling nailo nailo like bingo but nayo low and it's a nail mounted gesture input surface which really translates you it's a little tiny track pad for your thumb goes out right on your thumbnail check the ciliate hmm weird right so weird so you're seeing if you're just listening you're seeing a person making a square on their thumb with this like crazy device on it and they're making little designs that are showing up on a nexus cellphone so it'll transmit data via bluetooth to a smart phone or pc and they're saying you can top it with nail art so they were saying it won't be as obvious so yeah hide it you can hide it a little bit can make it kind of cool so won't totally be weird looking they said the commercial version they would have like maybe switchable like top surfaces so that you could match it with your outfit or race ya cool uh and then they gave a couple of different examples of when you would sort of need to use this and I because at first I'm like why do we need this what is this but then they mentioned how people would sort of use this and I thought to myself okay that actually makes a lot of sense so engineers who are sort of soldering something and using both hands if they need it if they do something really quick like a swipe gesture that would sort of either help them maybe zoom in on printed circuit board designs like while they're soldering like that might be a really good use for it they also offered up a mobile typing app for punctuation zor emoticons without switching keyboard so you know on all of your phones you have to switch to like an emoji keyboard or your punctuation it's like a different space on your keyboard that was one of the other examples I will come to your house do not use this remote jeez and then also they did tests involving five different gestures and they actually had over ninety two percent accuracy in their test results which is pretty good that is incredible for a new technology I I didn't hear them say AR cuz that would be pretty cool if you're like you're wearing your goggles when you're seeing like you're seeing a list you're like cooking or something explain the ban list and you're kind of scrolling scrolling through your list that would be a really good use of like if you were to make it work via bluetooth with a hollow lens or or with uh you know gear VR you're not going to pull the controller you're gonna want it to be intuitive so you're gonna like you have a little thing on your fingers you can buy groceries move around and and you don't have to have like a controller or Glover can you imagine flipping through your email that way just like 11 111 and it's very inconspicuous obviously so if there was a situation in which you wanted to be a little bit more subtle maybe you were at a meeting or something and you flipped through email and they said three years out approximately for a commercial release that's not fast enough I'm not fast enough but you know maybe the technology will get better and they'll be able to do it quicker but they said they think right now about three years out and also my biggest question was what about accidental presses like what if you accidentally touch your thumb because I do that all the time like I'm always fiddling around with my thumbnails and my fingernails and stuff check your phone I do every day before I go to bed and um and so siri-like to activate Siri or something they said it would be like Syrian which you'd have like maybe a two second intentional press to like activate the touch screen okay the touchpad so there you go it's called mail oh how weird is that but hashtag of the a today TD nail and my question is what kind of tech would you want on your thumbnail like aside from a touchpad like what's what's something a piece of technology that is that you would want made so small that it can fit on your thumbnail aside from Paul retta's ant-man just keep him on your thumb just kerry Marie yeah yeah fight crime for you um how about like look a little it's like it gives you like a burst of energy so like an energy boost thing so I'm just like man I am real tired whoa I'm wired you know what I mean like that that's all you do is you just do that that's quick it's easy giving a cup of coffee alright you're on the job yeah you need some media boost I like about you I think for me it would be I would like to like right after I wake up I would like for some way to like record my dreams like to be able to wake up and like I'd like to record that and then like you like tap your thumb so you not to move or like start up anything that's crazy yeah like it's like I like oh I want to record that and re-watch it and you just like hit like to you know tap your thumb a couple times or something and then it like sends that to some device of course that you're hooked up to wirelessly because you're half cyborg that's my future that I would like us all to live in so there you go nice yeah i'm moving forward in the future guys I'm just like combining it with other stuff okay all right tell me about this fabulous school okay so one of the best things that you can use tech for is for teaching I think true and what this company called z space has decided to help kids learn in the way that I learned the best which is learning by doing and that is through AR and VR well less VR and more AR what they have created is this giant screen that works with three of these 3d glasses that the kids put on and the screen tracks where they're looking and because of that they can create almost an interactive digital space for them to work that is amazing so they they want to teach them to throw all different things science and nature and all these different types of things so one of the examples they gave was you can see the human heart you can pick it up you use a stylus you can pick up the heart peel back layers on the way it works you'll see this keeps using like yeah he's interacting with robotics so it's not just putting on a VR headset then disappearing to this world and not interacting you have kids learning through interaction and learning through doing another one the ones that they have on here is I don't know if you did this when you were in in grade school but you can die you dissect an owl pellet so like owl droppings and you dissect it and you find like a mouse head and you find like you know like my feet and stuff like that but you see how like the digestive system and stuff work so you can digitally do the you know we read and find all your rat droppings take throughout boom virtually so yeah so they're hoping to use science evolution history and all that kind of stuff I also I really like how collaborative this is like cuz if we if we had virtual reality headsets and we were learning like you were saying we would just put on a headset and then we never interact with anybody around us but this seems like see they're all like talking to each other and they're both looking at the same thing and kind of you know what getting into it together yeah and that's the whole goal of see space is to not have these kids disappear off into this world but to interact and that it be yeah you know they've got their their phones yeah so yeah there you go they're hoping to bring this to more classes right now it's kind of just touring and going to specific schools oh cool yeah oh maybe there's one locally we should go see if maybe they have a local just just go to an elementary school just show up just show me like hey guys we're tomorrow daily and of course all the kids will know us because we're so popular hey grandma and grandpa get out of here we gotta finish watching our vine videos these old people I'll get him out of here uh that's awesome I really like that that's super cool iie again i like one we're some when we're starting to use the AR in the VR notch is just like look I recreated Zelda but like to actually teach me cuz one of the things that they brought up was um what is it so we're object in motion stays in motion yeah new like a news news long yeah yeah sure um but they said that it was hard for kids to kind of grasp what that what that meant because we don't have zero gravity in which to you know show that as an example okay so they were able to show it in this virtual reality space of an object continuously going without having any instructions so yeah it's able to show you things that you can't learn in our own universe yeah I don't want so I like that a lot yeah I love it good job zSpace super cool okay I'm gonna tell you a little bit about sexo we were super star wars wasted last Thursday so we kind of forgot to go to a stroke you we were drunk on Star Wars and we're sorry everybody of a SpaceX last Wednesday attempted a third round of to try to land the ride one of the Rockets the sack and 9 rocket on a barge of the mill the ocean here it goes it solved it's so close look at weight and you think oh my gosh did they do it I think they did it I think they did it and then all of a sudden as the smoke is about to clear oh it falls over that rocket falls over in a date with SpaceX no oh no terrible spring said that's why i love this GoPro footage from the actual barge like check this out so here it is it's like boom and then not so good so they were really close this time so the first time there was it was too fast it just literally exploded it was not good the second time it missed the platform entirely went right into the drink this didn't even hit the barge just went right in the water and then the third time I was was this time so okay what have they said when they sent a response to this because they usually have all like well we know that it was just one time but science takes multiple tries wait you're very true so Elon Musk said it failed due to a quote slower-than-expected throttle valve response so they're getting closer and I think that every time that they kind of do this they learn a little more about you know what exactly needs to be done I know that they delayed this launch this Falcon 9 launch for I think one or two times because of weather so I think that they sort of know that for now like they really can't do this unless it's under like the most optimal of circumstances but it wasn't a total failure they actually sent up a supplies and cargo scientific cargo to the International Space Station which there was a really great picture of one of the astronauts up there taking a picture with it in the background like out the window then there's like earth behind it it was so weird and she'd rested I think she was dressed up in like a Star Trek outfit was great so fantastic so um so yeah didn't it tipped over on the platform didn't quite hit the target perfectly they they they're saying it's two months until the next attempt so we have another about eight weeks or so until they try it again I like that they're not stopping they're not going to be like that you know third time's forget it we yeah i mean--is guess it just can't be done they're determined well I hope they don't give up like hey I'd love to yeah I'd love for this thing to work out for them I mean there's some more of this stuff like the morph I just get this the internet and that sort of mentalities way of like every time it fails are like sheets not gonna work instead of realizing that science takes multiple tries to like get stuff right someone failure is just part of science I mean that's and life and life in general I mean it's just that's nobody ever accomplished something without some kind of failure behind it so I like I think that they're very well aware of this and you know it could really revolutionize um not only commercial spaceflight in in the way that you know maybe we would be able to get things back and forth but it's just make space space like so much cheaper so or even just getting things to and from you know this International Space Station in general just make it so much yeah so cut him a break cross your fingers ah give him some encouragement ear space God's radius is sorry whatever whatever it is that you do do those things and yeah so maybe fourth time will be a charm it wasn't the third time I was hoping it wasn't they were so close and I got so excited when I was watching it and I was just like come on come on come on it's they're gonna do it there are you calling on your screen and then it just tipped over and I was like oh no and then it exploded and I was like oh my gosh is the most depressing like as terrible but you know the price is right that but I know bro um yeah so that's that's what happened with SpaceX we just want to keep you posted because I know we follow this pretty closely like we're really excited to see what happens so we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back with a backorder haggett that I know you will be super interested in and and and I think you're gonna be excited and then we have your user feedback about Star Wars which is really good whoo and we have our phone target for the day so it all goes away it's tomorrow daily welcome back to the show it's Monday which means it's time to talk about a crowdfunding effort that we are maybe a little bit excited about or maybe not this is back of the Hackett all right this week we're talking about a virtual reality headset it's called where ality sky where Alan where reality where ality sky it's portable you can fold it up and put in your pocket that I like it's a headset right cool uses your smartphone five to six inch smartphone here it is um so you're going to see a little bit of this video of people using it and it is basically a VR optics headset with a 150 degree field of view which is impressive compared to other VR headsets they were they said on on their kick-started that most other headsets are between 90 and 100 degrees so it's quite a bit more the field of view is quite a bit bigger which is good they are using a very interesting piece of technology for the lens on this so what they're using is they're using what is called a double Fresnel lens and its technology that was developed by Lockheed Martin for defense and aerospace in issue ok so it's serious like this is really serious the lens is really thick and it looks like mr. Magoo glasses like they're really weird I think we have another video like showing the actual classes yes like Professor Barnes rather than via drama it's exactly like that so they're saying that the open design of these dislike heads is foldable headset and the expanded field of vision is going to eliminate a lot of the motion and simulation sickness that people report when they use things like the oculus rift dk2 yeah um and they also are saying that it will because of the field of vision they will also eliminate a lot of eye strain so there's a lot of eye strain involved in VR that might not be there ok with this particular type of headset there's also removable blinders on the side so if you want to like close off the world around you you can like put the blinders on it's kind of weird so okay so they have this video it shows you like ok here's all the different degrees of field of vision so here's tablets 25 degrees you got a laptop also 45 degrees fill the vision and then oh here's their flat screen TV 60 degrees so you're thinking like how many degrees wide you can see so flat screen TV 60 degrees movie theater 75 degrees which is pretty good 75 degrees with theatre and then 110 degrees field of vision I max screen and then there it's you know their headsets 150 so they're saying it's a pretty big field of vision it's almost entirely like from one side to the other which is kind of crazy so yeah 150 degrees we're all in esky um hopefully they have an actual image of like there it is so there's the device um the lenses you can see look how thick they are like they're shaped like actual glasses they're really they're super thick okay so it's it's a Kickstarter so how much are they trying to raise and how much does it cost okay so they want uh well let me tell you how much it costs first you die okay to back it it's gonna cost you $69 not bad and you get and you get a pair hmm ok sorry $69 is a pre-order yeah and um let me see actually Logan can we get this shot really quick i just want to show everybody so that's the that's the image right there that's what it looks like it's like a really weird like head headset kind of thing that's like so see that yeah kind of us are sixty nine bucks pretty good don't not counting the cost of your phone good they want a hundred thousand dollars um which isn't a huge goal no it's not and they have about half that and they've got 15 days left so they're about halfway there yeah maybe they'll make it maybe they want and it flattens down it goes in your pocket moldable puts you could put it right in your pocket what do you think yep back in you in yeah because Google cardboard I've always said is amazing and incredible X and this is just taking it from the non crappy version of that for a little bit more and you know that sort of VR experience I i was telling I think producer Logan that you your camera has that ability where you can take a picture and do like that thing where you you look around and you get here you get a 360-degree look at where you are well you just pop that in one of these and you can show somebody look I went to Disney World look at this 360 or we could show you this studio with a very true 56 degrees so I mean we're moving towards that sort of photo experience oh yeah definitely what is it 60 bucks yeah yeah once you try out google cardboard you'll get exactly why this sort of like portable super fund is super cool so yeah 669 bucks to bakit ships in October this year so it's this year pretty good um I guess that's the targeted ship date we always we never know about delays guys we take no responsibility for delays but yeah that's sort of somewhere where ality sky is the name of it so um I like it I'll back it too I say I'm in under 100 bucks ok very cool ankle all right guys it's time to talk about what you think of the show and we're pretty excited cuz it's all about Star Wars so here's your user feedback you realize I'm never gonna have a good segue for that it's just like oh hey guys it's time to talk about what you think so you guys are you guys exist let's see what you guys have to say hey wait a minute there's people watching um ok so Frank wrote in to us as TD Star Wars is the hashtag we're said what are you excited about who you excited about seeing who your favorite character from the new trailer could be an old character it's all good uh and Frank said I'm excited to see the new villain or villains new droids New Jedi solo chewy yeah sours I love that I love how they can just show us one nuke like cuz there's gonna be more trailers they like this next one we're gonna show laughs well this next one we're gonna show I know and they could just stretch it out but I stretch it out on and Han and Chewie a good start I was a good moment i'll get the moment uh oddest wrote in and said i'ma kill anonymous on this one I want to see the villain and what he's capable yeah August he's scary he was scary for the five seconds he was in the trailers like yeah it was like oh you win okay alright I give up a bro Daniel wrote in and said I grew thatch Leah bout having the trilogy be from my generation I just want to see the older characters be part of the movie totally agree I think they're an integral part you have to have him as part of you just say it did I do that too is like yeah yeah he said he's right he said that yeah we both work way he's got the generation thank you my this feels like it's gonna be my generation star see it that theater in one yeah yeah and it's not gonna be made for kids like I felt like the prequels were made for kids and I was already an adult by then I feel like I missed out i feel like this is the trilogy it's gonna be made for me um and then lastly I go too deep we got an email from Jim eh and he says I was 11 when I saw Star Wars in the theater my dad took me and I loved it so when I saw the latest trailer I got so choked up no other Star Wars got me so emotional I was thinking to myself yes they did it the whole feeling I had nearly 40 years ago came back I'm so happy at what they did they captured all the elements of the original series I always wanted to see the later films made not the prequels for me that newest trailer is perfect I'm so happy to get to experience a film that needed to be made um I feel we needed another series of films to close the Star Wars saga then he says I like Boba Fett I think he's a great character I don't know much about the Expanded Universe but from the movie he is a complex character and hope will hopefully play a big role in the new movies I asked like Jango Fett and the prequels so a lot of history to be played out that's our gym eh said it depends on whether or not JJ Abrams believes that both that's dead or not I know it's gonna that's gonna wreck on all those books so then such a big they may be dead oh man actually we want to be dead he just be digesting the second JJ like if JJ puts Boba Fett in there people once you really great like that's the one that's the one he's gonna get super smug about when people like you're like oh my god both thud smack you be like yep yeah you love me yeah I say I pulled him out I'll be the biggest hero of all time if he brings back both that JJ Abrams Moby will be though construct monuments to him he's being digested by Sarlacc currently so I can find a way to get him out of there I will be more rare few human beings that couldn't give a crap about Bubba Fett I don't know he's that guy are we good okay okay none what not positive or negative but I know that people will make mom people's is there to jab Rome's first yes jam drums uh so of course that was your Star Wars feedback and now it is time for a very special phone tog refer the day so we have some folks who write into the show who are kind of like i would consider them super fans like they're right in every day they're always part of user feedback they love the show i'm one of those people is Gayle and Gayle rights in today or last week and he says any chance this would be a phone time for choice my wife and I are expecting our first oh my god taken with a Lumia 520 that is your wife is you and your wife congratulations are you a congratulations gales whoa what a squirrel I don't know it looks may it could be a baby is this a shot from space stop from space oh yeah that was taken from the ISS oh this is this is amazing yes news ever congratulations Gail and Neil gil by he's got like a whole thing on Twitter it's like a long name so what camera did he is a Lumia 520 to take that picture that they have that app where you can see pregnancy oh yeah tell you just hold the phone nobody knows that windows easy great super cool thank you for sharing them yeah congrats awesome Mazel Tov whatever other congratulate Tory phrases we can throw out confetti all that stuff gangis is really excited for you very cool can register so yeah that was I thought that was a really good phone terrible yeah if you guys want to 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